With all due respect Primetime, you lost me entirely halfway through. Rodgers is a terrible leader and did nothing in any game that we needed him to step up. He is a shell of himself physically regardless of whether most of the rest of the team sucked or coaching blew. He didn’t play well and certainly not close to his career standard. Along with that average play was an immense amount of non accountability, blaming others, excuses, excuses and excuses. Entitled and arrogant with no basis here to be that way. No way in hell should he be back
Rodgers is on another level and he is trying to get the rest of the offense, including the coaches, there. It's like pulling teeth. He should come back next year for continuity.
Rodgers is a cancer on this team. I want him out. That being said, ownership meddling and poor coaching choices are the biggest problems with this franchise. Not sure if the Jets will ever win a championship under this ownership.
Jets need continuity and Rodgers plays well against divisional opponents. He is also operating on another level and is trying to get the rest of team and coaches there.
Amazing how the Jets have done worse with Rodgers as QB than they did with Wilson but Wilson is the one who got the boot and Rodgers is getting pandered to by people who still think he's relevant.
Primetime, the Jets having a terrible culture and Aaron Rodgers needing to go aren't mutually exclusive ideas. As a matter of fact, I think that they are completely related. The only reason that the Jets were interested in Aaron Rodgers in the first place is because they failed to draft and develop a QB of their own-- the product of their terrible culture. When they traded for Rodgers they instantly put unrealistically high expectations on a team that had young talent but no recipe to win based on a successful program. That's part of the reason that I believe that Aaron Rodgers and several of the expensive veterans need to go. The new head coach and GM need to have the opportunity to build their own program. Catering to aging veterans who are coming off of a 5 win season isn't how you build a winning program. Also, Sam Darnold was in his early to mid 20's when the Jets moved on. Aaron Rodgers is in his 40's. Darnold had room to grow. Rodgers is just getting older. Rodgers might have one decent season left, but then what? The Jets would be left scrambling to draft and develop a QB again. If they take this year to build their program, maybe they can set up a young QB to have better success in the future.
Any question of Rodgers leadership ended with him skipping minicamp after missing a season to get high. And it’s very possible he got his head coach fired to protect his buddy. He will be turning 42, and it’s clear the mobility is gone and isn’t coming back. I can’t see any coach worth it, wanting to take that on. Respectfully, I say give it up, the princess is in another castle.
@erikreinhardt7955 It's not his age it's everything else that makes him suck.He has no intangibles that make leaders of men. Between Age 39-45, Tom Brady went to 4 SuperBowl's winning 3 and also threw for 5,316 yds and 43 touchdowns at 44 years old. Despite his greatness he plays like he is just trying to get a starting spot on the team,Aaron Rodgers acts like he owns the club and has been to only 1 SuperBowl in his career.....14yrs ago. Tom Brady is a leader Aaron Rodgers is the complete opposite of a leader.
1981 me too- nine years old then and graying and 52 now. I should have known the mud bowl AFC championship disaster in Miami was gonna be a harbinger of things to come over the next four decades 😂
Hey Kevin I didn't miss one stream you guys had a rough year just like myself and all the other jet fans but will be back watching them next year and hopefully it'll be a different result take it easy great job 👍👍🏈🏈
Appreciate the effort guys. I accidentally became a fan in 2019. I'm from a rugby country but my girl was American and got me hooked . While i curse her for not being from Baltimore or Kansas you guys have been the lone bright spot.
Rodgers is an ultimate leader??? Come on..the ultimate leader doesn’t have body language like that when things don’t go his way (or when he shifts blame after a bad pass)
Happy Birthday PT, wish ing you the best in all your endeavors. Also thanks to you & Tyson for all you do..... my question is how can we find a way to remove Woody from the current Jets equation???.... every time the Jets are even close to sniffing a shot at being a quality team, he butts in & sticks his hand into the mix. Why can't he just let the GM do his job without interfering???..
The three overriding reasons why the Jets were so bad this season in my opinion (which you’d probably agree with) was the extremely horrible coaching all around, the decimation and clear regression of the defense and the inconsistency of the offense. With that said, even if Rodgers wants to come back and play next season for the Jets (which I’m not sure he does) there has to be an absolute plan in place long-term for a quarterback. No idea at this point who that would be as the season just ended but we’ll see. Thanks to you and Tyson for this channel. Happy New Year!
The problem with Rodgers is the offense was just to one dimensional. Teams were able to easily shut it down and make it look almost childish at times. Sure, that's coaching but it's his offense as well. If he comes back, is he willing to follow a different game plan? Thats my biggest question to you.
