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this occurred during/between the two pelopennesian wars and now i am REALLY curious how it influenced the athenian-spartan rivalry so i'm gonna watch but you might do a 10 minute or even short on strategic implications since "thucydides trap" is topical.
As a person who lives in Salamis, thank you for this great video ! Also fun fact : the region of Kynosoura means "Dog's tail". The story goes that when the Battle of Salamis took place, a fisherman was watching the battle. When he saw that the Greeks won, he was so happy that he jumped into the sea so that he could go and hug the warriors. The fisherman had a dog with him, and when the dog saw that his master ( the fisherman ) was having a hard time swimming he jumped too so that he could help him. But in the end they drowned together watching the Greeks winning.
A Korean viewer who enjoys watching the History Marche channel. Why isn't the video of Hannibal Barca and the Second Punic War coming up again? And how about East Asian war history?
Love that you decided to do some coverage of Greco-Persian wars, for some reason, there's not a lot of channels that do so. I don't doubt we'll see more episodes and the conclusion of it soon enough.
@@ap572 are you joking? There are like a million of these videos and about Alexander. All history channels cover this, yet never cover the rise of Cyrus the great and how the Persians defeated 4 major empires to create their first empire.
4:22 thats putting it mildly, he had a slave whisper in his ear each night "sire remember the athenians" to make sure he didnt forget how pissed he was
I was in Greece with Michael’s Amazing Tours. The excellent guide explained how the Persian ships were significantly larger and could not manoeuvre as well so the Greek vessels could move better to attack. The shallower water and unusual islands made this a difficult task for the Persian navy that was not equipped and fought a day too early.
both battle of thermopylae and salamis is an excellent example how to use the environment for your advantage. persian wars was the beginning of the western civilization
Just as the oracle's prophecy predicted that the death of Leonidas would spare the city of Sparta, the prophecy of Salamis stated that Athens would be abandoned, leaving behind only a wooden wall to remain standing. Themistocles believed that the wooden wall would be the victorious Greek navy.
Long-time Greek subscriber here. Congrats for the video, you covered all the important aspects of the battle in great detail. It was a decisive victory for the Greeks against the odds that secured the naval theatre of the war and enabled the greek counterattack to begin in earnest. Please make a video with the formation of the Delian League that followed afterwards!
Fun fact: the folks defending the Akropolis were there due to a prophecy by the oracle in Delhi that the wooden wall would save Athens. While this was mostly interpreted as the navy , some citizens thought of literally the wooden walls that at the time were around the Akropolis. According to legend (or maybe Greek Propaganda) , the Persians had some difficulty in even conquering that.
You should really redo the battle of Las Navas de Tolosa (1212) , It involved Order of Santiago Order of Calatrava Knights Templar Knights Hospitaller Knights of St. George and French, German, Occitanian, Italian and Spanish Crusaders against a force 2x bigger then them (11K v 25K) It layed the foundation for the dismantle and destruction of the Almohads in Iberia. It was the turning point for the Reconquista basically, by 1285 the Reconquista was already lost.
Another wonderful historical coverage episode about naval clashed between Parthian fleets and Greeks 🇬🇷 where smaller number of Greeks Ancient warships defeated enormous numbers of Parthian Ancient warships ...thank you an excellent ( History Marche) channel for sharing this magnificent episode
