My Thoughts - Robert E. Lee and the entire confederacy were traitors. Let's be clear on this fact. Lee led an army to destroy the United States of America. Lee is not by any stretch of the imagination an American hero. Lee gave his all to destroy this country. If any man led an army against the United States today, would we be erecting monuments in his honor? 18 U.S. Code § 2381 - Treason “Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.” (June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 807; Pub. L. 103-322, title XXXIII, § 330016(2)(J), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2148.) Similarly, why should the confederate flag be revered when it was created by traitors? If you believe the confederate flag represents a "way of life" or "heritage" then you are honoring traitors such as the officers of the confederacy armies and the officials of the states that seceding and fought the U.S. You can better honor the common soldiers by being honest about the history of the Civil War and the damage done to the South by the traitors who killed and injured the common people because they wanted to continue to enslave people solely because of the color of their skin. Giving prominence and honor to the confederate flag means you still believe in the confederacy, not the United States, and you still honor those who believed in slavery.
@@apgmk1970 tbf I don't feel Lee sought out to destroy the union, just to secede, and during the 1860's most people associated with their state rather than the country the lived in, when the US army invaded the South to restore order the people living in the south felt like they were being invaded
He needs to switch to a less structured format and just have a long conversion with all these people rather than splitting it all up into segments. That's the way discussions like these are progressing, especially in the podcast format.
@@guygadbois1068 This has been his way of doing things for centuries, but sure me too would like to listen more of Bill, but he's not one on one kind of a guy. He's also a comedian who gets a full tank from the reaction of the audience. May Jah bless Billy boy, I really feel like you're the only podcast and narrator I need. Wish millennials could do the same, but they can't even get the accent right. I can't stand high-pitched millennial speech, so I'm unlikely to switch to Ben Shapiro podcast, although I do enjoy his wit, just not his way of emitting soundwaves.
ppl governing thru dead presidents names...or offspring..doing what u think they might have done in their name cause u dont like whos around now....couls also be governing backwards.... some presidents were lucky to have huge issues to back them in a big way.. lincolns happened to be one of the biggest
Are you talking about people who insist that there are more than two genders, while also arguing that there is no actual difference between men and women?
flopot -- Gender is not scientific, sex is...there is legitimate research on this topic. Why not be open minded enough to see what it says? Or would you rather just make sarcastic quips on the internet for the singular purpose of validating your bigotry?
@Killer sheep "How do we talk to people who disregard facts, science, math , history, & common *sence*?" You can start by spelling *sense* correctly, otherwise those same individuals you profess to talk to will ignore everything you have to say because if your grammar and spelling aren't up to par, they'll simply call you a hypocrite. This game of communication is not easy, even worse now because nobody is communicating with each other anymore, which is why you as an individual need to make sure you are prepared to express yourself in a way that won't marginalize or belittle them and see your side of the view, and that unfortunately begins with your command of the English language. Good luck.
a kind of cap to the fact that she is sweet, but clueless. there is magical thinking on the right and left. If I hear one more historian talk about 'the better angels of our (human) nature -- which is mixed at best, well, just stop! Yes POWER begets POWER, and it's time for humanity - including supposedly EDUCATED people/liberals & neoliberals -- to wake up about human nature, the VERY REAL and bloodly lessons of history and POWER. The founder acknowledged this through designing 'checks and balances' --- and like in all rises of fascism/corporatism/1%ism/totalitarianism (maybe because the elite see what is coming along with climate change) -- all which is what we are seeing NOW - IN PLAIN SIGHT in the USA (esp fascism, as other places) - 'checks and balances' are, with the swamp of international crony capitalism, being eliminated. There are none so blind as them who WOULD NOT SEE! Ignorance, willful ignorance (to self-serving tripe can be served up and maintained), and the cluelessness of the neo-liberal elites - like sweet, soulful, intelligent Doris -- who is refusing to look, never mind see...what IS THERE right in front of her.
Bettina: she isn't being blind to power, she's saying americans are capable of empathy. regular americans being manipulated by the elite and their rivals in a grand global hegemonic battle over culture and history. she's saying people have the _potential_ to be informed and discerning of the facts. bill was saying fairly pessimistic shit about how the country is irreversibly polarized; doris simply cites historical facts where strong leaders were able to unite the country thru great hardship. what part of believing in america is being clueless? also, way to go off on a giant tangent over a benign remark about doris being adorkable.
Mr. D: Prof. Goodwin's very genuine and hilarious embarrassment at her little throwaway line was wonderful. And I actually felt very good about it. She looked at Mr. Sullivan and saw and heard someone making a statement about how he would suggest Americans protect women's rights, not a guy sitting across from her defined completely by his sexual preference. That is where the country has to go in the way it treats all people, and before Pres. Trump, that was the direction I thought we were headed in. Trumpians would be amazed if they'd only look at an X-Group worker and see a worker instead of a member of X-Group, at how much less X-Group would insist on being treated as an interest group. How many Republicans hire an incompetent European-American who screws up a job or doesn't show up to work and say, "I'm never going to make that mistake again and hire one of _them_ ," compared to the number who would think or say those words if the worker happened to be Hispanic, or African-American, or gay, or Muslim or whatever? At the point when all, or virtually all Americans say, "That guy/gal screwed up. I'll never make that mistake again and hire him/her," we will have moved beyond the "identity politics" Republicans claim to abhor. Is it not Trump voters who need to take the lead on this and rebuke their president for getting very little done that significantly benefits the country (the new NAFTA seems to be little different from the old NAFTA on matters of significance, for example) while continuing to flatter them and degrade others not for their accomplishments or failures but simply because of their identities. Yay to Prof. Goodwin!
That was probably the funniest end of Overtime ever. Poor Doris Goodwin Kearns. She blushed like a strawberry after Bill clued her in. Girlfriend's Gaydar is broken big time. She needs to get that fixed ASAP!
@MonsterSound No, that was Doris Goodwin Kearns who asked that. Not Soledad. And if you listen carefully you can hear Bill saying in a low voice to her "He's gay". (as he touched her arm and tries not to get it in the mic) Which is why she blushes and covers her face with her hands as Bill tells HER (and not Soledad) in a louder voice, "Believe me. We all know that!" Soledad knows. She's worked with Sullivan before both on CNN when she used to anchor in the mornings, and when he's been on MSNBC a few times.
In fairness to Doris, Sullivan isn't exactly an instant give-away...the "gaydar" concept is bullshit! there're gay men out there that makes Liam Neeson look like Barbi!
She's right our inability to care about others is ripping our country apart. We have to be empathic and respectful to each other and it doesn't start with our leaders, it starts with us.
She is a scholar, she spends years studying a topic or person prior to writing one word on the topic or person. That kind of dedication to truth and historical accuracy, as well as her love of baseball, that leaves no time for bs about sexual orientation.