Im on board with your point of view which is pretty often. I wanted to keep darnold and trade down in that draft and build around him with a good HC/staff. And even now i hope rodgers ends up staying with a good HC, make improvements on roster/defense and try one more year. Otherwise the team will be just like it was after the hype of 2010/11. Go into "rebuild" mode for years because this team perpetually drafts and/or develops poorly. It sucks so much to watch other games and hear names of players ball out that the Jets drafted and gave up on. Sure that always happens with everyone, but seems to happen far more often for this franchise. Rodgers isnt great, but he's def good enough with a GOOD defense and coaching staff. O line is pretty solid, WR core is good enough mostly (if devante stays), RB is set. Defense is the weakness again. But it's the Jets, so they'll find the wrong thing to do. I have zero faith this ownership will do the right thing. If Rodgers isnt back, i wont give much of a crap for future seasons unless they give reason to feel otherwise.... I hate being a fan of this team
Thank god it’s over………this season hurt me the most out of 26 years of being a fan. And I’ve witnessed some bad ones. Always will be a fan tho……to much family memories of going to the game but man I hope things change
Can you believe this is how the AR experiment might end??? Last season was a hard pill to swallow but this one is way worse. I thought worst case was we’d be 9-8 and just miss the playoffs. This was the least enjoyable year I’ve had as a fan of this team. AND NOW we have to hope Woody & the 33rd team don’t f**k this GM/HC search up somehow. I think I hate football. 🛩️💥🔥
Ultimate leader who went to Egypt skipping mandatory minicamp? Your man crush is embarrassing. Bring back Adams? Why? He's slow! Did all his damage against bad defenses. Conklin stinks. Are you rooting for them to suck again?
With all the dumb sh** that Woody says, how the hell does Woody look himself in the mirror?! Like a vampire, he really should have blankets covering them !!
Gruden should be given an opportunity to be interviewed by the Jets, and also Mike McCarthy if the Cowboys cut him loose. I DO NOT WANT another first time HC, former coordinator type.
If we wind up with Rex Ryan as HC, then we as Jets fans will have been gaslighted re: the entire coaching selection and hiring process, with this so-called 33rd Team consultancy as the smoke screen.
Really disliked Woody meddling with Saleh's staff to fire the OC. Leave the staff to the HC and if you're that unhappy then fire them all or just give them one more year to turn it around. So they fired LaFleur and had a lameduck HC that could never draw in any top coaching talent for OC when he can't guarantee them any job security.
This season was the most miserable disappointment of a season of any team i have ever followed in global sports. It was just ulgy, watching Rogers collapse was simply sad. Ill be honest, i didn't watch the last 6 games. It was too much for me.
If they keep rogers Which I doubt .. the new head coach which will Rex Ryan will have to gather the core guys along with rogers to repair the relationship…
If we are talking about repairing relationships, I'd agree to move on. I don't think relationships are broken the way the media portrays it. Everyone is frustrated but I believe it's more at ownership and the problems that have been here long before him
If Rodgers is such a "great leader", then how come it's going around, that if Rodgers comes back on the Jets, then Garrett Wilson wants to be traded ?! It doesn't sound like " leadership material" to me!!
Sounds like you're reading too much made up nonsense lol....curious what your thoughts were on the Jermaine Johnson injury story and what Rodgers did for him....?
We need to bless Todd Monken with the bag and revitalize the offense. This season boiled down to Tyron Smith and Jermaine Johnson. Not Rodgers. But you gotta admit the QBs legs aren’t so good. That’s why you move on.
Not only have you guys not ever talked about a playoff game, but the team has NOT adjusted or changed in any way. The issues are the same year after year. Woody is the only constant over the last 13 years. I hope Rogers comes back let this clown show continue. Rogers is not smart, he is not a leader, he is, has and always will be a self obsessed wanna be philosopher. He's gotten coach after coach after coach fired, he throws everyone around him under the bus the second he gets the chance, he does not take accountability for literally anything, and we aren't even going to mention how he's so old he could be the father of some guys who are playing with him. This team probably hires Flores or Ryan and goes full tap dancing clown show next year.
At the end of the day a rebuild is coming wether fans want to accept it or not. Doesn't matter if Rogers comes back or not you just delay it for a year
But u are making excuses for Rodgers It's sad what has become of jet fans, starstruck for an old GOF who has literally done Nothing for jets organization. He is 41yr old and u still can't move on after a 5win season. Sign Fields, Mack Jones, or trade for Sam Howell as a 1 or 2 yr bridge and start rebuild of this team. Now u scared to move because of qb cadence, u guys wanted Saleh fired mid season
Primetime is the best. He stuck with his qb and stayed positive with Rodgers. Rodgers is a hof qb and wanted to win, but it was difficult to overcome the failures of the jets shortcomings. PT has good vibes.