Ahh.. the famous Battle of Salamis (Ναυμαχία τῆς Σαλαμῖνος)! The Battle of Heroes (ἠ μάχη τῶν ἤρώων), as I like to call it. At the Battle of Salamis, in my own words, the sons of Greece became one soul (μία ψυχή), one body (ἔν σῶμα), one heart (μία καρδία), and one nation (ἔν ἔθνος). At Salamis, all the differences and feuds between the Greek poleis were set aside and forgotten. At Salamis, the Greek World (Ελληνικός Κόσμος) became one (μόνος). For the first time in history, the Ionic, democratic, and philosophical Athens (Άθῆναι) fought side by side with the Doric, oligarchic and militaristic Sparta (Σπάρτα), which was by far the greatest historical rival of the Athenians throughout the entire Hellenic history. From my historical perspective, the Battle of Salamis was the battle that "proved and testified the honor and the courage of the sons of Greece" (ἠ μάχη ἤτις ἐδήλωσεν καὶ ἐμαρτὐρησεν τὴν τιμήν καὶ ἀνδρείαν τῶν υὶῶν τῆς Έλλάδος). With the exception of Thebes (Θῆβαι), which sided with the Persians, and Argos (Άργος), which became weak after the overwhelming Spartan victory at the Battle of Sepeia (494 BC), each major Hellenic city contributed with the war effort. For ALL Hellenes, whether Athenians, Spartans, Corinthians, Chalcidians, or Megarians, the defense of Greece became a matter of freedom or death (ελευθερία ἤ θάνατος). At Salamis, the Greeks were not only fighting for their respective cities (πόλεις), but also for their very autonomy as a nation. According to Herodotus, Athens, which was the "queen and light of Attica" (Η βασίλισσα καὶ τὸ φῶς τῆς Αττικῆς), sent 180 triremes under Themistocles; Sparta, which was not a thalassocratic power, sent 16 ships; Megara, in turn, sent 20 ships; Corinth, the "mother of Syracuse" (ἠ μήτηρ τῶν Συρακουσῶν), sent 40 ships under Admiral Adeimantus; Aegina, the main island of the Saronic Gulf, sent 30 triremes; Chalcis, the "queen of Euboea" (ἠ βασίλισσα τῆς Εὐβοίας), sent 20 ships; and Epidaurus, the "treasure of Argolis" (ὀ θησαυρός τῆς Άργολίδος), sent 10 ships. Moreover, even the city of Croton (Χρότων), one of the most important Greek colonies of Magna Graecia, sent one ships to Salamis. However, amazingly enough, the Battle of Salamis was not the only battle waged by the Greeks on that day. On the very same day in which the Athenians, Spartans, Corinthians, and Megarians were fighting the Persians at Salamis, the Greeks had to face another major threat against their independence: the Carthaginians In 480 BC, probably on the same day in which the Battle of Salamis took place, Hamilcar, the Carthaginian King, sent thousands of soldiers towards Sicily (Σικελία), which was once the very heart of Magna Graecia (Μεγάλη Έλλάδα/Μεγάλη Έλλάς), as the Greek colonization in Sicily and Southern Italy became known. Just like Xerxes wanted to seize Greece and add it to his glorious Achaemenid Empire, the Carthaginians also coveted Sicily and its fertile lands. However, just like Xerxes at Salamis, the Carthaginians were also overwhelmingly defeated by the Greeks at the decisive Battle of Himera (480 BC), in which King Hamilcar himself was killed! Due to the Dorian alliance between Syracuse and Akragas, which were by far the two most important Greek states of Sicily, the Greeks managed to wipe out the Carthaginian Army. Therefore, on that day, Greek Sicily was also saved alongside mainland Greece proper. After the resounding Greek victory at Himera, Syracuse, which was then under the leadership of its Tyrant Gelon I (485-478 BC), became by far the most important city of Sicily! In my own words, Syracuse became the "queen of Sicily (ή Βασίλισσα τῆς Σικελίας) and the "treasure of Greater Greece" (ὀ θησαυρός τῆς Μεγάλης Έλλάδος). The Carthaginians, for their part, only returned to Sicily 70 years later! Moreover, the Carthaginian losses at Himera were so overwhelmingly great that the political system of the city itself was changed! From 480 BC onwards, Carthage ceased to be an absolute monarchy. 480 BC, therefore, was probably the "Annus Mirabilis" in Greek history. On the same day, the Greeks managed to repel two overwhelming foreign invasion against their lands on two fronts (Greece and Sicily), thus preserving their autonomy and way of life.
As the narrator noted, the Greeks were more experienced and likely the better swimmers, which could have meant that they could be rescued and fight another day. The Persian fleet wasn't, which probably meant that more of their crew members drowned and couldn't be easily replaced.
You can’t get your history knowledge exclusively from TH-cam dude. “King of kings” had a long use in Persia and was intended to distinguish the absolute ruler from lower kings or satraps, without taking away his subjects regional kingship titles.
Why exclude the very first action of the battle where the Corithians turned back and sailed away fleeing. The Greeks were terrified during this battle.
@konkats-tg7pf in fact there is no archeological evidence for the entire Persian invasion of Hellas, not even Hellenic trophies commemorating their victories! (???)
