Im using Pyro Dmg Gob with my Arle Team together with Benny - Kazuha and Zhong. Got her Signature weapon and C1. And she literally could clear the boss in Abyss Floor 12 in less than 40 sec max depending on rotation cuz sometimes you couldn’t avoid the tense and excitement while playing in that floor and that makes you lose some crucial points.
Mannnn this QUEEN FATHER was literally INSAAAAAYYYYYYNEEEE! Haven’t seen any dps unit in the game who does this raw damage output solely based on her atk. And yeah, not really trying hard to find any elemental reaction whatsoever she’s literally crazzzzzyyyyyy LOVE HER!!!
Correct me if i'm wrong but her n6 did 290k 0:15 with PYRO and only 272k 0:55 with ATK. So why is every single comment saying atk is better or equal? Edit: It obviously depends on team again as always, in a Bennett-less team Atk% would probably be even or slightly above. With a EM sands instead of atk% Sands atk% could be even or better than pyro despite Bennett in the team
Guys, where did she finish faster with atk%, are you all tripping? With Atk% she started a 2nd attack rotation cause she couldn't one rotate it. With pyro Goblet she needed exactly one N6 attack string With Atk% she needed N6 + N2
those people (kids) living somewhere else in their dreams, what about me I don't have any problem to get any element goblet with max crit rate or crit dmg because I'm just enjoying the game
It mostly depends on your team and your weapon. If you weapon and teammate already give alot of Atk, then dmg bonus would be better, and vice versa also true.
This is why it is important to learn how to dodge cancel or use your normal attack first before charge attack to activate your BOL cuz a lot of the time your first hit which is the highest dmg of your attack to not vape which is a huge dmg lose Arlecchino is one of the few character that wouldn't mind losing a few sec in rotation as long as you get the reaction right cuz she has normal ICD which make it difficult to vape consistently and her later attack have lower dmg so you can just switch and start the rotation all over again as soon as you reset your skill CD edit: General rule is Pyro>atk on team with Bennett while attack is better or equal to pyro on non Bennett team (you can use atk sand and EM goblet too on vape). The difference goes higher the more investment you put on Bennett and your team buff (noblesse, melilith, TTDS alone is already 90% atk buff while Yelan, Kazuha is on average 50-70% dmg buff) but yea the difference isn't so big that you have to pick one over the other if your substat is too far apart
Basically for all those ppl... Use pyro goblet IF you have any. it is about 5% difference in damage so if u have an atk% goblet that will complete the 4 pc (gladiator or the signature set) set OR has just way better crit value just use that but if you have an about the same pyro goblet use the pyro one as it will be a better buff (also if you use bennet and no kazuha pyro goblet will be better but if you use kazuha and no bennet atk% will be better but these increases are very miniscule)
@@musashi.5868 whetever has better substats or activates 4pc bonuses i guess also isnt furina anti synergy with arlecchino? Id prefer yelan or even xingqiu with her in stead of furina
@@DGS_ZERO the only thing that prevents arlecchino from furina is because furina lowers your hp and pretty slow hydro application. As long as you know what you're doing like dodging for example, they're fine together. i really want Furina's DMG Buff
@@musashi.5868 idk i think a sheilder works a lot better for her and from what i heard the dmg buff isnt as high with arlecchino cuz u dont generate as much fanfare or smt like that i dont have furina but my friend who has her said that
i tested it with arlecchino+ zhongli + kazuha + bennet against Ninniane with 4 gladiator + pyro (81.8, 240%, 2040att) and 4gladiator + att% (84.9, 247, 2308att) and dealt more damage with the pyro goblet :/... (scarlet sands weapon) idk, these were the numbers when normal attacking: att goblet 68508 32972 51547 85000
@@applecider6704 I did the test and I can confidently say that the pyro cup is better, the attack power has less crown with Kazuha, but the pyro cup with Kazuha is larger, it’s a myth that with the cup for the damage power there is more damage with Anemo!
Pyro dmg or atk? Depend what weapon u use if u use 5* with high base atk go for atk set if u use 3* white tessel use pyro dmg bonus because using atk wont give much effect
@@lavi312 He said it right , for example , lvl90 arle with lets say jadespear(674base atk) and 342 base atk from ascension , total 1016 then u use atk% sand and goblet and some sub stats with atk% it will be huge multiplier for her atk almost 2800 something ...
@@KadaEklund the thing is white tassel base atk is very low it is with every 3star , if you dont have a weap , you can use that and with arle base atk at lv90 and white lv90 it gives 743 wheres with lv90 arle and lv90 jade spear gives 1016 base atk , so the atk% multiplier would be huge with this.
Na minha opinião, como sempre usamos elas com bennet em campo para buffar ATK, não vejo necessidade de usar cálice de ATK nela, dano pyro séria mais efetivo
pyro does more damage..elemental dmg bonus goblets will usually always do more damage then atk% goblets on dps chars, it's not that big of an increase but go for it if you'd like.
