I know the draft this year isn't promising, but if you're going for a full rebuild, do you really tank for Bronny? It just seems two years of 40 years LeBron and a guard that is projected to, at best, be Alex Caruso isn't worth it. I see Bronny going more in the 12-18 slot, where you can really make a playoff push with LeBron and not take away from the core (Plus it would be hilarious if Bronny is drafted by the Pelicans after all they gave up to get AD).
I actually think Jarret Allen is a bigger issue for this team, we all Know the best version of this Cavs team is with Mobley playing the 5, cause with him playing the 4 the spacing falls apart in the playoffs and Jarret Allen isn’t really some untouchable piece
@@CLE_Rowdy that might be true, but it doesn’t take away from the fact Mobley is playing out of position.. and in the long term, you’re just hampering the guy’s development, because Cleveland insists on playing 2 centers
As a Cavs fan, I agree with a lot of what yall are saying. I think though that you CANNOT trade Mitchell this season unless he demands it. Garland and Mobley being hurt for a while means that we won’t get to see this team at full strength for another couple months, and I think that if healthy we can make a run in the playoffs. Especially if Jarrett Allen keeps playing how he has the last couple weeks. The roster is actually very solid this year too - Strus, Niang, Porter, LeVert all good role players if the stars are healthy/performing we can be deadly.
And I went to Game 1 vs. the Knicks. I felt bad for Mitchell. He was finding people open for good shots, and they kept missing. I remember Dean Wade being opened for a 3 from Mitchell, and the ball hit the backboard and then the ground. SMH.
"From the moment i was drafted by the cavs i knew my kid was gonna get drafted here in the city of his father and i knew i had to bring another to cleveland with him by my side and cement ourselves in history"-Lebron in 2040
I honestly feel like the mitchell to ny rumors have been mostly blown out of proportion by thr media, who for some reason have been day dreaming of him being on the knicks, even while he was in utah
We've been dealing with injuries all year, at this point i don't really care unless they make the playoffs regardless of seed(and don't have to be in the play in). I think we're a lot deeper this year and Jarrett allen is more physical but Garland and D mitch haven't been able to share the ball as well, and Evan mobley hasn't developed as much as people thought he would. He's a little more physical but could be moreso and still cant shoot the three to save his life.
Cavs fan from Cleveland here. Mitchell just isn’t a superstar. He’s never going to be the #1 guy on a title team. He’s really closer to someone like Jamal Murray. Too many nights he shot chucks and puts up horrific splits. The Cavs are screwed if they wait any longer than the deadline to move him. If he walks when he’s a free agent you loose him for nothing or you resign him and stay an above average team who gets pounced in the second round. Too much salary will be rated up by the Mid 4
Tbh as a Knick fan the biggest obstacle to DMitch playing in NY might be the Knicks. With the OG trade we kinda unofficially confirmed that outside of free agency we don’t plan to make Donovan Mitchell part of the future of the team. We already have Brunson and we don’t need another ball dominant scorer on the roster. He could still end up in Brooklyn or Miami easily if he asks out of Cleveland but the biggest name I can see the Knicks getting soon is maybe like Dejounte Murray
The Cavs may be a bit shakey in real life, but according to my many MyNBA sims in 2K, they are consistently a 60 win team and are always making deep playoff runs while having 3 All-NBA caliber players and 2 MVP candidates who consistently average 30+ a game. Darius Garland and Donnovan Mitchell might as well be Magic and Kareem or Steph and Klay in 2K lmao.
Well, it’s hard to bell continuity when injuries to your starters happen so often. Still this team has a great future with or without donovan. Jarrett is making a late push for the all star game
Jarrett Allen looks significantly better now than he did last year, he's a lot more physical. I would not trade d-mitch unless the return is really good.
Last year, I had season tickets to the Cavs when I lived in Cleveland (moved to DC in the summer). I suspected early on that Mitchell wouldn't stay because while the team was solid, it wasn't a title contending team. And Cleveland doesn't have a great history of building around stars (e.g. Lebron played with crappy teammates for years).
Gotta give it the season and see what happens BUT if he’s presented a max this off-season and doesn’t sign…you have to recoup assets and preserve the rest of the core. Sad but what else can we do.
The Knicks get rid of RJ cause he needed the ball too much to be effective and Mitchell plays no defense so it wouldn’t surprise me if they don’t get Mitchell.
a lot of this noise about mitchell wanting out is being pushed heavily by mainstream media. he is in cleveland now, has shown that he enjoys playing with the team, and has made no sign of wanting to leave. mainstream media just cant stand to see him in a small market.
