I had neighbors that had the cops called about 15-20 times a month. That’s exactly what they did lol they would send someone passed the house 10 times a day. Marked the house as a “nuisance”
or revoke the fostering privileges of the adults in charge of the group home ... pretty sure it's just foster parents running "group homes." it's a set of adults with multiple sets of foster children. some of them just do it for the money and u get situations like this. if they own their home through inheritance they still need to pay taxes on it so they are struggling for money.
My father went through the foster system. He was abused, molested, used as a servant. That was 55 years ago. The system for kids is still sh!t. Can our country focus on a solution already?
This is America. Until we can set up a foster care system that will enable a company to make large profits, nothing is going to change. America, "Profit is our God".
@LuvLuv Godess no that's what the problem is with this society is that people don't take responsibility! Children aren't born that way it's the parents who failed them in the first place
@@matthewsanabria3253 / going by your logic no one is ever born with brain disorders like schizophrenia and the many others disorders. Jeffery Dahmer said he had good parents and in no way were they to blame for his behavior. If what you say is true then every kid coming out of this facility should be committing violent crimes.
@@10speed4 you make no sense. Unless the children are born with inheritable and unmitigatable mental illnesses, then the parents are to blame for their bad upbringing
WHY does it take these kids to do all this for anyone to “look into” this group home??!! Always a day late dollar short. Their parents failed them, the courts failed them, the damn group home failed them. This world is a wicked, wicked place!! Thank God the deputies are ok.
The pills the Sheriff deputies were using to medicate them could give those kids lead poisoning...at least this Romeo and Juliet story has a better ending.
@White lives Matter medication that the school system is starting to recomend to parents. Instead of making them go out and have recess all day, fat teachers are taking the easy route by just giving them pills that makes them dumb
if you are desperate enough and terrified of the repercussions of being taken back to an abusive situation you would be surprised what you will do. Don't judge them until you know their story. --You want to judge someone how about judging the home owners for not having their guns safety locked and in a location they could not be found by 2 children who would use anything they can to prevent being taken back to a group home.
No the cops should be lucky to be alive and not having a kids death on their hands. Both sides are lucky to be alive and I feel more for those kids in the end. Some people don't know the absent of parents and growing up in a failed system to protect and raise em. Cops make hard choices but a kid willing to make the choice of dying so not going back into a crap situation is even harder and its a cornered feeling with no exit or help
Says the guy that never witnessed child protective services at their finest. Children's shelters and foster homes interspersed with dangerous medications and countless academic transfers. These kids show up to school with no lunch or holes in their shoes and some administrator on a power trip likes to teach the group home a lesson and suspend the student. Every. Day. Welcome to the U.S.A. Allegations of insurecting violence or human trafficking will get you a gofundme but victims get shitkicked down the road. Kids and all. We take our capitalism very seriously here.
@@kathylarson8876 Those high crime cities have to many GUNS!! How are most Homicides committed????? Guns!! MORON.. We need to adapt the same regulations as Norway, Switzerland, France and the rest of Europe in order for the Homicides to go down. Regulations needs to be national wide for it to work.
@@2311ification the bad guys get guns anyway, moron, and democrats states with highest crime rate have strictest gun laws, moron, do you think anyone would hand their guns over, moron, you must be a Democrat and all that hate coming from the democrats don't help much, that only gives people with some mental disability reason to kill
@@kathylarson8876 Lol haa. Are you following your logic???? I said it has to be implemented nationwide for Gun regulations to work!! You can't have strict gun laws in the city and different gun laws the county or state over. MORON!! Other countries have done this and Homicides went significantly down. Regarding criminal won't obey the law then why do we have theft laws???? Robbers don't care about Theft laws so we shouldn't have any laws against theft. Out of all the modern countries in Europe and countries like Japan and Australia the Homicide rate is way LOWER!!! Why?? Because they have strict gun control!!! It doesn't take a Genius to figure out that more guns equals more Deaths. Go back to watching Trump inauguration of 2016 and start crying. lol haa
Sounds like these Foster Homes are being over-whelmed. Probably the parents of these kids, got hooked on these drugs that are coming over the Southern Border, or are making shore right there in Florida. Then the parents probably ended up in jail. More needs to be done to stop these drugs and keep families together.
@@earlofmar7987 never going to happen Dea wants the never ending war on drug to fill its jails and addiction clinics and the host of other government run programs or it would have fixed it in over 45 years of trying. It is that hard to lock down borders.
@@karencarpenter5845 You are absolutely right Karen. Democrat's and some Republicans, don't want to solve the problem because they benefit financially from it. The Clinton's & Bribden's used to have stock in all these Addiction Clinic's & Private Prison's. Wa-la, the Crime Bill, that Bribden wrote and Clinton signed. That was easy money for them, while the rest of us suffer.
@@rowstone3019 Yes, it has. I wish Churches could get more involved. It used to be really bad back in the 1930-40's. They'd just put orphan's on the "Orphan Trains". They'd stop, and if somebody wanted a kid, they could just come get one. Record's were not really kept on these kids, so recent Genealogist's trying to find them, can't. Most were used a farm labor, and never received an education or even got a Soc. Sec. number. Some had a pretty descent life & realized who they were. Most didn't remember where they even came from or who their real parents were.
@Mr. & Mrs. Laraunt So You Would Be Fine With The 14 & 12 Yr. Old If They Broke Into Ur Home& Tried To Shoot U & Ur Family Up??Where The Hell Are Their Parents-- What Were The Parents Doing That They Don't Have Custody Of Their Own Children??You Can Hear In His Voice How Much He Didn't Want This To Happen!!!!What If Someone In That Neighborhood Got Shot By Those Kids Becuz The Police Did Nothing To Stop Them?? This Is An Entirely Sh*try Situation ALL Around & Seriously Causes One To Think, My God, If They Have NO QUALMS SHOOTING AT POLICE AT 14 & 12 YRS. OLD, WHAT IN GOD'S GREEN EARTH WILL THEY BE WILLING TO DO WHEN THEY ARE OLDER??THANK GOD THEY DIDN'T GET A CHANCE TO SHOOT UP THE FAMILY THAT LIVES AT THAT HOUSE!!!!MAY GOD PLEASE PUT A HEDGE OF PROTECTION AROUND ALL CHILDREN & POLICE & FIRST RESPONDERS!!!!MAY GOD BLESS ALL, MAY WE STAND DTRONG TOGETHER IN FAITH WWG1WGA PRAYERSNLUV 👼👼✝️✝️
@@wendyladybug355laurie4 dont worry when you people drag us into ww3 AND ACTUALLY NEED HELP, We'll be sure to send our tots and pears, I mean thoughts and prayers.
How come cops are fearful for their lives when encountering unarmed black kids so much so they end up killing them. Now here they are faced with armed white kids shooting at them and are able to resolve the situation without killing them. Am happy the kids weren't killed but must point out if they were black the cops would have flattened that house with bullets and dragging out bullet riddled bodies and then saying they had no choice but to take such measures to resolve the situation.
@@ToxicNova5 says the 300 calls but no investigation 💩🤭 U must be a 🐷, i mean a 👮♀️who dont do your job either. A thot will side with a thot A thief will side with a kleptomaniac Ect. Ect. Quit showing your hand🤲👋👐🖐 Even Without pics WE SEE YALL🦲🥓🦳🦱🦰👀👀👀👀👀
I'll tell you how we can fix this problem. We need to reestablish mental health centers that were destroyed during the Regan administration which were destroyed for good reason.
@@ceciliarios3787 I was looking for someone to bring this up, I was wondering why nobody else said that, oh but wait, then I'd be "pulling the race card". I thought about Tamir Rice while watching this. a little black boy around there age holding a toy gun and was shot and killed. I hope police in the future have the same amount of restraint while dealing with brown children.
@@ceciliarios3787 there isn't a single source that has released their identities nor discriptions. Don't play that victim card. We all know who does the school shootings and we all know who does the r wording and the killing, including playing fun games like sucker punch the old white folks. Cute isn't it how innocent a cultural identity likes to pretend they are. Stereotypes aren't just there for when they suit you, sweetheart. Bless your soul.
Sure there may be problems at the group home but what about personal responsibility...By the time you are 12 years old you can make decisions and know the difference between right and wrong...
Don't blame it on the group home. They can't fix the problem. Blame it on the kids race and their parents. The group home can't fix the worlds problems.
That group home must be something awful for those kids to do something like that to avoid going back. The police should investigate the home to see why they didn't want to return.
@@dianadundidit5343 And maybe it's not! I won't post anything else about these kids, until they explain what is going on! And then, either I will be right or I will be totally wrong and will remove the comment!
Rice Tamir a 12 ye old was playing with a toy gun, police was called... within seconds not minutes Tamir was shot dead by the police. Two kids 12,14yrs old with assault rifles, in a gun fight with police...are arrested...taken alive.
The girl got shot twice so I don’t get what you mean by that and also tamir rice had a hoodie on and a realistic gun and was pointing it and people so the cops had no choice
@@yeetthelizard4307 he was not pointing a gun at anyone when the cops arrived. He was alone in the park and executed on sight. There is a video of the shooting
Police in Tamir Rice shooting used poor tactics based upon the information they had prior to arriving. The Audio released from them also was very telling to their mindset.
Probably not much. The number one reason CPS used to take children was for parents testing positive for marijuana...sometimes they even make up accusations to take the children so they can get their funding
That’s an important question but let’s not lose perspective on the situation: -These kids were at the group home when they committed this crime, not with their parents. -These kids were at the group home when they got ahold of firearms, not with their parents. -The group home has needed police response 300 times!? You can’t blame that all on the parents, regardless, not even the kids. This is a group home which receives funding to do it’s job as well as possible to keep the kids that end up there safe, to try to turn their life around, and to keep society safe from them. They’ve clearly not done a very good job at all. The juvenile justice and CPS systems are riddled with corruption from within and without. If one is going to talk about “welfare druggie parents” they should also look up the hundreds and thousands of cases of foster parents and group homes who have done the most vile stuff to get their check from the state.
Those group homes are hell. Trust me. But that’s no reason for a shoot out. You should find out just why they didn’t want to go back that bad cause there’s definitely a reason.
Was there a reason, sure. Was it a good one? Doubtful. I grew up in the system, even had my state pay for my college. Lot of times it's just immature kids that think they are "gangsta", simple as that. Thankfully I grew out of that phase and turned my life around.
@@dylanh4657 kids 15-20 don't make very good decisions sometimes. They build crap up in their heads, get super emotional, think being a grown up is being a badass.
