Chopin vs. Jobim, Chopin's Prelude #4 compared to Jobim's "How Insensitive"
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 11 ต.ค. 2024
- A performance of Chopin's Prelude in Em, Op. 28 #4. Was Antonio Carlos Jobim influenced by this piece by Chopin, when he wrote his classic composition "How Insensitive"? An exploration of both pieces to compare their similarities. 4 steps of comparison. Tutorial to follow if you wish. Please go to website for free scores and Jazz Piano Book. www.kenthewitt....
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I loved this! This piece by Chopin is one of the most heart wrenching pieces I know and I've heard a few classical pianists play it, each in their own tempos and with their own interpretations. Such a wonderful piece of music. Your second (jazzy) play of it was great. You took out that odd rest that I never know what to do with. Great stuff!
The first two pieces have that postponed 'coming home' feeling that Benjamin Zander described in his Ted talk (I'm sure you've seen it. If not then do). www.ted.com/talks/benjamin_zander_on_music_and_passion?language=en
Highlander, can't thank you enough for sharing this. Benjamin Zander is an inspiration and someone to aspire to...a way to make peoples lives better through appreciation of music. Also this is a great tribute to Chopin and how meaningful the piece becomes when you identify it with someone you loved and lost. If I had felt those emotions I'm sure I would have played it differently but the TH-cam audience is different from a live audience. I felt that he rushed it, but for a reason. I wanted it to be more like in the film...and it works really well in the film "5 Easy Pieces". th-cam.com/video/CbUvLbgnxIQ/w-d-xo.html
I think that's probably the thing with classical music, or any for that matter. It's different each time you play it depending on how it makes you feel. Zander really connects the music to the emotion and that's probably where classical music shines. I'm not the biggest classical fan, but some of the melodies and harmonies from classical music really tear me apart.
I agree that Zander rushed it a bit and he made a few mistakes I think but all in all he got his point across. Thanks for that link by the way. I have to see that move again now :)
Chopin was one of the biggest inspirations on piano for Jobim, i'm shure he use this song as an inspiration. Great video!
Great comment...thanks so much!
The connection is undeniable, and your interpretations are very nice!
Thank you very much!
I LOVE the chord at 6:15. Simply gorgeous!
Thanks so much!
You're a genius! ...I loved your jazz interpretation of Chopin prelude!
Majo….You just made my day...blessings!
I like to imagine how Chopin listened to your jazz version of his prelude, and I'm pretty sure he would have very much enjoyed it. I also liked the comparison between Chopin's and Jobim's piece. I don't know if Jobim was influenced by Chopin, but there are definitely similarities. Thanks for sharing Kent!
I agree and so do a lot of people because after I did this I saw numerous postings of this comparison on You Tube. My take is a little different, so I'm glad we can all be unique in our own ways.
Jobim was from my country, I love that tune. Great job, bud!!!
We can also thank Stan Getz and Dizzy Gillespie for bringing Brazilian music to the US.
Kent Hewitt indeed.
Really? It must be an awesome country then. Following the logic, you must be as awesome as Jobim.
@@felipepipi1780, I am a pianist myself, but he is superb.
As a postscript: Your jazz interpretation of Chopin was killer! I hope that time will permit you to do a video on that in the future.
INCREDIBLE!!!! As always, Mr. Kent Hewitt, you are the man with constantly fascinating new ideas... and the talent and creativity to perform such ideas.
Great comment...and I appreciate the affirmation...keeps me looking for new ideas. Thanks!
Speaking of “Affirmation" ... is there anything sweeter than Jorge Dalto's solo on the Rhodes?
I was prepared to lecture you about corrupting Chopin but it was great! Magnificent chords!! You should publish the sheet music.
Marry Christmass Kent ! My God your Jazz style No4 is beyond amazing... pure elegance and a fresh approach to an almost 200 year old piece... Bravoo
Wow...what a great compliment.....joy to my heart and soul! Thank you!
I don't know how I landed here???but I found you...BRAVO!
Very cool, join the club!
Also... you killed that Jazz Prelude! I always love jazzchopin so much! If you could release more I would love it! Especially something like the Nocturnes
Added to favourites! (Going crazy with 3 comments) :o
Dude, you have to check out Victor Feldman's album: To Chopin With Love. The cat did it and one of my heroes. Get this:www.amazon.com/Chopin-Love-Victor-Feldman-Trio/dp/B0062QE97G
Wondeful video ! wonderful music ! wonderful playing ! Thank you so much !