The funniest part is that if he does go to a larger market. The media will forget about him and try to get the next good player out of some other small market. Don’t forget that they will also call Mitchell a ring chaser.
It was always weird seeing Donovan Mitchell in a Cavaliers Jersey, it just doesnt seem like it was supposed to happen or be on that team, time will tell
You didn’t mention that Cavs had a rough start (2-6 I think) because Allen and Garland were injured. They’ve bounced back and I think they’re safe top4 spot in the east
@@fentazen2677Steph is 6’3 klay is 6’6 the average height of a shooting guard is 6’5 and Donny is like 6’2 that’s a big difference and klay can actaully play defense
I'm a little surprised that Darius Garland has taken a bit of a step back this season, his assists were a big part of his game 2 years ago. I get that adding Donovan Mitchell is going to change up a few things about how Garland played, but I honestly thought his assists rate would increase with Mitchell on the court. And regarding Mitchell going to the Knicks, that probably would make them the third best team in the East with only the Bucks and Celtics as superiors. But I once heard that the Knicks were looking at Joel Embiid in the near future. If Mitchell goes to the Knicks in exchange for assets, is Embiid even an option anymore?
At this point, given he's a really bad fit next to Brunson and the recent sentiment coming from the Knicks' front office and former GM Scott Perry, doesn't seem like they really want him anymore. However, I could see the Brooklyn Nets making the swing: it gets him to NY, the Nets have valuable draft picks and a couple of depth pieces to make a trade possible, and once they're off the Ben Simmons contract in 2025, they may be able to sign another star in free agency. A Spida/Mikal combo isn't gonna do much, but you add someone like Brandon Ingram to that mix, whole different story.
Mitchell trade was a mistake imo then and now, short of swapping for Lebron, ride it out at this point. I really think getting in Travers and being healthy is all this roster needs. We got the shooting needed.
It’s hard for young talent to develop when you have a volume scorer on the roster taking a majority of the shots. Cleveland needs to trade D Mitchell and let the kids learn to win in this league.
@@devontebroom6800The only reason they traded lauri is because he’s kinda slow for a sf and their pf was already took and they thought somehow a 6’2 shooting guard was gonna fix their problems you don’t have a john Stockton and give him a James harden
Ngl maybe it’s jus small sample size but part of the RJ Barrett experiment not working was probably a fit issues. He playing better in Toronto and in NY he had to share the ball with Brunson and Randle a lot on a team that ran a lot of ISOs
@@itzlucaaa6789 oh 100% was fit. I don't think RJ is a bad player, superstar level? probably not. But definitely a starting level player, fringe all star on his good years.
Yo! I appreciated how you guys were humble and walked back some of the talk on the Clippers. So when are you guys going to apologize to Cleveland/talk about the Cavs' crazy run!?
Why would the Knicks trade for Dmitch hes literally slightly better Brunson?. And when has 2 small ball dominant guards ever played winning basketball it would be the dumbest thing on the planet and anyone with a single braincell knows it won't work
This is gonna sound super one sided but hear me out. If Mitchell is wanting to go somewhere for branding and be a contender, why not Golden State? Chris Paul and a 1st rounder or a couple of 2nd rounders, espeically if they get bounced in the 1st round again. Chris Paul won't be the scorer Mitchell is but might help to have some seasoned leadership in the Cav's locker room. Plus the picks on a young team could make a big difference. All that being said, the Bron/Brony thing would be hilarious haha
@@sebastianramones2722 True there is a big gap between Chris Paul and Mitchell but but CP3 brings leadership everywhere he goes, something the Cavs are lacking, and if this lineup isn't working after mutliple tries, I don't see much of a reason to keep it going. I think the Cavs view their main for as Garland, Mobley and Allen, get some picks and a vet in there and do what you can for those guys. Especially if Mitchell is wanting to leave. If GSW would do it, CP3 and a couple 1st rounders, maybe some 2nds but yeah.
@@aretheygoodnba why would u trade a star like mitchel for an injured vet on his way out of the league? You can get a lot more then some picks and an injury hazard for mitchel.
@@MrArrow54 Sure he's a star, but is he a star that's gonne be work extension money if he even signs? Getting a Chris Paul or someone like that isn't necessarily about his on coury contributions but his locker room leadership. I'm not gonna sit here and say CP3 will have the same output on the court cause he won't but if he can help organize and boost the 3 members of this core, it'll probably make up the difference. Worst case, he's got 1 year after that if you don't want to keep him.