Why mention the oft debated idea that Xerxes forces were all slaves? Most academics of the period agree that slavery in the Eastern empire of the Persians was very different from the Greeks considered slavery, and that's the Persians we're unlikely to have used "slaves" in a combat roll
Whoever has a woman 'warrior' as commander or military advisor is doomed, as history facts prove. Artemisia was first to flee in panic ramming its own ships in order to escape and that spiraled into total chaos. Xerxes was right in engaging a naval battle as Phoenicians were absolute master seamen and controlling the sea would've finished off the Greeks . One other note: hoplites could not maneuver the 15ft long sarissa in the confined space of a ship they had the short spears, shield and sword of hypaspits. Battle in a confined space like that relies purely on valor and determination.
1st: Artemisia was not a military advisor, she was a woman, and she was Greek, and that there is something that´s known about her, doesn´t mean, that she wasn´t at all important to the great king, but little is known about his true military advisors. She was Greek, and because at that time Herodot (also Greek) "invented" historiography, he was able to find something about her, but not about the others. Her Rolle isn´t depicted proportionally in this video. 2nd: Artemisia was one of the last ones to flee, and her contingent was (enslaved) Greek, equal to the free Greek ones, and the best among the Persians. 3nd: No matter how good the Phoenicians were, they were no Greeks, I checked that... 4rd: the hoplites used no sarissa yet, the sarissa was introduced 100 years later by Philip the 2nd. Their spears were half that long as a sarissa. But good try...
@@klausbrinck2137 1. I am talking about the video description of Artemisia. It seems to be a general forcefully 'pushed' narrative about all these female 'warrior commanders' which is totally fake given the social status of women at that time. 2. How was she the last to flee when she barged her way thru her own ships? 3. I didn't say the Phoenicians were better than the Greeks at naval warfare, I said they were elite master seamen which is a fact. 4. Hoplite spear was 12ft long and Macedonian sarissa was 16ft long. Either way a 12ft hoplite spear could not possibly be wielded on those conditions not even a 8ft long spear as you mentioned. Javelins for first impact then swords and shields.
@@ComboMuster At her position, the fleet was 5 rows deep, if she had to ram a single ship to freedom/escape (as witnessed), was because most of the ships weren´t there anymore.
@@Techtalk2030 Yeah, that´s why the Grecoroman empire survived the western half by nearly 250%, because the Greeks were "conquered" by the Romans. The Romans were just as the Greeks were saying, barbarians, and at 350AD, it was obvious, that those barbarians were unable to build something sustainable, so, they handed the empire´s keys back to the Greeks, as it should have been from the begin on. The Romans were retards. It just took them ages to realize, cause, you know, retard-things.
It's algorithm time again I see. Well, event he algorithm must get tired of the same sacrifice all the time. Let's sacrifice a pair of sheep this time around. Mutton instead of beef.
The battle the united the Greeks and saved Democracy and western civilization for millenia to come... The success of course, led to Themistocles turning out very famous/powerful several years later, so much, that he was considered a threat to Democracy, and was exiled for several years, which he took like a man, cause the rules were clear.
@@ProvocateurOfEmotions Persians didn´t really exist after the Greeks took their lands with Alexander. And if they existed, they were a shadow of their former self... To that, the Persians of later times, weren´t the same as those, they were mainly Parthians (who lived on the Persian lands by now), who found liking in their enemies calling them "Persians". Part of the Roman senate first called the Parthians "Persians", for reasons of war-mongering/propaganda, but Persia was already and forever dead since Alexander´s time.
@@klausbrinck2137Parthians were descended of Artaxerxes who was an Achaemenid Persian and were essentially the same people speaking the same language, just different tribe. Also Sassanids were directly descended of the Sassanids Persians and defeated Rome and Greece.
@@ProvocateurOfEmotionsthey defeated the hephtalites in the end. Arabs was totally different. Less so overestimating and more so the empire was already dead basically due to civil war, plague and war with byzantines.
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When are you gonna finish your hannibal series?
It's Paid Content on another of their Channels. You have to pay to see the War Against Hannibal and the Pacific War Series
this occurred during/between the two pelopennesian wars and now i am REALLY curious how it influenced the athenian-spartan rivalry so i'm gonna watch but you might do a 10 minute or even short on strategic implications since "thucydides trap" is topical.
As a person who lives in Salamis, thank you for this great video ! Also fun fact : the region of Kynosoura means "Dog's tail". The story goes that when the Battle of Salamis took place, a fisherman was watching the battle. When he saw that the Greeks won, he was so happy that he jumped into the sea so that he could go and hug the warriors. The fisherman had a dog with him, and when the dog saw that his master ( the fisherman ) was having a hard time swimming he jumped too so that he could help him. But in the end they drowned together watching the Greeks winning.
