We installed the Max6 and 4990 G2 combo in our Kraton 6s V5 and it has impressed us so far. We are running it on 6s and it is a rocket. We need to do more testing, but so far it is amazing! And the bluetooth works just fine, at least on a Samsung android phone.
Yeah generally the Bluetooth isn't bad but I have had a few issues with it over the years with their other Bluetooth adapters and with a couple of software updates that did not go well. I don't really mind using it in general I just think making it the only option is a pretty bold move.
I did it I ordered it came in had two bash sessions and all I got was clogging. hobby wing has terrible customer service first time getting from them and I’m really disappointed
I'm looking at the G2 combo systems for my 4S outcast build. Wish they all had the bluetooth built in. I would get this for one of the EXB outcast or kraton.
I'm hoping Hobbywing will cone out with an upgraded version of their Max4 ESC. Capable of 16S. Yeah, I know, I like pushing my RCs to the Max. No pun intended.
I think the XLX2 would crush it. The Max 5 G2 would be more of a fair comparison but even then the XLX2 would probably win. Castle tends to put less safety restriction on their power output which is why you mostly see Castle ESCs in speedrun vehicles
@REPORODGE unfortunately as far as I know for the Bluetooth connection you can only use your phone. The newest programmer does have Bluetooth and you might be able to connect to your computer through it and use the Windows link software though I haven't tried that I don't believe.
I've got an older, non sensored HW 4985/1650kv motor, that I want to put in my kagama, but i think the torox 185 won't handle that big of a 6s motor. Really debating on what 160a esc i should get. Any suggestions?
Have a max5 g2 with 780kv hobbystar 56112 on 12s outcast, and even without a fan it runs surprisingly cool. Wish it included bluetooth to see the amps its drawing. Looks like the max6 is gonna be fine for 8s 1/5 scale.
@DoRC I noticed it ramps slower or maybe for longer than the stock Spektrum/rebranded hobbywing esc, I put it down to being a 8s vs 12s difference. Now I'm wondering if I should try the sensored motor. I would've started with the new max5 g2/motor combo, but it's a few millimeters too long.
@@ChrisHarmon1 Yep that's exactly what we've experienced too even with no load on the motor It takes like a half a second to ramp up. Depending on your bashing style it might not be a big deal but I find it really annoying
Finally the new Max 6 is out, I might have to buying the 4990 1,650kv combo for my XO-1 and maybe my future limitless V2 or other cars and the 5690 1,250KV combo for my X-Maxx. Now i feel like an idiot for buying my old 5687 motor earlier this month but at least if these work and there are no fires or any other issues i don't have to buy a Firma 160 for my X-Maxx. Can't wait to get my hands on some of these combos for myself.
Same here. I checked the site just a few minutes after it came out and they showed sold out so I'm not sure if I missed it or if they haven't started selling them yet. We shall see!
@@DoRC Yeah i think they'll start selling them soon i hope so since i'm really impressed with my G1 in my X-Maxx and my XO-1. I think next year i'll upgrade them both to G2 systems and sell my G1 stuff.
@@DoRC Yeah, We shall see i figured out i can move the rear battery tray forward in my XO-1 to fit a bigger motor before my 4985SL 1,650KV\Max 6 G1 combo earlier this year. Before the Max 6 G2 came out yesterday i considered the MMX 8s for my XO-1 but now i might consider the Max 6 G2 with the 4990SD G2 1,650KV for XO.
@@cjchannel12RC Yeah it really depends on what you're doing. If you're doing speed runs the castle ESC might be better just because they are a little less restrictive. That's why most speedrunners use castle stuff.
Wow looks good I'm looking to get the corally asuga xlr roller I'm thinking of putting a max 6 in it but I don't know what to do should I just go for aax 8 or max 6 or should I wait for the new max 6 G2???
I think for the Asuga roller I would recommend the Max 8 or even the 8BL 150. The Asuga isn't super heavy and the max 6 might be overkill for it. That being said there is no kill like overkill :-)
Hey I just installed my Max 6 G2 and put in 20/46 hardened gears (Robinsons and GPM) . Gotta wait 24 hours for the loctite to cure. What punch setting did you use? This goes up to 9 instead of 5 😅 Im Running stock motor too.