Yokie, what are you talking about? Maher said: "You're not going to get anyone pregnant", to Andrew (who is openly gay). Maher only put his arm on Doris because she said: "How do you know?", and he said: "Believe me, we all know that." Besides she even said that she was happy to laugh, too, @ 0:30
+CaptainHappen There is literally ZERO evidence of that. They are TREASONOUS because they CONTRADICT ALL traditional American values that this country was BUILT upon. In Russia and Germany in the 1920s, many Communists were expelled and fled and embedded themselves within western societies, mostly in England and America in our universities, media organizations, and governments. They then began a long march to bring Communism to the west. You *LITERALLY TREASONOUS* Democrats are on their side. All of these pro-feminism, pro-gay, pro-immigration stances are not accidents. They are planned attacks by the Cultural Marxists of the Frankfurt School, designed to take down western civilization and turn it Communist. They are based on a Post Modernist philosophy called Critical Theory. This is proven FACT yet you low IQ MORONS call it a "conspiracy theory", while simultaneously completely believing that Russia "HACKED" our election with zero evidence of it, lmao. There is no more room in this country for both of our "sides". One of us has to go, and it's not going to be us. There will be no room for any in-between.
Will never happen. America is the land of the free, sadly not for 99% of "We the People", just 1% fits in that category, (not trolling here). Well, in all fairness I got that information from the Media so I don't really buy it,I also was informed (just so be clear) again by the Deep State Media media owners,CNN BREAKING NEWS or TH-cam, don't recall, some channel,who cares. Story of the day was that the Earth is flat,not round as they told us long ago. Last example, that Space guy Elon Musk was asked a question if we could live in the "Matrix", his answer was basically (both Yes and No). This was long after the Media had made The "Fiction Movie" Matrix!.Good comment!
Was this not the best Overtime discussion ever or close to it? I was riveted to every word. It actually sounded like all the guests were interested in contributing their ideas to move the discussion forward rather to score points only for their side. A debate for the sake of finding a solution rather than defeating an opponent. Wowskies! More of this, please.
Watching this has made me feel so much better....thank you Bill for bringing thoughtful questions and giving us thoughtful answers....we shall see what we shall see....
The majority of the American people wanted Hillary Clinton to be president but that didn't happen either. Democrats get more votes but end up with less seats and less wins. The founders wrote about tyranny of the majority well what kind of democracy lets 30 percent of the country have a 100 percent of the power? It's really frustrating losing with more votes and this is the second time that's happened in my lifetime and both elections have had catastrophic consequences for America. I'm sick of the electoral college.
Khal Brogo -- why should specific swing states decide elections? If each person gets to vote, then why shouldn't each vote throughout the whole country count the same?? That's what democracy means. The electoral college is, by definition, undemocratic. It makes no sense that 60,000 votes in Michigan and other rust belt states decided the election.... but the 3,000,000 votes that Hillary Clinton got more than Donald Trump did not count for anything. Those 3 million may as well have stayed at home. The electoral college is undemocratic. Period. Gerrymandering is undemocratic. Picking partisan Supreme Court justices is undemocratic. Citizens United and corporate money in politics is undemocratic. America has great ideals about being an amazing democracy, but it actually would require a lot of reforms in order to get there.
I don't think it was a burn at all. Andrew Sullivan is openly gay. I think that's what Maher was alluding to about him not getting anyone pregnant - because he doesn't have sex with females
Shouldn’t the gay men want Roe v Wade overturned, unwanted pregnancies make gay adoptions more needed! That reason alone, would flip the republicans pro-choice!
Was impressed /w David Jolly's thoughtful insights on the Party of Treason. Cheating to win is my hot button. We take trophies away from cheaters, not give them board seats where they can corrupt further the race. I'd prefer not to discuss BK but he's the cheaters' latest trophy.
I picked up My Betp signs last week for myself and my whole neighborhood. Hoping for the best. Willie Nelson hosted a concert in Austin. He has energized the Dems and Rafael Cruz has got to go. He meets with no one and never hold a town meeting. Hangs out in Washington, instead of Texas.
This woman is a national treasure and she lost her husband in May of this year, 2018. She is a gem and a trooper and a Goddess to me!!! She cares about the American people. All of us.
Considering the stakes on Roe vs. Wade, the ending just vanishes all the tension. When Maher responds with, "Well, that's easy for you, you're not gonna get anybody pregnant. Believe me, we all know that!: lol Epic! :P
chech He is one of my favs! One of the most intelligent (now former) republicans I’ve ever encountered and he puts country before party. This current batch are not conservative at all!!!
I feel so bad for Soledad during this whole show. The amount of restraint she showed as Sullivan multiple times created this false narrative out of "what people made of this whole Kavanaugh hearing" as being some large scale dangerous time for white men - then kept steamrolling over her clearly articulated completely different analysis and counter that NO, this "thing you're talking about "Andrew is primarily an old white Republican theatrical strategy to whip up their base... all the while Bill gave no real time for her to present a strong counter because he was sick of the topic. Huge fan of Bill and there's no doubt it's his show and he navigates what he wants, but this was _not_ a sticking point that had already been picked over for 3 weeks by "the liberal media". Neverthless Bill pushed to move on and Soledad sucked it up with a kind of "graceful" acceptance- yet Andrew kept returning to the point, each time compounding his non-understanding what she was saying with misstatements of what she had NOT said. Anyone with a halfway decent eye for people's facial expressions could spell out her thought balloons as "what in the world is going on here? He's not heard one thing I've tried to say- and apparently Bill's just not interested in teasing this out for clarity".... Just when I thought "Andrew on a rampage" couldn't get any worse, with time ticking away and 10:18 Bill finally directing a question for Soledad to answer, before Bill can read it, at 10:25 Andrew again steals the thunder and tries to tag onto the prior answer---which then distracts Bill, and we see Soledad play the good sport, but turning to look at Andrew with slight perturbed look of "ok, let's hear what comes out next", then finally gets her question and thoughtfully answers it.... only to have once again Andrew lecture yet one more time something "liberals just don't realize", making the preposterous statement at 11:56 that then made me laugh watching Soledad trying her damndest to tamp down her "Oh FFS, Man!" silent reaction!
I agree. He over talked her and then acted like a victim. I would have loved to hear Soledad’s complete thought but she was rarely given the chance. I wanted her to be more forceful but I understand why she wasn’t.
Ha, irony... It is the expression of one's meaning by using language that normally signifies the opposite, typically for humorous or emphatic effect. I would assume, hopefully, that your comment was meant ironically, right? Because otherwise you are a complete and total moron.
One day, someone will use the word "cunt" to refer to your mother, sister or daughter, thereby following the lead of people such as yourself. Congratulations.
@@aiwassl2357 Exactly. Since the beginning of time, governments have been afraid of their citizens. The people have the power and can vote craziness out.
Exactly Jeff... Think globally...act locally. I teach Environmental Science to teens. I walk the line between trying to imbue my enthusiasm but also grounding it in facts. Kids get it. They want a better future for their environment that will impact their health and quality of life.
Is he really insufferable, or just a conservative making a rational point? Bloody hell - I love Bernie, but that sort of dismissal of someone without any actual justification is what makes the entire left look bad.
There is justification... a credible witness. When do women's accounts and experiences and pain get to be taken into consideration? As a woman who's been assaulted, watching how people defend and even uphold someone like Kavanaugh as a victim while mocking and berating Ford has honestly been retraumatizing. Because now I really know that people just don't seem to care... Additionally, Sulliovan kept interrupting O'Brian while being able to make his terrible, unfounded claims.
He tends to drone on. Just make you point and allow for rebuttle. And I've read articles by him recently that were right on the money, then he makes idiotic comments like "Liberals ought to welcome the end of Roe." Or when he buys the whole white male martyrdom angle that the GOP pushes.
