Great video, I recently also started playing a little more docked and so must say so was quite blown away in some cases. I don’t understand the Cyberpunk in game FSR results. Shouldn’t they be on par or similar to the gamescope FSR? Is it just a bad implementation of FSR? What are the factors there? How come 4K and 720p have such a slight difference?
I believe it's because of the different render resolutions. With in-game FSR, performance mode is ~1080p, which similar to 1080p with gamescope. I probably could have worded the chart better @3:12
Honestly for what you're getting, a PC/Switch with long lasting battery, it is worth it especially for those who are on a tighter budget and need to choose between console gaming and PC gaming
Not sure if it's the graphs or the comparison but your understanding of FSR and how it impacts performance may be a bit off here. FSR does not and is not intended to increase performance at the same resolution & settings between full screen (auto-scaled) and FSR scaled windowed mode. The goal of FSR is to increase visual fidelity at a lower render scale, letting you achieve the FPS gains of that render size with graphics that appear to be a higher resolution. As an example: - 1080p full screen native = 40fps - 720p full screen native = 55fps - 720p FSR (rendered at 720p and scaled to 1080p) = 50fps, _but looks better than 720p full screen native_ The reason 720p FSR may be lower fps than 720 native is because of the FSR scaling computation. Effectively, FSR turns into another quality nob here that turns _up_ quality at 720p rendering at the cost of some performance, but typically less than increasing resolution to the next notch.
yo, just letting u know I appreciate the FSR explanation my man 👍 Could I get your opinion on the SDeck for 1080p gaming? Considering it for when I travel to hook up to a 1080p hotel TV
Awesome video, didn't know I could unlock this potential with the deck, portable play just got more exciting lol, Also anyway to turn the over lay in the top left off or a toggle key to hide it?
Good video! I'm a bit confused though. I thought FSR was supposed to increase performance? In CyberPunk for example, 720p low = 41 fps, 720p low FSR performance = 19 fps. Why would I use FSR?
Can play games in 1080p/30 fps with the same smooth of ps4/Xbox 360 but mods and more same a one PC? With mods I refer Fallout 4/Skyrim xd Van play games of epic games, gog games, ubisoft games, etc? Resident evil 4 / Elden ring 1080p /30 fps same smooth of consoles?
Great video. Quick question are you able to play FH5 without the hack to get fullscreen. I still open mine and its a black screen and have to do the fullscreen remap hack.
I'm confused about the point of the dock when it comes to gaming. Sure, the desktop and web browsing looks nice in 2k/4k but what's the point of playing games when you have to play in such low resolution. For some crazy reason I thought I could easily play games on my Deck on my TV in at least 2k/60fps no problem. That's not the case...MW2019 played around 30-35fps and ran like crap. Maybe I set my expectations too high but when you read "4k/60hz gaming" you think you're gonna get something decent...but then again, its a little hand held, why would I think I could play in 2k/4k at 60-120fps
When in docked mode on a 32 inch UHD screen, what resolution do you think is best. Currently I'm using 1920*1080 at medium settings but at some points it feels like the game is pushing the deck to it's limit.
@@dabwizard2067 yeah I can't find anything either. I haven't had a chance to test it myself. But honestly, running games at whatever they're already set to on the deck (to avoid switching graphics settings back and forth) really isn't too bad. Playing on a 4k TV, most games I tried looked fine. Worst of the lot was Insurgency Sandstorm.
@@JayD_5446 i was just playing ride 4 docked doing a motocross event, set the game and the deck resolution to my 4k tv and it honestly looked good, not a huge fan of 25-35fps but then again coming from a built desktop to a handheld is a big jump
I have questions about material and if it'll leave residue on my hands? Is this silicone or carbon fiber I don't like residue on my hands? I noticed it said rubber in middle of dock? Do you also recommend it?
@@TheTerk I hope that this 45w charger, the one that comes with the steam when we bought it, I hope that it doesn’t drain while on dock, cuz I’m still waiting for the dock the I ordered Thx for the info btw
@@TheTerk I hope that this 45w charger, the one that comes with the steam when we bought it, I hope that it doesn’t drain while on dock, cuz I’m still waiting for the dock the I ordered Thx for the info btw
man ur advice about turning OFF automatic resolution for Dock settings and putting games on Native was AMAZING!! before i did that all my games on TV had the upper and lower black letterbox annoying thing and now its truly full screen! sooo good.
Great video, I recently also started playing a little more docked and so must say so was quite blown away in some cases. I don’t understand the Cyberpunk in game FSR results. Shouldn’t they be on par or similar to the gamescope FSR? Is it just a bad implementation of FSR? What are the factors there? How come 4K and 720p have such a slight difference?
I believe it's because of the different render resolutions. With in-game FSR, performance mode is ~1080p, which similar to 1080p with gamescope. I probably could have worded the chart better @3:12
Honestly for what you're getting, a PC/Switch with long lasting battery, it is worth it especially for those who are on a tighter budget and need to choose between console gaming and PC gaming
Sorry, i didnt get the video, should I use 720p in game settings on a 4k tv? Or where should I set 720p to?
