The New Puritans: How the religion of social justice captured the western world

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  • In this excellent discussion, filmed by WORLDwrite volunteers at the Battle of Ideas festival in October 2022, Andrew Doyle introduces us to his insightful new book and discusses it with Professor Frank Furedi.
    The Puritans of the seventeenth century sought to refashion society in accordance with their own beliefs, but they were deep thinkers who were aware of their own fallibility. In The New Puritans: how the religion of social justice captured the Western world, Andrew Doyle examines the underlying belief-systems of this ideology. How has it risen so rapidly to dominate all major political, cultural and corporate institutions? Do we need a better understanding of where these new puritans came from and what they hope to achieve? Can we - as Doyle urges - develop a spirit of optimism in making the case for the reinstatement of liberal values?
    Speakers:
    Andrew Doyle -presenter, Free Speech Nation, GB News; writer and comedian; author, The New Puritans: how the religion of social justice captured the Western world and Free Speech and Why It Matters
    Professor Frank Furedi - sociologist and social commentator; author, The Road to Ukraine: how the West lost its way and 100 Years of Identity Crisis: culture war over socialisation
    Help the charity WORLDwrite film further vital debates by hitting the THANKS button on TH-cam or donate to the charity's latest project via our JustGiving page at www.justgiving.com/campaign/s.... Thank you.

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  • @lirands2730
    @lirands2730 ปีที่แล้ว +92

    ANDREW DOYLE is one of the most important voices of clarity to reach most people. He should be shared all the time.

    • @sistermary
      @sistermary ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Couldn't agree more

    • @browndoc
      @browndoc ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Agreed. Sitting here in Ireland waiting for someone to pipe up. The silent majority in fear and a media giving no-one of an opinion that contradicts that of their hijacked corporations a platform. Plus we need someone here who's able to speak clearly and effectively about it. Someone that people feel confident enough to get behind. It's creeping in fast with no resistance, into every aspect of our society. But I something's got to give eventually and there will be that backlash (as I type into the void of optimistic despair)

    • @rjohndonahue8262
      @rjohndonahue8262 ปีที่แล้ว

      1000%

    • @sandpiper9288
      @sandpiper9288 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The fact that there are things are happening with the establishment in 2023 that are comparable to the Salem Witch Trials of 1692 is just testament to how pathetic mankind is and the public are guilty of everything. It was their duty to guide these things and force the government's hand when necessary. The public have failed miserably because they are stupid selfish moronic peasant scum. The vast majority of people only care about celebrities and dancing and getting drunk. And they breed like rats. Mankind wants nothing but mindless cubicle workers, so that's what they reproduce. And each generation ruins the genetics further and further, making unnatural humans, like deformed dog breeds that can't even breath, we are now a species that can't even function and is incapable of thinking its way out of any problems.

    • @CrystalShadow
      @CrystalShadow หลายเดือนก่อน

      💯💯💯

  • @tspinnh
    @tspinnh ปีที่แล้ว +97

    Always great to hear Mr. Doyle speak. So articulate and to the point.

  • @beamanact
    @beamanact ปีที่แล้ว +28

    This is the most cogent and persuasive I've seen Mr. Doyle in a public forum and this is in large part because of the insights added to the conversation from Professor Furedi: a brilliant pairing, getting to the heart of this twisted movement we're grappling with. Having grown up one town over from Salem, MA, I think Doyle's Witch Hysteria comparison is apt. I often refer to a Twilight Zone episode called "It's a Good Life" in which a 5 year old boy with supernatural powers holds his family and community in terror. Everyone is terrified of doing something or saying something that will anger this tot-- smiling and sweating and stepping around him. If he's "triggered" by whatever he perceives as BAD, he points at the malfeasant and screams, "You're bad! You're very bad!" at which point he transforms the object of his ire into something grotesque and then sends them "to the cornfield" never to be seen again. I refer to cancel culture as "the cornfield." The only way this destructive, shrill, anti-intellectual nonsense will end is if a critical mass of people say NO MORE. Reasonable people, most of whom are against this stuff but are afraid to speak out, are THE MAJORITY. We need to remember that.

    • @batkinssmart4273
      @batkinssmart4273 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Andrew Doyle is indeed cogent and persuasive, a joy to listen to.
      But I've checked out several of the specific examples he quotes, and he does seem prone to exaggeration, which is a shame.
      The American School in London did go astray with its niche after-school clubs and slanted curriculum, but the school inspectors got it back on track pretty quickly. The current Ofsted report says it has now righted itself almost completely. The New Zealand proposals to teach traditional Maori knowledge were NOT to teach it as part of science classes. The "segregated parents' meetings in different classrooms" in Brentwood school, LA, were in fact Zoom meetings, where an over-zealous person made staff and parents into groups by race - and these were abandoned almost immediately.
      He would be more persuasive if he didn't distort the actual facts every time.

