Are you guys following the Belgian football scandal? It's shaking the Belgian Football League (Jupiler ProLeague). Case is still pending. It's about money laundering, matchfixing and player representatives. The case is called: 'Propere handen'. Wich translates into : clean hands. Well worth to take a look at it.
I went to the European championship in 2016 and in Dublin airport I witnessed lots of NI fans also streaming through without incident. Glad to say that a lot of the hate between us has died down. There is a lot more peace on the Island in general these days.
KOOGH Why do you keep saying England??? Are you that stupid that you think England and Britain are the same thing?????? And if The Irish Republic cared about Northern Ireland they wouldn’t have aloud Germany to bomb it in the 2nd world war, If the thr Republic cared about the north, why didn’t they help defend it???
Let's not forget to mention how David Meyler and Shane Duffy (Ireland) and Johnny Evans and Steven Davies (NI) both came together to visit the Children's Hospital in Dublin yesterday. They made the childrens day, most importantly. But it also shows how progressive things are going between our country and NI. The game will probably be boring, but that's not what matters, we must respect one another and set aside our differences. Come on you boys in green. ☘
James Madigan i have no problem with people from NI or supporting NI. I just hate the fact they sing God Save The Queen, Scotland and Wales have their own national anthems. Why not NI? No wonder people like McClean and Duffy decide to play for ROI. I think it creates quite a hostile environment for young NI catholics/nationalists who just want to play football but feel they cannot play for the country they were born in as their views arent considered
Imagine what we could do together like the rugby team! I’m from Down n.ireland but I support the republic coz I’m catholic and consider my self Irish.We would do half decent in all comps just like rugby!
However, the big complexity in that is that, under FIFA regulations, in the event of a political or sporting reunification of the Irish national team into one entity, the official governing body would be the IFA and the FAI would either have to merge, disband or gain official approval from the IFA to replace it as the governing body. The first option is likely but hard to see the FAI being happy to be seen as the body being absorbed by the IFA. The second wouldn't happen without a lengthy legal battle that would be difficult for the FAI to win and the third. Well again, the IFA wouldn't just step aside.
Football fans are much more 'hooligan' like than rugby fans and likely to cause injury but in rugby we dont see that and people are more civil. I couldnt imagine any unionist supporting it at all and obviously all political elements would need to be removed like the rugby games.
@@TheGiantKillers How would the official governing body HAVE to be the IFA? The FAI have the stronger National team and the FAI have the stronger domestic team as was proving less then 12 months ago when Dundalk of the FAI smashed Linfield of the IFA 6-0 in the Union Cup. Also there is 26 counties in the FAI league as opposed to the 6 in the IFA .... Generally speaking I agree, it's not going to happen unless the NI teams disband their league and play in the FAI as no team in the FAI would even contemplate, nor their supporters of clubs, - playing in a 'fantasy' league in the IFA and having it registered there. Kieran Lucid and is Consumer Gangsters can keep backing up the wrong tree with that idea. If Cliftonville and other teams that see themselves as Irish in the North do what Derry City did then an All Ireland league and National team would be possible as the league in the IFA would turn to complete shite with no competition and basically a couple of 7 team leagues in the IFA - then the dream would become a reality but until then, it'll be the same old story.....
@@ceannasai5731 It's got nothing to do with on-field activity. It's to do with recognised rights to govern. Prior to 1950 both Associations were allowed to organise island-wide national teams. However, in 1950, when both entered the World cup, both wanted to enter as Ireland. FIFA wouldn't allow this and the two national associations signed up to an agreement that 1: The teams would be officially named Northern Ireland and the Republic of Ireland. 2: Both sides would respect the boundaries of the other and not select players from the other jurisdiction. {Ironically at the time this was on the insistence of the FAI as they feared players south for the border would declare for Northern Ireland in order to play in the home Internationals.} 3: that the permanent rights to form any future all Ireland team remained with the IFA. This was agreed by the FAI. In 1997 point three was re-affirmed by FIFA when point 2 was abolished, and again the FAI agreed that, in the event of any future all Ireland team, the two boards would merge under the governance of the IFA and that the all Ireland team would be a successor to the Northern Ireland team. Much as the Germany team are a successor of the West Germany team. It's not about whose bigger, it's about who has been given the rights agreed by FIFA.
Great to see an informative video on this. As someone who comes from Northern Ireland, this type of video explaining the history of football across the island of Ireland is a real treat. Safe game tomorrow lads
Something to point out was that, in the 50s, both federations overlapped their cappings, so that a player was called up by both. FIFA had to interfere and state that players could only choose one federation to play for.
@@benjaminmarkroberts Yes, it was informative and even handed, Well done. I didn't know about the Shelbourne thing. (PS, let the narrator know Glenavon is pronounced locally with the 'a' sound similar to apple, rather than apricot 😆)
Can we highlight the hilarity of trying to explain that Northern Ireland, in the UK managed by Michael O'Neill and run by the Irish football association is totally separate from the ROI managed by Martin O'Neill and run by the Football association of Ireland.
The Israel and Palestine conflict among many because of the Balfour Declaration by Britain which was only accelerated as a sign of sympathy because of the Holocaust... hopefully both Irish nations will unite and accept their differences.