I feel like I'm bringing this up every time Mitchell is mentioned, but for some reason since the start of the season his ability to create for others is consistently overrated, and that pisses me off. Among the 10 NBA guards with the highest USG% this season Mitchell is the third worst passer statistically, behind Curry (who is having the worst passing season of his career) and Anthony Edwards (who is doing his best possible Kobe impersonation). In addition, he scores a little less and a tiny bit less efficiently than most of the other players in this top 10. And it's not just this season; among the 15 NBA guards with the highest career USG% over the last 40 years, Mitchell is statistically the worst passer while being just average in terms of efficiency and scoring volume. So here we have a player who controls the ball as much, if not more, than all the historically great hero-ball guards, while consistently being one of the worst passers statistically amongst them and without really shining in terms of scoring and efficiency. Is this really normal? Does Mitchell really have to have this kind of USG%?
Gave this channel a listen but this take is horrible. The Cavs have hit their peak Mitchell will leave and the whole NBA knows that. Also the Knicks didnt trade for OG to trade him for Mitchell weeks later. Take the fandom glasses off the Cavs made a trash trade and will have to suck it up soon enough better now and get more back then the summer!
They have one guy who never thought he’d be in Cleveland and the other will never mature. Much of Altman’s team is in Utah, swindled away by a smooth talking Danny. Koby got to rub elbows with celebrity, and got taken.
I actually think Jarret Allen is a bigger issue for this team, we all Know the best version of this Cavs team is with Mobley playing the 5, cause with him playing the 4 the spacing falls apart in the playoffs and Jarret Allen isn’t really some untouchable piece
@@dearmas9068 lol u think playing 2 centers in 2024 is gon work, Mobley(drafted to be a center) is the worst spot up player in the league as we speak on a per possession basis when he’s in the lineup with Allen.. u don’t have to tell me u a casual I kinda figured it out lol 🤣
As a Knicks fan I knew nobody watched us when everyone was surprised we crushed the Cavs. The Cavs were the only team in the league that we blew out consistently, 3-1 in the regular season, 4-1 playoff series, we had their number all year. I had high expectations from them, shit if LeBron ever leaves the Lakers he'd fit right on the Cavs perfectly as that missing piece Then a minute after after I post this comment y'all say D Mitch leaving for the Knicks makes no sense even tho WE ARE STILL BETTER THAN THE CAVS LMAOOOO
@@Fatboyjo2.1 8-7 means we are still better, 3 seasons ago we didn’t have Brunson and the Cavs didn’t have Donovan Mitchell so bringing it up means nothing anyways
I really like mitchell and brunson but i dont think a team of short kings is a good idea. Just doesnt work in NBA. OMG a ten part docu series of lebron. Im already SMH.
Mitchell & DG overlap … Mobley & Allen overlap. Too talented to not start this core, Strus does help. Adding Luke Travers would have an OG KNICK effect, he’s like that with a splash of Jalen Johnson to help this cavalier machine roar!
Hey guys! Dame has been having a relatively disappointing season, why don't you do a video about what you think is his best game ever?! (Hint: game 5 against the nuggets 😅)
Another pointless Donovan to the Knicks vid they hate that cavs are doing good without they whole team nobody talk about Donovan when it’s just hoops just bring him up to get traded to the trash ass Knicks or mid ass heat
they have around the same record as they did last year currently. still don’t understand why the media hates the cavs and wants to take mitchell away from them. dumb video
Notice that the Cavaliers have a better record than the Knick’s while dealing with major injury issues, but the Cavaliers are falling apart while the Knick’s are somehow a rising star? These takes are starting to become delusional!
Cavs need to trade 🕷 ASAP while we can still get value in return. Send him & Okoro to Brooklyn for Mikal Bridges, Dorian Finney-Smith, Cam Thomas and two 1st Round picks!!
as soon as cavs made that trade i hated it, mitchell garland combo defensively is atrocious. plus the offense is just better running through garland and mobley vs iso spida. cavs own their pick thsi year and should tank. i hope we trade him
Garland is a pineapple and Donovan never intended to be there very long. Altman really squared when he made the Donovan trade. Why isn’t anyone talking about that. He was used hard by Danny.
@@TheDarkbluerock there really isnt. maybe a range is like 18-23 being considered "youth", then 24-31 being a players prime, and then 31 and older being a decline. definetely a case by case basis though, look at someone like lebron, compared to someone like deron williams, who was done by 30
Stopped watching the video when you referred to Mitchell as a "superstar" at the 4-minute mark. The dude is a Robin, not a Batman, and you ain't winning jack with him as your number 1 option. He isn't on the same planet as Embiid as a player and look what the Sixers have done with their "superstar" in the playoffs. Yeah, enough said. I like the Cavs roster, but it still isn't enough to go through the Bucks and Celtics and that's why it's so hard to win in this league. Mitchell needs to be shopped and maybe a desperate team will be fleeced when said team decides they need a "superstar".
