Fendt vs Deere - The little things!
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 30 ส.ค. 2022
- So now that we have a few hours on the X9, Mike will try remember some of the little differences and options from the Fendt Ideal 9s and compare them with the X9 John Deere. Keep in mind these will grow as Mike gets more comfortable in the X9.
We then will do a mechanical difference between the two of them as well - at some point.
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Mike, to make the unloading auger stop instantly just double click the button. One click, it will do it spiel to empty the auger (better way to do it as it brings less wear and tear), but double click will make it stop immediately.
You’re right Mike. You spend that much money 💵 your level of expectations absolutely should be critical. Keep up the great work!
I agree with Mike. I just hired a small roof to be replaced. I went to look at the progress and the roofer was putting new drip edge over a rotten facia board and there was even a 2’ section missing. He said that wasn’t in the bid. I have had lots of work done and was flabbergasted. I had a farm house roof done by an Amish crew and I was never there to see them work, but when I did see it was perfect, no short cuts. I then hired them to do windows, insulation and siding the next summer. Again great results. I would think they sleep better at night based on how they do a job.
Mike, I am thankful you are critical re: machinery. Keep pushing the manufacturers.
Thankyou good sir! 🙂
Agreed
You are one of very few people in this world who has actually used all of this new/big equipment of all shapes, colors, and sizes; therefore you are one of few who can speak on the differences based on experience and not just what the specs say. Lots of people have run one or the other but the comparison is where you learn what's good or bad. If I was a manufacturer I would definitely be watching all of your videos. Good luck with the remainder of harvest, hopefully you get a steady drizzle for a month or two the day after you finish!
I thoroughly enjoy these "good and bad" videos. Being non-biased makes it very educational compared to videos from people who are partial to a certain brand. Even though my father was a die-hard General Motors man, he always said the best built vehicle would be a combination of parts and accessories of all manufacturers
Agreed in my mind the best pickup would be if ford contributed the body/interior and suspension, dodge gave a Cummins engine and chevy gave their contract with Allison, sadly big auto manufacturers hate eachother so much the only way to get this done is do it yourself 😂
I'm amazed at the capabilities of the modern combines.
These are definitely not a JD 55 with a 16 foot header and no cab. No way could it travel up to 10 mph harvesting crop.
Enjoy your new toy and remember what your grandparents endured to be a farmer.
It is amazing all the old combines we started in with basically no lighting and we all still complain about lights on these new machines. Also all I can think of is talladaga nights frenchie drinking an expreso going down the back stretch when he is talking about a coffee maker in the combine.
I love how you give the good and the bad. Its great you have the experience of multiple platforms. Great review as always.
Great video. Appreciate the comparisons. Very informative. I've been running the 680s and 780s the last few years. Thankyou.
The AGCO cabs have USB ports. And 5 cup holders if you fold the back of the passenger seat down. Those cup holders are my personal favorite.
Thank You for your honesty between the machines. 👍
Okay deere if ur watching key takeaways from this is equipment needs fridge with lights oven with lights coffee maker with lights, charging pad with a light obviously 120 v outlet but don’t worry about usb ports cause Mike don’t remember if the fendts even had them so they couldn’t of been to important and a hydraulically folding ladder
I feel with the cost of machinery and the amount of time you spend in the seat with the size of your farms , I appreciate your comments on the pros and cons !!
Mike you still can hardwire a 110v converter in the cab. Just run it off the starter with a heavy gauge wire to the cab with a converter and you can plug anything you want in it. Heck id have a microwave, a coffeemaker and small oven in there lol.
Mike, the lowest "square cup holder" is for juice boxes for when you have the kids riding with you.
Right! 😆
Juice box water bottle kinda thingy holder
Mike , I enjoy your critique’s, I learn so much from them, keep up the great work 👍🏻
The way you said “they’re junk” about the beacons
😝
😆 I have never been known to sugar coat things 🤦🏻♂️🤷♂️
Thanks for the honest reviews 👍
would be really interesting to see a claas on demo and see how it compares to the ideal and the x9.
Same here. I asked Mike if he looked into Claas harvesters at all when he took delivery of his X9's but sadly it seems like he does not have much time for replies in comments. Claas are becoming more and more popular in North America, I even saw one harvesting nearby me recently. Was so tempted to pull off the highway and take pictures but I figured I would prob look like a creep lol.
