I'm a history buff. Wood-coke is pivotal in the modern rise of Mannkind. Metal work had hit a plateau until coke showed up on the scene. It accelerated the change in Europe of the day. I have always wondered how coke was produced. Figuring out how to make coal-coke saved the few forests left in Europe. Iron production stripped the trees from the lands.
I’m familiar with coke. My first job after college I worked for an engineering construction company that designed and built metallurgical coke ovens fir the steel industry. It was fascinating. The coke produced in them looks like a grey/silvery sponge, but very hard, after quenching in water to cool it.
Thanks, I was looking for a video about making coke. Anyone who says this is a waste of time and coal obviously doesnt do very much work with coal fires.
Plaster makes a poor furnace lining because it has no strength and cracks easily. Without refractory available, I would use one part clean silica sand, one part Portland Cement, and one part vermiculite. Vermiculite can be bought in bags at a plant nursery. Mix all three ingredients with no water. After the mix is well mixed, add a little water to be able to make a wet ball that does not fall apart, either not too wet or dry, but can be cast or troweled. Again, this is not a true refractory but will be superior and resist heat much, much better than plaster which is only hydrated lime. Using Portland Cement and sand brings your mix to work well almost to 1600 deg C. Also, using screened coke without fines will also greatly get more heat to melt copper and even gray iron. Maybe use the Coke fines that is called Coke Breeze as a bed on the bottom of the furnace to keep the crucible from sticking to the bottom and protect the crucible from breaking.
I have worked in a steel mill coke plant for many years. You are making a mistake by crushing your coke. If anything, I would separate screening the coke from the coke fines which is called coke breeze. I would have used Coke Breeze on the bottom of the furnace and let the crucible sit on these fines to protect your furnace lining. Then I would use the coarse coke to pack around the crucible so when you put your blower into the furnace, you got good ventilation throughout the coke charge and even more heat. This is desirable like in blast furnaces using coke is to have screened coke without coke breeze which closes off the air to combust the coke. Coke Breeze is not desirable. Lump coke is what you are looking for and if it is not crumbly, it is best for the most heat and this is called coke stability. High coke stability means the coke won't crumble into the coke breeze. Coke breeze is detrimental to good iron smelting and lower temps because of reduced hot air flow through the burden (charge of coke). Coke produced for iron and copper are practically identical. Don't crush the coke next time and try to have coarse pieces from 2 cm and up for your size of furnace with little or best is no fines.
The "smoke" coming off of that coal... is Coal Gas... a VERY flammable gas that has been used for centuries as a flammable fuel. Now you just have to figure a way to gather it, condense it, mix it with a flammable liquid it will dissolve into (like putting CO2 into water to carbonate it), and then you will have a liquid fuel that will burn VERY hot. :-) Also the tar can be used as... well... tar. You can patch a driveway with it if you make it into Asphalt. :-P
Tar can be used to isolate water from wood like in ships or home roof and so on, and it can be used as medicine to treat some skin and hair disease for cattle's and humans but I don't recommended using it without caution because I read that some people are allergic? and too much of it can hurt the skin? IDK Anyway, if you extract tar correctly you should get 3 tar thickness, light tar and medium dense/thick tar and very dense/thick tar and each one has it's own uses. Also I think (I'm not sure) that tar is going to have different properties depends on the type of the tree/wood.
Very useful videos but the video's audio (sound) is really small, I maximize my laptop's speaker just to slightly enough to hear. At least your voice is quite clear so I can still keep up to what you said. :D
Your can went brittle as chips because carbon did diffusion into the steel, increasing the carbon content. To prevent that you can use a metal with a fusion point higher than the work temperature, and unable to solve carbon, for example coppper. Greetings from Argentina
In the year 0. They could have used a leaf blower, a crucible, pliers, steel bucket...Thanks for showing us what it takes to smelt copper in 2021 and not year 0.