That's sad to hear.
@@theprogenitor951 Yeah its a sad story unfortunately
@@the_new_napoleon7038 lol
A Korean viewer who enjoys watching the History Marche channel. Why isn't the video of Hannibal Barca and the Second Punic War coming up again? And how about East Asian war history?
agreed!
I was in Po Hang, I had a good time with the ROK Marines, love this channel myself
I was in Po Hang, I had a good time with the ROK Marines, love this channel myself
He already covered the entirety of Second Punic War and Hannibal Barca's campaign in extensive detail.
@@ap572They didnt finish it tho lol
Love that you decided to do some coverage of Greco-Persian wars, for some reason, there's not a lot of channels that do so. I don't doubt we'll see more episodes and the conclusion of it soon enough.
Likely the result of Age of Empire 2 making a dedicated campaign DLC specifically for the Greco-Persian wars. Highly recommend btw
@@ap572 are you joking? There are like a million of these videos and about Alexander. All history channels cover this, yet never cover the rise of Cyrus the great and how the Persians defeated 4 major empires to create their first empire.
4:22 thats putting it mildly, he had a slave whisper in his ear each night "sire remember the athenians" to make sure he didnt forget how pissed he was
The detail on the maps are incredible.
One of my favorite battles narrated by my favorite history youtuber after a hard day's work. Its like gaining my sanity back in Dark Souls.
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I was in Greece with Michael’s Amazing Tours. The excellent guide explained how the Persian ships were significantly larger and could not manoeuvre as well so the Greek vessels could move better to attack. The shallower water and unusual islands made this a difficult task for the Persian navy that was not equipped and fought a day too early.
both battle of thermopylae and salamis is an excellent example how to use the environment for your advantage. persian wars was the beginning of the western civilization
at the same day, greeks fought against the whole world in the battle of imera and the battle of salamis and they emerged victorious
Just as the oracle's prophecy predicted that the death of Leonidas would spare the city of Sparta, the prophecy of Salamis stated that Athens would be abandoned, leaving behind only a wooden wall to remain standing. Themistocles believed that the wooden wall would be the victorious Greek navy.
Ive been waiting for a HistoryMarche Salamis for SO long. Dreams do come true.
The way you depict the tension and tactics involved in the battle is masterful. This video is a treasure trove of knowledge!
Long-time Greek subscriber here. Congrats for the video, you covered all the important aspects of the battle in great detail. It was a decisive victory for the Greeks against the odds that secured the naval theatre of the war and enabled the greek counterattack to begin in earnest. Please make a video with the formation of the Delian League that followed afterwards!
Another amazing video as always HM!
Without a doubt, the battle I had most hoped you would represent.
Great video.
Midweek video?! YES PLEASE 😊😊😊😊😊
Thanks for this video I've been waiting 🙏🏼
One of my favorites, thank you.
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Never been this early to a HistoryMarche video. Haven't watched it yet, but I know it's going to be awesome!
I thought this week's episode would never arrive....this comment is a sacrifice to the algorithm
Respect to my Greek brothers, greetings from your northern neighbour 🇬🇷🇦🇱
Love your videos on the battles
I like the narrator he is the best please don't change him
Thank you guys this is a very pleasant surprise! Hope you come around to doing plataea someday too!
Been reading Pindar recently, couldn't come at a better time this one
YOU'RE THE BEST history marche! Keep up the good work 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
Awesome stuff, can never get enough. Books, videos, everything.
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Excellent documentary video with exceptional content and graphic. Eagerly waiting for your second video on Nader Shah.
Just wanna say thanks for the video bro
liked before watched and was not disappointed as always ; )
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Fun fact: the folks defending the Akropolis were there due to a prophecy by the oracle in Delhi that the wooden wall would save Athens. While this was mostly interpreted as the navy , some citizens thought of literally the wooden walls that at the time were around the Akropolis. According to legend (or maybe Greek Propaganda) , the Persians had some difficulty in even conquering that.
I haven't watched it yet but those salami must've tasted really good for them to fight over it
Great vid!
Thanks!
What a strange irony. Themistocles went a long way to beat the Persians and did. Only to end up defecting to them after the war. Wow. Great video.