A million thanks!!
Wow, what a fantastic choice of chords on that jazz interpretation of Chopin!
Much appreciated!
Aha ! Jobim ! Always touches my heart. I play some Chopin pieces but have never played #4. Amazing that there it is.... " How Insensitive". I was going to ask you about Bossa's.. Very nice Kent. Thank you once again !👏👏🎤🎄🎅🏻
Corinee, thank you and please check out my other Bossa Nova videos. th-cam.com/play/PLFuMibnl_h5bAbSjLn0KZqAJTgsKBOINK.html
Beautiful and inspiring, especially your jazz interpretation of Chopin. And, yes, I hear Chopin in Jobim. Thanks for sharing!
Excellent comment, and so helpful to me...thanks!
This was beautiful. Thank you Kent!
Thank you, Sina...I appreciate your taking the time to watch and send a comment.
Fascinating lesson, I'd love to see more of your thoughts on interpretations and the process you work through. Thank You...!
Thanks, Donald, I'll give that some thought...I appreciate the motivation for and an idea to use in a future video.
Digging the altered dominant ego man ahaha... I guess I have a problem :( haha, I love Chopin! Great video :)
As I just told Rich...you are now in the elite club...I should give out awards at the end of the year. Ha!
Kent Hewitt haha I love it. It’s enough of a reward getting to watch your videos Kent!
Love the comparisons and the illustrations of the different concepts. I definitely vote for a tutorial of this informative video!
I appreciate the request...this was a challenge, as they all are these days, but what good is life without a challenge?
Perfect, I loved your final interpretarion of Insensatez
Thank you so much1
Fantastic, Maestro Kent. U da man. 😎
From only a groovy chick!
I love your books (I have 1 and 2) and also watching your videos. I have learned so much from you. Chopin just grabs your emotions. I like a lot of his works. This and also Chopin's Etude Op 10 #3, are favorites. I love the way it goes through so many mood changes and the way I connect with it. I love your re-interpretation of it. So creative and beautiful. Thanks for giving me something new and wonderful to add to my repertoire!
Thanks Mary, that's a great comment and compliment. I agree totally...Chopin was the great master of the piano. If you've never heard his 2nd Piano Concerto played by Rubinstein...it's a must. I first listened to it on my road trip out west, and it will always remind me of the extraordinary beauty and adventure.
That s great. I m Brazillian, never noticed the similarity. Of course there is some. "How Insensitive" is the deepest down point in all bossa nova "romantic" obsession. "Down" in terms of love depression, i m not sure if I am using the correct words. But after a loss in your life, THE BEST remedy is a bottle of Scotch, a piano, and play How Insensitive in constant looping...
Marcos, good suggestion. And thanks for your point of view. Yes I agree... we called these types of songs the "jugulars"...a good way to sooth the melancholy,
Amazing comparison and interpretation. You rock!
This is one of my favorites, thanks for the affirmation!
Listening to your rendition of Chopin, I found myself humming How Insensitive over it. Wonderful playing!
That's great to hear, thank you so much!
Thanks so much, I've been feeling very melancholy today so the altered ego man brought me up and the Choppin' and Jobim soothed my soul God Blessed me...
Thanks for telling me and I'll pass it onto to ADEM, he's holding up in Newark.
Man, what I'd give to study under you. Maybe when I have the cash, for now I'll do it digitally :)
Thanks for the support. Maybe someday I'll do Skype, but for now ...this is what I enjoy, and these video help to promote my book. I always learn new things through this process.
This was a unique video idea. Loved it!
I thought it was a great idea myself and then after I did it I saw all the other TH-cam pianists who did it. Maybe not the same way...we're all unique...all people .
Very instructive, and very touching. Thank you
Thanks so much....check out the links to the film and others below, if you read the comments. It will open your eyes to other concepts.
Hi Kent, Thanks for the wonderful video and great playing. I can't wait to see the tutorial.
BTW skype is easy to do. If I can do it you can too.
What, you don't need 2 cameras or a special computer set-up?
Beautiful! Inspiring.
Thanks for the encouragement!
I was missing Alter Dom. Glad to see he’s back😘 Totally love your prelude interpretation.
Thank you and so does ADEM!
