"This game is protected by all international copyright laws. Copyright infringement will be punishable by death in any country accessible by air travel."
In a way it kind of does doesn’t it? But I get these Silent Hill 3 vibes actually. I remember playing SH 3 and I remember the game had these crimson red tinges in the atmosphere. Much like this ending
Ironically the first postal can be interpreted as an exploration on the dynamic between the player and the player character. It's a good eldritch horror story at least. Imagine this, you have a somewhat normal life's then suddenly you go off rails, grab guns and start murdering your way through a city. Nobody can apparently stop you and you find increasingly more destructive and sadistic ways to go about doing it. There's no actual motivation for you, the character, it's just that the b Otherworldly being that's piloting you seems to have the goal to kill the most people and get to certain places, all while you see, hear and feel it all happen. When they kill you, you just somehow warp back in time and continue going. In the end you're so overcome with confusion, anger and grief that you snap completely, and the being that possessed you finally leaves, apparently satisfied. You are captured and studied for the rest of your wretched life, never understanding what happened to you, while the actual culprit has long left, having lost interest in you. And then one day after many, many years of imprisonment, shock therapy and all kinds of "treatment", again for no apparent reason, it comes back, warping you right back to the start of everything, to do it all over again, except this time its even worst as the being that possesses you seems much more skilled at driving you.
This is honestly one of the best perspectives of any piece of media I've ever heard from anybody, tbh. Going about the game with that interpretation actually makes it so much more depressing and horrific.
I think the loading screen with the eye also means that something is watching over "his" actions, the demon could be us doing all these horrible things
"Population pressure and the stress of modern life may cause an increase in violent tendencies. The urban environment is the incubator for all sorts of undesirable behaviors. However, much his atrocities disgust us, he may actually consider himself a hero. This is common among those who are referred to by the popular slang, "going postal". In his tortured mind, he may feel he was battling against impossible odds. It is not unusual for some individuals to believe that the entire fate of the world rest with them." We live in a society
Population pressure and the stress of modern life may cause an increase in violent tendencies. The urban environment is an incubator for all sorts of undesirable behaviors.
@@Im-apple69 Who TF are you fooling? They removed the school and instead it's a church with a graveyard. And you see yourself being put in the ground.
No but it is theorized that the demon like figure is what posses the postal dude or how he sees people that's he's killing because he has to "cleanse the earth" but we don't know for sure
@@spooky882 Technically, the ending was ALTERED. The church ending in Redux is far less impactful than the Elementary School ending in '97, but it's understandable given the times.
@@SRGIProductions It's still very impactful, just in a different way. It adds extra depth to the dude's rampage as opposed to the original simply going for shock value.
@@mrscruffles801 I'd argue the burial to be more impactful and better as a whole, especially since you can actually see Dude having an extreme form of mental breakdown, as opposed to him just getting to the ground on his knees in the original Postal.
@@RealMephres The breakdown makes a lot more sense too, at least in the game's context. I've had this theory for a while that the "Demon" you hear in Postal 1 is Postal Dude Jr, the son of the game's protagonist and the protagonist of all games afterward. Possibly related to Dude Sr feeling immense guilt for what a terrible father he was, which manifested itself as a voice in his head manipulating him to go on a killing spree. You can even see a man at the funeral who looks a lot like the Postal 2 dude, and a woman who could either be the wife of Postal Dude Jr or his mother. The headstone in Postal 2 says he died in 1998, implying he died a year after his rampage in the asylum.
I think at the end, when he realized the kids were just hallucinations, the gravity of the situation finally hit him, and he realized: Those people weren't sick, he was. He realized he really was crazy, and that he had just slaughtered hundreds of innocent people for no reason. He breaks down and is arrested and institutionalized.
he remembers his childhood, his good times where the modern life wasn't making him go postal, this is why he gets grounded by seeing those children. and, he gets locked into an asylum, not a jail. edit: the proof that he doesn't starts to think that he is the bad guy is the line at the ending "he may consider himself as hero"
Yeah I don't buy that, I'm more convinced that he really did go through with it and it's just him not being able to process what he is doing, thus shattering his mind. It's fitting that this would be the even that would break his delusion, but be too little too late, he has committed one of the darkest deeds, and there is no turning back.
This ending is terrifying. Throughout the game, we get glimpses, images, into the mind of the postal dude. We see the world through his eyes specifically in the loading screens. Gruesome images of demons, hellfire, and the dead. A man as mentally unwell and utterly delusional as the postal dude should’ve been killed at the end of his journey… keeping him alive with the thoughts in his head is a fate much worse than death.