Great analysis.
Will you do in depth alexander?
yes
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I love this Channel
Thanks for the video!
Hope you and your father are doing well
Unfortunately here in Salamina we haven't done anything to honor that historic event
Hey Boss, ya so history Marche just posted so Im gonna need to go home early
Boss: understandable have a great day
i beg you sometime do a video about athenian hegemony and rise and how they got back the lands from the persians. For example battle of eurymedon
And in gladiator, they said this battle happened between Persians and TROJANS...
Eva Green is op
Tremendous!
You need to collaborate with Epic History TV again!
Excellant!
When are you gonna finish you're hannibal series?
Make a video about the spartacus uprising rebels.👋🏻
You should really redo the battle of Las Navas de Tolosa (1212) , It involved
Order of Santiago
Order of Calatrava
Knights Templar
Knights Hospitaller
Knights of St. George
and French, German, Occitanian, Italian and Spanish Crusaders against a force 2x bigger then them (11K v 25K) It layed the foundation for the dismantle and destruction of the Almohads in Iberia. It was the turning point for the Reconquista basically, by 1285 the Reconquista was already lost.
At last some coverage of Greco.persian wars on YT.
Another wonderful historical coverage episode about naval clashed between Parthian fleets and Greeks 🇬🇷 where smaller number of Greeks Ancient warships defeated enormous numbers of Parthian Ancient warships ...thank you an excellent ( History Marche) channel for sharing this magnificent episode
Greeks lost to Parthian Persians
@@Techtalk2030 sure, in your mind...for the rest of the world they didnt
@@konkats-tg7pf lol they lost their whole selucid empire to the Parthian Persian dynasty
Is this the final of the Hannibal series.. 🤔😎
I like to think the Oracle was playing 4d chess to demonstrate the further need for an alliance
This comment will be a sacrifice to the algorithm! Awesome video as well!
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please finish the 2nd punic war series
5:17 haha is that a misspelling word in the "staits"?
New Video Ummayad Conquest Asia?
Who's here after beating the Salamis mission on AOE2?
Ahh.. the famous Battle of Salamis (Ναυμαχία τῆς Σαλαμῖνος)! The Battle of Heroes (ἠ μάχη τῶν ἤρώων), as I like to call it.
At the Battle of Salamis, in my own words, the sons of Greece became one soul (μία ψυχή), one body (ἔν σῶμα), one heart (μία καρδία), and one nation (ἔν ἔθνος). At Salamis, all the differences and feuds between the Greek poleis were set aside and forgotten. At Salamis, the Greek World (Ελληνικός Κόσμος) became one (μόνος). For the first time in history, the Ionic, democratic, and philosophical Athens (Άθῆναι) fought side by side with the Doric, oligarchic and militaristic Sparta (Σπάρτα), which was by far the greatest historical rival of the Athenians throughout the entire Hellenic history.
From my historical perspective, the Battle of Salamis was the battle that "proved and testified the honor and the courage of the sons of Greece" (ἠ μάχη ἤτις ἐδήλωσεν καὶ ἐμαρτὐρησεν τὴν τιμήν καὶ ἀνδρείαν τῶν υὶῶν τῆς Έλλάδος). With the exception of Thebes (Θῆβαι), which sided with the Persians, and Argos (Άργος), which became weak after the overwhelming Spartan victory at the Battle of Sepeia (494 BC), each major Hellenic city contributed with the war effort. For ALL Hellenes, whether Athenians, Spartans, Corinthians, Chalcidians, or Megarians, the defense of Greece became a matter of freedom or death (ελευθερία ἤ θάνατος). At Salamis, the Greeks were not only fighting for their respective cities (πόλεις), but also for their very autonomy as a nation.
According to Herodotus, Athens, which was the "queen and light of Attica" (Η βασίλισσα καὶ τὸ φῶς τῆς Αττικῆς), sent 180 triremes under Themistocles; Sparta, which was not a thalassocratic power, sent 16 ships; Megara, in turn, sent 20 ships; Corinth, the "mother of Syracuse" (ἠ μήτηρ τῶν Συρακουσῶν), sent 40 ships under Admiral Adeimantus; Aegina, the main island of the Saronic Gulf, sent 30 triremes; Chalcis, the "queen of Euboea" (ἠ βασίλισσα τῆς Εὐβοίας), sent 20 ships; and Epidaurus, the "treasure of Argolis" (ὀ θησαυρός τῆς Άργολίδος), sent 10 ships. Moreover, even the city of Croton (Χρότων), one of the most important Greek colonies of Magna Graecia, sent one ships to Salamis.
