I watched this and I don’t care what anyone says if it’s helping people to rebuild their life then I take my hat off to you Peter. Congratulations for turning your life around and helping others
You thumbs up shaving peoples heads…why exactly? And did they give any stats on long term sobriety rates, after people leave? If you lock an addict in a closet…they would be “clean.” But that wouldn’t mean that “closet therapy” is a good rehab. You need to see what percent of residents stay clean after, and how does that compare to other programs. And without messing with the stats by saying anyone who relapses “didn’t do the program right” and so “doesn’t count.” And the using addicts as an unpaid workforce is a bit sketchy. Could it be done right? Maybe, where the money is held for people. But…it is ripe for exploitation.
Peter needs the Australians of the year award - Shalom House the government needs to take a good look at this and get more opened as they do a great job of rehabilitating people
Do they do a great job? Maybe I missed it, but did they say what percent of residents who are sober a year after? You could lock an addict in a closet or anywhere and make them read comic books all day, and they would be “clean” while there. But that doesn’t mean it’s a good treatment…you have to know if people stay clean a year after. And the head shaving helps…how? If it’s a “last chance” rehab and paid for by the resident labor (and not costing residents thousands per week)…good for him. But it has a bunch of red flags, and hard to say if he just switched from making money by providing drugs, and now makes money talking them away.
Most of the residents in the facility stay for 3 years and after are the homed and provided a job and amongst some of the friends from the facility for further support. An addict does not want to be an addict and can be helped with such support shalom house provides. They don't make money as all monies go into shalom house. Like the founder said he made this place as there is no support for addicts trying to get back into the right path so good on shalom for their positivity as like you so many negative people to overcome on their long journey to recovery
Hi guys, I used to be a bikey had a bad attitude thought I was better than anyone else , but one day God got a hold of me when I walked into a church. I had pins and needles all over my body. By the time I felt like I had an angel, wrapping their wings around me saying we love you, you are loved by the time got to top of the stairs I was crying like a baby and now I know that was the holy spirit. I’ve been a Christian now for 17 years and 2010. I did a diploma of Bible study and 17 years ago, I started sponsoring kids in Fiji for their education. I travel many times to Fiji to minister the gospel of Jesus Christ I go into all the jails in Fiji and share the word of God I help three guys go through the Salvation Army rehab in Redhill in Brisbane , but unfortunately in 2018. I had a major truck accident and lost my right leg above the knee but that doesn’t stop me from doing what gods call me to do and I just want to thank you guys for what you do? I know it’s a great calling on your life, just keep up the good work go after the one not the 99 May. God bless you all cliff from Logan City, Queensland, Australia 🇦🇺
well done, Shalom house. It doesn't matter your past because with God, all things are possible, and putting a new heart in a person is Gods specially.. those who have walked the depths understand the people in those depths the best. They all deserve a pat on the back and the support for funding more accommodation spaces.
tbh its critical for any addict to replace the previous routine of addiction with a normal day to day routine and the way its done at the toughest rehab actually seems like it would work alot more then your generic rehabs but i could be wrong but generally if your in the underworld your only going to get out from other people who've been in the underworld and have got out and made a life for themselves. The main reason for that one is they have the perspective of these addicts and can guide them through the process that worked for them it might not work for everyone but it certainty doesn't hurt to try. - Everyone Deserves Second Chances but you got to be willing to make the change.
Well, if people are really “willing to make the change”….most anything will work, even just doing it themselves. The tricky part is what happens with those who aren’t fully ready to change. And …what percent are still clean a year after? If you keep an addict away from drugs and occupied 24/7…they will be clean. But the big question is …do they stay that way?
As a person with a degree in psychology and a prior, severe, addiction i agree that until you have experienced addiction, as well as what it takes to recover, you dont really understand the experience. I used to think i did until a significant trauma triggered my addiction. I now know i only understood addiction from a academic position. not an emotional position. Without a doubt in my mind, those who have and are recovering from addiction are just as qualified to support those in addiction as are the medical field. That doesn't mean there isn't a place for professional support. But it does mean that those who have experienced addiction are just as skilled, if not more skilled, than any professional.
