Paul was my trumpet teacher from the age of 10-18, he is the reason why I now teach music myself. He was such an inspiration, friend and mentor in my life. He is such a talented musician and techer which I find very rare, normally great player, rubbish teacher. Thank Paul!
Mr. Milner, you play beautifully. I appreciate the British Orchestral style and you give us an excellent example of that style. Thank you for sharing the video!
I've been a trombone player for about 7 years, just got out of high school. and switched to bass trombone. and i wish i had you as a teacher. haha your tips were helpful thanks so much. :)
im a pianist & violinist learning orchestration thanks so much :loved the information and actual playing so interesting to hear about long rests in score. Violins are always playing so we dont know how diffic it is to suddenly have to play soft or fast or loud.
This is a very nice video. Paul is a very didactic, nice guy and he knows what´s the most practical thing to go forward on a moment during the performance. This is a very useful video even for a not bass trombone player. Very good Paul!!!! Thanks.
Muito bom esse seu jeito de expor as varias maneiras em que o trombone-baixo é abordado em grandes clássicos de vários autores.Muito obrigado pela aula
You, Mr. Milner, are wonderful! I used to play trombone, but had to give it up before I could begin taking my first grade :( I'd love to buy one of my own, rather than a state funded piece, and begin learning again, particularly Die Walküre!
@kentranthus All trombones have a 7th position. The first trigger is intended to "replace" 6th position usually. However, the purpose of the trigger is to change the key of the instrument in order to make notes more succsefully. With a double plug, even more positions can be played further up the slide for ease and you can play chromatically down to pedal F.
The Schumann was really lovely - the last time I played it (a month ago) I tried it with the Bb in the first measure in V3 - gotta watch the intonation and tone color but for me it made it a lot easier to get a get a good legato feel.
Gracias por compartir esta información,es muy útil tanto para estudiantes como para profesionales,tambien es bueno el subtitulado en castellano y obviamente un placer escuchar un hermoso sonido de trombon!
I play several brass instruments (at a strictly amateur level), including straight tenor (Conn Director) and (Conn) valve trombones. I just ordered a used Yamaha YBL-321 bass trombone off eBay, so I'm trying to learn as much as I can about it. I also have a couple tubas (Conn 20J and Olds O-99), so I'm used to playing in the low register. I'm looking forward to receiving and playing the bass trombone.
If you just want to hear the excerpt examples: Ride of the Valkyries (minor) - 4:05 Ride of the Valkyrie (major) - 6:28 Schumann (first excerpt) - 9:07 Schumann (second excerpt) - 10:29 Rossini (first excerpt) - 12:47 Rossini (second excerpt) - 13:33
Wonderful video !! most informative i enjoyed this very much , what make bass trombone do you play ? beautiful sounding instrument . thank you for posting this .
@easterislandhead13 A Bass trombone has a fully chromatic lower octave down to Pedal Bb and double pedal Bb (though for the double pedal it depends on triggers and model of trombone)
Paul I enjoy your masterclasses, as always Basstrom is the iceing on the cake for me along with Soprano cornet in a brass band,... :) What model instrument do you play on is it a Rath ?
I have been seeing quite a bit of comments regarding of Mr. Milner puffing his cheeks in the low register. I puff my cheeks myself. Gene Pokorny puffs his cheeks my professor puffs his cheeks. Ed Kleinhammer puffed his cheeks and so on and so on. They do it because they have to, its natural, as long as you don't distort your tone with puffing your cheeks you are fine, Mr. Paul Milner gives a Perfect Example of this.
could I ask you or anyone for a bit of advice?, when learning a piece such as the bluebells of scotland, I know I needed to practice it slow at first I have the positions and an alright tempo but really want to try to speed it up. When I start double tonguing the passages - do I practice playing the notes slowly on the Ta and Ca and then build my Ta and Ca up? sorry might not make sense I had no idea how to word it :s
There are challanges that come with changing to a larger bored instrument for the younger student. One the horn is larger and has a heavier bell, you may have to get used to holding a horn that is ballanced different. Some may find the bell to be heavier. Also the slide is much wider and handles differently because of size and weight. Mouthpiece will go from being a small shank to large and may have a larger cup size causing you to use more air and work the lips more.Good technique is a plus.
