The whole discourse around it made me realize how much I was hoping for a brilliant high-concept, slow-burn, metaphoric sci-fi film, where you immediately go back to watch it a second time to wrap your head around what you had just seen. Alas, with everyone saying how insane it is and Mark Kermode calling it the cinemtic equivalent of toothache I think I have to see this regardless. Great first vid!
That description sounds exactly like something I would love! For some reason the first film that comes to mind with that description is Arrival (2016). It was certainly one of my favourite films of that year! I've heard Mark Kemode was particularly scathing. I haven't seen his review yet as I was deliberately avoiding them all!
I was perhaps being slightly hyperbolic. But there was a scene towards the end of the film that you can glimpse in the trailer where you see the 2 leads from behind in Megalopolis and their feet are literally sliding along the ground! That's what made me unironically think of Niel Breen. 😂
I watched it last night. I don't understand the hate for it. The film is BETTER than reviewers say it is and it's not even close. Yes the movie is insane, but it's never boring, it's funny, it's interesting and it's a great looking picture. REally don't get the hate.
I agree it's never boring! And there are some well composed shots and interesting themes and ideas. I guess for me, I need those things to come together coherently. I admire the ambition of the project, but it just didn't work for me. I'm glad you enjoyed the film!
even if you like it, i think it's pretty easy to understand why people don't. i don't consider myself a film snob by any means but as someone who enjoys experimental and sometimes impenetrable movies, this one just felt way too self-indulgent and fascinated with itself for me to get past. it felt like an even more pretentious lars von trier movie to me
The movie is completely coherent within its own world. Its a fable, therefore works with archetypes, plays with the past and the future to mirror the present, explores media exploitation, power hunger, love, hope and destruction all while following a hero’s journey in 3 acts. Even goes from death to rebirth to birth. It talks about the fall of the current empire and how it happens as well as shares what an artist thinks of life after 60 years of marriage and 70 years of work. And despite all the shit and poverty and corruption and manipulation the film explores it subverts the expected ending of “ well its all shit isn't it?” and makes the billionaire donate all his money towards a new future, the stern father give up his deep beliefs in the name of his daughter and granddaughters love and punishes all the greedy who do not change by the end of it making sure we understand that we are not doomed and we can make different decisions. Is it a bit too long? Yeah. Do you need a shit ton of references to follow? Yeah. Bit intellectually exhausting because of the infinite amount of ideas? Absolutely. Its made to be seen 3 x so then you can finally catch it all. There is so much symbolism in the corners of the shots.
Its strange to me that with how fake the clock looked in that one scene, why didn't they just make a prop they could have stood on? Its not something so out there you could only do it in CG. People are just getting lazy, dumping everything onto CG artists, totally overworking them, and ending up shocked when it looks bad.
I think this comes back to a bit of poor planning and inexperience when it comes to VFX. Too many people assume you can simply "fix it in post" and it will look good. It's certainly become a more widespread problem, and VFX artists get unfairly maligned as a result. I imagine they didn't know that a clock was going to end up being there. I agree a practical one would've looked much better and likely cheaper!
Shame, it _sounds_ cool and I kind of like the visuals although I agree some of it feels like a first-draft vision rather than anything coherent. Sounds like the kind of film that coulda been really good if only it went beyond that first draft...
It's a masterpiece thatll take American viewers a decade to catch up to: bombastic, fragmented, hyper edited, even cartoonish, in order to reflect the sheer banality and our bizarre ideological amalgamations as the American empire comes to an end.
It's certainly all of those things! (Aside from a masterpiece in my opinion). But I'm not convinced time will be kind to it. I'm glad you enjoyed it, and you're certainly not the only one!
@@SweatEagle I've always contended Tool is trash, their entire discography. I once wrote a 5000 word essay on why Korn was the superior band. I received death threats.
Have you seen Megalopolis? Which films are you looking forward to this year?
I'll take this over another damn adaptation any day.
I just wish it was better! Adaptations can be great, but we are really lacking big budget original films.
Adam Driver is gonna get typecast as a guy hired onto hign-budget turds that completely piss away the potential of an actor like that.
I hope not. I think he's capable of great things. All actors have duds 🤷♂️
Good analysis, subscribed. Looking forward to seeing the channel grow. Keep up the good work mate!
Thank you so much! Really appreciate it.
The whole discourse around it made me realize how much I was hoping for a brilliant high-concept, slow-burn, metaphoric sci-fi film, where you immediately go back to watch it a second time to wrap your head around what you had just seen.
Alas, with everyone saying how insane it is and Mark Kermode calling it the cinemtic equivalent of toothache I think I have to see this regardless.