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00:00 Pyro Damage Bonus
00:41 Attack%
Can u do atk circlet vs crit dmg circlet?
@@seragla3yeb149 crit dmg better
For fact seekers, made a little math calculation.
Pyro/Attack% N1: 112 428 / 105 112
Pyro/Attack% N2: 107 918 / 32 339 with crit (212%>x2.12) + vaporize (x1.5 multiplier) = 102 838
Pyro/Attack% N3: 109 164 / 102 217
Pyro/Attack% N4: 257 817 / 246 306
Pyro/Attack% N5: 86 177 / 80 722
Pyro/Attack% N6: 97 380 / 91 215
Pyro/Attack% N7: 290 581 / 272 587
Pyro/Attack% total DMG output: 1.061.465 / 1.000.997
DPS % Difference: 5,69% diference in favor of Pyro DMG goblet
Not taking N8 and N9 into account, because Pyro DMG goblet killed Raiden at N7.
Also, Pyro DMG build had 6% more Crit DMG than Attack build.
math
The only thing I needed...Thanks bro. Now I can peacefully use my atk one .
My brain ain’t functioning properly to be able to read this
Why did N7 have the biggest damage I'm confused :l .. doesn't the damage go lower with time ?
So per total the difference isnot high,ok thx
It is very difficult to see, please start by displaying the damage results on the screen.
pyro did 290k and attk did 270k with the same strike
you could also look at the health bar as a reference
the damage number is good visisble or not
Not
In short dmg percentage is always better except with furina
If you're using the fragment of harmonic whimsy set and her signature scythe the difference between the atk% and pyro damage% is very little
Im using Pyro Dmg Gob with my Arle Team together with Benny - Kazuha and Zhong. Got her Signature weapon and C1. And she literally could clear the boss in Abyss Floor 12 in less than 40 sec max depending on rotation cuz sometimes you couldn’t avoid the tense and excitement while playing in that floor and that makes you lose some crucial points.
I'm using the same team .
Mannnn this QUEEN FATHER was literally INSAAAAAYYYYYYNEEEE! Haven’t seen any dps unit in the game who does this raw damage output solely based on her atk. And yeah, not really trying hard to find any elemental reaction whatsoever she’s literally crazzzzzyyyyyy LOVE HER!!!
Correct me if i'm wrong but her n6 did 290k 0:15 with PYRO and only 272k 0:55 with ATK. So why is every single comment saying atk is better or equal?
Edit: It obviously depends on team again as always, in a Bennett-less team Atk% would probably be even or slightly above. With a EM sands instead of atk% Sands atk% could be even or better than pyro despite Bennett in the team
the pyro one is better, but not by a huge %, farming a atk goblet will be way easier but the pyro one is still better
people are saying atk is better cause the run was faster, but the arle damage on the pyro goblet is higher if you watch closely
If you didn’t noticed, she finished faster with atk%
Guys, where did she finish faster with atk%, are you all tripping? With Atk% she started a 2nd attack rotation cause she couldn't one rotate it.
With pyro Goblet she needed exactly one N6 attack string
With Atk% she needed N6 + N2
those people (kids) living somewhere else in their dreams, what about me I don't have any problem to get any element goblet with max crit rate or crit dmg because I'm just enjoying the game
It mostly depends on your team and your weapon. If you weapon and teammate already give alot of Atk, then dmg bonus would be better, and vice versa also true.
This is why it is important to learn how to dodge cancel or use your normal attack first before charge attack to activate your BOL cuz a lot of the time your first hit which is the highest dmg of your attack to not vape which is a huge dmg lose
Arlecchino is one of the few character that wouldn't mind losing a few sec in rotation as long as you get the reaction right cuz she has normal ICD which make it difficult to vape consistently and her later attack have lower dmg so you can just switch and start the rotation all over again as soon as you reset your skill CD
edit: General rule is Pyro>atk on team with Bennett while attack is better or equal to pyro on non Bennett team (you can use atk sand and EM goblet too on vape). The difference goes higher the more investment you put on Bennett and your team buff (noblesse, melilith, TTDS alone is already 90% atk buff while Yelan, Kazuha is on average 50-70% dmg buff) but yea the difference isn't so big that you have to pick one over the other if your substat is too far apart
just hit it until dead
Basically for all those ppl... Use pyro goblet IF you have any. it is about 5% difference in damage so if u have an atk% goblet that will complete the 4 pc (gladiator or the signature set) set OR has just way better crit value just use that but if you have an about the same pyro goblet use the pyro one as it will be a better buff (also if you use bennet and no kazuha pyro goblet will be better but if you use kazuha and no bennet atk% will be better but these increases are very miniscule)
so which goblet would you suggest if i use Furina/Kazuha/Benneth
@@musashi.5868 whetever has better substats or activates 4pc bonuses i guess also isnt furina anti synergy with arlecchino? Id prefer yelan or even xingqiu with her in stead of furina
@@DGS_ZERO the only thing that prevents arlecchino from furina is because furina lowers your hp and pretty slow hydro application. As long as you know what you're doing like dodging for example, they're fine together. i really want Furina's DMG Buff
@@musashi.5868 idk i think a sheilder works a lot better for her and from what i heard the dmg buff isnt as high with arlecchino cuz u dont generate as much fanfare or smt like that i dont have furina but my friend who has her said that
@@DGS_ZERO i have furina c1 btw, gives her extra 100 fanfare and when you use her burst, you start up with 100 fanfare
The reason why attack% is similar to pyro goblet is because arlecchino already has pyro goblet built in her passive
thats cool yes
i tested it with arlecchino+ zhongli + kazuha + bennet against Ninniane with 4 gladiator + pyro (81.8, 240%, 2040att) and 4gladiator + att% (84.9, 247, 2308att) and dealt more damage with the pyro goblet :/... (scarlet sands weapon)
idk, these were the numbers when normal attacking:
att goblet
68508
32972
51547
85000
pyro goblet
120799
77363
76399
127572
Scarlett sands will prefer pyro goblet more obviously because the weapon has lower base attack , but it is a different story if she has her r1
Am I dreaming or it's really NO difference between ATK% and Pyro DMG?