Your crucible is chipping away because it has a metal mesh screen on the inside. To make good coke, build an actual coke oven using fire bricks. To melt copper, you do not need coke. Simply use a crucible with a lid on top with a 1-2” hole on top and keep dumping your charcoal or wood around the crucible and induce air “hot air preferably heat gun or hair dryer etc “ and you will have no problem melting soft metals like copper and aluminum. If you need to reach 4000 degrees so you can melt iron, brass, steel etc. than you’ll need coke and a crucible that’s inside an isolated forge. There’s various chemicals that can be added to the chamber to help expedite the heating process faster. Good luck.
adding coal granules or powder to all metals but aluminium increases efficiency and decreases slag. adding coal to slag and heaing it results in reprocessing of the slag into metal, this does not work with aluminium oxide as one will be required to electrolize the liquid oxide, check cody's lab for more detail on refining copper.
I was an engineer at a manufacturing company that produced hand poured aluminum and bronze castings. The brake rotor and tree branch poking stick must have been a process they did before I came in the morning 😂 just kidding, I love science and would probably do this experiment if I had time.
It takes 4 different types of coal at different mixing percentages and then its gotta cook in an oven for 18 to 23 hours depending on production ranging from 1800 to 2100 degrees that's how coke is made
this is the destructive distillation process and it produces elemental carbon, also called coke, but this coke varies a lot from the cooking method originally discovered by the chinese no later than in the ninth century ad or 10900 years from the dawn of civilization.
So much information in so little time, with very basic equipment.......... one of the very best educationals on TH-cam :) I checked your other Vids' I reckon it deserves a subscribe and a ticked Bell = done :)
Coal is what is dug out o the ground. Coke is coal which has been roasted to leave almost pure carbon behind. Charcoal is wood which has been roasted to leave almost pure carbon behind. Metallurgical Coal also called Coking Coal is a type of coal well suited to the production of coke.
In the steel industry coke is used as the fuel in blast furnaces to reduce iron ore to iron. It’s charged into the blast furnace in alternating layers with the ore and limestone. The limestone reacts with contaminants to produce slag, which floats on top of the molten iron and is easily drawn off.
@@PAHighlander24 When i was in school the classroom had a coke burner, during the lessons the caretaker would come to the classroom and at coke every few hours. I often wondered why coke and not coal was used, but i believe coke has a higher calorific value and creates less smokes
Umm... you forgot to mention anything about the dangers of making coke. For instance one of the bi product gasses of coke making is benzene... you probably shouldn't be doing that
Thank you. I live near a set of railroad tracks and sometimes the coal being transported spills onto the ground. This is the coal that I use for my forge and foundry. Because I do not buy it commercially, I am unsure of its type or purity. I also do not know enough about coal to identify it by its properties. If you know of any good resources, I would be very interested to learn.
Well, based on the amount of tar and sticky stuff that was produced, I would say that the coal is bituminous. Bituminous coal has a lot of volatile compounds in it that turn to tar when heated. Do you know where the coal on the train is going to? That may help you identify the type of coal.
I think that the trains come from Pennsylvania. I have heard that Pennsylvania is rich in anthracite coal, which has low impurity levels and high carbon content. I really hope this is true but, like you said, it produced a lot of tar.
There is also a gigantic bituminous field in Pennsylvania. Based on how black that coal is, it is probably bituminous. I actually have some anthracite and it does not look like the coal that you use. If the coal is more silvery or shiny, it's anthracite. But if it is black and slightly porous, it's bituminous.
Sadly, no. The same process is used to turn wood into charcoal and to turn coal into coke. Charcoal is like the coke of wood. Charcoal is similar to coke, though. They both have lots of carbon some unburned impurities.
Coal is a mineral dug from the ground and was naturally created over millions of years. CHARcoal is wood that has been heated under vacuum and is man-made. Coal and charcoal are not the same material. In fact, some charcoal manufacturers add coal to their briquettes to increase their energy density because it burns hotter than pure charcoal. Lastly, if you were to put charcoal in a coke furnace, you wouldn't produce the numerous byproducts of coal, including coal tar, ammonia, light oils, and gas. The more you know! 🌈 🌟
use perlite and sodium silicate as a refractory cement, pour it into a metal bucket and place a weighted down plastic bucket in the middle to form cavity, leave for 6 hours or until mix gets solid, drill an angled hole through the wall and the buckets, then proceed with either fitting a leaf blower, hair drier or a gas torch, or at best a carburated oil pressure injector, you also may reinforce the build with wire.