    • @memoryhero
      @memoryhero 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      let's assume straight away Andrew Doyle exaggerates. none of the things you mentioned are evidence of that. there may be evidence of it - again, none of what you mentioned would be it.@@batkinssmart4273

  • @MelissaKnoxwriter
    @MelissaKnoxwriter ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Common sense is so uncommon these days. Andrew Doyle provides bucketfuls of it, brilliantly. Thank you, Andrew Doyle.

    • @natb9919
      @natb9919 ปีที่แล้ว

      Because the only "common senses" are the 5 senses. There is no universal knowing called "common sense". That's the mistake people make, that all people have a common "knowing" or "sense". They don't, some do, but it's not universal. Even in different cultures, what people commonly "know" or have a "common sense" about is different.

  • @saltburner2
    @saltburner2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I live in hope of Dr. Andrew Doyle (MA, DPhil, Oxon) becoming Vice Chancellor of his Alma Mater.

  • @janmariolle
    @janmariolle ปีที่แล้ว +83

    I was pleased to see Andy Ngo share the violent reality of Antifa in the US. This was a fantastic panel and I appreciate you posting it for viewers around the world. The UK is leading the pushback against this ideology. KJK was here recently with Let Women Speak. She has lit a fire under our butts. What a proud legacy the UK has!

    • @conrad152
      @conrad152 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Amen sister !

    • @lizzylass4805
      @lizzylass4805 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      the uk is the leading pushback? i beg to differ!

    • @jayjaydubful
      @jayjaydubful ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Where do you think leads the pushback? England has so far resisted gender self ID where a depressing number of countries have caved (although I think at the next general election all our work will be for naught)

    • @Messier45_Pleiades
      @Messier45_Pleiades ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The United Kingdom is indeed leading the fight against wokism. Thank God for the brave women fighting transgender madness.

    • @fairislecat6413
      @fairislecat6413 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@jayjaydubful this is where I think we need to step up and highlight the insane gender ideology capture of the opposition parties. I'm looking forward to KJK giving Starmer a run for his money. I think it's time to really campaign to get GI out of the NHS this year too.

  • @Mark-hc8ek
    @Mark-hc8ek ปีที่แล้ว +32

    If they can convince you to believe in absurdities they can convince you to commit atrocities.

    • @KayE9
      @KayE9 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Spot on! The invention of "trans kids" among other things, proves it

    • @paulo1787
      @paulo1787 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Coerced more than convinced

    • @jeffaddis5715
      @jeffaddis5715 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      very well said

  • @dawnemile7499
    @dawnemile7499 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    When I know more than "the experts" I recognize that our education system is in disarray.

  • @rosemaryalles6043
    @rosemaryalles6043 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Andrew is brilliant and lovely and funny.💕🙏🏽🐘

    • @KayE9
      @KayE9 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Agree! Very down to earth, he makes the subject interesting and accessible.

  • @brandankelly4069
    @brandankelly4069 ปีที่แล้ว +41

    Absolutely brilliant conversation. With public discussions such as these there is yet hope for common sense and reason to prevail. Many thanks.

  • @ewajustka
    @ewajustka 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    watching this gives me hope in humanity. the world needs more of you being outspoken please! especially within the arts.

  • @garyweglarz
    @garyweglarz ปีที่แล้ว +34

    What a strange world we've created in which to be - "woke" - essentially means to be so deeply asleep that one is literally disconnected from material reality itself.

    • @darev6780
      @darev6780 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      It's amazing isn't it 😂😂

    • @sandpiper9288
      @sandpiper9288 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      It was by design. And the wokes are not guilty, they are society's dummies and should have been protected against extremism by a decently run society. But society is not decently run because the non-wokes failed so miserably. The majority of people are worthless, lazy, selfish pieces of shit. Incapable of anything good. Just glorified cubicle workers. So if a large percentage of society are dumb, and another large percentage are worthless scum, and another large percentage are evil and malicious and looking to make others suffer and help themselves at any cost.... then what percentage is left to actually fight its way out of this? One that's too small, that's what. Mankind has fucked its own destiny.

  • @KiRichardTaylor
    @KiRichardTaylor ปีที่แล้ว +28

    Academia has always had it's fair share of "out there" thinking.
    But back in the day only around 12% of the population were exposed to higher education. The circa 88% went straight in to the world of work and survival between ages 16-18 and dealt with the realities of life.
    The transition to 50% of folk now going in to higher education, and huge expansion of the university sector across the western world, seems to correlate with the explosion of bonkers initiatives and ideas.

  • @pumpkinpaper
    @pumpkinpaper ปีที่แล้ว +50

    If they can coerce you into saying words they've made up as if they were real and to say things that you know to not be true, as if they were...they win.

