I've been asked for weeks why I haven't posted an updated video. Every video on my channel takes 2-3 weeks to make so please be patient! I've been working non-stop, analyzing every word of every legal document amidst the holidays and wild fires in southern California. I hope everyone is safe, take care of yourselves 💙 Edit: those of you riding for Justin need a reminder that he abandoned his "non-toxic male feminist" identity the minute he was accused of wrongdoing by a woman. He hired Bryan Freedman, a lawyer accused of *gang-raping a 17-year-old girl.* He denied Blake's harassment claims and attacked her despite having a TED TALK about the importance of validating a woman's claims. He hired Johnny Depp's attack dog PR expert. He blamed his bad behavior on being neurodivergent. The entire cast unfollowed him on social media. He admitted to saying things to his wife that were so mean he would get canceled for it. He admitted to getting so deep into the character of Ryle that he “took it too far.” Everyone keeps focusing on how Blake is a liar, but don't you see that Justin is too? His entire brand is being an ally to women!
Only 2-3 weeks? Thats amazing. PS: I started following you when you did beauty content. I like this sooo much better, but still always curious to know what you’re wearing for your beautiful looks. 😂
But that's the very thing they've exploited! Justin being a 'nice guy' an 'ally to women', a 'weak' feminist who'll just go along with whatever she wants (and he did for the longest time from what it sounds like) and who would not fight back. That's what Ryan mocks in Deadpool with the 'Nicepool' character, who then gets executedby (!) by Ladypool, the character previously portrayed by BL and she does the voiceover for it in the actual movie. There was a MAJOR imbalance of power here with BL holding all the cards. They wanted the rights to the sequal badly and expected Justin to bend over backwards and hand it over to them. Romour has it that there was a LOT of chemistry between them on set to begin with. While I don't think actual feelings were caught, something may have gone done and Blake's ego was hurt ('she got rejected by Justin', she 'expected him to fall for her and he didn't' - there are multiple theories out there). RR was not liking this, got jelous and went bullistis. He comes across very controlling. 'NO MORE' is the anti DV organisation Justin advocates and committed to donate 1% of the profit to. Blake's team used 'no more' in her claim as a 'smart' catchy reference , BL doesn't give a 'ratsarse' about DV or victims in general, and she hasn't even read the book that she's so passionate about getting the rights to... The timeline for her SH claim doesn't add up, please look into this. She also has falsely accused people in the past. Justin isn't perfect but he's a lot more honest, the things you bring up against him are things he shared himself. He didn't have to be this vulnerable. Blake and Ryan on the other hand are fake, desperately trying to portray 'perfection ' when they're far from it. They're very out of touch with people and reality, that's people's (or at least my) issue, not just the lies. Entitled and egoistic. As for the cast, they backed 'power and money' and their 'future job' as most likely was certain she'd get the right to the next film. She never in a million years expected to go down, because of who she thinks she is. Blake is a bully and comes with her 'dragons' - Ryan and Taylor
You’re focusing on the wrong things here. Blake clearly manipulated Justin throughout the film, she wanted her producer credit, she wanted to write and she wanted RR involved. Justin has proved this. He’s also proved that she never really intended to walk she just wanted it done her way. Justin has produced the emails and texts where he says; we don’t have a choice but to do it ‘98% her way’. They didn’t have the budget to start again with a new actress. Justin Baldoni does not have billions like Blake and Ryan. We’ve seen she lied about the intimacy coordinator by demanding one when she texts proved there was one there the whole time and whenever Justin said ‘I think you should meet her’ Blake turned it down ‘we don’t need one’ ‘we’ve got this’ etc. Blake has also claimed a multitude of things happened when no audio was recorded but Justin has the recordings, they haven’t been released but his legal team have it all and have confirmed it proves she’s lying and given very specific examples like him ‘hitting’ on her. He’s talking about her being hot i.e warm, she says he then said ‘I’m not attracted to you’ when in fact she goes on to suggest he gets a nose job. Whatever did or didn’t happen I find her part in this despicable, to have all that money and power and use it to manipulate a not so successful Hollywood star and destroy a film about DV, its not excusable. You don’t mention anything Blake and Ryan have done which is so manipulative, again on a film about DV, which centres on manipulation, there are no words for how sickening this is. The long texts she sent Justin about ‘[her] Dragons’ Ryan and Taylor which was just a very long winded threat. You are reading so much into what Justins “done” to Blake. At this point his wrong doings are all just speculation, there’s no proof of any of the claims against him whereas everything Blake has said he has proof that either shows his innocence or that the facts may have been misinterpreted to make him seem like the creep they are painting him out to be. Justin has also made everything public even if it makes him look bad. Imagine how it must feel for young actresses/extras/vulnerable women on film sets that really are being harassed by creeps to see Blake Lively, wife of Ryan Reynolds doing this kind of damage to women’s rights because Justin told her she ‘smelt good’ to reassure her after she said ‘sorry I smell bad its my spray tan’. Another flaw in all her reports is there’s many things that happened on days that she wasn’t even on set. His lawyers have proved she was in a different state when she claims he was in her trailer harassing her. I thank Ms Kjersti for showing us Blake is most certainly not a feminist, she is rude and cruel. We all know Blake never gets on with her co-stars and we always wanted to know why, Justin Baldoni is paying the price for us finding out that she is truly hideous. It’s not his fault she’s rude to journalists (and it seems any women that can’t enhance her career or public image), it’s not his fault her hair care range was shit and its definitely not his fault she named alcoholic beverages in honour of a DV film which essentially is why she’s suing him. This was supposed to get her back in women’s good books as well by claiming she’d been upset by a powerful man - delusional, she stood up for weinstein, she voiced how she felt about the ‘genius’ of Woody Allen and was very happy to be in films for him. She sucks
Hi, Kait. I am a SA survivor and I wanted to believe her...But, with all the evidences, past and present, I do not. And I think her and Amber Heard made it harder for the rest of us. To me - Blake is a power hungry, mean and selfish person who thinks she can always get her way. Do I think he is a perfect person? No...But I think she lied and is trying to redo her fallen reputation through him.
The Amber Heard comparison is way off. Because she actually experienced abuse by Depp and there was a lot of reactive abuse from her. Depp isn’t just a victim, he’s also a perpetrator which isn’t surprising since he had substance abuse issues.
31:25 you said there is zero evidence of Justin taking accountability but he did concede to everything Blake wanted and she even admits that much in her complaint. He went to that meeting and apparently signed a document. This is said by both of them. Also, Justin shows text messages where he said he'll continue to take the high road. How do you take the high road without conceding to the other party's demands which is a form of accountability. You said his reaction was to retaliate against her and try to destroy her career! What?! That to me says that you believe Blake's claims so why are you trying to act like you are on no one's side. I'm genuinely confused on what you think you did in this video 🤔
@gaila.9852 yeah, the 30 demands one she put in her lawsuit and complaint. She gave them one with 17 demands and said she won't continue filming until they signed which they did even though they didn't agree with some of them.
You have made a shocking amount of assumptions for someone claiming to be working on analysing evidence. You say as Blake’s contract on returning to filming shows the things she is asking not be done ‘must have happened’ or ‘they wouldn’t have signed it’ they would have objected to it. That is pure assumption and the assumption is wrong along with a lot of the other things you’ve claimed, if you’d have looked further into it you’d have known that they all agreed to sign because they found her so difficult and they couldn’t afford to hold up production any longer. Blake mentions the intimacy coordinator in this… it is well known there was an intimacy coordinator from the beginning that Justin always had on set even though Blake didn’t want her there! That is just one of Blake’s pr manipulation stunts and you believed it, as they intended you put 2 & 2 together and got 5. Ryan and Blake have the best and most powerful PR teams in the industry, if people fall for the most basic stunts like that what chance does the truth have
I kinda think Ryan knows a lot about the industry and wanted Blake to trigger the morality clause for the rights, never intending for this to go public. Baldoni seemed like an easy target because when you're a professed male feminist you'll agree to almost anything with a woman. He wanted women telling him about the female perspective for the movie, he mentioned specific jobs for the movie that he wanted women to control. He let Blake take over wardrobe, let her take over music, let her take over editing, gave her a producer credit, signed her papers about boundaries etc. I think Blake and Ryan absolutely did not expect him to fight back.
Oh wow, I suspected they wanted the rights to the sequel but this is the first time I’ve heard about a morality clause as a method to do so. I need to research…
Imagine going through such great lengths and attempting to be neutrally biased regarding both parties, only to have every argument you made for Blake be disproven as a lie in a $400 million dollar lawsuit. That’s a bad day.
More bad days ahead too, as BL's lies are exposed in court. For as nasty as she is with interviewers and co-stars, can anyone really imagine this self-described "bulldozer" cowering in the corner while this man harasses her? I'll believe in the Easter Bunny before I'll believe that.
@@StateofKaitso many people here have voiced proper criticism of the video. Why are you being so snarky and defensive? Why not be open to it and reflect if there’s truth to the criticism?
She thought she can do it like her husband did it with the Deadpool franchise. They bully their way into franchises without having to pay for the rights.
BL was in charge of the marketing. Sony did not tell her to make cameos of RR pretending to be a “jealous husband” on a movie about DV, they didn’t tell her to market her alcohol brand at the premieres and Sony commented in an article “It Ends With Us’: Sony Chief Praises Blake Lively for “Advancing the Conversation Around Domestic Violence”’. Doesn’t really sound like Sony strayed away from the topic, she herself avoided and deflected every time she was asked about DV.
I am sorry but I cannot watch your video until the end because you are projecting your own experience on this story. I don’t believe one second that BL has been SH, otherwise it would appear on her official lawsuit that she filed after the JB lawsuit against the NYTimes. And RR wouldn’t make jokes about it with Nicepool in his film. From the beginning they wanted to take over JB’s film, and if I had been him, I would have hired the PR team way sooner. Because I remember reading a lot of bad things about him before the film was released. On the other hand, regarding her, I only saw stupidity coming out of her mouth. She has always been problematic and her costars have always been silent about it because she’s powerful with RR on her side, but even before, nobody wanted to say a word against her but we could see that there was a problem. I, and it’s just my opinion, think that she tried something with him and he was not interested, which made her feel rejected and she decided to punish him. Probably the move was to take over the film by putting him in a difficult situation, but as he didn’t comply, she had to do it differently and she felt insulted. The sage thing, I don’t know if it’s true but it’s not illegal, it’s just a little funky. I have been SH in my life, and no way I would have insisted to lock down myself with the supposedly harasser to edit a video, and my husband wouldn’t have let me. I am more concerned about BL and RR methods to force people to do things that they don’t want to do, and the way they bully people, because that could actually be a crime. When you spent millions of dollars on a film and when you have the main actress threatening you to quit the film in the middle of it, or not to do the promotion, or what else, you do whatever it takes to please her. A narcissistic person can be very vindictive with no empathy at all. So maybe JB is a little eccentric and very peace and love but it doesn’t make him a harasser. On the other hand, BL and RR intentions were very clear from the beginning. After all, RR had some practice as he already stole another film from someone else. This is what happens when you become very rich, powerful, entitled, and you totally lost touch with reality. JB put all his soul in this film, he has never been accused of anything before, why would he be stupid enough to make uncomfortable someone more powerful than him? BL was forced on him by Sony, he should have listen to his gut and not go for it. Maybe he had no choice? I don’t know these people but I go with my gut, no SH here, probably no smear campaign against BL, it would have affected his film, the PR team were paid to protect him. And he was right to hire them, he should have done it sooner. So she supposedly has been harassed but she refuses to talk about DV? Does it make sense to you? And she waits for the film to be released, she tries with her husband to buy the rights of this film and as he refuses, only then, she decides to make her complaint because supposedly she has been harassed? Who is believing this story?
I agree as a survivor, i wouldnt want to continue working with the ab-ser, not one bit. She had SO MUCH POWER unlike most of us who didnt have any at workplace and she didnt do SHYT? The most i can believe is that JB is too emotional and almost seem like a creep. She couldve shut the production down, or asked for another actress to replace her. She can pay for any penalty anyway. If she didnt want the public to know, why didnt she fake it even on the premier? Everything from her and RR are BS
…You touched on every point here, good job 👍 I was also SH’d in Hollywood, but I was a powerless peon at the time who had just uprooted my life to move to California to be an assistant. I needed my job and stuck it out for two years and I was miserable. Btw I did tell my boss that his nephew harassed me and I was told to “toughen up.” SH is serious, and BL is one of the least serious people I’ve ever seen (seems RR is perfect for her). She also has a history of false allegations. There’s a lady named Jamie who’s been on TH-cam talking about how BL falsely accused her of “fangirling her” when she was a PA in one of her first projects and almost got her fired. I just see the power imbalance and the resulting takeover of JB’s film and I see a “strategy” not a real situation.
@ I agree with you, and yes, I saw that girl who was falsely accused by BL for no reason. I’m wondering why she does that? Is she completely insane? Regarding Baldoni it was obviously orchestrated and premeditated which definitely removes the insanity possibility.
