Clear to-the-point video, thanks! For the past few years my focus has mostly been European/German/HRE armour of the period 1350-1450 and it's interesting to see the differences and commonalities with European brigandine/coat-of-plate armour. I'd love to see you show the leg- and arm-armour too.
Its a ming dynasty armour. Qing armour is a direct copy of ming armour because the Manchu that march into china were actually Manchu contingent serving under the Ming.
@@xinyiquan666I really wanna disagree here,nurhaci I while he was rewarded by the Ming court was never really under Ming control. In fact even under his son Huang Tajii some jurchen tribes were still independent especially the so called “wild jurchen” however it is true the kitchens bordering Korea was originally part of the Ming dynasties influence
@@hiimryan2388 stop NS, the nurhaci was an army official of ming court, and these are all written in history records, there are formal documents, nurhaci regard him as part of ming and , huang taiji is just want to replace ming, also manchu are not wild jurchen, they are not jurchen people , manjus are mostly made up with chinese,
This is a great video and was exactly what I was looking for. Thanks for uploading! Late Ming and then Qing dynasty armor is some of the coolest. From your profile picture it seems you have the leg and arm pieces as well. I look forward to seeing that if you make a video on it.
@@quintinoromano6172 In a way yes, but chinese brigandine is pretty unique itself. It's one of the only brigandines that cover the entire body including legs, neck, armpit. Plus their helmets with plumes just makes them look pretty cool.
@@Jake-dh9qk when it comes to aesthetics, most people can agree that japanese armor is definitely the most beautiful. it also looks very intimidating especially with the masks and some of the helmets being fitted with horns. also it has been shown many times that plate armor was the most effective type of armor. hence the reason why the west continued to mass produced plate armor well into the 17th century. even the japanese foot soldiers (ashigaru) were equipped with plate armor and arquebuses.
@@stompstompstomp9394 People just aren't exposed to how Chinese armor were like. Not even Chinese people. They did not glorify their military as other nations. Which sucks because Chinese armors are wild.
@@samuraijackoff5354 @Samurai JackOff Chinese people does exposed to it own history which included armor :V it just that China lack a soft power unlike japan or korean had that they didn`t get much attention plus the west villainize China for over a decade and down play Chinese culture was also a factor
Thank you for showing how one would put on the armor. As someone that loves to look at non-European armors and loves the look of a brigandine and wished pop culture would show more beyond just a couple games like Kingdom Come and Mordhau, it's nice seeing how one would put on a Chinese brigandine.
@@cathayarmory I wouldn't be surprised if brigandine from Europe took influence from the Chinese brigandine if the latter was spread out to some parts. Then again, I'm not well-versed in history or human migrations. Still, Chinese brigandine has a nice look to it.
I had never even heard of a Chinese brigandine before, but now I'm fascinated. Somebody put serious thought into the sides, especially where they curve under the arms, and it actually looks more comfortable than modern body armor, in that aspect.
Brigandine came from China in the first place during Yuan Dynasty and was passed onto Europe through Mongolian Empire. The word “Brigandine” was an English transliteration of the Chinese word “布甲衣” which means fabric armoured jacket.
Recently been obses with Manchu history and this video is just great although would be great to see a full armor worn by the nobles, princes and emperor
Man, I wish European-style brigandine could be done up with buttons; all those straps are annoying to do up (front straps are easier than side straps).
If you are talking about HMB and heavy SCA the historical mongol armors also cannot handle that too. What you need is non-historical armor to do those "full contact combat".
Steel mastery is a bit too expensive, alot of their things are marked up 30-50% more than than what I see other reputable armor smiths do. The best ones I've seen are Master Uley doing Khorasan armor (Modern day Middle East) a early mongol-esqe heavy armor, and Sharukhan Market that focuses on Middle east and Mongol armor. But if you buy certain parts and comission aesthetic pieces that make up Chinese armor, you could assemble yourself a functional kit. Like sharukhan Market's Turanian Dragon Chest Armor. It costs 1,800 dollars , Looks hella bad ass and only slightly over priced when comparing to other pieces of similar styles.@@AssasiCraftYogUscus
This type of armor was originally equipped by the Mongols, and later inherited by the Han and Korean people. The Manchu people of the Qing Dynasty also inherited the armor of the Han people of the Ming Dynasty. If I put the armor of the Ming Dynasty together with the armor of the Qing Dynasty, you should not recognize it
@Simple Saying manchu is part of china is as good as saying Mongolia is part of china, tibet is part of china and by extension, everything the Mongols conquered was part of china! You can agree with that???