Hi Kent, Another great video. I can see where you are coming from with the Chopin/Jobim comparison. Loved your interpretations. Welcome a tutorial and some scores based on this.
Xmas Greetings, Paul.
Actually at first I saw this was clever...until I found out 600 people already did this.
As jazz is an art of individual expression, I'm sure you did it differently Kent!!!
Beautiful, Maestro! Thank you for sharing your knowledge with us
ArgoBeats...why can't I have a cool name like that! Thanks!
very good combination of styles
I apprecaite the affirmation!
Very enchanting and enjoyable.
Enchanting, I would agree...thanks!
Nice my friend! You’re awesome and I love your jokes and piano explanations!
Thanks for the support and if you like the jokes then you have just entered the chosen few.
Love the Ego! Thanx, Kent.
You are officially in the "Magic Circle" now, Brenda!
Hey, great link…. I allways thought ‘how insensitive’ was based upon Chopin’s prelude… than I discovered it was a composition by Jobim… watching and curious…
Thanks for the comment. I made the association more recently after hearing both pieces quite some time ago.
Linkin park - Chopin relationship ;
My teenage music idol > linkin park
Lp's Chester's idol> Stone temple pilots band(they are amazing)
Stp's guitarists's idol > bossa nova > jobim
Jobim's idol > chopin
Im shocked now 😲
That's quite a legacy. Thanks!
You are such an inspiration
Thanks for telling me.
Excellent !!!
A sheet of your jazz arrangement would be magic.
If you write to me I can send you the original score with my chord changes written in...that's all I have. Thanks!
Nice job! Beautiful playing.
Thanks a lot!
Hey, your jazz interp is REALLY sweet!
Love both tunes you should listen to Eugen Cicero's jazz version of N4
Thanks for the info!
The body of evidence is all there. The answer is yes. Nice video!
Thanks! You admit the body of evidence is there, so now you are initiated into the club.
Great! Especially for me, polish guy. Looking for another music inspiration analysis. Take care!
Thanks for the nice compliments...much appreciated!
great job man
Thank you!
very good video, i have enjoyed your playing
Loved your Chopin interpretation.
I appreciate the compliment!
This was a brilliant lesson! (Somehow it was lost in my 'notifications' for five days.) As for Jobim, I think that most composers--whether they will admit it or not--are influenced by the works of others. It would be hard not to be.
I'm glad ADEM is back in town--on work release, I suppose. (He obviously didn't use Max's attorney.)
You can never tell when he's going to show up. At least this time he wasn't pulling our legs!
Great fun. Trouble is I'll now have How Insensitive going along in my head whenever I hear the Chopin piece. :)
Ha! This was a fun video to think- up and make...I love both pieces.
@@KentHewittpiano88 Have you seen the oldie Ragtime movie soundtrack where Randy Newman turns Chopin in to Joplin (Scott, not Janice)?
Beeth-oven.. lmao! Never heard that one before. Stay cool man.
Swing loose, Dan, and always try to see the humor in life...it will keep you young.
No more similarity than nearly identical twins, but it sounds great and Chopin's ending measures are different. At least the lyrics are original. Great performance.
Love the fat E chord with the fourth voicings at the end of the Chopin jazz interpretation.
Oh, wow, thanks for telling me that!
Thanks! Did you ever come across the "over the Rainbow" arrangement of Georg Shearing? In the second chorus he really got into #4 mood as well. And I shouldn't forget to mention the Hungarian pianist Eugen Cicero, who turned #4 into a bossa back in the 60s: th-cam.com/video/j_9BTBuMsmk/w-d-xo.html
Thanks for the tips. Love Shearing!
Incredible spirit link by tge emotional chords of both songs
Great comment...thanks!
You can find another quite similarity between Claude Debussy "Clair de Lune", and Antonio Carlos Jobim "The girl from Ipanema" just an small passage.... but it seems to me a simple coincidence or maybe that Girl sometimes appears walking through the beach unde Clair de Lune...heheheh
Vierto...I think I understand your meaning, and that's awesome. I will look into that, and thanks for the inspiration!
QUITE ENLIGHTENING ! VERY BEAUTIFUL IMPROV. CHOPIN GOT NOTHIN' ON MY MAN KENT !
Steve...you're the best...how've you been, brother!
DOIN' GREAT, THANKS ! LEARNING AT A DIZZYING CLIP THANKS TO YOU, MY FRIEND ! HOPE IT NEVER ENDS !
perfect!!! your jazz interpretation...