@@YayaBolender …based on past experience, I think BL has a personality disorder, like Borderline Personality Disorder specifically. Here’s what it says about BPD online: “Borderline personality disorder (BPD) is a mental health condition that is "marked by an ongoing pattern of varying moods, self-image, and behavior," according to the National Institute of Mental Health (NIMH). A key characteristic of BPD-and a key diagnosing criteria for the disorder in The Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM-5)-is impulsivity, as well as issues with maintaining personal and professional relationships, says Mayra Mendez, Ph.D., a licensed psychotherapist and program coordinator for intellectual and developmental disabilities and mental health services at Providence Saint John's Child and Family Development Center. People with BPD will have trouble functioning as a result of their personality, and may often display unstable and unhealthy behaviors, says Mendez. Those unstable and unhealthy behaviors, in turn, affect all aspects of a person's life with BPD, says Mendez, as those with the disorder tend to struggle with self-image, and have a hard time defining their own sense of self. Their personal perceived inadequacies also spill over into their relationships: "If they can't live with themselves, then they can't live with others very well," says Mendez, Expect that a person with borderline personality disorder will have a point of view that involves extremes-often resulting in intense mood swings, Mendez says. "One day you are all good to them and the next day you're their worst enemy," she explains. "These are pervasive patterns, meaning they are always there. They don't play out better with one person more than another." It's also common for people with borderline personality disorder to frequently question how they see themselves, making them quick to change their interests and values, according to NIMH. Substance abuse and self-harming behavior are common, as is dissociation (the feeling of being cut off from yourself, or seeing yourself outside of your own body). People with BPD also frequently experience difficulty trusting others and inappropriate, intense bursts of anger. “Mendez says interactions within relationships are typically a tell-all for whether or not a person is dealing with BPD. "When they start to relate to someone, they either idealize them-they're over the top-or they destroy them because they no longer fit their idealistic perspective or perception," she says. Sound familiar?
@@PosaPunto Yes. This is why I'm befuddled by people who believe she felt victimized by anything he did or said. We've all seen her mouth running a hundred miles an hour in the press tour, spouting completely nonsensical things. Do we really think that she has such control of her thought process that she never crossed the line herself, never said something inappropriate when talking about s*x or telling a ribald story? Sheesh.
This didn’t feel at all like a ‘team no one’ piece. I believe that both things can be true: Justin acted inappropriately on set AND Blake saw it and weaponized it from the get, inflating the narrative to get control of the production and future productions. They both then engaged in smear campaigns, but Blake is actually incredibly unlikable in exchanges that had nothing to do with this movie, so that’s why we are here since she has significantly more power and resources than Justin does. Your attempt to appear objective while practically seething with an obvious position speaks to your own experience, not what’s happening here. I’m so sorry for your trauma, I too am a victim of sexual violence.
Very biased take…. Baldoni showed actual receipts to counter almost every single allegation BL made and before you’ll believe the person defending themselves by showing you actually proof defending himself that it’s not as the ny times tried to make it appear, no, you watered it down any way you could every time and not once did that with BL allegations, you’ll believe the person that’s just saying words😂 smh…as late as you are to this story and as much info his lawyer has spoke/shown on about those allegations & you didn’t mention a single thing cus it’s clear you just want to believe BL…you could have just kept this and I can’t wait til this is settled…hope you do a video admitting that you were wrong
Why do you sound like you think Blake is totally innocent and the guy is guilty, when there is literal proof of Blake using her "dragons" to literally threaten Baldoni? What kind of innocent person would ever brag about how she can basically squash him in Hollywood. Since Blake believes she wields all the power, why would she ever have put up with any scene where she feels uncomfortable? Baldoni was a relative no body and she claimed to be the lead character of Game of Thrones. WTF? Why was Taylor Swift at that meeting? That makes so little sense and Taylor admitted she was at that meeting? Who tries to show off their "influential" friends unless they are trying to convey a specific impression of how much they can bully a person. Also, just like with Meghan Markle, you only need to talk to people who have worked for her or with her to see what her real personality is like. She has trashed so many people over the years. It is one thing if two people in your whole life complain about you, but there has always been an actor or staff that was offended by her in every single interaction she has had. The reeks of "mean girl" as does Taylor Swift. Swift is so gross and pathetic singing about things that appeal to a 16 year old when she is a women in her 30s? Gross. Some of these Hollywood people are like cartoon characters not real humans.
Nothing has changed. It’s all PR and reputation management, they’re both out for blood and trying to damage each other, none of them are good people, and no one cares about survivors.
@@StateofKait I lot has changed. Did you see Justin’s lawsuit? .. pretty crazy. I do not feel like Blake will win this, she has already been caught lying. She needs to get out now. I respect your video, but there is something very underhanded going on
@ I saw his lawsuit and my mind has not changed. Unless I missed something, the worst thing Blake is accused of is being controlling and power-hungry, but the worst thing Justin is accused of is creating an unsafe work environment and harassing women.
@ but if Justin has the tapes and film footage, as stated in the lawsuit, disproving her claims. Video explicitly showing the counter of what she has accused him of. For example; footage of her wearing a body suit during the birthing scene. This disproves a lot of her sexual harassment claims. I don’t think his lawsuit would have made that statement if he wasn’t going to provide the footage.
@@Letstunein They've both made concrete statements claiming they have evidence, so we'll see in court. But here's a copy of my pinned comment, which sums up my feelings on Justin: He abandoned his "non-toxic male feminist" identity the minute he was accused of wrongdoing by a woman. He hired Bryan Freedman, a lawyer accused of gang-raping a 17-year old girl. He denied Blake's harassment claims and attacked her despite having a Ted Talk about the importance of validating a woman's claims. He hired Johnny Depp's attack dog PR expert. He blamed his bad behavior on being neurodivergent. The entire cast unfollowed him on social media. He admitted to saying things to his wife that were so mean he would get canceled for it. He admitted to getting so deep into the character of Ryle that he “took it too far.” That is not a person I would trust, regardless of who ends up being right or wrong here. Everyone keeps focusing on how Blake is a liar, but based on Justin's public persona, he is too.
You didn't touch on the blatant mocking of Baldoni in Reynold's Deadpool film. That's what really tipped my opinion in Baldoni's favor. For such a serious accusation, they don't seem to be treating it seriously. There are petty things included in Lively's lawsuit, like no giving hugs or saging, which for an artistic venture with a director known for his woowoo practices felt like perhaps the accusations had another agenda. She did take over the production by weaponizing these complaints to Sony. Baldoni also owns the rights to the sequel. What do you want to bet that the terms to drop her lawsuit against him is to transfer those rights to her?
Please address this bc it’s gross 🤢 also Ryan took over the Deadpool movie from the director much like Blake is trying with Justin ..: also Blake kills nice pool in the Deadpool movie it’s really awful. It changed my mind about everything …
There's not enough for me to verify both sides' claims in my mind, but Justin has produced more evidence and that makes me view him as the more credible person at the moment. That aside, Blake and Ryan just seem like massive bullies on a power trip based on their conduct. They are completely aware of their influence on the media and the public. Taking a blatant dig at a small time actor and director (of whose film you have inserted yourselves as producers in) in your own massive blockbuster (which was also co-opted) is pretty darn low. I'm glad to see people falling out of love with celebrities and that people are scrutinising them harshly because this isn't something you take likely or to use as an opportunity to benefit from.
Nicepool has scene where he says, "I'm saving my face to do a podcast about monetizing women's rights" - Justin Baldoni does a podcast about women and men's rights called "Man Enough?" . Is that a coincidence? I don't know I'm asking. 😮
There was a 17 point conditions to return to set document not a 30 point document. In her complaint she presented a 30 point safeguard that was not presented to the Wayfarer team before the complaint was filed which is clearly misleading and misinforming.
Obviously you are not "team no one". Your bias is also very obvious! I understand your pain and your bias, but please stay objective without colouring your comentary with your bias. Theyre both awful and let them fight it out.
Blake was taking over the whole movie. She wanted to be the producer , edit the movie, select wardrobe and use Ryan’s Deadpool crew instead of Baldonis . Essentially trying to take over all credits for the movie since it was so successful. Blake never even read the book!
This entire video is backfiring on you. You are welcome to express your opinions but you are skewed towards Blake your bias is obvious, almost like you have an ulterior motive. You use so many excuses for Blake and justifications. You don’t address the issue how she had the power to “banish him to the basement” and thew giddy fits over edits. Because she is the one who wielded all the power, no one believes that he dared to harass her. He was scared of her!
Nothing is backfiring, I knew 90% of the comments would be pro Justin. And none of you guys know what power Blake had, you were not on that set. The parasocial relationship here is shocking.
She gave a very nuanced analysis of the situation and very purposefully did not take a side, as you assume she did. Just because she did not discredit the likelihood that Justin Baldoni did something does not mean she absolved Blake Lively of any bullshit she's done. You're letting your own bias against Blake Lively blind YOU to the nuance of this situation lmao. The irony is irony-ing, babes. You're mad because Kait won't view the situation as black and white the way you want her to.
@@StateofKait We've all seen BL try to take down others - the videos are all out there now. She does it with aplomb and an obvious sense of enjoyment. There is a meanness and an obvious sense of power there that she knows she can wield. She has actually referred to herself as a "bulldozer" and she has orders of magnitude more power than Baldoni has in Hollywood. That's why there are so few here who buy her story of suffering as his SH victim. That is just nonsense.
Interesting takes here. It's interesting that only men can seem to have power and be bullies in the eyes of some. We will see how your takes hold up as more info comes out.
@71mjl just compare the lawsuits. He has prove, she fabricated proof and the majority are baseless claims. I also do legal work for a living and deciding if a person is telling a true story is what I'm trained for. And US courts are a joke btw, no truth comes out there🤣
So pretty much you are siding with BL because it is hard to believe a hegemonically-attractive guy has been outspoken about his support of positive masculinity and feminism for years (at least 10 publicly)? But it is hard to believe that a woman considered an A lister in Hollywood can be a bully?
Blake and Ryan are clearly quite manipulative, and worked hard to try to mitigate her disastrous interviews. In addition, there are tons of holes in Blake's stories/lawsuit. I think they are both bullies and now there true colors are here for everyone to see. RR and BL figured they are Hollywood elite, and everyone would bow to them and destroy Baldoni. I'm glad he fought back.
But arguably Blake has more power than Justin. Ordinarily, the director is that but not in this case. She had more power! If he was such a problem on set then she could have had had him dealt with then, for everyone’s safety not just hers!
Dear Kait… I found your review very biased. Probably because you haven’t been following these ppl long enough. Just one example: why would Justine sign that if they hadn’t taken place? Because, allegedly, she has threatened him several times that she wouldn’t continue if he doesn’t do what she asks for. And this aligns with what we already knew from Blake & her husband throughout their career. Asks yourself this question instead: how stupid & insane could Justine be to SA someone as powerful as Blake?! Justine has no power compared to this couple so he should have been out of his mind to SA her! But… all these could have happened we just don’t know. Pls be fair and do not defend any of them.
In the Philippines, there's this actress Andi Eigenmann who got pregnant and accused the father of the baby, Albie Casiño of not taking accountability and for "neglecting" her (Andi even rounded up her guy friends to assault Albie as revenge). The young and upcoming actor took all the heat, then all of his projects got cancelled and his roles were given to someone else. His whole career burned down to the ground. Turns out, Albie wasn't even the father. The real father is a guy called Jake Ejercito, from a powerful political family. The actress' career still strived, meanwhile Albie's career was ruined and was no longer given projects and opportunities. And people pretended that it didn't happen and Andi got away with her lies. Whenever I hear stories like this, it reminds me of what she did and how the whole industry treated Albie. #JusticeForAlbie ( Please discuss it on your channel 😔)
This is a PR war and a battle for control of the movie. The alleged SA is the sword and shield BL used to wrest control of the movie. Blake has never struck me as a particularly insightful or sensitive woman, nor particularly professional. I’m not buying all of what JB is saying but I am not believing BL very much at all. I expect the lawsuit was initiated to distract from her tone deaf media tour. The rest of it is justification for seizing creative control of the movie. If it goes to court, I’ll be surprised. This is a PR Battle Royale. The timing of the Times expose and the “research” period and publication date only days after the release of the complaint were terribly close. I think the cast had plenty of reasons to distance themselves from Justin. Blake and Ryan wield so much more power than Justin. Their careers are important to them. I think we won’t see a SA lawsuit. But that’s my opinion.
So, he would walk in on her when she was undressed. No locks on doors? Why , when RR berated him for fat shaming her, he didn't yell about walking in on her when naked? Give me a break she's such a liar.
We should be considering the fact that people do not like Blake Lively because of her actions, because of what she has done and said. You have zero evidence to support the narrative that Justin Baldoni is an assaulter. Except that he wore glasses to seem more competent? Should we just forget who has more power in this dynamic? The Hollywood sweethearts that have extensive connections or this practically no-name director that most of us found out existed from this discourse?
