Are you using UNPRINTABLE colors?

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  • In this video, I'll explain why your art looks weird in print (probably). I'll discuss the differences in the RGB and CMYK color gamut and how to overcome the common problems that digital artists face when trying to print their work.
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  • @colorwithkurt
    @colorwithkurt  3 ปีที่แล้ว +42

    BONUS TIP: When converting to CMYK from RGB in Photoshop, remember to flatten all of your layers into one layer beforing doing it! If you try to convert it with all the layers intact, it might not look right depending on the blending modes used in your layers.
    And don't forget to undo the "flattening" to bring your layers back after exporting. Thanks for watching!
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    • @ramonperales7269
      @ramonperales7269 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      This was so helpful. Thank you!

    • @InkSpots
      @InkSpots 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm fairly new colorist I ended up getting on some very big crowd funded comics. Clients do ask me for RGB files and I'm worried about them getting converted to CMYK at another source. My solution has been to flatten my pages convert to CMYK to get rid of unprintable colors then convert back to RGB and send them a flattened .TIFF file. I'm hoping by doing this it will lessen the chances of someone else messing it up when they convert it.

  • @GardrexArts
    @GardrexArts ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I've been a very casual artist for over 20 years. I've delved into digital art for the last 6 months. I ordered a print of work I did and boy, did it look washed out. THANK YOU for this video! I wished I'd known all of this before 😅

  • @alphatrope
    @alphatrope 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    You speak a lot about color field effect without calling it that. As a traditionally trained painter, now digital and traditional painter, it's still the most profound tenet for the understanding of how color works that i've encountered. It still astounds me how a particular color looks different, based upon the colors that surround it. Magic!

  • @rominafretes104
    @rominafretes104 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    another layer of complication is that it also depends on your screen how accurately you see the colors... so unless you calibrate your screen that's also a thing to consider even when you are working in cmyk files 🤯

  • @Rasz_Milli
    @Rasz_Milli 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Another great video. I’ve literally learned all of my coloring techniques from you from years of watching your channel. I don’t get to do much color work these days due to my work being a strictly black & white manga. But I Cary over the coloring to my covers and promotional art and it always stands out. Keep making these vids my man!

  • @LS-kg6my
    @LS-kg6my ปีที่แล้ว +2

    THANK YOU!!! So helpful to break down the color technology behind CMYK

  • @pollifpj
    @pollifpj ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Looking to print some designs for an online market on clothes and this preemptively saved me a TON of headache. Thank you for sharing your expertise to help us improve!

  • @Wastelandman7000
    @Wastelandman7000 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Good explanation. Also the GL example is instructive.

  • @andtheniforgotit
    @andtheniforgotit 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thank you! This is super helpful!

  • @abuharam
    @abuharam 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wow this is really great in-depth info on the matter, thank you!

  • @NICOSBIGHEAD
    @NICOSBIGHEAD 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    THANKS FOR THIS! SUPER USEFUL 😭🙏🏾

  • @rocketsteps
    @rocketsteps 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Really helpful, thanks.

  • @brucenunn3268
    @brucenunn3268 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Helpful. Thank you

  • @DNBon.an808
    @DNBon.an808 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This is rad, thank u

  • @kingofshadows1433
    @kingofshadows1433 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks Kurt!

  • @maiilustra
    @maiilustra 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you💜

  • @icon8391
    @icon8391 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    thanks This helped me out a lot

  • @anad3858
    @anad3858 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    hit crtl shift y in your color picker and photoshop will gray out the colors the printer wont be able to pull off

  • @chasemer6
    @chasemer6 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    First time viewing a video from your channel. I just want to say this is a great video; I can't believe it doesn't have more views.

    • @colorwithkurt
      @colorwithkurt  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Welcome to my channel! I think I'm just generally bad at the YT thing. Haha...

  • @jrmybrbr13gmailcom
    @jrmybrbr13gmailcom 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    A good rule of thumb is 72 dpi/rgb for things that will not be printed (internet), 300dpi/cmyk for print. If it's going to spot printing or screen printing use pantone coated in layers. That"s pretty much most of it.