@@itz_lexiii_ good to hear they ate growing more popular in North America, here in the UK they are the most common by far over half all combines in the uk are Claas, and for good reason, they are by far the best combines 👍
@@joel8340. Yeah they used to do 50/50 partnership with CAT for construction of the harvesters when they first tested North American soil but now they are doing everything under the "Claas of America" company afaik. They have the largest grain bins, widest headers, and most fuel efficient harvesters so in today's fuel economy its an unwise decision not to get one IMO.
@@itz_lexiii_ iam pretty sure his neighbors run a big fleet of the latest claas combines on there farms..
I would have loved to have seen a fleet off lime green and white tracked combines harvesting with Mike giving his open , honest no holds opinions on the equipment
Yup I'd like to see the claas. On his farm in good crops. I think he would be very happy.
Mike, Deere only has to make that combine good enough for you to spend the money, not perfect enough that you're still thrilled after you spent the money
Big iron Mike. Most words per video of all the farmtubers 😊 Thanks for letting us on the combine
Does Mike have an episode where he talks about the farm structure, all the different siblings and farms and how it all works? I'm always intrigued when he's talking about everybody owning their own combines and running them together and stuff. I'm curious how it all works.
The moment you see LED lights on a ladder wouldn’t that send big warnings to say no. Plenty of lights to get to the bearings and massive plug ups. That’s Ideal!
Love the video's, I think it would be really cool to have a long piece of raw video and sound of you running the combine so we can hear you and your crew talking to each other and see a little more of how you all operate together.
The good thing about Mike is he is always going to have content. After John Deere comes and repo’s these combines he can do it again with a Case or a Claas.
😆 I like your optimism Nick, the glass is always half full around this camp too! Stay awesome! 🤙🙂
Actually Mike sounds as though he's pretty happy with the Deere, but like all manufactures, there will be things a customer doesn't like. Over this series of videos the one thing he's said that would make up my mind was the down time of the previous equipment. It will be interesting to see if these new Green equipment will stay up and running... I assumed these are all on lease with so many hours being run and road miles for an operation this large. My experience is with Heavy Equipment and Trucks, not farm only equipment, so I could be wrong. Ya gotta like a guy and take his opinion as pretty much honest that will go to the trouble of taking his shoes off to keep the carpet and floor clean.
He has already said the Deere's have been night and day different when it comes to uptime. At the end of the day, these are small items which will be addressed by Deere (no doubt), but the Ideals were just horrible for uptime.
@@jamesbainton I'm not defending the Ideals because they were very bad. But hopefully AGCO learned a lot from Mike's experiences and made a lot of improvements. Might not have had enough real world testing before they released them to the public as well
Exactly what I said mate. Had every colour in my last 26 years harvesting, Deere Rules the Roost means they are number one. Understand there champ.
@@stakman78 hahaaa keep drinking the green drink. Ive ran every brand also and id take New Holland or even Gleaner over everything else.
Great video Mike, would like to hear more about both combines, think you still miss the AGCO machine 😉
Hey Mike. Nice seeing the X9 and your not sitting at the edge of the field. :) Anyway, check with your dealer. I thought there were ladder options. There is a different one for the tracks. There could be a better option.
I'm watching this while putting rubber o-rings on those beacons. I work at the factory in West Michigan that makes most of the lights for the x9 and all of the new 7000 and 8000 tractors. I thought you were gonna love the beacons 😂 when testing them here, they will totally blind you if you don't have a light shield
I agree with you Mike about complaining. More that I watch you and some other farmers-youtubers that buy Johndeeer more I think that the last series of there products are 70-80% finished products. Sry for my bad english. Thank you for your content.
Great comparison n agree 100% especially spending big money but trying been efficient n entry ladder is no better then old access ladder to engine bay like S680 LOL. At least X9 improve on access to engine bay especially new ladder. I would see concave change comparison n grease up too.
Enjoyed this very much. Great Video
If I remember correctly, on the 9880 STS. All rotor changes were performed from the cab. That was about 17 - 18 years ago! Before the STS we had a CTS. The CTS insisted on setting itself on fire in Beans (as did the other CTS that JD sent to help catch up) and the STS simply couldn’t cope with English conditions and destroyed itself. We had no choice but to go to a Lexion!