I find it curious that you defended the clips of Blake being a bully, but depicted the clip of Justin stating he's imperfect as a problem. The reason there is no evidence of him taking accountability for what he did is because he most likely didn't do anything. There is a power imbalance, Blake and Ryan are A-listers while he's a nobody, so even when they walked all over him the whole time of filming, he STILL didn't retaliate, so I'm not sure what you mean by that because if you were falsely accused of these allegations, would you not defend yourself? Also, her text evidence is obviously tampered with and spliced together, as well as taken out of context. Let's not forget the numerous stories of crew members who have worked with Blake (and Ryan) over the years, and they all have a negative experience. Meanwhile the members of Jane The Virgin and 5 feet apart have nothing but positive things to say. Just something to think about
I loved many of your previous videos, but I believe here your discussion is largely biassed. I am very sorry for your personal experiences, however, here there is a case of power imbalance that has nothing to do with gender. Blake is the one with way more influence than Justin, so if there were any cases of SH, she would have had enough influence (especially with her dragons, as she puts it herself) to shut down the whole filming process. And she waited for so long to come out not with an interview, personal statements, etc, but with a law suit? It's not looking good for her at all and jeopardises real cases of SH. I also think that she hopes that Justin will be confused with his character Ryle in the movie, so that it's easier to manioulate the audience, paint him as an abuser and get more people on her side. Of course, let's wait for the hearings, so that the whole truth comes out, just like it happened with Amber Heard case. Maybe an update video after Justin's lawsuit will be more objective. Thanks!
I've grown up in a home with DV from the age of 7 to 25 so I was a bit scared to even watch the movie but I did, honestly partly to support Justin. If the SH is truly what happened why the hell would they make a completely joke out of it in Deadpool; with nicepool as a way to make a complete joke out of Justin. If I, as someone's partner, would learn they experienced SH the last thing I would think about to make a joke out of all of it. I'm all about standing beside women as a part of womanhood but I can't get behind Blake. Justin never had any issues during his work, look at 'Jane the Virgin where his friendship with the female lead is still extremely strong. Blake however already had enough issues, poor choices and bad behavior. Like making fun of princess Kate. I don't say Justin is a saint but with this situation I do believe Blake and Ryan are actually the bullies in this situation. Justin wasn't even allowed to watch his movie during the premiere but instead was put inside a basement with his friends and family. And while the cast stands with Blake that might be because they side with the power couple to keep their options to new job opportunities open. Brandon Sklenar actually spoke positively about working with Justin but then suddenly changed his mind.
Honey She got rid of the intimacy coordinator, cause she caught feelings for him, just like shes done to many other coworkers. She caught feelings and it wasnt reciprocated and her inflated ego couldnt take it. She then went ballistic. What was she gonna do if he reciprocated? Dump Ryan?
Yeah welllll, My gut tells me it was a power play by Blake Lively. She wanted the film to be her film, direct herself, script changes etc. etc. She didn't get her way and she''s angry...but I could be way off, who knows. I read that Justin wanted to promote the film with the violence in mind, while Blake wanted to show it more lighthearted..
So sorry about what happened to you and all the victims. My heart goes to all of you. I understand why and from where your point of view comes from. It's important to me to support and validate women; specially when unfairness has happened to them. But unfortunately, it's not that blake is an unreliable witness... is that she has been consistently rude, that there has been a power unbalance and that literally, she took over someone else's movie and project. I understand why you believe her. But unfortunately, I don't. Not this time
The biggest difference between the edited vs the non-edited text messages isn't the emoji but after calling Justin the 'abuser' they say 'it isn't true' - while calling Blake a psychopath at the same time!
Kait, i had no idea about your previous history with DV (if it was mentioned in the previous video, I missed it) Thank you for being so honest and straightforward, and providing a nuanced take on a *wild* story! ❤
Well, Justin is now officially suing Ryan Reynolds & Black Lively for $400 million for extortion, defamation.... I didn't know who Justin was until all this. I tend to hyperfocus on certain things so I went down the Baldoni rabbit hole. I've seen several of his podcasts and listened to his book. IMO, I honestly think he's a pretty good dude. I used to like RR.... then I found out he pushed out Tim Miller after the first Deadpool movie and hijacked the franchise. Looks like Blake followed his blue prints on hijacking other's projects. I really do hope Justin's movie is released. Blake's version was pathetic. Tell me you didn't read the book without telling me 😂. Right now I'm thinking Ryan and Blake are entitled bullies who need to face repercussions of their disgusting actions.
Seriously BL doesn’t know how to lock a door …or make sure that one of her assistants isn’t on hand. I don’t understand why an actor of her standing wouldn’t have tasked her manager and agent to engage with Justin’s agent and manager…that’s their job!
I was thinking this. And that devastating breach of trust where you go to someone to basically learn how to handle yourself in these circumstances and that leads to it happening. I can't imagine 😞💔
Blake's ego got hurt here (beyond wanting the film rights), as it is all very personal. Maybe she caught feelings and they weren't reciprocated... and Ryan was jealous.
I see a pattern in that couple's behaviour RR strongarming the production company to get rid of Dir. Tim Miller and BL now in an attempt seems to be weaponizing feminism to get rid Justin Baldoni and get herself a sequel. Tim's career took a major hit now they want to fully destroy JB. Main contradiction is She said herself RR was there all the time. He was there and just let his postpartum wife get s.a. ? Makes zero sense. As for power imbalance Blake was paid 3 M for the role Justin 300k. Cards are not siding w Blake's honesty on this.
It’s so weird how BL can allegedly complain about many things and it’s okay but JB allegedly rebutted her claims, yet it’s not okay…it doesn’t matter who wins in court because both their reputations have been ruined with JB having a worst recovery process.
Blake said there was an intimacy coordinator on set in an interview. I say Justin’s version should be released. I’m a DV survivor and I don’t think the movie should have been “grab your girlfriend’s, wear your florals” type of hype. From what I’ve seen of her past interviews, etc she is a bully. She even partook in the bullying of Princess Catherine and was criticized by fans. That was about a year ago. #istandwithjustin
Exactly. There were messages released which showed he is trying to set an appointment with the coordinator and she says im good! WTF? And her husband making fun of a man who has SA ed his wife?!
th-cam.com/video/PIX7Clu_ZSU/w-d-xo.htmlsi=C9Srx17lPdtYv5CG This is the uncut footage of him being 'creepy', sniffing her. Spoiler : 'it smells good' is him complementing on her body makeup that she was conscious of...
Believe all women- except when they're a known bully fabricating a narrative in order to destroy a man's life and bankrupt him in court. Neither a fan of JB (have never heard of him before all of this) nor a hater of BL (it's everyone's right to be a mediocre actress) - his counter lawsuit challenges basically everything she says and dude's got receipts, as opposed to BL who among other things "forgot" to attach a document that would prove her point. And as a matter of fact, your point of view is very anti feminist in itself, because you assume JB as a man had all the power to harass poor helpless BL when it was so clearly the other way around. JB is a guy most people have never heard of while BL and her forever 14-year-old husband are two of the richest and most powerful people in Hollywood. I don't believe for a second they wouldn’t have able to fight him during filming over this.
The likelihood of BL being a poor helpless SH victim under the thumb of an unknown director is probably up there with the odds of her career surviving this fiasco. Feminism is about empowering women, not covering for a woman who is herself a bully.
Your bias is so obvious. Giving the woman the of the doubt, and yet not doing the same for the man. You say we need to be better about not being manipulated by the media, yet you are so manipulated yourself. I can’t.
What is rarely talked about in this whole thing is power dynamics. In harassment and abuse situations, we often think of man vs woman because we live in a patriarchal society where men hold more privilege and power than women. In this case, Ryan Reynolds holds the most power over everyone and he’s a billionaire, so he is unethical in his use of power as well. There is the case of the plantation wedding but Blake’s career choices have been highly questionable as well. Her antebellum clothing line, the interviews, naming an alcoholic drink after the abuser in the movie, being an adamant support of Woody Allen, etc. I think even just the sheer fact that she just agreed and followed Sony’s directive with no evidence of pushback furthers evidence that she is not a feminist nor does she care to stand up for what’s right ever. She has never apologized for things she has done, but her husband swoops in and throws money at it. This movie was supposed to restart her flatlined career but it didn’t. Her and Ryan are still very much on the power heavy end of things here so I just don’t think it is believable that just because the New York Times dropped the complaint before it was filed means anything at all to its validity. We see this move happen a lot in Hollywood. She likely won’t win in the court of public opinion but people will fall for Ryan every time so he’ll keep her afloat. As for Justin, he sounds like a creep and will likely lose in the court of public opinion because there just seems to be a whole lot of ick around him now. Could really care less for either of them, or Ryan. There are no heroes here. If people were being harassed or were unsafe or whatever, the filming could have ended, like people have said. I truly think this is a battle for clout and that’s it. DV survivors were shafted by the film and SA victims will be by this stupid game that both sides are playing. It’s ridiculous and I wish that everyday victims and survivors of any form of violence were benefiting from this stupid public fight.
My mom met her family and it was the perfect glimpse into her weird, trashy and completely disconnected from reality life and personality. The way they acted was perfectly in line with her absurd attitude and behavior. This stuff with Baldoni wasn’t a one of either so put that together with the laughable promotion from her about grabbing your friends, florals and have fun 🤷♂️ huh? It’s a serious movie about DV. Then you throw in her promoting her hair care line instead of supporting women who have faced DV throughout their life. The stuff with the fat shaming was all because Justin had a serious back injury and lifting her was a risk. I’ve also listened to a few of Baldoni’s podcast episodes and this behavior has never happened or ever seemed to come even close to what Blake is alleging. The other thing I think is Blake isn’t just a random new actress breaking in and in this dynamic she had all the power. Her and her husband are worth well over 1 billion dollars and if she wanted to get him fired it probably wouldn’t have been too hard considering Ryan’s relationships and power in the industry as well. Now is that to say something like this has never happened before with a supposed feminist advocate? No. But with everything said by Blake, the way she’s acted during filming, before/after and Justin’s own history it just doesn’t seem like Justin was the monster that Blake accused him of being.
30:07 My husband would also never speak to me in a way that would make people hate him. It's weird to me that there are people out there that think that's normal.
He was exaggerating! It was owed comedic humor to show that he isn’t perfect and he still makes mistakes nevertheless, he realizes that he is wrong and apologizes. Also, he didn’t mean being cancelled he meant in reference to his image that he wouldn’t appear as the feminist he is in contrast! You weren’t supposed to take it literally.
Kait, this was a super balanced take, and I really appreciate your sharing of your experience and your analysis. Your content continues to be so thorough and balanced and refreshing-even when it’s on heavy topics like this ❤
I find the whole thing very sad. As a victim myself, I wish the film (which I haven't seen) could have been a stepping stone to awareness or community. I wanted to believe Justin because I was aware of him before this and Blake's press tour comments were awful. I'm also team no one. So sad that people can't just respect each other.
I initially believed Blake then Justin brought receipts. Why does an innocent person need to edit and change around or take out parts of text messages ? And you are very bias, so bias youre filling in the gaps. We must remain objective. For now we will just have to see what the evidence shows and NOT jump to conclusions as you have full decided BL is the entire or main victim here and JB is bad. And I think you will believe that no matter the ‘evidence’ shows.
See, none of this shit from Justin is actually surprising to me. I'm a Gen X'er and back in the day we used to have what my friends and I would call "SNAGs," which is short for Sensitive New Age Guys. SNAGs would pull their acts all the time to either get in our pants or play the good guys to cover for for being bad guys. He's just a SNAG. Yuck. I wish I could say I have seen more change for the better in my 50-odd years. I've been trying to help. Thanks for all you do. I don't like Blake, but you bring up some really good points about victims needing to be perfect or likeable to be believed.
If they could strong-arm Sony to take over the film then why couldn’t they strong-arm Sony about promoting the movie with florals, too, so she could showcase what she wanted?
It’s hard for me to take her word at face value knowing that she accuses Makeup Artists of SH for applying her make up with their hands. You’re right there is no such thing as a “Perfect Victim” however, most victims don’t use methods of extortion and coercion to get their way with their abusers. During the JD vs AH case I was livid when his past gfs, friends and family were saying how great he was and I have loved JD since I was a child. Through my own experiences abusers are like night and day when they’re around people that they don’t want to know that they’re shit human beings so, that in itself was extremely triggering for me. After listening to that trial and reviewing the evidence I felt like an asshole because AH in those recordings reminded me of the gaslighting, abusive and narcissistic behaviors I dealt with. It just doesn’t sit right with me that these allegations were held over their head whether they’re fact or fiction both are wrong.
Blake said in an interview that there was an intimacy coordinator when someone said she was one she said no that’s actually not allowed and said coordinator was on set
In that interview she was called out on showing JB how to grab her during an intimate scene, denied it and was called out by CH that she also seen the video then started deflecting and shifted the topic.
