The First one H.G. Tattvavit Prabhu is FROM I.S.K.M. not related to ISKCON, ISKCON Declared it long back & String Vinodh Anna Also Crosschecked & Confessed it Long back, That ISKCON is good & Few of then are spoiling its name.
Both of them are equally confused about Sanatan...No difference...I have completely studied ISKCON philosophies from their books...And it's only propaganda, Hatred against mayavaad and nothing else, It's a deep Quicksand
Amogh Lila Prabhu ji Was in R.S.S (Rastriya Swayam Sevak) for more than 2 Decades & then Entered ISKCON. Has Good Skills. He Praises Sadhguru on many aspects & Politely Diasgres with some Core Concepts of ISKCON.
Hare Krishna. I a follower of ISKCON since childhood and have had numerous positive and uplifting experiences withing the society. Firstly, the prabhuji shown in the beginning of the video is NOT from ISKCON. Secondly, it would have been highly appreciated if you considered the entire scenario and context of the lectures before just picking out a certain line. Criticizing the concerned prabhujis just by taking out one line isn't appropriate. Moreover, H.G. Amogh Lila Pr has clearly mentioned couple of times about the respect ISKCON has for Isha foundation and Sadhguru. Also not to mention the criticism ISKCON itself faces despite numerous efforts to spread Sanatana Dharma all over the world and help society at large. Ask any bona fide devotee from ISKCON and they will give you a wholistic and balanced answer according to Gaudiya philosophy but not by demeaning other perspectives...extremely saddened to see such type of videos which are made without proper information and research....Hare Krishna!! Also the video says "part 1"..please think twice before making any other parts and save your time and energy.
He is nor Iskcon devotee they have their owm separate organisation called ISKM..but How he spoke is not the way Iskcon preaches but what he spoke does make sense if you dont know Bhagavad-Gita hiw can you talk about its Philosophy??
How come the truth be realized only if it is written in a book? A real Philosophy would be applicable everywhere, whether written or unwritten. Don't think everyone is limited by reading to understand the song of lord (The Bhagwad Geeta). Those who have ears they can listen to it, no need of books then. Your blindness has become your ego.
Some good books are Gita Press Gorakhpur Gita, Chinmaya Holy Gita, Gita by Swamy Adgadanand, Ashtavakra Gita, Gita by Paramhansa Yogananda YSS, Gita Makarand, BhagavadGita As it is, etc as Many as 800+ Versions of Gita are available in Market & Some Manipulative Gita's like Kabir Gita, etc etc are available.
Hare Krishna prabhuji!! Dandvat pranam!!! In the first video, the person telling about Sadguru is not from ISKCON but another organization, ISKM and krishna has its spiritual from and when we are in deep materialism we think krishna as "PLAYBOY" IT'S AN OFFENSE!!!! iF U WANT TO KNOW ABOUT KRISHNA PLEASE DON'T READ BUT SCRUTINIZINGLY STUDY BHAGAWAD GITA, SRIMAD BHAGAWATAM AND OTHER SCRIPTURES DESCRIBING KRISHNA!!!!! We are just the soul and Krishna is Supersoul!!!! Iskcon is an organization that shapes ones perception about Giridhari!!!!!!! When we think about the god's form, Krishna has stated in the 12th chapter in Bhagawad Gita..... So please dear prabhuji, please do scrutinizngly study the Scriptures mentioned!!!! Iskcon is just Srila Prabhupada!!!!! The basis of all spiritual knowledge is our Vedas and sastras!!!!! If we dont study them and give our own perception its not correct right!!!! Krishna just wants our love and one wud love god when he or she knows about it's form!!!! Without the form how can e know krishna !!!! Please remember our krishna is always with his devotees!!!! Iskcon spreads Krishna prema !!!! How can You entertain people by imposing allegations on others!!!! Please do answer!!! Eagerly waiting for your response prabhuji!!! It wud be really great if u wud read the scriptures once and come back to the videos!!!!
U r jealous coz u don't have fame. ISKCON is the best place u can ever visit in ur life stop spreading hatred about ISKCON. No one will believe in u. Hare Krishna❤
I disagree...I have read Srimad Bhagavatam 3 skandhas, Bhagavat Gita, Teachings of Lord chaitanya and many more ISKCON books You can find only hatred their against other philosophies...Things like mayavaad etc are repeated more than actual spiritual philosophies...It gives a vibe of religious political propaganda
We don't need to believe this Yogi but we know that Sadhguru's clear wisdom has dismantled Iskcons fanciful belief and you people can only scold him nothing else. Hare Krishna😃🙏
and no one will say words like rascal in ISKCON specifically , and the Prabhuji in the first part is not from ISKCON if I am right first experience by visiting the temples and then you are free to analyze by asking the devotees your questions they are kind to give you time and answer your questions
true.. some thinks god is shapeless , formless, other things he is in the idols, having shape , structure... i never knew these iscon people r so rude thanks for coming up with a video like this exposing them... the mains thing of yogis should be kindness, empathy and they specially avoid any form of non veg for the same purpos.....but,. if gurujis like them behave in such a manner ... i donno what what impact they r spreading all over the world...
