Let's talk about the Wacom Cintiq 16 in 2023
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 24 มิ.ย. 2024
- Are you searching for a drawing tablet? It's easy to come across the Wacom Cintiq 16 series, but hold your horses. Let's talk about the Cintiq 16 in 2023. Why I like it, and why you may need to do more searching (or not, check out the video below).
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A friend of mine just gave me a Wacom Cintiq 16. He didn't use it anymore. It's a win for me!
That's a win!
luckyyyyy. is it worth the price?
what price ? he got it for free@@noone-gf5op
If only more reviews were like this one. +1
Thank you! What about it should I continue in future videos?
@@XPISigmaArt I'm not sure as I'm not in the market for anything right now. I just like your honest reviewing style.
@@XPISigmaArt You absolutely should!
I bought a second-hand Cintiq 16 for $280. Even if other competitors have cheaper initial prices, I believe there's no better deal than this.
That's quite a deal!
just got mine for 240$, I just love it!
That's an even crazier deal!
What website did you buy it from?
Very thoughtful review, thank you! I have a bit of a different perspective, though, due to my nearly 2 decades of work flow using a Wacom tablet (not a display tablet).
Last year I finally upgraded from my ancient Wacom Intuos 3 6x11 tablet to a Wacom One 13 display tablet. I use the word "upgraded" loosely, because it really felt like a downgrade, other than actually drawing on a live screen. There are two issues that I have with the Wacom One: I can't use my go-to pens, the Art Pen, which has barrel rotation in addition to tilt and pressure, or the Airbrush Pen with the paint flow valve wheel. I could only us the one-button pen that came with the tablet, or a 3rd party pen that really had no different capabilities. The other complaint is the restrictive size of the 13 inch drawing area.
I did some research, including your review, but also technical research on the capabilities of the Cintiq 16. I learned that it does work with previous generation pens! And, I found a gently used Cintiq 16 on Marketplace for less than half the new price. So now, I have the Cintiq 16 with a collection of 4 pens. The original Pro Pen 2 that came with it, a Pro Pen slim, an Art Pen, and an Airbrush Pen, and I'm loving the tablet.
I'm not sure if many Wacom users realize that one of the nice features of the Wacom software for Cintiqs or the pro-level tablets (not the Wacom One), if the tablet is used in an app like Corel Painter or Rebelle, is that each pen remembers it's last used brush. So when I touch my airbrush to the tablet, Painter will switch to an airbrush. My Pro Pen Slim is set to a #2 pencil; the Pro Pen 2 is set to a fat, round brush, and the Art Pen is set to a thick paint knife. No competitor tablet currently (and may not ever) has this capability, and this is a game changer for me, so I won't even consider a Huion or other Wacom knockoff tablet.
Compatibility for those special pens is pretty cool for sure! I can see the value of the 16 being a bit better if that's what you're looking for. Great input!
Thank you so much for the great advice! You're voice is really good for these review videos. Keep it up!
I was watching this because I own two XP pen tablets (the 13.3 pro and the Star 06 screen-less tablet). I've come to be sorta dissatisfied with my 13.3 pro that I've had for probably 4 years now, the reason I bought the Star06 in the first place was because I didn't like the color inaccuracy or how my screen started to look almost oily? idk how that happened.... So I thought "I'll treat myself to a Wacom...they have better quality right? who cares if they cost more" but in short after this very thorough review I think I'll just stick to XP Pen.... Thank you for saying actual useful information in this video rather then simple praise.
Crazy right? Yeah to get the better color screen you need to get the 16 Pro. That's 400 bucks more :(
Ha so you do recommend it at the beginning of the video but not at the end. This parallax thing is something that would bother me. Need to check tablets that have thinner screen layer I guess. Thank you for this review, very helpful!
Mhmm! It's good, but often pricey.
I was using a Wacom non-display tablet for years then decided recently to upgrade to a display tablet. Not wanting to spend a fortune, I tried the 22" XP Pen. Parallax was insane, I could not get it properly calibrated and the hotkeys would not program correctly. I set it back and ordered a Huion Pro 16. The PC would not recognize the unit as a display. All it would display was a black screen, and yes, it was plugged in correctly and every other monitor I have works fine plugged into the same HDMI port. I spent 2 days trying everything I found on TH-cam and google with no luck so it went back. In both cases (XP Pen and Huion) support is sketchy at best. Now looking at the Cintiq 16. More money than the XP Pen and Huion but it works and has support.