Kait, I am so very sorry that you were attacked by your self defense trainer. Nobody ever deserves that. I hope you have found peace and healing and that you feel safe now. :/ With all the info I've seen I'm leaning more towards JB being the honest one but we'll see. I wouldn't recommend using anything in relation to Amber Heard to help legitimize Blake's allegations though. The filmed Johnny Depp V Amber Heard trial is available on YT for free. I would recommend listening to all of the recordings at the very least. Unfortunately, there's a lot of content that tries to muddy the waters for that case but I started following the case before the UK trial happened.
What a biased joke, rife with omissions of Baldoni's facts. The banner full of all those fluffy "Blake" flowers is beyond telling. You apply faulty logic in all your weak arguments. Just because a journalist won an award or reported negatively on a harasser, does NOT mean they are incapable of journalistic impropriety, etc. Get a real job.The world does not need anymore dumb "influencers" trying to capitalize on celebrity gossip.
I am so disheartened to see the comment section, it is very much reminiscent of the online narratives around Amber Heard and Johnny Depp, and it terrible to see us falling for the exact same PR strategy again. I just want to say this: the accuser focuses on the abuse, the abuser focuses on the accuser.
Anyone can see how downright crazy BL’s behavior is if you’ve watched her press tours. Always mocking the topic DV, disrespecting interviewers like they’re beneath her, and constantly trying to push her haircare or alcohol brand, or trying to talk about her husband instead of the actual topic. Does someone who claims to have been a victim of SH act like the whole situation is a joke? 🙄 Meanwhile, Justin remained respectful, kind and composed throughout, just as he has been his whole career and his life…💎
People believed Blake at first, even though her claims of sexual harassment are somewhat minor things (not assualt or molestation). So no it's not like ppl automatically disbelieve women. Some ppl just don't have much discernment or are biased and support obvious liars like Amber Heard.
Sounds like you may have already voted on BL side .maybe if you were honest and stop putting all the blame on Justin .it’s trying to blame him.I think your trying to change everyone’s mind .seems like in my Opinion you are Blake side ,I remember this before I watch you again.
You didn’t mention the receipts (videos) of blake and Justin chatting, having cozy moments just days before she turns around… there was comfort coming off from Blake. If she truly was harassed, she wouldn’t want him around.
I did mention that, and I discussed why that perspective is problematic and riddled with victim blaming language. She was cordial with him at one point, then something changed. Seems pretty straight forward to me.
Everyone sucks here imo, I’m still leaning more towards Justin Baldoni, blake lively is a bully. The only reason I say ESH is because they both agreed the meeting occurred and that the words ,”no more” implies that it was done at least once before the meeting.. if the meeting still said, “do not walk in my trailer while I’m in undress” “do not show corn material on phones”. Those demands are pretty specific that makes me think it was done at least once before the meeting. Why would she hold this meeting in between production with these specific requests and why didn’t she hold this meeting before production started. Almost as if she could have set house rules for production such as “no talk about intimate matters during production” “please treat everyone with respect even with differing opinions(ie do not retaliate)” etc
When will people realise that Hollywood is full of narcissists, liars and psychopaths. To me neither side comes over well at all . Much like heard and Depp if you look at all the evidence and listen to it they're both toxic and abusive . Both have previous for this . I'm not sure why people feel they need to pick a side for celebs and get so involved . I think they call it being parasocial or sth
From Portugal, my vision: if a man goes to hire a company that has an history in destroying any women's ... I do not see him as a good human. Let the courts decide.
If someone is in the wrong, what do they deserve, according to you, pat on the back? Just because somebody is a 'woman' does it make them right? Justin didn't start this, she's coming after him. Should he just let them bully him into giving up the rights?
Before you came out with so much more detail I found myself questioning myself about my take on falling for the pr of JB. But I have found that my take is simular to your take on both BL and JB. I am also a surviver and it took me years to think this way decades. I'm 60 this year. Thank you coming back to this with so much more to think about.
This video was so painfully biased. It started off well, and then it goes downhill, and it'll just be screeching in the very end. I'm so very sorry that you were abused by someone pretending to be a good person. I can see how someone like Justin Baldoni may trigger you. There is a victim of SA that spoke on his behalf. I feel it may help to see what another victim feels about Justin, as someone who is a close friend of his. I will say, my husband, is so very different from a guy like Justin, Justin is not the kind of man Id ever look at, but being a douche is not illegal, nor should it make women automatically feel harrassed. I truly hope that BL was not abused on set because that's unfortunate, however; the footgae that came out maybe says she was uncomfortable, but actually harrassed. No. I think Justin included maybe some things that seem kinda petty, but truthfully, if you can't see how those things can be hurtful, you yourself are dismissive of others' feelings. But it's not anything new of BL. People know she's an elitest. Btw, i understand maybe some professionalism, therefore, i am not the kind of person to complain about something like that, but just like you said you may not be at your best by being abused, imagine you work 10 years on a movie and someone comes to try and take it, would you be nice? Wouldn't you throw some pity into the mix? I think a lot of us would be out of being hurt.
Like i commented on a Popcorn planet video : everybody react differently to a situation, including harassment. So what BL or RR did do not change the fact BL could have been a victim of harassment.
I’m not taking sides with either of them. I don’t care about either of them. I think this is one of the dumbest and messiest things I’ve ever seen in Hollywood. I hope both of them lose so they can become irrelevant and everyone can move on. Celebrities already have enough money in the world for generations and can continue to live better than most people, even with a destroyed reputation. They need to take their losses and move on with their lives. Most of us will never be as successful as them but enough is never enough. This lawsuit is embarrassing to watch.
Agreed the lawsuits are a lot of he said she said with small amounts of things in writing. It is very emotional based and they both lose being in this kind of public media
The sad reality is that just about every man has made a woman uncomfortable in some capacity and they have absolutely no idea about it. I don’t know what the truth is, but I know that if he was the feminist he believes himself to be, he’d be asking himself (and Blake)how he made her uncomfortable and learning from that and adjusting his behavior. Anyway it was a terrible movie and they probably shouldn’t work together again 😂
You started out great. I was appreciating your more well-rounded take on both Blake and Justin at first. But then your mask slipped and you devolved into aggressively attacking one side over the other. I had to stop watching. Also noticed that you cherry picked what texts to talk about from Justin's lawsuit so you could strongly defend Blake's. (Yes, some of us have read both lawsuits in their entirety, so we know what's in them, and can thus tell when you're cherry picking and deliberately leaving stuff out.) Why is it so hard to find unbiased videos on this issue? I'm hungry for some takes on this feud where the content creator is team NoOne and can give a fair and accurate assessment. On another note, from one SA survivor to another: sending you virtual hugs. 🫂❤
I read both lawsuits and I don't think any of the text she omited would have led the audience to a more favourable take towards Justin Baldoni. She also did not "aggressively" attack anyone - what video did you watch
Thanks so much for taking the time to do this video - it summarised everything really well and also did an exceptional job at dissecting how we need to examine media with a critical eye. Thank you alls for also sharing your own experiences that was incredibly courageous of you❤
Maybe it's just me but ( and I'm a woman) , calling someone's leather pants sexy is fine, so is asking someones weight , it's weird if someone says they can talk to my dead relative but not lawsuit worthy. I'm not saying BLs boundaries were not crossed but as someone who can be sensitive about some things in a dramatic way, the way she acted is a tad much. Showing videos about birth though, is definitely weird & extremely gross. The smear campaign i think is something JB wanted to do & sort of planned for but happened organically & then they added fuel to the fire. Overall, it is just messy but i do believe JB more than BL because nuance & context seems to be kinda lost with BL. Not to mention that to focus on empowerment does not equate to not answering questions on DV. I don't care that Blake is mean , but to me some of the things you said are also a bit exaggerated, like Justin's proposal video, i saw it years ago & thought it was the cutest thing ever, i also saw a video of him talking about his Pn addiction about 2 years ago & to me it takes a lot of courage to talk about something like this. Just like Blake being mean & bossy doesn't mean she shouldn't be believed, the same goes for Justin.
I honestly think that it depends on the context of the birth video being shown. If it was relevant to what they were working on and the woman giving birth had given permission, I don’t see a problem. Some people might be uncomfortable with it buts it’s in no way po**ography.
Not at work. I don’t want a coworker telling me my pants are sexy, I don’t want a coworker commenting on my weight, and I sure as 💩 don’t want to see a video of a coworkers wife giving birth. Not appropriate.
@@JulesAl-Mighty I totally get that, which is why I prefaced it maybe it's just me. Someone who is not okay with it should not have their boundaries crossed but to me this raises the question of what is considered sexual harrasment. For simple context - I'm Indian & i understand the way victims are treated by the media & law but at the same times there has been a very high rise in men's su*cides due to false SA/SH claims. It has forced me to put a line between what is not appropriate or can make a person uncomfortable & what is SA/SH.
Re. the emojis, I thought I saw a post somewhere saying that the way they downloaded the text messages didn’t allow for emojis to be displayed; that could be incorrect but is an important point if true. I really feel like this is an instance where everyone is awful. I believe Blake’s allegations about JB and I also believe that her behaviour, especially in terms of commandeering the editing of the film, was not ok. However, as far as I’m aware, only one of these people’s behaviour is criminal. I’m hopeful that we have grown enough as a consumers of media that we can acknowledge that someone like BL who is widely disliked can also be a victim of sexual harassment.
And also… the neurodivergent “angle” he planned to take is so cooked I can’t even think about it. I am absolutely riddled with ADHD and I have never sexually harassed or assaulted anyone. Like what do you MEAN my guy 😩
Am I the only one the HR meating they had at the couples house finds really bizzare? I know her husband can be there as her representative, but its their house, their territory, it sounds unbelievably unprofessional and doesn't even sound like a real thing. Furious husband,other celebrities,they didn't even know what kind of meating that was at first,correct me if I'm wrong about this please,and the Baldony team says they haven't even seen the real document until Times reported.Is this really valid? I don't understand.
I appreciate this update, but I still take issue with you still having a problem with Blake deciding to conform to her contractual obligations during promotion. By that time, she knew she had a lawsuit against Justin that was going to move forward after awards season, and she didn't want to have dirty hands under the law by having violated her contract around the promotion. As someone who worked as an attorney for SAG-AFTRA with many contacts in the business I'm just putting out there that when it all comes out in court those who bashed Blake about all old BS are going to feel about a centimeter tall. I mean come on! Going after her now for her wedding venue when it wasn't an issue back then when she was married? Give me a break.
I think Blake is a snob with the depth of a puddle. I'm not debating that. But I think it's strange that literally nobody else on that cast and crew is on Justin's side. You'd think someone, ANYONE, would speak up for him otherwise, Blake's power be damned. Also, his lawyer keeps talking about suing Blake into ruin. Talking, but no filing. Like... just do it already instead of continually yapping about it? Or is there a reason why you don't?
Ryan's between a rock and a hard place because I don't think his (or most people's) ego at that level would allow him to settle with Justin outside of court but then if he's reviewed the evidence that's now been published, he'll know that he can't win in court either.
I've been asked for weeks why I haven't posted an updated video. Every video on my channel takes 2-3 weeks to make so please be patient! I've been working non-stop, analyzing every word of every legal document amidst the holidays and wild fires in southern California. I hope everyone is safe, take care of yourselves 💙
Edit: those of you riding for Justin need a reminder that he abandoned his "non-toxic male feminist" identity the minute he was accused of wrongdoing by a woman. He hired Bryan Freedman, a lawyer accused of *gang-raping a 17-year-old girl.* He denied Blake's harassment claims and attacked her despite having a TED TALK about the importance of validating a woman's claims. He hired Johnny Depp's attack dog PR expert. He blamed his bad behavior on being neurodivergent. The entire cast unfollowed him on social media. He admitted to saying things to his wife that were so mean he would get canceled for it. He admitted to getting so deep into the character of Ryle that he “took it too far.”
Everyone keeps focusing on how Blake is a liar, but don't you see that Justin is too? His entire brand is being an ally to women!
The thought, effort and time you put into your videos stands out. Thank you.
Only 2-3 weeks? Thats amazing. PS: I started following you when you did beauty content. I like this sooo much better, but still always curious to know what you’re wearing for your beautiful looks. 😂
But that's the very thing they've exploited! Justin being a 'nice guy' an 'ally to women', a 'weak' feminist who'll just go along with whatever she wants (and he did for the longest time from what it sounds like) and who would not fight back.
That's what Ryan mocks in Deadpool with the 'Nicepool' character, who then gets executedby (!) by Ladypool, the character previously portrayed by BL and she does the voiceover for it in the actual movie.
There was a MAJOR imbalance of power here with BL holding all the cards.
They wanted the rights to the sequal badly and expected Justin to bend over backwards and hand it over to them.
Romour has it that there was a LOT of chemistry between them on set to begin with. While I don't think actual feelings were caught, something may have gone done and Blake's ego was hurt ('she got rejected by Justin', she 'expected him to fall for her and he didn't' - there are multiple theories out there). RR was not liking this, got jelous and went bullistis. He comes across very controlling.
'NO MORE' is the anti DV organisation Justin advocates and committed to donate 1% of the profit to.
Blake's team used 'no more' in her claim as a 'smart' catchy reference , BL doesn't give a 'ratsarse' about DV or victims in general, and she hasn't even read the book that she's so passionate about getting the rights to...