However, amazingly enough, the Battle of Salamis was not the only battle waged by the Greeks on that day. On the very same day in which the Athenians, Spartans, Corinthians, and Megarians were fighting the Persians at Salamis, the Greeks had to face another major threat against their independence: the Carthaginians
In 480 BC, probably on the same day in which the Battle of Salamis took place, Hamilcar, the Carthaginian King, sent thousands of soldiers towards Sicily (Σικελία), which was once the very heart of Magna Graecia (Μεγάλη Έλλάδα/Μεγάλη Έλλάς), as the Greek colonization in Sicily and Southern Italy became known. Just like Xerxes wanted to seize Greece and add it to his glorious Achaemenid Empire, the Carthaginians also coveted Sicily and its fertile lands.
However, just like Xerxes at Salamis, the Carthaginians were also overwhelmingly defeated by the Greeks at the decisive Battle of Himera (480 BC), in which King Hamilcar himself was killed! Due to the Dorian alliance between Syracuse and Akragas, which were by far the two most important Greek states of Sicily, the Greeks managed to wipe out the Carthaginian Army. Therefore, on that day, Greek Sicily was also saved alongside mainland Greece proper.
After the resounding Greek victory at Himera, Syracuse, which was then under the leadership of its Tyrant Gelon I (485-478 BC), became by far the most important city of Sicily! In my own words, Syracuse became the "queen of Sicily (ή Βασίλισσα τῆς Σικελίας) and the "treasure of Greater Greece" (ὀ θησαυρός τῆς Μεγάλης Έλλάδος). The Carthaginians, for their part, only returned to Sicily 70 years later! Moreover, the Carthaginian losses at Himera were so overwhelmingly great that the political system of the city itself was changed! From 480 BC onwards, Carthage ceased to be an absolute monarchy.
480 BC, therefore, was probably the "Annus Mirabilis" in Greek history. On the same day, the Greeks managed to repel two overwhelming foreign invasion against their lands on two fronts (Greece and Sicily), thus preserving their autonomy and way of life.
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The fact that the Greeks only lost 40 ships and Persians losing over 200…jeez.
all 500 Persian ones were at least heavily damaged, 200 sank even.
@@klausbrinck2137 damn, Greeks were no joke during those times.
As the narrator noted, the Greeks were more experienced and likely the better swimmers, which could have meant that they could be rescued and fight another day. The Persian fleet wasn't, which probably meant that more of their crew members drowned and couldn't be easily replaced.
Supposedly. People write their own stories
And the fact that the Persians STILL outnumbered the Greeks. Crazy times.
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Who gave Xerxes the title "King of Kings"? History marche?
Shahanshah is a Persian title means King of Kings it was used since the last times of Cyrus the Great himself
You can’t get your history knowledge exclusively from TH-cam dude. “King of kings” had a long use in Persia and was intended to distinguish the absolute ruler from lower kings or satraps, without taking away his subjects regional kingship titles.
A couple spelling errors in Footnote 1
Eyyyyyy
Can you imagine them fighting for some processed meat? Preposterous.
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Why exclude the very first action of the battle where the Corithians turned back and sailed away fleeing. The Greeks were terrified during this battle.
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Great video, very insightful. I hope you make more videos regarding the Persian Invasions of Greece. :)
The Greco-Persian wars stories are always free testosterone boosters
read cyrus anavasis by xenophon. 13k vs an empire
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Interesting that there is no archeological evidence for this battle, just Heredotus ( that paragon of historical accuracy 😂😂😂).
living in darkness is hard....maybe someday you can join the 21st century...good luck with your struggles
@konkats-tg7pf in fact there is no archeological evidence for the entire Persian invasion of Hellas, not even Hellenic trophies commemorating their victories! (???)
