Red Terror in Soviet Russia I THE GREAT WAR Week 215
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- After an almost successful attempt on Lenin's live, the Tscheka under Felix Dzerzhinsky responds with a terror campaign to consolidate Soviet power through fear. At the same time, a supposed Allied plot is unveiled that would get Russia back into the war.
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In Soviet Russia you retreat towards the enemy.
It takes a lot of courage to be a coward in the red army. - *Papa Stalin*
although they were right to make peace with Germany
@@zainmudassir2964war with Germany killed less russians than Lenin's peace with Germany
I had a history test about WW1 and by watching your videos I hot an A+,the teacher was suprised on how detailed I was in the anwsers and its all thanks to you guys
Congratulations! 😀
@@TheCimbrianBull thanks
Indy is your best teacher and Flo the best mentor :)
@@joehoe222 yeah they are the best
In middle school I did a full final report from memory on WW2 because I discovered that my cable provider had like 6 history channels. Got an A+
"In Soviet Russia... Hey! People can make those jokes now!!"
-Lenin
In Soviet Russia hard times fall on YOU!
In Soviet Russia, Socialist Revolutionaries get assassinated by YOU!
In Soviet Russia, jokes about communism make you die from laughter... literally!
In soviet russia joke makes youw
In US you have to find the party, in Soviet Russia the Party finds for you.
Seems those comments are also growing tired of war.
To the team of The Great War: thanks for your effort and congratulations to the 215th week. You really do an amazing job.
What happens when the great war is over?
well this is the series to end all series
@@skipnick
ROFL! 🤣
Well said
skipnick They have started the WW2 series already. First episode was on Saturday.
Could you draw the Hindenburgline on the map shown from this episode towards the end of the series? Sincerely yours, Al
would be awesome
yeah but we want to see where it is on the frontline map (they also made vid about the line, when I remember it correctly
It is sad, I sort of stopped paying attention to this channel in April or May and April or May 1918 through Armistice Day are the parts of the first world war I know least about. Guess I need to go back and binge a few months of week by week to understand some of what is happening.
You won't regret it!
it's amazing how much detail they put into this i mean week by week in an over 4 year war is hard,
props to the great war channel
Wait... Is Haig finally RIGHT about an inevitable German rout?
He's been raving about it for two years now, I suppose he'd be right eventually.
It eventually gets to be every time in the day, but it wasn't inevitable the the Germans would be routed.
Terror... is contemplating life without this channel...
Nov. 11 2018. Err, I mean 1918. Getting too close. Maybe they'll do a few months of clean-up/aftermath episodes?
Marcus Bierman thank you for posting the link, I couldn’t find the channel before that
they can do the 1919 wars. Like the polish soviet war. polish ukrainian war. finish civil war. russian civil war
@@michaelcollins1196 the Finnish civil war ended in may 1918
This is definitely one of the best channels on youtube
I've been watching these since June of 2014. I have to say that its really put some heavy perspective on the entire affair. over the past few years I've realized how long and costly the war was. Its just shocking really. In a way, 100 years later we live in a world that stands yet in the great wars shadow.
Indeed it is fascinating
The Ace of Spies, the Ace of Spies! Everytime it's gets said I hear Lemmy screaming it in my head!
Jason Flay, I think he sang about the "Ace of Spades."
@@tingtong8781 oh yeah, that's the song but I can't help but to hear Ace of Spies sung like Ace of Spades, makes the guy all the more epic!
I’ve been following this story since just after you started. It’s amazing to see the western front actually move. And move in big ways that aren’t being moved back. After years of this, it’s striking how quickly this is happening.
Also, experiencing years of this in real time makes it clear why the Maginot Line made sense. That strategy is how the French stopped them before, it makes sense they’d build a bigger, better version for the next war.
Fantastic video from the war that I have never seen before, thanks.
Terrific teaching. RS. Canada
Von Lettow still fighting! Keep going bro.
Dear Great War,
I love this show. I've learned a huge amount by watching this but I was wondering. Would the show continue after the armistice and the Treaty if Versailles later on to mention the immediate effects of the war and also the Kronstadt Rebellion in the Soviet Union in the early 1920's.