The timeline for her SH claim doesn't add up, please look into this. She also has falsely accused people in the past.
Justin isn't perfect but he's a lot more honest, the things you bring up against him are things he shared himself. He didn't have to be this vulnerable.
Blake and Ryan on the other hand are fake, desperately trying to portray 'perfection ' when they're far from it. They're very out of touch with people and reality, that's people's (or at least my) issue, not just the lies.
Entitled and egoistic.
As for the cast, they backed 'power and money' and their 'future job' as most likely was certain she'd get the right to the next film. She never in a million years expected to go down, because of who she thinks she is.
Blake is a bully and comes with her 'dragons' - Ryan and Taylor
THANK YOU for this!! Idk how people are still riding for Justin. It’s so depressing how deep misogyny still is in our society.
You’re focusing on the wrong things here. Blake clearly manipulated Justin throughout the film, she wanted her producer credit, she wanted to write and she wanted RR involved. Justin has proved this. He’s also proved that she never really intended to walk she just wanted it done her way. Justin has produced the emails and texts where he says; we don’t have a choice but to do it ‘98% her way’. They didn’t have the budget to start again with a new actress. Justin Baldoni does not have billions like Blake and Ryan. We’ve seen she lied about the intimacy coordinator by demanding one when she texts proved there was one there the whole time and whenever Justin said ‘I think you should meet her’ Blake turned it down ‘we don’t need one’ ‘we’ve got this’ etc. Blake has also claimed a multitude of things happened when no audio was recorded but Justin has the recordings, they haven’t been released but his legal team have it all and have confirmed it proves she’s lying and given very specific examples like him ‘hitting’ on her. He’s talking about her being hot i.e warm, she says he then said ‘I’m not attracted to you’ when in fact she goes on to suggest he gets a nose job. Whatever did or didn’t happen I find her part in this despicable, to have all that money and power and use it to manipulate a not so successful Hollywood star and destroy a film about DV, its not excusable. You don’t mention anything Blake and Ryan have done which is so manipulative, again on a film about DV, which centres on manipulation, there are no words for how sickening this is. The long texts she sent Justin about ‘[her] Dragons’ Ryan and Taylor which was just a very long winded threat.
You are reading so much into what Justins “done” to Blake. At this point his wrong doings are all just speculation, there’s no proof of any of the claims against him whereas everything Blake has said he has proof that either shows his innocence or that the facts may have been misinterpreted to make him seem like the creep they are painting him out to be. Justin has also made everything public even if it makes him look bad.
Imagine how it must feel for young actresses/extras/vulnerable women on film sets that really are being harassed by creeps to see Blake Lively, wife of Ryan Reynolds doing this kind of damage to women’s rights because Justin told her she ‘smelt good’ to reassure her after she said ‘sorry I smell bad its my spray tan’. Another flaw in all her reports is there’s many things that happened on days that she wasn’t even on set. His lawyers have proved she was in a different state when she claims he was in her trailer harassing her.
I thank Ms Kjersti for showing us Blake is most certainly not a feminist, she is rude and cruel. We all know Blake never gets on with her co-stars and we always wanted to know why, Justin Baldoni is paying the price for us finding out that she is truly hideous. It’s not his fault she’s rude to journalists (and it seems any women that can’t enhance her career or public image), it’s not his fault her hair care range was shit and its definitely not his fault she named alcoholic beverages in honour of a DV film which essentially is why she’s suing him.
This was supposed to get her back in women’s good books as well by claiming she’d been upset by a powerful man - delusional, she stood up for weinstein, she voiced how she felt about the ‘genius’ of Woody Allen and was very happy to be in films for him. She sucks
Hi, Kait. I am a SA survivor and I wanted to believe her...But, with all the evidences, past and present, I do not. And I think her and Amber Heard made it harder for the rest of us. To me - Blake is a power hungry, mean and selfish person who thinks she can always get her way. Do I think he is a perfect person? No...But I think she lied and is trying to redo her fallen reputation through him.
This
Couldn't agree more. She tried to set up her SH victim cred.
The Amber Heard comparison is way off. Because she actually experienced abuse by Depp and there was a lot of reactive abuse from her. Depp isn’t just a victim, he’s also a perpetrator which isn’t surprising since he had substance abuse issues.
@marronmargarite8893 100%
@@CherryJuli What a gross generalization of “substance abuse issues.”
The fact she deleted things from text messages says everything
31:25 you said there is zero evidence of Justin taking accountability but he did concede to everything Blake wanted and she even admits that much in her complaint. He went to that meeting and apparently signed a document. This is said by both of them. Also, Justin shows text messages where he said he'll continue to take the high road. How do you take the high road without conceding to the other party's demands which is a form of accountability. You said his reaction was to retaliate against her and try to destroy her career! What?! That to me says that you believe Blake's claims so why are you trying to act like you are on no one's side. I'm genuinely confused on what you think you did in this video 🤔
Because she was defending Blake
Oh it's clear as day she's on Blake's side
Huh? He said the lawsuit was the first time he ever saw that document.
@gaila.9852 yeah, the 30 demands one she put in her lawsuit and complaint. She gave them one with 17 demands and said she won't continue filming until they signed which they did even though they didn't agree with some of them.
@@funnylilnarutogal2 Didn’t Justin’s team say that they added “no more” after the fact?
You have made a shocking amount of assumptions for someone claiming to be working on analysing evidence.
You say as Blake’s contract on returning to filming shows the things she is asking not be done ‘must have happened’ or ‘they wouldn’t have signed it’ they would have objected to it. That is pure assumption and the assumption is wrong along with a lot of the other things you’ve claimed, if you’d have looked further into it you’d have known that they all agreed to sign because they found her so difficult and they couldn’t afford to hold up production any longer. Blake mentions the intimacy coordinator in this… it is well known there was an intimacy coordinator from the beginning that Justin always had on set even though Blake didn’t want her there!
That is just one of Blake’s pr manipulation stunts and you believed it, as they intended you put 2 & 2 together and got 5. Ryan and Blake have the best and most powerful PR teams in the industry, if people fall for the most basic stunts like that what chance does the truth have
I kinda think Ryan knows a lot about the industry and wanted Blake to trigger the morality clause for the rights, never intending for this to go public. Baldoni seemed like an easy target because when you're a professed male feminist you'll agree to almost anything with a woman. He wanted women telling him about the female perspective for the movie, he mentioned specific jobs for the movie that he wanted women to control. He let Blake take over wardrobe, let her take over music, let her take over editing, gave her a producer credit, signed her papers about boundaries etc. I think Blake and Ryan absolutely did not expect him to fight back.
Oh wow, I suspected they wanted the rights to the sequel but this is the first time I’ve heard about a morality clause as a method to do so. I need to research…
Imagine going through such great lengths and attempting to be neutrally biased regarding both parties, only to have every argument you made for Blake be disproven as a lie in a $400 million dollar lawsuit. That’s a bad day.
More bad days ahead too, as BL's lies are exposed in court. For as nasty as she is with interviewers and co-stars, can anyone really imagine this self-described "bulldozer" cowering in the corner while this man harasses her? I'll believe in the Easter Bunny before I'll believe that.
I’m sleeping just fine at night, thanks!
@ I appreciate the effort you put forth but you were right the first time
@@StateofKaitso many people here have voiced proper criticism of the video. Why are you being so snarky and defensive? Why not be open to it and reflect if there’s truth to the criticism?
@ She told me I'm having a bad day, I simply told her I was not. If you disagree with me, you disagree with me. It's all good!
I'm not sure if she's lying...or if he's lying...but what I AM sure of is...BL wants the rights to that second book/film.
That and she is a mean girl
To the book she hasn't read...
It’s replacing as to why she wants it so bad in the first place since she never took the time to read any of the BOOKS 🤦🏻♀️
Exactly ugh this is so obvious it’s boring
She thought she can do it like her husband did it with the Deadpool franchise. They bully their way into franchises without having to pay for the rights.
There is a lot of information that was left out in your reporting.
No one knows what happened.
Allegations shouldn’t be stated as fact.
BL was in charge of the marketing. Sony did not tell her to make cameos of RR pretending to be a “jealous husband” on a movie about DV, they didn’t tell her to market her alcohol brand at the premieres and Sony commented in an article “It Ends With Us’: Sony Chief Praises Blake Lively for “Advancing the Conversation Around Domestic Violence”’. Doesn’t really sound like Sony strayed away from the topic, she herself avoided and deflected every time she was asked about DV.
I am sorry but I cannot watch your video until the end because you are projecting your own experience on this story. I don’t believe one second that BL has been SH, otherwise it would appear on her official lawsuit that she filed after the JB lawsuit against the NYTimes. And RR wouldn’t make jokes about it with Nicepool in his film. From the beginning they wanted to take over JB’s film, and if I had been him, I would have hired the PR team way sooner. Because I remember reading a lot of bad things about him before the film was released. On the other hand, regarding her, I only saw stupidity coming out of her mouth. She has always been problematic and her costars have always been silent about it because she’s powerful with RR on her side, but even before, nobody wanted to say a word against her but we could see that there was a problem. I, and it’s just my opinion, think that she tried something with him and he was not interested, which made her feel rejected and she decided to punish him. Probably the move was to take over the film by putting him in a difficult situation, but as he didn’t comply, she had to do it differently and she felt insulted. The sage thing, I don’t know if it’s true but it’s not illegal, it’s just a little funky.
I have been SH in my life, and no way I would have insisted to lock down myself with the supposedly harasser to edit a video, and my husband wouldn’t have let me. I am more concerned about BL and RR methods to force people to do things that they don’t want to do, and the way they bully people, because that could actually be a crime.
When you spent millions of dollars on a film and when you have the main actress threatening you to quit the film in the middle of it, or not to do the promotion, or what else, you do whatever it takes to please her. A narcissistic person can be very vindictive with no empathy at all.
So maybe JB is a little eccentric and very peace and love but it doesn’t make him a harasser. On the other hand, BL and RR intentions were very clear from the beginning. After all, RR had some practice as he already stole another film from someone else. This is what happens when you become very rich, powerful, entitled, and you totally lost touch with reality.
JB put all his soul in this film, he has never been accused of anything before, why would he be stupid enough to make uncomfortable someone more powerful than him? BL was forced on him by Sony, he should have listen to his gut and not go for it. Maybe he had no choice?
I don’t know these people but I go with my gut, no SH here, probably no smear campaign against BL, it would have affected his film, the PR team were paid to protect him. And he was right to hire them, he should have done it sooner.
So she supposedly has been harassed but she refuses to talk about DV? Does it make sense to you? And she waits for the film to be released, she tries with her husband to buy the rights of this film and as he refuses, only then, she decides to make her complaint because supposedly she has been harassed? Who is believing this story?
@ I totally agree with you.
I agree as a survivor, i wouldnt want to continue working with the ab-ser, not one bit. She had SO MUCH POWER unlike most of us who didnt have any at workplace and she didnt do SHYT? The most i can believe is that JB is too emotional and almost seem like a creep. She couldve shut the production down, or asked for another actress to replace her. She can pay for any penalty anyway. If she didnt want the public to know, why didnt she fake it even on the premier? Everything from her and RR are BS
…You touched on every point here, good job 👍 I was also SH’d in Hollywood, but I was a powerless peon at the time who had just uprooted my life to move to California to be an assistant. I needed my job and stuck it out for two years and I was miserable. Btw I did tell my boss that his nephew harassed me and I was told to “toughen up.” SH is serious, and BL is one of the least serious people I’ve ever seen (seems RR is perfect for her). She also has a history of false allegations. There’s a lady named Jamie who’s been on TH-cam talking about how BL falsely accused her of “fangirling her” when she was a PA in one of her first projects and almost got her fired. I just see the power imbalance and the resulting takeover of JB’s film and I see a “strategy” not a real situation.
@ I agree with you, and yes, I saw that girl who was falsely accused by BL for no reason. I’m wondering why she does that? Is she completely insane? Regarding Baldoni it was obviously orchestrated and premeditated which definitely removes the insanity possibility.
@@YayaBolender …based on past experience, I think BL has a personality disorder, like Borderline Personality Disorder specifically. Here’s what it says about BPD online: “Borderline personality disorder (BPD) is a mental health condition that is "marked by an ongoing pattern of varying moods, self-image, and behavior," according to the National Institute of Mental Health (NIMH). A key characteristic of BPD-and a key diagnosing criteria for the disorder in The Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM-5)-is impulsivity, as well as issues with maintaining personal and professional relationships, says Mayra Mendez, Ph.D., a licensed psychotherapist and program coordinator for intellectual and developmental disabilities and mental health services at Providence Saint John's Child and Family Development Center. People with BPD will have trouble functioning as a result of their personality, and may often display unstable and unhealthy behaviors, says Mendez. Those unstable and unhealthy behaviors, in turn, affect all aspects of a person's life with BPD, says Mendez, as those with the disorder tend to struggle with self-image, and have a hard time defining their own sense of self. Their personal perceived inadequacies also spill over into their relationships: "If they can't live with themselves, then they can't live with others very well," says Mendez, Expect that a person with borderline personality disorder will have a point of view that involves extremes-often resulting in intense mood swings, Mendez says. "One day you are all good to them and the next day you're their worst enemy," she explains. "These are pervasive patterns, meaning they are always there. They don't play out better with one person more than another." It's also common for people with borderline personality disorder to frequently question how they see themselves, making them quick to change their interests and values, according to NIMH. Substance abuse and self-harming behavior are common, as is dissociation (the feeling of being cut off from yourself, or seeing yourself outside of your own body). People with BPD also frequently experience difficulty trusting others and inappropriate, intense bursts of anger.