Great video, showing your usual depth and class. On a positive note, after the '93 game it was reported that the N. Ireland captain Alan McDonald came into the Republic's dressing room and told them to go the USA and represent the whole Island. McDonald was from a Protestant/Unionist background but it shows that at least among players sport is bigger than sectarian politics. You can see the same positivity nowadays when both teams are away, there was a great camaraderie at the euros in 2016. I think a lot of people, myself included, hope that one day we'll have an all-island team, same as in Rugby, but either way it's great to see how far things have come.
no mate , football is a different kettle of fish and i for one enjoy watchin Norn Iron win loose or draw rather than see 2 from the north in an all ireland team GAWA
My personal memory of that night was the elation over McGlaughlin's equaliser, and celebrating wildly with my friends. I was 11 and had no idea about the political subtext and hostility in the ground. I didn't grasp the infamy until years later. Niall Quinn has some chilling stories about the build up to the game.
Geographically I absolutely love my country. But there is so much which I really hate about Northern Ireland. Bloody hell we haven't had a government in years because we are that petty
Really informative video! As a child growing up, I always wanted to know why there was a match with two "Irelands"... I got my answer today. Great video Tifo!
To be fair, the relationship is much improved now. Northern Ireland have done a brilliant job ridding their game of sectarianism. Similarly, I think Republic of Ireland fans are a lot more respectful of the fact that there are people on this Island who regard themselves as British and wish to be part of The United Kingdom. An enormous amount of growing up has taken place in the past 25 years.
great video although your pronunciation of Glenavon could do with some work, we would call it Glen-av-on (av like have without the H), but as I said very informative, I personally didn't know that was the reason there was so much tension.
Don’t know how you didn’t mention Dundalk vs Linfield in European qualifiers in 1979. It got so bad in oriel park in the 1st leg that the 2nd leg was played in Holland. You could make a video about just this match.
Nice to see our wee Northern Ireland represented! While we can have quite abhorrent behavior(from both the catholic side and the protestant side) once we settle down we have some of the best fans in the world :) Just look at us singing Sweet Caroline in the 216 Euros
I am a Liverpool Englishman, I have No Doubt that there will be an All Ireland football team in the near future, just like The Irish Rugby Team ... that day will come!.
I'm from Belfast so I think I should add some insight in this. Roughly half of the population of northern Ireland do not support the NI national football team, and instead support the Republic of Ireland national football team. This is because many Irish-Catholics dislike the creation of Northern Ireland at all, as it is a gerrymandered state designed to give an ulster loyalist voting majority. Many Irish-Catholics caught within the new Northern Ireland state endured extreme discrimination at the hands of the ulster protestants (that controlled all aspects of political and economic power). Many professional Irish footballers from within NI that were good enough to play for the republic, did so. As the Irish-catholic communities look upon the Rep Ireland national team as representatives of the Irish people, and see the Northern Ireland team as the team that represents the ulster protestant colonists. Time's have changed though, and the NI national team has under went a heavy re-branding campaign to try and purge away the bitter taste of bigotry and discrimination that has surrounded it for almost 100 years. This fixture will be interesting to say the least. Brexit may have tensions inflated slightly but I believe this match will pass quietly.
"2018's fixture is likely to be an exciting affair" A scoreless draw! Let me know when Ireland can string more than 2 passes together in the opponent's half of the pitch and then I might start watching them again.
I'm a Belfast native and I never felt any affinity for the six county team. While the six county team has always had a small number of Catholic players its fan base has always been100 percent loyalist and Protestant. The national team, however, has a fan base that is completely non sectarian, and it draws players from all over Ireland and the UK. The Irish team has supporters all the world. This is in stark contrast to the six county team who's supporters come mainly from working class loyalist areas in eastern Ulster are basically unknown outside of Europe.
@Jack the Film Fanatic You have to go back in time for that to be true though. ROI is not a sectarian team at all. It's far more inclusive than NI will ever be considering it has still links to loyalist and pro sectarian fans. You just don't get that in Ireland at all. Whatsoever. Right now Ireland has a massive worldwide fanbase of all different types of people, while NI fans still want a sectarian team for a sectarian state. Sad reality. No need for a time machine.
100% Loyalist and Protestant fanbase? Away on! Never the case and especially not so now. I know your comment was 4 years ago and you would be correct in saying the fanbase is predominantly Loyalist and Protestant but certainly not exclusively. Strides have been taking to stamp out sectarianism for some time now and the GAWA have cultivated a reputation on their travels for being friendly, well behaved and fun loving. They also got on famously with the Republic fans in France 2016. Also in Northern Ireland, increasing numbers are identifying as 'Other' rather than Unionist or Nationalist and many of them would be NI fans. Even more primarily designate their nationality as Northern Irish rather than British or Irish and this includes a significant chunk of the Catholic population. Out of those Catholic 'Northern Irish', they would be much more inclined to back Norn Irn than the Republic but probably wanting to see both do well like myself. More still can be done to lay aside the sectarianism of the past and coming up with their own anthem rather than clinging to GSTQ or GSTK now would be a momentous step. It was also a mistake renovating Windsor Park as opposed to building a brand new national stadium for multi-sport use and considering who own Windsor Park, their associations and where the ground is located. Anyhow, your assertions are way off the mark and it is not a small number of Catholic players either who have represented NI down through the years. The legendary team who beat hosts Spain in the 82 World Cup was virtually 50-50 and it was a Catholic from West Belfast who scored the winner in that memorable night. Also, their most successful manager of recent years is a Catholic and nor is he the first to manage the team.