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Why mention the oft debated idea that Xerxes forces were all slaves? Most academics of the period agree that slavery in the Eastern empire of the Persians was very different from the Greeks considered slavery, and that's the Persians we're unlikely to have used "slaves" in a combat roll
Whoever has a woman 'warrior' as commander or military advisor is doomed, as history facts prove. Artemisia was first to flee in panic ramming its own ships in order to escape and that spiraled into total chaos. Xerxes was right in engaging a naval battle as Phoenicians were absolute master seamen and controlling the sea would've finished off the Greeks . One other note: hoplites could not maneuver the 15ft long sarissa in the confined space of a ship they had the short spears, shield and sword of hypaspits. Battle in a confined space like that relies purely on valor and determination.
1st: Artemisia was not a military advisor, she was a woman, and she was Greek, and that there is something that´s known about her, doesn´t mean, that she wasn´t at all important to the great king, but little is known about his true military advisors. She was Greek, and because at that time Herodot (also Greek) "invented" historiography, he was able to find something about her, but not about the others. Her Rolle isn´t depicted proportionally in this video.
2nd: Artemisia was one of the last ones to flee, and her contingent was (enslaved) Greek, equal to the free Greek ones, and the best among the Persians. 3nd: No matter how good the Phoenicians were, they were no Greeks, I checked that... 4rd: the hoplites used no sarissa yet, the sarissa was introduced 100 years later by Philip the 2nd. Their spears were half that long as a sarissa. But good try...
@@klausbrinck2137 1. I am talking about the video description of Artemisia. It seems to be a general forcefully 'pushed' narrative about all these female 'warrior commanders' which is totally fake given the social status of women at that time.
2. How was she the last to flee when she barged her way thru her own ships?
3. I didn't say the Phoenicians were better than the Greeks at naval warfare, I said they were elite master seamen which is a fact.
4. Hoplite spear was 12ft long and Macedonian sarissa was 16ft long. Either way a 12ft hoplite spear could not possibly be wielded on those conditions not even a 8ft long spear as you mentioned. Javelins for first impact then swords and shields.
@@ComboMuster At her position, the fleet was 5 rows deep, if she had to ram a single ship to freedom/escape (as witnessed), was because most of the ships weren´t there anymore.
@@klausbrinck2137greece got conquered by Rome and Ottomans for most of its history
@@Techtalk2030 Yeah, that´s why the Grecoroman empire survived the western half by nearly 250%, because the Greeks were "conquered" by the Romans. The Romans were just as the Greeks were saying, barbarians, and at 350AD, it was obvious, that those barbarians were unable to build something sustainable, so, they handed the empire´s keys back to the Greeks, as it should have been from the begin on. The Romans were retards. It just took them ages to realize, cause, you know, retard-things.
It's algorithm time again I see. Well, event he algorithm must get tired of the same sacrifice all the time. Let's sacrifice a pair of sheep this time around. Mutton instead of beef.
The battle the united the Greeks and saved Democracy and western civilization for millenia to come... The success of course, led to Themistocles turning out very famous/powerful several years later, so much, that he was considered a threat to Democracy, and was exiled for several years, which he took like a man, cause the rules were clear.
Second Punic war...
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Themistocles truly duped the Persians in this great battle. Funnel them into a narrow space and render their large numbers useless.
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This video fails to deliver. I see absolutely no salamis anywhere.
Persia always falls for the same mistake, overestimate themselves and get annihilated.
Persia was already a big empire, before it grew into a world empire... It´s just the Greeks that make all the difference..
@klausbrinck2137 what about the Arabs ? Or the hephilites? Or the soviet union?
@@ProvocateurOfEmotions Persians didn´t really exist after the Greeks took their lands with Alexander. And if they existed, they were a shadow of their former self... To that, the Persians of later times, weren´t the same as those, they were mainly Parthians (who lived on the Persian lands by now), who found liking in their enemies calling them "Persians". Part of the Roman senate first called the Parthians "Persians", for reasons of war-mongering/propaganda, but Persia was already and forever dead since Alexander´s time.
@@klausbrinck2137Parthians were descended of Artaxerxes who was an Achaemenid Persian and were essentially the same people speaking the same language, just different tribe. Also Sassanids were directly descended of the Sassanids Persians and defeated Rome and Greece.
@@ProvocateurOfEmotionsthey defeated the hephtalites in the end. Arabs was totally different. Less so overestimating and more so the empire was already dead basically due to civil war, plague and war with byzantines.
If you really want to go pro, teach your writers not to use dangling participles also much 😅
huh, are you trying to outdo the God Almighty EHTV?
Man, we Easterns were never good at the sea.
Battle of Al Qadissiyah?
Qarmatian invasion of meccah*