    • @jaypeacemyth
      @jaypeacemyth 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I'd say those are final output resolutions. I usually try to double those DPIs when working on files, giving me more flexibility in scaling art within a piece (especially if I am scaling or liquifying so multiple times to tweak proportions, etc) and reusing files in promotional materials. More likely to have the resolution to be able to take art from a comic frame and pull in on it sequentially over a few frames, or as an illustration in an ad, postcard or on merch, and cover art as a poster that way.

  • @AzureSymbiote
    @AzureSymbiote ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you.

  • @LoneWolfMikoto
    @LoneWolfMikoto ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I remember my college classmate printed her work for practice session and it became so dark that it wasn't possible to see anything there
    I asked her if she used CMYK and she responded like she didn't even know about it. Well, someone didn't listen to teacher at all when he explained it to us lol

  • @motrk1047
    @motrk1047 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    l aways wanted to watch a video about this, you really teched me a lot of stuff man thx a lot man

  • @justforthetv
    @justforthetv 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yes it's very noticeable that the artwork was dull, and the color wheel was definitely noticeable. It's a bit sad that most printers aren't efficient enough.

  • @Hovenduck
    @Hovenduck 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for this!
    Some questions... When a comic is for printing, do you always have to convert it to CMYK first? Or it can be done without much trouble in RGB ir you are careful..?
    And to what color profile? You ask the publisher witch profile does the printer use everytime? Too many questions, sorry!

  • @leandropeixoto9043
    @leandropeixoto9043 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is gold.

    • @Neil-Aspinall
      @Neil-Aspinall หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Well in RGB maybe, CMYK not so much.

  • @breathingart
    @breathingart 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Just realized it was you at the end! I bought your course in Udemy~ very very helpful~ 😄😄

  • @CT6502
    @CT6502 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great explanation! I'm curious - when you convert from RGB to CMYK, how often do you end up tweaking some of your colors so they look better in CMYK? Or are you just using Ctrl+Y (Proof Colors) as you go along so you aren't surprised at the end? Thanks in advance!

    • @colorwithkurt
      @colorwithkurt  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It's pretty rare that I have to tweak things after conversion to CMYK but sometimes it needs a little. I've got a pretty good eye for what's in gamut and out though.

    • @CT6502
      @CT6502 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@colorwithkurt Awesome, thanks! I just need to keep practicing. Keep up the great videos. They're really helpful.

    • @colorwithkurt
      @colorwithkurt  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thanks. To be clear, my final tweaks are always with CMYK proofing on, so that it isn't ever a complete surprise.

  • @Camila-ej5pc
    @Camila-ej5pc ปีที่แล้ว

    I was doing research on color profiles because I wanted to sell prints on ArtStation and this helped a lot but another thing I noticed was in ArtStation’s print requirements they were actually saying sRGB only, I guess I’ll have to trust the process with their printers then!

    • @colorwithkurt
      @colorwithkurt  ปีที่แล้ว

      I've had a printer ask for that before, so I just did the CMYK conversion, then back to RGB. I felt like I had more control that way.

  • @snakebitartstudio
    @snakebitartstudio 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I actually did soe work recently for Games Workshop on a colorisation of one of their old comics - and they actually encouraged me to sue colours out of CMYK Gamut becuase they have a printing process that would work - and when I got the hard copy in my hands I was really surprise how well it printed. I used some bright blues and some purples I thought would never print (when I submitted them to my editor, I half expected the notes ont he pages to ask me to bring them back in a bit..) - but they turned out great... I have no idea how lol.

    • @dumbcat
      @dumbcat ปีที่แล้ว

      CMYK is a subset of RGB meaning CMKY has less colors. It is possible to design something in RGB on your computer screen with colors that fall outside of what CMYK can produce.

    • @snakebitartstudio
      @snakebitartstudio ปีที่แล้ว

      @@dumbcat I am very aware of that.. I've been colouring for comics for a while now. I am saying I am surprised how well the obviously out of gamut colours printed using what ever technique it is that games workshop used.