@jesemus33 Being a trombone player, I agree with both 33skater and DrStrange. The slide positions on a trombone are generally estimations of where the note goes. And regarding what you said about trumpets, trombones have similar issues, though the trombone mouthpiece is bigger than the trumpet's, which means (I may be wrong about some of this, I'm not an expert) that there is a greater range of possible low and high notes also made possible by the position of the slide. It may also be the piece.
Your absolutely correct Peter, and this is why I wrote the comment that I did. I would have elaborated more, but you know how little space they give you to write. Again, with a horn that has a large bell such as a bass trombone, the bell is always a lot closer to the slide and that makes it a lot harder to aviod having contact with the bell. I still think it's a habbit that should be avoided at all costs. My teacher who was first chair in the Oregon Symphony was always vary strict about it.
Dennis, if you take the time to really read my comments, my position on his performance over all are complimentary. Yes, I agree, Tom Malone is a incredible trombonist as well as many other instruments that he plays extremely well. I find it funny that you are so ready to through me under the bus when the man has made no comment about it himself. I'd like to think he respected my opinion, or right to have one without being rude. I wish you would show that respect too.
I just recently got over this thankfully. I hold the slide with my thumb and pointer finger, and then I wrap my pinky underneath further down the slide. I make sure that no fingers are close to being up there. It's possible to get over it!
I'm a tubist at my high school, but my band director ok'd me to play bass trombone in the jazz band next year. I'm getting started now. I don't gave a mouthpiece, because I bought a large shank tenor mouthpiece thinking it was a bass trombone, but it was too small. Anyways, do you have any tips on bass bone? Is it much different from tuba?
Paul, I'm having a bit of a problem finding the scores for the versions you are playing on the 1st Rossini excerpt. Everything I've found parts from what you played around the 14th measure (depending on how you count it). Is there a source to download what you played?
Great playing of course, must have been quite nerve racking I should imagine. What I'd like to know is whether Mr Bright's phone call during your audition was an accident or pre-arranged. I wonder if any other players had a similar experiences!
@popstar23rockon there is a difference between not having control of your embouchure and letting your cheeks puff when you play, and the muscles in your face flexing when you play and making your cheeks look a little bigger.
@moomiss well the really only difference between bass and tenor trombone is notes below the staff if you take that off they're the same so I would go with bass
Hi im from Panama i play the bass trombone in my school band the shalom band from Colegui Bilingue Emanuel we also went to BEO but now going to the point what things most i do for be better at my trombone on grave and hight notes what exercies must i do and also what music do you recommend to me that will help me
I don't know if this is the right position to comment but could I ask you about the use of vibrato? I never know when to use slow or fast vibrato (in general) not in ride of the falkaries...don't think that would sound right XD also what is the idea behind the TH-cam symphony orchestra? :)
@jesemus33 of course when you're playing a giant tuning slide, but you're not going to hit each position perfectly every time. and trombone has to adjust with the lips too, a bad embouchure can make you really flat and put your sound way off.
What would be a good but low budget starting bass trombone? I really like playing the in the bass trombone range of my tenor, so I though I would pick up bass trombone. Please reply!
"You've got to do it my way coz I'm the judge" hahaha I know he's being slightly facetious but that's exactly my problem with competitions/auditions - Once you reach a certain level, most of it is down to luck.
6:45 That's some amazing articulation for the low range.
I like how trombones sound. I play the trombone in my school band, and I just got a Pro. Tenor Trombone today
Great things taught here for any musician that auditions frequently, no matter the instrument. This is a great video.
Paul was my trumpet teacher from the age of 10-18, he is the reason why I now teach music myself. He was such an inspiration, friend and mentor in my life. He is such a talented musician and techer which I find very rare, normally great player, rubbish teacher. Thank Paul!
Mr. Milner, you play beautifully. I appreciate the British Orchestral style and you give us an excellent example of that style. Thank you for sharing the video!
