Sydney CityRail Miscellany 5 - Harbour Bridge
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 1 ก.พ. 2025
- Filmed in the days before the metal screens were erected to protect trains and road traffic from people throwing stones, this film shows various types of CityRail trains - including Tangara and Tulloch - on the Sydney Harbour Bridge plus views out of open windows (and doors!) of trains which are crossing the bridge.
Many scenes were also filmed from the side of the bridge which is only meant to be for cyclists, although a couple of views were taken from the other side - if only to show why filming from there was not worthwhile - and to see the Sydney Opera House.
When the bridge was first built the other side of the bridge featured a pair of tracks for the trams, but following 'transport policy' advice from the so called 'experts' who were in charge of transport in London the clean electric trams were replaced with fume belching diesel buses.
However as if as a memento some of the former tram overhead wire supports remain on the bridge and can be seen in this film.
I watched all 5 of your Sydney City Rail videos from 91 - brought back some great memorys for me Simon - glad you managed to dig up the 20 yr old footage. I agree with so many of the comments especially about being able to stand at an open door while the "Red Rattlers" were at full speed over the bridge or between Redfern and Strathfield. Top Job - thanks again for the memorys!
7:19 - That was a pretty cool livery. The second best to the Red, Orange and Yellow of the C sets later in the vid.
Oh and the Tangaras looked very good back then... all glass looking front and the red stripe down the side.
Old Aussie Ads I agree
7:19
Come to our train stations now, all state of the art glitchiness
Great video!
@slugnbozo Some red painted trains comprised of single and double deckers and I think these also had hand operated doors.
Simon
A brilliant video !
Wow so awesome to see the red rattlers& Tulloch trailers look so new!
Thanks for sharing this mate. You're a legend. This is seriously rail porn to my eyes haha. I used to live in Syd at this time and I miss riding in the trains with the doors open, hearing all the strange sounds from the wider variety of models running back then. The experience of taking a train in Syd is slowly getting more and more sterile these days.
@123yessure pleased you liked it - there is more of these trains to come - look out for films 1 and 4. (film 4 looks inside these trains!) Film 1 is uplifting as I type this, film 4 should be ready within a week.
Wow amazing footage!
@T4799
That scene looking at the train from the side was filmed with the shutter speed at 1/1000th and therefore there is an element of special effects - which may explain why the train's composition looked to be somewhat odd.
Simon
My definition of true freedom : Standing at the open doorway of a Sydney single deck 2 motor power car as it thunders it's way from Wynyard and over the harbour bridge. A 20 year old feeling my kids will never get to experience.
@perrymak2000
Before the days of powered doors trains had hand operated doors, and one type of such door was the hand-operated sliding door, as seen on the Tulloch trains.
Simon
@citytransportinfo I stand corrected. It's there on one of your films that there were double decker red trains (Tullochs) that had hand operated doors. I think the reason I was confused was that when the Red Rattlers (single decker reds) were discontinued, they kept the Tullochs going for some years after and I'm pretty sure they upgraded the doors to powered.
06:05 : Oh that's gold. You never truly realise what you once had until it's gone.
Now we don’t even have most of the silver sets either
Hi there, I recall travelling on and filming many types of double deck rolling stock, but everything I have is on at least one of my films.
So, if you've seen all my films and not seen the trains you were hoping to see then I apologise as it means that I did not film them.
Simon
@zordmaker yes it was more of a thrill going for a train ride back then, now its just getting from A-B I use to love the smells and the noises of the old red rattlers
i like at the ~9:50 mark showing the tunnel portels there is debris in the foreground, including 2 spoked axles
@zordmaker The Third power car (Fifth carriage) seems a little silent.
what a beautiful sight
@clubpenguin777
I'm curious to know you say that? It was no worse than many other systems in Britain and Europe and probably better than most North American systems.
Simon
@Hazboy666 yes, they were still quite new.
You don't have pictures inside one of the double-deck Tulloch carriages do you? I remember these from when I was little. I loved the green interiors - including the green vinyl seat covers with the NSW Rail logo imprinted across them... Rail was more 'fun' back then, although the manual doors used to scare me (thought I'd fall out). However, the trains are probably more 'comfortable' today, I think. Thanks!
@T4799
Its a 7000 series, much quieter than the 3000 series cars.
The Tangaras look so much better back then
@Bails992 Some tangaras have the M and H set seating now.....
@perrymak2000 I especially loved standing at those open doors when in underground. So loud and a bit dangerous feeling.
Yes, I should have started with film 1, then 2, etc., but then I found that I had so much videotape that it was not working out how I wanted.
I was going to make film 4 my super 8 cine films from 1988, but now this will probably be film 6. At present however my film projector is not working & until the repair shop can get a new drive belt I cannot digitise anything.
I can only digitise films in our winter, as in the summer it gets dark too late and the noise annoys people who are in bed.
@zordmaker
and catching / filming it at that moment was quite something too - especially as the camera was looking at a different train...
@knightman1970 there is one scene inside these trains I am unsure if I want to share online - basically I'm agreeing with someone who was saying that those are the best trains...
Simon
The silver trains, which are still around today, I think they are the K-sets, always had automatic doors, but back in the 1990s, even when the door closed, it was pretty simple to force it open while closed. They look like the same doors on the K-sets today but not even Superman could force it once it closes - are they new door regulators or motors retrofitted to each door with greater pressure when closed?
They have locks, so you can't open it
They were very easy to overcome and you just held them open with your foot.
@citytransportinfo The Tullochs were electric. It was only the Red Rattlers (single decker) that had the hand operated wasn't it?
The M set at 10:30 is marshaled in a very strange way.
Nice video
@knightman1970
more to come... inside views too!
Simon
How come it is on the right side and not in the left? I know I am Canadian but at least I know that down there they drive on the left (plus I can see the cars driving on the left).
@Hazboy666 some of my other Sydney films have them as well - including a ride inside :-)
There is a 6th film to come... its from 1988 and super 8 cine film. Hopefully this will come later this year (2012), after I've had it digitised (professionally).
Love these trains but unfortunately as I'm only 12 I've never been on the red rattlers, although I've heard they were great. Also why do some of the red rattlers have both single and double deck carriages?
Thanks and love the videos
You’re 22 now!
@@nelsonbyron4673 holy shit you’re right, what a throwback! Will have to have another watch of this video. Still have yet to ride a red rattler :’(
This was an awesome old clip with the odd rattler.
MegaShanes1 I wish I'd been able to film more but they were only used on weekdays and most of my time in Sydney was at the weekend.
+MegaShanes1 Is it the red rattler of the 40s & 50s?
I miss the rattlers SO much.
City Looks alot different back then
There are still trains today that have windows that open
and to think they were still building the tunnel just below this when this would have been shot.
How come number 5 comes before number 4?
how did you get to side of the trains are on mate i am very interested to know
I just walked there! I think there may have been signs about that side being for cyclists but if there were I just ignored them. I think the rules are stricter nowadays, which is a big shame.
I don't think they had security on the bridge back then, so you could walk on the cyclist side
Hey Simon, can I use some of these clips in one of my videos plz?
please send me an email... citytransport.info (at) gmail.com
7:15
Such a shame they added all the high fences.
agreed! but people were throwing things on the tracks.
good to see the old rattlers again
@citytransportinfo Oh Okay!
Pretty unsafe open windows and red set non doors!