    • @Microphunktv-jb3kj
      @Microphunktv-jb3kj ปีที่แล้ว +4

      ,,, and americans do believe...
      in soviet union people played along.. but noone were brainwashed in what nightmare they are living in
      (atleast not in estonia)

    • @chrisbaxter3597
      @chrisbaxter3597 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Language is power - it’s about making people conform - if you don’t use the correct language then you will be cast out

    • @marilynloftin9225
      @marilynloftin9225 ปีที่แล้ว

      Satan is a deceiver, and the author of lies. Reject God, and He will turn you over to Satan

  • @paulbadics3500
    @paulbadics3500 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Hearing questions of the young people gives me some hope..they will be the ones to save us

  • @steveb3881
    @steveb3881 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Extremely interesting. Andrew Doyle is always good. His latest book is superb.

  • @garym6315
    @garym6315 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I always say that this sort of thing started with reality TV. With the introduction of Big Brother on TV you were suddenly telling couch potatoes that their views matter and they could very literally vote away the person they hated most. They were judging people's level of niceness or nastiness based on seeing them on TV for a few hours. Then we got social media and that just enhanced that idea that everyone's opinion mattered and enhanced the notion of judging complete strangers based on superficial evidence. So now we have online platforms for a generation who think it's their moral duty to judge others and instead of voting them off a TV show they try to vote them off of life by cancelling them. We need to regress slightly by removing that online platform for people vent their opinions and judgements of others. Without an online presence, this minority would mean nothing.

    • @DarkAngel2512
      @DarkAngel2512 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Excellent observation. It was then compounded in social media with debate pages and the "like" feature and "laugh" reacts. People were wiring themselves to take positions on EVERYTHING. It makes people binary in thinking and polarised. It's why people cant hang out with their mates anymore for having a diff view on something.
      I sometimes think if they removed comments sections it might help but then we wouldnt be able to correct the misinformation the establishment pushes. I prob wouldnt have redpilled on certain things without comments sections. Maybe social media might be the thing that helps us out of this as woke culture may have been an inevitable outcome without social media but would have happened more gradually and we may have not noticed it creep up. With it sped up we can see the idiocy of it and attack it quickly, hopefully. Sadly with many casualties in the process.

  • @tirisu3635
    @tirisu3635 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    A discussion that needed to happen and that, hopefully, will seriously spread in the western world. We all need to be courageous and, yes, humble to help it along. Thank you

  • @lemoncrash1814
    @lemoncrash1814 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Fun fact: one theory on the Salem hysteria is a fungus called rye ergot, which turns hallucinogenic when baked into bread, might have caused the mass hysteria.

  • @roxee57
    @roxee57 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    The point about the indoctrination of kids was the most important I think. We can work as hard as necessary to persuade our current elites, especially our political elites, to stop being cowards & enforce the law, but if we do nothing about the indoctrination of kids it will be all for naught as successive tsunamis of the indoctrinated enter adulthood and sweep everything before it. We need to reform the rules of how we teach the teachers, urgently.

    • @j.r.3981
      @j.r.3981 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You want to indoctrinate kids. People like you usually have a sexual interest in children. Most pedophiles identify as conservative.

    • @ac27934
      @ac27934 ปีที่แล้ว

      Agreed. It's the Red Guards of the Chinese Cultural Revolution waiting to happen all over again.

  • @jonb4020
    @jonb4020 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    A phenomenally cogent and very necessary discussion.

  • @GreyWolfLeaderTW
    @GreyWolfLeaderTW ปีที่แล้ว +18

    Should also be noted that the Salem Witch Trials ended because the Governor of Massachusetts of the time, Sir William Phips, explicitly cited the Bible and pointed out that the trials were breaking basic principles of Ancient Hebrew Law that they had adopted as followers of Christ in the theocratic Massachusetts colony. Things like, "Requiring two witnesses having collaborating testimonies to support any claim", "The accused having the right to confront the claims of his/her accusers", and so on.

  • @melissajones5985
    @melissajones5985 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I loved the panel and host. Was also impressed by the audience questions, particularly the man who brought up the changing language in cricket.

  • @markusstewart9298
    @markusstewart9298 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Hot damn!!
    Well said, and we’ll presented!

  • @peacemaker6662
    @peacemaker6662 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Some years ago I decribed this woke stuff as a 'dictionary war'. Needless to say it didn't gain much traction then but it encourages me to hear Andrew basically describe it as such.

  • @user-yc4dc2fs5n
    @user-yc4dc2fs5n ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Frank Furedi's comment about how "for the last 30 years" people have been speaking about/hoping for the end of this so-called "fad" made me realize with a shock that it's actually been 42 years since I was introduced to it as an English major at Cornell---a campus rife with Deconstructionists, where i was assigned to attend every lecture by visitors like Derrida and Foucault. Wow, time flies.

  • @marionreynolds7080
    @marionreynolds7080 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Prof Dennis Hayes wrote a critique 15 years ago entitled The Rise and Rise of Therapeutic Education which described the current culture in academia which contained many references to ‘vulnerability’. It was clear that confident and curious children were regarded as outsiders who had no contributory role to offer in the class room.

  • @craighart9278
    @craighart9278 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Andrew Doyle brought me here - subscribed.