@@kingpest13 And unfortunately, we've been immersed into a culture where being 'badass' is now what a lot of kids aspire to be. look at all the movies and TV that emphasize violence as the solution to everything. We even had a president who supported that idea. The U.S.A. is going down the tubes, fast.
I was a homeless child in the 70s. The kids who ran from foster care had the most horrific stories. I made up my mind, I'll catch a charge and go to juvie first.😐 this sounds like desperation...😔🌺
I'm sure a deep investigation will uncover some very disturbing things It is sad a child should have to go through the foster care process. Every child should know love and security, bad things happen when they don't....
Which is ridiculous. I'd think that the sheriff having to go that one foster home over 300 times in a single year would raise a red flag in the system that something was wrong.
Peyton Ham.....white kid with fake gun. I can go on and on with the list. We don't see these cases because it doesn't fit their narrative of keeping that division and feeling of victimhood they want. Sorry that narrative is false. Except you are right about them trying to throw it in our faces. The media is the gov pawns and they show us whatever the gov wants us to believe. Whenever you get a certain message from media always look into it yourself.
why are we more concerned about the gun used than whats going on for kids this young to do these crimes? forget the guns, there is something else that caused this
Because nobody cares if kids are able to get a gun. Guns are too cool to not have and so everyone (except minorities) should get a gun, even if they have homicidal tendencies.
Those kids knew they had a choice between going back to abuse or go down fighting. The fact that they chose to go down fighting is a major indicator that the home and the state massively failed them. These are CHILDREN, do you truly believe they truly knew what they were doing, do you truly believe this wasn't a decision based on desperation.
The stories I've heard about them group homes and the things that are happening to kids there are just horrible to say the least. Get those kids some help please and investigate that group home asap!!!
As bad as the 'group home' may be, it's within a culture which aggrandizes gun toting criminals. TX NRA Right Wingers wants military weapons for everyone, as many as they want, and they can carry loaded weapons in public. Guns are gods for a third of Americans.
We need to stop throwing our children away like they are trash! They are our future. I think the police did very well here. Everyone went home. But that home they came from must be investigated!
Yes your right they are our future that's why they are being brought up like this this is the people they want in charge of our country don't believe me Jesus said do not fear for me fear for your children
It's a failed system. 1) Parents have no right upbringing at home. "Because parents are both out working and, many cases are just babies having babies" to benefit from welfare and social securities benefits. 2) some of these homes take the grants but not really having adequate staff and follow up programs. A) you're in a program 3 call out you going in. B) residents of these homes need to have a guidance rules in house treatment. Some don't have these to offered but yet they get the grants. 3) To a close. The American Social system its a failure. Since able bodies are willing to have off springs for social welfare benefits instead of getting to work. a) If you are mentally capable to bared child yiur able to ho to work and raise a child unfortunately families morals have all being washed out down the toilets. Parents real parents can not discipline a child because they be in jail same in schools. Hate that this happened but? Could be avoided if law will not interfere with the families rights to bring up a child. Unfortunately society has created that parents need to go to work because one man can not support a family (bigger homes, bigger cars, RV's etc....all of which bought with loans. Fact is that the working class will always stay a working class while the industries gets reaches and prices are up forcing the families whom have no controls over expenditures to work more while the richess classes get richer and the working class stays the same digging deeper in to finances. The family starts at home where once was a root, anchor. Now there's no anchors at home their away working leaving the young at home alone. These is my own personal opinion hope that may not offend anybody but if it's really family matters? Save for what you want pay in full and stay one at home up bringing a child right. However, parenting laws need to be scrutinize too, not taking that parents rights away.
If the girl survives she should be sent to an adult prison for a couple years. Since she wants to act like an adult she should be punished like an adult. Absolutely unacceptable & reckless behavior.
I'm confused by your suggestion. They Should be sent to a "youth prison" that's high security(most likely will). Not sure what sending a child to mix with adult criminals will help unless your suggesting some kind of harm come to them...
For once I truly feel awful for the shooters. Can't imagine what version of hell on earth they were living to make children think that this was their best option. Terrible.
Maybe it's not "hell on earth" at all but these kids just didn't like being told what to do. Jumping to conclusions does not help. A through investigation of why they left is a good start.
This is how it is for almost all of our most violent criminals. Walk a mile in someone’s shoes, it doesn’t justify what people do but some of these people have truly been through hell. In this case I can’t imagine what someone has seen or been through in 12 short years to make them do something like this.
@@357Addict So they started shooting deputies just because they “didn’t like being told what to do” is this seriously what you’re going with here or have I misunderstood in that case I apologize
First off how did the get access to the firearms, and second is I wonder was happened to them in foster care system for them to resort to such extreme measures?
Florida foster care system must be super fucced up.. I don’t think any foster care system is perfect.. but imagine Florida being the worst.. horrible people in these places.. i feel bad for the kids.. they were in the hunger games literally..
I'm more concerned with the fact that this seems to be happening every single day during hearings for an ATF director who wants to repeal the 2nd amendment
All these tragic stories have this among other in common... Family structures.. Mothers and Fathers not present. And the active destruction of the family unit. These things have real consequences.
@Néca-estel if it isn’t a gun it’s something else. It’ll be a self destructive life of drugs or what ever. Taking the gun away isn’t gonna stop motivation to pick up the gun. It’s the rot cause that needs to be fixed, not the outcome.
These kids probably have been repeated abuse by many people in the system and that lead them to act like this. This is very sad. Many groups home and foster homes who's supposed to take good care of these children ended up being the one that abuse them.
Yeah they were most likely abused/mistreated every step of the way. Of course they ended up in the group home somehow - probably through delinquency (and lack of parenting), which is to say they already weren't the sweetest apples in the bunch.
You don't know their story so let's not make assumptions to try to justify their actions. There have Ben thousands abused and they never felt the need to break into someone's home and shoot at other people
Maybe in the 300 incidents at the home.. just one person could have figured out... Hey maybe we need to try something different with these kids. But it's easier to say, it's social services fault we had to shoot these kids.. I'd say it's everyone's fault these kids are a product of modern society. A epidemic of selfishness and arrogant behavior.. but that's not new the world has always been crazy it's just easier to see the daily madness now...
And when are they going to charge the legal gun owner with gross negligence? Could afford an ak-47, but couldn't afford to properly store them in a gun safe? Oh wait, this is America. The erroneous view of the 2nd amendment as a personal right to bear arms against criminals is so stupid. Thanks NRA!
@@OberynTheRedViper I wudnt blame the gun onwers for the storage of the guns if they're not illegally owned but the Kidz were the main situation we all need to worri about rather than lose sight of the problem.... there's a problem at the facility if Kidz rather shot it out before going back.... that's my only interest...
@@bmxscape that's not my position to judge them on home defense since they live in Wonderful ole FLORIDA where they carry ak's everywhere and shot up concerts...so yea there might be a gud enough reason to protect yourself and your family....
Those kids need to be tried as adults. Absolutely ZERO leniency in sentencing if found guilty. Also,. Another reason for people to take the personal responsibility of owning large gun safe and store their unattended firearms.
Tbh im sure this sort of thing has happened before, probably just didn't get coverage. I bet this happens like once every 10 years or so. Just now days people are extra sensitive and like to watch dramatic things. 🙄
This is a Sad situation ' what they did is diff. Wrong , but they are kids no telling what dramatic events they bn thru in their lives or what their mind set bn going thru ' the group home & child protected system is to blame also!!
@@bethkrager6529 what a monstrous thing to say. I'm sure you only say it for attention, and for that, I am sorry you are so messed up. May you get the help that you so obviously need. X
I mean, here’s a speculation. Note that I have zero information on the kids life’s. BUT Imagine having it so bad that you’d rather possibly commit suicide by cop than stay alive. Or maybe getting in a gun battle because you’d rather go to jail than stay in foster care? Who knows. Certainly though there must be some sort of mental/traumatic/abusive issue here.
high chance, they may have lost their souls by such treatments, and find a soulless way to demand society to bring them back. i know what you are talking about, i know two friends wasted under psychiatric care thanks to their parents
@@Thizzamajig You just can't make a group home a nice place. It's where kids go after everyone in their lives have given up on them. No matter how nice you make it, kids are always going to want to get out of there, especially the ones with serious behavioral issues. It's just like being in jail. I'm not quick to blame the staff, the police, or anyone else.
Many of those children in "group homes" have been through hell, came from bad family situations to begin with, have some special problems, mentally or physically, or have been abused. Some investigating of the system, and situation needs to happen.
For real no guidance whatsoever these kids had no chance lost ever since they came out the womb they had no chance at all and we don't know what happened behind closed doors but we could only assume he grew up in the toxic household and from there we don't know but it's sad that they took it this far 12 13 years old with that much hatred already that's something wrong right there using aks n sh!t
Many people shouldn't be having kids in the first place. You know the freedom of choice and speech and movement are wonderful things. But in the hands of bad people absolutely wreck society. Freedom is a responsibility, and too many people lack in the responsibility department. And then use freedom as their shield.
Yes we have been through hell. My entire childhood stolen . Around violent criminals and sexual predators. Even though I wasnt raised with parents or have any family and my adoptive family threw me away in there to be abused. I will rise up and be the front line when the time comes We are fkn ruthless and know despair, we know abuse we know what this system is and has failed in. We lived that hell and know how to bring hell to others if we want to. I'm still a good kid with a good heart. But I've had it with this failed system. I am now the systems worst nightmare . You free to suppress me . Tired to label me all sorts of false labels. Abused the crap out of us. We are the children that will rise ,we are the fearless children that already bucked the system , we are the misfits that will rise and lead when no one else will because we KNOW how broken it is and what is at stake. We will rise
@@xXxGordO241xXx yes I feel like that in my post. It's upset me a lot again I loved what they have. I also want to go in there and talk to these kids . I would have walked in there vested up no weapon and tried. I know where they came from. I know. Because I'm from the same place. I want to push the anger towards that system down and help . The anger is really strong towards it, I feel these kids and feel for them. These kids are going to help lead your revolution realise that we were raised in a place where we were beaten down for ever even questioning authority, we are literally children of a tyrannical system and know the signs we know what this is. I'm just trying to subside my inner revolutionary because the better half of me wants to walk right in there and talk to these kids. I'm still recovering at 35 from what happened to myself. But I know I can help. Don't give up on those kids because when the time comes they can be your greatest allies or worst enemies. Im surprised how upset this made me and is good cops haven't killed them at least. This took everything from me my childhood gone, abused so much. Locked in concrete bunkers.. tested in.. this made me a child of darkness. that can terrify the crap out of anyone if I want to. also made the child of light that has been there and wants to make a positive difference in this world.
they report the cases to department of child services ... they let the kids down. the cops are the middle men in child neglect cases. they need permission to remove the children from the home.