Excellent, thank you for sharing and beautiful playing! Makes me want to take up trombone again, it's been too many years and I loved it!
Beautifully played! You know how to demonstrate that instrument flawlessly without breaking a sweat. Thank you so much.*****
Thank you for your video, I really enjoyed hearing you play the excerpts, great job
I really like the way he plays the major section of the ride.
Paul is such an amazing teacher! Learnt loads from this and his last video. Wish i could have a lesson with him!
That thing is enormous -- if he hiccupped while playing, he'd suck up the whole cello section. Sounds beautiful, though! Very mellow and warm.
A very informative and helpful video, and very well played.
Maestro Milner, thank you for your m-class videos. I have used them with my students at the Puerto Rico Conservatory. Greetings from San Juan.
i just got upgraded from a tenor trombone to a bass trombone in two and a half years of playing, i hope one day to be able to sound like this
Your tone, omg I'm crying right now, it's so beautiful, dammit I wish I can play like this one day.
Your stunning sound is amazing, thanks for your master class, I do also play the trombone here in Spain, gracias!!!
Great nice guy.
The troll comments are just these tone deaf 12 year olds who think they're just amazing. Ignore it.
It's funny because I'm 12 and I think this guy is just as amazing as you think he is. Please don't doubt people like me.
I've been a trombone player for about 7 years, just got out of high school. and switched to bass trombone. and i wish i had you as a teacher. haha your tips were helpful thanks so much. :)
im a pianist & violinist learning orchestration thanks so much :loved the information and actual playing so interesting to hear about long rests in score. Violins are always playing so we dont know how diffic it is to suddenly have to play soft or fast or loud.
This is a very nice video. Paul is a very didactic, nice guy and he knows what´s the most practical thing to go forward on a moment during the performance. This is a very useful video even for a not bass trombone player. Very good Paul!!!! Thanks.
Thanks, you were such a help and I have been told of the difference I've made.
Thanks again
J
Very helpful commentary from a superb player.
Muito bom esse seu jeito de expor as varias maneiras em que o trombone-baixo é abordado em grandes clássicos de vários autores.Muito obrigado pela aula
great playing and explanations
awesome video, it helped a lot with my personal playing.
great!!thank you Mr.Milner!greetings from croatia from Rijeka Theatre!:=)
Tank you Paul. Very nice.
You, Mr. Milner, are wonderful! I used to play trombone, but had to give it up before I could begin taking my first grade :( I'd love to buy one of my own, rather than a state funded piece, and begin learning again, particularly Die Walküre!
I am serious you actually inspired me to start playing the bass trombone!
@kentranthus All trombones have a 7th position. The first trigger is intended to "replace" 6th position usually. However, the purpose of the trigger is to change the key of the instrument in order to make notes more succsefully. With a double plug, even more positions can be played further up the slide for ease and you can play chromatically down to pedal F.
The Schumann was really lovely - the last time I played it (a month ago) I tried it with the Bb in the first measure in V3 - gotta watch the intonation and tone color but for me it made it a lot easier to get a get a good legato feel.
Vincent Belford what do you mean
Gracias por compartir esta información,es muy útil tanto para estudiantes como para profesionales,tambien es bueno el subtitulado en castellano y obviamente un placer escuchar un hermoso sonido de trombon!
Gracias por éste valioso aporte; pues tenemos mucho que aprender de ustedes grandes maestros.
Merci c'est excellent. Bravo.
This guy is absolutely fantastic. I don't know why everybody has such a problem with his style.
I play several brass instruments (at a strictly amateur level), including straight tenor (Conn Director) and (Conn) valve trombones. I just ordered a used Yamaha YBL-321 bass trombone off eBay, so I'm trying to learn as much as I can about it. I also have a couple tubas (Conn 20J and Olds O-99), so I'm used to playing in the low register. I'm looking forward to receiving and playing the bass trombone.
If you just want to hear the excerpt examples:
Ride of the Valkyries (minor) - 4:05
Ride of the Valkyrie (major) - 6:28
Schumann (first excerpt) - 9:07
Schumann (second excerpt) - 10:29
Rossini (first excerpt) - 12:47
Rossini (second excerpt) - 13:33
is very good, thank you
Otimo adorei o video!!!