The saddest part of what you say is that precisely because of his madness, postal dude ended up being dehumanized, the psychiatrists at the asylum must have see him as a fascinating specimen, an object of study and they feel complete apathy for the suffering he feels by staying alive. "We may never know exactly what set him off but rest assured, we will have plenty of time to study him"
I think the main thing this game has over Hatred, is possessing greater nuance and depth, by NOT having a point. Or, not making one as clearly as Hatred's, which boils down to "Humanity sucks, you are evil, kill everyone." Classic edgy middle-schooler rhetoric, taken to the extreme with zero self-awareness. You shoot people, you blow up the city, you win, the end. Meanwhile, Postal is more about the delusion that there is a point to your killing, and then have the security in that ripped away, to the point that you--the player--don't know why you're doing it. Is it the mind altering substance, as the Dude believes? Is it a demon possessing him, or the townsfolk? Is it all some paranoid delusion? Did it even happen? Or some combination? In some ways, it feels like Postal is edgier than Hatred, but in the way that actually lends more to it, rather than taken away.
Hatred is honestly, clearly edgier. I mean Postal is made to make you feel bad and unconfortable. Postal has art with a background of a city you'd surely hate to live in, a loud, disturbing music. And the worst part? The original game barely had soundtrack that was "Fun" y'know. When you were on the levels shooting people there was no music.
@@greenman1200 I meant to refer to Postal as more 'edgy' as in more *effectively* edgy. I was drawing from this video ( th-cam.com/video/wrCxKfrrMBk/w-d-xo.html ) where it is dark, vulgar, raw, and has a sort of primal attitude to it, which constitutes something being edgy. But I feel another component to it is the ability to resonate with others--to really get into them. Yeah, Hatred is more 'edgy' in the sense of it being vulgar, violent, and the like, but feels like it lacks that primal feeling to it, that allows it to come off as anything but childish. Another example could be found in, say...Berserk (and I want to contrast it against Doom, but that'd probably piss off some active fans). It is grim, violent, vulgar, and has a primal fury in its protagonist--but it serves the story & themes effectively. It is about a man, who is destined by fate to die at the hands of demons--a fate he continually & constantly struggles against. And the visceral nature of the content effectively portrays how Guts is willing to fight, claw, and scream his way through every problem life inevitably throws at him. Pardon my rambling. Thanks, if you read the whole way through.
The difference between Postal and Hatred isn't that one has a point and the other doesn't, they both have a point. The point is to shock. And not in a shallow way either. At the time when both games were released video game violence was a high topic, and Hatred was created in the defiance against the puritan busybody narrative that video games cause it, while Postal was less about the video game violence causing anything and more an examination behind the mentality of someone who would go, well, postal. Even though they're similar, I wouldn't even consider them comparable. Both are in fact pieces of art that have very different statements that do not conflict with each other. They both do it through the same ways, too.
The difference between postal and hatred is that hatred tries to make you feel cool and badass for the things you do. Meanwhile postal is just supposed to make you feel uncomfortable
@@PiroKUSS It has become more of a scary than a fun game, such cases when society puts pressure on a person and he starts shooting everyone are very common now.
The voice isnt actually the postal dude, it is a demon inside him that makes him do these things, the postal dudes scream when caught on fire and at the end of rhe ending cutscene is his actual voice. The demon left him,and at that moment he broke down realising what he has done.
@@maxalexander2874 i also speculate postal 2 dude is the son of postal 1 dude since he is reffered to as postal dude junior and pisses on his dads grave
@@maxalexander2874 It was confirmed that it's a demon and not Postal Dude speaking when one of the members of Running with Scissors was interviewed for Postal Redux.
@@shugafoo2847 In the latest version of postal 2, if you look to the left from the dads grave, you can see a grave titled "zombie dad" and he also died in 2002, which was the year the dlc came out for postal 1, if you piss on that grave, he comes out as a zombie (of course) with a machete, a blurry red t shirt and a big hole in his bottom chest. So that means postal dude junior had two dads?
Population pressure and the stress of modern life may cause an increase in violent tendencies. The urban environment is the incubator for all sorts of undesirable behaviors. However, much his atrocities disgust us, he may actually consider himself a hero. This is common among those who are referred to by the popular slang, "going postal". In his tortured mind, he may feel he was battling against impossible odds. It is not unusual for some individuals to believe that the entire fate of the world rest with them. In the end, our subject displays all the classic symptoms of a paranoid delusional. We may never know exactly what set him off but... Rest assured we have plenty of time to study him. best fucking ending.