I have to say as a white man I just don't feel threatened by people who want equality. Perhaps because I'm egalitarian or that I ignore the extremest who think I don't deserve a say because I am white, and like most extremist, they are a loud minority that makes them perfect for painting an entire movement as ridiculous.
interesting website ,...…………………..I will try to address it later...……………………...even if you desire to break up grid lock , do you admit that we have clear differences in our perspectives from the beginning of the legislative process?
@@robinsss I think everyone has a different perspective. I have never lived in the US but my studies of different democracies have led me to believe that a lot of the "tribalism" that America is facing is largely a product of only having two parties. In proportional representative democracies and federations where there are no nationally operating parties, people seem to be freer to develop their own perspective on matters, instead of just picking a side and falling into the mo(u)ld. When political parties are forced to negotiate with each other the people's interests are heard the loudest. It's unwise for any multi-party democracy to allow any single party to govern on it's own.
Where are the parents of these starving children? It’s the richest country in the world, and you are telling me that two responsible people can’t feed their kids? I guess “responsible” is the key word there.
The US has been the richest country on Earth basically since it’s inception. When British and Hessian soldiers invaded New York during the revolution they were astonished at the wealth that the average citizen possessed. I am not suggesting that starving children should not be fed, but I would remind you that it is the responsibility of individual people to take care of their neighbors and themselves. If they choose to use the government as a tool, then so be it, but there are other, more cost effective ways to make this happen, if more people are willing to engage in their communities. Mostly I just wanted to be a dick and blast the dead beat parents who care more about taking care of themselves, but who are so often portrayed as helpless victims.
There’s an inherent contradiction in Bridges saying “Go local” is a conservative mantra, which is right, but so too is the “Personal responsibility” and “Don’t wait for government” lines he espouses. Ultimately it’s going to take collective action to get the government you want which, as Maher correctly identifies, is the only institution large enough to deal with these huge systemic crises.
Trump has the greatest sense of humor, his best jokes. .. the disabled impression, the war prisoner joke , the sexual assault victim impression... if you don't get it. ... well, sad!
@Angry Old Man except , Trump wasn't joking then, if you do your research, as the stable genius did ... Ted is a carpet bagger, he succumbed to blackmail, that's all.
Very interesting that the right-of-center bald man that keeps shooting down everybody's positive conversation about our current situation says " we need to talk to each other"..... #whoopsieDazedandconfused #wakkadoowarning
Bill was on w/ the humor that night. "Wear protection" & the Andrew quote, "You're not gonna get anyone pregnant." Ha. Have a great week everyone! & please go out & vote ( :
@@DaddyFatSzack She doesn't listen. She won't even consider that men might have legitimate concerns about their world. She acts like it is completely ridiculous. That pushes men to vote for someone that that will at least listen to them.
great show but I was annoyed by Soledad O'Brien belittling Andrew Sullivan's point - perspective - this is the problem there's no moderates anymore on the left side either (it is time for a third party)
Doris is optimistic, but she is fundamentally wrong about what this country wants. This country wants to live in peace, separately. That's always been the magic trick of this country. We're basically five different countries regionally, but we're the United States. It's never been the citizens that want to stay together, it's been the federal government. Which I want to stay together too, but saying that us citizens want to be inclusive is just not accurate. That's literally why Trump got elected right after Obama, and why Republicans and Democrats have been alternating the White House for seventy years. At the end of the day we are not united. And I think in the next couple of decades there's going to be a major event that will threaten our United status at it's core. Trump is just the first step
@@jasonnstegall I think we're going the way of Rome a lot sooner than almost anyone cares to realize. This current situation of the political/philosophic minority ruling power over the majority, especially due to anachronistic, opaque, and easily corruptible systems.... in the history of humanity that has never ended well. And in the history of humanity they never saw it coming
Strongly disagree, sir. "E Pluribus Unum" ..."Out of Many, One!" It's at the core of the Republic. It's on America's Great Seal (or official logo, if you like). It's even on our cash. It's the balance to the chaos and discord of our broad freedoms. Which is why white supremacist and fascist-loving Steven Miller and Donald Trump want to remove it from everywhere the government uses it. So far, it's only been removed from the "Presidential Challenge Coin", which trump, of course, turned into his personal marketing tool. It's sick, disgusting, twisted, fundamentally Un-American. The problem is that the more the Republicans squeeze and undereducated the poor and middle-classes (and blame the Democrats and Liberals for the resulting hardships) the more fearful/hurt/defensive/resentful/frustrated/angry/and finger-pointing Americans become. It's a win/win/win for Republican politicians, their donors, and big businesses.
shut up dude. this is pure blathering. New York City is the most diverse place in the history of the world and everyone lives next to each other in relative harmony. One of the lowest murder rates in the country.
Pssst, there IS another option, since ya mention it... I know it might be shocking to here this, but there’s a whole world of actual leftist politics which, aside from Bernie (who’s what I’d consider more to the right as a leftist politics go, as he’s a social democrat), doesn’t really exist on a national stage in this country, but could, and really should.. You want to try something “new”, maybe just try what so many of the greatest Americans who ever lived have wanted to try since the late 19th/early 20th century... maybe try that whole socialism thing... just a thought.. maybe if people had their material needs met, they wouldn’t hate each other so much? .. or we could just keep going down the neoliberal, “the market can solve anything” path, since it’s worked so well for us over the last 40 years... Honestly though, we kind of have to act fast if we want to save this country, or our world, bc we are quite literally up against the clock for the countdown to ecological disaster, unless we fix this shit REALLY damn fast... our grandchildren and great grandchildren (I’m a millennial, almost 32) will be the last generations of the world to see liberal democracy, unless climate change is addressed really goddamn soon.. ✊🏾✊🏿✊🏼✊🏽❤️🏴 (and please no “argumentum ad Venezuela”, bc that’s not what anyone who wants socialism is talking about... I expect that this crowd is smart enough to know that, but you always have one or two ppl talk about Venezuela, or North Korea, the USSR, etc.... nobody who’s fighting for socialism wants anything like those systems, so don’t waste my time commenting on authoritarianism, bc I won’t be listening, or answering that piffle)
The third party formed by a splinter of the Dems would guarantee that the GOP would run the show for a long time. They will vote in lockstep, just as they now follow Trump while we argue with ourselves. We'd end up with a Paul LePage as President. Wait . . . we already have one.
You seem to need to learn the difference between social democracy and socialism. You say not to mention Venezuela but that is a socialist country, and guess what, they also would have prefered things turned out differently for them. People who advocate for socialism often point to the Scandinavian model, but they are social democracies, not socialist countries and they do not seek to end capitalism as socialism and even democratic socialists do, rather they have a mixed, well regulated, capitalist society with social programs, and social programs aren't the same as socialist programs.
Hey/ I give you an Aloha for that and thumbs up/ its true what you say/ a lot of people are more dumb then I am and that's why thee world is so fucked up. I can never give up hope and love/ trying to be happy and do a little bit of good/ at least dont be bad and a republican or like Trump/ I might be back here but need to laugh a little bit more/ times are changing and fast/ wish I could be ignorant or take opiates. Maybe later Dimitry/ take care.
