WTF Is Ultramarine Linux?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 24 พ.ค. 2022
- Today I talk about Ultramarine Linux, a Fedora-based distribution that comes with a few cool Desktop Environments.
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Of course Matt has to look at the DE that is still in development. It has to be the hard way.🤣
I never do easy. LOL
5:50 Correction: you only create a user afterwards if you use the default GNOME version. Other spins have the user creation option before installation.
when i saw "ultramarine linux" i immediately thought it would be warhammer 40k themed lmao
Out of fear that these niche distros come and go, I tend to stick to the main big players and as close to the roots as possible 🙏
@@priyapepsi if only tgey actually made their own distros/OS. Most distros are just their parent bases with a different theming or desktop environment. In that case the dev manpower would be better off just supporting the parent distro 😅
Ive tried some distros but landed on Mint. It works so why change it?
its quite hilarious that "snap" or "snappy" packages are known for being slow
hello. good video. i just bought an ender 3 pro 3d printer. and i want to be able to use pronterface, cura, and prusa slicer, but non of my programs see my printer. LSUSB sees it. but i dont know what to do after that. could you have the exact command?
Blivet-GUI is uniqee to Fedora; in fact, you can invoke it during the Fedora installation to get greater control over the partitions used by the installer.
I tried installing the pantheon version on my old laptop ...it worked ok live ..but failed on the installation ...i tried several times. ..it appeared to install but as soon as it said restart the computer.. nothing..wouldn't start at all.
Matt I think the tabs in the terminal display what directory your in. It's posible that I'm wrong.
That makes sense. I was expecting the process name like Komsole does.
i don't know about fedora repos but in arch, xrandr comes with xorg-apps, even though it generally does, it doesn't necessarily comes with any desktop environment installation.
i'm assuming that it's probably something similar in fedora.
as a fedora user, I can confirm that I have had to manually install it in the past, so I guess it is both not installed by default and no bundled with xorg.
matt im in trouble im slightly learning some stuff on I3 and i got polybar installed......ik u did a "beginner" video on polybar awhile back. do u think maybe u could do a video on how to set your config up for multiple WM's cause im checking out i3, qtile, and spectrwm and i was gonna use the bar that came with them but i saw that DT had multiple WM's layouts in 1 config and that's mostly the reason im using polybar. because i think that's a cool thing.
Getting polybar to run on qtile is a pain in the bum. So I'd just use the built in bar for that, it is better than Polybar in some ways anyways. For spectrwm, the process should be the same as i3, only you should use the xwindows module instead of the i3 module.
I'm not opposed to some WM specific vids in the future, but it won't be quick.
for qtile it is highly suggested to use the qtile bar
you can indeed hide the bar and install polybar with ewmh modules
Cangjie is a Chinese input method and mostly used by people whose first language is Chinese. If I remember right Cutefish is developed in China, so this explains why it is there.
The Wiki is currently getting a rework so thats why there isn't that much information
Could you move your screen-in-screen thing away from the buttons you're using pretty please? Thx!
Well, it does offer Budgie as the main DE, which isn't offered on Fedora. It also adds all the RPM Fusion stuff for you out of the box. RPM Fusion is only added by one click in their Gnome DE, the other DEs are more complicated (terminal). I think they added their own icon pack as well, I haven't seen 'Fluent' used as an icon pack in Fedora. The Budgie version here also centres your icons on the panel, more like Windows 11. Manjaro, for example, adds them all to the left near the menu. This is a quite pretty Budgie DE :)
Okay, on Fedora GNOME where it prompts you if you'd like to have third-party repositories, that does not enable RPM Fusion, that click only enables certain packages to be enabled such as Nvidia Drivers and Steam
Hey! Which Web Browser are you using?
Firefox
Well, you can't get a Budgie version of Fedora right now. That is in the making according to the Friends for Budgie group. =)
I did put that in the video, at least the part about not being able to get budgie
Their Budgie flagship is really nice :) Cutefish will be decent if it ever gets out of development. I don't do Gnome, but I did try Pantheon, but because you can't add PPAs it is kind of limited to what you see is what you get. I'd try the Budgie if you want a decent experience :)
I did get there at the end of the video. You are right it's better.