"Давление со стороны населения и напряженность современной жизни могло вызвать рост склонности к жестокости. Городская среда является инкубатором для всех видов нежелательного поведения. Однако, хоть его зверства и вызывают у нас отвращение, фактически, он может считать себя героем. Это часто встречается среди тех, кто использует популярное выражение "Going Postal". В его извращенном сознании он мог чувствовать, что боролся с системой. Это не редкость для подобных личностей - считать, что вся судьба мира лежит в их ладони. В конце-концов, у нашего пациента проявлены все симптомы, вызывающие параноидальное расстройство. Мы можем так никогда и не узнать, что же подтолкнуло его на это, но... хотя бы уверены, что у нас будет достаточно времени изучить его."
"A népesség nyomása és a modern élet stressze az erőszakos hajlam növekedését okozhatja. A városi környezet az inkubátora mindenféle nemkívánatos viselkedésnek. Annak ellenére, hogy az ő atrocitása minket undorít, valójában hősnek tekintheti magát. Ez gyakori azok között, akikre a népszerű szleng, a "going postal" hivatkozik. Kínzott elméjében érezheti, hogy lehetetlen esélyek ellen küzd. Nem szokatlan, hogy egyes egyének azt hiszik, hogy a világ teljes sorsa rajtuk áll. Végül a mi tárgyunk a paranoid téveszmének összes klasszikus tünetét mutatja be. Lehet, hogy soha nem tudjuk meg pontosan, mi indította el őt, de ... Biztos lehet benne, hogy rengeteg időnk van a tanulmányozására."
Stix N' Stones Well this ending also reminds me a whole lot of the end of the Movie “Falling Down.” No spoilers! See it for yourself. And you will see exactly what I mean.
POSTAL (1997) universe Dude: I see demons and I need to kill em all. POSTAL 2 universe Dude: Killing is my everyday life, but I only do it for the sake of errends and let the bitch get off my back.
the first game is the only one like this, the second is more dark comedy and is just a big "fuck you" to the newspeople complaining about the first being too violent (postal dude, jr. (presumably a different person than the postal dude in the 1st game, assuming redux's co-op ending isnt canon) even has a petition labelled "make whiny congressmen play violent videogames"). postal 3, they tried leaning into the mood postal 2 set up, the only good thing was the postal dude's lines, the rest of the game was shit. postal 4 (which is currently in the "janky-ass beta") seems promising and may go back to what made postal 2 great and avoiding almost everything they did in postal 3.
So in the files for postal, there are two voices for the dude. 1 that refers to the postal dude, and the other called demon, both Voiced by different people. In this ending, there is a belief that we, the players, are the demon in the postal dudes mind, and that we are free to walk away, while the postal dude is imprisoned.
The thing is though, and something that people tend to forget about Postal, that you never actually have to kill unarmed or innocent people and you never get any reward for doing so IIRC. Only hostiles need to be killed to move on to the next level, and I'm pretty sure they start shooting you on sight even if you haven't attacked anyone yet. That alone makes it a lot less "offensive" than usually portrayed, since you're theoretically acting in self-defense against an entire town that does appear to have gone violently insane just like the main character believes.
Yes, it's hard to know for sure what's meant to be real. Still, for the player it's an act of self-defense to kill anyone with a gun, as far as we know, which I still think changes the morality compared to how it's usually portrayed.
@MaxNeu14 Not only that but the Postal Dude had a gun in his hand so the police would ofcourse draw their gun on him, and in his "tortured mind" they meant to attack him without reason so he shot them before they shot him. Its like actual psychotic patients, they don't know they're psychotic...
I absolutely love this. No real THE END screen, just a screen showing the horrific rampage you’re gonna have to call “victory.” The laugh at the end of the credits seals the whole thing. You didn’t win shit, _it_ did.
Im starting to realize that games which let you do bad stuff, only to get the main character imprisoned and having you go free are the most effective ones.
There are 2 types of horror games in wich you are the monster Doom eternal: you are the badass monster Postal 1: you killed innocent people because "the earth" demanded it
Imagine someone who has never heard of postal and they find this old ass game on a disk in the middle of nowhere and play it It would be an actual fuckin gaming creepypasta hahaha
Much better that Redux ending. And I'm not about school shooting - even asylum scene was much better, scarier, and disturbing. Rick Hunter's voice sounds much more real, than Corey Cruise.