In my worst nightmare, the Jets weren't even THIS bad This was Murphy's Season. Everything that could have gone wrong did. I wouldn't believe it if I didn't see it
@@mcncheese69next year guys...next year! Remember as bad as we are, no one blew more 4th quarter leads than Us, so with better coaching and some more pieces we will do it
Y’all mad at rodgers it’s the jets fault y’all bums been trash for a decade it’s the culture around that team I guarantee if he leaves he will look way better on another team y’all don’t deserve anything good y’all gonna be trash forever free rodgers 🖕🏾the jets 😂😂
Calling Aaron Rodgers the “ultimate leader” after this season is hysterical
The ultimate leader😂😂😂😂
As a fan of Seinfeld and NYC comedy in general, I am praying the Jets bring AR back!
With all due respect Primetime, you lost me entirely halfway through. Rodgers is a terrible leader and did nothing in any game that we needed him to step up. He is a shell of himself physically regardless of whether most of the rest of the team sucked or coaching blew. He didn’t play well and certainly not close to his career standard. Along with that average play was an immense amount of non accountability, blaming others, excuses, excuses and excuses. Entitled and arrogant with no basis here to be that way. No way in hell should he be back
Sounds more like a personal issue you have with him. Can’t take you seriously. Next
Well said
While you’re not entirely wrong about Rodgers, you might be overstating things a bit…
Amen tired of Rodger’s
Rodgers is on another level and he is trying to get the rest of the offense, including the coaches, there. It's like pulling teeth. He should come back next year for continuity.
Rodgers is a cancer on this team. I want him out. That being said, ownership meddling and poor coaching choices are the biggest problems with this franchise. Not sure if the Jets will ever win a championship under this ownership.
Stick to being a fan. Who cares what you want.
You’re a m0ron, woody is an excellent owner and it’s his right to do what he wants with the team. He knows exactly what he’s doing.
Jets need continuity and Rodgers plays well against divisional opponents.
He is also operating on another level and is trying to get the rest of team and coaches there.
Ultimate leader? How many people are going to lose their jobs with Jets this year? It'll probably be the all time high.
Under Aaron's leadership, the Jets failed to put up 20 PPG. That puts them in the bottom of the third of NFL offensive rankings.
Amazing how the Jets have done worse with Rodgers as QB than they did with Wilson but Wilson is the one who got the boot and Rodgers is getting pandered to by people who still think he's relevant.
Ultimate Leader throws people under the bus? Skips mandatory OTAs for vacation? Lmafao 😂
Primetime, the Jets having a terrible culture and Aaron Rodgers needing to go aren't mutually exclusive ideas. As a matter of fact, I think that they are completely related. The only reason that the Jets were interested in Aaron Rodgers in the first place is because they failed to draft and develop a QB of their own-- the product of their terrible culture. When they traded for Rodgers they instantly put unrealistically high expectations on a team that had young talent but no recipe to win based on a successful program. That's part of the reason that I believe that Aaron Rodgers and several of the expensive veterans need to go. The new head coach and GM need to have the opportunity to build their own program. Catering to aging veterans who are coming off of a 5 win season isn't how you build a winning program. Also, Sam Darnold was in his early to mid 20's when the Jets moved on. Aaron Rodgers is in his 40's. Darnold had room to grow. Rodgers is just getting older. Rodgers might have one decent season left, but then what? The Jets would be left scrambling to draft and develop a QB again. If they take this year to build their program, maybe they can set up a young QB to have better success in the future.
They walked out like if they prove something. Such a bizarre game
Any question of Rodgers leadership ended with him skipping minicamp after missing a season to get high. And it’s very possible he got his head coach fired to protect his buddy. He will be turning 42, and it’s clear the mobility is gone and isn’t coming back. I can’t see any coach worth it, wanting to take that on. Respectfully, I say give it up, the princess is in another castle.
@erikreinhardt7955 It's not his age it's everything else that makes him suck.He has no intangibles that make leaders of men.
Between Age 39-45,
Tom Brady went to 4 SuperBowl's winning 3 and also threw for 5,316 yds and 43 touchdowns at 44 years old. Despite his greatness he plays like he is just trying to get a starting spot on the team,Aaron Rodgers acts like he owns the club and has been to only 1 SuperBowl in his career.....14yrs ago.