I recommend to check out my XP Pen Artist Pro 16 review vid, precision has really increased. Also parallax is non existent!
Came for the review stayed for the memes lol 😂 good review I’m trying to figure out what to get I’m thinking maybe a Wacom 22 but for same price I can get a huion pro 4K
Both are excellent! Can't go wrong if you have the budget.
Worst part is that its actually more expensive now-
I have a old Intuos pro s PTH-451, looking to upgrade since well my old grip pen stylus is holding together with tape and prayers the screw on part is so worn it just falls off and I'm looking for something a bit bigger and into screen tablets.
So I was looking into what's currently available and honestly the prices, I just want a decent mid range price option but no...
XP pen has a lot of larger tablets, definitely worth looking into!
There’s a Black Friday sale going on right now!
I would love to see a direct comparison between the XP-Pen Artist Pro 16 (Gen 2) and the Cintiq 16.
In terms of sensation when drawing, but mainly in terms of quality and durability. I know that the Cintiq 16 is inferior in terms of technical specifications, but I'm still considering buying it because I still don't know how long this XPPen will last, but I know that Wacom is reliable in this regard.
Cintiq 16 is indeed inferior. But the Cintiq 16 Pro is comparable to the Artist Pro 16 gen 2! Both have minimal parallax, great color accuracy and QHD resolution. But the gen2 has 16k pressure, while the Cintiq 16 Pro had touch. Also the Cintiq Pro is over 1000 usd :( I'd love to be able to test out the Gen 2 personally.
I do touch on this in my XP Pen 15.6 Pro video a bit, but yeah a direct comparison would be awesome.
@@XPISigmaArt
Yes, I am very impressed with the specifications of the Artist Pro 16 (Gen 2) for the price it is charged. Several artists are recommending it.
But as it is a new product I am worried about how long it will last. I would like a product that won't cause problems for at least 5 years. I see the Cintiq 16 as an option precisely because of the longevity of Wacom products, and touch for me is not that important.
The screen is better on the xp pen, the pen and tech is better on the cintiq. get the cintiq, trust me lol
I’m deciding between the Cintiq 16 and the XP pen artist pro 16 gen 2/ im really needing some advice here to which tablet to get, I want to draw digital comics/ create digital illustrations to post on social media and I use clip studio paint but don’t know which one to get, the only pro I see for XP is the 16K Pressure points compared to the 8k
I honestly have given all my opinions between both my Cintiq 16 video and the XP pen artist 15.6 video, which I talk about the Gen 2! It's definitely tough, I just hope sales are still going on for you.
just wanted to ask if you are using windows ink or Wintab with your 16? i am trying to find a quick key option other than the wacom one, but seems if using wintab can only use one set of device drivers at a time.
I disabled Windows Ink since that blue circle always messes with me. I honestly rarely use my Wacom quick keys, and opt-in instead for keyboard macros.
Please XP-Pen, send an Artist Pro 16 (Gen 2) for a review here 😁
Question!!
Do i have to have a PC, Monitor, keyboard, and mouse to use a drawing tablet??
I really really want to get into digital art and i was just wondering!
Yes! You need a PC, laptop, etc. If you don't currently have a computer, it may be best for you to find a used iPad and an apple pencil, or a Samsung tablet (that comes with an sPen). You have a lot of cool options to explore!
Sigma speaks? Holy moly!
Can you run wacom and xp pen drivers at the same time, currently using an intous pro, so wondering if xp pen will work with my intous 🤔
I have before, but usually gives artists trouble. I'd stick to one drawing surface at a time!
For the same price do you think I should go for something else from XP-Pen or Huion instead? People've been saying that they can't compare with Wacom in terms of durability, and I wouldn't want to buy a new tablet every 2 or 3 years.
Depends on the price for sure! The latest 16 inch tablets from XP Pen are awesome, Huion's latest are great too. There is also a slightly newer company called Xencelabs with very good stuff. You're buying in a very tough time, but honestly you can't go wrong with any of the latest generations from these companies.
I too love the wacom pro pen 2
But how are you going through so many nibs?!
Ive been using the same one for a year, only swapped it out yesterday.
I use a matte screen protector, gives me some nice texture while I sacrifice my nibs!
@@XPISigmaArt you probably are replacing them when you dont need to.
@@XPISigmaArt , lol more nibs for the blood god.
My nibs tend to get a very slanted edge after using for a while, I can't draw like that!