Great first vid!
That description sounds exactly like something I would love! For some reason the first film that comes to mind with that description is Arrival (2016). It was certainly one of my favourite films of that year!
I've heard Mark Kemode was particularly scathing. I haven't seen his review yet as I was deliberately avoiding them all!
i strongly disliked this movie but comparing it to neil breen is absolutely insane. lol
I was perhaps being slightly hyperbolic. But there was a scene towards the end of the film that you can glimpse in the trailer where you see the 2 leads from behind in Megalopolis and their feet are literally sliding along the ground! That's what made me unironically think of Niel Breen. 😂
funny tho
I watched it last night. I don't understand the hate for it. The film is BETTER than reviewers say it is and it's not even close. Yes the movie is insane, but it's never boring, it's funny, it's interesting and it's a great looking picture. REally don't get the hate.
I agree it's never boring! And there are some well composed shots and interesting themes and ideas. I guess for me, I need those things to come together coherently. I admire the ambition of the project, but it just didn't work for me. I'm glad you enjoyed the film!
even if you like it, i think it's pretty easy to understand why people don't. i don't consider myself a film snob by any means but as someone who enjoys experimental and sometimes impenetrable movies, this one just felt way too self-indulgent and fascinated with itself for me to get past. it felt like an even more pretentious lars von trier movie to me
The movie is completely coherent within its own world. Its a fable, therefore works with archetypes, plays with the past and the future to mirror the present, explores media exploitation, power hunger, love, hope and destruction all while following a hero’s journey in 3 acts. Even goes from death to rebirth to birth. It talks about the fall of the current empire and how it happens as well as shares what an artist thinks of life after 60 years of marriage and 70 years of work. And despite all the shit and poverty and corruption and manipulation the film explores it subverts the expected ending of “ well its all shit isn't it?” and makes the billionaire donate all his money towards a new future, the stern father give up his deep beliefs in the name of his daughter and granddaughters love and punishes all the greedy who do not change by the end of it making sure we understand that we are not doomed and we can make different decisions. Is it a bit too long? Yeah. Do you need a shit ton of references to follow? Yeah. Bit intellectually exhausting because of the infinite amount of ideas? Absolutely. Its made to be seen 3 x so then you can finally catch it all. There is so much symbolism in the corners of the shots.
Its strange to me that with how fake the clock looked in that one scene, why didn't they just make a prop they could have stood on? Its not something so out there you could only do it in CG. People are just getting lazy, dumping everything onto CG artists, totally overworking them, and ending up shocked when it looks bad.
I think this comes back to a bit of poor planning and inexperience when it comes to VFX. Too many people assume you can simply "fix it in post" and it will look good. It's certainly become a more widespread problem, and VFX artists get unfairly maligned as a result. I imagine they didn't know that a clock was going to end up being there. I agree a practical one would've looked much better and likely cheaper!
Liking, subscribing and thanking the algorithm for recommending this
Thank you so much! 🙏
Great first video 👌🏻
Thank you!
I was literally thinking those special effects looked like old video game cut-scenes when you said it. 🤓
It looks bad in the footage I was able to find, but it looked so much worse on a big screen! 😬
Great video dude keep it up
Thanks for the kind words.
Shame, it _sounds_ cool and I kind of like the visuals although I agree some of it feels like a first-draft vision rather than anything coherent. Sounds like the kind of film that coulda been really good if only it went beyond that first draft...
I agree it could've been something special. I think a "first-draft version" is an apt description. I really want original ideas and films to succeed!
It's a masterpiece thatll take American viewers a decade to catch up to: bombastic, fragmented, hyper edited, even cartoonish, in order to reflect the sheer banality and our bizarre ideological amalgamations as the American empire comes to an end.
It's certainly all of those things! (Aside from a masterpiece in my opinion). But I'm not convinced time will be kind to it. I'm glad you enjoyed it, and you're certainly not the only one!
Ah yes, like the newest Tool album. It wasn’t underwhelming, wE jUSt DidN’T uNdeRsTAnD iT.
@@SweatEagle I've always contended Tool is trash, their entire discography. I once wrote a 5000 word essay on why Korn was the superior band. I received death threats.
@@fireinthesky2333 ngl this is some good trolling. Took me too long to realize. 👌
@@fireinthesky2333 that's hilarious, i did 5000 word essay on why the B-52 are better than Korn.
there should be no confusion of troubled history because one is called caesar and one is called cicero
A good point. The film itself however didn't do a great job of explaining their dynamic.
"original film" = atlas shrugged with roman names
It's still original for Hollywood!