Child and family services let the kids down...their parents let the kids down...their relatives let the kids down... the cops are keepers of the peace not the kids parents, relatives, or child and family mental health councelors. The cops are literally stuck in the middle but since they are easy to see they get the blame? Pathetic.
@Roman deStreets “these are little rejects that should be eliminated” you clearly have no humanity in this statement so I will come to the conclusion that you’re either a troll or a heartless person that doesn’t have concern over the conditions , mental health factors and automatically comes to the decision to put children to death
I'm trying to give people even government agencies the benefit of the doubt and I will say maybe it's just so many kids in the system they can barely handle it. But then again there is child human trafficking going on and I've heard of some horror stories from years back involving prominent people and agencies of the like child protective Services. I don't advocate violence killing or abortion but it makes you wonder if most of these kids aren't better off Dead. God help us because we need it.
These guns WERE IN A SECURE LOCATION...INSIDE ANOTHER PERSON'S LOCKED HOME! These kids illegally BROKE IN 🙄. And, no, (as sad as it is) there are no "grieving families" these kids could have left behind...they lived in a group home for foster children. They're wards of the state with no parents/family. This is all discussed in the news story though. I'm just honestly shocked & appalled at how many people are trying to place 'blame' on the homeowners. They're victims of a home invasion. Everyone needs to STOP blaming guns for everything & start blaming the people responsible for committing these criminal acts!
@@erayburn6354 The grieving families that I was referring to are those of the deputies if one had died. Securing guns even within your home can help avoid guns being stolen with home invasions, grandkids getting ahold of them, kids taking them to school. A responsible gun owner knows the danger of guns, a kid is lacking in judgement. I do feel sorry for these kids, but I would feel worse if an officer had died and their kids were left without a parent.
What parents? If they were in a group home that means they were orphans. This shows how terrible foster care is that children would rather die in a police shooting than live in an orphanage. Idiots really wanna ban abortions and make kids live in this kind of environment where they would rather be dead anyhow.
Tragic but so true when you open fire on law enforcement you are no longer a juvie nor child , you have entered the adult world of cops and robbers & killers.
I could make a list of possibilities but it would probably get me banned from TH-cam. I have worked at group homes, and other residential facilities for children. The staff is usually entry level people who learn bad habits and poor child care skills so unless a child is favored they can become a scapegoat, a narcissistic target, or simply abused in multiple ways. --It took great courage for these kids to run because if they are brought back to the same place things are just going to get worse for them.
@@selanryn5849 Chicago, LA, NY, Seattle, SF, Portland, Michigan, Minnesota... any of those place have anything in common, Einstein? Keep on eating yourselves while the world watches.
True, they should close down and throw the thieving cop killers out on the street, oh yes, they still are wonderful specimens of society because they didn't manage their objective to kill cops,
@@kathylarson8876 So you're angry that someone got shot at but you're not angry that children can so easily obtain guns to kill each other? Your priorities are upside down.
@@one-day-at-a-time4134 I guess unlike you, I see the fault in the persons shooting each other, seems ironic that democratic cities that hate cops have the most crime, I suppose it would be to your liking than only 'children', young drug peddling thugs would have guns, and no I am angry only when they shoot a cop or a real child, not another thug, and am just glad I live in a Republican state
when are people going to realize that some are just born to do stuff like this,stop blamming and making excuses for them its not lack of family,mental health resources-if anything blame alcohol and drugs for fetal alcohol syndromes and low iqs being created....
Don't judge them until you know what they had gone through that made them desperate enough to run away. If you were 12 and 14 and in the hands of people who was mentally/emotionally/physically/psychologically and possibly sexually abusing you or a younger child and saw no other way out but to do anything you could to keep from being send back...would you say the same thing???
@@grrlinduluth Lol yeah the kids were born to go shoot an ak at cops. Why don't you stop blaming individuals (in this instance literal kids lmao) and instead the systems and environments that propagate and help lead to situations such as what happened here.
Did you not hear the story? These are children in the system, orphans, children removed from homes, etc. They ran away from a group home that they were placed in. They were running from the guardians.
This is so sad. Our society is falling apart, there’s too much sadness and struggle. It doesn’t have to be this way. We can do so much better than what we are doing in America
The bottom half of our society is completely falling apart. There is also a growing permanent underclass. Those people will become the American version of the untouchables.
We can do better, but better is just too much for most people to bother with when they finally have their little comfort zone to themselves. Literally nobody cares what hardship you face as long as things are going OK for them, its been like this before any lockdowns. Communities and families aren't in anymore, its all about individualism, being individually enslaved to $$$.
@@RP-vi8fx yes however, the home has principals And the kids are thought values, the saddest think is that These kids came too late in life to benefit From it.
You know, I can’t imagine what this kids are going through. It says a lot when children believe that their only way out from whatever situation they are in is by shooting at officers. Clearly it’s a cry for help. Foster homes are not great. What sucks even more is how children are put into homes where they are being abused and nothing is done about it, even after being called to someone’s attention.
still not a reason to pull guns out on officers and attempt to murder them. seems like they want to go the opposite way (downhill) and go to jail instead of doing their decade or two in a foster home with no problems.
Maybe he just hid it in a closet or something so his kids couldn't get it them and while the 2 people that broke in his house just happened to find it but I have a question do u have to put your forearm in a gun safe while in your house cuz I know in a car there is like a certain way you have to transport it or dose it very whatever state u go to?
They never said the firearms weren't in s safe. And for the record, many big box store safes are not as secure as you might think. So if these kids had a crow bar, they probably could of broke into the safe and got the guns. Although I will say this person who owned this home could of invested into a ul tl-30 which would be a difficult and time consuming safe to break into.
Yah how are you gonna get to that strong metal cabinet in the middle of the night to "Defend yourself" BAHAH Got to sleep with it under your pillow so it goes off and saves the world some trouble.
Actually foster children do not belong in the juvenile justice system. Most were dealt an awful upbringing that resulted in them not being able to remain in their home...
@@missb2182 ACTUALLY some do. Sometimes there are just bad kids and even when given resources like therapy and medication it doesn’t help them. Foster kids are never just placed in DJJ they are leveled up to secured foster homes/group facilities until they commit crimes. I’m a CPS SOCIAL WORKER. Thanks for coming to my Ted talk.
Dont take me wrong I am in no way condoning their actions they are still kids, violent kids?? obviously !!!!! to be the devils advocate though I doubt they TRUELY had any idea what the real consequences were/are to what they were doing. There is more to this than meets the eye. Its may be part of the issue but I dont think it was entirely "well it was a terrible group/ foster home" There is more to this and The Flordia AG needs to be on this like ants on sugar to put it politely.
These children clearly need help! You can not possibly have any idea what they have been through! Trying these children as adults will not benefit the children, the community, nor anyone involved in this situation! I understand that you feel that their actions are adult and they therefore deserve adult consequences, but I believe that especially since no one was killed or seriously injured besides one of the shooters, it makes FAR MORE sense to focus on meeting the unmet needs of these youth that this incident clearly exposes! This was not planned & premeditated, the children found those weapons in the house! Another important question I didn't hear anyone mention is: why weren't those weapons stored responsibly? The AK-47 at the very least should have been very securely locked up! That is NOT a weapon of self-defense! If punishment & consequences were actually effective with these children, it's unlikely this event would've happened to begin with. It's clear that there is a much more serious & deeper situation going on here which needs to be addressed! This is absolutely NOT normal or typical behavior for children! Have you no empathy for the level of horrific events that these children must have endured to make them react in this way?! We KNOW that sentencing them to spend the rest of their youth and young adult years in prison has NO possibility for preparing them to become law abiding, productive members of society! There's no doubt or question about that. Prison is essentially a very effective "school" which teaches inmates to become true criminals and connects them to the networks which will enable that to happen once they are released. Only by taking into account their age and how they have been failed and their basic needs unmet, do we have the possibility to devise an effective treatment that has any possibility of giving these youth the tools, resources & support they require to build productive and successful lives as adults!
no, just make sure that we throw as many parents in prison as possible to put even more kids into foster care. Straining the system more will defiantly help.
@@auroramothergoddess Yes. And the government needs to stop paying more benefits for every child born out of wedlock and without a man to help raise the kids. Fatherless homes are a huge problem.
@@JunkMailBoxStuff better yet mandated vasectomys for all the poor men and boys and mandated tubes tied for poor women and girls ....but oh wait what’s best for society isn’t part of the plan ...the government knows what they’re doing it’s all orchestrated and your just a puppet in their scheme
@@auroramothergoddess No need for that. Planned ParentHOOD is in the poor areas for the murder of their own unborn children. This culture is toxic to their own. If they don't kill you in the womb, they will kill their own later in life. Sick and disgusting.
"This is something that I have never seen in all my years in law enforcement"....something wrong....every day is a gun shoot 🔫and another one get drop...we don't want no more of that...love your brother's and sister's...
it's not the system that's broken-- it's the sorry parents, crazy @$$ social workers, group home coordinators, and family court judges that are running the system that are broken asf--- they throw these poor kids around worse than animals and fail to keep check on them.. animal shelters are more caring and protective than these people
I just want to make a comment as someone that was in a group home and Foster Care. Those kids have nothing to lose. If they're anything like me they've lost anyone and everything important in they're life. I feel for em. Group homes don't ever do what they say they do. I've never been to one that didn't come with physical abuse or some other form of neglect. Our foster care system needs an entire redesign and nobody talks about it. They just point their finger at the justice system. Don't forget about that kid that was drug out of his bed in the middle of the night and take him somewhere where he didn't know never had a normal life again.
Do you really think the problem is fixable? Like your family abandoned you and you're in the care of the state, how do you possibly make that a nice situation?
@@squarecracker you go off what you know. Some know better than others, some don't know much of anything. You go from foster home to group home to mental heath facilities and shelter, its a cycle, and a crazy one for children to go through just to thrust back into the streets to truly fend for themselves in a world Theyve been essentially kept away from due to rules and such.i was in dhs in oklahoma from barely 7yrs old until i was nearly 15. My first foster home was more abusive than anything id ever experienced. Lost story short i was split up from my brother and sister only to be reunited like 5 years later at an adoptive home to be separated again. They got adopted and i didnt. I was left in the system and told to say goodbye to my brother and sister. I then went place to place destroying everything in my path at like 11 because my entire life had been ripped from. I could and i mean literally write a book about my experience, Possibly several books about the things i personally went through and experienced. Im sure anyone would read it though...