@@DoRC okay thanks, ill do that. Its crazy now, i had it on my worktop, i very slightly tapped the accelerator when i turned it on to test my 21krpm fans and the thing flew, luckily i managed to catch it lol. Thanks for your help.
I'm not sure yet. In general the castle ESCs are better for speed runs because they have fewer safety restrictions on them. I believe the MMX8S will still be more powerful outright but for general bashing this would be a great option and the G2 motors or waterproof which is really nice.
Me too only thing is I lose durability with g2 lineups. The micro wires inside the cable , treat cable well alot going on in there . My g1 I’ve gotten years and never burned one up
Yeah I've seen more complaints about the G2 ESCs than the G1 systems. I've had more weird problems with them myself but nothing that I can actually single out.
@@RcPlayer-tt2vw Yep. I've considered making a video about the issues I've had but they're so all over the place and seemingly not shared by most people that I'm hesitant to do that.
How would this go with an Xmaxx with stock motor? And is this actually better than the regular Max 6 V3? For me, max 5 is not an option due to size, but this seems perfect
Should be good with the stock motor though you'll be underutilizing this ESC quite a bit. I consider this ESC to be pretty superior to the G1 Max 6. It has the same power as the original Max 5. The only real downside is the limitation of only being able to program it through Bluetooth. As long as Bluetooth works that's fine but if it doesn't that might be annoying.
@@DoRC Thank you, I don't mind under utilising because that means lower temperatures, Bluetooth sounds cool as long as I can set and forget rather than having to connect to Bluetooth every time I want to use it.
Man I wish I left mine in the box , definitely fun truck but mine been on bench , finally get tuned good diffs holding strong and I snapped first axle 😂 with the rear diff blows it’s hard to see , it’s sun gear inside I had g2 max 8 than I put max 6 1650
@@RcPlayer-tt2vw lol! Ikr! I went on a spending spree on cvd’s for the rear and new diffs etc.. I want its debut voyage to last more than two battery packs. 😂
@@DoRC for the time being I’ve modified a stock mount to accept a spektrum motor because I don’t want to overpower the rig. I’m thinking I’ll probably go with the max6 g2 when/if I decide to upgrade. Worst case I return/resell it and replace just the esc with the max5 g2 since they use the same motor. Best case I might sell the max5 g2 and put them both on max6. Depending on pricing that is.
@rc_bash_performance I don't know. There have been firmware updates that have made it better but sometimes you'll get what seems like cogging Even when there's no load on the motor and there's been other weirdness reported. Because of this I usually just recommend getting the combo if you're going to get the G2 ESC
It would be an absolute monster in a 1/8 scale buggy. Honestly it might be too much power. The max 8G2 combo would still probably be all the power you could ever need would be cheaper easier to install and a lot more manageable
@philipbrits2984 Don't be. The Max 8 G2 is no more likely to catch fire than any other ESC. There were a couple of instances of catastrophic failure that were widely talked about but I haven't seen any indication that they are unreliable
Hola llevo Max 6 G2 y 4990 , lo he programado sin protección, y 180 km h se me corta y se cae voltaje. Sabes por qué puede pasar??? Llevo 2 baterías de 4s zeee 120c y la app marca mínimo voltaje 23v . No sé por qué corta si lo he programado sin protección. Ayúdame por favor
I'm not 100% sure but it's likely that below a certain voltage the batteries are sagging to the point of undervolting so far that the ESC just cuts out altogether. The voltage curve on these batteries is very nonlinear and once they get low enough they will sag a lot under load and that's probably what your experiencing.
You can run it without though I have found that at least with the Max 5 it doesn't like running in sensorless mode and has a pretty bad hesitation on initial throttle application.