The 1978 and 1979 fixtures were European Championship qualifiers not World Cup qualifiers. They was no World Cup in 1980. Both teams were in England's qualification Group 1 along with Bulgaria and Denmark.
JINX! An exciting affair!!! It was awful and too much booing from the Irish fans! We never did that before, even against the English. We've have lost it now and can never hold the high ground again. I thought we had grown up! And as for the Northern Ireland fans....well done McClean you ignored them. The Irish football was awful and a large part of both sets of fans were awful. A night to forget........and yeah I fully understand why the knuckle draggers among us felt to the need to boo and be pathetic, but the rest of us grown ups looked on feeling let down. We still have a long way to go! Brilliant video by the way and very well made!
What do you mean the then named Windsor Park last time I checked it’s still Windsor Park or have they moved to a new Windsor Park that both the NI team and Linfield play in
My da is from Westmeath but he and his friends snuck into the 1993 game but one of my da’s friends was drunk and sang ooh ah up the rah! He still has a scar on his arm
The Irish rugby team play as one team and are ranked 2nd in the world. The football team should be the same and would be a lot stronger playing as one, nowhere near 2nd in the world but a lot stronger
ROI were 5th in the world at one stage. There's 7 million people on the island and countries with that amount have won world cups so yes it would stand a considerable chance if it consolidated but loyalists in NI would rather die on a hill than do that because they think it would lead to a United Ireland which is daft but that's how they think!
There are many sports bodies which remained All-Ireland after the country itself was partitioned, in fact soccer is the exception. The GAA (Gaelic Athletic Association) and rugby union (IRFU) are probably the two most prominent examples of sports organisations which still govern the sport across the whole island, but it's the same for boxing (Irish Athletic Boxing Association ), field hockey (Hockey Ireland), Tennis (Tennis Ireland ) etc. They were founded pre-partition, and simply never stopped. I suppose because they never had accusations of favouritism/neglect the same way that the IFA had.
I work in a pub in Northern Ireland and there is a story that goes round that there was a player in the 50s maybe 60s played a game for the republic and then was driven up to Belfast to play for Northern Ireland or maybe the other way around? Has anyone else heard this or is it just a load of bollocks?
It was a good number of players. Both FAs claimed they were Ireland so players were confused. Johnny Carey played in Belfast and lost 3 nil to England then traveled to Goodison Park a few days later where the FAI's Ireland beat England.
Many of us want one national island team like rugby cricket ect but sadly soccer or football has a different type of following and the unionists hard hateful attitude approach will never allow us to play together like George Best wished.
Brilliant. Your coverage of NI football really helps explain how deep rooted the division was/is in the society and how the stain of sectarianism dictated every part of life for ordinary people on both sides, in every part of life. Hopefully it helps explain just what the peace process was/Is up against. Two things, 1. bear in mind Irish Catholics following soccer were already up aggainst huge pressure from the Catholic Church, irish political system & GAA (indigenous Irish sport asciation) for playing garrision games & then they had to face external sectarianism. Really caught in the middle just to pursue the love of the game. 2. The fact that virtually all NI Catholic players opt to play for the Republic, it aids in the fact that the NI team is not the cross community unifyer it could be, such as the All-Ireland rugby team.
Eh? Point 1 is completely incorrect. Soccer is traditionally the more popular sport in the city of Derry because the Catholic Church encouraged young men to play it (for fear that playing gaelic games would encourage them towards republicanism). The likes of Derry City and Cliftonville did come under pressure alright (forcing Derry City out of the Irish League in the 1970s) but it was from outside of their community.
horsepat there was a referendum, 98% of the people who voted chose to stay, so yes they did, and yeah they should reunite, but only if Northern Ireland wants to.
@@pphyjynx8217 Northern Ireland Good Friday Agreement referendum, 1998 ..i think thats what your thinking of but there never been no vote on the reunification of Ireland
The Northern Ireland border poll was a referendum held in Northern Ireland on 8 March 1973 on whether Northern Ireland should remain part of the United Kingdom or join with the Republic of Ireland to form a united Ireland. It was the first time that a major referendum had been held in any region of the United Kingdom
And it was a very VERY boring affair.....neither team will ever win anything, but look at our rugby team, could Dublin and Belfast come together again under like, an AFI (Association Football Ireland) or some shit like that so everyone is happy and have some god awful song like 'Ireland's Call' instead of Ireland national anthem or NI's song. Then, we might be able to beat teams like Georgia and Norway on a regular basis and maybe even play good football. They're basically the same thing, Michael O'Neill managed Dundalk FC, Martin O'Neill has 60 odd caps for NI, nearly the same ranking, same colours....unreal
@@redvodka5256 Look at history. History says that the English settled the protestants in the northern part of Ireland. Also do you remember Jallianwala bagh massacre. When will your queen apologise for the horrific massacre.
It really bugs the brains out of me when people say ireland v northern ireland as though we're a differnt country we didnt ask for the country to be partitioned . One other thing the team that calls themselves ireland should recall in the 1990 world cup the republic team not ireland had players like mick mc carthy kevin sheedy ray houghton john aldridge playing . What part of ireland are they from
I appreciate the videos you guys have done on Ireland and Northern Ireland. But I feel, considering how many you've done on the subject so far, that you really shouldn't be making the mistakes that you made in this video. Glenavon is pronounced glen ahvon not glenayvon. Omagh is pronounced ohmuh not ohh ma. Ulster is not a synonym for Northern Ireland. There are 3 counties in Ulster that are not a part of Northern Ireland (Cavan, Donegal and Monaghan). Willfully conflating the two terms is pretty offensive.
