A Rare Look Inside Kim Il Sung University - Panorama: Inside North Korea - BBC
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- In an effort to build bridges, North Korea has invited a visiting group of Nobel Laureates into Kim Il-Sung University. Hanging onto this unique delegation is Rupert Wingfield - Hayes, who is hoping to chip away a bit at the isolation and establish dialogue with the students.
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Homegirl was like "oh right, Google, yeah" in a way that sounded like she wasn't too familiar with it 🤣💀
"oh yeah, the sex. i have the sex every day!" kind of just like that.
@@Cult1022 lmao 😹
she's really cute tho ;-;
@@alekizzu4705Simp
@@chrisdawson1776 do you even know what simp means? Or you just heard the word and now you’re using it without knowing its meaning like an absolute idiot? Calling a girl cute does not make you a simp. Find yourself a brain
I felt so bad for the students because the reporter seemed like he was trying to get them to mess up and get them executed
A bit over exaggerated with "getting executed"... The problem here is that the reporter said those kids are from the elite and it's something like "when we bomb them we gotta kill everybody, not only Kim"! U are so blood thirsty Anglo-Saxons...
@@dmd6227
Not exaggerated.
In north korea; political prisoners are treated worse than common murderers
@Demond Wilson -
no, not executet , just decades in the GULAG labor camps
@@dmd6227 No. Executed is correct. You have no understanding.
@@Xylos101 no man, this is USA propaganda. U gotta Open ur eyes!
The poor guy sitting next to the reporter and operating the computer looked scared when the reporter told him to type in bbc
he probably afraid to see the results of "BBC" if you know what i mean
@@dimasidhams lol
@@dimasidhams He doesn't even know what that means either lol
@@olbroboTrue, they just have North Korean Porn in there
He almost typed in BLACKED
this man got some bravery to say this literally while in north korea 😳
RIGHTTT
the one that more brave is the student that actually tell that they usually not accesed the Internet
In May 2016, Wingfield-Hayes (the journalist in this video), his cameraman and producer were arrested and questioned for eight hours before being sent to the airport for a flight to Beijing. The BBC were in Pyongyang to report on the visit of three Nobel laureates and were part of their delegation which took place ahead of the 7th Congress of the Workers' Party of Korea.
This was honestly not the best moment for these journalists. Especially at the end, when the guy says “For them to pretend they actually do have access to the internet is silly” is obviously true, but instead of elaborating on the story for why these kids are lying (their own safety, indoctrination, etc), he just comes to his own conclusion that misses the full picture. And the way they go about reporting, asking questions which they should know are extremely dangerous for people to answer and that will not warrant a truthful and concise response is pretty messed up and tone deaf. They should’ve just recorded, observed, and tried to have actual meaningful interaction with the locals that don’t infringe on their own wellbeing while still making an interesting story.
agreed. i was cringing when he was kind of pressing that poor student who was clearly struggling on what to say, he was stumbling his words alot clearly anxious. just an observed report would have given us the full picture, no need for silly questions which literally threaten the life of people!
Nah, this is funny to see them act like lying to parents. The way they pretend they fan read everything and the internet is accessible. Like genuine tyranny. It seems theyre pretty aware of all situation without any words but this documentary definitely is funny.
Yeah I hope someone they interview in western countries and ask career ending questions with excruciating comments on their take about the bbc’s lack of coverage on Muslim grooming gangs in the uk as well as the Israeli conflict going on now, with questions of LBTQ for good measure.
@@ErenDoppleganerNo it’s not grow up
Sir robert: nowadays if your a scientist and you don't have access to the internet your dead.
North korean student: if i have access to the internet I'am dead.
Try "you're"! I bet the Koreans, got it right.
He said "intranet" and obviously it wasn't intentional but it's a more accurate depiction of their network services
it was intentional, he wanted to point out the their home page is on the intranet so they can access it but they can not access and never use internet
It was intentional. The intranet is what they call the internet, and has the similar function and features, capability and speed of typically what 90's computers gave, according to The Infographics show on a video stating about their internet within it.