    • @jaypeacemyth
      @jaypeacemyth 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      There are some digital printers now that extend their printing gamut by using extra toners. I've been surprised by how well some light-blues have held without going purple lately. They have one cartridge for Cyan, then another for "light cyan", and so forth. I know they always want art submitted in RGB. They also have cartridges for fluorescents, metallic, varnishes, and even raised dimensional inks that can simulate textures and embossing somewhat (good for a more affordable almost letter-press feel). Working with those presses is a bit tricky, as I often want my art to be printed in full color, but lettering as 1-color black. That usually means working in multiple programs if I have to combine RGB illos with BW text.

    • @user-tv1wr8ox9l
      @user-tv1wr8ox9l 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Plesse drop the printers you use! @@jaypeacemyth

  • @Cyranowan
    @Cyranowan 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I usually have my preview set to CMYK in photoshop to get an idea and doing that also in clip studio

    • @colorwithkurt
      @colorwithkurt  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah I wish CSP's looked like PS's preview. If it did, I could drop PS. :) It just doesn't show the right colors for me regardless of the CMYK profile you choose.

  • @Jm-zz7cc
    @Jm-zz7cc 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    every time I press ctrl y i come one step closer to throwing my laptop off the balcony

  • @Neil-Aspinall
    @Neil-Aspinall หลายเดือนก่อน

    To make things even worse pigment inks opposed to dye based ink are even duller. Why use pigment inks? Archival reasons. When will Canon/Epson work out how to get that 'RGB' look in a print?

  • @cremecut6659
    @cremecut6659 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Interesting. How do you adjust RGB in the printer colour profile to print CMYK. THANKS

    • @colorwithkurt
      @colorwithkurt  9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You can't. You have to start in CMYK in Procreate.

  • @MadSUPANOVA
    @MadSUPANOVA 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Deadpool The War of Ths Realms #13 cover... did the colorist just color on top of pencil? If so awesome.

  • @MaxwellWurme
    @MaxwellWurme 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    So I use procreate for digital art and usually work with a generic cmyk canvas
    So that should only have cmyk colors available on it, and I should be good to go right?

    • @colorwithkurt
      @colorwithkurt  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yup, probably so

  • @scribblingjoe
    @scribblingjoe หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    With this in mind should I just avoid RGB altogether and use CMYK exclusively? I’m using Procreate not Photoshop.

    • @colorwithkurt
      @colorwithkurt  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      You can! You'll see the difference in the color picker. It even hides the extra RGB colors there.

  • @Shark97281
    @Shark97281 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Im facing a huge problem and i don’t know what im doing wrong or how to fix it. Is it my printer? Is it the format? Is it procreate itself? I don’t know.
    Whenever i print an image, the colors are all wrong. The dark purple becomes bright pink. The orange is too dark. The blue is too dark. What is going on?
    I have it in CYMK. Im printing from pdf. What am i doing wrong?

    • @colorwithkurt
      @colorwithkurt  2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Do you have a lot of colors in the darkest bottom third of the color picker? Very often I find that when the brightness of the screen is too high. The colors end up too dark.

  • @katokianimation
    @katokianimation 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    And people who dont even paint cant stop telling me to go cmy, and they dont understand that you can never get as vivid colors with something you mixed as a pure vivid pigment. Not even with the holy, true basic colors cmy...

  • @walterpereyra7662
    @walterpereyra7662 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love your channel and all the tutorials are great. But if at some point you could translate them into Spanish it would be great!

  • @mariotorosart
    @mariotorosart 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A wile back someone showed me that there is a button on Photoshop that will preview how it will look if printed. Can’t remember which tho …

  • @SkSafowan
    @SkSafowan 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    you deserve more sub, just one from me !!

  • @hi.241
    @hi.241 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Helo

  • @ezenami
    @ezenami 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Y u have so little subs!!!! What's wrong with this world?!