Hi Oriel - thanks for feedback. I wrote this one and although I can't speak to everything you say, on the Ulster point, this was a specific reference to the Ulster FA as a distinct entity within the original IFA - not to Northern Ireland or Ulster's 9 counties - hope this clears that up.
Interesting especially as Irish football has both Teams run by the same rugby football federation I think as what runs the joint Irish country rugby team. So Irish rugby despite their huge fan and religious political divisions as recently shown on a BT Sport TV documentary, were able to play as one United team though using both national anthems but yet football they can't ? 😉
I wish the middleground is reached and our Island nation can be a single independent Nation as it was before August 1800.l rhe middleground needs to be reached and accepted.
Money, south Americans either go to Europe or to Mexico because the salaries are better. Just some teams can maintain those high salaries (Boca,River, etc...)
Are you guys following the Belgian football scandal? It's shaking the Belgian Football League (Jupiler ProLeague). Case is still pending. It's about money laundering, matchfixing and player representatives. The case is called: 'Propere handen'. Wich translates into : clean hands.
Well worth to take a look at it.
They could also take a look at the shit show portuguese football has become over the last year or two.
@@filipe2444 what happened to Portuguese football? Sorry but it haven't been paying much attention to it in the last year
@@filipe2444 Hasn't it always been horribly imbalanced?Or is the Belenenses split symptomatic of it getting worse?
I went to the European championship in 2016 and in Dublin airport I witnessed lots of NI fans also streaming through without incident. Glad to say that a lot of the hate between us has died down. There is a lot more peace on the Island in general these days.
kelzuya a united Ireland's will happen in our lifetime
@@callummcgregorenthusiast5545 less than 50 years
@@caolanferryify a very much doubt that, the British are too stuborn
Kieran Tierney Enthusiast
It Will never happen.
No chance.
A united ireland is never going to happen,
It’s a dangerous Catholic fantasy.
KOOGH
Why do you keep saying England???
Are you that stupid that you think England and Britain are the same thing??????
And if The Irish Republic cared about Northern Ireland they wouldn’t have aloud Germany to bomb it in the 2nd world war,
If the thr Republic cared about the north, why didn’t they help defend it???
Let's not forget to mention how David Meyler and Shane Duffy (Ireland) and Johnny Evans and Steven Davies (NI) both came together to visit the Children's Hospital in Dublin yesterday. They made the childrens day, most importantly. But it also shows how progressive things are going between our country and NI. The game will probably be boring, but that's not what matters, we must respect one another and set aside our differences. Come on you boys in green. ☘
James Madigan great to see our nations getting on so well James 👍🏻
@@alibee1978 👍 I met with some NI supporters before the match and they were great lads, great craic. Always welcome down again 💚
James Madigan wish I made it even with the scoreline . Same to you James 🍺
James Madigan i have no problem with people from NI or supporting NI. I just hate the fact they sing God Save The Queen, Scotland and Wales have their own national anthems. Why not NI? No wonder people like McClean and Duffy decide to play for ROI. I think it creates quite a hostile environment for young NI catholics/nationalists who just want to play football but feel they cannot play for the country they were born in as their views arent considered
I hate how its english ppl always shit stiring on social media starting these arguments about it it pisses me off sometimes
I LIKE TIFO. It's informative and stuff.
Imagine what we could do together like the rugby team! I’m from Down n.ireland but I support the republic coz I’m catholic and consider my self Irish.We would do half decent in all comps just like rugby!
However, the big complexity in that is that, under FIFA regulations, in the event of a political or sporting reunification of the Irish national team into one entity, the official governing body would be the IFA and the FAI would either have to merge, disband or gain official approval from the IFA to replace it as the governing body. The first option is likely but hard to see the FAI being happy to be seen as the body being absorbed by the IFA. The second wouldn't happen without a lengthy legal battle that would be difficult for the FAI to win and the third. Well again, the IFA wouldn't just step aside.
Football fans are much more 'hooligan' like than rugby fans and likely to cause injury but in rugby we dont see that and people are more civil.
I couldnt imagine any unionist supporting it at all and obviously all political elements would need to be removed like the rugby games.
@@TheGiantKillers How would the official governing body HAVE to be the IFA? The FAI have the stronger National team and the FAI have the stronger domestic team as was proving less then 12 months ago when Dundalk of the FAI smashed Linfield of the IFA 6-0 in the Union Cup. Also there is 26 counties in the FAI league as opposed to the 6 in the IFA ....
Generally speaking I agree, it's not going to happen unless the NI teams disband their league and play in the FAI as no team in the FAI would even contemplate, nor their supporters of clubs, - playing in a 'fantasy' league in the IFA and having it registered there. Kieran Lucid and is Consumer Gangsters can keep backing up the wrong tree with that idea.
If Cliftonville and other teams that see themselves as Irish in the North do what Derry City did then an All Ireland league and National team would be possible as the league in the IFA would turn to complete shite with no competition and basically a couple of 7 team leagues in the IFA - then the dream would become a reality but until then, it'll be the same old story.....