It was intentional, he said we don't use the internet because we use our intranet
@@AlanTFitch Just commenting for people reading here years later- intranets exist all over the world. For example, there were intranets in some places I worked. They function similarly to the internet, it's just a smaller, closed network with access to resources located within that network only. Inter = between, intra = within.
Looks like they are running "Pyongyang 98" on their systems.
it is actually red star os like linux
It is Red Star 2.0
Sometimes when I feel my college has nothing I watch this video and I feel blessed.
exactly.
Yeh at least u can go to better college if u pay more
Did you graduate yet?
1:23 poor girl
2:28 he actually was so intelligent
he might be dead now
Wtf man
Clearly. He tried to make use of the knowledge from the current situation he's pretty much unfamiliar with.
This is the guy who hacked sony for the interview movie man
This was stupid. The journalist should know beforehand that access to internet is limited in North Korea. But he still somehow wanted to prove the point.
Sir Richard Roberts makes a decisive point, nowadays as a scientist if you don't have access to the internet you're dead.
I mean they’ve got an arsenal of 60 nukes and they’ve figured out how to steal crypto, they win international robotics competitions, i think they’re doing alright.
If you have access to internet being a north korean you're dead too 😮💨
@@natanviceversathey have intranet
If he was so interested "research" and being a "scientist" then why didn't he ask them to go to a research site or a data site. Why ask them to go to "bbc" instead of "kaggle". Why not ask them which sites or mirrors they use for getting the data?
The answer is that these fake propaganda journalists didn't care about "science" they cared about forwarding their propaganda. They had access to the university for the first time and instead of asking how the kids get the data or reference documents, they asked if they can access THEIR site "bbc". Unbelievable.
Maybe they have copy sites that they download all the data to and that the students can access (like they do in China). Because obviously the NK government wouldn't want the US to know what their universities are researching or studying by looking at the traffic from NK to the various sites. So they probably download to their servers by crawling the pages and then make their own websites and APIs available.
But instead of making sure that the students have access to the data "anyway" and "any how", they were just interested if "bbc", that is controlled by the British government and has derogatory articles on NK and it's leaders, is available or not. Shameful.
1:20 they taught her to lie so well
What do you mean? Can you explain to me please...
Yikes, those people they asked questions to, and put on the spot might have ended up getting beaten or thrown in jail
0:06 The man on the left is the most handsome.
Probably son of an elite government official
Bro simpin for a North korean. He don't even know you exist fr
Ngl the song at the start is a bop
The guitar and accordion style seems to be a mexican style or something like that... kinda interesting
Have to feel bad for them
They are just as "brainwashed" as any other country. Most people's beliefs are just as "weird" as theirs. It's all a matter of perspective
No no it ain't. Matter of perspective @@rodrigomercader1275
Why
Their english are really good. Better than neighboring country. Have did they learn English? Do they have their own textbooks?
That UNIV is no.1 in NK. Compared to neighboring countries, Their eng is not good.
Privilegie North Korean people , have chance of a education. That includes a lot of information
The English they do learn is British English as supposed to American English so they have a tendency of using a lot of British terms and phrases
spy craft - they know english so they know what americans are saying.
the reason he was taken into custody was because he endangered the visit of the nobel laureates.
Fact: they have no access unless they're trained strict government workers.
The public has access only to word search lists but no images or videos.
From the least that's what a old escapee said years ago on New York anchor news and TIME a famous news provider here in America.
I don't even know how they were able to film this...
Reporter should not question students
How brave this repoter is to ask this question
Each student who is interviewed ,
- Looks afraid to talk freely
- The girl keeps hesitating to respond,
When the reporter mentioned Google she was like “ Oh yes yes we can access “ while she looks around nervously
The professors :
“ Science is useless if you don’t have internet access “
I feel so bad for the students who suffer in that regime.
They will never know what freedom looks like.
Science is useless if you don't have internet?
Tbh, I'd rather they don't know anything about the outside world. The US is especially poisonous with journalism especially politically.