Try double clicking the unload button. Should just shut it off without doing the clean out
If you want fresh coffee, Makita make a 18v pod coffee maker and kettle
Ever piece of machinery I've ever drove that has a motor has a place to warm up my meals.
I appreciate your critique of the X-9. First real honest summary of one I have heard. Really though, the bottom line is productivity. Can it stay combining reliably in the crop, doing a great job of separating, longer than the Ideal? Can you get more done in a hard day? This needs to be addressed.
Well, he hasn’t been crawling around fixing and unplugging constantly. There’s that….
I belive he already said that in previous video. However I think that it's still way too early to talk about reliability. Let's wait for the end of harvest.
The option for the 110 outlet is out there. In our 8RX tractor there is a 110 outlet on the corner post. I didn’t spend much time when we had the X9 to know if there was one in there but there may be one that you have found yet.
Hello Mike great videos thanks for sharing with us all
I remember running grain 9390/Brent 974 grain cart for 2388's with 36ft straight cut headers. Had to tuck the header in between the tractor tires and cart tire while unloading on the go.
On the s690s we ran into an issue with aftermarket tank extensions. We had several absolutely destroy the final drives on the left side(auger side). It added too much weight. We as a dealer sent out a warning to anyone of our customers and even helped take some off machines.
Awesome video, Mike.
That ladder seems like a lawsuit just waiting to happen!!!!
Awesome content 👏
The amount of money you must invest in machinery must be frightening, but you have to have the machines to cover the crops you plant and harvest, the machinery manufactures should have people like you ,involved in their research and development teams for some imput........another great video.
The manufacturers need more input from the farmers/operators on what’s needed and where it should be installed. There’s no substitute for hands on experience for design, functionality, and need.
Must be a Generation thing 😁 I never listen to music in the combine or tractor, I like to feel and hear what the machine is doing. I Never rely on the Warning System manufactures incorporate and can tell before something goes sideways, have a problem developing, or how the crop is running.
How? The cabs are so quiet and isolated anymore
My father never listened to the radio, just the sound of the engine and the crop going thru. One day he felt a small vibration. Next day after pre trip grease it took him 1 hour to find a bad pulley on the feeder house on a 1680.
You bet , Deere missed the boat on the ladder. That would be really annoying to work with!. Mike , thank you for producing your videos. I farm in Manitoba and it is interesting that , no matter what your farm size is , we seem to all think a like! I can really associate with your problems and successes on the farm.
Never understood why they went away from the stair steps like on the 8820s.
@@lynwessel2471 uh hello, how are you gonna open the gull wing door?
@@bigcheese370 You can buy after market stairs for them. They swing over out of the way to open the side panel, using the swivel thats already there.
Kinda surprised that there isn't a better fire suppression system on board as every second counts.
Yip yet again Mike makes perfect sense in this criticisms of JD 👏🏻👏🏻 the rear steps ladder/door should also be on a button press hydraulic maybe!!! You’d wonder did JD consult with every day users at all 🤔🤔 didn’t ask Mike what he thought was best anyways 😂😂
Love if you could do a crop change over video Deere versus Ideal combine and accelerator, rotor, cleaning system, shredder, spreader design/performance review once you get more time on the on the x9.
I grew up in a JD 6620 and 7720. Lightyears apart from today’s equipment. Glad I found this channel though, I am east coast US so Mike’s open plains and no trees is so foreign to me.
Thanks for the video Mike, interesting!
Great entertainment thanks
"shot the boat"? Hmmm, must be a Mike special, 😂. I've certainly heard and understand the phrase "missed the boat", but shot, that's a great big no on that one. Thanks anyway, keep pumping the vids Mr. Mitchel!
John Deere should be embarrassed by that ladder and those strobe lights. The strobe lights are a safety item on the highway and should grab your attention, even in the daylight!
The ladder is a safety issue as well because if you have a fire and the ladder is in the up position you would have trouble getting out.
Except for ones like Gleaner. Its made to be over powered in an emergency, its why the electric ones seem "cheap".
Somebody on thecombineforum solved the chopper plugging issue on the fendt
So did the Mitchell’s 😎
How
Just read it. Interesting that he is pleased with an ex Mike Ideal.
Just redesign and rebuild the chopper lol.