@@OkieBadu I would , my mom went thru something similar as well with her sisters. Nobody to teach u how your choices affect your future, not knowing what the future will b for you because u have no control, yea that gotta gotta a rough experience as a child
The police showed incredible restraint when dealing with these kids & that's admirable. Now can they practise the same principles when encountering adults, as long as they are safe ??
Another news article stated this isn't the first time the girl has been in trouble. She was originally sent to a home in another county for stealing puppies and didn't last long in that one as she had burnt the house down and was shipped back to this county.
If the police have to show up 300 times to any location in one year, there might be a problem. They should just put a cop there and save money on gas.
I had neighbors that had the cops called about 15-20 times a month.
That’s exactly what they did lol they would send someone passed the house 10 times a day.
Marked the house as a “nuisance”
or revoke the fostering privileges of the adults in charge of the group home ... pretty sure it's just foster parents running "group homes." it's a set of adults with multiple sets of foster children. some of them just do it for the money and u get situations like this. if they own their home through inheritance they still need to pay taxes on it so they are struggling for money.
Nah rather put em in jit prisons...this is Florida.
Lol
two cops.
My father went through the foster system. He was abused, molested, used as a servant. That was 55 years ago. The system for kids is still sh!t. Can our country focus on a solution already?
Kamallah cant even visit the border lol!
@@rayv0125 Oooh, please tell me you are incapable of adding to the gene pool. We need to keep 'stupid' out of it.
If only people could make better decisions and not have kids when they can’t man. Those kids don’t deserve it
Here's the solution: shut down the foster system entirely. Those kids can learn to survive on the street. Stop wasting tax payer money.
This is America. Until we can set up a foster care system that will enable a company to make large profits, nothing is going to change. America, "Profit is our God".
how bad does a place have to be when you would rather die than go back???
And just today the US media is demonizing how kids are treated in North Korea
@john cena How much of what you but from China was made with forced labor ?
Could be it has nothing to do with the group home but they are just bad kids
Only a liberal would say that. They broke into a house and found guns and used them. Wth!
@@10speed4 if only there were no guns to begin with
That group home needs to be deeply investigated something wrong going on there for sure
Definitely
@LuvLuv Godess no that's what the problem is with this society is that people don't take responsibility! Children aren't born that way it's the parents who failed them in the first place
@@matthewsanabria3253 / going by your logic no one is ever born with brain disorders like schizophrenia and the many others disorders. Jeffery Dahmer said he had good parents and in no way were they to blame for his behavior. If what you say is true then every kid coming out of this facility should be committing violent crimes.
Another mass shooting, another legal gun. When will Republicans do something?
@@10speed4 you make no sense. Unless the children are born with inheritable and unmitigatable mental illnesses, then the parents are to blame for their bad upbringing
WHY does it take these kids to do all this for anyone to “look into” this group home??!! Always a day late dollar short. Their parents failed them, the courts failed them, the damn group home failed them. This world is a wicked, wicked place!! Thank God the deputies are ok.
Yea still can't believe this happened.
1 John 5:19..."The whole world is lying in the power of the wicked one."
This is true
@@littleshepherdfarm2128 yes it is written.
Because of all of the hysteria around "Socialism"
The sheriff talks a lot of sense, those kids need help
The pills the Sheriff deputies were using to medicate them could give those kids lead poisoning...at least this Romeo and Juliet story has a better ending.
@White lives Matter medication that the school system is starting to recomend to parents. Instead of making them go out and have recess all day, fat teachers are taking the easy route by just giving them pills that makes them dumb
Those kids learns from their experience before getting into the juvenile house. Sad
They need to die.
If they are this twisted, eliminate them.
these guns are being supplied to younglings so they can do these things and convince voters to vote blue
Children So-Called Protective Services have a sad history of being anything but.
Welp, those kids certainly believe that to be the case.
And yet they continue to operate like nothing is wrong. Never any form of accountability. It's vile and disgusting
In my city, Houston Texas, they are pure trash. So many kids have been abused or die and it doesn’t make the news.
@@ae86hachi the system needs quality people who care not just old Ronnie saying he’ll watch the kids and keep a eye on them.
Designed to break family's apart.💯
Group home or not, you don’t shoot at cops or anyone. They’re lucky to be alive.
if you are desperate enough and terrified of the repercussions of being taken back to an abusive situation you would be surprised what you will do. Don't judge them until you know their story.
--You want to judge someone how about judging the home owners for not having their guns safety locked and in a location they could not be found by 2 children who would use anything they can to prevent being taken back to a group home.
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@@toscatattertail9813 sorry that they didn’t prepare for two kids to break into their home 🙄 you’re extremely stupid
No the cops should be lucky to be alive and not having a kids death on their hands. Both sides are lucky to be alive and I feel more for those kids in the end. Some people don't know the absent of parents and growing up in a failed system to protect and raise em. Cops make hard choices but a kid willing to make the choice of dying so not going back into a crap situation is even harder and its a cornered feeling with no exit or help
Says the guy that never witnessed child protective services at their finest. Children's shelters and foster homes interspersed with dangerous medications and countless academic transfers. These kids show up to school with no lunch or holes in their shoes and some administrator on a power trip likes to teach the group home a lesson and suspend the student. Every. Day. Welcome to the U.S.A. Allegations of insurecting violence or human trafficking will get you a gofundme but victims get shitkicked down the road. Kids and all. We take our capitalism very seriously here.
Group homes are hell on earth, no rest, much stealing, just pure hell.
Agree, set you up to be institutionalized forever
have you been there ?
They are better off in the streets?
@@jacksonhwyoming1264 When I was 66 and paralyzed / they put me in a group of dope fiends to be predatored / they stole 725.00 and food.
@@jacksonhwyoming1264 yes I have been there I grew up read my post get some insight
If the group home isn't going to watch the kids carefully then they shouldn't be allowed to handle kids point said .
The only way to stop a bad kid with a Gun is a good kid with a Gun. lol haa. Right Wing logic
@@2311ification no police would stop them if the democrats in the high crime rate cities would encourage law and order
@@kathylarson8876 Those high crime cities have to many GUNS!! How are most Homicides committed????? Guns!! MORON.. We need to adapt the same regulations as Norway, Switzerland, France and the rest of Europe in order for the Homicides to go down. Regulations needs to be national wide for it to work.
@@2311ification the bad guys get guns anyway, moron, and democrats states with highest crime rate have strictest gun laws, moron, do you think anyone would hand their guns over, moron, you must be a Democrat and all that hate coming from the democrats don't help much, that only gives people with some mental disability reason to kill
@@kathylarson8876 Lol haa. Are you following your logic???? I said it has to be implemented nationwide for Gun regulations to work!! You can't have strict gun laws in the city and different gun laws the county or state over. MORON!! Other countries have done this and Homicides went significantly down. Regarding criminal won't obey the law then why do we have theft laws???? Robbers don't care about Theft laws so we shouldn't have any laws against theft. Out of all the modern countries in Europe and countries like Japan and Australia the Homicide rate is way LOWER!!! Why?? Because they have strict gun control!!! It doesn't take a Genius to figure out that more guns equals more Deaths. Go back to watching Trump inauguration of 2016 and start crying. lol haa
The Florida Supreme Court needs to investigate The Juvenile Court System there..
Something is seriously screwed up..
Sounds like these Foster Homes are being over-whelmed. Probably the parents of these kids, got hooked on these drugs that are coming over the Southern Border, or are making shore right there in Florida. Then the parents probably ended up in jail. More needs to be done to stop these drugs and keep families together.
@@earlofmar7987 never going to happen Dea wants the never ending war on drug to fill its jails and addiction clinics and the host of other government run programs or it would have fixed it in over 45 years of trying. It is that hard to lock down borders.
It's been messed up for a long time.
@@karencarpenter5845 You are absolutely right Karen. Democrat's and some Republicans, don't want to solve the problem because they benefit financially from it. The Clinton's & Bribden's used to have stock in all these Addiction Clinic's & Private Prison's. Wa-la, the Crime Bill, that Bribden wrote and Clinton signed. That was easy money for them, while the rest of us suffer.
@@rowstone3019 Yes, it has. I wish Churches could get more involved. It used to be really bad back in the 1930-40's. They'd just put orphan's on the "Orphan Trains". They'd stop, and if somebody wanted a kid, they could just come get one. Record's were not really kept on these kids, so recent Genealogist's trying to find them, can't. Most were used a farm labor, and never received an education or even got a Soc. Sec. number. Some had a pretty descent life & realized who they were. Most didn't remember where they even came from or who their real parents were.
I like this Sheriff, he is not holding anything back!!! You can feel his frustration thru the video!! City is lucky to have him!!!
@Mr. & Mrs. Laraunt So You Would Be Fine With The 14 & 12 Yr. Old If They Broke Into Ur Home& Tried To Shoot U & Ur Family Up??Where The Hell Are Their Parents-- What Were The Parents Doing That They Don't Have Custody Of Their Own Children??You Can Hear In His Voice How Much He Didn't Want This To Happen!!!!What If Someone In That Neighborhood Got Shot By Those Kids Becuz The Police Did Nothing To Stop Them?? This Is An Entirely Sh*try Situation ALL Around & Seriously Causes One To Think, My God, If They Have NO QUALMS SHOOTING AT POLICE AT 14 & 12 YRS. OLD, WHAT IN GOD'S GREEN EARTH WILL THEY BE WILLING TO DO WHEN THEY ARE OLDER??THANK GOD THEY DIDN'T GET A CHANCE TO SHOOT UP THE FAMILY THAT LIVES AT THAT HOUSE!!!!MAY GOD PLEASE PUT A HEDGE OF PROTECTION AROUND ALL CHILDREN & POLICE & FIRST RESPONDERS!!!!MAY GOD BLESS ALL, MAY WE STAND DTRONG TOGETHER IN FAITH WWG1WGA PRAYERSNLUV 👼👼✝️✝️
@@wendyladybug355laurie4 dont worry when you people drag us into ww3 AND ACTUALLY NEED HELP, We'll be sure to send our tots and pears, I mean thoughts and prayers.
@Mr. & Mrs. Laraunt it's your culture!
imagine thinking ur in gta5 and u get shot 7 times lmao
How come cops are fearful for their lives when encountering unarmed black kids so much so they end up killing them. Now here they are faced with armed white kids shooting at them and are able to resolve the situation without killing them. Am happy the kids weren't killed but must point out if they were black the cops would have flattened that house with bullets and dragging out bullet riddled bodies and then saying they had no choice but to take such measures to resolve the situation.
How the hell do police get called to a place 300 times and not do something about it
because generally they don't care to do their job.