I hate those reporters! So unprofessional and unsympathetic! Don't they know that they're putting those people in mortal danger? Anything and everything for a story! What's it to a bunch of British reporters if North korean students and teachers are imprisoned or even killed.
I agree, Regina. They know the restrictions so why ask what they know can't be answered? Just to be able to say they did it!
If these questions weren't asked and proof wasn't shown, then we'd all be accused of anti NK propaganda. "Of course they have access to the Internet, they say they do". They didn't try and persist with somebody, they tried to access the websites themselves.
How can we know the reality of North Korea and verify it without those questions?
So lets pretend Kim didn't have his own brother and uncle murdered because it hurts your feelings? Makes sense
Τotal deprivation of freedom of speech is a terrible thing.
theo9952 Nope. As long as you have money free speech is unimportant. Ask the Chinese.
and ask silicon valleys tech left, free speech is too much speech, they are just better at hiding their methods and intentions.
Communism
@@a.m.7785 Not only communism. In all kinds of totalitarian and authoritarian regimes, freedom of speech is either non-existent or at best severely compromised.
@@iniohos2ok commie
When she say free access to books at 1:15
Me in my head: “ oh, yes the former party members and not so big ties in U.S”
They all speak English surprisingly well.
@Katora Khan its probably a requirement
Asians especially Chinese Koreans and Japanese have high iq to learn language fast.
@@doraemon61377 I think that is not a valid argument. There is no sich thing as "geographic IQ density" - the surprise is that North Korean citizens are being taught English and seem to get sufficient practice. It seems counter-intuitive to the protectionist agenda.
Also, I don't think you can compare Japanese, Chinese and South Koreans with North Koreans.
@@doraemon61377 IQ was never meant to measure intelligence, it’s original purpose was to check how children learn
@Andre-ke8rx you can read Lee Kuan yew' s book on his beliefs in geography and intelligence (somewhat intricately linked). He is my country' s founding father and has strong views on that. "ONE MAN'S VIEWS ON THE WORLD". Of course, you can choose to disagree.
That time when you realise that a north korean university has better equipment and infrastructure than your actual university in LATAM
I mean this is literally their best university... so you'd need to compare your topline universities with their topline. Probably not comparable at all.
LATAM has better infrastructure than North Korea by 100x
@@Equinoxiumthere are a couple korean scientists that say the labs they use for the party elite are better equipped that some south korean hospitals.
the guy at 2:13 was turned into dog food few days later.
1:53 봉사기=server ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
This is a follow up to the rare look
Constantly being watched by agents behind him i can tell this guy is really nervous can’t express himself freely.
2:28 sure
2:46 north korean's elon musk
"Young people be loyal to our party" lmao I imagine a north korean official go up to some moody teenagers and say "HEY KIDS LETS GLORIFY THE SUPREME LEADER AAAHHHH YEA FRICK!!!"
Kids in American schools have to pledge allegiance every morning lol
@@edmund3504 ya but we have the choice to not to do the pledge, while in North Korea you have to or die
@@touchemtwotimestommy6125 I wouldn't be so sure about that. Here you will get publicly ostracized for kneeling during the national anthem (ie. Colin Kaepernick), and in schools teachers will make you stand (even though it's well within your right to choose not to) claiming it is "disrespectful"
@@edmund3504 Yes but unlike NK we wont get executed for not singing the Song of General Kim il sung. I'm pretty sure where you are from, you too would get humiliated for not standing to the anthem. But then again it's a matter of opinion, american soldiers sometimes kneel during the anthem for their fallen comrades
3:06
Hmmm what's that on the screen? Deginitely not google
Wow! They speak English too 👏
Girl said "Outside world" she knew they were like imprisoned , 1:21
they all look so natural and no plastic surgery 😍😍
They don't have the technology and professional doctors to do that.
Yeah!! These very top of society looks so pretty. Wonder what the other 95% of the people look like. Next lets go to a re-education camp and see how pretty they are.
That’s how the people outside of the Americas look like. East Asians don’t need plastic surgery because of they do not age the same way as European caucasians, who in turn _really_ frown upon plastic surgery/Botox, they tend to use more mild/temporary methods such as dying hair. Not sure about Middle Easterners, but I can tell you that it’s an American (north/south) thing, plastic surgery/Botox.