Keep him, let him walk in 2 years and get nothing in return, and watch ur team fall apart? naw, not logical at all. trade him, get the best package u can, and move on. That's the move.
Do your homework first the vid Sucks!!!! I feel like you didn't do your homework I think your just talking bsss We have great roster made alot trades that still get comfortable. We have up and coming players .. We been playing much better as the season goes on 💯
Are you smoking crack... they have the best bench and roster in the NBA. Cavs problem and still is... will always be coaching. Not, understanding how to use that bench.
Y’all gotta stop pushing a dead narrative😂 don ain’t going anywhere cavs is the 4 seed right now only 2 games behind Philly cuz they played more games so far
The idea of the cavs tanking for Bronny and getting Lebron back to go on and win a championship would convince me that Lebron is the main character.
That would be legendary
Not even trying to be like that just honestly curious, do you think they’d have to tank for bronny? Would love to see them both play for the Cavs
I'm saying cos now that just sounds like the funniest thing to end LeBron's legacy
I know the draft this year isn't promising, but if you're going for a full rebuild, do you really tank for Bronny? It just seems two years of 40 years LeBron and a guard that is projected to, at best, be Alex Caruso isn't worth it.
I see Bronny going more in the 12-18 slot, where you can really make a playoff push with LeBron and not take away from the core (Plus it would be hilarious if Bronny is drafted by the Pelicans after all they gave up to get AD).
The Cavs would be fools to tank for Bronny. No disrespect to him, but he's not a highly-touted prospect. His name value is just that: name value.
Before the Mitchell trade, Garland was balling. 21 and 10 guy easily. Garland took the biggest hit from that trade imo.
Exactly, the trade stunted their growth not his fault tho blame Alcoholic Altman..
I actually think Jarret Allen is a bigger issue for this team, we all Know the best version of this Cavs team is with Mobley playing the 5, cause with him playing the 4 the spacing falls apart in the playoffs and Jarret Allen isn’t really some untouchable piece
He's their best player rn@@Switcheroo1
@@Switcheroo1That isnt true at all, Cleveland started the year without Allen and Mobley played the Center, shit was in hell
@@CLE_Rowdy that might be true, but it doesn’t take away from the fact Mobley is playing out of position.. and in the long term, you’re just hampering the guy’s development, because Cleveland insists on playing 2 centers
As a Cavs fan, I agree with a lot of what yall are saying. I think though that you CANNOT trade Mitchell this season unless he demands it. Garland and Mobley being hurt for a while means that we won’t get to see this team at full strength for another couple months, and I think that if healthy we can make a run in the playoffs. Especially if Jarrett Allen keeps playing how he has the last couple weeks. The roster is actually very solid this year too - Strus, Niang, Porter, LeVert all good role players if the stars are healthy/performing we can be deadly.
And I went to Game 1 vs. the Knicks. I felt bad for Mitchell. He was finding people open for good shots, and they kept missing. I remember Dean Wade being opened for a 3 from Mitchell, and the ball hit the backboard and then the ground. SMH.
He was bricking himself wym
"From the moment i was drafted by the cavs i knew my kid was gonna get drafted here in the city of his father and i knew i had to bring another to cleveland with him by my side and cement ourselves in history"-Lebron in 2040
I honestly feel like the mitchell to ny rumors have been mostly blown out of proportion by thr media, who for some reason have been day dreaming of him being on the knicks, even while he was in utah
Ngl Knicks fans getting tired of it too. Everytime a role player has a bad game we gotta hear about Donovan Mitchell
We've been dealing with injuries all year, at this point i don't really care unless they make the playoffs regardless of seed(and don't have to be in the play in). I think we're a lot deeper this year and Jarrett allen is more physical but Garland and D mitch haven't been able to share the ball as well, and Evan mobley hasn't developed as much as people thought he would. He's a little more physical but could be moreso and still cant shoot the three to save his life.