I expect that there are other people in this world that would think likewise. They are the ones who do not understand that the cars they drive or the refrigerators and washing machines and so on throughout their homes and lives are only possible because of individuals who go out there and discover these things.
the most informative and straightforward video i have ever seen. no bullshit thumbnail or anything. well done sir
Agreed !
It's a sad state when I search how to make coke one TH-cam and get Coca cola or cocaine videos, smh it's very clear where our priorities are, cheers.
Bro just hit the recommended section. Hopefully this stimulates his channel.
Lol subbed for the f of it
Welp only 3 videos and nothing in 4 years... Pretty sure he's beyond help
It did not, channel seems dead
I'm a history buff. Wood-coke is pivotal in the modern rise of Mannkind. Metal work had hit a plateau until coke showed up on the scene. It accelerated the change in Europe of the day. I have always wondered how coke was produced. Figuring out how to make coal-coke saved the few forests left in Europe. Iron production stripped the trees from the lands.
I’m familiar with coke. My first job after college I worked for an engineering construction company that designed and built metallurgical coke ovens fir the steel industry. It was fascinating. The coke produced in them looks like a grey/silvery sponge, but very hard, after quenching in water to cool it.
A lot of homeless people are familiar with coke too. Lol.
cool. i tried it once and the coal turned silver-y and hard
@@lordvader4089 More like rich people lol, doubt homeless people would be able to afford it.
@@diobrando2160 how hard it is? Isn't coal hard already? It is even harder than coal?
Dumbass… Homeless can’t afford ‘coke’ that’s why they use poor man’s coke which is called meth.
Thanks, I was looking for a video about making coke. Anyone who says this is a waste of time and coal obviously doesnt do very much work with coal fires.
MIchael Hooper I used bit coal one time and the fire department came
@@benwan5425 wow nice
That shows how wisely you used
I mean Ive seen a guy run his on kingsford bricks and a hair dryer but im sure your right for industrial use
3 years, wow this feels like a facebook memory
I'm thinking a support for the lid would have increased the lifespan of those walls.
drill a 2" hole in lid then bolt on a flat piece of sheet metal to make easily adjustable flow
@@SXSPRIME looks like the "lid" is a car part lol
@@Biggylios yeah the lid to smelter is a brake rotor. I meant to modify the bucket lid
@@Biggylios yeah it's a brake disc lol
I came here from that "Coke being pushed out" video.
His excitement is contagious.
I honestly thought you were gonna cook some coca-cola to turn it into fuel
Glad i wasnt the only one
@@kronikphase yes
I just learned that coca cola is derived from charcoal coke.
@@hahna77 No bro .. Untrue
I don't know if you already know this but you can use steel wool to reinforce your plaster of Paris and play sand mold it works like rebar in concrete
Plaster makes a poor furnace lining because it has no strength and cracks easily. Without refractory available, I would use one part clean silica sand, one part Portland Cement, and one part vermiculite. Vermiculite can be bought in bags at a plant nursery. Mix all three ingredients with no water. After the mix is well mixed, add a little water to be able to make a wet ball that does not fall apart, either not too wet or dry, but can be cast or troweled. Again, this is not a true refractory but will be superior and resist heat much, much better than plaster which is only hydrated lime. Using Portland Cement and sand brings your mix to work well almost to 1600 deg C. Also, using screened coke without fines will also greatly get more heat to melt copper and even gray iron. Maybe use the Coke fines that is called Coke Breeze as a bed on the bottom of the furnace to keep the crucible from sticking to the bottom and protect the crucible from breaking.
Creator, Casualty makes three videos YEARS AGO.
TH-cam ALGORITHM: this has your name written all over it.
Coke made iron cheap and abundant. One of the greatest discoveries of modern era.
Thanks for making this video and showing us what you did to melt copper...
"steel punch" That's a Harbor Freight tapered reamer, right? Probably the best use for them.