Check out the errata page on the wiki for Copr support.
Budgie is btw getting an official fedora spin soon
Korora that's a name I haven't heard in a while!
Please do a quick video on the pantheon version!
I would love to try this, but I prefer LTS (Long-Term Support) distributions.
I guess ts because fedora ships with pure version of kde and gnome than custom version......
and this is configured with good defaults for new users.....
:)
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Ultramarine is very good- especially the KDE Plasma/ Wayland spin. But, it is more of a Fedora installer than an independent distro.
Every Fork starts out like that though eh ?
UM will develop it's own identity ^_^
10:26 no. what if they did nothing just backed new distro based fedora. thats basic terminal with basic setting from fedora LOL and only you need kernel and busubox to start own linux
xrandr isn't part of xorg itself but of the utils, so it doesn't usually ship with the barebone display server installation.
As for finding out whether you run X11 or Wayland, just do an "echo $WAYLAND_DISPLAY" and see if the variable exists. It should output something like "wayland-0" if the system is using Wayland as its main display server.
Note that systems that use Wayland over X11 do exist. Those will usually set the variable to "wayland-99"
This was my first distro that didn't have xrandr installed ootb
@@TheLinuxCast That's not surprising. Most Desktop Environments call xrandr to set the resolution and probe display devices (not a fan, TBH. I know executing/piping in external applications is the mythical "Unix Way™" but it's a whole lot less clean than establishing decent APIs or even just calling a shared object)
Kororra vibes!
If you took all of the "Things to do after installing Fedora" videos and websites and did all the best of those, you'd have Ultramarine.
Matt you won't get anything other than the Cutefish Edition other than the bare minimum because Cutefish is sadly D.O.A.(arrival) butl I put it on a kids computer and they love it. He said altering is the best version of two fish that I have seen. And with all versions of Linux you can pretty much do whatever you need to do, It all depends on how much time you're willing to invest to do it.
the most infamous quote from everyone eh i made my password strong enough .
Nobody :
The password : IM ONLY 3 CHARACTERS MAKE ME LONGER
Ultra marine Linux = fedora with rpm fusion and additional DEs
No SNAP PACKS, No FOS ^_^
No SNAP PACKS, No FOS ^_^
Why did I think this was based on CBL-Mariner? Lol
It is an odd name. When I saw the logo I thought it was based on solus.
Matt if you didn't see on boot it said the password was PASS lol yes all caps I don't have a clue why but eh :)
I didn't see that, though I wasn't looking for it, tbh. I set the Vm up and left it running then came back to it locked.
Nice, I will try this one, thanks.
The issue I had with it was that installing it as dual boot via manual partitioning along another debian distro was that it was not recognizing the other SSD and HDD data. It might have been an omission or lack of knowledge on my side regarding some terminal setup for this but.. Anaconda installer is just a pain in the ass anyway. I can't wait for their installer to come out and give it a try again.
Installing Nvidia drivers by using their Shop GUI was not really working well - this might be the only con.
Overall I was pleased to see RPM enabled out of the box and that it was really fast and snappy even in virtualbox. Using Pantheon is a huge bonus.
Someone must make an window 10 version of Windows Subsystem for Linux script version for the compiling Gentoo!
Or just install Linux.
There is already, it's called distrod
@@vxllvxn thanks I'm an planning to building an Gentoo system within windows 10 befored windows 10 support stops since I don't want to sell My msi gaming laptop since I bought it for playing Mass effect Andromeda PC edition at maximum at 1080!
@MatZ laptop without tpm! I have window 10pro with still useful until GeForce is unsupported drivings with the Nvidia update steam for Linux , good laptops waste of money since I only purchased to Play PC version of Mass effect Andromeda at 1080p at ultra setting that I pre-ordered at origin by ea!
@@christenorio9555 you can bypass Windows 11 check if you're gonna try it via regedit
Warhammer 40k?... 🤔😏
When you were looking at the file manager for Cutefish and commenting that there was no 'About' screen I couldn't help but wonder why you didn't navigate to the top bar and look under Help. I was also surprised you didn't do an echo "$XDG_SESSION_TYPE" to figure out if you were using X or Wayland...