@@embarrassedcap says someone who has no idea what they are talking about
@@ToxicNova5 oh, do I know you, hun? I don’t believe I do.
@@ToxicNova5 says the 300 calls but no investigation 💩🤭
U must be a 🐷, i mean a 👮♀️who dont do your job either. A thot will side with a thot
A thief will side with a kleptomaniac
Ect. Ect.
Quit showing your hand🤲👋👐🖐
Even Without pics WE SEE YALL🦲🥓🦳🦱🦰👀👀👀👀👀
Sweetie welcome to the urban communities!!!!!!!!!!
Seems like you should have been looking into it's history long before today.
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Exactly. 300+ calls last year alone?! What have they been waiting for...CHRISTMAS???!!!
They may have been, but politics may have gotten in the way.
They may be understaffed and are looking for people who be careful with them. These kids took things over board
@CognizantxNight hmm
United States of America - World's richest Third World Country
Stfu
The 3rd world people are America's problem
Hillbilly in the comments haha
When you fkrs target and kill people of all types
Then it becomes everyone's problem
@@Neo-pw4de Can you explain this more? Everyone's problem?
You can say that again
As adults we haven't done a good job of raising our children.
Umm no disrespect but
Understatement of the year!
Boomers are so useless
You wouldn't get much of an argument from most teachers.
As adults we haven't done a good job of voting in elections.
You mean YOUR kids?
I'll tell you how we can fix this problem. We need to reestablish mental health centers that were destroyed during the Regan administration which were destroyed for good reason.
But GOPs dont want more money to help Americans. They just want their tax cuts.
@@Unknown-user7 Oh sure let us all rise up and start a revolution. You go first I will pop a popcorn here to see what happens.
Sad but true.
@@mannylugz5872 GOP spending is only valuable when it benefits their next career moves or the corporate donors. The joys of corrupt capitalism.
Do you mean mental health centers that were destroyed for "no" good reason?
This world is crazy, now we have kids being Bonnie and Clyde's smh
@RED Mercury I never said it wasn't. We are living in the last days.
Not the world its the pathetic humans 99 percent of all humans are garbage and very very few i mean few who arent
The only thing is bonnie and clyde only killed when they had to and largely left innocent people allone.
In certain hoods all over this country.. 12 and 14 year olds have been shooting each other with aks every day for decades.
I seen my name n had to laugh
The kids are facing felony charges, the group home “Aw hell it only houses delinquent children so who cares” that will be the outcome.
That group home should have been investigated years ago and this is another failure in the system. 😠
there has to be abuse going on.
Flat you know what's taking place. Sexual abused and child abused is what taking place in that group home and many more. 😠
That’s born out by the Sheriff’s framing of “can’t handle them.” Children as a thing to be handled as opposed to children to be helped.
And we also know that the police can not shoot to kill even when under fire from multiple assailants but thanks for pointing out the obvious
So are we just pretending they are innocent children? Blame everything on the system with no personal accountability?
It’s crazy right? But if there were two little black kids you already know the rest.....😞
@@ceciliarios3787 I was looking for someone to bring this up, I was wondering why nobody else said that, oh but wait, then I'd be "pulling the race card". I thought about Tamir Rice while watching this. a little black boy around there age holding a toy gun and was shot and killed. I hope police in the future have the same amount of restraint while dealing with brown children.
@@ceciliarios3787 there isn't a single source that has released their identities nor discriptions. Don't play that victim card. We all know who does the school shootings and we all know who does the r wording and the killing, including playing fun games like sucker punch the old white folks. Cute isn't it how innocent a cultural identity likes to pretend they are.
Stereotypes aren't just there for when they suit you, sweetheart. Bless your soul.
@@praisesol2740 they were white kids. It's been released
@@truthonly- drop a link
That group home needs to be shut down and whoever runs it needs to be held accountable for this incident.
Yes
Sure there may be problems at the group home but what about personal responsibility...By the time you are 12 years old you can make decisions and know the difference between right and wrong...
@@AlzWorld57 yeah they decided that it was better to arm themselves rather than go back!
Don't blame it on the group home. They can't fix the problem. Blame it on the kids race and their parents. The group home can't fix the worlds problems.
@@armandoreyes2750 hey pal your ignorance is showing!
That group home must be something awful for those kids to do something like that to avoid going back. The police should investigate the home to see why they didn't want to return.
“Should” nobody cares
If they had coin, they'd have different options.
The group home had to be hell for these children and all the others there!
Group homes are a nuisance
@Roman deStreets this is sarcasm right?
Making assumptions has to be hell for these children and all the others there!
Maybe it's just the kids??!!
@@dianadundidit5343 And maybe it's not! I won't post anything else about these kids, until they explain what is going on! And then, either I will be right or I will be totally wrong and will remove the comment!
Rice Tamir a 12 ye old was playing with a toy gun, police was called... within seconds not minutes Tamir was shot dead by the police. Two kids 12,14yrs old with assault rifles, in a gun fight with police...are arrested...taken alive.
If the were black they would be dead
The girl got shot twice so I don’t get what you mean by that and also tamir rice had a hoodie on and a realistic gun and was pointing it and people so the cops had no choice
@@yeetthelizard4307 he was not pointing a gun at anyone when the cops arrived. He was alone in the park and executed on sight. There is a video of the shooting
Police in Tamir Rice shooting used poor tactics based upon the information they had prior to arriving. The Audio released from them also was very telling to their mindset.
Forget Juvenile Justice, what did their parents do to these children before they were taken away?
If the kid is in juvenile detention they broke a law (the girl has an extensive criminal history).
Probably not much. The number one reason CPS used to take children was for parents testing positive for marijuana...sometimes they even make up accusations to take the children so they can get their funding
diane Baker, state raised children end up the worst people 9 times out of 10. Better to leave them with their parents.
That’s an important question but let’s not lose perspective on the situation:
-These kids were at the group home when they committed this crime, not with their parents.
-These kids were at the group home when they got ahold of firearms, not with their parents.
-The group home has needed police response 300 times!?
You can’t blame that all on the parents, regardless, not even the kids. This is a group home which receives funding to do it’s job as well as possible to keep the kids that end up there safe, to try to turn their life around, and to keep society safe from them. They’ve clearly not done a very good job at all. The juvenile justice and CPS systems are riddled with corruption from within and without. If one is going to talk about “welfare druggie parents” they should also look up the hundreds and thousands of cases of foster parents and group homes who have done the most vile stuff to get their check from the state.
@@katiehefner She was not in juvenile detention.
Those group homes are hell. Trust me. But that’s no reason for a shoot out. You should find out just why they didn’t want to go back that bad cause there’s definitely a reason.
Was there a reason, sure. Was it a good one? Doubtful. I grew up in the system, even had my state pay for my college. Lot of times it's just immature kids that think they are "gangsta", simple as that. Thankfully I grew out of that phase and turned my life around.
@@gamerfortynine Multiple states, as I was shipped to different "residentials" in other states. But this was CT, almost 20 years ago now.
Could be bullied, ab*sed, physically assa**ted...
@@dylanh4657 kids 15-20 don't make very good decisions sometimes. They build crap up in their heads, get super emotional, think being a grown up is being a badass.
@@kingpest13 And unfortunately, we've been immersed into a culture where being 'badass' is now what a lot of kids aspire to be. look at all the movies and TV that emphasize violence as the solution to everything. We even had a president who supported that idea. The U.S.A. is going down the tubes, fast.
I was a homeless child in the 70s. The kids who ran from foster care had the most horrific stories. I made up my mind, I'll catch a charge and go to juvie first.😐 this sounds like desperation...😔🌺
I get it.. serving 2 lesser of evil they rather go to jail then to go back to turmoil etc sad😪
I was a foster kid too it is really bad I was severely abused in alot of them.
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I'm sure a deep investigation will uncover some very disturbing things It is sad a child should have to go through the foster care process. Every child should know love and security, bad things happen when they don't....
@42Zero_Pizzaman_Tampa No it's videogames and Hollywood and its violence culture on the screens. And racist attitude from people like you.
Investigate this group home, arrest the proprietor and withold further funding.
Sure, first accidently kill the parents, because you raided the wrong house again , then when the kids fell like revenge, that is natural.
It almost took the loss of life to investigate " The system "
There has been plenty of ignored loss of life before this point.
Which is ridiculous. I'd think that the sheriff having to go that one foster home over 300 times in a single year would raise a red flag in the system that something was wrong.
It's definitely a joke. 😠
The "system" is fed by horrible parents.
And they will find nothing wrong with it.
There can be no keener revelation of a society's soul than the way in which it treats its children. ~Nelson Mandela
F Nelson mandela
Yea.. black children
Nelson Mandela blew up hundreds of people including children wtf...
sick burn for the parents of these children.
@@rooster260 lmao wtf are you talking about hes all about peace
And Tamir Rice didn't even have a real gun...did they try to negotiate with him? No, they got out the car and opened fire without saying a word...
ur so dumb lol
No bs.
It's obvious they don't care about colored people. They blatantly put it in our face
Peyton Ham.....white kid with fake gun. I can go on and on with the list. We don't see these cases because it doesn't fit their narrative of keeping that division and feeling of victimhood they want. Sorry that narrative is false. Except you are right about them trying to throw it in our faces. The media is the gov pawns and they show us whatever the gov wants us to believe. Whenever you get a certain message from media always look into it yourself.
Also hard to compare someone that was out in the open to people that are barricaded in a house. Of course they have to negotiate
You are right they just walked up to him and shoot him
why are we more concerned about the gun used than whats going on for kids this young to do these crimes? forget the guns, there is something else that caused this
Because nobody cares if kids are able to get a gun. Guns are too cool to not have and so everyone (except minorities) should get a gun, even if they have homicidal tendencies.
They only briefly mentioned the guns. You're so scared that your guns will be taken away that you can't concentrate. Try watching it again.
@@mizzury54 everyone is justified for their fear that guns will be taken away
Sure, first accidently kill the parents, because you raided the wrong house again , then when the kids fell like revenge, that is natural.
Tamir Rice
Those kids knew right from wrong.
Yep, they wanted out of the fosters care system. They would rather be locked up. Let that sink in..
Where did they get guns from?
Those kids knew they had a choice between going back to abuse or go down fighting. The fact that they chose to go down fighting is a major indicator that the home and the state massively failed them. These are CHILDREN, do you truly believe they truly knew what they were doing, do you truly believe this wasn't a decision based on desperation.
@@marykinuthia6067 watch the video before commenting and you will find out.