Use anthracite coal. When it cokes together it forms a more loose structure that burns better than low grade bituminous coal.
anthracite is very expensive where i live
@@s.sradon9782 Guess I am lucky to be in NE PA. You can get a (shit) ton of Anthracite for about $125/ton. You'll need beer as well.
Can l charcoal instead of coal
@@ipinventors1738 yep, doubt you'll be able to find coal anywhere after the new potus gets through banning it.
I herd you should not use anthracite coal to make coke
Your dedication to efficiency earns a sub from me, sir. Kudos!
So you used coal...to make (coke) to then melt copper.... clever. I've been trying to understand the coke process....this helped.
Thanks for making this video, very educational and has helped me with my material studies
Did this guy die? Why did he stop posting after 3 videos, one being at 63k views
Definitely coming back to this video in about 10 years when I have my own backyard and mini metal foundry with homemade charcoal.
I have worked in a steel mill coke plant for many years. You are making a mistake by crushing your coke. If anything, I would separate screening the coke from the coke fines which is called coke breeze. I would have used Coke Breeze on the bottom of the furnace and let the crucible sit on these fines to protect your furnace lining. Then I would use the coarse coke to pack around the crucible so when you put your blower into the furnace, you got good ventilation throughout the coke charge and even more heat. This is desirable like in blast furnaces using coke is to have screened coke without coke breeze which closes off the air to combust the coke. Coke Breeze is not desirable. Lump coke is what you are looking for and if it is not crumbly, it is best for the most heat and this is called coke stability. High coke stability means the coke won't crumble into the coke breeze. Coke breeze is detrimental to good iron smelting and lower temps because of reduced hot air flow through the burden (charge of coke). Coke produced for iron and copper are practically identical. Don't crush the coke next time and try to have coarse pieces from 2 cm and up for your size of furnace with little or best is no fines.
The "smoke" coming off of that coal... is Coal Gas... a VERY flammable gas that has been used for centuries as a flammable fuel. Now you just have to figure a way to gather it, condense it, mix it with a flammable liquid it will dissolve into (like putting CO2 into water to carbonate it), and then you will have a liquid fuel that will burn VERY hot. :-) Also the tar can be used as... well... tar. You can patch a driveway with it if you make it into Asphalt. :-P
Tar can be used to isolate water from wood like in ships or home roof and so on, and it can be used as medicine to treat some skin and hair disease for cattle's and humans but I don't recommended using it without caution because I read that some people are allergic? and too much of it can hurt the skin? IDK
Anyway, if you extract tar correctly you should get 3 tar thickness, light tar and medium dense/thick tar and very dense/thick tar and each one has it's own uses.
Also I think (I'm not sure) that tar is going to have different properties depends on the type of the tree/wood.
If he had made a biochar stove and used coal instead of wood in the retort he would have have a very efficient system.
If you put one bucket inverted inside another, you can reduce the amount of oxygen that escapes by pretty much 100%
Very useful videos but the video's audio (sound) is really small, I maximize my laptop's speaker just to slightly enough to hear. At least your voice is quite clear so I can still keep up to what you said. :D
Your can went brittle as chips because carbon did diffusion into the steel, increasing the carbon content. To prevent that you can use a metal with a fusion point higher than the work temperature, and unable to solve carbon, for example coppper. Greetings from Argentina
In the year 0. They could have used a leaf blower, a crucible, pliers, steel bucket...Thanks for showing us what it takes to smelt copper in 2021 and not year 0.
Instead of using plaster for the walls ........you can use a mixture of wood ash and sand and clay .!
:))
distillation of coal will result in elemental carbon, this has to be done in either a vacuum or oxygn free atmosphere, including compound oxygen
Nom Nom Delicious "gulp" "gulp" "Ah" what a refreshing coke.
Your crucible is chipping away because it has a metal mesh screen on the inside.
To make good coke, build an actual coke oven using fire bricks.
To melt copper, you do not need coke. Simply use a crucible with a lid on top with a 1-2” hole on top and keep dumping your charcoal or wood around the crucible and induce air “hot air preferably heat gun or hair dryer etc “ and you will have no problem melting soft metals like copper and aluminum.
If you need to reach 4000 degrees so you can melt iron, brass, steel etc. than you’ll need coke and a crucible that’s inside an isolated forge.