@@madhavdas-nr7ox its not about kindness i personally visit isckon temples i am not doubting on their devotion but the problem is they make mock other hindu gods they think they are only superior a true sanyasi never disrespect other gods
Sadguru has nothing to do with our scriptures. He's very cunning with his words and completely fools the listeners(only during spiritual discussion, he has own philosophical understanding and I respect that). He is mastermind, one who listens to him, will find very difficult to question and think correctly/scripturally. I can understand this person, he is pissed off, anyone will be because majority of his believes are shaped by Sadguru and not by reading/practice any of 8 yogic process(like cyan yoga, Prem yoga, Bhakti yoga....each of these are library on itself), that anyone who challenges his taught process challenges a whole series of believe system which people have accepted. This Bengali Yogi guy has very fragmented one-liner, cherry picking 5 verses from a pool of lakhs without proper context/comprehension is calling for problem which is exactly the problem with follower of Sadguru. NO basic understanding. There is only one way to find which philosophy make more sense and that is when one read/practice both the Philosophy. I have read some of the philosophy and watched many videos on varied topic from Sadguru and from Iskcon. I find the philosophy of Bhakti yoga to be very well fragmented, explained and it feels like one is climbing up a staircase with every chapter. whereas no basic clarity and no complete picture on the end of Sadguru's philosophy even are a lot of reading, just fragmented stuff and no linkage between concepts.
Don't misuse the photo of Gour gopal das, for tha I'm disliking your video. In order to achieve popularity or get views, you used the picture of Gour gopal das in a wrong way.
bhai pehle apna information thik kar yeh guru ISKCON ka nhi hai yeh ISKM ka hai toh pehle kisi chij ko jaano phir kuch bolo,ISKCON and ISKM dono different organisation hai dono ka soch alag alag hai so please sabko ISKCON mein mat jodo, aur baat rha Amogh lila prabhu ka toh unhone bhi sadhguru ke upar video banaya hai 'my ashraya' you tube channel pe available hai , lekin kahi dikha do ki unhone sadhguru ka disrespect kiya ho, now change your you tube title of this video
Brother one suggestion don't read the iskcon version of Geeta it's misinterpreted in so many ways and try to seems krisha is a supreme being if you wish to read authentic Geeta you can read it from ramkrishna mision or other organisations which are not sectarian
@@thebangaliyogi yes Anna ramkrishna mision,gorakhpur press, Chinmay mision will be good in iskcon version they added their Vaishnav sectarian in many ways if you read other versions you can clearly distinguish between them 🙏🙏
first read Bhagvat Geeta from anywhere you will know why ISKCON worship Shri Krishna as Bhagawan in Bhagvat Geeta whenever a shlok starts it starts with "Shri Bhagavan Uvacha " clearly stating he is Bhagavan in many verses Krishna has mentioned his position , example "aham bija prajapita" - I am the seed giving father "maiya adhyakshena prakritihi" - the nature works under my supervision please read it with interest, Bhagvat Geeta as it is , is translated with Blood and Sweat with sincerity of the Acharya Shrila Prabhupad ❤
@@khushibhadauria5276 yes it's true I don't listen full lecture i listen from it shorts I respect prabhupada I have photo of him at my home but this words made me judge to him
@@jeeasparintrajib Actually earlier I used to watch small clips of srila prabhupada and they are controversial but now I watch his full lecture and understand what he was trying to say. he never disrespect adi shankrachya although his philosophy of worshipping krshn is different but prabhupada never disrespect anyone hareKṛṣṇa
Personal attacks are not the way one should debate... Debate should be based on Scriptures, logics, experiments... In any organisation, it may be ISHA or ISKCON there always will be such people who will be speaking like that... We should appreciate the better part and make video on that to strengthen our bonding... Yes there is philosophical difference... But atleast both somehow or other trying to spread Spirituality... Let's not make TH-cam videos to gain popularity by pinching each other... Make it for creating good vibes...create somuch videos to atleast honest to oneself and god!