@@gabeross27 The Max 6 G1 fits in the spot for the stock ESC. I'm not sure if the sensor cable will be in the way on the G2 though. It's pretty tight in there. I'm running an external BEC on mine. The castle WPBEC 2.0 is a great option. Holmes hobbies makes a bypass harness that allows you to power just the servo from the BEC and keep your receiver running off the ESCBEC as the Traxxas receiver does not like voltages over 6 volts
@@DoRC max 6 g1 already in mine. Flysky radio and perfect pass servo. Would have liked to throw a external Bec for more power. I’ll do some research on them
I've killed two max 6's this summer alone and just snapped the motor shaft on my 1650kv motor. I know I push my rigs but for the $ I'm spending I expect a little better quality
@@rccrawlingadventuresandmor979 I've broken a few motor shafts over the years and killed several ESCs. Whereas a couple of those ESCs were definitely my fault I could not attribute any specific thing I did to the broken motor shafts or most of the ESCs that have died. Could have been user error but sometimes things just break.
Bluetooth programming... unnecessary imo. Relying on an online app. What if it the bluetooth dies ur esc is pretty much toast. We getting too lazy i guess. Cant use a simple programmer or use a manual and use ur memory for beeps
You know that's an interesting point. I assumed that they would also have a port for a normal programming card but I don't actually see one on there. I hope that's not the case because only having Bluetooth as an option definitely seems like a problem.
Guaranteed to go up in flames as usual. Gotta love the hobbywing fanboys defending this garbage I've seen this company burn more shit down then any other.
Interesting. I don't think I've really seen a higher incidence of failure on hobby wing than any other brand. They do have far more ESCs out there than any other brand given all the OEM stuff they do so it might just appear to be more prevalent. Which ESC's specifically have you had fail?
@@rccrawlingadventuresandmor979 I wouldn't say they never do. I personally had a Max 8 catastrophically fail. It didn't burn to the ground or anything but it did smoke and melt the plastic.
We installed the Max6 and 4990 G2 combo in our Kraton 6s V5 and it has impressed us so far. We are running it on 6s and it is a rocket. We need to do more testing, but so far it is amazing! And the bluetooth works just fine, at least on a Samsung android phone.
Yeah generally the Bluetooth isn't bad but I have had a few issues with it over the years with their other Bluetooth adapters and with a couple of software updates that did not go well. I don't really mind using it in general I just think making it the only option is a pretty bold move.
nice!!! i smoked my other max6 combo so ill definetly be getting this. great vid bro
Glad you enjoyed Thanks for watching!
Installing mine into my Xmaxx as I watch this! LOL! New sub too!
Awesome let me know how it goes!
@@DoRC Forgot to get a new motor mount, waiting for it now
Hopefully more ESCs in the future will be Bluetooth enabled.
I already have Bluetooth enabled adapters, gps, chargers & temps sensors...
Yeah I think it's a great option! Thanks for watching :-)
Wow I was waiting for it I knew it how much when
Sold out at the moment so I'm not sure about pricing. I'm keeping an eye on it hoping it comes back in stock soon.
@@DoRC not sold it. It's not even released yet idiot. Preorders start on the 17th
Holy shit. Imagine on Traxxas sledge!!!! What a monster combo.
Yeah that would be pretty ridiculous! Thanks for watching :-)
I did it I ordered it came in had two bash sessions and all I got was clogging. hobby wing has terrible customer service first time getting from them and I’m really disappointed
The sledge with this combo for what I did have it was truly amazing.
I'm looking at the G2 combo systems for my 4S outcast build. Wish they all had the bluetooth built in. I would get this for one of the EXB outcast or kraton.
Yeah I think the built-in Bluetooth is a great option! Hopefully it works properly.
I'm hoping Hobbywing will cone out with an upgraded version of their Max4 ESC. Capable of 16S. Yeah, I know, I like pushing my RCs to the Max. No pun intended.
I'm sure they will eventually :-) Maybe even a Max 3!
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Be interesting to see a Max6 G2 vs XLX2 head-to-head (running comparable HW & Castle motors).
I think the XLX2 would crush it. The Max 5 G2 would be more of a fair comparison but even then the XLX2 would probably win. Castle tends to put less safety restriction on their power output which is why you mostly see Castle ESCs in speedrun vehicles
Bring it on 💯
Heck yeah!
@@DoRCnice video bud but when it comes to the software can we run it on a laptop or something like that rather than my small screen mobile
@REPORODGE unfortunately as far as I know for the Bluetooth connection you can only use your phone. The newest programmer does have Bluetooth and you might be able to connect to your computer through it and use the Windows link software though I haven't tried that I don't believe.