The deal breaker for me was the lack of a touch screen. For this price, I don’t care how “premium” the brand is, they had no excuse to exclude touch controls for canvas manipulation. The Wacom One 13 Touch has touch controls, as the name implies, but it is nearly the same price and considerably smaller and the pen is nowhere near as good.
Not me turning off any touch controls in any tablet I get that has them lol
If the palm rejection is good I'd love to be able to rotate the canvas with my fingers! But if not, yeah I'd shut that stuff off so fast.
i noticed that the cintiq pro also tends to to diffuse light also. is that how it is on your tablet ?
Yeah it has a matte screen. That's definitely my preference
I just bought a Wacom 16, 3 weeks ago. The pen will do commands and follow the cursor but the pen will not draw. I also use Corel Painter. Do you have any suggestions? I have reached out to Wacom and Corel with no help. I am about to throw the thing across the room. I am so frustrated. I am also signed up for classes nd I am 3 weeks behind. The unit is hooked up to a HP Stream laptop. I wish I had bought an Ipad!!! Suggestions for getting the Wacom pen to actually draw please!!!!
Did you install Wacom Center for the necessary drivers? Since it's a Stream, I know that runs Windows S mode, so you'll have to go into settings to disable S mode first before you can install it.
I appreciate your thoughts on the stand but I never even tried it when I saw that you bolt in the tablet, so it's not removable... So, when I have to carry the tablet around or put it away in some cupboard, since I don't have a desk that's 2 square meters - I have to unbolt the tablet to remove it? I'm sure there could be a better product design which would allow the tablet to be easily removed from the stand but ... not in this case I guess... Apart from that, I'm really happy with the tablet, I know they sacrificed screen quality to reduce the price but it's still decent if you're not using it 8h every day. If only I know there was no stock screen protection before I scratched it tho.. :x
It comes as just a slab, I just happen to use the stand I mentioned which needs to be bolted.
I want one but i'm waiting for a successor to this and i don't know how long it will take Wacom to release a new Cintiq 16.
I'd love for a successor as well! I think they may be waiting, as XP Pen is about to show off their latest 16 inch drawing tablet with 16k pressure levels any day now.
@@XPISigmaArt I've actually bought the Cintiq 16 used for 200 euros. Excellent condition and functionality. The 16 inch are awesome compared to my old 13HD. Also nice explanation of Parallax.
I have an issue with my wire, I have hardly any space for it so it’s always in my lap and the wire whenever I use it just bends and ending up breaking the wire a bit, no matter what way I see it, the wire will always bend and break still, and it’s gotten to the point if I move the wire a little out of place whilst using it on photoshop it ends up freezing photoshop entirely :/, only photoshop but still, any pointers or anything I’d be very thankful
if you're talking about the hdmi wire, they sell 90 degree adapters for that! but if it's the Wacom's end, no luck :(
@@XPISigmaArt thanks!!! But I found a work around anyhow thankfully but I’ll look into that thanks a bunch as the work around is just having the lead wrapped around my leg so that it isn’t bent lol
great video! should i buy it for less then 300£? or you still recommend something else?
thank a lot
That's an awesome price! But something from XP Pen will be about that price and be bigger. If 16 inches will work for ya, go for it.
Im between this cintiq 16 and xp pen pro 16 gen 2, can't decide which one choose, is parallax too visible on the cintiq? Id appreciate an answer please! D:
It's quite large. Screen on the Pro 16 Gen2 is much nicer. Check out my pro 16 comparison video, same can be said for the Gen 2!
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hey! I’ve had the Wacom critinq 16 for a year or 2 and I just got it out again. But no matter what I do, the pen won’t work. Could you (or anyone else) help?
Make sure the nib is all the way in! I'm also sure you already uninstalled your drivers/reinstalled. Best to contact Wacom directly
the cintiq pro 17 is quite looking good, the price tho is a bit high haha but that pro 17 looks sweet spot for me since i am using 18hd
17 looks great but that price is insane for sure
You don't have $2,500 to spend?!?! You bum...
Does it require that you connect it to your computer in order to work? Or can it work independently on its own like the iPad Pro?
You'll need a computer for this one!
Hi! İ want to buy a graphic tablet, but I don’t know what should I buy. I use apple to draw things. But now I want to buy new one- I'm looking for something between 700 and 800. I don't need anything very professional. Is there a model you can recommend me? Oh also, I want to use Clip Studio Paint as a drawing app. thanks!
Check out my two latest vids about the Cintiq 16 and xp pen 15.6! I cover a ton of options. Also keep in mind you'll need a pc for all these tablets!