The Pistons have a big decision to make too. Please sell the team
The pistons could still do a disaster draft
Cavs fan from Cleveland here. Mitchell just isn’t a superstar. He’s never going to be the #1 guy on a title team. He’s really closer to someone like Jamal Murray. Too many nights he shot chucks and puts up horrific splits. The Cavs are screwed if they wait any longer than the deadline to move him. If he walks when he’s a free agent you loose him for nothing or you resign him and stay an above average team who gets pounced in the second round. Too much salary will be rated up by the Mid 4
Yep. fans are FINALLY realizing this, DM is NOT a Superstar he's an very Athletic shot chucker/Volume scorer
Tbh as a Knick fan the biggest obstacle to DMitch playing in NY might be the Knicks. With the OG trade we kinda unofficially confirmed that outside of free agency we don’t plan to make Donovan Mitchell part of the future of the team. We already have Brunson and we don’t need another ball dominant scorer on the roster. He could still end up in Brooklyn or Miami easily if he asks out of Cleveland but the biggest name I can see the Knicks getting soon is maybe like Dejounte Murray
Video about the 90s Clyde Drexler Blazers? They made 2 finals I would love to see you guys talk about them
Feel like no one ever talks about the 1990 finals, they only mention the bad boys going back to back.
@@awc6007 facts they must've been really competitive.
The Cavs may be a bit shakey in real life, but according to my many MyNBA sims in 2K, they are consistently a 60 win team and are always making deep playoff runs while having 3 All-NBA caliber players and 2 MVP candidates who consistently average 30+ a game. Darius Garland and Donnovan Mitchell might as well be Magic and Kareem or Steph and Klay in 2K lmao.
Well, it’s hard to bell continuity when injuries to your starters happen so often. Still this team has a great future with or without donovan. Jarrett is making a late push for the all star game
Jarrett Allen looks significantly better now than he did last year, he's a lot more physical. I would not trade d-mitch unless the return is really good.
Last year, I had season tickets to the Cavs when I lived in Cleveland (moved to DC in the summer). I suspected early on that Mitchell wouldn't stay because while the team was solid, it wasn't a title contending team. And Cleveland doesn't have a great history of building around stars (e.g. Lebron played with crappy teammates for years).
Gotta give it the season and see what happens BUT if he’s presented a max this off-season and doesn’t sign…you have to recoup assets and preserve the rest of the core. Sad but what else can we do.
The Knicks get rid of RJ cause he needed the ball too much to be effective and Mitchell plays no defense so it wouldn’t surprise me if they don’t get Mitchell.
I feel the same way. Mitchell n Brunson wont work.
a lot of this noise about mitchell wanting out is being pushed heavily by mainstream media. he is in cleveland now, has shown that he enjoys playing with the team, and has made no sign of wanting to leave. mainstream media just cant stand to see him in a small market.
The funniest part is that if he does go to a larger market. The media will forget about him and try to get the next good player out of some other small market. Don’t forget that they will also call Mitchell a ring chaser.
Too early to call, they’ve had a ton of injuries to start the year, so their record is skewed
But yes draft Bronny for one last ride lmao
It was always weird seeing Donovan Mitchell in a Cavaliers Jersey, it just doesnt seem like it was supposed to happen or be on that team, time will tell
that’s ur shit opinion lol
Lebron to Cleveland would be hilarious 😂and poetic 🌹
The farewell to one James and the welcome of a new James
You didn’t mention that Cavs had a rough start (2-6 I think) because Allen and Garland were injured. They’ve bounced back and I think they’re safe top4 spot in the east
Yeah but let's be honest Donovan is NOT a good fit for Cleveland, two undersized 6'1 guards will NEVER work
@@devontebroom6800ever heard of Steph and Klay?
@@fentazen2677 imagine comparing DG and Donovan to Steph and klay 😂🤣
@@devontebroom6800 Mitchell is better than Klay, and Garland is better than Klay now.
@@fentazen2677Steph is 6’3 klay is 6’6 the average height of a shooting guard is 6’5 and Donny is like 6’2 that’s a big difference and klay can actaully play defense
I'm a little surprised that Darius Garland has taken a bit of a step back this season, his assists were a big part of his game 2 years ago. I get that adding Donovan Mitchell is going to change up a few things about how Garland played, but I honestly thought his assists rate would increase with Mitchell on the court. And regarding Mitchell going to the Knicks, that probably would make them the third best team in the East with only the Bucks and Celtics as superiors. But I once heard that the Knicks were looking at Joel Embiid in the near future. If Mitchell goes to the Knicks in exchange for assets, is Embiid even an option anymore?
lol Knicks not getting him this shit is a New York fantasy
It’s crazy because without garland Mitchell’s ast went up so I wonder is garland really the problem
@@uncleshannon1756 he’s not a problem but both of them on the court together hurts our defense for sure cuz they small asf
Don’t the Knicks have like a treasure trove of picks?