Tom Brady is a leader
Aaron Rodgers is the complete opposite of a leader.
We love you Guys PT, you guys pull us Through, I breathe and Die With this team since 1981 and will continue till Im 6 feet under!
1981 me too- nine years old then and graying and 52 now. I should have known the mud bowl AFC championship disaster in Miami was gonna be a harbinger of things to come over the next four decades 😂
Hey Kevin I didn't miss one stream you guys had a rough year just like myself and all the other jet fans but will be back watching them next year and hopefully it'll be a different result take it easy great job 👍👍🏈🏈
Love your loyalty, Primetime, but the AR experience was a failed one. Time to move on
Appreciate the effort guys. I accidentally became a fan in 2019. I'm from a rugby country but my girl was American and got me hooked . While i curse her for not being from Baltimore or Kansas you guys have been the lone bright spot.
Longest season and the most frustrating I can remember. Happy to see the Jets end on a win.
You mentioned Rodgers coming back next season and I felt a strong urge to unsubscribe lol
Lmfao!!
Rodgers is an ultimate leader??? Come on..the ultimate leader doesn’t have body language like that when things don’t go his way (or when he shifts blame after a bad pass)
Primetime… how bout your boy Darnold when it really matters? 😂😂😂
Happy Birthday PT, wish ing you the best in all your endeavors. Also thanks to you & Tyson for all you do.....
my question is how can we find a way to remove Woody from the current Jets equation???.... every time the Jets are even close to sniffing a shot at being a quality team, he butts in & sticks his hand into the mix. Why can't he just let the GM do his job without interfering???..
Thank you PT!!!!🔥🤟🏼🤟🏼
The three overriding reasons why the Jets were so bad this season in my opinion (which you’d probably agree with) was the extremely horrible coaching all around, the decimation and clear regression of the defense and the inconsistency of the offense. With that said, even if Rodgers wants to come back and play next season for the Jets (which I’m not sure he does) there has to be an absolute plan in place long-term for a quarterback. No idea at this point who that would be as the season just ended but we’ll see.
Thanks to you and Tyson for this channel. Happy New Year!
The defense was not bad at all this year, learn football you clown
The problem with Rodgers is the offense was just to one dimensional. Teams were able to easily shut it down and make it look almost childish at times. Sure, that's coaching but it's his offense as well. If he comes back, is he willing to follow a different game plan? Thats my biggest question to you.
AR will only run his ancient McCarthy offense. The league and potential coaches know this.
Im on board with your point of view which is pretty often. I wanted to keep darnold and trade down in that draft and build around him with a good HC/staff. And even now i hope rodgers ends up staying with a good HC, make improvements on roster/defense and try one more year. Otherwise the team will be just like it was after the hype of 2010/11. Go into "rebuild" mode for years because this team perpetually drafts and/or develops poorly. It sucks so much to watch other games and hear names of players ball out that the Jets drafted and gave up on. Sure that always happens with everyone, but seems to happen far more often for this franchise.
Rodgers isnt great, but he's def good enough with a GOOD defense and coaching staff. O line is pretty solid, WR core is good enough mostly (if devante stays), RB is set. Defense is the weakness again. But it's the Jets, so they'll find the wrong thing to do. I have zero faith this ownership will do the right thing. If Rodgers isnt back, i wont give much of a crap for future seasons unless they give reason to feel otherwise.... I hate being a fan of this team
Youre nuts bro arod is cooked
I was pissed when they let Sam darnold go… they should’ve kept building around him
You really think Saleh coaching staff would have helped Sam?
Thank god it’s over………this season hurt me the most out of 26 years of being a fan. And I’ve witnessed some bad ones. Always will be a fan tho……to much family memories of going to the game but man I hope things change
Can you believe this is how the AR experiment might end???
Last season was a hard pill to swallow but this one is way worse.
I thought worst case was we’d be 9-8 and just miss the playoffs.
This was the least enjoyable year I’ve had as a fan of this team.
AND NOW we have to hope Woody & the 33rd team don’t f**k this GM/HC search up somehow.
I think I hate football.
🛩️💥🔥
Well said
Ultimate leader who went to Egypt skipping mandatory minicamp? Your man crush is embarrassing. Bring back Adams? Why? He's slow! Did all his damage against bad defenses. Conklin stinks. Are you rooting for them to suck again?
The main cause of the Jets failures over the last decade has been coaching. That’s why head coach hire is so important
With all the dumb sh** that Woody says, how the hell does Woody look himself in the mirror?! Like a vampire, he really should have blankets covering them !!