I totally agree that having an addiction gives a good perspective, but 2 issues: 1. If someone has an addiction, they know how it was for them….only. Experiencing condition x means you know your version of x, not what others feel. Symptoms, severity, reaction to medication for treatment, all vary hugely person to person, even for “regular” diseases. As an example, a heart attack may cause agonizing chest pain, or just some moderate left thumb pain, and for some…no pain at all, it is silent. So, hard to generalize even IF you experienced something. 2. How far do you take that premise that it’s best to have something to treat it? Does an oncologist need to have not only cancer, but the exact same type of cancer as the patient? And as the guy said, medicine is now evidence-based, not theory or experience-based. You look at a large group of people in various rehab programs, and see which had the highest percent clean a year after. Every addict kept away from drugs will be “clean” while there.
@ Its not just an added perspective. Its a significant advantage to have had an addiction and recovered when one is working with those in active addiction. You mention oncologists not needing to have had cancer…? But no mention of cancer being a personal journey that impacts everyone differently, yet, often with significant similarities. And you’re glaringly obvious omission is that addiction has an element of physical and psychological craving that most agree, especially those of us who KNOW, is the most difficult part to overcome. I have looked at many many recovery programs. Done many years of research and had countless conversations with countless people who have experienced addiction. But Im not espousing my personal opinion here. Im availing you of where the field is going and how those who have experienced addiction are, often, the only ones successful in helping others out of addiction.
Ive been through addiction & ive been clean 16yrs. I agree with his methods, you need to fill your days constructively so your not thinking about getting on. I wonder if thetes any counselling attached to this program cause that would really benefit the residents. Im niw a youth Worker, helping kids in state care but assisting people get sober is on my radar.
On face value, Shalom House is providing a service (or services) that the government aren't capable of providing or are unwilling to provide (insert your favourite beraucocracies here). From this clip we don't know the pros/cons per-say but what I'd contest is that they (Shalom House) provide an opportunity. This surely has to matter from all other alternatives (government or otherwise).
I believe he’s doing a great job. This is definitely an excellent business however it is also an excellent rehabilitation program. It’s ok to profit at the same time. This man has purpose and he is doing a remarkable job. God bless & may you continue to bring each person doing it tough accountable. They respect you as you have walked in their shoes. They understand you are making money however they are happy because that means this program is working. I pray you make it even bigger & Gods word spreads and that everyone seeking help praises your training on how to be a fellow Christian as well as a hard working kind person in every day life.
In the eighties the courts gave me a large community service order, for drugs , I had worked since 15 , The power within without help or guidance, left alone is not the answer.
@ShalomHouse I am a brokenhearted mother of adult children, hard work is hard work - they're doing something great I believe... 12 Steps is God Based in AA and NA am I wrong?... is it ever being referred to as a 'cult' ??
Holistic healing,housing +mahi..helps recovery in the ways of community living,giving self worth by constructive work in& around the treatment centre. Supporting each other.. I think this is great. In america,a person out in the country started a place similar to this,helping people get off heroin.because there not enough beds to patients..an it's an epidemic that badly needs adressing. Soldier on people.government dont appreciate this kind of "CULT' because they dont fund it,so dont have control over it!.
@mlisaj1111 lol. This is bout addiction recovery..which is extremely hard work ,why your making an irrelevant comment on shaven heads? Research on why some ethnics,religions shave their heads..
That’s the key question. If you locked an addict in a shed or anywhere, they would be “clean” while there, but the key questions are: - are they still clean a year after they are out? - what is the percent of all residents that stay clean over a year, and how does it compare to other treatments?
Yeah. I would be skeptical. The head shaving, the lack of stats on longterm sobriety rates and using people as an unpaid rental work force are definitely in red flag territory. This guy went from making money being involved peripherally in drug running, if I heard him right, and now makes money off addicts. You could lock an addict in a bathroom and make them watch old Seinfeld episodes all day, and they would be “clean” - but that doesn’t make it a good rehab. You need to know what percent of a large group of residents stay clean a year later. AND without fudging the stats, like saying anyone who fails to stay clean “left the program or didn’t do it right,” and, so they “don’t count.”
You can say NO to drugs! I lived in an area in a large city among the ‘in crowd’ where everyone smoked ‘grass’ or as is also called ‘weed’ as well as uppers to make these club goers high. In all the years I went to clubs I never once took drugs or smoked weed. I simply said ‘no thank you’! So if I can do so, so can many people!