At this point, given he's a really bad fit next to Brunson and the recent sentiment coming from the Knicks' front office and former GM Scott Perry, doesn't seem like they really want him anymore. However, I could see the Brooklyn Nets making the swing: it gets him to NY, the Nets have valuable draft picks and a couple of depth pieces to make a trade possible, and once they're off the Ben Simmons contract in 2025, they may be able to sign another star in free agency. A Spida/Mikal combo isn't gonna do much, but you add someone like Brandon Ingram to that mix, whole different story.
Cavs outright said they’re not trading Mitchell. Not this season. Nope.
Do the cavs need a time machine like the hawks?
Mitchell trade was a mistake imo then and now, short of swapping for Lebron, ride it out at this point. I really think getting in Travers and being healthy is all this roster needs. We got the shooting needed.
It’s hard for young talent to develop when you have a volume scorer on the roster taking a majority of the shots. Cleveland needs to trade D Mitchell and let the kids learn to win in this league.
Facts and I like Don but he's Not a Superstar he's an Athletic shot chucker last game he was like 7-19 on FGs
@@devontebroom6800 7/18 for 17 pts in a home win by only 2, over the Spurs!
@@JazzYachtrocker he's trash when he plays against bigger Wings, it wasn't an issue when Cavs had Lauri..
@@devontebroom6800The only reason they traded lauri is because he’s kinda slow for a sf and their pf was already took and they thought somehow a 6’2 shooting guard was gonna fix their problems you don’t have a john Stockton and give him a James harden
@@simeon8967 I know that, Cavs were supposed to at least trade Lauri for Ingram or Cam Johnson, instead they trade BIG for small and he's 6'1😔
Jarett Allen literally having a all star year 😂 yeah I’m not taking y’all serious
Allen been balling so have garland wen he healthy
Exactly this, I dunno why we would trade OG who is exactly whats we needed for DMitch who is obviously better than RJ but causes all the same issue.
Ngl maybe it’s jus small sample size but part of the RJ Barrett experiment not working was probably a fit issues. He playing better in Toronto and in NY he had to share the ball with Brunson and Randle a lot on a team that ran a lot of ISOs
@@itzlucaaa6789 oh 100% was fit. I don't think RJ is a bad player, superstar level? probably not. But definitely a starting level player, fringe all star on his good years.
The knocks just traded quickly and Barrett so I don’t see this trade happening.
Loved the Bronny ending lol
Yo! I appreciated how you guys were humble and walked back some of the talk on the Clippers. So when are you guys going to apologize to Cleveland/talk about the Cavs' crazy run!?
Random but y’all should make a video about the most random/ funniest moments y’all remember while watching the nba and just reminisce about it
i realllllly want him on the heat
Why would the Knicks trade for Dmitch hes literally slightly better Brunson?. And when has 2 small ball dominant guards ever played winning basketball it would be the dumbest thing on the planet and anyone with a single braincell knows it won't work
This is gonna sound super one sided but hear me out. If Mitchell is wanting to go somewhere for branding and be a contender, why not Golden State? Chris Paul and a 1st rounder or a couple of 2nd rounders, espeically if they get bounced in the 1st round again. Chris Paul won't be the scorer Mitchell is but might help to have some seasoned leadership in the Cav's locker room. Plus the picks on a young team could make a big difference. All that being said, the Bron/Brony thing would be hilarious haha
are you insane? just chris paul and picks is not gotta cut it
@@sebastianramones2722 True there is a big gap between Chris Paul and Mitchell but but CP3 brings leadership everywhere he goes, something the Cavs are lacking, and if this lineup isn't working after mutliple tries, I don't see much of a reason to keep it going. I think the Cavs view their main for as Garland, Mobley and Allen, get some picks and a vet in there and do what you can for those guys. Especially if Mitchell is wanting to leave. If GSW would do it, CP3 and a couple 1st rounders, maybe some 2nds but yeah.
@@aretheygoodnba why would u trade a star like mitchel for an injured vet on his way out of the league? You can get a lot more then some picks and an injury hazard for mitchel.
@@MrArrow54 Sure he's a star, but is he a star that's gonne be work extension money if he even signs? Getting a Chris Paul or someone like that isn't necessarily about his on coury contributions but his locker room leadership. I'm not gonna sit here and say CP3 will have the same output on the court cause he won't but if he can help organize and boost the 3 members of this core, it'll probably make up the difference. Worst case, he's got 1 year after that if you don't want to keep him.