@Simple To be precise manchu is a people, not a region. The Jianzhou Jurchen (before they were called manchu) lead a military organization consisted of themselves, some Mongols, and some Han chinese in a rebellion against the Ming Empire in the early 17th century and eventually defeated Ming and established the Qing. For over two centuries the Manchu Emperors of the Qing dynasty ruled over former Ming's territory and by various means eventually expanded influence/control over other regions that became the core of modern China. It is part of history of China and most manchu people today also hold chinese citizenship or consider themselves chinese. In recent years, however, there are more and more self-learnt or unlearnt internet "historians", with their different, sometimes contradicting and wild political views, trying to redefine what has been and what should be "China". Anyway, I am presenting historical armor so I will keep my channel academic.
Clear to-the-point video, thanks! For the past few years my focus has mostly been European/German/HRE armour of the period 1350-1450 and it's interesting to see the differences and commonalities with European brigandine/coat-of-plate armour. I'd love to see you show the leg- and arm-armour too.
Thanks for the support! Leg and arms planned.
@@cathayarmory Looking forward to it!
This is probably the only vid on youtube that shows how to put on Qing brigandine: bravo, truly unique.
Its a ming dynasty armour. Qing armour is a direct copy of ming armour because the Manchu that march into china were actually Manchu contingent serving under the Ming.
@@alohasnackbar3544 More like evolved from the Ming there's minor changes probably to make it more fitting
@@alohasnackbar3544 they did not march into china, but they were part of china, manchu was border troops under ming court
@@xinyiquan666I really wanna disagree here,nurhaci I while he was rewarded by the Ming court was never really under Ming control. In fact even under his son Huang Tajii some jurchen tribes were still independent especially the so called “wild jurchen” however it is true the kitchens bordering Korea was originally part of the Ming dynasties influence
@@hiimryan2388 stop NS, the nurhaci was an army official of ming court, and these are all written in history records, there are formal documents, nurhaci regard him as part of ming and , huang taiji is just want to replace ming, also manchu are not wild jurchen, they are not jurchen people , manjus are mostly made up with chinese,
This is a great video and was exactly what I was looking for. Thanks for uploading! Late Ming and then Qing dynasty armor is some of the coolest. From your profile picture it seems you have the leg and arm pieces as well. I look forward to seeing that if you make a video on it.
Ming/Qing brigandine is too underappreciated despite being very effective. Too bad the samurai armor of the 16th century got more attention.
samurai armor more good looking, brigandine looks like uniform, not very unique.
@@quintinoromano6172 In a way yes, but chinese brigandine is pretty unique itself. It's one of the only brigandines that cover the entire body including legs, neck, armpit. Plus their helmets with plumes just makes them look pretty cool.
@@Jake-dh9qk when it comes to aesthetics, most people can agree that japanese armor is definitely the most beautiful. it also looks very intimidating especially with the masks and some of the helmets being fitted with horns. also it has been shown many times that plate armor was the most effective type of armor. hence the reason why the west continued to mass produced plate armor well into the 17th century. even the japanese foot soldiers (ashigaru) were equipped with plate armor and arquebuses.
@@stompstompstomp9394
People just aren't exposed to how Chinese armor were like. Not even Chinese people. They did not glorify their military as other nations. Which sucks because Chinese armors are wild.
@@samuraijackoff5354 @Samurai JackOff Chinese people does exposed to it own history which included armor :V it just that China lack a soft power unlike japan or korean had that they didn`t get much attention plus the west villainize China for over a decade and down play Chinese culture was also a factor
Thank you for showing how one would put on the armor. As someone that loves to look at non-European armors and loves the look of a brigandine and wished pop culture would show more beyond just a couple games like Kingdom Come and Mordhau, it's nice seeing how one would put on a Chinese brigandine.
you are welcome. Actually the more I look at it the more similarities I found of these armor and the European armor.
@@cathayarmory I wouldn't be surprised if brigandine from Europe took influence from the Chinese brigandine if the latter was spread out to some parts. Then again, I'm not well-versed in history or human migrations. Still, Chinese brigandine has a nice look to it.
I had never even heard of a Chinese brigandine before, but now I'm fascinated. Somebody put serious thought into the sides, especially where they curve under the arms, and it actually looks more comfortable than modern body armor, in that aspect.
yeah the historical armor was very important military equipment. Must be practical.