  • @tupacalypse88
    @tupacalypse88 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    new puritans that's a fascinating comparison

  • @tartuttest
    @tartuttest ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Long time fan of Andrew, new fan of Ferudi as a result of listening to this intellectual discussion. Former resident of Andover, great books have been written with modern theories about how the mania spread and held throughout the Puritan colony. Legal system infiltration is the frightening thing today as it was then--e.g. Andrew at 36-38 min in.

  • @iiiiiiiiiiii90000000
    @iiiiiiiiiiii90000000 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I preordered this book and so excited to receive it

  • @alexiamunizb
    @alexiamunizb ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Always love what Doyle has to share and his openness towards true discussion. Would suggest organizers to request questions from the audience as opposed to long opinions.

  • @dawnemile7499
    @dawnemile7499 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Fighting back seems to have lost favour with the people who should have the courage to do so.

  • @ianmatlock1
    @ianmatlock1 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What a wonderful and insightful hour

  • @user-ll8mt4so4l
    @user-ll8mt4so4l 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Excellent discussion. Mansize tissues come to mind

  • @ed7519
    @ed7519 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Share these important videos with your friends and families!

  • @TheWhitehiker
    @TheWhitehiker ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Andrew on the beam--with flips and graceful turns!
    Frank's perceptions defeat the wokerites.

  • @jayjaydubful
    @jayjaydubful ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Why are we not getting the responses to the questions?

  • @frenchenstein
    @frenchenstein ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Awesome video👍🏽

  • @charlycole7850
    @charlycole7850 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    We better do all the legal cases quickly now.

  • @sebastianforbes1
    @sebastianforbes1 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    an excellent, most rational, debate...

  • @mikegray8776
    @mikegray8776 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Excellent presentations, as you would expect from Andrew and Frank - BUT why have a Q & A session with no A’s ??
    Giving the microphone to an endless stream of opinionated self-regarding attention seekers (often at very tedious length) without addressing any points made, seems a fairly pointless exercise.
    Comments -if short and concise - are perfectly valid - but why then form every point as a question …. to then ignore it.

  • @GreyWolfLeaderTW
    @GreyWolfLeaderTW ปีที่แล้ว +10

    This is indeed a Religion.
    What is Religion?
    Encyclopedia Britannica defines Religion as: "The relationship between human beings and that which they consider sacred, holy, or the absolute turth...Often encompassing beliefs regarding the origin of humanity and the universe, the purpose of both's existence, and the ultimate fate of both humanity and the universe."
    "Social Justice" holds "The "holy" victimized proletariat" (it is fundamentally Marxist in origin) as its deity. It's not a traditional humanist religion like Christianity, because it explicitly divides humans into sacred and demonic factions, excluding a portion of humanity it deems irredeemably evil, not to mention it puts its environmentalist beliefs (that put the value of the planet above the lives of individual human beings) up there too.

    • @friedchicken4735
      @friedchicken4735 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The dictionary will just change the definition again

    • @matthewscott4629
      @matthewscott4629 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Just like feminism

  • @normanshadow1
    @normanshadow1 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent discussion.

  • @jenna2431
    @jenna2431 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    We're starting to see the tide turn, thank goodness. More just need to stand down the "specters" and the cult will die.

  • @leyeopejin6660
    @leyeopejin6660 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    All Liberal arts students (if those still exist today😢) must watch/write a paper on this

  • @davidr9876
    @davidr9876 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ty

  • @gillhughes6644
    @gillhughes6644 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    mischaracterising this as between the left and right - you are so correct Andrew. And I hate it when people say it is the feminists who argue that gender can be equated with sex and silly arguments like that. It is not the feminist movement per se. And they talk about feminists versus conservatives (in America anyway) and the conservatives are the only ones who see sense. Well, I am a feminist socialist, and I damn well know the difference between sex and gender and i know that second wave feminists fought against gender stereotyping then - so it is hardly feminists who now assert that gender trumps sex.

    • @mikegray8776
      @mikegray8776 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Too much talk these days about the term ’gender’ which has always meant precisely the same thing as ‘sex’, until louche French sociologists, 3rd wave feminists, and airhead American faux-academics got hold of it, and mangled it beyond reasonable recognition.
      There is Sex/Gender and there is Sexuality/Personality. That’s it. One is strictly biological and binary, the other describes a state of mind which is complex, but wholly irrelevant to anyone other than the person arriving at that subjective self-determination.

  • @ribeirojorge5064
    @ribeirojorge5064 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I seriously believe that these people are afraid of Someone who has Compromising Information that could completely ruin their reputation and that are using them as puppets.

    • @DieFlabbergast
      @DieFlabbergast ปีที่แล้ว

      What -- all of them!? What planet do you live on? This is the sort of conspiracy theory that would be too far out even for Alex Jones.