My problem with iskcon is misquoting Krishna's words and calling it words of Krishna as it is 💀🙏 That's why I'm not able to trust them because their foundation is made on a lie (as it is)
If it was so cud u pls state a few verses where the meaning is misinterpreted and if it was like that being a single man army our spiritual master wudnt be able to construct 108 Krishna temples all over the world, devotees wudn't hav been come forward to preach in a coutry like China, Drug adddicts wud'nt hav become vaishnavas and lot more.....
@@adwaithsaikrishnapanda385 just search - "comparison isckon translation vs real translation balaji creation" Provided link many times but youtube removed it. And just because yoga is more famous in western world doesn't mean they are authentic. They are teaching just postures and calling it yoga. By the way this is your logic that famous means authentic
Hi Bangali Yogi... Please don't spread false information. And i want to you to make one more video... have you heard of IYF classes conducted in ISKCON temple? I wish you attend the IYF classes and present with one more video.
R a views k lia banata hon vdo.... Wo v free time main.... TH-cam is not my pation... And talk about other reasons.... Everyone will get trolled.... Just wait didi....
ek sadhguru ko 'rascal' bolne pe 5 min ka video?????? wow!! By the way, why you put the picture of Gaur Gopal Das in the thumbnail, when you never talk about him? click bait?
The first person is not from iskcon but from ISKM so please don't spread misinformation
The First one H.G. Tattvavit Prabhu is FROM I.S.K.M. not related to ISKCON, ISKCON Declared it long back & String Vinodh Anna Also Crosschecked & Confessed it Long back, That ISKCON is good & Few of then are spoiling its name.
Both of them are equally confused about Sanatan...No difference...I have completely studied ISKCON philosophies from their books...And it's only propaganda, Hatred against mayavaad and nothing else, It's a deep Quicksand
Nailed it Anna😂❤
Amogh Lila Prabhu ji Was in R.S.S (Rastriya Swayam Sevak) for more than 2 Decades & then Entered ISKCON. Has Good Skills.
He Praises Sadhguru on many aspects & Politely Diasgres with some Core Concepts of ISKCON.
Hare Krishna. I a follower of ISKCON since childhood and have had numerous positive and uplifting experiences withing the society. Firstly, the prabhuji shown in the beginning of the video is NOT from ISKCON. Secondly, it would have been highly appreciated if you considered the entire scenario and context of the lectures before just picking out a certain line. Criticizing the concerned prabhujis just by taking out one line isn't appropriate. Moreover, H.G. Amogh Lila Pr has clearly mentioned couple of times about the respect ISKCON has for Isha foundation and Sadhguru. Also not to mention the criticism ISKCON itself faces despite numerous efforts to spread Sanatana Dharma all over the world and help society at large. Ask any bona fide devotee from ISKCON and they will give you a wholistic and balanced answer according to Gaudiya philosophy but not by demeaning other perspectives...extremely saddened to see such type of videos which are made without proper information and research....Hare Krishna!! Also the video says "part 1"..please think twice before making any other parts and save your time and energy.
Thankyou For speaking on this.
He is nor Iskcon devotee they have their owm separate organisation called ISKM..but How he spoke is not the way Iskcon preaches but what he spoke does make sense if you dont know Bhagavad-Gita hiw can you talk about its Philosophy??
exactly!!!!!!!
How come the truth be realized only if it is written in a book? A real Philosophy would be applicable everywhere, whether written or unwritten. Don't think everyone is limited by reading to understand the song of lord (The Bhagwad Geeta). Those who have ears they can listen to it, no need of books then. Your blindness has become your ego.
Some good books are Gita Press Gorakhpur Gita, Chinmaya Holy Gita, Gita by Swamy Adgadanand, Ashtavakra Gita, Gita by Paramhansa Yogananda YSS, Gita Makarand, BhagavadGita As it is, etc
as Many as 800+ Versions of Gita are available in Market & Some Manipulative Gita's like Kabir Gita, etc etc are available.
Hare Krishna prabhuji!!
Dandvat pranam!!!
In the first video, the person telling about Sadguru is not from ISKCON but another organization, ISKM and krishna has its spiritual from and when we are in deep materialism we think krishna as "PLAYBOY" IT'S AN OFFENSE!!!!
iF U WANT TO KNOW ABOUT KRISHNA PLEASE DON'T READ BUT SCRUTINIZINGLY STUDY BHAGAWAD GITA, SRIMAD BHAGAWATAM AND OTHER SCRIPTURES DESCRIBING KRISHNA!!!!!
We are just the soul and Krishna is Supersoul!!!!
Iskcon is an organization that shapes ones perception about Giridhari!!!!!!!
When we think about the god's form, Krishna has stated in the 12th chapter in Bhagawad Gita.....