If you're using an app like Photoshop, or indeed any drawing software, aren't the icons and tools really small on a screen this size? I'm looking to use Adobe Animate but on a screen this size I don't know if I'd be able to see all the tiny menus well enough.
I've never found it too small for Clip Studio, Sai, Mojo, or Adobe Animate. Plus, if something is too small you can always change Windows display scaling to be higher. But I always use it at 100% and it's fine for me.
@@XPISigmaArt Ah nice, thanks for the reply
So if I already have one already is it better to get the stand to make my experience better or just get a better tablet but I won’t be able to sell it for the same not even near the same price for it what should I do
A stand is fine!
Got it last year, would say there are regrets sure, the price to repair is like 50% of the unit. If I can pick again, will be either Huion or XP Pen for sure. Wacam just old school
I agree. I'm very much looking forward to whatever XP pen makes to retaliate against the 120hz wacom monster
I bought the latest Xp pen artist pro 16 and I can tell you coming from a Wacom background it was a pain, it’s buggy like hell not fun to use. Also I saw no one talking about, I’m a left handed and you can’t rotate the screen/ buttons to the other side.
@@Mr.right1821 The problem I am having with buying a new tablet is that it seems like both Huion and XP-Pen have massive driver issues that completely break some aspect of the device. I have a Huion kamvas 13 which had excellent reviews everywhere I looked for it and was reasonably inexpensive, so I bought it. It has since had numerous driver issues that caused the device to disconnect and reconnect constantly. I tried everything to fix it, contacted support multiple times, replaced the cable, tried the usb c connection over the weird dongle that it comes with, reinstalled the drivers, used different driver versions, nothing would work. All support told me to do is to reinstall the drivers and they refused to replace the device! All that said, I have a hard time trusting the competition against Wacom because I have no idea if the reviews of these tablets even mention the problems they tend to have with drivers and general malfunctioning. I have just as little trust for XP-Pen as I do Huion because my first tablet that wasn't a display tablet came from xp-pen and it had driver problems as well! (I went from two different computers as well to even eliminate the fact my device was the problem, it was not.)
xp pen Stylus are just..bad...if I can buy their screen only and use the wacom pro pen, I would
It looks like this model has a vesa mount, does it? If so why isn't it being used please or wacom selling an appropriate vesa mount and arm?
they have other Wacom mount accessories but I prefer the stand. Unsure of the sizing, definitely check out Wacom's page
What programs are the best to use on wacam
I personally love Paint Tool Sai 2! But Krita and Clip Studio Paint are both really popular options to try.
well, this made me more confused. I've been offered a huion kamvas pro 12 for £90 and a wacom cintiq 16 for £150 I was thinking go for the Wacom, even though the buttons and scroll thing are so useful for 3D modelling but your ending comments have stuffed me up the wazoo on my decision. What would you go for, I need to decide ASAP this deal aint sticking around. Also got a huion kamvas 16 inch on the table for £130 but i think the other two are well more appealing and have been the main struggle for me to choose. HELP!
The truth is all of those are a great purchase at those prices. I'd automatically say forget the 12 inch, you'll likely need more canvas space in the future. So let's decide between the Kamvas 16 and Cintiq 16. Kamvas 16 is sleeker, thinner. Better for travel if that matters. The Cintiq 16 is still a very good option at that price, but the Kamvas has a laminated screen AND better color accuracy. I feel like you're getting more bang for your buck with the Kamvas 16. But if you go Cintiq 16, you're getting a great price for something I'd only recommend at a huge discount.
Don't hesitate to choose Wacom because their products last at least a decade. It has much better build quality than huion and xp-pen.
The most noticeable thing is the pen, the wacom can still be used and the buttons are still clicky after a decade of daily use and dozens of drops.
Huion has the pen with the worst build quality, within a year I replaced the pen 2x. The button is broken because of the poor quality of the plastic, another problem is that the pen registers non-stop clicking before it finally dies. Their drivers also have problems, for example pressure suddenly doesn't work, random driver crashes, pen is not detected completely. I had to try many versions of drivers to find one that ran smoothly. Huion gave me nightmares and I will never use it again.
I've used several wacom types from the early 2000's and have never had driver issues once. The pen will break after a decade but the tablet still works fine.
@@leuncaso is the wacom 16 still relevant now? I am trying to decide which drawing tablet to buy and its so confusing
I dont understand why people say things like... buy another brand because wacom doesnt worth...but in the end still using this wacom product. This dont make sense..