I've got an older, non sensored HW 4985/1650kv motor, that I want to put in my kagama, but i think the torox 185 won't handle that big of a 6s motor.
Really debating on what 160a esc i should get.
Any suggestions?
The 185 might be able to handle it. It is technically 185 amp though I haven't actually tried it.
Would really like to get this with the 5690 for my kraton the bec seems pretty sweet
1/8 or 1/5?
Have a max5 g2 with 780kv hobbystar 56112 on 12s outcast, and even without a fan it runs surprisingly cool. Wish it included bluetooth to see the amps its drawing. Looks like the max6 is gonna be fine for 8s 1/5 scale.
Do you have any issues with hesitation off the line? Myself and others have had problems running that ESC sensorless.
@DoRC I noticed it ramps slower or maybe for longer than the stock Spektrum/rebranded hobbywing esc, I put it down to being a 8s vs 12s difference. Now I'm wondering if I should try the sensored motor. I would've started with the new max5 g2/motor combo, but it's a few millimeters too long.
@@ChrisHarmon1 Yep that's exactly what we've experienced too even with no load on the motor It takes like a half a second to ramp up. Depending on your bashing style it might not be a big deal but I find it really annoying
I hope this will fit the xmaxx
It should be about the same size as the G1 but the sensor cable might be in the way. I'm not sure
Finally the new Max 6 is out, I might have to buying the 4990 1,650kv combo for my XO-1 and maybe my future limitless V2 or other cars and the 5690 1,250KV combo for my X-Maxx. Now i feel like an idiot for buying my old 5687 motor earlier this month but at least if these work and there are no fires or any other issues i don't have to buy a Firma 160 for my X-Maxx. Can't wait to get my hands on some of these combos for myself.
Same here. I checked the site just a few minutes after it came out and they showed sold out so I'm not sure if I missed it or if they haven't started selling them yet. We shall see!
@@DoRC Yeah i think they'll start selling them soon i hope so since i'm really impressed with my G1 in my X-Maxx and my XO-1. I think next year i'll upgrade them both to G2 systems and sell my G1 stuff.
@cjchannel12 we shall see. I'll keep checking!
@@DoRC Yeah, We shall see i figured out i can move the rear battery tray forward in my XO-1 to fit a bigger motor before my 4985SL 1,650KV\Max 6 G1 combo earlier this year. Before the Max 6 G2 came out yesterday i considered the MMX 8s for my XO-1 but now i might consider the Max 6 G2 with the 4990SD G2 1,650KV for XO.
@@cjchannel12RC Yeah it really depends on what you're doing. If you're doing speed runs the castle ESC might be better just because they are a little less restrictive. That's why most speedrunners use castle stuff.
Wow looks good I'm looking to get the corally asuga xlr roller I'm thinking of putting a max 6 in it but I don't know what to do should I just go for aax 8 or max 6 or should I wait for the new max 6 G2???
I think for the Asuga roller I would recommend the Max 8 or even the 8BL 150. The Asuga isn't super heavy and the max 6 might be overkill for it. That being said there is no kill like overkill :-)
@@DoRC yes so true. Thank you, you have said what I was thinking but just was not shore what to do. Thank you
It seems that max6g2 and 4990 combo are gonna be one of the best combo for bashing X Maxx. What do you think?
I think the 5690 will be a much more appropriate motor. 4990 might be okay but we'll just have to see
Hey I just installed my Max 6 G2 and put in 20/46 hardened gears (Robinsons and GPM) . Gotta wait 24 hours for the loctite to cure.
What punch setting did you use? This goes up to 9 instead of 5 😅
Im Running stock motor too.
Start it on the default and just see how it goes. The default settings are usually pretty good for getting started
@@DoRC okay thanks, ill do that. Its crazy now, i had it on my worktop, i very slightly tapped the accelerator when i turned it on to test my 21krpm fans and the thing flew, luckily i managed to catch it lol.
Thanks for your help.