Top playing!
TOP MUSICIAN, TOP PERSON.
Wonderful video !! most informative i enjoyed this very much , what make bass trombone do you play ? beautiful sounding instrument . thank you for posting this .
great he the best,é o melhor,o cara é fera,que som magnífico.
@easterislandhead13 A Bass trombone has a fully chromatic lower octave down to Pedal Bb and double pedal Bb (though for the double pedal it depends on triggers and model of trombone)
Your video is great
Thank You :)
fabulous
Paul I enjoy your masterclasses, as always Basstrom is the iceing on the cake for me along with Soprano cornet in a brass band,... :) What model instrument do you play on is it a Rath ?
I have been seeing quite a bit of comments regarding of Mr. Milner puffing his cheeks in the low register. I puff my cheeks myself. Gene Pokorny puffs his cheeks my professor puffs his cheeks. Ed Kleinhammer puffed his cheeks and so on and so on. They do it because they have to, its natural, as long as you don't distort your tone with puffing your cheeks you are fine, Mr. Paul Milner gives a Perfect Example of this.
magnificent
What a nice man
could I ask you or anyone for a bit of advice?, when learning a piece such as the bluebells of scotland, I know I needed to practice it slow at first I have the positions and an alright tempo but really want to try to speed it up. When I start double tonguing the passages - do I practice playing the notes slowly on the Ta and Ca and then build my Ta and Ca up? sorry might not make sense I had no idea how to word it :s
is very good thank you very mach..!!
There are challanges that come with changing to a larger bored instrument for the younger student. One the horn is larger and has a heavier bell, you may have to get used to holding a horn that is ballanced different. Some may find the bell to be heavier. Also the slide is much wider and handles differently because of size and weight. Mouthpiece will go from being a small shank to large and may have a larger cup size causing you to use more air and work the lips more.Good technique is a plus.
Gap tooth = brilliant bass trombone player.
I heard Cat Anderson had his front teeth surgically separated so he could play the high notes.
***** Yep a mate of mine studied trumpet at the Conservatoire and also had some kind of surgery.
It's crazy how people will look tacky to sound better at music.
***** I had people in my concert band tell me to keep my gap when i told them to get braces and now I see why (:
Cameron Benson why?
Doesn't stop him from being awesome
@jesemus33 Being a trombone player, I agree with both 33skater and DrStrange. The slide positions on a trombone are generally estimations of where the note goes. And regarding what you said about trumpets, trombones have similar issues, though the trombone mouthpiece is bigger than the trumpet's, which means (I may be wrong about some of this, I'm not an expert) that there is a greater range of possible low and high notes also made possible by the position of the slide. It may also be the piece.
may I know where to get the original version of "Ride Of The Valkyries"
Your absolutely correct Peter, and this is why I wrote the comment that I did. I would have elaborated more, but you know how little space they give you to write. Again, with a horn that has a large bell such as a bass trombone, the bell is always a lot closer to the slide and that makes it a lot harder to aviod having contact with the bell. I still think it's a habbit that should be avoided at all costs. My teacher who was first chair in the Oregon Symphony was always vary strict about it.
Dennis, if you take the time to really read my comments, my position on his performance over all are complimentary. Yes, I agree, Tom Malone is a incredible trombonist as well as many other instruments that he plays extremely well. I find it funny that you are so ready to through me under the bus when the man has made no comment about it himself. I'd like to think he respected my opinion, or right to have one without being rude. I wish you would show that respect too.
You R Awesome!!!
Whoa! I never knew bass existed! I play the tenor (I think, I'm not so sure, as I'm a beginner), and I'd like to no know the difference.
Have you ever thought about doing a series on youtube about trombones? Like just about general themes and technique? That would be awesome!
@symphony I love your sound ! Pardon me, but how do you get the loud, strong sound while keeping it under control and not crack?