@@ceannasai5731 It's got nothing to do with on-field activity. It's to do with recognised rights to govern. Prior to 1950 both Associations were allowed to organise island-wide national teams. However, in 1950, when both entered the World cup, both wanted to enter as Ireland. FIFA wouldn't allow this and the two national associations signed up to an agreement that 1: The teams would be officially named Northern Ireland and the Republic of Ireland. 2: Both sides would respect the boundaries of the other and not select players from the other jurisdiction. {Ironically at the time this was on the insistence of the FAI as they feared players south for the border would declare for Northern Ireland in order to play in the home Internationals.} 3: that the permanent rights to form any future all Ireland team remained with the IFA. This was agreed by the FAI. In 1997 point three was re-affirmed by FIFA when point 2 was abolished, and again the FAI agreed that, in the event of any future all Ireland team, the two boards would merge under the governance of the IFA and that the all Ireland team would be a successor to the Northern Ireland team. Much as the Germany team are a successor of the West Germany team. It's not about whose bigger, it's about who has been given the rights agreed by FIFA.
I'd rather have a united kingdom team
Great to see an informative video on this. As someone who comes from Northern Ireland, this type of video explaining the history of football across the island of Ireland is a real treat. Safe game tomorrow lads
Something to point out was that, in the 50s, both federations overlapped their cappings, so that a player was called up by both. FIFA had to interfere and state that players could only choose one federation to play for.
I’m from northern Ireland and this has been explained so well, hope people understand this a lot better now
Thank you! (I wrote the script)
@@benjaminmarkroberts Yes, it was informative and even handed, Well done. I didn't know about the Shelbourne thing. (PS, let the narrator know Glenavon is pronounced locally with the 'a' sound similar to apple, rather than apricot 😆)
@@JMcAnespy I'll set my granny on that task 😆
I'm fom the south and we should have a united team.
irishnewblood a united team would be great but I doubt both sides could agree on a name, stadium etc.
Can we highlight the hilarity of trying to explain that Northern Ireland, in the UK managed by Michael O'Neill and run by the Irish football association is totally separate from the ROI managed by Martin O'Neill and run by the Football association of Ireland.
....and Martin O'Neill played for the North!
Fuck off! we are the Peoples Front of Judea ;)
@@owainrhysphillips4102 you fuck off
People's Front of Judea, Judean People's Front.
Brits historically have caused split between lot of cultures, haven't they?
Yup. They mess up every community
Basically any major conflict in the world...brits were behind it.........
The Israel and Palestine conflict among many because of the Balfour Declaration by Britain which was only accelerated as a sign of sympathy because of the Holocaust... hopefully both Irish nations will unite and accept their differences.
My country India was divided into 2 parts in 1947 by British and we are still feeling the after effects of it 70 years later.
@@manutdindian yes :/
Really love the in-depth history lessons while learning about football.
Great video, showing your usual depth and class. On a positive note, after the '93 game it was reported that the N. Ireland captain Alan McDonald came into the Republic's dressing room and told them to go the USA and represent the whole Island. McDonald was from a Protestant/Unionist background but it shows that at least among players sport is bigger than sectarian politics. You can see the same positivity nowadays when both teams are away, there was a great camaraderie at the euros in 2016. I think a lot of people, myself included, hope that one day we'll have an all-island team, same as in Rugby, but either way it's great to see how far things have come.
RIP Alan McDonald.
no mate , football is a different kettle of fish and i for one enjoy watchin Norn Iron win loose or draw rather than see 2 from the north in an all ireland team GAWA
Tifo is gold. I've learnt a lot on this channel
My personal memory of that night was the elation over McGlaughlin's equaliser, and celebrating wildly with my friends. I was 11 and had no idea about the political subtext and hostility in the ground. I didn't grasp the infamy until years later. Niall Quinn has some chilling stories about the build up to the game.
nice little drawing of the big jim statue in dublin
Do a video on the history of Serbia vs Albania
TBF they should've done it when it was announced that Xherdan Shaqiri wasn't gonna be in the Red Star game.
Geographically I absolutely love my country. But there is so much which I really hate about Northern Ireland. Bloody hell we haven't had a government in years because we are that petty
It seems Dublin has a government wouldn't it be great
Really informative video! As a child growing up, I always wanted to know why there was a match with two "Irelands"... I got my answer today. Great video Tifo!
chris singh oh no you haven’t even got a percent of your answer.
chris singh ireland has a very sad and complicated history
chris singh also about half of the people living in northern ireland dont support the northern ireland national team and instead support the republic
Video on DUNCAN EDWARDS please.
To be fair, the relationship is much improved now. Northern Ireland have done a brilliant job ridding their game of sectarianism. Similarly, I think Republic of Ireland fans are a lot more respectful of the fact that there are people on this Island who regard themselves as British and wish to be part of The United Kingdom. An enormous amount of growing up has taken place in the past 25 years.
Excellent short summary
Bingham acted like a knacker during the game in 93
great video although your pronunciation of Glenavon could do with some work, we would call it Glen-av-on (av like have without the H), but as I said very informative, I personally didn't know that was the reason there was so much tension.
Don’t know how you didn’t mention Dundalk vs Linfield in European qualifiers in 1979. It got so bad in oriel park in the 1st leg that the 2nd leg was played in Holland. You could make a video about just this match.