Thanks for taking your time out to read this. Keep up the great work :)
Thank you, Indie and crew for keeping up with developments in Russia, though out of the war Soviet citizens were still suffering and dying and would continue to do so for the rest of the century. Your perspective on how many different ways there were to die in the fall of 1981 was brilliant. Lives lost in the millions and getting cheaper by the day it would seem.
Were there Russian Bots back in 1918?
🤔
If so how how did they do in the fronts?
They hacked their enemies to pieces.
They rushed b
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At that time there were accessible only "fellow travellers" (also allegedly called by Lenin as "useful idiots") thus Russian propaganda could not reach its impressive, contemporary size.
Are you sure you are not confusing Lenin with Stalin?
This channel may just be the greatest source for WW1 information on the internet.
going to keep asking for it but can we please have an episode or something about noel godfrey chavasse, he literally won the victory cross, TWICE in ww1 first being the battle of the somme, he was a capt in the medical corps and i believe he never fired a weapon, but not to sure on that fact. but he won both his VC for saving peoples lives. literally going over the top to pick up and recover injured troops. if i would call anyone a hero it is noel godfrey chavasse
Many of the extra episodes such as “who did what” are added by others who did the research for the episode. Contact Flo and volunteer to do research on this hero, if they’ll film the episode.
This is the best Birthday present ever! Knowledge of what happened 100 years ago on the same week!
Great wrap-up this week.
The painting of the man being shot is by Ivan Vladimirov who has a number of Russian Revolution and Russia Civil war paintings
Haven’t watched this since 2017 and the intro never gets old🙂
May I recommend a “who did what” episode about Faik Rıfkı Atay? He is a great representative of The Great War in Turkish literature and definitely deserves some attention. Since there is lack of Turkish bios in the channel. Love the show!
Excellent episode. Honest analysis. I believe that's Trotsky talking to the crowd at 1:35.
*HOME BY CHRISTMAS*
Hey Indie love the show everyone is amazing and AWESOME. Tell them that. I was wondering Did Erwin Rommel (The Desert Fox) mimic any of Lettow-Vorbeck tactics.
Man, that German morale-collapse is huge on the Western Front.
I had never imagined it would be this bad for them
Von Lettow-Vorbeck ?!....That guy is still alive and kicking I see
The Australian capture of Mont St Quentin deserves more. Rawlinson declared that action the finest of the war. 5 German divisions were pushed back.
Absolutely. I feel the efforts of the Anzacs are downplayed on this channel, while being observed. The taking of Peronne and Mt SQ are pivotal to the surge to the Hindenburg line, and the final end of the war. The Canadians and Australians were the final thrust which broke German morale, The Germans surrendered rather than face either of these 'Territorial' forces.
The Americans, late to the party, and with sub par leadership, were cannon fodder at the Argonne.
I was going to say that it would've been for the best had Lenin died in August... but then I realized that Trotsky and Stalin would then ascend to power earlier. Granted, Stalin's position wasn't as solidified yet, so a showdown between the two might've resulted in the fracturing of the Red Army and a bloody civil war that I honestly cannot imagine its conclusion, let alone its affect on Russia.
I really don't see that happening. There were other bolsheviks than Trotsky and Stalin. At this point those two hadn't even become faction leaders in opposition to each other yet. I think people who speculate about how history in the USSR might have gone often don't take into acount just how many different revolutionaries, theorists, activists and politicians there were with their own ideas, who could have changed things greatly, before they were purged by Stalin. Back in 1918, absolutely anything could have happened, the range of opportunities was immense. It wasn't just a choice between the two paths of Trotsky and Stalin.
Lenin was the best that ever happened to Russia
Valter Östberg Point taken.
J Sailer Trotsky got ice picked not too long after, anyway
sinthoras but when he died, true communism died with him. And then a complete trashing of the concept of ethics and human rights.
Very educational but as you summed up at the end, thousands have died of influenza and battles "same ol', same ol'." I imagine for those in the trenches kept wondering when will it ever end?
«There are thirteen or fourteen very able men in the Kremlin who hold all Russia and more than a third of Europe in their control». - Winston Churchill, House of Commons, 23 October 1946
"The British naval attache in Petrograd was murdered by the Bolsheviks in the embassy building" What? That's the only mention Francis Cromie gets anywhere on this entire channel? And he's not even named. The guy deserves his own special! He smuggled British submarines into the Baltic in order to interdict the Swedish Iron route, and ended up running the British espionage operation in Russia. When the Bolshies attacked the British embassy he defended the building more or less by himself, killing three of them. He's the only British naval attache in history to die in combat. His death was front page news in Britain and caused a national outrage.