Appreciated!
I ve always though that a few a the Brazilian composers routinely channelled Chopin.You were a little wooden on the Chopin 😀 but i,m glad you followed your instincts and made the connection.
I guess you mean I should have been looser on the classical. It's not my forte...but I do love classical players...it's a more demanding discipline than jazz.
Is there a tutorial? I’d love it!! Xxx
Are you looking for a score?
@@KentHewittpiano88 Is there one? Yes please!!
Only I don’t understand the chords written in jazz “code”, but I can read normal notes:). I love all your 3 versions - of course impossible for me but at least I want to learn what I can..
Amazing video!!
Appreciated!
the introductions always crack me up. i have a problem
You just joined the club!
very cool.
Thank you!
Another great and really interesting video. I’ve always loved this prelude and one I learned years ago but still love playing. For your other subscribers, Jimmy Page from Led Zeppelin does this on guitar and it’s really good
Thank you, glad you enjoyed it. Interesting that a rock player would have a version. Also thanks for the tip...actually quite a few people have commented with links to other versions, if you check the comments.
Brilliant jazzy Chopin !
Great comment...thanks!
It is a tempting conjecture, and indeed very likely that Jobim borrowed the tune from Chopin - they are almost too close.
However, it must be given that the chord progression is sufficiently 'universal' to be discovered independently by more than one. It basically sounds like a chromatic descend of II-V's - possibly with some tritone coloring. That often happens with popular tunes. Listen to a pop radio station, and you will find a plethora of tunes built on the same simple progressions. There is after all, a finite number of ways to harmonize that pleases the human ear.
I agree with your statement. What's intriguing is the similarity in feeling and the melodic line and how it in ways is similar to the Chopin piece. Thanks for the comment!
The left hand it is the SECRET...and them the right for melody...carried by
Yes, the right hand is the SECRET....and I'm glad you know it!
Tnx teacher 🙂 Hello from Morocco
Thanks, I was there last year...missed you.
Wonderful playing and a beautiful M&H piano, just like the one I have which is a1927 model T. What model is the one you are playing and what year?
Thanks! Good for you! It's a AA model vintage 1905, it's a beautiful instrument, we live our piano.
Eugen Cicero also has great jazz interp of badinerie
I'll check it out...thanks!
linda musica
Cool, a Mason and Hamlin AA! Great piano, I have one too!
That's great to hear. This piano is a gem (1905) and I hope you can hear that!
@@KentHewittpiano88 My speakers aren't that great, but I know the pianos well. I'm a professional piano tuner/technician. Techs love them. They're built like brick houses...
Thanks for posting
Mr Kent your videos are really inspiring. I would love if you could do a video on the walking bass for the left hand in depth and how can you do a walking bass on any piece...some tips if possible...keep helping the youth sir.😁 appreciated alot.
Thanks for the request...I have some videos on bass lines and walking bass. Go to my playlist click on the title below the picture and it will open the list of videos in that category. th-cam.com/channels/dmjw5sm9Kn83TB_rA_QBCw.htmlplayliststh-cam.com/video/lv8Zz3tqvxw/w-d-xo.html
Saudações do Brasil!
Lovely.
Thank you!
Good job. Always wondered what Chopin piece “How Insensitive” reminded me of. Love Chopin but liked your interpretation of the prelude better. By the way , who was Hermie Dressel ? Did he swing loose ? 😊
Thanks for the comment. I describe Hermie in one of my videos. He was a jazz drummer and booking agent from NYC. He had ties to CT. He tried to help me out in my career, we became friends. When I left his office, he always ended the meeting with the words "swing loose!"
Do you have a score for antonio carlos jobim please on your website?
Are you looking for How Insensitive lead sheet?
I just wanted to know if you had a transcript about what in the video. I understand that the song was transposed into another tone (excuse me, i'm french. It's very difficult to explain and translate with google). Thank you
Kent, Are you going to make the sheet available to this? I love it!
I can give you a sheet of the Chopin Prelude with my jazz chord symbols added if you write to me.
Everything is good--just one problem: You lost the Samba/Bossa beat!
I left up to the bass and drums...but they didn't show up!
I love it when other musicians amaze and move me :3 Maybe there should be an alter dominant ego man version?