There’s various chemicals that can be added to the chamber to help expedite the heating process faster.
Good luck.
Hey....can you please help me out
Can you please tell me which is harder ,coke or coal???
@2:46 straight looks like you threw a bird in there
Not seeing it
Wow. It cleared so many concepts for me. Thank you so much
adding coal granules or powder to all metals but aluminium increases efficiency and decreases slag. adding coal to slag and heaing it results in reprocessing of the slag into metal, this does not work with aluminium oxide as one will be required to electrolize the liquid oxide, check cody's lab for more detail on refining copper.
The of gassing has some burn ales btw…was used for a while for light before natural gas
Is that steel barrel a Tungsten Carbide coated chromium Molybdenum (chromoly) with 84% carbon? WC 4184
Anthracite is basically natural coke. Very little impurities. Only thing is its not as porous
So, youll need to insulate better. The lid should also be made of sand and plaster. The steel rotor will just wick away heat
I was an engineer at a manufacturing company that produced hand poured aluminum and bronze castings. The brake rotor and tree branch poking stick must have been a process they did before I came in the morning 😂 just kidding, I love science and would probably do this experiment if I had time.
Perhaps, you can try some carbon anodes with low moisture content the next time. Buddy we can help ! 🙂 cheers
Why the fanta font tho?
Not the coke tutorial I came looking for 😅 ...
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It takes 4 different types of coal at different mixing percentages and then its gotta cook in an oven for 18 to 23 hours depending on production ranging from 1800 to 2100 degrees that's how coke is made
@@greencityman420 and other hydrocarbons
this is the destructive distillation process and it produces elemental carbon, also called coke, but this coke varies a lot from the cooking method originally discovered by the chinese no later than in the ninth century ad or 10900 years from the dawn of civilization.
immersive engineering
Grind the coal into a powder and blow it in with compressed LNG.
So much information in so little time, with very basic equipment.......... one of the very best educationals on TH-cam :) I checked your other Vids' I reckon it deserves a subscribe and a ticked Bell = done :)
How to control moisture in drag and push both type of oven during quenching of hot Coke?
How to make coke]...
FBI on my computer: !
The best way to make your foundery is to use clay with steelwool mixed with it .
Plot twist. This is what's in your coca cola
Might be time to replace the foundry there my friend.
hello, can you do this process using charcoal (not coal)?
Why am I watching this........I don't know but ...... I'm watching it
Gonna have a kid just so I can wait for show and tell and give him a bag of coke to bring.
how do you ignite coke? I tried and I just cannot ignite it. it doesn't burn at all.
Cool videos dude...
Here before this vid blow up
use a combination of sodium silicate and perlite to create improved refractory material
Thanks 😎
Please wat kinda of coke do you people mean I’m seen 3 video about “coke” and I’m so confused
it might help if you put insulation around the foundry , think a lot of the heat radiates outward and not intoo the crusible
Foundry is a place or building used to house the location of the FURNACE.
Can somebody PLEASE tell me difference between COAL, CHARCOAL, COKE and METALLURGICAL COAL.
Thank you
Coal is what is dug out o the ground.
Coke is coal which has been roasted to leave almost pure carbon behind.
Charcoal is wood which has been roasted to leave almost pure carbon behind.
Metallurgical Coal also called Coking Coal is a type of coal well suited to the production of coke.
Can you give me an example of why people use coke? Thanks
In the steel industry coke is used as the fuel in blast furnaces to reduce iron ore to iron. It’s charged into the blast furnace in alternating layers with the ore and limestone. The limestone reacts with contaminants to produce slag, which floats on top of the molten iron and is easily drawn off.
@@PAHighlander24 When i was in school the classroom had a coke burner, during the lessons the caretaker would come to the classroom and at coke every few hours. I often wondered why coke and not coal was used, but i believe coke has a higher calorific value and creates less smokes
It's used to make steel and it's byproducts are also used for various purposes.
Based.
5:08 are you covering your forge with metal? but metal is going to leak heat which is a waste of time and heat.
You need to isolate the heat.
Interresting !
Thank you. I am glad that you enjoyed it.