Or how Shelbourne and Rangers European qualifier was moved to Liverpool.
Nicely put mate 👌
Nice to see our wee Northern Ireland represented! While we can have quite abhorrent behavior(from both the catholic side and the protestant side) once we settle down we have some of the best fans in the world :) Just look at us singing Sweet Caroline in the 216 Euros
Both sets of fans let themselves down badly at tonight's match. Pathetic knuckle draggers!
@@malahammer Didn't get to watch the match fs but i can imagine what it was like
*north of Ireland
Great video as well
Whether Ireland is ever unified or not is not the issue to me.,a united Ireland team would be so much better
I have always wanted a unified Irish team. It would be so much better for qualifying for Euros and WC
Same goes for a united kingdom football team though and it would be alot more better then an ireland one
@@matthewlaverty202 yeah, they’d be loaded. I wish UK would enter a team each Olympics like they did when they had a team as hosts in London
@@kyleorndorff1304 I'd love a british isles team in fairness though
This is why I love rugby,we come together as one and play for the island
26+6=1
26 + X =32
X=32-26
X=SCUM
I am a Liverpool Englishman, I have No Doubt that there will be an All Ireland football team in the near future, just like The Irish Rugby Team ... that day will come!.
Not the Tifo video we wanted, but the one we needed
It's still called Windsor Park
@@joseparcenary4706 yeah you're right or more likely some car brand considering all the car shops around the stadium
I'm from Belfast so I think I should add some insight in this.
Roughly half of the population of northern Ireland do not support the NI national football team, and instead support the Republic of Ireland national football team. This is because many Irish-Catholics dislike the creation of Northern Ireland at all, as it is a gerrymandered state designed to give an ulster loyalist voting majority.
Many Irish-Catholics caught within the new Northern Ireland state endured extreme discrimination at the hands of the ulster protestants (that controlled all aspects of political and economic power).
Many professional Irish footballers from within NI that were good enough to play for the republic, did so. As the Irish-catholic communities look upon the Rep Ireland national team as representatives of the Irish people, and see the Northern Ireland team as the team that represents the ulster protestant colonists.
Time's have changed though, and the NI national team has under went a heavy re-branding campaign to try and purge away the bitter taste of bigotry and discrimination that has surrounded it for almost 100 years.
This fixture will be interesting to say the least. Brexit may have tensions inflated slightly but I believe this match will pass quietly.
By the looks of things not much has changed. Still singing anti Irish songs, plenty of union jacks, raf flags.
great stuff lads
"2018's fixture is likely to be an exciting affair" A scoreless draw! Let me know when Ireland can string more than 2 passes together in the opponent's half of the pitch and then I might start watching them again.
I'm a Belfast native and I never felt any affinity for the six county team. While the six county team has always had a small number of Catholic players its fan base has always been100 percent loyalist and Protestant. The national team, however, has a fan base that is completely non sectarian, and it draws players from all over Ireland and the UK. The Irish team has supporters all the world. This is in stark contrast to the six county team who's supporters come mainly from working class loyalist areas in eastern Ulster are basically unknown outside of Europe.
@Jack the Film Fanatic You have to go back in time for that to be true though. ROI is not a sectarian team at all. It's far more inclusive than NI will ever be considering it has still links to loyalist and pro sectarian fans. You just don't get that in Ireland at all. Whatsoever. Right now Ireland has a massive worldwide fanbase of all different types of people, while NI fans still want a sectarian team for a sectarian state. Sad reality. No need for a time machine.
100% Loyalist and Protestant fanbase? Away on! Never the case and especially not so now. I know your comment was 4 years ago and you would be correct in saying the fanbase is predominantly Loyalist and Protestant but certainly not exclusively. Strides have been taking to stamp out sectarianism for some time now and the GAWA have cultivated a reputation on their travels for being friendly, well behaved and fun loving. They also got on famously with the Republic fans in France 2016. Also in Northern Ireland, increasing numbers are identifying as 'Other' rather than Unionist or Nationalist and many of them would be NI fans. Even more primarily designate their nationality as Northern Irish rather than British or Irish and this includes a significant chunk of the Catholic population. Out of those Catholic 'Northern Irish', they would be much more inclined to back Norn Irn than the Republic but probably wanting to see both do well like myself. More still can be done to lay aside the sectarianism of the past and coming up with their own anthem rather than clinging to GSTQ or GSTK now would be a momentous step. It was also a mistake renovating Windsor Park as opposed to building a brand new national stadium for multi-sport use and considering who own Windsor Park, their associations and where the ground is located. Anyhow, your assertions are way off the mark and it is not a small number of Catholic players either who have represented NI down through the years. The legendary team who beat hosts Spain in the 82 World Cup was virtually 50-50 and it was a Catholic from West Belfast who scored the winner in that memorable night. Also, their most successful manager of recent years is a Catholic and nor is he the first to manage the team.
UNITED IRELAND
Kieran Tierney Enthusiast
There will never be a united ireland.
@@theogeingob9741 wouldn say so
@Anglo Commando imperialist filth.