Hah! I noticed that too. From the muscle shirts to having the residents shave their heads like him, this guy sure looks like he was leaning into the “badass tough guy gone straight” role.
Its great that the leaders are saved but I don't think they are born again. I don't recognise Holy Spirit being present in Des. Hope you find Him truely Des.
@BrothersInArms1 You don't need anyone but yourself .. Brainwashed to believe some invisible diety is going to save you .. Believe in yourself.. save yourself and stop relying on something or someone else to save you ..
Commands respect? He talks about not acting tough, then goes and does exactly that. Get tf over yourself mate, change is intellectual as well. Fkn clown show forcing religion on people as well.
Guess you life is perfect and no doubt privileged ever woken up without a bed and spent your day chasing your chosen poison, I somewhat doubt that Terminus.
I really think hes not born again like Jesus said to be. Im sure he is converted and saved but he is not moving in the Loving power of Jesus by the Holy Spirit inside.
@@TerminusEst1982 relatable to all the people still in the gangster street life but, a recovering addict fights every day to stay alive, some will never understand
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I watched this and I don’t care what anyone says if it’s helping people to rebuild their life then I take my hat off to you Peter. Congratulations for turning your life around and helping others
As a person in recovery and an AOD counselor I give this place a huge thumbs up.
You thumbs up shaving peoples heads…why exactly?
And did they give any stats on long term sobriety rates, after people leave? If you lock an addict in a closet…they would be “clean.” But that wouldn’t mean that “closet therapy” is a good rehab.
You need to see what percent of residents stay clean after, and how does that compare to other programs. And without messing with the stats by saying anyone who relapses “didn’t do the program right” and so “doesn’t count.”
And the using addicts as an unpaid workforce is a bit sketchy. Could it be done right? Maybe, where the money is held for people. But…it is ripe for exploitation.
@@mlisaj1111 have you ever been an addict and stayed sober to this very day?
Peter needs the Australians of the year award - Shalom House the government needs to take a good look at this and get more opened as they do a great job of rehabilitating people
Do they do a great job? Maybe I missed it, but did they say what percent of residents who are sober a year after?
You could lock an addict in a closet or anywhere and make them read comic books all day, and they would be “clean” while there. But that doesn’t mean it’s a good treatment…you have to know if people stay clean a year after.
And the head shaving helps…how?
If it’s a “last chance” rehab and paid for by the resident labor (and not costing residents thousands per week)…good for him.
But it has a bunch of red flags, and hard to say if he just switched from making money by providing drugs, and now makes money talking them away.
Most of the residents in the facility stay for 3 years and after are the homed and provided a job and amongst some of the friends from the facility for further support. An addict does not want to be an addict and can be helped with such support shalom house provides. They don't make money as all monies go into shalom house. Like the founder said he made this place as there is no support for addicts trying to get back into the right path so good on shalom for their positivity as like you so many negative people to overcome on their long journey to recovery
Hi guys, I used to be a bikey had a bad attitude thought I was better than anyone else , but one day God got a hold of me when I walked into a church. I had pins and needles all over my body. By the time I felt like I had an angel, wrapping their wings around me saying we love you, you are loved by the time got to top of the stairs I was crying like a baby and now I know that was the holy spirit. I’ve been a Christian now for 17 years and 2010. I did a diploma of Bible study and 17 years ago, I started sponsoring kids in Fiji for their education. I travel many times to Fiji to minister the gospel of Jesus Christ I go into all the jails in Fiji and share the word of God I help three guys go through the Salvation Army rehab in Redhill in Brisbane , but unfortunately in 2018. I had a major truck accident and lost my right leg above the knee but that doesn’t stop me from doing what gods call me to do and I just want to thank you guys for what you do? I know it’s a great calling on your life, just keep up the good work go after the one not the 99 May. God bless you all cliff from Logan City, Queensland, Australia 🇦🇺
Love and blessings to Peter and everyone involved with Shalom House Perth 🙌💞🙌
Please keep doing what you are doing Brother. Lived/living experience makes the difference for our community - I support you 100%.