How will these compare to castle monster 8x not sure which to get i will b bashing n some speed runs
I'm not sure yet. In general the castle ESCs are better for speed runs because they have fewer safety restrictions on them. I believe the MMX8S will still be more powerful outright but for general bashing this would be a great option and the G2 motors or waterproof which is really nice.
Me too only thing is I lose durability with g2 lineups. The micro wires inside the cable , treat cable well alot going on in there . My g1 I’ve gotten years and never burned one up
Yeah I've seen more complaints about the G2 ESCs than the G1 systems. I've had more weird problems with them myself but nothing that I can actually single out.
@@DoRC well put , weird problems .
@@RcPlayer-tt2vw Yep. I've considered making a video about the issues I've had but they're so all over the place and seemingly not shared by most people that I'm hesitant to do that.
How would this go with an Xmaxx with stock motor? And is this actually better than the regular Max 6 V3?
For me, max 5 is not an option due to size, but this seems perfect
Should be good with the stock motor though you'll be underutilizing this ESC quite a bit.
I consider this ESC to be pretty superior to the G1 Max 6. It has the same power as the original Max 5. The only real downside is the limitation of only being able to program it through Bluetooth. As long as Bluetooth works that's fine but if it doesn't that might be annoying.
@@DoRC Thank you, I don't mind under utilising because that means lower temperatures, Bluetooth sounds cool as long as I can set and forget rather than having to connect to Bluetooth every time I want to use it.
I’ve been waiting for this release for a loooong time now. EXB Mojave has been in the box for a year and didn’t want to spend $$$ on a castle system.
Man I wish I left mine in the box , definitely fun truck but mine been on bench , finally get tuned good diffs holding strong and I snapped first axle 😂 with the rear diff blows it’s hard to see , it’s sun gear inside I had g2 max 8 than I put max 6 1650
@@RcPlayer-tt2vw lol! Ikr! I went on a spending spree on cvd’s for the rear and new diffs etc.. I want its debut voyage to last more than two battery packs. 😂
Yeah I think a lot of people have been looking forward to it!
I've had really good luck with my EXB diffs.
Hopefully the new 200 amp model isn't too much power for it
This would roll out right when I bought a max5 g2 for my Xrt. Now I have to debate if I want to do a max6 in my Xmaxx or a max5 g2 again
Yeah that's a tough one. The Max 6 is now theoretically as powerful as the Max 5G1. It should be pretty stout.
@@DoRC for the time being I’ve modified a stock mount to accept a spektrum motor because I don’t want to overpower the rig. I’m thinking I’ll probably go with the max6 g2 when/if I decide to upgrade. Worst case I return/resell it and replace just the esc with the max5 g2 since they use the same motor. Best case I might sell the max5 g2 and put them both on max6. Depending on pricing that is.
@dylanwhite6539 seems like a reasonable plan.
Do you think 5690 will fit in the limitless or infraction by chance?
I don't think it will without a custom mount.
@DoRC I was thinking length wise. I have a hw4985 and it's tiiiight. Only 1 way to find out hah
@Ryndel let me know how it goes :-)
yeah arrma has a 56 series mount
Does it work with a G1 motor like the 56113 800kV?
Technically yes but these G2 ESCs are hit or miss with sensorless motors.
@@DoRC Why?
@rc_bash_performance I don't know. There have been firmware updates that have made it better but sometimes you'll get what seems like cogging Even when there's no load on the motor and there's been other weirdness reported. Because of this I usually just recommend getting the combo if you're going to get the G2 ESC
Will this go nice in a tlr typhon? . I hope so . I just bought it
It would be an absolute monster in a 1/8 scale buggy. Honestly it might be too much power. The max 8G2 combo would still probably be all the power you could ever need would be cheaper easier to install and a lot more manageable
@DoRC 😆thanks. To late lol.I just want an absolute monster ☠️thanks you for the information
@@NatesRCclips Well you definitely will have that!
Well that sold out quick 🥴
Hopefully the Bluetooth works ok.
Yeah we'll see how it goes :-)
Always giving us the latest news thereby draining my wallet. Thanks! Thanks? 😂
I'm here to help Thanks for watching :-)
I wonder if the motor will fit in a talion exb?