That's why we exist, but often we don't realize what we do, because we're too subjective. So many musicians amaze me, but not necessarily for technique, but more for lyricism and incredible ideas. The alter ego works in us to try to remove our fears...and to allow us to take chances.
Good stuff.
Thanks for watching and the comment!
Jobim said Chopin was his favourite composer and it's wasn't a secret that this music was an arrangement of this prelude
I agree totally!
Obrigada ..😁🌹
Thank you!
Can you do a video with "one note samba" and how to improvise with a single note?
I think ADEM could handle that very well. John Cage was good at that too!
Another coincidence! I'm working on the Jobim right now! It's hard for me because I'm trying to figure out how to make it more interesting without destroying its original mood.
As expressed, Jobim is all about the rhythm and passion...that's Brazilian music. As far as making it more interesting, that will take time and practice and developing versatility...you have time.
kent, I have a problem :)
Join the club....you're in the elite one!
Wicked!
Hey Kent, out of interest, have you heard Richie Beirach's stuff? His Hubris album is beautiful
I haven't heard his recent stuff, but I followed his music years ago and heard him play in New York. He was one of the greats in terms of innovation...what happened to him?
wonderful.
cool...thanks!
prego,cya Master :)
side topic I have wondered for a while if classical improvisation was valid. Before I started to listen to Jazz or knew very little about theory (still a littled stumped) I was playing classically inclined improvs. I was really into Rimsky Korsocov , LIszt etc..
lots of eastern european music, not just classical but indigeneous folk music, I still love that stuff. Hell I know I can't get close to the skillset of classically trained musicians
Liszt in his day, reinterpreted Chopin, that probably woke a lot of musicians up
So it seems fair to say much of this music is open to interpretation and improvisational techniques. One can ask how would a classical trained musician or composer 10 20 50 100 200... years hear Chopin? and later writers like Charles Aznavour has had some of his amazing melodies butchered to pulp and some completely owned by others and they soar. I would say his eastern european roots have something to do with his musical aesthetic, culture perhaps en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Charles_Aznavour
Wow , I didn't realize that Aznavour had that level of stature...what a story! That's the amazing thing about music ...there's always a individual and unique interpretation of a piece of music by any composer...each player can have his own take on it. Check out Gabriela Montero, a great artist who improvises on Bach. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gabriela_Montero
I really did not realize it either. But I glom onto certain songs I really like and I cant ignore the dude.
Tnx for the link, Gabriela is absolutely killer. shit... Its classical and jazz? ,...No matter its fierce invention on the fly
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good call
thank you I laughed a lot!
is that a christmas tree?
If you laughed ...then you are invited into the "elite club". If you saw a tree, it probably was a Christmas one.
very tasteful!!!!!!
isn't that "IVY" on the intro and outro??? ♥♫SWEET!!!♫♥ One of the 3 songs my mother actually learned to play on the piano! :-) Jobim was "influenced" by Chopin? Hmm.... we call that a little closer to plagiarism where I come from - but I like the way you play both tunes!! BTW, is the "altered dominant ego man" getting enough vitamin D? He's looking a bit pale these days! :-) XO - M
Ha Ha, ADEM could use a tan. Yes that is Ivy, a song by Hoagy Carmichael, my trio playing the Ahmad Jamal version. It's a pretty obscure tune...you're the 1st person I've talked to that knows that song. Thanks for writing!
I played piano bar gigs in the 70s, and my mom LOVED all the old standards, so I know a lot of tunes - OLD ones, I mean! I couldn't recognize most contemporary "hits" if my life depended on it !! Looking forward to more of your promised Holiday songs! XO - M
Did you check out my Christmas playlist? th-cam.com/play/PLFuMibnl_h5axhRlD7mL5mqr9qSYh_fbp.html I hope to add more each season.
Did you check out my Christmas playlist?th-cam.com/play/PLFuMibnl_h5axhRlD7mL5mqr9qSYh_fbp.html
But of course, mon ami! What do you think I've been clicking on the past few weeks?? :-) XO - M
Chopin reincarnated as Jobim
Great comment...thanks!
So I also have a problem
someone please tell me what the intro was here?
The music in the intro is a song called "Ivy" by Hoagy" Carmichael. It's my trio playing the Ahmad Jamal version.
@@KentHewittpiano88 thank you! So crazy cool. And so are you! I love your channel and so appreciate what you're giving to me/us. Thank you!!!