The problem with Socialism is that it assumes a perfect population in order to run a perfect society. People are not perfect, so the only way for a perfect society to function is with the authoritarianism you don’t want to mention, which has corrupted every legitimate attempt at socialism in the history of the world. Socialism is a nice idea, but there are always going to be some who take advantage, and some who resist the loss of liberty. When that happens you always end up with the purges, or the killing fields. Socialism should be a non-starter by now, but people just don’t want to be honest about history.
flopot So true. Apparently he doesn't want to talk about Venezuela. Well, we can talk about every other failed attempt. I was born in the Eastern bloc and left as a refugee with my family in the mid 80's. It sucked, I still remember the empty shops and my parents having to line up at four in the morning for bread and milk and toilet paper. Yes, there was free college, but a lot of very hungry and oppressed students. Now I'm not saying people shouldn't strive for free college and other social safety nets, it's an investment in the country's future, but there's a right way and a dumb, failed on dozens of occasion way to try and achieve it. Social democracy and democratic socialism are not interchangeable terms.
dadlove759 -- he did get plenty of talking time on the main show, though. I feel like he did get his points across. He's mostly worried that liberals are alienating white male voters by painting them all with the same brush. I think he may be right; Democrats certainly are way more appealing to women, minorities, etc. But at the same time he kept making it seem like the media and the left are SOOO demonizing all white men, and he was kinda painting the white men as the victims of our modern times. Ugh. They really don't have it that hard.... and wrongful accusations about sexual assault (which is what Sullivan was so concerned about) are about 2% of all cases.
how can you claim you're the party of Lincoln but still wave around confederate flags (fyi, Lincoln didn't take too fondly to confederates)...
My Thoughts - Robert E. Lee and the entire confederacy were traitors. Let's be clear on this fact. Lee led an army to destroy the United States of America. Lee is not by any stretch of the imagination an American hero. Lee gave his all to destroy this country. If any man led an army against the United States today, would we be erecting monuments in his honor?
18 U.S. Code § 2381 - Treason
“Whoever, owing allegiance to the United States, levies war against them or adheres to their enemies, giving them aid and comfort within the United States or elsewhere, is guilty of treason and shall suffer death, or shall be imprisoned not less than five years and fined under this title but not less than $10,000; and shall be incapable of holding any office under the United States.”
(June 25, 1948, ch. 645, 62 Stat. 807; Pub. L. 103-322, title XXXIII, § 330016(2)(J), Sept. 13, 1994, 108 Stat. 2148.)
Similarly, why should the confederate flag be revered when it was created by traitors? If you believe the confederate flag represents a "way of life" or "heritage" then you are honoring traitors such as the officers of the confederacy armies and the officials of the states that seceding and fought the U.S. You can better honor the common soldiers by being honest about the history of the Civil War and the damage done to the South by the traitors who killed and injured the common people because they wanted to continue to enslave people solely because of the color of their skin. Giving prominence and honor to the confederate flag means you still believe in the confederacy, not the United States, and you still honor those who believed in slavery.
@My Thoughts nicely said
My Thoughts >> Reality and facts are biased - they are true, and falsehoods are false. Can your snowflake feelings not handle that?
@@apgmk1970 tbf I don't feel Lee sought out to destroy the union, just to secede, and during the 1860's most people associated with their state rather than the country the lived in, when the US army invaded the South to restore order the people living in the south felt like they were being invaded
How can you be for Cesar Chavez and workers and not want to maintain borders?
This show needs to be longer. @billmaher
yes! let's go have lunch with bill
blind sycophants
He needs to switch to a less structured format and just have a long conversion with all these people rather than splitting it all up into segments. That's the way discussions like these are progressing, especially in the podcast format.
They need to get rid of the audience.
@@guygadbois1068 This has been his way of doing things for centuries, but sure me too would like to listen more of Bill, but he's not one on one kind of a guy. He's also a comedian who gets a full tank from the reaction of the audience. May Jah bless Billy boy, I really feel like you're the only podcast and narrator I need. Wish millennials could do the same, but they can't even get the accent right. I can't stand high-pitched millennial speech, so I'm unlikely to switch to Ben Shapiro podcast, although I do enjoy his wit, just not his way of emitting soundwaves.
The Dude abides.
ppl governing thru dead presidents names...or offspring..doing what u think they might have done in their name cause u dont like whos around now....couls also be governing backwards.... some presidents were lucky to have huge issues to back them in a big way.. lincolns happened to be one of the biggest
C'mon man!
Who's got your undies Walter?
"That rug really pulled the room together!"
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How do we talk to people who disregard facts, science, math , history, & common sence?
Find ppl who dont
Are you talking about people who insist that there are more than two genders, while also arguing that there is no actual difference between men and women?
flopot -- Gender is not scientific, sex is...there is legitimate research on this topic. Why not be open minded enough to see what it says? Or would you rather just make sarcastic quips on the internet for the singular purpose of validating your bigotry?
Flopot....WINS
@Killer sheep
"How do we talk to people who disregard facts, science, math , history, & common *sence*?"
You can start by spelling *sense* correctly, otherwise those same individuals you profess to talk to will ignore everything you have to say because if your grammar and spelling aren't up to par, they'll simply call you a hypocrite.
This game of communication is not easy, even worse now because nobody is communicating with each other anymore, which is why you as an individual need to make sure you are prepared to express yourself in a way that won't marginalize or belittle them and see your side of the view, and that unfortunately begins with your command of the English language.
Good luck.
What a reasonably conversation . It could be like this . It was like this before . Oh yeah Doris is lovely !
Once Soledad calemd down it got better.
Doris Kearny Goodwin realizing Sullivan is gay at the end of the segment is kind of adorable.
a kind of cap to the fact that she is sweet, but clueless. there is magical thinking on the right and left. If I hear one more historian talk about 'the better angels of our (human) nature -- which is mixed at best, well, just stop! Yes POWER begets POWER, and it's time for humanity - including supposedly EDUCATED people/liberals & neoliberals -- to wake up about human nature, the VERY REAL and bloodly lessons of history and POWER. The founder acknowledged this through designing 'checks and balances' --- and like in all rises of fascism/corporatism/1%ism/totalitarianism (maybe because the elite see what is coming along with climate change) -- all which is what we are seeing NOW - IN PLAIN SIGHT in the USA (esp fascism, as other places) - 'checks and balances' are, with the swamp of international crony capitalism, being eliminated. There are none so blind as them who WOULD NOT SEE! Ignorance, willful ignorance (to self-serving tripe can be served up and maintained), and the cluelessness of the neo-liberal elites - like sweet, soulful, intelligent Doris -- who is refusing to look, never mind see...what IS THERE right in front of her.
Bettina Zwerdling
BRAVO!
Bettina Zwerdling why is Goodwin allowed on TV? She is a disgraced plagiarist!
Bettina: she isn't being blind to power, she's saying americans are capable of empathy. regular americans being manipulated by the elite and their rivals in a grand global hegemonic battle over culture and history. she's saying people have the _potential_ to be informed and discerning of the facts.
bill was saying fairly pessimistic shit about how the country is irreversibly polarized; doris simply cites historical facts where strong leaders were able to unite the country thru great hardship. what part of believing in america is being clueless?
also, way to go off on a giant tangent over a benign remark about doris being adorkable.