Wow I’m so impressed.
This is so needed
Thank you 🙏
well done, Shalom house. It doesn't matter your past because with God, all things are possible, and putting a new heart in a person is Gods specially.. those who have walked the depths understand the people in those depths the best.
They all deserve a pat on the back and the support for funding more accommodation spaces.
tbh its critical for any addict to replace the previous routine of addiction with a normal day to day routine and the way its done at the toughest rehab actually seems like it would work alot more then your generic rehabs but i could be wrong but generally if your in the underworld your only going to get out from other people who've been in the underworld and have got out and made a life for themselves. The main reason for that one is they have the perspective of these addicts and can guide them through the process that worked for them it might not work for everyone but it certainty doesn't hurt to try. - Everyone Deserves Second Chances but you got to be willing to make the change.
Well, if people are really “willing to make the change”….most anything will work, even just doing it themselves.
The tricky part is what happens with those who aren’t fully ready to change. And …what percent are still clean a year after?
If you keep an addict away from drugs and occupied 24/7…they will be clean. But the big question is …do they stay that way?
As a person with a degree in psychology and a prior, severe, addiction i agree that until you have experienced addiction, as well as what it takes to recover, you dont really understand the experience. I used to think i did until a significant trauma triggered my addiction. I now know i only understood addiction from a academic position. not an emotional position. Without a doubt in my mind, those who have and are recovering from addiction are just as qualified to support those in addiction as are the medical field.
That doesn't mean there isn't a place for professional support. But it does mean that those who have experienced addiction are just as skilled, if not more skilled, than any professional.
I totally agree that having an addiction gives a good perspective, but 2 issues:
1. If someone has an addiction, they know how it was for them….only. Experiencing condition x means you know your version of x, not what others feel. Symptoms, severity, reaction to medication for treatment, all vary hugely person to person, even for “regular” diseases.
As an example, a heart attack may cause agonizing chest pain, or just some moderate left thumb pain, and for some…no pain at all, it is silent.
So, hard to generalize even IF you experienced something.
2. How far do you take that premise that it’s best to have something to treat it? Does an oncologist need to have not only cancer, but the exact same type of cancer as the patient?
And as the guy said, medicine is now evidence-based, not theory or experience-based.
You look at a large group of people in various rehab programs, and see which had the highest percent clean a year after. Every addict kept away from drugs will be “clean” while there.
@
Its not just an added perspective. Its a significant advantage to have had an addiction and recovered when one is working with those in active addiction.
You mention oncologists not needing to have had cancer…?
But no mention of cancer being a personal journey that impacts everyone differently, yet, often with significant similarities.
And you’re glaringly obvious omission is that addiction has an element of physical and psychological craving that most agree, especially those of us who KNOW, is the most difficult part to overcome.
I have looked at many many recovery programs. Done many years of research and had countless conversations with countless people who have experienced addiction.
But Im not espousing my personal opinion here. Im availing you of where the field is going and how those who have experienced addiction are, often, the only ones successful in helping others out of addiction.
Ive been through addiction & ive been clean 16yrs. I agree with his methods, you need to fill your days constructively so your not thinking about getting on. I wonder if thetes any counselling attached to this program cause that would really benefit the residents. Im niw a youth Worker, helping kids in state care but assisting people get sober is on my radar.
@@KatB79 you get weekly mentoring
On face value, Shalom House is providing a service (or services) that the government aren't capable of providing or are unwilling to provide (insert your favourite beraucocracies here). From this clip we don't know the pros/cons per-say but what I'd contest is that they (Shalom House) provide an opportunity. This surely has to matter from all other alternatives (government or otherwise).
So grateful for your efforts & participants for keeping on trying.
I think Peter is doing a fantastic job. The government won't put in the effort like this to fix these people so good on you Peter for doing so.
I believe he’s doing a great job. This is definitely an excellent business however it is also an excellent rehabilitation program. It’s ok to profit at the same time. This man has purpose and he is doing a remarkable job. God bless & may you continue to bring each person doing it tough accountable. They respect you as you have walked in their shoes. They understand you are making money however they are happy because that means this program is working. I pray you make it even bigger & Gods word spreads and that everyone seeking help praises your training on how to be a fellow Christian as well as a hard working kind person in every day life.