So please dear prabhuji, please do scrutinizngly study the Scriptures mentioned!!!!
Iskcon is just Srila Prabhupada!!!!!
The basis of all spiritual knowledge is our Vedas and sastras!!!!!
If we dont study them and give our own perception its not correct right!!!!
Krishna just wants our love and one wud love god when he or she knows about it's form!!!!
Without the form how can e know krishna !!!!
Please remember our krishna is always with his devotees!!!!
Iskcon spreads Krishna prema !!!!
How can You entertain people by imposing allegations on others!!!!
Please do answer!!!
Eagerly waiting for your response prabhuji!!!
It wud be really great if u wud read the scriptures once and come back to the videos!!!!
That 1st one is not from ISKCON only , maybe his way of saying is wrong but whatever he says is right
U r jealous coz u don't have fame.
ISKCON is the best place u can ever visit in ur life stop spreading hatred about ISKCON. No one will believe in u.
Hare Krishna❤
NAME THE PEOPLE WHO ARE WITH U AND NAME THE PEOPLE WHO ARE WITH ISCKON
I disagree...I have read Srimad Bhagavatam 3 skandhas, Bhagavat Gita, Teachings of Lord chaitanya and many more ISKCON books
You can find only hatred their against other philosophies...Things like mayavaad etc are repeated more than actual spiritual philosophies...It gives a vibe of religious political propaganda
We don't need to believe this Yogi but we know that Sadhguru's clear wisdom has dismantled Iskcons fanciful belief and you people can only scold him nothing else. Hare Krishna😃🙏
@@saswatmohanty8132 agreed i have also read srimad bhagavat gita from isckon
and no one will say words like rascal in ISKCON specifically , and the Prabhuji in the first part is not from ISKCON if I am right
first experience by visiting the temples and then you are free to analyze by asking the devotees your questions they are kind to give you time and answer your questions
@@OmkarHarade yes the first one is from iskm
@@OmkarHarade yes prabhuji.. you are absolutely correct these TH-camrs misrepresent their audince.
anna but 1st one is iskm not isckon
Ok anna... I didn't knew that.... 🙏
@@thebangaliyogi collected data must be checked and then converted to a video
❤आम् महाशक्ती लिंगभैरवी❤ शिव शंभो ❤
true.. some thinks god is shapeless , formless, other things he is in the idols, having shape , structure... i never knew these iscon people r so rude thanks for coming up with a video like this exposing them... the mains thing of yogis should be kindness, empathy and they specially avoid any form of non veg for the same purpos.....but,. if gurujis like them behave in such a manner ... i donno what what impact they r spreading all over the world...
have u ever meet and iskcon sanyasi or brahmchari in personal? lets say amogh leela prabhu have u met him? he is so kind ..
@@madhavdas-nr7ox its not about kindness i personally visit isckon temples i am not doubting on their devotion but the problem is they make mock other hindu gods they think they are only superior a true sanyasi never disrespect other gods
Sadguru has nothing to do with our scriptures. He's very cunning with his words and completely fools the listeners(only during spiritual discussion, he has own philosophical understanding and I respect that). He is mastermind, one who listens to him, will find very difficult to question and think correctly/scripturally. I can understand this person, he is pissed off, anyone will be because majority of his believes are shaped by Sadguru and not by reading/practice any of 8 yogic process(like cyan yoga, Prem yoga, Bhakti yoga....each of these are library on itself), that anyone who challenges his taught process challenges a whole series of believe system which people have accepted. This Bengali Yogi guy has very fragmented one-liner, cherry picking 5 verses from a pool of lakhs without proper context/comprehension is calling for problem which is exactly the problem with follower of Sadguru. NO basic understanding. There is only one way to find which philosophy make more sense and that is when one read/practice both the Philosophy. I have read some of the philosophy and watched many videos on varied topic from Sadguru and from Iskcon. I find the philosophy of Bhakti yoga to be very well fragmented, explained and it feels like one is climbing up a staircase with every chapter. whereas no basic clarity and no complete picture on the end of Sadguru's philosophy even are a lot of reading, just fragmented stuff and no linkage between concepts.
Don't misuse the photo of Gour gopal das, for tha I'm disliking your video. In order to achieve popularity or get views, you used the picture of Gour gopal das in a wrong way.