Brother you better throw Moody and Kuminga in that package if you want Mitchell
Can we get a video on the magic
I feel like I'm bringing this up every time Mitchell is mentioned, but for some reason since the start of the season his ability to create for others is consistently overrated, and that pisses me off.
Among the 10 NBA guards with the highest USG% this season Mitchell is the third worst passer statistically, behind Curry (who is having the worst passing season of his career) and Anthony Edwards (who is doing his best possible Kobe impersonation). In addition, he scores a little less and a tiny bit less efficiently than most of the other players in this top 10.
And it's not just this season; among the 15 NBA guards with the highest career USG% over the last 40 years, Mitchell is statistically the worst passer while being just average in terms of efficiency and scoring volume.
So here we have a player who controls the ball as much, if not more, than all the historically great hero-ball guards, while consistently being one of the worst passers statistically amongst them and without really shining in terms of scoring and efficiency. Is this really normal? Does Mitchell really have to have this kind of USG%?
Facts, Cavs Are winning despite Donavon, Alcoholic Altman got fleeced imo..
honestly you can't win with mitch as your 1st option
Why is the only time you guys talk about the Cavs it has to be something to just rip the basketball fan out of me
Gave this channel a listen but this take is horrible. The Cavs have hit their peak Mitchell will leave and the whole NBA knows that. Also the Knicks didnt trade for OG to trade him for Mitchell weeks later. Take the fandom glasses off the Cavs made a trash trade and will have to suck it up soon enough better now and get more back then the summer!
How they hit there peak wen they young aff still 😂😂😂
A lot went wrong in that Series against the Knicks. That simply was not the Cavs out there. It was an embarrassing performance.
They have one guy who never thought he’d be in Cleveland and the other will never mature. Much of Altman’s team is in Utah, swindled away by a smooth talking Danny. Koby got to rub elbows with celebrity, and got taken.
can yall please compilations for me to sleep too
MY CAVS GET A VIDEO OMG
Kyle Lowry mvp of this vid 😆
Update video time 😭
I actually think Jarret Allen is a bigger issue for this team, we all Know the best version of this Cavs team is with Mobley playing the 5, cause with him playing the 4 the spacing falls apart in the playoffs and Jarret Allen isn’t really some untouchable piece
Mobley played the 5 early in the season and it didn’t work
@@dearmas9068 lol u think playing 2 centers in 2024 is gon work, Mobley(drafted to be a center) is the worst spot up player in the league as we speak on a per possession basis when he’s in the lineup with Allen.. u don’t have to tell me u a casual I kinda figured it out lol 🤣
@@dearmas9068 lol exactly! U ain’t got no basketball argument to come back.. want to tell u how I met your mother?
Keep sleeping on the Magic. 👍
As a Knicks fan I knew nobody watched us when everyone was surprised we crushed the Cavs. The Cavs were the only team in the league that we blew out consistently, 3-1 in the regular season, 4-1 playoff series, we had their number all year. I had high expectations from them, shit if LeBron ever leaves the Lakers he'd fit right on the Cavs perfectly as that missing piece
Then a minute after after I post this comment y'all say D Mitch leaving for the Knicks makes no sense even tho WE ARE STILL BETTER THAN THE CAVS LMAOOOO
No y’all not you just outplayed them
@@Fatboyjo2.1 8-3 against them in the last 2 seasons so far, we are better than them lmao
@@NiyiDaNinja8-7 for the last 3 season
@@NiyiDaNinjayou not 😂😂😂the Knicks good but in a rematch the cavs would win
@@Fatboyjo2.1 8-7 means we are still better, 3 seasons ago we didn’t have Brunson and the Cavs didn’t have Donovan Mitchell so bringing it up means nothing anyways
I really like mitchell and brunson but i dont think a team of short kings is a good idea. Just doesnt work in NBA. OMG a ten part docu series of lebron. Im already SMH.
You guys should make a podcast
Mitchell & DG overlap … Mobley & Allen overlap. Too talented to not start this core, Strus does help. Adding Luke Travers would have an OG KNICK effect, he’s like that with a splash of Jalen Johnson to help this cavalier machine roar!
You think Garland, Mobley & Allen have more potential than Brunson, Randle & OG ??? 😂😂😂 Yeah, you definitely watch basketball
Yes they do
Hey guys! Dame has been having a relatively disappointing season, why don't you do a video about what you think is his best game ever?!