"Haig planning a big offensive" has strong "Cadorna plans an offensive along the Isonzo". Although to be fair to Haig, he at least seems to have learned his lessons
An interesting counterfactual, for people who like speculative history: What happens if the Allies don't try to get rid of the Bolsheviks? Possible effects of this could be Stalin not defeating Trotsky for control of the USSR after Lenin's death.
No, Trotsky was never that popular :/
Why? You seem to have swallowed the bait of the "intrinsically evil reds" propaganda. Terror was not an essential part of communism, but the horrible upshot of a maelstrom of violence everywhere, a violence unleashed by the capitalistic empires and which the socialists and communists had in vain tried to stop.
@@javiergilvidal1558 they really didn't. The invasion of Poland war demonstrates that clearly.
Some have this weird tendency to try justifying communism and it's inevitable crimes against humanity by blaming capitalism for all the evils that the communists themselves commit.
Sure, the butchery of 1914 (the beginning of it all) has nothing to do with capitalism and imperialism. Socialist Jean Jaures is no doubt to blame for the carnage, for having put his head in the way of a bullet. And the widespread misery of that most vicious of wars, the Great War, is the obvious result of Communist machinations, not the effect of merciless struggles for power and yet more riches between the angelic capitalistic powers. The monstrous squalor derived worldwide from the Wall Street crisis of 1930 is a typical Commie plot, and Hitler and his barbaric crusade of extermination against the USSR was a clever plan of the Reds to have their country smashed and 22 million of their citizens slain in order to win the war and justify its world power status. Hiroshima and Nagasaki, as we all known, was the result of Commie bombings after they copied and back-engineered the B-29 bomber, which the yanks had designed to sprinkle water over forest fires.... Try to unwash your brain. It´s gonna be hard, but it´s never too late!
Tiny matter - in Australia, Monash is pronounced with a short "O" as in "modest" or "mono"
The episode should be called " The birth of Soviet paranoia". Measured in millions of blood till 1991
It was a war against Western colonial despotism.
Who else hits like on every Great War video before it starts?
can't beleave only 5 episodes left, will you continue this channel with some more episodes about the negotiations after the war is over?
"The Latvian rifles turned out to be unbribable."
As a Latvian, I'm not sure if I should be proud of that. If they had been bribed, maybe the Soviet Union wouldn't have happened...
The alternative didn't sound any better than what Lenin did.
@@aaronspillman1140 Ask the Latvians and Estonians, anything was better than Lenin and Stalin; even if the whites won, the wouldn't have deported hundreds of thousands just because.
The Latvian's could've saved millions from t.rture and dth, but at the time a lot was going on, Latvian rifles probably felt it was safest or right to stay their position
hey indie, have you heard of the 1st battle of Heligoland ? Can you direct me to the episode it was in ? Please respond
Wow. Canada did a bunch of things in WW1. I had no idea.
In Canada we always hear about Vimy. But now, looking at the history of the war, it is apparent that Vimy did really bring Canada together and turn us into a nation.
With the war in the west ending in about 2 months what do you plan for the time after that? Will there be more weekly episodes about the negotiations for the peace treaties and the civil war in russia or will you just cover it up with a few summarizing episodes like the Balkan wars before the weekly episodes started. And what will you do after this project ends?
The only spy your really need, the ace of spies! the ace of spies!
Indy & Crew, could you do a Special Episode on Spanish Flu? Thanks and more power to your channel (also to the new WW2 channel)
The Canadians and Anzacs were awesome fighters. The Americans proved themselves to be tough as nails too.
Hey Indy, and hello to everyone at "The Great War".
I've a question about trench layout. There was a mythbusters episode that looked at the claim that the Germans insisted that all their trenches had to have sharp right angles at any corner, so as to limit how far an explosion in one could travel along it. If I recall it was found to work, but did the Germans or any other nation do this?
Thanks for the excellent content, here's to you all!
This was uploaded on my birthday-
I'll be damned.
@ 4:12, or was he....? Awesome Video!