@Anglo Commando bitch ass prod
@Anglo Commando Traitor? Fuck me mate u betrayed the republic that or else ur immigrants planted here by the brits
Great channel
"Is likely to be an exciting affair" Ha. Watched any of Ireland's recent matches? :D
(I get what you meant though)
must be very confusing for some foreigners , especially as both managers named M.O'neill , all very Irish
topical i like it, only going to get worse (or return to the dark days) after brexit
They keep us separated because together we would unstoppable
Could Tifo soon do tactics about Raneri at Fulham you know when he really takes over(manage a game)
Good to know that, I didn't know this story.
Sees two TIFO videos in one day. 😍
Alex Stewart, not Joe Devine narrating the second video 😞
The 2011 fixture was part of the Carling Nations Cup, wasn't it?
Yes
Good luck for Euro 2020
From Turkey..
The 1978 and 1979 fixtures were European Championship qualifiers not World Cup qualifiers. They was no World Cup in 1980. Both teams were in England's qualification Group 1 along with Bulgaria and Denmark.
I'm from the Republic of Ireland so thanks for this video 🇮🇪
mon the north
@@loyalson7744 ewww
one island one nation
This should be a highly rated international derby
Salih Alash Not unless youve watched them play.
JINX! An exciting affair!!! It was awful and too much booing from the Irish fans! We never did that before, even against the English. We've have lost it now and can never hold the high ground again. I thought we had grown up! And as for the Northern Ireland fans....well done McClean you ignored them. The Irish football was awful and a large part of both sets of fans were awful. A night to forget........and yeah I fully understand why the knuckle draggers among us felt to the need to boo and be pathetic, but the rest of us grown ups looked on feeling let down. We still have a long way to go!
Brilliant video by the way and very well made!
please do one on brazil and argentina... the biggest neighborhood rivalry in the world
its not though. the germans and dutch despise it each other. that game is pure hatetred.
Can u make a video on Real Madrid with Santiago Solari as the new coach and the new tactics
What do you mean the then named Windsor Park last time I checked it’s still Windsor Park or have they moved to a new Windsor Park that both the NI team and Linfield play in
My da is from Westmeath but he and his friends snuck into the 1993 game but one of my da’s friends was drunk and sang ooh ah up the rah! He still has a scar on his arm
Only one Ireland 🇮🇪
Ireland unfree shall never be at peace the divide and conquer tactics of the British empire has caused hatred between Irishmen
The Irish rugby team play as one team and are ranked 2nd in the world. The football team should be the same and would be a lot stronger playing as one, nowhere near 2nd in the world but a lot stronger
ROI were 5th in the world at one stage. There's 7 million people on the island and countries with that amount have won world cups so yes it would stand a considerable chance if it consolidated but loyalists in NI would rather die on a hill than do that because they think it would lead to a United Ireland which is daft but that's how they think!
Man, this video makes me so sad that my country is divided. And when it ruins the sport as well, that's just heartbreaking.
Ur own people on the same land against each other is a whole other level of hate
first meetings were not world cup qualifiers it was in the 1980 european championship qualifiers
not mentioning 1916 is the video is a crime. one of the most important events leading to the war of independence
the last sentence of this video is so ironic
I always wondered why the rugby team is one but, the football team is split
Football is a working class sport whereas rugby isn't.
@@lunarskyye2680 Well that makes zero sense.
There are many sports bodies which remained All-Ireland after the country itself was partitioned, in fact soccer is the exception. The GAA (Gaelic Athletic Association) and rugby union (IRFU) are probably the two most prominent examples of sports organisations which still govern the sport across the whole island, but it's the same for boxing (Irish Athletic Boxing Association
), field hockey (Hockey Ireland), Tennis (Tennis Ireland
) etc.
They were founded pre-partition, and simply never stopped. I suppose because they never had accusations of favouritism/neglect the same way that the IFA had.
IFA was controlled by bitter Orangemen. Rugby wasn't.
I work in a pub in Northern Ireland and there is a story that goes round that there was a player in the 50s maybe 60s played a game for the republic and then was driven up to Belfast to play for Northern Ireland or maybe the other way around? Has anyone else heard this or is it just a load of bollocks?
how much did u have to drink
@@roykeane2610 you might be interested to know it's true it was Johnny carey
@@thecityslicker2947 cool
Con Farrell also played for both. An All-Ireland XI took on Brazil in a friendly during the 1970s and lost 4-3.
It was a good number of players. Both FAs claimed they were Ireland so players were confused. Johnny Carey played in Belfast and lost 3 nil to England then traveled to Goodison Park a few days later where the FAI's Ireland beat England.
Many of us want one national island team like rugby cricket ect but sadly soccer or football has a different type of following and the unionists hard hateful attitude approach will never allow us to play together like George Best wished.
Brilliant.
Your coverage of NI football really helps explain how deep rooted the division was/is in the society and how the stain of sectarianism dictated every part of life for ordinary people on both sides, in every part of life.
Hopefully it helps explain just what the peace process was/Is up against.
Two things,
1. bear in mind Irish Catholics following soccer were already up aggainst huge pressure from the Catholic Church, irish political system & GAA (indigenous Irish sport asciation) for playing garrision games & then they had to face external sectarianism.
Really caught in the middle just to pursue the love of the game.
2. The fact that virtually all NI Catholic players opt to play for the Republic, it aids in the fact that the NI team is not the cross community unifyer it could be, such as the All-Ireland rugby team.
