C0 Arlecchino Pyro vs Atk% Goblet Comparison, Which one Better?

this video show comparison, which goblet better for C0 Arlecchino, Pyro goblet vs Atk% goblet
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[@khwezimajoro]

I think removing bennet would have been more interesting because it's kinda the main reason people are considering atk gob, it's so they don't use Benny and circle impact

[@Wuan3127]

go ATK goblet if u use Zhongli because there's no atk buffer. But if u use Bennett then go for Pyro because benny buff ur atk.

[@Ikky-ih3dy]

I used both

[@narcolius]

​@@Ikky-ih3dy your Def Goblet 🍷 is the way to go then.

[@shin01859]

Bro I already have 200 crit DMG 70+ crit rate 2345 attack but I'm struggling with the em so should I go for em goblet?

[@somebody-gj6ue]

​​@@shin01859don't, only go EM on sands and only if you play vaporize

[@jongragi]

@@shin01859 she doesnt need em tho?

[@Ancient_00]

Needed that video, thank you!

[@zeromailss]

It really depend on your artifact, weapon and team. Generally with Bennett you always want Pyro goblet but without Bennett the difference is very close (her BIS artifact and weapon give shit ton of dmg bonus as well making the difference smaller)

[@kcasirh]

Very Nice! I was thinking about it. Ty!

[@castrostrife]

thank you, I was doubtful bc I have a goblet of atk% with 30% of crt dmg sub stat but I wasn't sure at all to use it. Now I do.

[@SaberKingscrown]

Meanwhile me with hp

[@troyfunches9538]

Nice content. Thsnks

[@zinweitv]

Glad you liked it

[@P.X.R.P.L.E]

good comparison but on the furina run the pyro dmg goblet go tmore dmg bonus from furinas burst, at 2:15 you can see it says 16.3 incomming healing bonus which came from furinas burst along side with her dmg bonus buff. But at the atk on at 2:47 you can see it says 14.1 incomming healing bonus which means that run got less of the dmg bonus buff becuase the buff for the healing bonus is lower if that makes sense. Thats why i dont use furina for my showcases unless she gives the full dmg bonus. I know its a smaller factor but i just wanted to point it out :D next time you can use food and itll proc furina burst burst for consistansy

[@zinweitv]

Yes, Im aware of that, mainly bcos I didnt start with exactly same hp for all party on both comparison. But since the diff is minimal, I was lazy to redo the recording 😅

[@P.X.R.P.L.E]

@@zinweitv lmao I understand I’m a perfectionist sometimes so when I can see I can do more madman I will redo it over and over 😂

[@malttz9129]

But you can see 2:12 Furina's burst reached the next level (bottom saloon member full screen), and as you said 2:47 it was 14.1% heal, but if you see closely : 253 THERE IT IS, same next level reach as Furina's E still take the team HP, reaching the next level, probably same 16% as before, hope it helps with your perfectionism, as i am one perfectionist myself.

[@malttz9129]

@@zinweitv well Furina hit 50% fanfare both tries, so it was a good recording, but i know the harsh feeling

[@Rayogami]

Deathmatch diminshes the value of the ATK% goblet so much tho. Numbers would be a little closer (still pyro DMG better) using weapons with more base attack. That's why Calamity Queller had closer numbers.

[@seyconrad9757]

use the samurai npc for damage test. The stat is consistent for the enemy and if you just do solo damage there would be no bias in your test

[@Akash11898]

You mean masanori?

[@tsuyuhane4337]

I agree with this. If anything, it would have been better to do solo and then with team to see how well Arlecchino does alone vs team. Depending on artifacts and such, it would've been a more thorough test. This is more like I can reach certain damage numbers through buffs from team and one interchangeable artifact. Sorry, not trying to be rude or anything, just some criticism.

[@robinsailo5652]

Man your furina buff was not 75% at all its 14 something in healing bonus so half that

[@orfeu_san437]

Então atk é superior?

[@williamalencar9372]

Arlechino, Yelan, Benett e Mona… muito dano ✅

[@stUwUpified]

Depends on the buffs.
Signature + Furina + Yelan + 4pc Whimsy + no Bennett + Kazuha: ATK Gob could be better
Otherwise: Pyro Gob
In general just go Pyro.