“Mendez says interactions within relationships are typically a tell-all for whether or not a person is dealing with BPD. "When they start to relate to someone, they either idealize them-they're over the top-or they destroy them because they no longer fit their idealistic perspective or perception," she says.
Sound familiar?
The biggest factor to consider is the imbalance of power, which cannot be disregarded.
@PosaPunto and she has a longer more popular career and reputation esp due to her marriage to RR
@ 💯
@@PosaPunto Yes. This is why I'm befuddled by people who believe she felt victimized by anything he did or said. We've all seen her mouth running a hundred miles an hour in the press tour, spouting completely nonsensical things. Do we really think that she has such control of her thought process that she never crossed the line herself, never said something inappropriate when talking about s*x or telling a ribald story? Sheesh.
This didn’t feel at all like a ‘team no one’ piece. I believe that both things can be true: Justin acted inappropriately on set AND Blake saw it and weaponized it from the get, inflating the narrative to get control of the production and future productions. They both then engaged in smear campaigns, but Blake is actually incredibly unlikable in exchanges that had nothing to do with this movie, so that’s why we are here since she has significantly more power and resources than Justin does.
Your attempt to appear objective while practically seething with an obvious position speaks to your own experience, not what’s happening here. I’m so sorry for your trauma, I too am a victim of sexual violence.
Great assessment!
Very biased take…. Baldoni showed actual receipts to counter almost every single allegation BL made and before you’ll believe the person defending themselves by showing you actually proof defending himself that it’s not as the ny times tried to make it appear, no, you watered it down any way you could every time and not once did that with BL allegations, you’ll believe the person that’s just saying words😂 smh…as late as you are to this story and as much info his lawyer has spoke/shown on about those allegations & you didn’t mention a single thing cus it’s clear you just want to believe BL…you could have just kept this and I can’t wait til this is settled…hope you do a video admitting that you were wrong
She is extremely biased for sure😆😆
Why do you sound like you think Blake is totally innocent and the guy is guilty, when there is literal proof of Blake using her "dragons" to literally threaten Baldoni? What kind of innocent person would ever brag about how she can basically squash him in Hollywood. Since Blake believes she wields all the power, why would she ever have put up with any scene where she feels uncomfortable? Baldoni was a relative no body and she claimed to be the lead character of Game of Thrones. WTF? Why was Taylor Swift at that meeting? That makes so little sense and Taylor admitted she was at that meeting? Who tries to show off their "influential" friends unless they are trying to convey a specific impression of how much they can bully a person. Also, just like with Meghan Markle, you only need to talk to people who have worked for her or with her to see what her real personality is like. She has trashed so many people over the years. It is one thing if two people in your whole life complain about you, but there has always been an actor or staff that was offended by her in every single interaction she has had. The reeks of "mean girl" as does Taylor Swift. Swift is so gross and pathetic singing about things that appeal to a 16 year old when she is a women in her 30s? Gross. Some of these Hollywood people are like cartoon characters not real humans.
This aged like milk. In like, a few hours lol
Nothing has changed. It’s all PR and reputation management, they’re both out for blood and trying to damage each other, none of them are good people, and no one cares about survivors.
@@StateofKait I lot has changed. Did you see Justin’s lawsuit? .. pretty crazy. I do not feel like Blake will win this, she has already been caught lying. She needs to get out now.
I respect your video, but there is something very underhanded going on
@ I saw his lawsuit and my mind has not changed. Unless I missed something, the worst thing Blake is accused of is being controlling and power-hungry, but the worst thing Justin is accused of is creating an unsafe work environment and harassing women.
@ but if Justin has the tapes and film footage, as stated in the lawsuit, disproving her claims. Video explicitly showing the counter of what she has accused him of. For example; footage of her wearing a body suit during the birthing scene. This disproves a lot of her sexual harassment claims. I don’t think his lawsuit would have made that statement if he wasn’t going to provide the footage.
@@Letstunein They've both made concrete statements claiming they have evidence, so we'll see in court. But here's a copy of my pinned comment, which sums up my feelings on Justin:
He abandoned his "non-toxic male feminist" identity the minute he was accused of wrongdoing by a woman. He hired Bryan Freedman, a lawyer accused of gang-raping a 17-year old girl. He denied Blake's harassment claims and attacked her despite having a Ted Talk about the importance of validating a woman's claims. He hired Johnny Depp's attack dog PR expert. He blamed his bad behavior on being neurodivergent. The entire cast unfollowed him on social media. He admitted to saying things to his wife that were so mean he would get canceled for it. He admitted to getting so deep into the character of Ryle that he “took it too far.”
That is not a person I would trust, regardless of who ends up being right or wrong here. Everyone keeps focusing on how Blake is a liar, but based on Justin's public persona, he is too.
You didn't touch on the blatant mocking of Baldoni in Reynold's Deadpool film. That's what really tipped my opinion in Baldoni's favor. For such a serious accusation, they don't seem to be treating it seriously. There are petty things included in Lively's lawsuit, like no giving hugs or saging, which for an artistic venture with a director known for his woowoo practices felt like perhaps the accusations had another agenda. She did take over the production by weaponizing these complaints to Sony. Baldoni also owns the rights to the sequel. What do you want to bet that the terms to drop her lawsuit against him is to transfer those rights to her?
Please address this bc it’s gross 🤢 also Ryan took over the Deadpool movie from the director much like Blake is trying with Justin ..: also Blake kills nice pool in the Deadpool movie it’s really awful. It changed my mind about everything …
There's not enough for me to verify both sides' claims in my mind, but Justin has produced more evidence and that makes me view him as the more credible person at the moment. That aside, Blake and Ryan just seem like massive bullies on a power trip based on their conduct. They are completely aware of their influence on the media and the public. Taking a blatant dig at a small time actor and director (of whose film you have inserted yourselves as producers in) in your own massive blockbuster (which was also co-opted) is pretty darn low. I'm glad to see people falling out of love with celebrities and that people are scrutinising them harshly because this isn't something you take likely or to use as an opportunity to benefit from.
😂😂😂what a ridiculous accusation
Nicepool has scene where he says, "I'm saving my face to do a podcast about monetizing women's rights" - Justin Baldoni does a podcast about women and men's rights called "Man Enough?" . Is that a coincidence? I don't know I'm asking. 😮
You sound toxic AF and engrained with misogyny.
There was a 17 point conditions to return to set document not a 30 point document. In her complaint she presented a 30 point safeguard that was not presented to the Wayfarer team before the complaint was filed which is clearly misleading and misinforming.
…👆 This.
Obviously you are not "team no one". Your bias is also very obvious! I understand your pain and your bias, but please stay objective without colouring your comentary with your bias. Theyre both awful and let them fight it out.
Blake was taking over the whole movie. She wanted to be the producer , edit the movie, select wardrobe and use Ryan’s Deadpool crew instead of Baldonis . Essentially trying to take over all credits for the movie since it was so successful. Blake never even read the book!
This entire video is backfiring on you. You are welcome to express your opinions but you are skewed towards Blake your bias is obvious, almost like you have an ulterior motive. You use so many excuses for Blake and justifications.
You don’t address the issue how she had the power to “banish him to the basement” and thew giddy fits over edits. Because she is the one who wielded all the power, no one believes that he dared to harass her. He was scared of her!
Nothing is backfiring, I knew 90% of the comments would be pro Justin. And none of you guys know what power Blake had, you were not on that set. The parasocial relationship here is shocking.
She gave a very nuanced analysis of the situation and very purposefully did not take a side, as you assume she did. Just because she did not discredit the likelihood that Justin Baldoni did something does not mean she absolved Blake Lively of any bullshit she's done. You're letting your own bias against Blake Lively blind YOU to the nuance of this situation lmao. The irony is irony-ing, babes. You're mad because Kait won't view the situation as black and white the way you want her to.
@@StateofKait We've all seen BL try to take down others - the videos are all out there now. She does it with aplomb and an obvious sense of enjoyment. There is a meanness and an obvious sense of power there that she knows she can wield. She has actually referred to herself as a "bulldozer" and she has orders of magnitude more power than Baldoni has in Hollywood. That's why there are so few here who buy her story of suffering as his SH victim. That is just nonsense.
Interesting takes here. It's interesting that only men can seem to have power and be bullies in the eyes of some. We will see how your takes hold up as more info comes out.
Right? Especially now that she's falsetto accused crew members in the past.
Ya some oblivious women esp. who apparently never met a female narcissist/sociopath smh..or some of them probably are themselves lol
I'm shocked how many people till stand by Blake Lively. There are 1000 holes in her complaint.
Not really, if so lets the courts decide... Why put him as the good guy? And why is she the bad person?
@71mjl just compare the lawsuits. He has prove, she fabricated proof and the majority are baseless claims. I also do legal work for a living and deciding if a person is telling a true story is what I'm trained for. And US courts are a joke btw, no truth comes out there🤣
So pretty much you are siding with BL because it is hard to believe a hegemonically-attractive guy has been outspoken about his support of positive masculinity and feminism for years (at least 10 publicly)? But it is hard to believe that a woman considered an A lister in Hollywood can be a bully?
Blake and Ryan are clearly quite manipulative, and worked hard to try to mitigate her disastrous interviews. In addition, there are tons of holes in Blake's stories/lawsuit. I think they are both bullies and now there true colors are here for everyone to see. RR and BL figured they are Hollywood elite, and everyone would bow to them and destroy Baldoni. I'm glad he fought back.
But arguably Blake has more power than Justin. Ordinarily, the director is that but not in this case. She had more power! If he was such a problem on set then she could have had had him dealt with then, for everyone’s safety not just hers!
Dear Kait… I found your review very biased. Probably because you haven’t been following these ppl long enough. Just one example: why would Justine sign that if they hadn’t taken place? Because, allegedly, she has threatened him several times that she wouldn’t continue if he doesn’t do what she asks for. And this aligns with what we already knew from Blake & her husband throughout their career.
Asks yourself this question instead: how stupid & insane could Justine be to SA someone as powerful as Blake?! Justine has no power compared to this couple so he should have been out of his mind to SA her!
But… all these could have happened we just don’t know.
Pls be fair and do not defend any of them.
Two things can be true at the same time: Blake and Ryan behaved poorly in the past. Blake faced harassment and inappropriate behavior from Justin.
Two things can be true doesn’t make it true.
I recommend Ready to Glare's vid on this topic, she presented this topic much more even
They didn’t attach the document, which is a huge piece of proof. How do they forget that ….
The 30 point document was not presented to Wayfarer or signed by them, it was mentioned and intended to mislead
I think that this whole situation shows how important it is to have media literacy.
In the Philippines, there's this actress Andi Eigenmann who got pregnant and accused the father of the baby, Albie Casiño of not taking accountability and for "neglecting" her (Andi even rounded up her guy friends to assault Albie as revenge). The young and upcoming actor took all the heat, then all of his projects got cancelled and his roles were given to someone else. His whole career burned down to the ground. Turns out, Albie wasn't even the father. The real father is a guy called Jake Ejercito, from a powerful political family. The actress' career still strived, meanwhile Albie's career was ruined and was no longer given projects and opportunities. And people pretended that it didn't happen and Andi got away with her lies. Whenever I hear stories like this, it reminds me of what she did and how the whole industry treated Albie.
#JusticeForAlbie
( Please discuss it on your channel 😔)
This is a PR war and a battle for control of the movie. The alleged SA is the sword and shield BL used to wrest control of the movie. Blake has never struck me as a particularly insightful or sensitive woman, nor particularly professional. I’m not buying all of what JB is saying but I am not believing BL very much at all. I expect the lawsuit was initiated to distract from her tone deaf media tour. The rest of it is justification for seizing creative control of the movie. If it goes to court, I’ll be surprised. This is a PR Battle Royale.
The timing of the Times expose and the “research” period and publication date only days after the release of the complaint were terribly close.
I think the cast had plenty of reasons to distance themselves from Justin. Blake and Ryan wield so much more power than Justin. Their careers are important to them.
I think we won’t see a SA lawsuit. But that’s my opinion.
So, he would walk in on her when she was undressed. No locks on doors? Why , when RR berated him for fat shaming her, he didn't yell about walking in on her when naked? Give me a break she's such a liar.
We should be considering the fact that people do not like Blake Lively because of her actions, because of what she has done and said. You have zero evidence to support the narrative that Justin Baldoni is an assaulter. Except that he wore glasses to seem more competent? Should we just forget who has more power in this dynamic? The Hollywood sweethearts that have extensive connections or this practically no-name director that most of us found out existed from this discourse?