    • @ribeirojorge5064
      @ribeirojorge5064 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DieFlabbergast the Biden laptop is just an clear example... You would also say that sexual abuse in parishes and religious teaching institutions is just a conspiracy... until you realize that they are much more institutional practices than we imagine... I could be generalizing... yes... but the guilt and the shame have always been and are excellent occult weapons of domination and subjugation... and calling conspiracy theories... is inverting reality... conspiring is as old as the Human Being.
      From the Unconscious Hell ❤️
      To the Conscious Hell 💚
      Until the Paradise of Consciousness 💜

    • @ribeirojorge5064
      @ribeirojorge5064 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DieFlabbergastand if I'm completely wrong... the other possibility always remains... that is very stupid, sick and malevolent people... hahahahahaha

  • @DarkAngel2512
    @DarkAngel2512 ปีที่แล้ว

    I am glad he said "the last 12 years" because that's when I pinpointed this all stemming from

    • @johnflavin1602
      @johnflavin1602 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Around the same time the smart phone was invented, no coincidence.

    • @DarkAngel2512
      @DarkAngel2512 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@johnflavin1602 that too along with social media bringing in Timeline and the ability to see all your friends effed up views and getting drawn into controversial threads they're on.

  • @likklej8
    @likklej8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I call it revisionism. Maybe like Kurt Vonnegut’s Handicapper General if some one is very beautiful they have to wear a brown paper bag so if you aren’t in the so beautiful person group you don’t feel bad.

  • @allyourbase888
    @allyourbase888 ปีที่แล้ว

    Andy!! 🙌🏾

  • @dawnemile7499
    @dawnemile7499 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    The problem is that tolerance has become permissiveness.

  • @Happyheretic2308
    @Happyheretic2308 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great discussion, but wanted to say what a beautiful voice the “chap with all the hair” has.

  • @isabelrice4494
    @isabelrice4494 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So informative. Thank you.

  • @mikewilcox5284
    @mikewilcox5284 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Andrew might I suggust you draw a connection between mew puritanism and neoliberalism,. Fredrick von Hayek (arguabky the founder of neoliberalism) called the concepts of equity and social justice suoerstitions and myths or as he said 'like believing in witches'. Are these cultural developments then a reaction to a neoliberal economice sydtem which at its core does not rely on equity and social justice?

  • @mjm5081
    @mjm5081 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I fear that the ship has sailed and those who have charted its course consider Logic, Reason, and Common Sense nonessential cargo.

  • @micksc1
    @micksc1 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This is not Q and A this is simply statements

    • @excellentcomment
      @excellentcomment ปีที่แล้ว

      Very true. I was a bit indignant at first, but then I enjoyed the thoughts of those who commented. So I've gone to the other polar extreme, and I think every seminar needs time for audience insight.
      When you least expect it, a slice of pure pro-humanity.

  • @zulkiflijamil4033
    @zulkiflijamil4033 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    this is an excellent dialogue and discussion. I am not an informed and naive person, but is there such a phrase like vegan phobia? Thank you in advance.

    • @AmanitaWoodrose
      @AmanitaWoodrose ปีที่แล้ว +3

      people stick the word 'phobia' onto any word they fancy these days, why not!

    • @DieFlabbergast
      @DieFlabbergast ปีที่แล้ว

      People who use "XX-phobia" terms don't mean it in the clinical medical sense, i.e. fear of XX. They use it to mean "hatred of XX." Thus, a "homophobe" is someone who hates gays. There ARE people who hate vegans, but they must be VERY small in number.

  • @judeross3875
    @judeross3875 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for the share. Am always reminded of the story of the sun and the wind fighting to remove the coat of a non specified human being!!

  • @presstodelete1165
    @presstodelete1165 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    We have mysoginie laws to look forward to soon, put them over the backdrop of the self ID laws and it's not hard to imagine the endless witch trials to come.

  • @CynthiaMoon23
    @CynthiaMoon23 ปีที่แล้ว

    For me, I see this in the context of the culture that was created in the 60s dying, and something replacing it. It's not a question of IF this goes away, but how much damage it does before it does. It's a cycle that all cultures go through. What will replace it is another question.

  • @Happyheretic2308
    @Happyheretic2308 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    NBphobia - fear of having things pointed out (NB = nota bene)

    • @KayE9
      @KayE9 ปีที่แล้ว

      Underrated comment!!!

  • @micksc1
    @micksc1 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    This is probably racist but i treat people as individuals

    • @KayE9
      @KayE9 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      How dare you Mick. Disgusting behaviour 🤣🤣

    • @jeffaddis5715
      @jeffaddis5715 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@KayE9 Heretic! 😜

    • @KayE9
      @KayE9 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jeffaddis5715 🤣🤣

  • @GreyWolfLeaderTW
    @GreyWolfLeaderTW ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Should be noted that "The Crucible" was written by a Social Justice Marxist Communist-Apologist type himself, Arthur Miller, who wrote the play explicitly trying to compare the hunting of witches to the Joseph McCarthy Senate Hearings seeking for communist infiltrators into the US government and military in the 1950s.
    As Elias Kazan's wife Molly Thacher (the two of them being former fellow travelers with American communists and their political parties) said, so perfectly torpedoeing Arthur Miller's pathetic attempt at comparison, "Those witches did not exist. COMMUNISTS DO. Here, and everywhere in the world. It’s a false parallel. Witch hunt! The phrase would indicate that there are no Communists in the government, none in the big trade unions, none in the press, none in the arts, none sending money from Hollywood to Twelfth Street. No one who was in the Party and left uses that phrase. They know better."