Well I gave my reasons. I can't speak for the others though.
Tengo esta, lo único que no me gusta es que se raya con facilidad, aunque temgo la presión muy sensible :(
Get yourself a screen protector! Totally worth it!
yeah the colour matching is a big thing for me which i cant stand so i doubt i will get this now
For sure! If you don't have a primary monitor (that is also color accurate) and only use the drawing surface, the Cintiq is sup optimal for that. To be honest though, I never encountered big issues when moving my work over for final color edits, but it's still something I had to mention!
@@XPISigmaArt im glad you did
It has too many wires. I’ll likely return it because of that plus I didn’t know it was this old.
Yeah it totally is a remnant from an old age of tablets! It's so much nicer having a single cable. I don't blame ya.
My 3 in 1 charger doesn't work anymore, where can I get a new one?
Wacom should sell it. Google DTK-1660
@@XPISigmaArt Thank you!
I have an xp pen artist 15 and the materials are cheap not just the look of it but for example, the stylus buttons just stopped working (after 2-4 years), maybe because I use them to switch from brush to eraser, but that's no excuse I have had some tablets from Wacom and I've never seen a stylus die on me. The glue that the screen has in the back to hold the grip rubber started to melt since day one and I've started to see some problems with the cables, like the screen turns off suddenly and sometimes has some glitches. In a nutshell, I think xp pen has a good price, it works perfectly but it may have some longevity problems in comparison to Wacom. I totally understand the price is a problem, so if I can get a second-hand Centiq I would much prefer it because it will last me longer... This is the experience I've had so far... Let me know what you guys think.
Yeah the 15 series was definitely budgeting for a good reason. If you check out the inboxing for the pro 16 I have, I do mention how impressed I am with the feel of the device itself! Such a step up!
@XPISigmaArt yes it can be a problem of the series. Now that you mention it, my boyfriend has the xp pen artist 22, and it still works as it was 4 years ago. We bought them at the same time...
I haven't played with the 22 series but I have seen people use it for quite a while, so that's cool to hear!
But that's a story, for another, WHAT IF. Lol. Your voice matches this man's to the t..
My question will be. How durable is this tablet? How long is its lifespan? I have heard from other users about cintiq 13 pro which only lasted for 4 yrs before the screen shut off completely.
I bought a used Cintiq 16, and it's still holding up great. Mileage may vary on the owner I guess!
You know why from distance the line looks jagged?
Make sure to draw around 50 percent to 100 of your canvas. The further you are from the canvas, the less data the device can capture!
If you're talking about resolution, make sure you set the correct resolution in your Windows settings!
Nice video, but a small constructive criticism if I may: the pauses you make when talking were sort of stressing me out. The script was very nice (though maybe you could've explained what is parallax first before saying your thoughts on different tablet's parallax but that's about it) and insightful, but please be more fluid!
Anyways thank you for the video I will certainly keep it in mind now as I've been set on getting a tablet with screen after like 5 years with my ol' trusty Intuos
Noted!
Its weird that now its 899
I'm still seeing 599 across multiple stores.
@@XPISigmaArt US? Ive watched official europe shop and its 899€
@@cddvdblurayful Oh yeah, Europe has some crazy prices!
6:07 lol.....lazy artist here too
This tablet skyrocketed the price now. But no new features. 650-1200 same old tablet.
It really is a shame. Wacom recently put out a lot of budget options, and a very much not so budget option. I wonder if they are going to update their mid-range finally.
Bro i purchased a larger cintiq and then i went back to cintiq 16
tried almost every other screen tablet from xp pen and huion they all TRASH.
I do really want to try out a larger tablet, but if it's like 20in it better be QHD! Sometimes I find My screen not large enough when making strokes for lineart and such.
Could do without the music trying to listen and the music's very annoying
I hear ya. Since that video the music is much much lower, feedback has been applied!
distracting music, especially when I have to increase the playback speed due to slow talking
*I can't watch these videos WITH CONSTANT GODDAMN MUSIC IN THEM. What is the matter with all you "content creators" that you HAVE to fill everything with noise?*
How dare we enjoy music! The nerve!
@@XPISigmaArt this is not a MUSIC video
I agree with you that the music overwhelms the ears when trying to learn things, but you should consider trying to give polite constructive feedback to people who are creating helpful content on their own time for people like us.
Thanks for that! My latest vid (xp pen 15.6) had the music much lower, and not as prominent throughout. I think I'll find that perfect balance eventually :)