1st point..... That person's body name is sadguru and his soul is Satchidananda Krishna
He is abusing the body and not the soul
bhai pehle apna information thik kar yeh guru ISKCON ka nhi hai yeh ISKM ka hai toh pehle kisi chij ko jaano phir kuch bolo,ISKCON and ISKM dono different organisation hai dono ka soch alag alag hai so please sabko ISKCON mein mat jodo, aur baat rha Amogh lila prabhu ka toh unhone bhi sadhguru ke upar video banaya hai 'my ashraya' you tube channel pe available hai , lekin kahi dikha do ki unhone sadhguru ka disrespect kiya ho, now change your you tube title of this video
Brother one suggestion don't read the iskcon version of Geeta it's misinterpreted in so many ways and try to seems krisha is a supreme being if you wish to read authentic Geeta you can read it from ramkrishna mision or other organisations which are not sectarian
Okey
@@thebangaliyogi yes Anna ramkrishna mision,gorakhpur press, Chinmay mision will be good in iskcon version they added their Vaishnav sectarian in many ways if you read other versions you can clearly distinguish between them 🙏🙏
true i have isckon geeta i agreed
first read Bhagvat Geeta from anywhere you will know why ISKCON worship Shri Krishna as Bhagawan
in Bhagvat Geeta whenever a shlok starts it starts with "Shri Bhagavan Uvacha " clearly stating he is Bhagavan
in many verses Krishna has mentioned his position ,
example "aham bija prajapita" - I am the seed giving father
"maiya adhyakshena prakritihi" - the nature works under my supervision
please read it with interest, Bhagvat Geeta as it is , is translated with Blood and Sweat with sincerity of the Acharya Shrila Prabhupad
❤
but prabhu Kṛṣṇa is supreme and all demigods also agreed on that
even sri prabhu pada disrespect adi shankara charya and kali etc
😯
phele aap unka pura lecture suniye prabhuji.. then comment
@@khushibhadauria5276 yes it's true I don't listen full lecture i listen from it shorts
I respect prabhupada I have photo of him at my home but this words
made me judge to him
@@jeeasparintrajib
Actually earlier I used to watch small clips of srila prabhupada and they are controversial but now I watch his full lecture and understand what he was trying to say.
he never disrespect adi shankrachya although
his philosophy of worshipping krshn is different but prabhupada never disrespect anyone
hareKṛṣṇa
Ulta bolta he tu
Personal attacks are not the way one should debate... Debate should be based on Scriptures, logics, experiments... In any organisation, it may be ISHA or ISKCON there always will be such people who will be speaking like that... We should appreciate the better part and make video on that to strengthen our bonding... Yes there is philosophical difference... But atleast both somehow or other trying to spread Spirituality... Let's not make TH-cam videos to gain popularity by pinching each other... Make it for creating good vibes...create somuch videos to atleast honest to oneself and god!
Iskcon ke zariye ghatiya popularity paane ki koshish
Sahih pakde hay....
My problem with iskcon is misquoting Krishna's words and calling it words of Krishna as it is 💀🙏
That's why I'm not able to trust them because their foundation is made on a lie (as it is)
As it is.... 😋
If it was so cud u pls state a few verses where the meaning is misinterpreted and if it was like that being a single man army our spiritual master wudnt be able to construct 108 Krishna temples all over the world, devotees wudn't hav been come forward to preach in a coutry like China, Drug adddicts wud'nt hav become vaishnavas and lot more.....
@@adwaithsaikrishnapanda385 just search -
"comparison isckon translation vs real translation balaji creation"
Provided link many times but youtube removed it.
And just because yoga is more famous in western world doesn't mean they are authentic.
They are teaching just postures and calling it yoga.
By the way this is your logic that famous means authentic
Hi Bangali Yogi... Please don't spread false information.
And i want to you to make one more video... have you heard of IYF classes conducted in ISKCON temple? I wish you attend the IYF classes and present with one more video.
Study best Srimadbhagwat Gita of Gitapress by Swami Ramsukhdasji.. Not those distorted versions of Iskon
Bus ek bar kisi aur dharam pe aisa video bna do mai tumhe maan jau....
R a views k lia banata hon vdo.... Wo v free time main.... TH-cam is not my pation... And talk about other reasons.... Everyone will get trolled.... Just wait didi....
Dada koi pasand nahi hai toh ignore karo jaise hum sab karte hain .... par aise cholbe na..
Cholbe naaaaaaa 😂 1dom thik bolchen didi ...
iye to hingala language(hindi+bangla) ban gaya😂
@jeeasparintrajib 😂
Bn gya cool
😋
ek sadhguru ko 'rascal' bolne pe 5 min ka video?????? wow!! By the way, why you put the picture of Gaur Gopal Das in the thumbnail, when you never talk about him? click bait?
Yes.... I don't have any personal grudge against anyone.... It's just a youtube video, made to entertainment people, nothing else.
Why have you deleted my comment?
I don't delete anyone's comment.
Sadhguru apna funda mat chalata he