Cheer's brother
i am onboard with a COMPETENT head coach and gm bringing rodgers back
This franchise hates us all
Gruden should be given an opportunity to be interviewed by the Jets, and also Mike McCarthy if the Cowboys cut him loose. I DO NOT WANT another first time HC, former coordinator type.
In the words of Rich Eisen, "Turn The Page."
The consistent factor for this every year S*** Show that is the NY Jets IS Woody Johnson -- the Owner.
No Vrabel is a hard pill to swallow by all means don’t bring Rex back I guess let Gruden take a shot is our best hope
If we wind up with Rex Ryan as HC, then we as Jets fans will have been gaslighted re: the entire coaching selection and hiring process, with this so-called 33rd Team consultancy as the smoke screen.
Really disliked Woody meddling with Saleh's staff to fire the OC. Leave the staff to the HC and if you're that unhappy then fire them all or just give them one more year to turn it around.
So they fired LaFleur and had a lameduck HC that could never draw in any top coaching talent for OC when he can't guarantee them any job security.
has it been this long since 1968?
This season was the most miserable disappointment of a season of any team i have ever followed in global sports.
It was just ulgy, watching Rogers collapse was simply sad.
Ill be honest, i didn't watch the last 6 games. It was too much for me.
If they keep rogers Which I doubt .. the new head coach which will Rex Ryan will have to gather the core guys along with rogers to repair the relationship…
If we are talking about repairing relationships, I'd agree to move on. I don't think relationships are broken the way the media portrays it. Everyone is frustrated but I believe it's more at ownership and the problems that have been here long before him
If Rodgers is such a "great leader", then how come it's going around, that if Rodgers comes back on the Jets, then Garrett Wilson wants to be traded ?! It doesn't sound like " leadership material" to me!!
Sounds like you're reading too much made up nonsense lol....curious what your thoughts were on the Jermaine Johnson injury story and what Rodgers did for him....?
We need to bless Todd Monken with the bag and revitalize the offense. This season boiled down to Tyron Smith and Jermaine Johnson. Not Rodgers. But you gotta admit the QBs legs aren’t so good. That’s why you move on.
Not only have you guys not ever talked about a playoff game, but the team has NOT adjusted or changed in any way. The issues are the same year after year. Woody is the only constant over the last 13 years. I hope Rogers comes back let this clown show continue. Rogers is not smart, he is not a leader, he is, has and always will be a self obsessed wanna be philosopher. He's gotten coach after coach after coach fired, he throws everyone around him under the bus the second he gets the chance, he does not take accountability for literally anything, and we aren't even going to mention how he's so old he could be the father of some guys who are playing with him. This team probably hires Flores or Ryan and goes full tap dancing clown show next year.
At the end of the day a rebuild is coming wether fans want to accept it or not. Doesn't matter if Rogers comes back or not you just delay it for a year
But u are making excuses for Rodgers
It's sad what has become of jet fans, starstruck for an old GOF who has literally done Nothing for jets organization. He is 41yr old and u still can't move on after a 5win season. Sign Fields, Mack Jones, or trade for Sam Howell as a 1 or 2 yr bridge and start rebuild of this team.
Now u scared to move because of qb cadence, u guys wanted Saleh fired mid season
I am not riding this Vrabel train. Interview Pete Carrol or Gruden
Primetime is the best. He stuck with his qb and stayed positive with Rodgers. Rodgers is a hof qb and wanted to win, but it was difficult to overcome the failures of the jets shortcomings. PT has good vibes.
Why do you keep bringing up Harbaugh? No chance in hell he would’ve come to the Jets
Hey Kevin one thing I would love to see is Roger's play with the Jets with a different coaching staff that's where you get the ultimate eye test 🏈🏈
jets will never win unless new owner. next year, another failure!!!!!!
In my worst nightmare, the Jets weren't even THIS bad
This was Murphy's Season. Everything that could have gone wrong did. I wouldn't believe it if I didn't see it
When will this end 14 years and counting 😢
Im convince never
@@mcncheese69next year guys...next year! Remember as bad as we are, no one blew more 4th quarter leads than Us, so with better coaching and some more pieces we will do it
Y’all mad at rodgers it’s the jets fault y’all bums been trash for a decade it’s the culture around that team I guarantee if he leaves he will look way better on another team y’all don’t deserve anything good y’all gonna be trash forever free rodgers 🖕🏾the jets 😂😂
You kinda repeated most of what I said in my video lol