I’m honoured to be Canadian! it was the men of the Canadian expeditionary force that made our country what it is today
Love from the Netherlands our Canadian hero's :)
All gave some. Some gave all. Lest we forget. 🇨🇦🍁✝️
Shout out to a fellow Canadian, can`t hold us back
Give it a rest. Please
Delta2196 "can't hold us back" says a guy who has never even touched a gun
Indy, can you do a day by day history of the world until 2045?
Could you make a video completely focusing on Nestor Makhno and/or The Ukraine Free Territory?
I would be very interested in that as well.
When describing events in Russia please display map of all of Russian Empire and highlight locations.
"..turned out to be unbribable..."
Yeap, sounds like many of my compatriots. Greetings from Latvia! Sure, it's not like there is no corruption, money laundering, kick-backs etc, but most people are not like that not just here, but anywhere in the world.
Indy and crew - Question?
Where and what is August von Mackensen up to at this time in the war? After Romania things get kinda quiet with his story - Seems like at this point, it would be a "all hands" situation, and von Mackensen has proven himself to be reliable, dedicated, and competent, did Hindenburg and Ludendorff not want anybody in their spotlight on the western front?
"It is better to be feared than loved, if you cannot be both." --Niccolo Machiavelli
Love your vids
I just realized,
This channel is like......
News real shorts of the 1930's & 40's....
With more details and less bias....
As Churchill said (in 1949, though he said similar things at the time of the Red Terror), “I think the day will come when it will be recognized without doubt, not only on one side of the House, but throughout the civilized world, that the strangling of Bolshevism at its birth would have been an untold blessing to the human race.”
I just heard of the 52 tunnel road in Italy and thought that it might be a topic to touch on somtime?
In Soviet Russia you don't create the nation, the nation creates you!
"I have 100 problems, but losing a World War anti one." -The Allies
OMG I just caught up I am on the front lines! It feels wired wanting for new episodes Lol
Welcome to the front Soldier ! Now take your rifle and wait the command ;)
The Red Terror is one of the most terrible events in the history of Russia.
so it seems we are well into the 100 Days Campaign at this point. Makes sense as 100 days is 3 months and 10 days
If you are going to talk about estonian Independence war then contact Eastory, small channel but with very informative videos. Cheers!
What is going on in Austria? Last I recall the Germans had taken command of their armies, but I didn't think they were out of the war. Have I forgotten something?
Hey Indie, could you talk about the Halifax Explosion. Thanks.
He did. Check the relevant week and year video. Much of it was about the explosion.
Oof. 2 minutes after releasing. Yea and. Keep up the great work.
Well done, Indy! You said "...by influenza" and not the usual misname wich has prevailed, "Spanish flu". The proper name would be "1918 influenza pandemic". It didn't originate in Spain at all
I love whatching this very informative
Where has Paul Von Hindenburg gone to at this point n the war? Not heard anything about him for a while?
September already. We are getting close.
Hi gents
I like your picture
The Soviets... so many issues
The Germans...so many issues.
The British...so many issues.
The French...so many issues.
The Americans...so many issues.
@ I don't know dude, the English trying to exterminate the Irish was pretty bad. And slavery wasn't too nice either. And the less said about the Paris Commune the better.
@@Edax_Royeaux not nearly as many issues (atrocities) as the Cheka and their successors the NKVD created..not by a long stretch.
The chaos of the world one hundred years ago isn't too different from the world we live in today.
Although, worringly, some parallels between today's world and various other turbulent parts of history can be taken, I don't think today's world can at all be compared with the utter chaos that reigned in the closing months of WWI, and the following couple of years. I'm not sure today's humanity can even imagine being subjected to some of what was going on a mere hundred years ago.
what? Is Europa embroiled in a huge war right now and is Russia being taken over by a huge civil war? Stop with these comments
Sadly we're more similair to the 1930's, with growing tensions between political groups, disinformation from radicals and fascists marching in the streets.
@@Max-is4qu Only took an extra 4 years.
Huge fan of this channel. If you like it you might enjoy History Guy.
I really want to see the Polish-soviet War and the miracle of Warsaw from this channel.
I’m an American and so every time there’s a little mention of American action I go “Hey! That’s us!”
Where’s the workout video Indy?