    • @plekkchand
      @plekkchand ปีที่แล้ว

      This is a valuable observation.

  • @matthewscott4629
    @matthewscott4629 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    When will people learn that ANYTHING backed by media and big money is NOT for the peoples best interest.

  • @saje239
    @saje239 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    “It’s not a gotcha question just ‘cause it got… cha.”
    -Jon Stewart on Sarah Palin
    Now it’s applicable to half the politicians in the west 😩

  • @that1chickinFL
    @that1chickinFL ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I wish moderators would do a better job of emphasizing that audience members should have *questions* not statements if they want to be at the mic.

  • @presstodelete1165
    @presstodelete1165 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    There is an argument that this is a new way of instilling fear into society. If the public are affraid you can increase your power over them just wrap it in suggar coating. The insidious part is that both sides of the devide are now frightened.

  • @wl4131
    @wl4131 ปีที่แล้ว

    I agree 100% with the woman that asked if we should ban sociology

  • @saltburner2
    @saltburner2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    'Taking the Knee' has become a bit like genuflecting before the Blessed Sacrament in Catholic (and High Anglican) churches, done even by those with no knowledge of (or belief in) the dogma of Trans-substantiation.

  • @excellentcomment
    @excellentcomment ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Date of this panel:. Oct 15 or 16, 2022

  • @sarahblaquiere3121
    @sarahblaquiere3121 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It's one thing to question and challenge our human conceptualisation of particular situations - it's quite another level to say that material realities don't exist unless humans apply language to them. Of course the phenomenon of same-sex attraction has existed for as long as humans have (longer, since it exists amongst other mammals and also birds) - that humans in different times and places have understood this phenomenon in different ways doesn't change its underlying reality. That's got to be where the line is drawn. Human concepts don't invent the material realities they describe.

  • @robertbaltha3371
    @robertbaltha3371 ปีที่แล้ว

    Everyone should read 'Die Welle' the wave, a German book and movie too.

  • @ribeirojorge5064
    @ribeirojorge5064 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love Truth above All Things ❤️
    Accept and Thank the Suffering 💚
    (from the Knowledge of Truth)
    Confront and Illuminate Malevolence 💜
    From the Unconscious Hell ❤️
    To the Conscious Hell 💚
    Until the Paradise of Consciousness 💜
    Thaaannnk Yooouuu ❤️ 💚 💜

  • @judytaquino6412
    @judytaquino6412 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The grain fungus Ergot caused various odd symptoms that the superstitious blamed on witchcraft.

  • @CheapGodiva
    @CheapGodiva ปีที่แล้ว +1

    In Salem as now, the error remains the same, listening to women.

    • @MrLibtard
      @MrLibtard ปีที่แล้ว

      This ☝️

  • @sophy4055
    @sophy4055 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    So refreshing and reassuring.

  • @mark4asp
    @mark4asp ปีที่แล้ว

    Frank says : the first use of "the personal is political" was from a 1971 book.

  • @Hiraghm
    @Hiraghm ปีที่แล้ว

    Check your premise: the very people making the accusations of "transphobia" are the same ones who say that transphobia is a bad thing. IMO, it's a natural and healthy thing.

  • @hanichay1163
    @hanichay1163 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dr. Os Guinness described our times as another Civil War with no Lincoln.

  • @purpshiso
    @purpshiso ปีที่แล้ว

    the lighting choice is funny and makes them look like they have dyed green hair 😅🤣

  • @winstonwordsmith1161
    @winstonwordsmith1161 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I very much appreciate the comments by Doyle and responders, but Fuledi is off-base here with the original meaning of "the personal is political." This is PRECISELY AN EXAMPLE OF EQUIVOCAL MEANINGS OF LANGUAGE THAT DOYLE HAS WRITTEN ABOUT.
    If Fuledi claims he supports the first five principles of the feminist movement (wherever they are--I write as a radical feminist who's pretty well read on these issues), but they're entirely "personal." Rape and battering weren't prosecuted in a marriage but laughed off, because it was "personal." Whatever that was deemed "personal" was free of any regulation by law enforcement and jurisprudence, and all things female were deemed inherently "personal." Being asked out at work by the boss (happened frequently) or professors (happened frequently) or grabbed on the behind (I punched a guy in the nose at an ACC championship party) (which happened frequently) was laughed away--it was "personal."
    You've got to comprehend that this "personal" was deconstructed, ad infinitum. And frankly, it HASN'T been worked out carefully. But what we DO know is that this initial understanding that "personal" vs "public" was used as a way to silence women; and that now, the "personal" is being used, particularly through transgender activism, as ANOTHER way to silence women.
    Doyle, I hope you see this and write me--I'm a professsional writer who'd love to sketch out some arguments for you here (gratis) as a co-author while you take the lead. Someone's got to analyze this fundamental concept, and I've been asked to by a prominent feminist online journal and simply need a partner to do so, because it's a doozy. But it needs to be clarified.
    TLDR: The personal is political as a slogan cannot be easily dismissed as the origin of the totalitarian, misogynistic, racist, homophobic social justice movement--like "equity" and "tolerance," it's another word or phrase that's been twisted through Foucauldian and po-mo thought into another means to shut women up.