They need these kind of facilities for aboriginal communities. Awesome job
In the eighties the courts gave me a large community service order, for drugs , I had worked since 15 , The power within without help or guidance, left alone is not the answer.
@ShalomHouse I am a brokenhearted mother of adult children, hard work is hard work - they're doing something great I believe... 12 Steps is God Based in AA and NA am I wrong?... is it ever being referred to as a 'cult' ??
Holistic healing,housing +mahi..helps recovery in the ways of community living,giving self worth by constructive work in& around the treatment centre. Supporting each other.. I think this is great. In america,a person out in the country started a place similar to this,helping people get off heroin.because there not enough beds to patients..an it's an epidemic that badly needs adressing. Soldier on people.government dont appreciate this kind of "CULT' because they dont fund it,so dont have control over it!.
How is shaving peoples heads “supporting” people, or helping?
That part seems a bit more like a power play by someone who is mad he went bald.
@mlisaj1111 lol. This is bout addiction recovery..which is extremely hard work ,why your making an irrelevant comment on shaven heads? Research on why some ethnics,religions shave their heads..
What’s the relapse rate?
It’s gotta be over or around 80%
People relapse because they choose to relapse, not because of a rehab 😅
Habits are hard to break as humans are not designed for drugs. Try, try again dear people.
That’s the key question. If you locked an addict in a shed or anywhere, they would be “clean” while there, but the key questions are:
- are they still clean a year after they are out?
- what is the percent of all residents that stay clean over a year, and how does it compare to other treatments?
I love the idea, but I don't believe the con for second. It's called the Holy Trinity Con.
Yeah. I would be skeptical. The head shaving, the lack of stats on longterm sobriety rates and using people as an unpaid rental work force are definitely in red flag territory.
This guy went from making money being involved peripherally in drug running, if I heard him right, and now makes money off addicts.
You could lock an addict in a bathroom and make them watch old Seinfeld episodes all day, and they would be “clean” - but that doesn’t make it a good rehab.
You need to know what percent of a large group of residents stay clean a year later. AND without fudging the stats, like saying anyone who fails to stay clean “left the program or didn’t do it right,” and, so they “don’t count.”
You can say NO to drugs! I lived in an area in a large city among the ‘in crowd’ where everyone smoked ‘grass’ or as is also called ‘weed’ as well as uppers to make these club goers high. In all the years I went to clubs I never once took drugs or smoked weed. I simply said ‘no thank you’! So if I can do so, so can many people!
No pandering to the camera and no tough guy poses...and des and his mate Brett go ahead and do exactly that
Hah! I noticed that too. From the muscle shirts to having the residents shave their heads like him, this guy sure looks like he was leaning into the “badass tough guy gone straight” role.
Australia's biggest rehab service?
The Lord Jesus loves you all God bless you 😇
Its great that the leaders are saved but I don't think they are born again. I don't recognise Holy Spirit being present in Des. Hope you find Him truely Des.
❤
Friday night Watching in bed high as a kite on medicinal indica strain.😇
Crikey
How are all these dudes allowed to work in the grounds of a primary school???
You don't need God or Religion to know what's right from wrong...
Facts 🙌
Some people do maybe your lucky
You also don’t need to become a christian to complete the program. Just saying 😊
You do need God if you want eternal life. You do need God if you want real peace.
@BrothersInArms1 You don't need anyone but yourself ..
Brainwashed to believe some invisible diety is going to save you ..
Believe in yourself.. save yourself and stop relying on something or someone else to save you ..
Commands respect? He talks about not acting tough, then goes and does exactly that. Get tf over yourself mate, change is intellectual as well. Fkn clown show forcing religion on people as well.
Interesting
Guess you life is perfect and no doubt privileged ever woken up without a bed and spent your day chasing your chosen poison, I somewhat doubt that Terminus.
I really think hes not born again like Jesus said to be. Im sure he is converted and saved but he is not moving in the Loving power of Jesus by the Holy Spirit inside.
I hope he finds the Trinity available to him for sure. I pray. He's using his old toughness not God's power to discipline.
@@TerminusEst1982 relatable to all the people still in the gangster street life but, a recovering addict fights every day to stay alive, some will never understand