@@marykinuthia6067 lol people like you so stupid hahahahah
The stories I've heard about them group homes and the things that are happening to kids there are just horrible to say the least. Get those kids some help please and investigate that group home asap!!!
As bad as the 'group home' may be, it's within a culture which aggrandizes gun toting criminals. TX NRA Right Wingers wants military weapons for everyone, as many as they want, and they can carry loaded weapons in public. Guns are gods for a third of Americans.
@Atomic Dawg00 Your ignorant.
@Atomic Dawg00 the parents are also kids in group homes.
I actually don’t blame the juvenile program I blame the unfit parents who had these juvenile.
Sure sure let's just pretend systemic issues don't exist and pass the buck instead.
certainly some truth to that statement
@@ardentdrops funny you should mention that
Blame both = equally
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After quarantine lift, I still be living like a hermit crab, f this!
My plan exactly :) Stay safe and prosper!
I was living like hermit before the quarantine lol
Not much of a life that your living bud
Same
I've lived like that before quarantine, and still do. S*it's only going to get worse with the way things are going.
We need to stop throwing our children away like they are trash! They are our future. I think the police did very well here.
Everyone went home. But that home they came from must be investigated!
You get safest (sanest) response today❤
Yes your right they are our future that's why they are being brought up like this this is the people they want in charge of our country don't believe me Jesus said do not fear for me fear for your children
Well said
They only care about children in the womb, once they're born they're expendable and a "burden" on society.
It's a failed system.
1) Parents have no right upbringing at home. "Because parents are both out working and, many cases are just babies having babies" to benefit from welfare and social securities benefits.
2) some of these homes take the grants but not really having adequate staff and follow up programs.
A) you're in a program 3 call out you going in.
B) residents of these homes need to have a guidance rules in house treatment. Some don't have these to offered but yet they get the grants.
3) To a close. The American Social system its a failure. Since able bodies are willing to have off springs for social welfare benefits instead of getting to work. a) If you are mentally capable to bared child yiur able to ho to work and raise a child unfortunately families morals have all being washed out down the toilets. Parents real parents can not discipline a child because they be in jail same in schools. Hate that this happened but? Could be avoided if law will not interfere with the families rights to bring up a child. Unfortunately society has created that parents need to go to work because one man can not support a family (bigger homes, bigger cars, RV's etc....all of which bought with loans. Fact is that the working class will always stay a working class while the industries gets reaches and prices are up forcing the families whom have no controls over expenditures to work more while the richess classes get richer and the working class stays the same digging deeper in to finances. The family starts at home where once was a root, anchor. Now there's no anchors at home their away working leaving the young at home alone. These is my own personal opinion hope that may not offend anybody but if it's really family matters? Save for what you want pay in full and stay one at home up bringing a child right. However, parenting laws need to be scrutinize too, not taking that parents rights away.
This is what happens when you place children in neglectful hands 🤷🏻♂️
Really? If these were black kids I'm not sure this display of understanding would even exist.
It shouldn't have went this far, adults don't listen to kids. These group homes are hell for kids.
If the girl survives she should be sent to an adult prison for a couple years. Since she wants to act like an adult she should be punished like an adult. Absolutely unacceptable & reckless behavior.
Both are currently facing armed robbery and countless charges of attempted murder of a law enforcement officer
I'm confused by your suggestion.
They Should be sent to a "youth prison" that's high security(most likely will).
Not sure what sending a child to mix with adult criminals will help unless your suggesting some kind of harm come to them...
THIS is the most American story I’ve heard in a while
We need more Guns, no Big deal🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@gali7202 we do.
@@Howdypartner69420 sure you do...you need something to make up for your ...um...SHORTCOMINGS...if you catch my drift
@@powderedtoastfacekillah734 are you saying i don’t coom a lot? I can fill up at least 3 shot glasses.
Yeah, believe wonder, I live next door and I had to get flood insurance because of his blasts.
For once I truly feel awful for the shooters. Can't imagine what version of hell on earth they were living to make children think that this was their best option. Terrible.
Maybe it's not "hell on earth" at all but these kids just didn't like being told what to do. Jumping to conclusions does not help. A through investigation of why they left is a good start.
@@357Addict The group home had over 300 calls to police in a year. Yes it is hell on earth.
This is how it is for almost all of our most violent criminals. Walk a mile in someone’s shoes, it doesn’t justify what people do but some of these people have truly been through hell. In this case I can’t imagine what someone has seen or been through in 12 short years to make them do something like this.
@@357Addict So they started shooting deputies just because they “didn’t like being told what to do” is this seriously what you’re going with here or have I misunderstood in that case I apologize
@@kaynines5996 exactly, these are inexperienced young kids.
First off how did the get access to the firearms, and second is I wonder was happened to them in foster care system for them to resort to such extreme measures?
Florida foster care system must be super fucced up.. I don’t think any foster care system is perfect.. but imagine Florida being the worst.. horrible people in these places.. i feel bad for the kids.. they were in the hunger games literally..
I'm more concerned with the fact that this seems to be happening every single day during hearings for an ATF director who wants to repeal the 2nd amendment
Um they stole them baby shrimps in pants, did you listen to video at all?
In the news clip it tell you they got the guns when they broke in the house
This is exactly what I was thinking, if you’re going to own this weapons at home invest in a safe
All these tragic stories have this among other in common...
Family structures..
Mothers and Fathers not present.
And the active destruction of the family unit.
These things have real consequences.
Yup and 99 percent are In USA where there is so many guns you could find them in almost any home
@Néca-estel if it isn’t a gun it’s something else. It’ll be a self destructive life of drugs or what ever. Taking the gun away isn’t gonna stop motivation to pick up the gun. It’s the rot cause that needs to be fixed, not the outcome.
Do you have a solution on restoring family structures and units in America?
Nėca Estel> You ain't winning that argument here! It's like trying to convince a polar bear it's snowing in a heatwave!🤭
U can thank the Demonrats/Leftists for that!!!
These kids probably have been repeated abuse by many people in the system and that lead them to act like this. This is very sad. Many groups home and foster homes who's supposed to take good care of these children ended up being the one that abuse them.
Yeah they were most likely abused/mistreated every step of the way. Of course they ended up in the group home somehow - probably through delinquency (and lack of parenting), which is to say they already weren't the sweetest apples in the bunch.
You don't know their story so let's not make assumptions to try to justify their actions. There have Ben thousands abused and they never felt the need to break into someone's home and shoot at other people
Maybe in the 300 incidents at the home.. just one person could have figured out... Hey maybe we need to try something different with these kids.
But it's easier to say, it's social services fault we had to shoot these kids..
I'd say it's everyone's fault these kids are a product of modern society.
A epidemic of selfishness and arrogant behavior.. but that's not new the world has always been crazy it's just easier to see the daily madness now...
Why try to justify their actions tho? You don't know anything about them.
/kids.
Ok so when were they ever going to check on the kids in that facility since it got ova 300 calls last year alone!?!?
And when are they going to charge the legal gun owner with gross negligence? Could afford an ak-47, but couldn't afford to properly store them in a gun safe?
Oh wait, this is America. The erroneous view of the 2nd amendment as a personal right to bear arms against criminals is so stupid. Thanks NRA!
That's literally almost every day
@@OberynTheRedViper I wudnt blame the gun onwers for the storage of the guns if they're not illegally owned but the Kidz were the main situation we all need to worri about rather than lose sight of the problem.... there's a problem at the facility if Kidz rather shot it out before going back.... that's my only interest...
@@fatceaserdagreat241 what if... just maybe... home owners in america didn't find it necessary to leave ak47's laying in plain sight in their homes?
@@bmxscape that's not my position to judge them on home defense since they live in Wonderful ole FLORIDA where they carry ak's everywhere and shot up concerts...so yea there might be a gud enough reason to protect yourself and your family....
The better question is how did a young child like that know how to load an/or fire that weapon?
AK-47's don't shoot themselves!
of course they dooo come on man
im just wondering if the weapons were in the house they broke into if so and not locked away the owners could catch some flak
There's a ton of videos right here on TH-cam that teach you how to do so. I'm sure Google would pull up plenty of blogs with the same info.
They didn’t that’s why the police were unharmed
@@garywillingham3644- I don't think burglars need to break in if a home isn't secured.
Those kids need to be tried as adults.
Absolutely ZERO leniency in sentencing if found guilty.
Also,. Another reason for people to take the personal responsibility of owning large gun safe and store their unattended firearms.
Sure, first accidently kill the parents, because you raided the wrong house again , then when the kids fell like revenge, that is natural.
The sign of the times we're living in...no words for this one.
Tbh im sure this sort of thing has happened before, probably just didn't get coverage.
I bet this happens like once every 10 years or so.
Just now days people are extra sensitive and like to watch dramatic things. 🙄
VIDEO GAMES
Boulder Colorado ring a bell? This is nothing new.
imagine thinking ur in gta5 and u get shot 7 times lmao
This is a Sad situation ' what they did is diff. Wrong , but they are kids no telling what dramatic events they bn thru in their lives or what their mind set bn going thru ' the group home & child protected system is to blame also!!
Those children were doomed from the start. Running away from foster care or group home
It was probably hell there
So sad for kids to turn to that.
Only imagine what is about to be revealed after investigation.
Prayers.
@dabe Vautista not in a group home you dont. So good job bud. Now we know where your simple mind stands.
@dabe Vautista there’s empirical evidence that neither of those cause violent tendencies
Most likely fake.
Violence in the homes they are being sent to, look into that and the people sending them there!
Well done deputies. Absolutely agree with the sheriff. The juvenile justice system is totally broken.
There are more than good reasons to sponsor a group home. Our heart goes out to those who do so for good and wholesome reasons.
I thought we'd actually get a new year, but it looks like 2020 is the gift that keeps giving.
Libs are the problem. Nothing will get better till they die.
@@bethkrager6529 what a monstrous thing to say. I'm sure you only say it for attention, and for that, I am sorry you are so messed up. May you get the help that you so obviously need. X
@@bethkrager6529 do you support abortion?
@@misssummersalt herman Munster in a dress
@@bethkrager6529 I found the next Mass shooter.
So it's everybody's fault but the kids, really
So we know they aren't blk
I mean, here’s a speculation. Note that I have zero information on the kids life’s. BUT Imagine having it so bad that you’d rather possibly commit suicide by cop than stay alive. Or maybe getting in a gun battle because you’d rather go to jail than stay in foster care? Who knows. Certainly though there must be some sort of mental/traumatic/abusive issue here.
@@treterestrial16 they sure aren't black. Only whites can use the mental excuse
@@chucklehead2932 idiot its not racial tension. Its the truth. This country created the racial tension.