Check wayland display is set
I would be very surprised if a third of the time you suspect a virtual machine problem, it would really be a virtual machine problem.
VMs create a lot of problems
I like to give them the benefit of the doubt.
Cutefish= mac os de… dont get me wrong i dont hate it but its a fisher price de compared to plain kde
Linux as a community has a ton of stuff that solves problems in the same exact way as a million other solutions. Even building the exact same thing from the same source files with only a name to difference them.
I think that's because a large portion of the community is here only to build things and tinker. They're not really solving a problem. They're playing at their hobby with their friends.
Which is fine. No problem. I hope they're having fun.
I use Linux for work as my daily driver. Fedora Workstation since 2017 ish I think. I watch TH-cam videos on obscure distros and browse the internet looking at Linux apps and packages I have no intention of using ever Just for fun. There are some really clever people out there.
I also hang out with my friends and shit on the dumb stuff and make fun of Windows. Not the people who use different tech. To each their own. Just the OS and apps. Not the users fault Microsoft is evil.
Matt great vid, but Ultramarine not for me.
“ if it was actually installed, if it was actually using Wayland, I don’t actually…”. Fantastic use of the useless word “actually”!!!!
Here's a guy whose never misspoken before.
@@TheLinuxCast Never said that, but three uses of that meaningless word in just a few seconds might be a record. Take out that word and the meaning doesn't change at all.
I don't think there's much of a difference between actually ALL distributions, because sadly they still all share the same main problems: 1. Terrible drivers (power usage, heat, hibernation, stability..) 2. Horrible multimedia qualities (media players, ac3 passthrough and such..)
When these issues finally have been resolved, then we can seriously start worrying about notes, like differing build chains, init daemons, display servers, desktops, userbase sizes and whatever ..
Why people keeps creating distros and variations instead of create a standard distro to make easy to soft companies to code their's softwares to Linux?
The discussion is always - at most - about visuals, wallpapers...
Speaking by myself, I cant migrate to Linux just because Adobe still don't look to Linux. And why? They say its because of market share and so many different distros out there.
Like me, a lot of people must not be able to migrate to Linux because of the one software they need still is not native to the system.
Final users like me don't care about most of this things. We care about what we can do using the system. We most care about wich softwares we can use in it.
Linux may never have a bigger market share being "so diverse".
To me is more logical joying forces and become closer to the software creators.
Because that's how Linux is, Linux is Free and Open Source Software meaning anyone can create their own Distro. With Linux you're free to choose whatever fits your needs, unlike the proprietary Windows where you don't have that choice, for example if you don't like Windows 10 then you'll have to choose from either the outdated Windows 7 or an even worse proprietary OS which is Windows 11.
@@KatyushaLauncher, Also, Not everyone wantr to create a whole new thing from scratch ;)
Seems to me that the creators or UM really like Fedora &only wanted to mold it into something a bit better :)
No SNAPS/FOS being forced upon us ETC.
Archcraft!!!!!!!!
"Not a great UX"
Bro, it's still in development
It also mentioned in the manuals
Just because something is in development doesn't mean it can't be commented on. I don't understand why criticism is so bad for something that is in beta? Is it not the point of a beta to get feedback? Apparently not.
@@TheLinuxCast
Well That's the thing, that part which you mentioned was Not a great user experience, was something that was part of the manuals, or iirc, a part of the installation process.
I think this kind of thing happens in Debian too, I know it happens especially Raspberry Pi OS (which is a fork of Debian), where you're literally not told the default password is "root", even in the installation - and that's a fully released stable distro basically in production
I'm not saying criticism is bad, but it's the fact that it's in development, you should not bring in criticism that sounds like you're comparing it to being a stable release.
That's what I feel at least. A beta build can always be moved back to an Alpha build so unless it's a release candidate build, I'll not assume it's potentially the status the distro will release in.
Try not to be so overly protective BTW, that last part is clearly not what I'm saying and makes you look insusceptible to criticism, to be honest
I still dont see why people like how Cutefish looks. To me it looks like a bloated tablet interface on every distro. Which I dont find intuitive to use.