No. ATK% clear is faster.
@@RBKGames-BogdanRogatyk
No. With pyro it happens faster.
@@Maga_dinarlecchino’s bis goblet is anemo dmg bonus wym
@@applecider6704 I did the test and I can confidently say that the pyro cup is better, the attack power has less crown with Kazuha, but the pyro cup with Kazuha is larger, it’s a myth that with the cup for the damage power there is more damage with Anemo!
@@Maga_din hmmm nah arlecchino with cryo goblet better
Damn im going to pull for her to make use of my best atk goblets
have fun
Pyro dmg or atk? Depend what weapon u use if u use 5* with high base atk go for atk set if u use 3* white tessel use pyro dmg bonus because using atk wont give much effect
I think u said it the wrong way around , if ur using white tassel use an atk goblet
@@lavi312 He said it right , for example , lvl90 arle with lets say jadespear(674base atk) and 342 base atk from ascension , total 1016 then u use atk% sand and goblet and some sub stats with atk% it will be huge multiplier for her atk almost 2800 something ...
@@ShineiNouzen7 Jade spear already gives you att% with its passive, but white tassel gives you astonishing 48% normal attack damage.
@@KadaEklund the thing is white tassel base atk is very low it is with every 3star , if you dont have a weap , you can use that and with arle base atk at lv90 and white lv90 it gives 743 wheres with lv90 arle and lv90 jade spear gives 1016 base atk , so the atk% multiplier would be huge with this.
Both of them took 16 seconds to defeat the boss
ez
Pyro dmg better than atk℅.
Best thing about arlecchino build no need elemental goblet farming pain 😘
I got tighnari goblet like after 8 month 🍷🗿
that is very unlucky
Question: What is giving your arlecchino extra 325 em outside of instructor's set?
my c2 kazuha and elegy bow on yelan
Is it okay if i go full atk %? I went from 1300 to 1900 atk just doing that
Yea its ok
Na minha opinião, como sempre usamos elas com bennet em campo para buffar ATK, não vejo necessidade de usar cálice de ATK nela, dano pyro séria mais efetivo
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Why did N7 have the biggest damage I'm confused :l .. doesn't the damage go lower with time ?
yes but its has the highect multiplier
@@TKizaru Also because it didn't vape ( to solve the problem use 3 normal attacks beef the charge attack )
If you want to know, with her signature artifacts, atk goblet is much better.. idk about other artifacts, but with FOHW.. atk goblet is 💯 much better.
You're talking about Fragment of Harmonic Whimsy only aren't enough to make Pyro Goblet better than ATK.
I think on her bis artifact atk might be better how bout another vid when u done farming that done👍
yes but who konws when i get a good set ^^
And then there’s me getting horrible artifacts rolls
Why the F atk goblet lose 200 more EM than pyro goblet one, lol 😂
kazuha buff ran out ig
Is there anyone build her with 4pcs Shimenawa? Or is it just me?(I don't have any good Glad Artifact)
That'd pretty bad you won't get her burst she isn't yoimiya😂
good with c2+ if ur doing NA anyways
If you paired her with Bennett, pyro would be better
she is here with bennett wdym
@@TKizaru Bennett increased her attack so she will need more pyro damage. If she doesn't go with Bennett, attack% is better
@@IroVinh but my bennett also c6 so he buffs pyro dmg too
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id use atk goblet if 1. substats are better
2. youre using low base atk weapon
3. you have kazuha or furina
atk% is better the higher your base attack weapon is, since atk scales multiplicatively with damage bonus.
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yes
oh so atk% is better? cool, my goblet is my off piece anyway
pyro does more damage..elemental dmg bonus goblets will usually always do more damage then atk% goblets on dps chars, it's not that big of an increase but go for it if you'd like.
Ok, Attack% is much-much better.