@@sixteen.candles.4644 Still racial tension because he brought it up.
Guarantee the kids have been under psychiatric 'care' including mind-altering drugs for years.
Nobody believes the government kidnaps most of the missing children
And you would be wrong
Facts
@@robertttttt716 you disagree they havnt been on mood altering/mind altering prescription chemicals
high chance, they may have lost their souls by such treatments, and find a soulless way to demand society to bring them back.
i know what you are talking about, i know two friends wasted under psychiatric care thanks to their parents
I'd rather die than be in a group home again. Society failed those children not the other way around.
@A.G. Slutburger they did what they felt they had to do to escape their reality.
@@Thizzamajig You just can't make a group home a nice place. It's where kids go after everyone in their lives have given up on them. No matter how nice you make it, kids are always going to want to get out of there, especially the ones with serious behavioral issues. It's just like being in jail. I'm not quick to blame the staff, the police, or anyone else.
Many of those children in "group homes" have been through hell, came from bad family situations to begin with, have some special problems, mentally or physically, or have been abused. Some investigating of the system, and situation needs to happen.
Speaking from experience I absolutely agree with you
For real no guidance whatsoever these kids had no chance lost ever since they came out the womb they had no chance at all and we don't know what happened behind closed doors but we could only assume he grew up in the toxic household and from there we don't know but it's sad that they took it this far 12 13 years old with that much hatred already that's something wrong right there using aks n sh!t
Many people shouldn't be having kids in the first place. You know the freedom of choice and speech and movement are wonderful things. But in the hands of bad people absolutely wreck society. Freedom is a responsibility, and too many people lack in the responsibility department. And then use freedom as their shield.
Yes we have been through hell. My entire childhood stolen . Around violent criminals and sexual predators. Even though I wasnt raised with parents or have any family and my adoptive family threw me away in there to be abused. I will rise up and be the front line when the time comes
We are fkn ruthless and know despair, we know abuse we know what this system is and has failed in.
We lived that hell and know how to bring hell to others if we want to. I'm still a good kid with a good heart. But I've had it with this failed system. I am now the systems worst nightmare . You free to suppress me . Tired to label me all sorts of false labels. Abused the crap out of us. We are the children that will rise ,we are the fearless children that already bucked the system , we are the misfits that will rise and lead when no one else will because we KNOW how broken it is and what is at stake. We will rise
@@xXxGordO241xXx yes I feel like that in my post. It's upset me a lot again I loved what they have. I also want to go in there and talk to these kids . I would have walked in there vested up no weapon and tried. I know where they came from. I know. Because I'm from the same place. I want to push the anger towards that system down and help . The anger is really strong towards it, I feel these kids and feel for them. These kids are going to help lead your revolution realise that we were raised in a place where we were beaten down for ever even questioning authority, we are literally children of a tyrannical system and know the signs we know what this is. I'm just trying to subside my inner revolutionary because the better half of me wants to walk right in there and talk to these kids. I'm still recovering at 35 from what happened to myself. But I know I can help. Don't give up on those kids because when the time comes they can be your greatest allies or worst enemies. Im surprised how upset this made me and is good cops haven't killed them at least. This took everything from me my childhood gone, abused so much. Locked in concrete bunkers.. tested in.. this made me a child of darkness. that can terrify the crap out of anyone if I want to. also made the child of light that has been there and wants to make a positive difference in this world.
Kudos to that Sheriff's dept for handling the situation in a normal manner.
Those colonizer nuggets are THUGS........
Sure, first accidently kill the parents, because you raided the wrong house again , then when the kids fell like revenge, that is natural.
@@paulleard8349
Huh?
300 times called in, sounds to me like the cops let the kids down everyone let those kids down
they report the cases to department of child services ... they let the kids down. the cops are the middle men in child neglect cases. they need permission to remove the children from the home.
Child and family services let the kids down...their parents let the kids down...their relatives let the kids down... the cops are keepers of the peace not the kids parents, relatives, or child and family mental health councelors. The cops are literally stuck in the middle but since they are easy to see they get the blame? Pathetic.
@Roman deStreets “these are little rejects that should be eliminated” you clearly have no humanity in this statement so I will come to the conclusion that you’re either a troll or a heartless person that doesn’t have concern over the conditions , mental health factors and automatically comes to the decision to put children to death
The police responds to call, the fault is with the parents, group home supervisors and the social workers who oversee the placement of these children.
I'm trying to give people even government agencies the benefit of the doubt and I will say maybe it's just so many kids in the system they can barely handle it. But then again there is child human trafficking going on and I've heard of some horror stories from years back involving prominent people and agencies of the like child protective Services. I don't advocate violence killing or abortion but it makes you wonder if most of these kids aren't better off Dead. God help us because we need it.
Please lock up your guns in a secure location. These kids could have left grieving families.
LOL most people buying guns took a 4 hour class on how to use them they didn't get a class on how to secure it properly.
The most common reply you'll get is "if they're locked up, I can't get to it fast enough when I need it."
These guns WERE IN A SECURE LOCATION...INSIDE ANOTHER PERSON'S LOCKED HOME! These kids illegally BROKE IN 🙄. And, no, (as sad as it is) there are no "grieving families" these kids could have left behind...they lived in a group home for foster children. They're wards of the state with no parents/family. This is all discussed in the news story though.
I'm just honestly shocked & appalled at how many people are trying to place 'blame' on the homeowners. They're victims of a home invasion. Everyone needs to STOP blaming guns for everything & start blaming the people responsible for committing these criminal acts!
@@erayburn6354 Yah if the guns were secured properly they wouldn't have been able to get them so yah 100% the home owners fault.
@@erayburn6354 The grieving families that I was referring to are those of the deputies if one had died. Securing guns even within your home can help avoid guns being stolen with home invasions, grandkids getting ahold of them, kids taking them to school. A responsible gun owner knows the danger of guns, a kid is lacking in judgement. I do feel sorry for these kids, but I would feel worse if an officer had died and their kids were left without a parent.
"Florida Kid" is the new "Florida Man"
These are the "Florida man" in the making!!
Classy.
@@theorycreative But it's true soooo...... 🤷🏼♀️
And because lawlessness shall abound, the love of many will grow cold.
Yep.
Does that mean we need law or we'll grow heartless?
Lord Jesus what in the world. This is so sad completely sad. My God how sad is this. 🙏🏽
You think this is sad. It’s nothing compared to Chicago or Baltimore.
AMEN
That's exactly what I said ...exactly
Lol your fictional character had nothing to with this. And he has never had anything to with life on earth. Smfh at you fools.
@@headflat449 we get it, you hate god and support the devil
“Criminal Justice System” is failing,
parents need to parent,
maybe don't ban abortions then.
They were in a group home… what parents?
@@theorycreative that’s the point
@@realrareap2420 smooth brain moment
What parents? If they were in a group home that means they were orphans. This shows how terrible foster care is that children would rather die in a police shooting than live in an orphanage. Idiots really wanna ban abortions and make kids live in this kind of environment where they would rather be dead anyhow.
Tragic but so true when you open fire on law enforcement you are no longer a juvie nor child , you have entered the adult world of cops and robbers & killers.
FACTS
The new generation of peaceful tourists.
Wonder where they learned it 😉
Damn this is INSANE!!! What’s going on at that group home?
I could make a list of possibilities but it would probably get me banned from TH-cam. I have worked at group homes, and other residential facilities for children. The staff is usually entry level people who learn bad habits and poor child care skills so unless a child is favored they can become a scapegoat, a narcissistic target, or simply abused in multiple ways.
--It took great courage for these kids to run because if they are brought back to the same place things are just going to get worse for them.
imagine thinking ur in gta5 and u get shot 7 times lmao
@@toscatattertail9813 yea something if definitely up at that group home
what's going on in Florida by far the craziest state!!
@@hand2handmc for real
What the heck is going on in Florida? It’s been like a war zone over the past week.
Republican leadership at its finest.
@@selanryn5849 😐 what about the race war in Chicago?
@@selanryn5849 it has nothing to do with politics. Stop being so dumb it has to do with a bad foster care system smh you need help
@@selanryn5849 Chicago, LA, NY, Seattle, SF, Portland, Michigan, Minnesota... any of those place have anything in common, Einstein?
Keep on eating yourselves while the world watches.
Liberal sections only.
The so called group home should be looked at closely if this is what the result of living there is.
True, they should close down and throw the thieving cop killers out on the street, oh yes, they still are wonderful specimens of society because they didn't manage their objective to kill cops,
@@kathylarson8876 What is your stance on guns?
@@one-day-at-a-time4134 believe in the 2nd amendment, it looks to me that the democrat with the strongest gun laws have the highest crime rates
@@kathylarson8876 So you're angry that someone got shot at but you're not angry that children can so easily obtain guns to kill each other? Your priorities are upside down.
@@one-day-at-a-time4134 I guess unlike you, I see the fault in the persons shooting each other, seems ironic that democratic cities that hate cops have the most crime, I suppose it would be to your liking than only 'children', young drug peddling thugs would have guns, and no I am angry only when they shoot a cop or a real child, not another thug, and am just glad I live in a Republican state
The kids got exactly what they asked for. There is NO excuse for that behavior.
when are people going to realize that some are just born to do stuff like this,stop blamming and making excuses for them its not lack of family,mental health resources-if anything blame alcohol and drugs for fetal alcohol syndromes and low iqs being created....
Don't judge them until you know what they had gone through that made them desperate enough to run away. If you were 12 and 14 and in the hands of people who was mentally/emotionally/physically/psychologically and possibly sexually abusing you or a younger child and saw no other way out but to do anything you could to keep from being send back...would you say the same thing???
@@toscatattertail9813 oh really !!
@@grrlinduluth Lol yeah the kids were born to go shoot an ak at cops. Why don't you stop blaming individuals (in this instance literal kids lmao) and instead the systems and environments that propagate and help lead to situations such as what happened here.
@@medabot4003 goFoff,sorry i aint a sheep.its called time to clean the gene pool..
Where were the parents/guardians?? 🤷♀️ It’s not just a failed system, it’s a failed parental system that creates a horrible cycle.
Did you not hear the story? These are children in the system, orphans, children removed from homes, etc. They ran away from a group home that they were placed in. They were running from the guardians.
They have no parents that's why they're in the group home most likely
I hate people that just pop off in the comment section before they find out what really happened.
The biggest issue these days is so many people bringing children into this world and not raising them, just plain irresponsible people.