@@user-Prometheus I think it's because the original commenter was thinking of South Korea which is quite known that many have done plastic surgery as they have great accessibility to those services. Thus in North Korea they should all look more natural, well... Literally, I don't think they can have plastic surgery in the North...
3:20 man is lucky he got out of North Korea alive with this conversation.
From the outside world..Wow..
North Korea, rather than an Internet, has an Intranet, meaning they can only access pages hosted inside North Korea; it consists of a news blog, a translation service, an email service, and the most surprising: a few web stores and one single social media (name is still unknown or it has none) which is very similar to a bulleting board or a forum. There are also re-uploaded captures of some worldwide web sites, with it's respective censorship, and some investigation and scientific documents, both national and international.
2:20 this guy trying to remember the script
nothing says freedom of speech like having 5 guards following you and literally watching you over your sholder at any given moment
the first 25 seconds, great fingers on the device.
Kim invented that song, and the guitar and happiness
1:34 computer lab in north Korea some computer using Linux
2:46 the North korean with the red tie. Is that his pocket or is that a rip, I think its a tear.
North Koreans are so tan because they probably have to due manual labor. South Korean students at elite universities are not this tan unless they specifically want that look.
North/South Korea and East Asia in its entirety.
They aren't tanned at all, those students have a common shade of skin as many other Asians. The contrast I think is due the fact that they do not use in such a diffused way of cosmetic products.
I go to this school!
Sure
what the hell is that song at 2:40min mark
A friend of mine searched it for me:
Paul Mottram - Waltz Fantastique
th-cam.com/video/OQnHOOE4o2M/w-d-xo.html
darude sandstorm
1:30-1:31 That was a convincing answer lol
Server not working😂😂😂😂
I wonder where else in the world a journalist might be arrested, detained and expelled for not bowing down to the statue of a dictator?
What is the government so afraid of?
They don't want the populace to know any better. Along with nuclear weapons it's all they have- the terror state that keeps them in check and in fear of the government is what keeps public "support" of the regime high. If a significant part of the population were to find out about the outside world, particularly the "enemy" states like the USA, they'd realise that their quality of life could be significantly better- the kids you see here are incredibly talented and it's really quite sad that their potential has been stifled by strict government control, so to find out about a comparatively much freer society would spark unrest. If there were something that betrayed the regime's stability, even as mild as a protest, sure the government would gun them down like the Chinese did at Tiananmen, but that would send a very powerful message to the rest of the world that its grip on the people is loosening. From there it's virtually inevitable that it would collapse.
There the communist version the taliban
I live in China and pretty much most Chinese follow the government rules because the government is SO correct on a lot of things. Like masks protect people from COVID. I am also intrigued by how effective Halloween masks work out here.
almost everything
2:00 computer tech student doesn't even use Internet.... I've never heard of a computer related student not use the Internet, one of the first things you learn how to use the Internet to your advantage because textbooks and teachers can only do so much.
Comparing all the information on internet to information on university intranet and its homepage, sums up the complete story.
I love Kim II Sung University.
😂
They act like we have complete access through google..
Good one 😅 i mean it US Truhe what U are saying
Why would North Koreans want to access British state media? That's like a British person wanting to access NK state media, doesn't happen often
I wonder if any of this is real or if they're all just actors.
1:44 this is how you get someone killed. Journalist already knew this, and still try to ask dmb questions. While he waltzes home to UK, the people he talked to ends up in a labor camp.
Really? Eight comments and all of them are emojis? You got to be kidding me! I was hoping to see the usual fake news rant that usually happens in the BBC comment sections.
PleaseWatchSomeBobRossWithMe Productions south asians man. Always with the emojis
These people are part of the north korean elite. They are partly responsible for oppressing the rest of the country. Who gives a fuck if they die.
An academic institution teaches students proven theories and empirics and think on an academic level. For North Korea all of this theoretical framework and empirical evidence is limited by the geopolitical and repressive boundaries of this sole country so that you can dispute the academic level thinking. The government already dictates the theories and empirics as they want it to be.