Gregory Samuel Teo
clueless.
I'm going to start saying 'googlesurf' because Jeff Bridges does
try Google whack
He did? That’s hilarious. I will as well
Shit. He did twice. I don’t know if you googlesurf. I was google surfing in the morning
Alex - I wish Jeff Bridges was my dad,... and I'm 51. 🤗
Me too.
Doris Goodwin is the Jane Goodall of history. They both are profound teachers and women of wisdom, I have enormous love and respect for both.
That ending was classic. Absolutely hilarious, great show!
Mr Debunker I played it twice. Maybe I’m naive, butI couldn’t catch what either one of them said. What was it?
Never mind, I got it.
Mr. D: Prof. Goodwin's very genuine and hilarious embarrassment at her little throwaway line was wonderful. And I actually felt very good about it. She looked at Mr. Sullivan and saw and heard someone making a statement about how he would suggest Americans protect women's rights, not a guy sitting across from her defined completely by his sexual preference. That is where the country has to go in the way it treats all people, and before Pres. Trump, that was the direction I thought we were headed in. Trumpians would be amazed if they'd only look at an X-Group worker and see a worker instead of a member of X-Group, at how much less X-Group would insist on being treated as an interest group. How many Republicans hire an incompetent European-American who screws up a job or doesn't show up to work and say, "I'm never going to make that mistake again and hire one of _them_ ," compared to the number who would think or say those words if the worker happened to be Hispanic, or African-American, or gay, or Muslim or whatever? At the point when all, or virtually all Americans say, "That guy/gal screwed up. I'll never make that mistake again and hire him/her," we will have moved beyond the "identity politics" Republicans claim to abhor. Is it not Trump voters who need to take the lead on this and rebuke their president for getting very little done that significantly benefits the country (the new NAFTA seems to be little different from the old NAFTA on matters of significance, for example) while continuing to flatter them and degrade others not for their accomplishments or failures but simply because of their identities. Yay to Prof. Goodwin!
Gerald O'Brien He's gay
her last statement was hella adorable
That was probably the funniest end of Overtime ever.
Poor Doris Goodwin Kearns.
She blushed like a strawberry after Bill clued her in.
Girlfriend's Gaydar is broken big time.
She needs to get that fixed ASAP!
Soledad O'Brien didn't know either - "How do you know that?"
Priceless
@MonsterSound
No, that was Doris Goodwin Kearns who asked that. Not Soledad.
And if you listen carefully you can hear Bill saying in a low voice to her "He's gay". (as he touched her arm and tries not to get it in the mic)
Which is why she blushes and covers her face with her hands as Bill tells HER (and not Soledad) in a louder voice, "Believe me. We all know that!"
Soledad knows.
She's worked with Sullivan before both on CNN when she used to anchor in the mornings, and when he's been on MSNBC a few times.
Even before that line, I was remarking to myself that the Overtime is actually better than the whole show. The ending clenched it.
In fairness to Doris, Sullivan isn't exactly an instant give-away...the "gaydar" concept is bullshit! there're gay men out there that makes Liam Neeson look like Barbi!
This part of the show is the most indepth, and often profoundly gives us insights and action ideas. Thank you.
She's right our inability to care about others is ripping our country apart. We have to be empathic and respectful to each other and it doesn't start with our leaders, it starts with us.
fuck that, the right needs to get down and beg forgiveness before I will pretend to respect them.
It is said that the "stinks starts at the top"
I expect lots of violence next year. The guy who shot the Republican Congressmen in that baseball field is a bad omen for the future
@@urbanart7325 sadly I agree. I think many of the far right won't go quietly if things don't go their way.
We elected Trump that’s on us
Love this, and Jeff, thank you; I've been watching 58 years, you're a real human, among many actors, and public profiles that aren't.
“Well that’s easy for you, you’re not gonna get anybody pregnant”😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
She is a scholar, she spends years studying a topic or person prior to writing one word on the topic or person. That kind of dedication to truth and historical accuracy, as well as her love of baseball, that leaves no time for bs about sexual orientation.
Yokie, what are you talking about?
Maher said: "You're not going to get anyone pregnant", to Andrew (who is openly gay).
Maher only put his arm on Doris because she said: "How do you know?", and he said: "Believe me, we all know that."
Besides she even said that she was happy to laugh, too, @ 0:30
That is a ficking cut...what kind of asshole would say that...oh yeah...a Democrat-
Emma Peel and how is a gay man a Republican in the first place, then wants to talk about laws that have to do with women’s bodies? Twisted
Bravo25 Oh please, republicans don’t hide their distaste for LGBT people. You could’ve kept that dumb ass Democrat comment to yourself.
VOTE THIS NOVEMBER.
They’re not, he’s already confirmed. No one gets off their ass to vote for a guy who’s already in power.
*VOTING RED. Fuck all of you*
+Firzika Estetike We are royally pissed off about the stunt these treasonous Democrats are pulling. Look at the numbers. We are coming out in force.
How are the Democrats treasonous? Did they also conspire to violate election law in connection with a foreign power like Russia?
+CaptainHappen There is literally ZERO evidence of that. They are TREASONOUS because they CONTRADICT ALL traditional American values that this country was BUILT upon. In Russia and Germany in the 1920s, many Communists were expelled and fled and embedded themselves within western societies, mostly in England and America in our universities, media organizations, and governments. They then began a long march to bring Communism to the west. You *LITERALLY TREASONOUS* Democrats are on their side. All of these pro-feminism, pro-gay, pro-immigration stances are not accidents. They are planned attacks by the Cultural Marxists of the Frankfurt School, designed to take down western civilization and turn it Communist. They are based on a Post Modernist philosophy called Critical Theory. This is proven FACT yet you low IQ MORONS call it a "conspiracy theory", while simultaneously completely believing that Russia "HACKED" our election with zero evidence of it, lmao. There is no more room in this country for both of our "sides". One of us has to go, and it's not going to be us. There will be no room for any in-between.
Yes to a longer Overtime. And Goodwin is adorable at the ending.
Will never happen. America is the land of the free, sadly not for 99% of "We the People", just 1% fits in that category, (not trolling here). Well, in all fairness I got that information from the Media so I don't really buy it,I also was informed (just so be clear) again by the Deep State Media media owners,CNN BREAKING NEWS or TH-cam, don't recall, some channel,who cares. Story of the day was that the Earth is flat,not round as they told us long ago. Last example, that Space guy Elon Musk was asked a question if we could live in the "Matrix", his answer was basically (both Yes and No). This was long after the Media had made The "Fiction Movie" Matrix!.Good comment!
Was this not the best Overtime discussion ever or close to it? I was riveted to every word. It actually sounded like all the guests were interested in contributing their ideas to move the discussion forward rather to score points only for their side. A debate for the sake of finding a solution rather than defeating an opponent. Wowskies! More of this, please.
Watching this has made me feel so much better....thank you Bill for bringing thoughtful questions and giving us thoughtful answers....we shall see what we shall see....
Indeed!!
I just love Doris Kerns Goodwin. Her knowledge of history and optimism is infectious.
Best...Overtime ending...ever! :D
Agree, that joke came unexpected, but was funny as hell
Andrew has some great points on discourse. Always enjoy his presence on overtime, even if I don’t always agree with all his political takes.