Eh? Point 1 is completely incorrect. Soccer is traditionally the more popular sport in the city of Derry because the Catholic Church encouraged young men to play it (for fear that playing gaelic games would encourage them towards republicanism). The likes of Derry City and Cliftonville did come under pressure alright (forcing Derry City out of the Irish League in the 1970s) but it was from outside of their community.
They should just unite Ireland
the north chose to be with the UK, it's their choice
@@pphyjynx8217 no they didnt... northern Ireland should unite its time
horsepat there was a referendum, 98% of the people who voted chose to stay, so yes they did, and yeah they should reunite, but only if Northern Ireland wants to.
@@pphyjynx8217 Northern Ireland Good Friday Agreement referendum, 1998 ..i think thats what your thinking of but there never been no vote on the reunification of Ireland
The Northern Ireland border poll was a referendum held in Northern Ireland on 8 March 1973 on whether Northern Ireland should remain part of the United Kingdom or join with the Republic of Ireland to form a united Ireland. It was the first time that a major referendum had been held in any region of the United Kingdom
Revisit Ranieri tactics
And it was a very VERY boring affair.....neither team will ever win anything, but look at our rugby team, could Dublin and Belfast come together again under like, an AFI (Association Football Ireland) or some shit like that so everyone is happy and have some god awful song like 'Ireland's Call' instead of Ireland national anthem or NI's song. Then, we might be able to beat teams like Georgia and Norway on a regular basis and maybe even play good football. They're basically the same thing, Michael O'Neill managed Dundalk FC, Martin O'Neill has 60 odd caps for NI, nearly the same ranking, same colours....unreal
Both teams should merge... It would enhance our football and bring it forward years...
Do a video on Dundalk fc in the league of Ireland plz ⚫️⚪️🇮🇪
IT'S TIME FOR PEACE AND UNITY FOR THE IRISH PEOPLE. Don't let British imperialism keep you divided.
the north chose to be with the UK
@@pphyjynx8217 no it didn't.
@readzys videos some people there are and some people there aren't
Shut up where are you from
United Ireland is the strongest Ireland
@@redvodka5256 Look at history. History says that the English settled the protestants in the northern part of Ireland. Also do you remember Jallianwala bagh massacre. When will your queen apologise for the horrific massacre.
It really bugs the brains out of me when people say ireland v northern ireland as though we're a differnt country we didnt ask for the country to be partitioned . One other thing the team that calls themselves ireland should recall in the 1990 world cup the republic team not ireland had players like mick mc carthy kevin sheedy ray houghton john aldridge playing . What part of ireland are they from
To be fair Mick Collins did ask for the country to be partitioned mate.
Exciting affair? Have you seen either of these two teams play recently??
If we had an all Ireland football team we’d easily make the world cup
LOL
Could win it
Thank you so much for this, I'll be cheering the green and white army tommorow
Trick or treat
Ended up 0-0 draw for Rep of Ireland
Really I love in irland
I live
Why talk about the football why the title about history of Ireland but talk only about football.
Wait this was over FOOTBALL
No
Plz make a video on Pakistan football
I appreciate the videos you guys have done on Ireland and Northern Ireland. But I feel, considering how many you've done on the subject so far, that you really shouldn't be making the mistakes that you made in this video. Glenavon is pronounced glen ahvon not glenayvon. Omagh is pronounced ohmuh not ohh ma. Ulster is not a synonym for Northern Ireland. There are 3 counties in Ulster that are not a part of Northern Ireland (Cavan, Donegal and Monaghan). Willfully conflating the two terms is pretty offensive.
Hi Oriel - thanks for feedback. I wrote this one and although I can't speak to everything you say, on the Ulster point, this was a specific reference to the Ulster FA as a distinct entity within the original IFA - not to Northern Ireland or Ulster's 9 counties - hope this clears that up.
@@benjaminmarkroberts It has, thanks.
Interesting especially as Irish football has both Teams run by the same rugby football federation I think as what runs the joint Irish country rugby team. So Irish rugby despite their huge fan and religious political divisions as recently shown on a BT Sport TV documentary, were able to play as one United team though using both national anthems but yet football they can't ? 😉
Anyone watching this who’s from Northern Ireland or Republic of Ireland I am
I wish the middleground is reached and our Island nation can be a single independent
Nation as it was before August 1800.l rhe middleground needs to be reached and accepted.
It’s the north of Ireland not northern
Strange that ireland competes as one whole nation in rugby and cricket and even in the Olympic games.
Yet football remains the segregated sport.
And I live in CO roscommon in ballaheadreen
Co. Mayo.
Ulster freedom fighters? Okay...
Sad
I support RoI first and NI after that. I'd love an all Ireland team but I can't see it happening.
@@JackthefilmfanaticThat’s because the IFA discriminated against southern based players and teams; there wouldn’t be an FAI today otherwise.
4.37 - It wasn't.
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Remember ORR
Video idea: why don’t South American star players don’t choose to play in their continent like Pele and others did
Pelé played in a completely different era of football, being a star on international level was enough to cement a player as a superstar at the time
Money, south Americans either go to Europe or to Mexico because the salaries are better. Just some teams can maintain those high salaries (Boca,River, etc...)
Their leagues are wank
Money
Exciting? Under Martin o’neill? Hahahahaha
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ní bheidh teacht ar do lá
@@tobymcelhinney5354 Is fearr Gaeilge briste, ná Béarla clíste