    • @scythermantis
      @scythermantis ปีที่แล้ว

      OR... maybe... YOUR 'lived experience' is the filter and veil that you can't get out from behind, and so potentially the whole goal is NOT 'shutting women up' but DESTROYING the SYNTHESIS upon which the family is built (just read the Communist Manifesto) which IRONICALLY also happened through Capitalism (although not so ironic if you see them as a Materialist Dialectic) as corporations wanted to have women in the workplace and pay the workers half as much and I write this as a (former) Marxist!
      In other words, I sympathise with your experience, and those of women in general obviously (ESPECIALLY those who are discriminated against because of course companies KNOW that SOME women still want to have kids and have a family and so DON'T HIRE them if they can get away with it; they just find another person for the job who their algorithm doesn't tell them is likely to have kids in the next couple years)...
      BUT aren't lonely, often virgin men, toiling away at jobs like construction, welding, technicians, janitors, garbage collection, line workers, etc. ... isolated and invisible... isn't there ALSO an institutional oppression against them?
      Stalking and Harassment are the other side of the coin to Isolation and Neglect...
      (Yeah I know I said something provocative at that last line, but what's the point of writing if you don't have something to anchor yourself against, and try and upset the system a bit; I style myself as a writer as well, after all, and we ought to be friends)... That's just a low-rent sage's attempt at touching their bit of the elephant, after all...

    • @winstonwordsmith1161
      @winstonwordsmith1161 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@scythermantis "Stalking and Harassment are the other side of the coin to Isolation and Neglect... "
      "Isolation and Neglect" are not the opposite of "Stalking and Harrassment." Your concluding that is part of the issue. "Isolation" is an internal state of mind, and adults are not entitled to the attention of any other adult, unless they're under medical care. You appear to believe that males are entitled to something from females, instead of responsible for their own emotions and their own social state.
      There are plenty of females--especially older, or conventionally unattractive in some way--who also feel isolated, and would appreciate the attention of others, whether romantic or platonic. In addition to those feelings, they can also face harassment, stalking, ridicule, invisibility (like having their ideas repeated by men to great praise in a meeting--this is a common experience), and physical violence by men they know or don't know. 97% of sexual violence against women is committed by men; 90% of all violence is committed by men. So how is that when some men have difficult emotional lives, women are responsible for that?
      No one owes you sex. You are especially aren't owed sex by females who look like the adolescents objectified in pornography. I find it ironic that many 'incel" type men refuse to consider dating women who aren't conventionally attractive in some way, even though they themselves aren't.
      Bottom line: Give to get. Give love to get love. Work on yourself and reach out to others and relationships of all kinds will come to you. Expecting women to manage your emotions breeds resentment, mental illness, and a kind of spiritual death. Look to your Higher Power as your source, and you will radiate love and stability to others effortlessly. God bless.

    • @scythermantis
      @scythermantis ปีที่แล้ว

      @@winstonwordsmith1161 First of all, you misinterpret and ignore the meaning in what I said.
      But that is only to be expected.
      To be honest, someone like you is clearly not my target audience.
      Devoid of revolutionary impulse or consciousness, you are not useful to the praxis which must occur in order to will change which will inevitably be resisted by the system.
      Being confronted by status quo shills is to be seen as a badge of honour!
      For the record, I completely reject your interpretation of such paradigms.
      THE THREAT IS STRONGER THAN THE EXECUTION.
      Furthermore, WE SHALL SEE who in society is actually 'important' while my groups have been attempting and continuing the process of gaining control of the various 'chokepoints' in society.
      How many of these people you seem to have so much sympathy more are ACTUALLY rejected? We both know that there is a systemic imbalance, and I know this from not only my own experience, but those of many others. I was even sent a message by someone, the last I ever received, basically mocking me as an "80-year old monk who died, never having seen a woman in his life, even his mother, who was taken from him at birth."
      Well... anyways... the line workers, technicians, mechanics, plumbers, truck drivers, janitors, non-destructive technicians, etc. ... THEY are the true neglected class here.
      If colleges are 60% women now, shouldn't they be willing to be with a guy who doesn't have a college degree? Who gave them all that power? To see it as 'settling'?
      They EXIST on our BACKS!
      And by the way, I also completely reject both your statistics, and your interpretation of them.
      The statistics that I've seen indicate that ACTUALLY something around 75% of domestic violence is INITIATED by women, which makes sense, because culturally there is no inhibition against hitting a man like there is in hitting a women. Men are the eternal punching bags.
      If you don't understand the systemic bias in reporting that also for example would cause a man to never report such things because it is 'unmanly', then you're almost not worth talking to.
      But I also never accepted 'statistics' as a proper monarchical version of reality anyways.
      I am typing this out primarily for all those who would read it, and be inspired... as Marx tells us, the point of history is not to STUDY history, but to MAKE history!
      SOW THE WIND, and REAP THE WHIRLWIND.