How 'bout it....watching this in January 2022 and what Andrew said was prescient.
The majority of the American people wanted Hillary Clinton to be president but that didn't happen either. Democrats get more votes but end up with less seats and less wins. The founders wrote about tyranny of the majority well what kind of democracy lets 30 percent of the country have a 100 percent of the power? It's really frustrating losing with more votes and this is the second time that's happened in my lifetime and both elections have had catastrophic consequences for America. I'm sick of the electoral college.
No, they did not.
The majority of Americans in key swing states supported Trump. Don't be a sore loser.
Khal Brogo -- why should specific swing states decide elections? If each person gets to vote, then why shouldn't each vote throughout the whole country count the same?? That's what democracy means. The electoral college is, by definition, undemocratic. It makes no sense that 60,000 votes in Michigan and other rust belt states decided the election.... but the 3,000,000 votes that Hillary Clinton got more than Donald Trump did not count for anything. Those 3 million may as well have stayed at home.
The electoral college is undemocratic. Period. Gerrymandering is undemocratic. Picking partisan Supreme Court justices is undemocratic. Citizens United and corporate money in politics is undemocratic. America has great ideals about being an amazing democracy, but it actually would require a lot of reforms in order to get there.
@@mistym0rning Mob rule is tyranny. th-cam.com/video/V6s7jB6-GoU/w-d-xo.html
@@mistym0rning America is a Constitutional Republic not a democracy.
Who invited Andrew “I actually have the only valid opinion on this panel” Sullivan 🙄
There's a conservative on the panel besides sullivan.
I think you re thinking of soledad
This is the best show for America. We need more shows like this. No ads, long time, its almost as good as a podcast. but better production value.
Wow, ending the segment with a major burn. lol 😃😄🤗 Awesome!
jdez10 I had to watch it again because I was doing something at the time. You nailed it, sweet burn!
He fucking deserved it too. That pompous British asshole.
I don't think it was a burn at all. Andrew Sullivan is openly gay. I think that's what Maher was alluding to about him not getting anyone pregnant - because he doesn't have sex with females
Duh. That IS the joke. He has no stake in the matter...
Shouldn’t the gay men want Roe v Wade overturned, unwanted pregnancies make gay adoptions more needed! That reason alone, would flip the republicans pro-choice!
Was impressed /w David Jolly's thoughtful insights on the Party of Treason. Cheating to win is my hot button. We take trophies away from cheaters, not give them board seats where they can corrupt further the race. I'd prefer not to discuss BK but he's the cheaters' latest trophy.
Hillary cheated to win the Democratic primary, but I bet you rewarded her with the trophy of your vote, anyway.
I picked up My Betp signs last week for myself and my whole neighborhood. Hoping for the best. Willie Nelson hosted a concert in Austin. He has energized the Dems and Rafael Cruz has got to go. He meets with no one and never hold a town meeting. Hangs out in Washington, instead of Texas.
Mel Gonzalez Mel, give me good news. Does Beto have a chance in beating the Zodiac Killer?
That ending joke was fucking A+
thanks for the upload. I needed that/ Bill M. always makes me laugh/ thanks again and Aloha and laughter to all.
GODDAMN I LOVE YOU BILL!!! You and your show has been a life saver for me!!! Great guests and topics!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
This woman is a national treasure and she lost her husband in May of this year, 2018. She is a gem and a trooper and a Goddess to me!!! She cares about the American people. All of us.
Two old and wise souls - Dorothy and Jeff. There is hope for us yet.
"I think you're full of it, but I hear you"-what a roast goddam
Thank you Jeff Bridges for some sane thoughts.
and what is passion without truth? which conservatives deny.
deep.
@@oblivion2967 come and see me
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Considering the stakes on Roe vs. Wade, the ending just vanishes all the tension. When Maher responds with, "Well, that's easy for you, you're not gonna get anybody pregnant. Believe me, we all know that!: lol Epic! :P
a panel that agrees with eachother
“Google surfing” 😂
I love you Dude.
Man that Jolly fella sure is righteous.
chech He is one of my favs! One of the most intelligent (now former) republicans I’ve ever encountered and he puts country before party. This current batch are not conservative at all!!!
"..take heart in that and get them to the polls.."..wise words, Doris and thank you...
I feel so bad for Soledad during this whole show. The amount of restraint she showed as Sullivan multiple times created this false narrative out of "what people made of this whole Kavanaugh hearing" as being some large scale dangerous time for white men - then kept steamrolling over her clearly articulated completely different analysis and counter that NO, this "thing you're talking about "Andrew is primarily an old white Republican theatrical strategy to whip up their base... all the while Bill gave no real time for her to present a strong counter because he was sick of the topic.
Huge fan of Bill and there's no doubt it's his show and he navigates what he wants, but this was _not_ a sticking point that had already been picked over for 3 weeks by "the liberal media". Neverthless Bill pushed to move on and Soledad sucked it up with a kind of "graceful" acceptance- yet Andrew kept returning to the point, each time compounding his non-understanding what she was saying with misstatements of what she had NOT said. Anyone with a halfway decent eye for people's facial expressions could spell out her thought balloons as "what in the world is going on here? He's not heard one thing I've tried to say- and apparently Bill's just not interested in teasing this out for clarity"....
Just when I thought "Andrew on a rampage" couldn't get any worse, with time ticking away and 10:18 Bill finally directing a question for Soledad to answer, before Bill can read it, at 10:25 Andrew again steals the thunder and tries to tag onto the prior answer---which then distracts Bill, and we see Soledad play the good sport, but turning to look at Andrew with slight perturbed look of "ok, let's hear what comes out next", then finally gets her question and thoughtfully answers it.... only to have once again Andrew lecture yet one more time something "liberals just don't realize", making the preposterous statement at 11:56 that then made me laugh watching Soledad trying her damndest to tamp down her "Oh FFS, Man!" silent reaction!
I agree. He over talked her and then acted like a victim. I would have loved to hear Soledad’s complete thought but she was rarely given the chance. I wanted her to be more forceful but I understand why she wasn’t.
Soledad O’Brien PR / Starfish productions paid comment?
These are the questions we need to ask our officials.
Oh gawd, he's booking Andrew Sullivan again.
Ken Berry If solebeast is on he’s needed as a counterweight.
Really enjoyed the last ten seconds of the show with Doris Goodwin's response to Maher's quip about Andy Sullivan.
The internet is today's tower of babble, everyone's talking but no one communicating.
H
Best show since pre Bernie running in the primary. For at least a week you’ve renewed my faith Bill.
The dude!
That rug really did tied the room together
He still abides.
There's a tough question: "Hey Jeff Bridges, are you against childhood malnutrition?"
O, absolutely!
Soledad O'Brien is gorgeous.
Her smile!
Duh!
Not only that, but is feisty as hell and worthy of the name 'O'Brien. She should run for office
oh, please
Ha, irony... It is the expression of one's meaning by using language that normally signifies the opposite, typically for humorous or emphatic effect. I would assume, hopefully, that your comment was meant ironically, right? Because otherwise you are a complete and total moron.
The last 10 seconds is hilarious. The historian is so awesome.
Please bring Cenk Uygur on the show!!!!!!!!!!
Erica Fuller lmfao
12 MINUTES OF OVERTIME!! YES! :))
The Big Lebowski greatest movie of all time besides The Godfather.