The smaller one should.
Still deciding between a max8g2 and a max6 g2 combo system. Scared of the max8 catching fire
@philipbrits2984 Don't be. The Max 8 G2 is no more likely to catch fire than any other ESC. There were a couple of instances of catastrophic failure that were widely talked about but I haven't seen any indication that they are unreliable
Hola llevo Max 6 G2 y 4990 , lo he programado sin protección, y 180 km h se me corta y se cae voltaje. Sabes por qué puede pasar??? Llevo 2 baterías de 4s zeee 120c y la app marca mínimo voltaje 23v . No sé por qué corta si lo he programado sin protección. Ayúdame por favor
I'm not 100% sure but it's likely that below a certain voltage the batteries are sagging to the point of undervolting so far that the ESC just cuts out altogether. The voltage curve on these batteries is very nonlinear and once they get low enough they will sag a lot under load and that's probably what your experiencing.
Pero eso me pasa con las baterías cargadas a tope. Cuál es la solución poner baterías mejores??
Gracias por ayudarme y contestar
Can you use this max 6 without the sensor cable or is it sensored only?
You can run it without though I have found that at least with the Max 5 it doesn't like running in sensorless mode and has a pretty bad hesitation on initial throttle application.
@@DoRC looking for xmaxx esc’s that fit in the stock mount with the 1600kv motor. Just really wanted the 8.4v Bec. Looks like I need a external ones
@@gabeross27 The Max 6 G1 fits in the spot for the stock ESC. I'm not sure if the sensor cable will be in the way on the G2 though. It's pretty tight in there. I'm running an external BEC on mine. The castle WPBEC 2.0 is a great option. Holmes hobbies makes a bypass harness that allows you to power just the servo from the BEC and keep your receiver running off the ESCBEC as the Traxxas receiver does not like voltages over 6 volts
@@DoRC max 6 g1 already in mine. Flysky radio and perfect pass servo. Would have liked to throw a external Bec for more power. I’ll do some research on them
@@gabeross27 I have run that exact setup with both the internal BEC and the WPBEC 2.0 and the external BEC definitely will be better.
I've killed two max 6's this summer alone and just snapped the motor shaft on my 1650kv motor. I know I push my rigs but for the $ I'm spending I expect a little better quality
I've never killed a max6. I have broken a few motor shafts over the years though.
User error.
@rccrawlingadventuresandmor979 could just be bad luck too.
@@DoRC nah, it's just user error.
@@rccrawlingadventuresandmor979 I've broken a few motor shafts over the years and killed several ESCs. Whereas a couple of those ESCs were definitely my fault I could not attribute any specific thing I did to the broken motor shafts or most of the ESCs that have died. Could have been user error but sometimes things just break.
Build in or built in? 😂
Eh?
Bluetooth programming... unnecessary imo. Relying on an online app. What if it the bluetooth dies ur esc is pretty much toast. We getting too lazy i guess. Cant use a simple programmer or use a manual and use ur memory for beeps
You know that's an interesting point. I assumed that they would also have a port for a normal programming card but I don't actually see one on there. I hope that's not the case because only having Bluetooth as an option definitely seems like a problem.
I see the fan port is still a port for programming.
@@nitroman365 okay that's good. It looks like it was just a two-pin port from the picture.
@@DoRC just double confirmed with still image that it is a 3 pin port.
@nitroman365 good!
Max 6 g2 is junk
What issues have you had with it?
@DoRC used it three times then the capacitor exploded.
Guaranteed to go up in flames as usual. Gotta love the hobbywing fanboys defending this garbage I've seen this company burn more shit down then any other.
Interesting. I don't think I've really seen a higher incidence of failure on hobby wing than any other brand. They do have far more ESCs out there than any other brand given all the OEM stuff they do so it might just appear to be more prevalent. Which ESC's specifically have you had fail?
No you haven't. you've never never seen one hobbywing ESC catch on fire. You're thinking of Traxxas electronics
@@rccrawlingadventuresandmor979 I wouldn't say they never do. I personally had a Max 8 catastrophically fail. It didn't burn to the ground or anything but it did smoke and melt the plastic.