[@LN-Kirito223z]

Y’all are misunderstanding something,yea sure pyro will let you do 20K more damage but u have to keep in mind, if u don’t use the atk cup and not planning to use zhongli ur elemental and physical resistance won’t reach 20% even with benny atk buff (from her passive) so if u wanna survive without zhongli then use atk goblet, plus atk goblet get wayyyyy better if you use echoes

[@luisherrera8081]

viejo yo saco un daño mas estable y alto por basico usando sobrecargados y no uso ni xinqui oh kazuha oh benito y solo para que pegues 1 oh2 golpes buenos de 10 donde esta la gracia?

[@ALD7MI2011]

the 2% damage will clear your abyss and gets you 69 stars everywhere you go. even after you C6 her theres nothing left to use your powerful sugar mommy....
very great game

[@avinashshete6783]

I think he should have used mona insted of furina

[@shaderunner7.0]

Furina damage bonus is 75% at C0, 100% at C1 and lasts a lot longer, Mona Burst is only 60%. If you mean should've bring TToDS, that's a different

[@vajra8037]

what is yelan buff?

[@zinweitv]

Dmg% bonus to active char during burst

[@Thick-xia]

Its just my opinion, use atk goblet if you can't reach 3k atk for better resistance specially if you use white tassel cause the damage gap not that high. If you have 3k atk use pyro goblet instead.

[@lindacruz9782]

What the fuck is that arti subs bro how much did you grind

[@zinweitv]

Thousand of resins, cant count anymore 🤣

[@ferless_6495]

Bro is furina kazuha benny team good for abyss

[@zinweitv]

Yes, they are good

[@zamaneditor123s]

Pyro damage is best 90k damage ❤❤❤

[@omayjohnleviea.8487]

the fact that my c2 arcelino without support buff, already made 112k damage TvT 6-6-6 talent

[@redstone_convoy]

Anyone got any f2p team comps for arlechino

[@zinweitv]

you can try Arle Bennett XQ Sucrose for vape, Arle Bennett Diona Sucrose/Rosaria/Kaeya for Melt

[@unnecessaryusername784]

Arlecc-fischl-chevreuse-bennet. Overload team

[@eduardowormittag2113]

C2+ Owners, go for ATK - the more you have, better.

[@Levac-th6hl]

Тем временем калькуляторы,которые просто существуют:Да,очень полезный видос чудила,странно что нет роликов про то какие дейлики лучше выполнять,тоже ведь крайне полезно будет.

[@buho0132]

I think, atk% is better with new set

[@ajubal_senpai]

So weird I’m having better numbers and time with Atk goblet. Maybe it’s because of her weapon I don’t know…

[@KR_3301]

which weapon

[@ajubal_senpai]

@@KR_3301 her sig weapon

[@KR_3301]

@@ajubal_senpai which team r u running arle in

[@H_E_X_]

What if I use C6 Bennett with her 💀😂

[@zinweitv]

My bennett is also C6, thats why additional 15% pyro dmg bonus already included for the entire comparison

[@alexfui8902]

If sands em and goblet attack can ?

[@zinweitv]

Can, works for vape or melt team

[@ViniciusFigueiredo19]

Tldr: Use the optimizer

[@deybez5698]

which site man ?

[@avery7939]

So both do great damage, just use the one you got

[@d-godfather]

In a vape team. Sucrose with TTDS will be better than kazuha

[@damianostefani3383]

Still arguing about this bs? The best is +200% crit dmg and+70% crit rate.
All the rest doesn't matter

[@2wst11]

This comparison is kinda ekk. You used different teams and we didn't really understood which goblet is better. You only showcased which team is better. Go play the cups solo without team mates and show us which goblet is better.

[@zinweitv]

Every team have pyro and atk goblet version as comparison, so Im not really follow what you meant?

[@user-hd3cv9vi3q]

what's the meaning of solo dmg when you want to optimize her dmg? Except you actually bring her to the abyss for solo clear. :^) the only way to find out which one is better is calculating which stat you need more.

[@kukitali]

also in some runs he started with more bol so obviously more damage too

[@2wst11]

@@user-hd3cv9vi3q understanding the solo damage gives the best impression on how the goblet works compared to other stats. Both pyro damage and attck% is linear scaling damage that does not need reaction to quantify the value it provides.

[@user-hd3cv9vi3q]

@@2wst11 all stats have saturation, your team gonna buff you tons of stats so you need to know which stat you need more to optimize it :L Do you know about saturation? If not i can explain it to you. :>