Yeah,well,thats just,like,your opinion man. It is the greatest
Excellent way to end the segment!
Soledad is beautiful!! 😉😉😉
She’s a lying, racist cunt.
Then @ 6:39 she flashes her leg 😋😋
One day, someone will use the word "cunt" to refer to your mother, sister or daughter, thereby following the lead of people such as yourself. Congratulations.
The ending with embarrassed Doris was hilarious
yes bill, I agree with andrew - it's NOT therapy to communicate respectfully. this is where progress begins....
This is why Bill is number 1 political comedian. Overtime is always funny.
It sucked how they completely ignored Andrews point, that's exactly how Trump got in power, why are we still ignoring it? Absolutely crazy.
power is not for sharing power is for taking.
@@aiwassl2357 Exactly. Since the beginning of time, governments have been afraid of their citizens. The people have the power and can vote craziness out.
Exactly Jeff... Think globally...act locally. I teach Environmental Science to teens. I walk the line between trying to imbue my enthusiasm but also grounding it in facts. Kids get it. They want a better future for their environment that will impact their health and quality of life.
Does Andrew Sullivan think it's November? What happened to the goat?
Thank you Doris Goodwin, brilliant
*"Let's listen to both sides"*
1 minute later
Bill: *"There's the Democrats and the traitors."*
Very high IQs on this panel.
the US needs more people like David Jolly.
Andrew Sullivan made some solid points and got shouted down
Eerily ironic watching this almost 3 years later...
Andrew Sullivan has become insufferable lately.
Is he really insufferable, or just a conservative making a rational point? Bloody hell - I love Bernie, but that sort of dismissal of someone without any actual justification is what makes the entire left look bad.
There is justification... a credible witness. When do women's accounts and experiences and pain get to be taken into consideration? As a woman who's been assaulted, watching how people defend and even uphold someone like Kavanaugh as a victim while mocking and berating Ford has honestly been retraumatizing. Because now I really know that people just don't seem to care... Additionally, Sulliovan kept interrupting O'Brian while being able to make his terrible, unfounded claims.
He tends to drone on. Just make you point and allow for rebuttle.
And I've read articles by him recently that were right on the money, then he makes idiotic comments like "Liberals ought to welcome the end of Roe." Or when he buys the whole white male martyrdom angle that the GOP pushes.
Because he insisted on stating the same fundamental falsehood. She wouldn't stand for it. Why should she?
I have to say as a white man I just don't feel threatened by people who want equality. Perhaps because I'm egalitarian or that I ignore the extremest who think I don't deserve a say because I am white, and like most extremist, they are a loud minority that makes them perfect for painting an entire movement as ridiculous.
We need more bill Maher on tv
Wouldn't it make sense for centre-left and centre-right people to form a new moderate party?
you describe a country as center-left or right...…………………..not a person...………….every person is either left , right or center
bot, troll or uneducated?
I found this rather interesting www.uniteamerica.org
interesting website ,...…………………..I will try to address it later...……………………...even if you desire to break up grid lock , do you admit that we have clear differences in our perspectives from the beginning of the legislative process?
@@robinsss I think everyone has a different perspective. I have never lived in the US but my studies of different democracies have led me to believe that a lot of the "tribalism" that America is facing is largely a product of only having two parties. In proportional representative democracies and federations where there are no nationally operating parties, people seem to be freer to develop their own perspective on matters, instead of just picking a side and falling into the mo(u)ld. When political parties are forced to negotiate with each other the people's interests are heard the loudest. It's unwise for any multi-party democracy to allow any single party to govern on it's own.
Oh Doris😂 that was hilarious!!
richest country in the world and "should the government be doing more to ensure kids can get food" is a legitimate question
Where are the parents of these starving children? It’s the richest country in the world, and you are telling me that two responsible people can’t feed their kids?
I guess “responsible” is the key word there.
who knows? maybe strung out, maybe in jail, maybe just flat out pieces of shit.
you think a kid having shit parents means he/she should go hungry?
Since when is the US the richest country on earth?
roughly 1890
The US has been the richest country on Earth basically since it’s inception. When British and Hessian soldiers invaded New York during the revolution they were astonished at the wealth that the average citizen possessed.
I am not suggesting that starving children should not be fed, but I would remind you that it is the responsibility of individual people to take care of their neighbors and themselves. If they choose to use the government as a tool, then so be it, but there are other, more cost effective ways to make this happen, if more people are willing to engage in their communities.
Mostly I just wanted to be a dick and blast the dead beat parents who care more about taking care of themselves, but who are so often portrayed as helpless victims.
"How do you know that?" Doris Goodwin is a sweetheart.
There’s an inherent contradiction in Bridges saying “Go local” is a conservative mantra, which is right, but so too is the “Personal responsibility” and “Don’t wait for government” lines he espouses.
Ultimately it’s going to take collective action to get the government you want which, as Maher correctly identifies, is the only institution large enough to deal with these huge systemic crises.
Kingston, NY, never seen anything like it for real, ever.
7:00 Phil Donahue, Ed Shultz, Keith Olbermann
Yeah, and all those guys were kicked off MSNBC
@Jcorb kicked off. Everyone you guys are saying they got rid of
@Jcorb the point is MSNBC is just as horrible as the other mainstream media. Anyone not towing the line they want towed is gone
@Jcorb funny because idiots like bill Maher act like MSNBC is great and not biased bullshit
Love you Bill
Trump has the greatest sense of humor, his best jokes. .. the disabled impression, the war prisoner joke , the sexual assault victim impression... if you don't get it. ... well, sad!
what is funny about making fun of someone's disability, trauma, etc. I don't get where you are coming from.
The problem is that there are people who would be serious.
@Proper thank you!! And i guess i need to turn down my sarcasm a few notches, hence....?
@Proper also could you please even begin to explain where this "George Thompson" guy is coming from. .. or going... ?
@Angry Old Man except , Trump wasn't joking then, if you do your research, as the stable genius did ... Ted is a carpet bagger, he succumbed to blackmail, that's all.
I love Doris! And her books
Very interesting that the right-of-center bald man that keeps shooting down everybody's positive conversation about our current situation says " we need to talk to each other".....
#whoopsieDazedandconfused
#wakkadoowarning
he was pandering to white nationalists. not openly calling for it, but hinting at it.
David Jolly is such a respectable guy and commendable.
how about national strikes? walkouts? mass civil disobedience? if they reverse roe vs wade. vote and hope for the best? gtfoh
Bill was on w/ the humor that night. "Wear protection" & the Andrew quote, "You're not gonna get anyone pregnant." Ha. Have a great week everyone! & please go out & vote ( :
Is it me or does Mr. Sullivan not look well?
HIV does that to you
Think about, though, Ton’, sudden weight loss.
Perhaps he could pay DKG's plastic surgeon a visit...
he looks more fit/lost weight?
Actually
It
Does
Seem
Great show!
Soledad O'Brien is one of the reasons people vote for Trump.
What kind of snowflakes make people vote a certain way because they are triggered by a passionate person?
@@DaddyFatSzack
She doesn't listen. She won't even consider that men might have legitimate concerns about their world. She acts like it is completely ridiculous. That pushes men to vote for someone that that will at least listen to them.