I find it curious that you defended the clips of Blake being a bully, but depicted the clip of Justin stating he's imperfect as a problem. The reason there is no evidence of him taking accountability for what he did is because he most likely didn't do anything. There is a power imbalance, Blake and Ryan are A-listers while he's a nobody, so even when they walked all over him the whole time of filming, he STILL didn't retaliate, so I'm not sure what you mean by that because if you were falsely accused of these allegations, would you not defend yourself? Also, her text evidence is obviously tampered with and spliced together, as well as taken out of context. Let's not forget the numerous stories of crew members who have worked with Blake (and Ryan) over the years, and they all have a negative experience. Meanwhile the members of Jane The Virgin and 5 feet apart have nothing but positive things to say. Just something to think about
Damn, the point is really going over everyone’s heads.
I loved many of your previous videos, but I believe here your discussion is largely biassed. I am very sorry for your personal experiences, however, here there is a case of power imbalance that has nothing to do with gender. Blake is the one with way more influence than Justin, so if there were any cases of SH, she would have had enough influence (especially with her dragons, as she puts it herself) to shut down the whole filming process. And she waited for so long to come out not with an interview, personal statements, etc, but with a law suit? It's not looking good for her at all and jeopardises real cases of SH. I also think that she hopes that Justin will be confused with his character Ryle in the movie, so that it's easier to manioulate the audience, paint him as an abuser and get more people on her side. Of course, let's wait for the hearings, so that the whole truth comes out, just like it happened with Amber Heard case. Maybe an update video after Justin's lawsuit will be more objective. Thanks!
Very bad take. You need to do better and deeper reporting.
I've grown up in a home with DV from the age of 7 to 25 so I was a bit scared to even watch the movie but I did, honestly partly to support Justin. If the SH is truly what happened why the hell would they make a completely joke out of it in Deadpool; with nicepool as a way to make a complete joke out of Justin. If I, as someone's partner, would learn they experienced SH the last thing I would think about to make a joke out of all of it. I'm all about standing beside women as a part of womanhood but I can't get behind Blake. Justin never had any issues during his work, look at 'Jane the Virgin where his friendship with the female lead is still extremely strong. Blake however already had enough issues, poor choices and bad behavior. Like making fun of princess Kate. I don't say Justin is a saint but with this situation I do believe Blake and Ryan are actually the bullies in this situation. Justin wasn't even allowed to watch his movie during the premiere but instead was put inside a basement with his friends and family. And while the cast stands with Blake that might be because they side with the power couple to keep their options to new job opportunities open. Brandon Sklenar actually spoke positively about working with Justin but then suddenly changed his mind.
Honey She got rid of the intimacy coordinator, cause she caught feelings for him, just like shes done to many other coworkers. She caught feelings and it wasnt reciprocated and her inflated ego couldnt take it. She then went ballistic. What was she gonna do if he reciprocated? Dump Ryan?
Yeah welllll, My gut tells me it was a power play by Blake Lively. She wanted the film to be her film, direct herself, script changes etc. etc. She didn't get her way and she''s angry...but I could be way off, who knows. I read that Justin wanted to promote the film with the violence in mind, while Blake wanted to show it more lighthearted..
So sorry about what happened to you and all the victims. My heart goes to all of you.
I understand why and from where your point of view comes from.
It's important to me to support and validate women; specially when unfairness has happened to them.
But unfortunately, it's not that blake is an unreliable witness... is that she has been consistently rude, that there has been a power unbalance and that literally, she took over someone else's movie and project.
I understand why you believe her. But unfortunately, I don't. Not this time
The biggest difference between the edited vs the non-edited text messages isn't the emoji but after calling Justin the 'abuser' they say 'it isn't true' - while calling Blake a psychopath at the same time!
Kait, i had no idea about your previous history with DV (if it was mentioned in the previous video, I missed it)
Thank you for being so honest and straightforward, and providing a nuanced take on a *wild* story! ❤
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Well, Justin is now officially suing Ryan Reynolds & Black Lively for $400 million for extortion, defamation....
I didn't know who Justin was until all this. I tend to hyperfocus on certain things so I went down the Baldoni rabbit hole. I've seen several of his podcasts and listened to his book. IMO, I honestly think he's a pretty good dude. I used to like RR.... then I found out he pushed out Tim Miller after the first Deadpool movie and hijacked the franchise. Looks like Blake followed his blue prints on hijacking other's projects. I really do hope Justin's movie is released. Blake's version was pathetic. Tell me you didn't read the book without telling me 😂.
Right now I'm thinking Ryan and Blake are entitled bullies who need to face repercussions of their disgusting actions.
Seriously BL doesn’t know how to lock a door …or make sure that one of her assistants isn’t on hand. I don’t understand why an actor of her standing wouldn’t have tasked her manager and agent to engage with Justin’s agent and manager…that’s their job!
Omg I’m SO sorry you were attacked by your SELF DEFENSE TRAINER??? OMG I’m so sorry 😭😭😭😭 That is heartbreaking. 💔
I was thinking this. And that devastating breach of trust where you go to someone to basically learn how to handle yourself in these circumstances and that leads to it happening. I can't imagine 😞💔
Blake's ego got hurt here (beyond wanting the film rights), as it is all very personal. Maybe she caught feelings and they weren't reciprocated... and Ryan was jealous.
I see a pattern in that couple's behaviour RR strongarming the production company to get rid of Dir. Tim Miller and BL now in an attempt seems to be weaponizing feminism to get rid Justin Baldoni and get herself a sequel. Tim's career took a major hit now they want to fully destroy JB.
Main contradiction is She said herself RR was there all the time. He was there and just let his postpartum wife get s.a. ? Makes zero sense.
As for power imbalance Blake was paid 3 M for the role Justin 300k. Cards are not siding w Blake's honesty on this.
It’s so weird how BL can allegedly complain about many things and it’s okay but JB allegedly rebutted her claims, yet it’s not okay…it doesn’t matter who wins in court because both their reputations have been ruined with JB having a worst recovery process.
Blake said there was an intimacy coordinator on set in an interview.
I say Justin’s version should be released. I’m a DV survivor and I don’t think the movie should have been “grab your girlfriend’s, wear your florals” type of hype.
From what I’ve seen of her past interviews, etc she is a bully. She even partook in the bullying of Princess Catherine and was criticized by fans. That was about a year ago.
#istandwithjustin
Exactly. There were messages released which showed he is trying to set an appointment with the coordinator and she says im good! WTF? And her husband making fun of a man who has SA ed his wife?!
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This is the uncut footage of him being 'creepy', sniffing her.
Spoiler : 'it smells good' is him complementing on her body makeup that she was conscious of...
Believe all women- except when they're a known bully fabricating a narrative in order to destroy a man's life and bankrupt him in court. Neither a fan of JB (have never heard of him before all of this) nor a hater of BL (it's everyone's right to be a mediocre actress) - his counter lawsuit challenges basically everything she says and dude's got receipts, as opposed to BL who among other things "forgot" to attach a document that would prove her point.
And as a matter of fact, your point of view is very anti feminist in itself, because you assume JB as a man had all the power to harass poor helpless BL when it was so clearly the other way around. JB is a guy most people have never heard of while BL and her forever 14-year-old husband are two of the richest and most powerful people in Hollywood. I don't believe for a second they wouldn’t have able to fight him during filming over this.
The likelihood of BL being a poor helpless SH victim under the thumb of an unknown director is probably up there with the odds of her career surviving this fiasco. Feminism is about empowering women, not covering for a woman who is herself a bully.
Much like how I felt about Johnny Depp and Amber Heard, I'll wait until the truth is revealed.
Your bias is so obvious. Giving the woman the of the doubt, and yet
not doing the same for the man. You say we need to be better about not being manipulated by the media, yet you are so manipulated yourself. I can’t.
What is rarely talked about in this whole thing is power dynamics. In harassment and abuse situations, we often think of man vs woman because we live in a patriarchal society where men hold more privilege and power than women. In this case, Ryan Reynolds holds the most power over everyone and he’s a billionaire, so he is unethical in his use of power as well. There is the case of the plantation wedding but Blake’s career choices have been highly questionable as well. Her antebellum clothing line, the interviews, naming an alcoholic drink after the abuser in the movie, being an adamant support of Woody Allen, etc. I think even just the sheer fact that she just agreed and followed Sony’s directive with no evidence of pushback furthers evidence that she is not a feminist nor does she care to stand up for what’s right ever. She has never apologized for things she has done, but her husband swoops in and throws money at it. This movie was supposed to restart her flatlined career but it didn’t. Her and Ryan are still very much on the power heavy end of things here so I just don’t think it is believable that just because the New York Times dropped the complaint before it was filed means anything at all to its validity. We see this move happen a lot in Hollywood. She likely won’t win in the court of public opinion but people will fall for Ryan every time so he’ll keep her afloat. As for Justin, he sounds like a creep and will likely lose in the court of public opinion because there just seems to be a whole lot of ick around him now. Could really care less for either of them, or Ryan. There are no heroes here. If people were being harassed or were unsafe or whatever, the filming could have ended, like people have said. I truly think this is a battle for clout and that’s it. DV survivors were shafted by the film and SA victims will be by this stupid game that both sides are playing. It’s ridiculous and I wish that everyday victims and survivors of any form of violence were benefiting from this stupid public fight.
My mom met her family and it was the perfect glimpse into her weird, trashy and completely disconnected from reality life and personality. The way they acted was perfectly in line with her absurd attitude and behavior. This stuff with Baldoni wasn’t a one of either so put that together with the laughable promotion from her about grabbing your friends, florals and have fun 🤷♂️ huh? It’s a serious movie about DV. Then you throw in her promoting her hair care line instead of supporting women who have faced DV throughout their life. The stuff with the fat shaming was all because Justin had a serious back injury and lifting her was a risk. I’ve also listened to a few of Baldoni’s podcast episodes and this behavior has never happened or ever seemed to come even close to what Blake is alleging.
The other thing I think is Blake isn’t just a random new actress breaking in and in this dynamic she had all the power. Her and her husband are worth well over 1 billion dollars and if she wanted to get him fired it probably wouldn’t have been too hard considering Ryan’s relationships and power in the industry as well.
Now is that to say something like this has never happened before with a supposed feminist advocate? No. But with everything said by Blake, the way she’s acted during filming, before/after and Justin’s own history it just doesn’t seem like Justin was the monster that Blake accused him of being.
30:07 My husband would also never speak to me in a way that would make people hate him. It's weird to me that there are people out there that think that's normal.
Makes me really sad
He was exaggerating! It was owed comedic humor to show that he isn’t perfect and he still makes mistakes nevertheless, he realizes that he is wrong and apologizes.
Also, he didn’t mean being cancelled he meant in reference to his image that he wouldn’t appear as the feminist he is in contrast! You weren’t supposed to take it literally.
@@bahamasjamaica ma’am….you don’t know him
@@bahamasjamaicawow so you know him personally? And can speak for him?
Kait, this was a super balanced take, and I really appreciate your sharing of your experience and your analysis. Your content continues to be so thorough and balanced and refreshing-even when it’s on heavy topics like this ❤
I find the whole thing very sad. As a victim myself, I wish the film (which I haven't seen) could have been a stepping stone to awareness or community. I wanted to believe Justin because I was aware of him before this and Blake's press tour comments were awful. I'm also team no one. So sad that people can't just respect each other.
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I initially believed Blake then Justin brought receipts. Why does an innocent person need to edit and change around or take out parts of text messages ? And you are very bias, so bias youre filling in the gaps. We must remain objective. For now we will just have to see what the evidence shows and NOT jump to conclusions as you have full decided BL is the entire or main victim here and JB is bad. And I think you will believe that no matter the ‘evidence’ shows.
See, none of this shit from Justin is actually surprising to me. I'm a Gen X'er and back in the day we used to have what my friends and I would call "SNAGs," which is short for Sensitive New Age Guys. SNAGs would pull their acts all the time to either get in our pants or play the good guys to cover for for being bad guys. He's just a SNAG. Yuck. I wish I could say I have seen more change for the better in my 50-odd years. I've been trying to help. Thanks for all you do. I don't like Blake, but you bring up some really good points about victims needing to be perfect or likeable to be believed.
Guys like that are everywhere!!!! We still talk about this behaviour pattern a lot but we don’t really have a short term for it (that I know of)
If they could strong-arm Sony to take over the film then why couldn’t they strong-arm Sony about promoting the movie with florals, too, so she could showcase what she wanted?
It’s hard for me to take her word at face value knowing that she accuses Makeup Artists of SH for applying her make up with their hands.
You’re right there is no such thing as a “Perfect Victim” however, most victims don’t use methods of extortion and coercion to get their way with their abusers.
During the JD vs AH case I was livid when his past gfs, friends and family were saying how great he was and I have loved JD since I was a child.
Through my own experiences abusers are like night and day when they’re around people that they don’t want to know that they’re shit human beings so, that in itself was extremely triggering for me.