Not sure if it's the graphs or the comparison but your understanding of FSR and how it impacts performance may be a bit off here.
FSR does not and is not intended to increase performance at the same resolution & settings between full screen (auto-scaled) and FSR scaled windowed mode.
The goal of FSR is to increase visual fidelity at a lower render scale, letting you achieve the FPS gains of that render size with graphics that appear to be a higher resolution.
As an example:
- 1080p full screen native = 40fps
- 720p full screen native = 55fps
- 720p FSR (rendered at 720p and scaled to 1080p) = 50fps, _but looks better than 720p full screen native_
The reason 720p FSR may be lower fps than 720 native is because of the FSR scaling computation. Effectively, FSR turns into another quality nob here that turns _up_ quality at 720p rendering at the cost of some performance, but typically less than increasing resolution to the next notch.
yo, just letting u know I appreciate the FSR explanation my man 👍 Could I get your opinion on the SDeck for 1080p gaming? Considering it for when I travel to hook up to a 1080p hotel TV
How to open quick access menu with keyboard on Dock game mode ?
Man where was this vid when I was trying out docked mode
Awesome video, didn't know I could unlock this potential with the deck, portable play just got more exciting lol, Also anyway to turn the over lay in the top left off or a toggle key to hide it?
Really impressive stats from basically a linux PC emulating Windows, a few more years and your desktop PC will fit in your hands.
oke maybe i build pc for started, 720p for stable fps make my eye sick if look on monitor, but if on steam deck its ok
Good video! I'm a bit confused though. I thought FSR was supposed to increase performance? In CyberPunk for example, 720p low = 41 fps, 720p low FSR performance = 19 fps. Why would I use FSR?
check the pinned comment - that chart specifically could have been made better.
@@TheTerk cool, sorry I missed that!
Can play games in 1080p/30 fps with the same smooth of ps4/Xbox 360 but mods and more same a one PC?
With mods I refer Fallout 4/Skyrim xd
Van play games of epic games, gog games, ubisoft games, etc?
Resident evil 4 / Elden ring 1080p /30 fps same smooth of consoles?
Great video. Quick question are you able to play FH5 without the hack to get fullscreen. I still open mine and its a black screen and have to do the fullscreen remap hack.
Thanks to you, it was a good reference for my system setup
I'm confused about the point of the dock when it comes to gaming. Sure, the desktop and web browsing looks nice in 2k/4k but what's the point of playing games when you have to play in such low resolution. For some crazy reason I thought I could easily play games on my Deck on my TV in at least 2k/60fps no problem. That's not the case...MW2019 played around 30-35fps and ran like crap. Maybe I set my expectations too high but when you read "4k/60hz gaming" you think you're gonna get something decent...but then again, its a little hand held, why would I think I could play in 2k/4k at 60-120fps
do cyberpunk docked again, it's improved a lot
When in docked mode on a 32 inch UHD screen, what resolution do you think is best. Currently I'm using 1920*1080 at medium settings but at some points it feels like the game is pushing the deck to it's limit.
It depends on the game. You might want to drop down to 720p or use FSR Performance mode
I've ran games at 1440p 120fps with no issues at all. resident evil 2 and 3 run like a dream on high settings when docked
Can u update this video?
How you like that dock thinking of picking it up over the valve dock I don’t wanna pay almost $100 for a dock.
It's pretty decent. I would have preferred the network cable out the back
But if we use the native res, won't that destroy the Deck's performance??
That’s my main concern. Can’t seem to find any info I’ve been on the prowl for days.
@@dabwizard2067 yeah I can't find anything either. I haven't had a chance to test it myself. But honestly, running games at whatever they're already set to on the deck (to avoid switching graphics settings back and forth) really isn't too bad. Playing on a 4k TV, most games I tried looked fine. Worst of the lot was Insurgency Sandstorm.
@@JayD_5446 i was just playing ride 4 docked doing a motocross event, set the game and the deck resolution to my 4k tv and it honestly looked good, not a huge fan of 25-35fps but then again coming from a built desktop to a handheld is a big jump
I have questions about material and if it'll leave residue on my hands? Is this silicone or carbon fiber I don't like residue on my hands? I noticed it said rubber in middle of dock? Do you also recommend it?
The fuck is a "negative" resolution?
I just wonder, if we pit them on dock, the battery wont drain right? Just like on switch
As long as your charger is strong enough, it should charge, not just run. I've had good luck with the stock charger and laptop 65W chargers
@@TheTerk
I hope that this 45w charger, the one that comes with the steam when we bought it, I hope that it doesn’t drain while on dock, cuz I’m still waiting for the dock the I ordered
Thx for the info btw
@@TheTerk
I hope that this 45w charger, the one that comes with the steam when we bought it, I hope that it doesn’t drain while on dock, cuz I’m still waiting for the dock the I ordered
Thx for the info btw
man ur advice about turning OFF automatic resolution for Dock settings and putting games on Native was AMAZING!!
before i did that all my games on TV had the upper and lower black letterbox annoying thing and now its truly full screen! sooo good.
I'm glad that helped you out!