Anyone else see the sparks of love between Doris and the Dude? Hubba Hubba Ding Ding!
great show but I was annoyed by Soledad O'Brien belittling Andrew Sullivan's point - perspective - this is the problem there's no moderates anymore on the left side either (it is time for a third party)
that being said former Republicans or those concerned about where their party is headed MUST VOTE DEMOCRAT to send a message
there are plenty of left moderates, what are you talking about?
surgedeb she wasn’t given a chance and conceded the point. He over talked her and then yelled to finish.
98% of Americans make the rest of us look bad.😂😂😂
Andrew Sullivan is such a snowflake
Doris Goodwin is suchhh a delight. Love her.
I want to see Cenk Uygur on Bill's show, if you support this motion, upvote! Thx.
It's THE DUDE ! Love u JEFF and The. Big Lebowski. Awesome show as always Bill xox
Doris is optimistic, but she is fundamentally wrong about what this country wants. This country wants to live in peace, separately. That's always been the magic trick of this country. We're basically five different countries regionally, but we're the United States. It's never been the citizens that want to stay together, it's been the federal government. Which I want to stay together too, but saying that us citizens want to be inclusive is just not accurate. That's literally why Trump got elected right after Obama, and why Republicans and Democrats have been alternating the White House for seventy years. At the end of the day we are not united. And I think in the next couple of decades there's going to be a major event that will threaten our United status at it's core. Trump is just the first step
+J P Book sales are also a pretty good indicator ...
Eduardo -- As regards the last 2 sentences of your statement... You don't realize just how right you are... AND VERY SOON.
@@jasonnstegall I think we're going the way of Rome a lot sooner than almost anyone cares to realize. This current situation of the political/philosophic minority ruling power over the majority, especially due to anachronistic, opaque, and easily corruptible systems.... in the history of humanity that has never ended well. And in the history of humanity they never saw it coming
Strongly disagree, sir. "E Pluribus Unum" ..."Out of Many, One!" It's at the core of the Republic. It's on America's Great Seal (or official logo, if you like). It's even on our cash. It's the balance to the chaos and discord of our broad freedoms. Which is why white supremacist and fascist-loving Steven Miller and Donald Trump want to remove it from everywhere the government uses it. So far, it's only been removed from the "Presidential Challenge Coin", which trump, of course, turned into his personal marketing tool. It's sick, disgusting, twisted, fundamentally Un-American. The problem is that the more the Republicans squeeze and undereducated the poor and middle-classes (and blame the Democrats and Liberals for the resulting hardships) the more fearful/hurt/defensive/resentful/frustrated/angry/and finger-pointing Americans become. It's a win/win/win for Republican politicians, their donors, and big businesses.
shut up dude. this is pure blathering. New York City is the most diverse place in the history of the world and everyone lives next to each other in relative harmony. One of the lowest murder rates in the country.
Doris fell out 😂🤣. Classic. Love that lady.
Pssst, there IS another option, since ya mention it... I know it might be shocking to here this, but there’s a whole world of actual leftist politics which, aside from Bernie (who’s what I’d consider more to the right as a leftist politics go, as he’s a social democrat), doesn’t really exist on a national stage in this country, but could, and really should.. You want to try something “new”, maybe just try what so many of the greatest Americans who ever lived have wanted to try since the late 19th/early 20th century... maybe try that whole socialism thing... just a thought.. maybe if people had their material needs met, they wouldn’t hate each other so much? .. or we could just keep going down the neoliberal, “the market can solve anything” path, since it’s worked so well for us over the last 40 years... Honestly though, we kind of have to act fast if we want to save this country, or our world, bc we are quite literally up against the clock for the countdown to ecological disaster, unless we fix this shit REALLY damn fast... our grandchildren and great grandchildren (I’m a millennial, almost 32) will be the last generations of the world to see liberal democracy, unless climate change is addressed really goddamn soon.. ✊🏾✊🏿✊🏼✊🏽❤️🏴
(and please no “argumentum ad Venezuela”, bc that’s not what anyone who wants socialism is talking about... I expect that this crowd is smart enough to know that, but you always have one or two ppl talk about Venezuela, or North Korea, the USSR, etc.... nobody who’s fighting for socialism wants anything like those systems, so don’t waste my time commenting on authoritarianism, bc I won’t be listening, or answering that piffle)
The third party formed by a splinter of the Dems would guarantee that the GOP would run the show for a long time. They will vote in lockstep, just as they now follow Trump while we argue with ourselves. We'd end up with a Paul LePage as President. Wait . . . we already have one.
You seem to need to learn the difference between social democracy and socialism. You say not to mention Venezuela but that is a socialist country, and guess what, they also would have prefered things turned out differently for them. People who advocate for socialism often point to the Scandinavian model, but they are social democracies, not socialist countries and they do not seek to end capitalism as socialism and even democratic socialists do, rather they have a mixed, well regulated, capitalist society with social programs, and social programs aren't the same as socialist programs.
Hey/ I give you an Aloha for that and thumbs up/ its true what you say/ a lot of people are more dumb then I am and that's why thee world is so fucked up. I can never give up hope and love/ trying to be happy and do a little bit of good/ at least dont be bad and a republican or like Trump/ I might be back here but need to laugh a little bit more/ times are changing and fast/ wish I could be ignorant or take opiates. Maybe later Dimitry/ take care.
The problem with Socialism is that it assumes a perfect population in order to run a perfect society. People are not perfect, so the only way for a perfect society to function is with the authoritarianism you don’t want to mention, which has corrupted every legitimate attempt at socialism in the history of the world.
Socialism is a nice idea, but there are always going to be some who take advantage, and some who resist the loss of liberty. When that happens you always end up with the purges, or the killing fields.
Socialism should be a non-starter by now, but people just don’t want to be honest about history.
flopot So true. Apparently he doesn't want to talk about Venezuela. Well, we can talk about every other failed attempt. I was born in the Eastern bloc and left as a refugee with my family in the mid 80's. It sucked, I still remember the empty shops and my parents having to line up at four in the morning for bread and milk and toilet paper. Yes, there was free college, but a lot of very hungry and oppressed students. Now I'm not saying people shouldn't strive for free college and other social safety nets, it's an investment in the country's future, but there's a right way and a dumb, failed on dozens of occasion way to try and achieve it. Social democracy and democratic socialism are not interchangeable terms.
Fmr Congressman: "It focuses your perspective" (having a baby)
Bill: "I'm sure it does." Hahahahahaha
Andrew Sullivan is horrible
That is what u think . Not saying u are wrong I'm Always Right, But that women kept cutting him off so u did not get to here him out.
dadlove759 -- he did get plenty of talking time on the main show, though. I feel like he did get his points across. He's mostly worried that liberals are alienating white male voters by painting them all with the same brush. I think he may be right; Democrats certainly are way more appealing to women, minorities, etc. But at the same time he kept making it seem like the media and the left are SOOO demonizing all white men, and he was kinda painting the white men as the victims of our modern times. Ugh. They really don't have it that hard.... and wrongful accusations about sexual assault (which is what Sullivan was so concerned about) are about 2% of all cases.
i have always admired jeff bridges. he treats hollywood as a workplace and not a way of life. he and his brother seem so grounded
Good for you, David Jolly!
I hope Bill has her back on for her new book. Wonderful guest.