After listening to that trial and reviewing the evidence I felt like an asshole because AH in those recordings reminded me of the gaslighting, abusive and narcissistic behaviors I dealt with.
It just doesn’t sit right with me that these allegations were held over their head whether they’re fact or fiction both are wrong.
Blake said in an interview that there was an intimacy coordinator when someone said she was one she said no that’s actually not allowed and said coordinator was on set
In that interview she was called out on showing JB how to grab her during an intimate scene, denied it and was called out by CH that she also seen the video then started deflecting and shifted the topic.
Kait, I am so very sorry that you were attacked by your self defense trainer. Nobody ever deserves that. I hope you have found peace and healing and that you feel safe now. :/ With all the info I've seen I'm leaning more towards JB being the honest one but we'll see. I wouldn't recommend using anything in relation to Amber Heard to help legitimize Blake's allegations though. The filmed Johnny Depp V Amber Heard trial is available on YT for free. I would recommend listening to all of the recordings at the very least. Unfortunately, there's a lot of content that tries to muddy the waters for that case but I started following the case before the UK trial happened.
What a biased joke, rife with omissions of Baldoni's facts. The banner full of all those fluffy "Blake" flowers is beyond telling. You apply faulty logic in all your weak arguments. Just because a journalist won an award or reported negatively on a harasser, does NOT mean they are incapable of journalistic impropriety, etc. Get a real job.The world does not need anymore dumb "influencers" trying to capitalize on celebrity gossip.
Lol
I am so disheartened to see the comment section, it is very much reminiscent of the online narratives around Amber Heard and Johnny Depp, and it terrible to see us falling for the exact same PR strategy again. I just want to say this: the accuser focuses on the abuse, the abuser focuses on the accuser.
Very very well done Kait ❤ thank you for that. I can tell so much research was done.
Love you SJ, thanks for watching
Holy cow you put a ton of work into this and it's extremely thorough Kait! Bravo!
Anyone can see how downright crazy BL’s behavior is if you’ve watched her press tours. Always mocking the topic DV, disrespecting interviewers like they’re beneath her, and constantly trying to push her haircare or alcohol brand, or trying to talk about her husband instead of the actual topic. Does someone who claims to have been a victim of SH act like the whole situation is a joke? 🙄 Meanwhile, Justin remained respectful, kind and composed throughout, just as he has been his whole career and his life…💎
People believed Blake at first, even though her claims of sexual harassment are somewhat minor things (not assualt or molestation). So no it's not like ppl automatically disbelieve women. Some ppl just don't have much discernment or are biased and support obvious liars like Amber Heard.
Sounds like you may have already voted on BL side .maybe if you were honest and stop putting all the blame on Justin .it’s trying to blame him.I think your trying to change everyone’s mind .seems like in my Opinion you are Blake side ,I remember this before I watch you again.
Thanks for the in-depth analysis and sorry to hear about what you went through as a teenager Kait
This is the most balanced view of this topic I've seen so far, thank you, seems like everyone is getting so hyped on either side 🤷♀️
You didn’t mention the receipts (videos) of blake and Justin chatting, having cozy moments just days before she turns around… there was comfort coming off from Blake. If she truly was harassed, she wouldn’t want him around.
I did mention that, and I discussed why that perspective is problematic and riddled with victim blaming language. She was cordial with him at one point, then something changed. Seems pretty straight forward to me.
Everyone sucks here imo, I’m still leaning more towards Justin Baldoni, blake lively is a bully. The only reason I say ESH is because they both agreed the meeting occurred and that the words ,”no more” implies that it was done at least once before the meeting.. if the meeting still said, “do not walk in my trailer while I’m in undress” “do not show corn material on phones”. Those demands are pretty specific that makes me think it was done at least once before the meeting. Why would she hold this meeting in between production with these specific requests and why didn’t she hold this meeting before production started. Almost as if she could have set house rules for production such as “no talk about intimate matters during production” “please treat everyone with respect even with differing opinions(ie do not retaliate)” etc
The nature of a comment section makes people believe that they have to pick a side. They do not.
When will people realise that Hollywood is full of narcissists, liars and psychopaths. To me neither side comes over well at all . Much like heard and Depp if you look at all the evidence and listen to it they're both toxic and abusive . Both have previous for this . I'm not sure why people feel they need to pick a side for celebs and get so involved . I think they call it being parasocial or sth
From Portugal, my vision: if a man goes to hire a company that has an history in destroying any women's ... I do not see him as a good human. Let the courts decide.
And BL's team hired the same team that represented Harvey Weinstein.
If someone is in the wrong, what do they deserve, according to you, pat on the back? Just because somebody is a 'woman' does it make them right?
Justin didn't start this, she's coming after him. Should he just let them bully him into giving up the rights?
blake was a woody allen supporter honey😭
Before you came out with so much more detail I found myself questioning myself about my take on falling for the pr of JB. But I have found that my take is simular to your take on both BL and JB. I am also a surviver and it took me years to think this way decades. I'm 60 this year. Thank you coming back to this with so much more to think about.
The irony of all of this harassing behavior given the movie topic, given a part of SA often comes with DV… I hope the truth comes out.
I like these videos and appreciate the amount of work it takes. Thank you for your vulnerability.
This video was so painfully biased. It started off well, and then it goes downhill, and it'll just be screeching in the very end. I'm so very sorry that you were abused by someone pretending to be a good person. I can see how someone like Justin Baldoni may trigger you. There is a victim of SA that spoke on his behalf. I feel it may help to see what another victim feels about Justin, as someone who is a close friend of his. I will say, my husband, is so very different from a guy like Justin, Justin is not the kind of man Id ever look at, but being a douche is not illegal, nor should it make women automatically feel harrassed. I truly hope that BL was not abused on set because that's unfortunate, however; the footgae that came out maybe says she was uncomfortable, but actually harrassed. No. I think Justin included maybe some things that seem kinda petty, but truthfully, if you can't see how those things can be hurtful, you yourself are dismissive of others' feelings. But it's not anything new of BL. People know she's an elitest. Btw, i understand maybe some professionalism, therefore, i am not the kind of person to complain about something like that, but just like you said you may not be at your best by being abused, imagine you work 10 years on a movie and someone comes to try and take it, would you be nice? Wouldn't you throw some pity into the mix? I think a lot of us would be out of being hurt.
I'm team Justin Baldoni. I hope he wins. She is a gaslighter.
Like i commented on a Popcorn planet video : everybody react differently to a situation, including harassment. So what BL or RR did do not change the fact BL could have been a victim of harassment.
I am really sorry that you went through such an experience Kait!😢
Nobody believes Blake. She really thought she will get away with this BS. This is not 2020!!
I’m not taking sides with either of them. I don’t care about either of them. I think this is one of the dumbest and messiest things I’ve ever seen in Hollywood. I hope both of them lose so they can become irrelevant and everyone can move on. Celebrities already have enough money in the world for generations and can continue to live better than most people, even with a destroyed reputation. They need to take their losses and move on with their lives. Most of us will never be as successful as them but enough is never enough. This lawsuit is embarrassing to watch.
Agreed the lawsuits are a lot of he said she said with small amounts of things in writing. It is very emotional based and they both lose being in this kind of public media
The sad reality is that just about every man has made a woman uncomfortable in some capacity and they have absolutely no idea about it. I don’t know what the truth is, but I know that if he was the feminist he believes himself to be, he’d be asking himself (and Blake)how he made her uncomfortable and learning from that and adjusting his behavior. Anyway it was a terrible movie and they probably shouldn’t work together again 😂
About to watch! Let’s goooo! Thank you for all your hard work Kait
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You started out great. I was appreciating your more well-rounded take on both Blake and Justin at first. But then your mask slipped and you devolved into aggressively attacking one side over the other. I had to stop watching.
Also noticed that you cherry picked what texts to talk about from Justin's lawsuit so you could strongly defend Blake's. (Yes, some of us have read both lawsuits in their entirety, so we know what's in them, and can thus tell when you're cherry picking and deliberately leaving stuff out.)
Why is it so hard to find unbiased videos on this issue? I'm hungry for some takes on this feud where the content creator is team NoOne and can give a fair and accurate assessment.
On another note, from one SA survivor to another: sending you virtual hugs. 🫂❤
I read both lawsuits and I don't think any of the text she omited would have led the audience to a more favourable take towards Justin Baldoni. She also did not "aggressively" attack anyone - what video did you watch
Blake & Ryan R. have outrageous egos
Thanks so much for taking the time to do this video - it summarised everything really well and also did an exceptional job at dissecting how we need to examine media with a critical eye. Thank you alls for also sharing your own experiences that was incredibly courageous of you❤
They both suck😂
Maybe it's just me but ( and I'm a woman) , calling someone's leather pants sexy is fine, so is asking someones weight , it's weird if someone says they can talk to my dead relative but not lawsuit worthy. I'm not saying BLs boundaries were not crossed but as someone who can be sensitive about some things in a dramatic way, the way she acted is a tad much. Showing videos about birth though, is definitely weird & extremely gross. The smear campaign i think is something JB wanted to do & sort of planned for but happened organically & then they added fuel to the fire. Overall, it is just messy but i do believe JB more than BL because nuance & context seems to be kinda lost with BL. Not to mention that to focus on empowerment does not equate to not answering questions on DV. I don't care that Blake is mean , but to me some of the things you said are also a bit exaggerated, like Justin's proposal video, i saw it years ago & thought it was the cutest thing ever, i also saw a video of him talking about his Pn addiction about 2 years ago & to me it takes a lot of courage to talk about something like this. Just like Blake being mean & bossy doesn't mean she shouldn't be believed, the same goes for Justin.
I honestly think that it depends on the context of the birth video being shown. If it was relevant to what they were working on and the woman giving birth had given permission, I don’t see a problem. Some people might be uncomfortable with it buts it’s in no way po**ography.
Not at work.
I don’t want a coworker telling me my pants are sexy, I don’t want a coworker commenting on my weight, and I sure as 💩 don’t want to see a video of a coworkers wife giving birth.
Not appropriate.
@@JulesAl-Mighty I totally get that, which is why I prefaced it maybe it's just me. Someone who is not okay with it should not have their boundaries crossed but to me this raises the question of what is considered sexual harrasment.
For simple context - I'm Indian & i understand the way victims are treated by the media & law but at the same times there has been a very high rise in men's su*cides due to false SA/SH claims. It has forced me to put a line between what is not appropriate or can make a person uncomfortable & what is SA/SH.
Re. the emojis, I thought I saw a post somewhere saying that the way they downloaded the text messages didn’t allow for emojis to be displayed; that could be incorrect but is an important point if true. I really feel like this is an instance where everyone is awful. I believe Blake’s allegations about JB and I also believe that her behaviour, especially in terms of commandeering the editing of the film, was not ok. However, as far as I’m aware, only one of these people’s behaviour is criminal. I’m hopeful that we have grown enough as a consumers of media that we can acknowledge that someone like BL who is widely disliked can also be a victim of sexual harassment.
Agreed!
And also… the neurodivergent “angle” he planned to take is so cooked I can’t even think about it. I am absolutely riddled with ADHD and I have never sexually harassed or assaulted anyone. Like what do you MEAN my guy 😩
Am I the only one the HR meating they had at the couples house finds really bizzare? I know her husband can be there as her representative, but its their house, their territory, it sounds unbelievably unprofessional and doesn't even sound like a real thing.
Furious husband,other celebrities,they didn't even know what kind of meating that was at first,correct me if I'm wrong about this please,and the Baldony team says they haven't even seen the real document until Times reported.Is this really valid? I don't understand.
IMO everybody has acted terrible in regards to this movie, including Colleen who writes with the sensitivity of 50 grit sandpaper.
I have trouble to believe in Blake because she is so famous, and her husband is very powerful too. Did they really dare to do that to her?
I appreciate this update, but I still take issue with you still having a problem with Blake deciding to conform to her contractual obligations during promotion. By that time, she knew she had a lawsuit against Justin that was going to move forward after awards season, and she didn't want to have dirty hands under the law by having violated her contract around the promotion. As someone who worked as an attorney for SAG-AFTRA with many contacts in the business I'm just putting out there that when it all comes out in court those who bashed Blake about all old BS are going to feel about a centimeter tall. I mean come on! Going after her now for her wedding venue when it wasn't an issue back then when she was married? Give me a break.
I think Blake is a snob with the depth of a puddle. I'm not debating that. But I think it's strange that literally nobody else on that cast and crew is on Justin's side. You'd think someone, ANYONE, would speak up for him otherwise, Blake's power be damned.
Also, his lawyer keeps talking about suing Blake into ruin. Talking, but no filing. Like... just do it already instead of continually yapping about it? Or is there a reason why you don't?
Ryan's between a rock and a hard place because I don't think his (or most people's) ego at that level would allow him to settle with Justin outside of court but then if he's reviewed the evidence that's now been published, he'll know that he can't win in court either.
I think if Blake would've publicly apologized to Flaa, the public would have had a little more grace.
Definitely, Blake grossly mishandled the press tour.