"Cheka" spelling in video is way more clear than "Tscheka" in video description
Please go more in depth with the Canadians. They did some excellent fighting in the last 100 days especially at the canal du nord. (I think that’s how you spell it)
there are more Canada centric episodes than about most countries in the war
At 10:15
Was there a guy holding a rock and smiling whlie his comrades were surrendering?
Thanks from Khabarovsk)))
Be well, friend. Peace
Can you cover the cargo zeppelin that was supposed to resupply von Lettow-Vorbeck?
Edit: this hasn’t happened yet
Can't wait for the ww2 week in 20 years 11 months and 24 days
What was the sentiment of allied troops on the Western front? Do letters seem to indicate that they felt victory was near, or was it, in their minds, just business as usual going endlessly forward and backwards?
Actually although frontline Entante troops and their leaders feeling that they were finally winning they were also expecting war extending till 1919 or maybe 1920. German Revolution that shall occur incoming months and fall of German Empire was a suprise for everyone expect starved German nation itself
Nooooo! Not Baku!
Not Well Done, Baku!
Ah this is so cool
Have you done a who did what in ww1 about Admiral Kolchak?
When people complain about the world today, I think as bad as it is... it is nothing compared to the world 100 years ago.
so much emphasis in this and prior weeks on Baku, not a word about the Italian / Macedonian / Mesopotamian / Palestine fronts or what was gong on in Vienna Sofia Berlin or Istanbul.
we talked a lot about the preparations in Palestine, we talked about the built up in the Balkans and we talked about the machinations in Germany too. If you can't remember that, maybe rewatch the episodes before accusing us.
When you have fear of bacteria from ants’ bitting, you kill them 😂
If anybody is interested in the Red Terror of 1918 I highly recommend Solzhenytsn's Gulag Archipelago.
PS: It's CHEKA or VChK (VeCheKa) not Tscheka. It's an acronym for Vserossiskaya CHrezvychaynaya Komissiya - All-Russian Extraordinary Committee (the bolsheviks loved themselves some committees alright)
The problem is that Solzhenitsyn's books are art literature, not documentary. The author was a nationalist and hated the Soviet regime, so he is engaged in the question of understanding of Soviet policy. I'm Russian and I know that he used a lot of lies in his books. He received a literary award to the west because of anti-communist propaganda.
Андрей Борцов I disagree. For one the Gulag Archgipelago is very to the point and factual. I'm at book 2 and every page so far has verifiable references. On the other hand his writings are consistent with what people like Steinhardt and prisoners from other countries wrote
Pasha Staravoitau That's not true
Sir Adrian
Here is the documentary data on the number of prisoners in Soviet camps.
1930 - 179.000
1931 - 212.000
1932 - 268.700
1933 - 334.300
1934 - 510.307
1935 - 725.483
1936 - 839.406
1937 - 820.881
1938 - 996.367
1939 - 1.317.195
1940 - 1.344.408
1941 - 1.500.524
1942 - 1.415.596
1943 - 983.974
1944 - 663.594
1945 - 715.505
1946 - 746.871
1947 - 808.839
1948 - 1.108.057
1949 - 1.216.361
1950 - 1.416.300
1951 - 1.533.767
1952 - 1.711.202
1953 - 1.727.970
Here is information for what crimes people got into the gulag.
The people go into the gulag for specific crimes against the state: counterrevolutionary crimes, treason, terror, sabotage, spying, wrecking, anti-Soviet agitation, banditry, hooliganism, speculation, property theft, economic crimes, crimes against the individual, socially dangerous element, military perpetrators etc.
Compare this with what Solzhenitsyn writes.
They have an abridged version now of all volumes, it's interesting and worth reading.
Le Figaro being a seriously right wing paper, seeing one of their journalists cooperate with Lenin boggles the mind... 🧐
4:40 I'd love to see what this concrete (thing) looks like today
Either blow up or still there
I have always said that Haig is not a great general (Lee, Montgomery, Wellington), but a solid overall commander. He is the British version of Grant, a man who kept learning, kept the pressure up knowing sometimes the calculus is the way to win, and who finally uses his learning and momentum to kick in the door. The 100 Days doesn't make up for mistakes at The Somme and Flanders (which I have defended at least in part because of what he faced and the challenges with French, Italians, and Russians). But he rightly deserves credit for his generalship in 1918, from response to Michael to this 100 Days.