Do u know that on many Competitive Coding sites mant NK students be are in top list. Thats sketchy since...in this video many can barely use internet.
1:16 bro shes literally a robot the way shes speaking English 😭makes it even more creepy
I doubt the authenticity, coz we’ve seen professional high level hacking from north Korea, without basics how can a student evolve to high level hacking?
Yes maybe the internet is busy.
Lol i just watched an video of a person getting in North korean website and this shows exact same website. 🤣🤣
We need to send them some Sam Kinison, Three Stooges and Looney Tunes tapes.......................
And the vcr too. Hey, u saw any working vcrs lately.
Only paranoic interpretations that dont work for understanding Korea and only reinforce prejudices that work to escalate tensions and misunderstandings. They speak as if they kow more about north korea than the north koreans. And they interpret everything to fit with their prejudices.
"You dead" i like that word
He says dont listen to adults
Yet student listen him
They are playing guitar i wonder where it orginated😂
hahaha trying to get to the biggest propagands site in the world, bbc, from the most protected place in the world, korea
the guy learning Computer Technology and couldn't able to pronounce Internet
Intranet is NK's own version of internet 😊
He meant to say what he said. "intranet"
Maybe you should look up what "intranet" is.
North Korea reminds alot of 1984🙁
Or the DPRK is just a country that is the dictatorship of the proletariat; the workers.
It Is the perfect description
They created a very tension situation 🤣
These are brave reporters 😂.One reporter said they are pretending to have access but they don't 😂bro you r in North Korea be careful !
And the student said we never use the internet because we have all the information on our university homepage 😂 woo!
It was decorated for the reporters.
There are so many strict rules in North Korea .
Want to conquer that country 😂& give freedom to the people which they deserve.
This journalist has some balls
Just look at code chef 7* coders. There are so many North Korean students ( even more than usa in top 30)
Something is not correct about this documentary
Only two subjects - Math and violin.
I like that guy listening to her.
If they tell the truth will be in danger
There are cute and handsome guys in north korea ❤❤
he said interrupt not internet
These young ones could have a better future and they are ready to see the outside world, but the country ruins their lives
Good thing they are sheltered from all the bullshit on the Internet.
woow, a repressive dictatorship is repressive.
I'm shocked.
This video gives me SOOOOOOO much anxiety, it’s unbearable.
University? Why some of them are so old like in their late 40s? Also, imagine you can't assess all the tutorials, patents, and papers from saying IEEE or JSTOR.... how on earth does the NK university server alone hold ALL the information they need? The NK people will never be able to catch up with the rest of the world.
Most North Koreans join the army after finishing high school. Men have to do 10 years of military service while women have 7 years. Those who continue to university after graduation only need to serve for 5 years. Those who study the sciences only need to do military service for 3 years. Those students are all real soldiers
Have you ever been to a real university? There are always people who join in because they didn't have money when they were growing up and had to work. Not everyone is born rich, you know? Also, there are masters and PHD courses which people often take after doing some years of work and making a living unless they have rich parents.
And if you believe the BS propaganda that they don't have access to IEEE or JSTOR or libgen, etc, I don't know what to tell you. NK hackers are amongst the most feared groups in the world and they didn't gain that reputation by not having access to all the materials. Plus, if you can't really develop Nukes and missiles without having access to stuff that even the common "researcher" in US doesn't have access to.
Also, it's not like they are storing the po rn hub library on their servers. Text documents aren't that big and are very easy and cheap to server.
Forget Harvard, I got my diploma from Kim Il-Sung University!
🤣
"Google" is the USA type of intranet, what's ur problem?
Do we speak the same language or not?
this looks scarily lik my country
So they can’t watch music videos or movies
Only north korean ones.
Yes make them look up websites so the government can send them to labour camps. BBC reporter's are so small minded at times.
Does it make any sense to ask questions like can you use Google? Can you use Facebook? Can you use the internet to the nk students? As you already know the answer? How ignorant it is.