Thanks... 👍👍👍
I just recently got over this thankfully. I hold the slide with my thumb and pointer finger, and then I wrap my pinky underneath further down the slide. I make sure that no fingers are close to being up there. It's possible to get over it!
Did you know Brian Lynn's NEW PIECE 'Must Try Harder' for bass trombone is OUT NOW!!! see warwick music!!
I'm a tubist at my high school, but my band director ok'd me to play bass trombone in the jazz band next year. I'm getting started now. I don't gave a mouthpiece, because I bought a large shank tenor mouthpiece thinking it was a bass trombone, but it was too small. Anyways, do you have any tips on bass bone? Is it much different from tuba?
@wrongbuzz Yessss. you need that space to provide massive airflow. definitely larger is better to a point.
You're good. Thanks
Dude, me too. Basses ftw.
Even though I don't play the bass trombone, this is really interesting.
Paul, I'm having a bit of a problem finding the scores for the versions you are playing on the 1st Rossini excerpt. Everything I've found parts from what you played around the 14th measure (depending on how you count it). Is there a source to download what you played?
Yup. The trombone section usually consists of 2 tenors and a bass.
Great playing of course, must have been quite nerve racking I should imagine. What I'd like to know is whether Mr Bright's phone call during your audition was an accident or pre-arranged. I wonder if any other players had a similar experiences!
@popstar23rockon there is a difference between not having control of your embouchure and letting your cheeks puff when you play, and the muscles in your face flexing when you play and making your cheeks look a little bigger.
When I play that song I take the first part from the minor and the second half of the major when I'm alone
Good video, I like. What is the model of your trombon? The Bach Stradivarius is OK?
Eu sou violista, mas gostei muito do vídeo. Parabéns, muito interessante.
@moomiss well the really only difference between bass and tenor trombone is notes below the staff if you take that off they're the same so I would go with bass
Hi im from Panama i play the bass trombone in my school band the shalom band from Colegui Bilingue Emanuel we also went to BEO but now going to the point what things most i do for be better at my trombone on grave and hight notes what exercies must i do and also what music do you recommend to me that will help me
hernan herrera I'm in no way a great player but what I do to extend my range is just a simple concert f ascending. Just try to go as high as possible
Thanks my highest note is a C out of the pentagram of 5 lines sorry i dont remenber how many lines are
I don't know if this is the right position to comment but could I ask you about the use of vibrato? I never know when to use slow or fast vibrato (in general) not in ride of the falkaries...don't think that would sound right XD also what is the idea behind the TH-cam symphony orchestra? :)
Nice supportive Video!
I Like the sound of this Video better.
guy sounds amazing... end o' story
@jesemus33
of course when you're playing a giant tuning slide, but you're not going to hit each position perfectly every time.
and trombone has to adjust with the lips too, a bad embouchure can make you really flat and put your sound way off.
Trombone. Amaging
What do you mean by Modular?
The Yamaha Xenos are great trombones, really consistant too so a +1 to that!
grasias me servio ya q resien estoy aprendiendo a tocar trombon
Paul, you mentioned a final in Sydney at the end? What is this in regards to as?
what brand and model is that bass trombone? does anyone know?
"Miss Trombone" played on my Edison Fireside phonograph May 1911
does having space b/w teeth help to play trombone or other bass intruments?
What would be a good but low budget starting bass trombone? I really like playing the in the bass trombone range of my tenor, so I though I would pick up bass trombone. Please reply!
Cole Drinkwater Look at Bass trombones by Mack Brass or Wessex Tubas
thumbs up for trombone!!!!!!!
So i am a tenor trombone player and if i wanted to play bass trombone would there be a big difference?
What kind of bass trombone is that? I am a bass trombone player myself and love your sound!
DAAMMMMNNN
"You've got to do it my way coz I'm the judge" hahaha
I know he's being slightly facetious but that's exactly my problem with competitions/auditions - Once you reach a certain level, most of it is down to luck.
Yes, some instruments, like the french horn, require you to put your hand in the bell for some notes and even for the whole entire time!
@InTheFlesh177 It is a bach trombone. Not my favorite but it works great for him.
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