  • @biry0501
    @biry0501 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Step one in fighting this: Stop calling it “social justice.” They don’t own social justice; you’re not going to get people to say they are against “social justice.” Social justice is an ancient struggle that is at least as old as the Old Testament. This is postmodern identitarianism.

  • @bonniehamilton2147
    @bonniehamilton2147 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I like the idea that your sexuality should not define you ....words to live by.

  • @tagus100
    @tagus100 ปีที่แล้ว

    Who is the host here?

  • @evilchaperone
    @evilchaperone ปีที่แล้ว

    Salem Witch Trials needs to come back to root these people out!!!

  • @savedfaves
    @savedfaves ปีที่แล้ว

    As ugliness rises the good will come up to meet it. It’s always been this way and always will be. The timeline is the difficult bit to nail down. That is uncertain. Inevitable, but unpredictable

  • @lirands2730
    @lirands2730 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Ps, Why do people continue to call some people "Elite". I think this is a big part of the problem. Name whomever on the name.

  • @bath_neon_classical
    @bath_neon_classical ปีที่แล้ว

    i have been trying to get an answer to the question "when did society construct gender?" for weeks but no one will engage with me.
    I'm interested from the perspective of evolutionary biology.
    also, im a big homer fan and it seems men and women had similar "performative" roles three thousand years ago.
    thanks

  • @ladylove3636
    @ladylove3636 ปีที่แล้ว

    Oh gosh this bit reminds me of a conversation 10 years back, big beat was called something else before it was called big beat, and someone was insisting it couldn't exist till it was called big beat. But I knew the scene before big beat, same scene it had to exist for it to be named. Postmodernists are proper annoying x

  • @matt4887
    @matt4887 ปีที่แล้ว

    They won a few battles but definitely not the war

  • @paulbadics3500
    @paulbadics3500 ปีที่แล้ว

    Young people on the right to fight back with humour & mimes & big tech just cancelled them from the public square

  • @dawnemile7499
    @dawnemile7499 ปีที่แล้ว

    Correction. They come to believe that their initial doubts were wrong.

  • @billthompson7072
    @billthompson7072 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nietzsche's #125 😊

  • @caucasianbulldog6057
    @caucasianbulldog6057 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    You know I sometimes think that if Western culture wasn't so enamoured with intellectuals and intellectualism, for want of a better term, we might all be in a better place culturally and as a society. The inevitable danger of going too far with all that is that it creates a counteractive force which often reacts violently to it. It is not by accident that Fascists in Germany and Italy, and Communists in Russia and China saw intellectuals as public enemy number one. There seems to be something very dangerous for the state at the heart of the intellectual activity.

    • @saltburner2
      @saltburner2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thomas Sowell should be required reading, that would undermine the rubbish.

    • @DieFlabbergast
      @DieFlabbergast ปีที่แล้ว

      That is rather funny, considering that it was intellectuals who "invented" the theories that underlie both fascism and communism.

  • @benfurbank
    @benfurbank ปีที่แล้ว

    @AndrewDoyle I think the new Puritans should be called "Purityrants"

  • @6teezkid
    @6teezkid 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    A Wokester’s biggest fear is saying the “wrong” thing to anyone in their own group. Because they know for a fact they can be permanently rejected by all their friends, acquaintances and even be derided throughout their school or university. They’ve seen it done and had partaken in it, themselves.
    To be “shunned” from their cult would be unbearable (especially amongst the females). With that, how in the world can this die off?
    Also, as Andrew said, WOKE is now no longer about the Left vs. the Right. They’ve just made their Identity and their Victim Status as priority #1. They even view Liberals as having gone completely Conservative. Even Bill Maher has had enough of the lunacy. Perhaps when a massive number of the true Liberals walk from the Democrat Party, and the Party panics, that’s when it begins to get extinguished.

  • @Moochie007
    @Moochie007 ปีที่แล้ว

    I like to know if a writer is gay because I've often found their books immensely enjoyable, in a way that other writers often are not. So there.

  • @suegittins3579
    @suegittins3579 ปีที่แล้ว

    Andrew Doyle good value.disagree that feminist slogan”the personal is political” somehow links to “a man can be a woman”.the first was apt and timely,the second ......bunkum