That read reminds me of why I don't read that site anymore. "Why would they test a combine in that poor of crop?" "What do you expect, that machine wasn't designed for that poor of a crop". Not everyone has 150 bushel crops.
@@tommyzoo traded them in
The S series has a cup holder behind the buddy seat. I use it more than the other cup holder.
May Wes should make a replacement bottom step assembly to replace the metal removable bottom step on the X9
I'm pretty sure the inner liner on the trash can is removable.
I agree on the sound systems being "volumed" down. Probably trying to avoid lawsuits. On some of the convenience items, we're probably many thousands of dollars ahead by adding them ourselves.
BMW designed that cab, so blame or commend them.
Haven’t tried it in the x9, but with most sound systems. It will go louder with a usb connection than a Bluetooth. Due to the limitations of wireless signal.
You should do a updated farm tour
I agree with the radio being too quiet. New tractor is the same
Great video Mike. Mike have you heard if John Deere will be putting the same cab features and combine body styling on the S series soon? Would imagine the S series would be getting an update soon.
I know in the 780 you can flip the bottom of the buddy seat up and reach into the top of the fridge. Haven't looked at the x9 yet. Might be easier to grab that drink or buns lol.
If you double click the unload button, it should stop the auger instantly
thanks mike
That song choice is TOP NOTCH!!!! Love it
That is for *UMBREALLA*! :D
Mike, as far as unload clean out, if you need to stop the auger quickly in an emergency stop situation you can double tap the unload button while it’s unloading and that will stop the auger without clean out, now if you do that on a regular basis I guarantee you will shear pins, but if it’s mostly cleaned out and your cart operator takes off just double tab your unload button and your good to go👍
Good to know! Thanks 🙂
@@mikemitchell2554 the second thing you do is skid the cart driver’s butt out of there. First rule of thumb is everything is the cart driver’s fault. They teach that on day one of cart driving school.
Love the honesty. 🍼🚜🇨🇦
Churmike . Long time viewer from. Down here I aoteoroa ( new zealand)..
following u for the last 3 years.. the size and Logistics of your operation completely blows my mind .
I hate to ask you . But in a rough kind of estimate what is one off those combines and harvesting heads worth in your fallas dollars..
Like wise with with those big air seeders ya use
All your content is so informative and the way u present and explain how , why , the way you run your xxl operation up there in Canada is amazing
Bless up and Kia Ora from new zealand
I think auger side should be mirrored tint, just to have visibility from the cart
I agree Mike get all the bang for the buck. The new car stereos suck. Problem is you can't switch them out or add an amp like years ago.
Thanks for sharing Mike! Maybe I need to get my John Deere dealer friend to watch this 😂
The 110 power they would likely add would be useless for any kinda cooking needs. All automotive ones are 400watt max. Good for charging a laptop or cordless tool or that’s about it.
Double tap your auger switch and it shuts off without the timer.
Mike you are 100% right... the new John deere sound system sucks... let me explain... the old style John deere sound system was good... up until 2020 when the new style came out (7r 8r 8rx 8rt) It could just be the stereo but I've noticed that I'm usually running the stereo around 20-25 just to hear it well... so your not going deaf lol
As am I! And good to know 😆🤷♂️
You know Mike, I think the hopper size is because of weight. Ideal has a lighter combine which in turn is built worse. It doesn't matter which brand you have, lots and lots of farmers have issues with cracking rims on duals and blowouts on singles so it would only cause problems to have a bigger hopper. Its probably not an issue on flat fields but on hillier ones it is and we've had this issues with CHN and John Deere
Then explain Claas with 500?
@@J-1410 they have lots of problems with them as well, which is why they sell most of them with tracks. You wont see many farmers with hilly land buy one without tracks. There's a huge amount of friction when they turn with a full hopper. The X91100 has a 460 bushel tank too but they also don't sell many without tracks unless to big farms with flat land. I know this because I farm on a huge farm and it's an issue every year and the rims aren't easy to get when it gets later into harvest
@@googleuser4009 you do realize a full new, big, grain cart weighs more, and is tracked?(2000 bushel models)
Class has always had issues with its tracks.
Also CNH offers bigger options too.