(Hint: game 5 against the nuggets 😅)
They already did that
@@karlozoldyck1741 you're right! They did. Thanks for pointing that out
Nets also have a decision. Sean Marks get on the phone and Tsai sell the team
Another pointless Donovan to the Knicks vid they hate that cavs are doing good without they whole team nobody talk about Donovan when it’s just hoops just bring him up to get traded to the trash ass Knicks or mid ass heat
Thank u
This aged like milk 😂😂😂
they have around the same record as they did last year currently. still don’t understand why the media hates the cavs and wants to take mitchell away from them. dumb video
Notice that the Cavaliers have a better record than the Knick’s while dealing with major injury issues, but the Cavaliers are falling apart while the Knick’s are somehow a rising star? These takes are starting to become delusional!
@@kennethsmith6367 bigger market bias, i’ve known it all too well as a cleveland fan
S/o Ricky Rubio. Bro retired last week 😔🫡
Cavs need to trade 🕷 ASAP while we can still get value in return. Send him & Okoro to Brooklyn for Mikal Bridges, Dorian Finney-Smith, Cam Thomas and two 1st Round picks!!
@dearmas9068 Cavs didn't pick up his option and not sure he will be back. Love his defense though
Btw....thunder just beat the blazers by 62😮😮😮
Jalen Brunson and Donavan Mitchell are east coast garland and Mitchell
My favorite team
They should consider trading Spida for Lebron.
Yall are crazy biased to think the Cavs are in anyway better than the Knicks.
They are
@@dearmas9068 in what world?
as soon as cavs made that trade i hated it, mitchell garland combo defensively is atrocious. plus the offense is just better running through garland and mobley vs iso spida. cavs own their pick thsi year and should tank. i hope we trade him
I wonder if you guys would pick the 76ers over the Heat?
Theyve been hurt, shows yall dont watch the cavs
The games before DG and Mobley got injured they were literally losing games 🙄
@@devontebroom6800 they were missing Allen, LeVert, and Mitchell early on
"Have a decision 'too' make"?
Donovan will stay as cavalier forever . Keep dreaming new york 😂
Update video time 😂😂 aged liked milk 18-2 in their last 20 games
Garland is a pineapple and Donovan never intended to be there very long. Altman really squared when he made the Donovan trade. Why isn’t anyone talking about that. He was used hard by Danny.
Bottom line, Cavs will be Bottom 4 team in 24-25.
No we dont!
7 GAME winning streak!
We fine
the knicks wouldnt be trading OG in a mitchell deal you clowns.
“Young players like Allen” he was drafted the same year as Mitchell he isn’t young
25 isn't young anymore, huh?
@@TheDarkbluerock if mitchell, whos only 1 year older than him aint young, then allen aint either
@@LuisLRC so where would you put the border?
You sound stupid you not considered old till like 31 in the nba
@@TheDarkbluerock there really isnt. maybe a range is like 18-23 being considered "youth", then 24-31 being a players prime, and then 31 and older being a decline. definetely a case by case basis though, look at someone like lebron, compared to someone like deron williams, who was done by 30
No way Cleveland has better potential than Knicks, are you joking??
Stopped watching the video when you referred to Mitchell as a "superstar" at the 4-minute mark. The dude is a Robin, not a Batman, and you ain't winning jack with him as your number 1 option. He isn't on the same planet as Embiid as a player and look what the Sixers have done with their "superstar" in the playoffs. Yeah, enough said. I like the Cavs roster, but it still isn't enough to go through the Bucks and Celtics and that's why it's so hard to win in this league. Mitchell needs to be shopped and maybe a desperate team will be fleeced when said team decides they need a "superstar".
You obviously haven’t been watching jarret Allen lately. Credibility lost.👎
If the cavs are so much better then the Knicks why are their records the same and why did the cavs lose in 5 games lmao ,this was a video of excuses
Inexperience no bench
Just terrible casual takes like this team ain’t been dealing with injuries all year😂 and yet still the 4 seed
Keep him, let him walk in 2 years and get nothing in return, and watch ur team fall apart? naw, not logical at all. trade him, get the best package u can, and move on. That's the move.
I wouldn’t wanna live in Cleveland. New York way better he don’t care about how good team is
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Do your homework first the vid Sucks!!!!
I feel like you didn't do your homework
I think your just talking bsss
We have great roster made alot trades that still get comfortable.
We have up and coming players ..
We been playing much better as the season goes on 💯
Are you smoking crack... they have the best bench and roster in the NBA.
Cavs problem and still is... will always be coaching.
Not, understanding how to use that bench.
Y’all gotta stop pushing a dead narrative😂 don ain’t going anywhere cavs is the 4 seed right now only 2 games behind Philly cuz they played more games so far
First
The knicks trash
the nba in europe fucking sucks. we dont need european nba games. that shit sucks.