The environmental contamination in this guys yard must be massive
I love coke
You know what would work better than can?? A red brick furnace.
OOOOOHHH NOW i get why its called coke im dumb as hell, i thought it was talking about coke as in the soda
Why not simply buy nut sized MET Coke ? Using a retort (and a poor one at that) seems like a PITA.
I don't think you can snort it
So many cans
you buy from hc stark in germany?
Umm... you forgot to mention anything about the dangers of making coke. For instance one of the bi product gasses of coke making is benzene... you probably shouldn't be doing that
Wtf am i watching. Damn youtube algorithm did it again 🙁
we put liquid paper on a bee
Very Cool! What kind of coal do you use?
Thank you.
I live near a set of railroad tracks and sometimes the coal being transported spills onto the ground. This is the coal that I use for my forge and foundry. Because I do not buy it commercially, I am unsure of its type or purity. I also do not know enough about coal to identify it by its properties. If you know of any good resources, I would be very interested to learn.
Well, based on the amount of tar and sticky stuff that was produced, I would say that the coal is bituminous. Bituminous coal has a lot of volatile compounds in it that turn to tar when heated. Do you know where the coal on the train is going to? That may help you identify the type of coal.
I think that the trains come from Pennsylvania. I have heard that Pennsylvania is rich in anthracite coal, which has low impurity levels and high carbon content. I really hope this is true but, like you said, it produced a lot of tar.
There is also a gigantic bituminous field in Pennsylvania. Based on how black that coal is, it is probably bituminous. I actually have some anthracite and it does not look like the coal that you use. If the coal is more silvery or shiny, it's anthracite. But if it is black and slightly porous, it's bituminous.
Thank you for that information. I think you are right about the coal being bituminous. I am glad to finally know what type of coal I am using.
Can you use charcoal to make coal coke?
Sadly, no. The same process is used to turn wood into charcoal and to turn coal into coke. Charcoal is like the coke of wood. Charcoal is similar to coke, though. They both have lots of carbon some unburned impurities.
Anyone else from coke comes out and coke pushing?
Charcoal is just cooked wood. Coke is just cooked coal? Lol makes sense
Coal is a mineral dug from the ground and was naturally created over millions of years. CHARcoal is wood that has been heated under vacuum and is man-made. Coal and charcoal are not the same material. In fact, some charcoal manufacturers add coal to their briquettes to increase their energy density because it burns hotter than pure charcoal. Lastly, if you were to put charcoal in a coke furnace, you wouldn't produce the numerous byproducts of coal, including coal tar, ammonia, light oils, and gas.
The more you know! 🌈 🌟
can you tell how to make afoundary
use perlite and sodium silicate as a refractory cement, pour it into a metal bucket and place a weighted down plastic bucket in the middle to form cavity, leave for 6 hours or until mix gets solid, drill an angled hole through the wall and the buckets, then proceed with either fitting a leaf blower, hair drier or a gas torch, or at best a carburated oil pressure injector, you also may reinforce the build with wire.
Lumber, steel beams, roofing material, nothing special needed to build a structure to house your FURNACE
I thought this was illegal
What's the deal with the audio?
Wonder what the street value of that is. Lol.
you have too much time to make dem holes so ima leave a like because it probably took so long
Idk what it is but it sure as hell aint coke
i builded small foundry and the coper are was wery easy to melt with normal coal
What did your furnace look like
@@donniebrown2896 it was big made from building derbish i glued it together with mud and i made alloy (brass)
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Where on Earth did you get that shitty coal? It's all dust. Can't you find some big anthracite anywhere?
What the hell is this???
This common sense commentary is literally killing me. 🤦🏻♂️
You don't seem to know what you are doing
Bruh! Cut those nails!
Your neighbours like the stinky smells from your garden?
It looks like third world enviroment pollution.
looks like a waste of time and coal
this process allows for low tech smelting of iron and steel
I expect that there are other people in this world that would think likewise. They are the ones who do not understand that the cars they drive or the refrigerators and washing machines and so on throughout their homes and lives are only possible because of individuals who go out there and discover these things.
The most inefficient way I’ve ever seen someone melt copper !!! Ever