@@J-1410 well this is just in our area here in south Saskatchewan, I can't speak for other. Tracks can handle a lot more weight
@@googleuser4009 I'm right across the border in ND. Tracks here are more of a gimmick than actually useful. Its dry and you will have compaction either way, might as well have a halfways decent ride with tires.
Case 9250 thats all you need!!
Mike, your right! For that price, the ladder should be electric, Mother Deere did some cost cutting, and it shows. Do you regret your decision to go with John Deere?
Power ladder like a gleaner
@@richardradawetz8788 Yes sir! Or any other brand! Like Mike said, even the spreader has it!
How about a Gleaner? Lighter, Simpler, large capacity grain tank, and quick unload. Bottom tank unload auger, may be an issue on auger length. You need dealer support of course. Gleaner deserves consideration.
If he had Fendt, he has Gleaner.
Nice critical vid and about that ladder: Not everybody has your age anymore, that ladder is pretty darn steep going down.
You should get the old massey out and hire someone to run it with the other combines
Grandpa always said they were broke down when the combine fridge wasn’t working
i like some of your ideas for the X9
you should be there with the engineer when they design it
Take your frustration out on the poor ladder mike 😬😃😃🏴
I agreed the ladder isn’t a great design, lights for step would be nice, and i like the original rotating becon lights! Those ones look so hard to see if they are on
Bel video. Bravo. Bei mezzi.
👍👍👋👋🚜💪🇮🇹
You have screen sharing among combines for gps lines. Could you not have a system that would screen share with the grain carts showing how full each combine is and where they are and direction of travel. It should be possible, I think!
You're gonna need a dedicated 1500w spare AC generator on the system to put any kind of coffee pot in that thing. It SHOULD be an option, imagine having the ability to run a grinder or a plug-in leaf blower directly from the machine!
Putting a compressed air port anyplace or running the lines past any place where fires may occur would be unbelievably idiotic. _Dumber than putting a plastic thousand liter fuel tank over the rear bearings_
Just a factory installed standard 2500 watt inverter for $300 bucks would be all that's needed. You aren't going to running full load constantly.
I drive truck and that's what we generally all have, and I run the fridge and microwave and various kitchen appliances and cookers and tools and everything else off it.
And putting an air line near where a fire could occur means that you have easier access to the air to keep the area blown clean, thus reducing the risk of fire.
And I would say that the chances of a fire starting and melting through the air line, and the air leak making the fire worse, is a pretty low probability, and not something I would worry about!
LOL what you gonna do hurdle that ladder if that thing catches on fire. The price of those things it should come with a bidet somewhere, and a couch
Gleaner has a "power ladder" (said in Brian Brown voice)
Since 1973(or whenever the original L came out)
You NEED to do a demo on a red machine. I love your comparisons on the machines. How's the family?
He’s said before the closest dealer is like 160 miles and in the US.
@@crandonborth there's a Case IH dealer (Redhead equipment) in Swift Current (likely the same place he bought the Fendts and the JDs). It's about 100 miles away. Perhaps he doesn't like the dealership for some reason though.
@@markzurowski3627 Oh I don’t know I’m from the US we have Case, Deere, New Holland and Fendt all within 10 miles from my house. Heck the Case and Deere are side by side kinda funny really.
@@crandonborth yes, all those dealerships are within about 3 miles of each other in Swift Current as well. It is the nearest large town to Mike's farm. The farm is in quite a remote location so nothing is very close to them. I've been in that area of the province a few times and it's pretty amazing how remote and quiet it is.
Most can only dream!
If only the Fendt had a rear beater. So much trouble could have been avoided.
Yes if they had of had a rear beater they could of given John Deere a spanking.
I totally understand when you say it’s a 800.000 $ combine at this price it should has better sound system and installing a 110 volts inverter , or at least offer them in option in reasonable price , JD probably think it’s still 70 years old pappy who still farm and drive combine and listen to AM radio .
I remember when I was 8 in 1976 the first time I driven a combine it was a BIZON I don’t remember the model the header was about 10-12 feets wide and the hoper is very small , I was going up to the end of the field and coming back and had to empty it because I wasn’t going to end of it , and I had to put all my weight on the clutch pedal ….
The LED lights are either warm or cool. Warm is like old type globes and are dull with a small tinge of yellowish hue wherreas the cool white are bright white light.
Great video as always keep up the great work 🍺🍺🍺