Brigandine came from China in the first place during Yuan Dynasty and was passed onto Europe through Mongolian Empire. The word “Brigandine” was an English transliteration of the Chinese word “布甲衣” which means fabric armoured jacket.
@@WSOJ3 That is interesting to know. Thank you.
i try on finding ming era brigandine but not only just ming era you are the only one chinese brigandine video on youtube too
totally
Most excellent....well done mate nice clip cheers Michael
Thats a really good Video! You dont see a lot of Qing Dynasty armor nowadays. I think someone should make a game set in this period.
Im your fan
Recently been obses with Manchu history and this video is just great although would be great to see a full armor worn by the nobles, princes and emperor
Cool, I didn't know how that type of armour was put on.
I love qing armor
Please post more videos! 👍👍👍
Pls include the ming dynasty sword too. Some show straight handle like a katana some wore curved handle.
Nice video
Man, I wish European-style brigandine could be done up with buttons; all those straps are annoying to do up (front straps are easier than side straps).
european brigandines tend to be designed to taper at the waist, i never understand why they didnt just use a belt like this and call it a day
very cool
Cool.
너무나도 좋아요.
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manchu Barbarian Brigandine Armor
beautiful, you done one of these in PC?
not yet. Just steel plates for these so far
之前还以为围脖和头盔在一起的
清早期实战甲的围脖,高级的有用绳挂护耳上的,普通的也有直接分开的
Where to buy it?
custom order only. Please email me: cathayarmory@gmail.com
Huang di wan sui
Too bad I can't really find any Chinese armor that can be used for sports combat. The closest is Mongolian.
If you are talking about HMB and heavy SCA the historical mongol armors also cannot handle that too. What you need is non-historical armor to do those "full contact combat".
Steel mastery would be the place to go
Steel mastery is a bit too expensive, alot of their things are marked up 30-50% more than than what I see other reputable armor smiths do. The best ones I've seen are Master Uley doing Khorasan armor (Modern day Middle East) a early mongol-esqe heavy armor, and Sharukhan Market that focuses on Middle east and Mongol armor. But if you buy certain parts and comission aesthetic pieces that make up Chinese armor, you could assemble yourself a functional kit. Like sharukhan Market's Turanian Dragon Chest Armor. It costs 1,800 dollars , Looks hella bad ass and only slightly over priced when comparing to other pieces of similar styles.@@AssasiCraftYogUscus
Manchu armor not han chinese armor
This type of armor was originally equipped by the Mongols, and later inherited by the Han and Korean people. The Manchu people of the Qing Dynasty also inherited the armor of the Han people of the Ming Dynasty. If I put the armor of the Ming Dynasty together with the armor of the Qing Dynasty, you should not recognize it
@@张胜远he is most definetely a troll.
This type of armor was originally installed by the Han people, not the Mongols.
@@张胜远
@@张胜远 This type of armor was originally installed by the Han people, not the Mongols.
Manchu brigandine, not chinese.
@Simple OF COS NOT! LOL! China was taken over by Machu! So technically, there is no more china, it was manchu for 400 years.
@Simple Saying manchu is part of china is as good as saying Mongolia is part of china, tibet is part of china and by extension, everything the Mongols conquered was part of china! You can agree with that???
@Simple To be precise manchu is a people, not a region. The Jianzhou Jurchen (before they were called manchu) lead a military organization consisted of themselves, some Mongols, and some Han chinese in a rebellion against the Ming Empire in the early 17th century and eventually defeated Ming and established the Qing. For over two centuries the Manchu Emperors of the Qing dynasty ruled over former Ming's territory and by various means eventually expanded influence/control over other regions that became the core of modern China.
It is part of history of China and most manchu people today also hold chinese citizenship or consider themselves chinese.
In recent years, however, there are more and more self-learnt or unlearnt internet "historians", with their different, sometimes contradicting and wild political views, trying to redefine what has been and what should be "China".
Anyway, I am presenting historical armor so I will keep my channel academic.
this type of armor was widely used in the Ming dynasty
Read more before make a comment. Ming and Korea both used this kind of armor.
清代铠甲和明代铠甲最大的区别是头盔明代留长发有个发髻所以头盔是椭圆的比较高,清代人剃发所以头盔比较矮,清朝人祖先在满洲就是为了方便穿戴铠甲头盔所以把头发剃了
这是错误认知。顶发髻其实无法稳定带盔。必须把发髻解开,配上合适的衬帽。另外明代也不存在什么高盔,都是差不多的高度。