@@c.w.6794
Like people dumping their kids over walls and leaving them in the desert
This is so sad. Our society is falling apart, there’s too much sadness and struggle. It doesn’t have to be this way. We can do so much better than what we are doing in America
We can do better ? Honey you’re already in hell nobody in America cares
The bottom half of our society is completely falling apart. There is also a growing permanent underclass. Those people will become the American version of the untouchables.
@@auroramothergoddess - Explain Kathy.
... and all it took was 9 months of sheltering in place.
We can do better, but better is just too much for most people to bother with when they finally have their little comfort zone to themselves. Literally nobody cares what hardship you face as long as things are going OK for them, its been like this before any lockdowns. Communities and families aren't in anymore, its all about individualism, being individually enslaved to $$$.
At age 12 and 14, they knew right from wrong
Am glad officers weren't hurt.🙏
Don't judge their actions until you know their history. Kids don't run from places they are being treated fairly and with kindness.
So at what age do you magically get that ability huh?
@@RP-vi8fx when one has responsible parents, that educate their kids right is no brainer!
@@yolandaneely6431 you do realize these kids were from a group home right...
@@RP-vi8fx yes however, the home has principals
And the kids are thought values, the saddest think is that
These kids came too late in life to benefit
From it.
Those little thugs need jail time
You know, I can’t imagine what this kids are going through. It says a lot when children believe that their only way out from whatever situation they are in is by shooting at officers. Clearly it’s a cry for help. Foster homes are not great. What sucks even more is how children are put into homes where they are being abused and nothing is done about it, even after being called to someone’s attention.
i agree
still not a reason to pull guns out on officers and attempt to murder them. seems like they want to go the opposite way (downhill) and go to jail instead of doing their decade or two in a foster home with no problems.
I'm 100% pro gun, but, what kind irresponsible gun owner leaves their long guns unsecured while they aren't home?
Maybe he just hid it in a closet or something so his kids couldn't get it them and while the 2 people that broke in his house just happened to find it but I have a question do u have to put your forearm in a gun safe while in your house cuz I know in a car there is like a certain way you have to transport it or dose it very whatever state u go to?
@@damny0utoobe Buddy...this house did have guns; that's where the kids got them.
So...your plan didn't work out, did it?
@@damny0utoobe You have an arsenal of guns but no people to fire them. Do guns fire by themselves?
They never said the firearms weren't in s safe. And for the record, many big box store safes are not as secure as you might think. So if these kids had a crow bar, they probably could of broke into the safe and got the guns. Although I will say this person who owned this home could of invested into a ul tl-30 which would be a difficult and time consuming safe to break into.
@@scottmac-cheeserae4531 Douchy response.
All guns should be kept in a strong metal cabinet like a safe.
Phuck you
Or behind a brick wall under lock and key, and an alarm system or something....oh wait...
@@areaves8574 NO NO NO They should be at the sheriffs office where you can check them out when they want you to
@@garywillingham3644 Lol come and take them then tough guy.
Yah how are you gonna get to that strong metal cabinet in the middle of the night to "Defend yourself" BAHAH
Got to sleep with it under your pillow so it goes off and saves the world some trouble.
Some people think this is new but the reality is that it’s been like this for decades either in or outside the US.
tf u talkin about? stupid
just inside the US buddy.... dont fool urself
Lots of foster kids are placed in group homes when they need to be in secured facilities. It’s a pretty messed up situation.
I was one. I feel lucky. I really do. Have my own family now.
@@joshualuntsford Glad you got out of there, capable of raising a family.
@@joshualuntsford PRAYERSNLUV WWG1WGA 👼👼✝️✝️
Actually foster children do not belong in the juvenile justice system. Most were dealt an awful upbringing that resulted in them not being able to remain in their home...
@@missb2182 ACTUALLY some do. Sometimes there are just bad kids and even when given resources like therapy and medication it doesn’t help them. Foster kids are never just placed in DJJ they are leveled up to secured foster homes/group facilities until they commit crimes. I’m a CPS SOCIAL WORKER. Thanks for coming to my Ted talk.
The facts the kids would do all that just to jot go back is sad enough
Try them as “Adults”....
They’re NOT playing kids games anymore... so they need “adult” consequences... smdh
I agree .
I disagree
Dont take me wrong I am in no way condoning their actions they are still kids, violent kids?? obviously !!!!! to be the devils advocate though I doubt they TRUELY had any idea what the real consequences were/are to what they were doing. There is more to this than meets the eye. Its may be part of the issue but I dont think it was entirely "well it was a terrible group/ foster home" There is more to this and The Flordia AG needs to be on this like ants on sugar to put it politely.
12 and 14... come from a messed up foster home environment... nah. They need to be rehabilitated.
These children clearly need help! You can not possibly have any idea what they have been through!
Trying these children as adults will not benefit the children, the community, nor anyone involved in this situation!
I understand that you feel that their actions are adult and they therefore deserve adult consequences, but I believe that especially since no one was killed or seriously injured besides one of the shooters, it makes FAR MORE sense to focus on meeting the unmet needs of these youth that this incident clearly exposes!
This was not planned & premeditated, the children found those weapons in the house!
Another important question I didn't hear anyone mention is: why weren't those weapons stored responsibly? The AK-47 at the very least should have been very securely locked up! That is NOT a weapon of self-defense!
If punishment & consequences were actually effective with these children, it's unlikely this event would've happened to begin with. It's clear that there is a much more serious & deeper situation going on here which needs to be addressed!
This is absolutely NOT normal or typical behavior for children! Have you no empathy for the level of horrific events that these children must have endured to make them react in this way?!
We KNOW that sentencing them to spend the rest of their youth and young adult years in prison has NO possibility for preparing them to become law abiding, productive members of society! There's no doubt or question about that. Prison is essentially a very effective "school" which teaches inmates to become true criminals and connects them to the networks which will enable that to happen once they are released.
Only by taking into account their age and how they have been failed and their basic needs unmet, do we have the possibility to devise an effective treatment that has any possibility of giving these youth the tools, resources & support they require to build productive and successful lives as adults!
Shot at the police but yet live to tell their story.....wow
Obviously they were doing something to those kids who felt like that was the only way out:(
So much for social workers going to the scene, in this case the social workers that are case workers might be part of the problem.
no, just make sure that we throw as many parents in prison as possible to put even more kids into foster care. Straining the system more will defiantly help.
People need to stop having kids they can’t raise
@@auroramothergoddess Yes. And the government needs to stop paying more benefits for every child born out of wedlock and without a man to help raise the kids.
Fatherless homes are a huge problem.
@@JunkMailBoxStuff better yet mandated vasectomys for all the poor men and boys and mandated tubes tied for poor women and girls ....but oh wait what’s best for society isn’t part of the plan ...the government knows what they’re doing it’s all orchestrated and your just a puppet in their scheme
@@auroramothergoddess No need for that. Planned ParentHOOD is in the poor areas for the murder of their own unborn children. This culture is toxic to their own. If they don't kill you in the womb, they will kill their own later in life.
Sick and disgusting.
My guess is the group home is vastly under funded and under staffed.
"This is something that I have never seen in all my years in law enforcement"....something wrong....every day is a gun shoot 🔫and another one get drop...we don't want no more of that...love your brother's and sister's...
300 cop calls to a group home last year?
Social services *and* the Police Department are responsible for this rampage.
Please explain how the Police are responsible. The Social Services I can understand, but the Police Force can't monitor 24/7.
This is crazy definitely tells you that the system is definitely broken
Definitely.
Uhh the kids are broken. Hi dude. Parents. Heard of them before? Yeah hi
You gotta fight the system
it's not the system that's broken-- it's the sorry parents, crazy @$$ social workers, group home coordinators, and family court judges that are running the system that are broken asf--- they throw these poor kids around worse than animals and fail to keep check on them.. animal shelters are more caring and protective than these people
I just want to make a comment as someone that was in a group home and Foster Care. Those kids have nothing to lose. If they're anything like me they've lost anyone and everything important in they're life. I feel for em. Group homes don't ever do what they say they do. I've never been to one that didn't come with physical abuse or some other form of neglect. Our foster care system needs an entire redesign and nobody talks about it. They just point their finger at the justice system. Don't forget about that kid that was drug out of his bed in the middle of the night and take him somewhere where he didn't know never had a normal life again.
Do you really think the problem is fixable? Like your family abandoned you and you're in the care of the state, how do you possibly make that a nice situation?
@@squarecracker you go off what you know. Some know better than others, some don't know much of anything. You go from foster home to group home to mental heath facilities and shelter, its a cycle, and a crazy one for children to go through just to thrust back into the streets to truly fend for themselves in a world Theyve been essentially kept away from due to rules and such.i was in dhs in oklahoma from barely 7yrs old until i was nearly 15. My first foster home was more abusive than anything id ever experienced. Lost story short i was split up from my brother and sister only to be reunited like 5 years later at an adoptive home to be separated again. They got adopted and i didnt. I was left in the system and told to say goodbye to my brother and sister. I then went place to place destroying everything in my path at like 11 because my entire life had been ripped from. I could and i mean literally write a book about my experience, Possibly several books about the things i personally went through and experienced. Im sure anyone would read it though...
@@OkieBadu I would , my mom went thru something similar as well with her sisters. Nobody to teach u how your choices affect your future, not knowing what the future will b for you because u have no control, yea that gotta gotta a rough experience as a child
The police showed incredible restraint when dealing with these kids & that's admirable. Now can they practise the same principles when encountering adults, as long as they are safe ??
Agreed!!
do you think shooting a kid is easy?
@@kaksidaksi3455 Tamir Rice
There are literally hundreds of videos of cops handling situations like this with adults. Know what you are talking about before you commit.
If they are like this now at a young age, you know they are going to have a life of crime.
Statistically not having parents already makes that highly likely so nothing new here.
Another news article stated this isn't the first time the girl has been in trouble. She was originally sent to a home in another county for stealing puppies and didn't last long in that one as she had burnt the house down and was shipped back to this county.
The pandemic is almost over and the US is getting back to normal.
You’re so right. My first thought when covid goes down open season starts again
....guns more guns and more guns
Stop having kids when you can’t even take care of yourself.
@Marilyn Monroe I agree but you shouldn’t have to say that behind a burner account
thats why I never had any now im 62
See how that chief stands up for his people and gives the full story hes not silent.. thats what makes a good leader.
Damn straight
@Prince Nelson they are White kids he called criminals and thugs.
Maybe Desantis needs to focus on this.
Really? Really?
Interesting how rational men like this can recognize this is a societal problem, but for some reason when they turn 18 that mindset disappears.
Maybe they get tired of getting shot at
Remember Tamir Rice. Rest in peace
That’s said once a week in Florida by the sheriff. I’ve never seen that in over 30 years.
LOL
You right