Population pressure and the stress of modern life may cause an increase in violent tendencies. The urban enviornment is the incubator for all sorts of undesirable behaviors. However, much his atrocities disgust us, he may actually consider himself a hero. This is common among those who are referred to by the popular slang, "going postal". In his tortured mind he may feel he was battling against impossible odds. It is not unusual for some individuals to believe that the entire fate of the world rests with them. In the end, out subject displays all the classic symptoms of a paranoid delusional. We may never know exactly what set him off but, rest assured we'll have plenty of time to study him.
Just replied to a comment that said "the dated 90s computer game aesthetic adds to the vibe" And I said "Imagine someone who has never heard of postal and they find this old ass game on a disk in the middle of nowhere and play it It would be an actual fuckin gaming creepypasta hahaha"
The history of Postal 1 is totally confusing and has 2 versions of the story I saw Postal 1 on several channels and speak the first version of the story others talk about the second there is no logic after all .... WHAT IS THE TRUE STORY OF POSTAL 1?
It is still not 100% clear what story is about. You were killing humans, the reason for it is still unclear, but you can say for sure that Postal dude had schizophrenia. It is unclear why Postal dude was schizophrenic in first place. Maybe there was a hatred plague, hinted in Redux version, that affected not only Postal dude but other people as well. Maybe Postal dude is War Veteran with PTSD, as some players noticed newspapers with War veterans being declined from mental heal funding. In any case, you killed a lot of people. Even if it was self defense, you were too good at it.
@@TheSpitefulSword well a manual you can get with the physical release says postal dude thinks that there is a plague that makes people go insane and the postal dude is the only sane man left. also the volume option for postal dude's voice is called demon. many think this ending is postal dude realising that he killed many people for nothing having a breakdown and being transferred to a mental asylum
Unwarranted Self Importance A lot of media has used this sample pack that I don't recall the name of made for horror soundtracks. A lot of the elements in the Postal OST are also in Half Life because of it.
RWS drawing the line of acceptable violence at violence against children, hence the reason you see why postal dude can't even hurt them. In the revamp series is quite dark, instead this one we simply get the coffin because the related news is saturated to the point of numbness. It seems even with three decade we still haven't figure out what cause the rampant violence. Inferiority complex? Over socialization? Social media can take the most of the blame obviously and for I fear what reason will appear for the next three decade.
The Wizard of Oz: Wow! I woke up from that crazy thing that happened! I thought my house blew away to a magical land but I guess it was all a dream! Return to Oz: 1:08
What I don't understand is if he kills the children at the end or just imagines it, since the bullets and missiles go through them without hurting them
the most disturbing part is that school shootings like this actually happened. we are slowly making oversaturated, disturbing, desensitized, overexaggerated meant to look bad and horrible versions of our world into a reality. if this continues humanity might not stick around for much longer.
The way that some people talk about this ending, I don't think that many realize that "The Elementary School" is not an actual level that you just can't progress in, it's a cinematic.
If you look closely, you can still see his eye and ear. It's the same close-up, but in Redux, it's much LESS heavily distorted and overall cleaner. Here you don't know what exactly you're looking at, and that makes it more disturbing.
Is this even allowed killing kids? The reason kids are not in GTA is because of that but I don't know this is a really weird game with a really weird ending to it.
Vince Desi has said in multiple interviews that even though he is an “anything goes” kind of guy he has absolute disgust for child abuse and rape. So the ending of the game has the kids on the playground be invincible against the Postal Dude. But in the Redux version of the game they changed the ending almost entirely where the Dude stumbles upon a funeral instead.
@@Genrevideos Presumably, it's his funeral. As the casket gets lowered into the ground, the "hostiles" counter goes from 1 to 0, implying that he was the true and only "hostile" all along. Not really sure if it's an improvement or not. Definitely interesting to say the least.
Has anyone realised that the song or the ambience sounds familiar to Half Life 1 Suspense 05? Listen carefully 0:19-0:29 ( th-cam.com/video/4jSx2r9c7cU/w-d-xo.html )
On a side note, being a Chrsitian and all one thing that has always stuck with me is my brother saying that being mentally ill individuals are corrupted by demons in one way or another. All that festering negativity can invite unholy guests to twist your thoughts around. Not my words, of course. Only his take on the matter at hand.
Having an imaginative mind sucks, because now all i think about is how much they treated Dude like a lab rat after this emding, testing his skills and anger with inhumane tests
Excuse me, can I use a little fragment of this video for a video of mine (A retrospective) ? All credits will be on the video and description, link included
Population pressure and the stress of modern life may cause an increase in violent tendencies. The urban environment is the incubator for all sorts of undesirable behaviors. However, much his atrocities disgust us, he may actually consider himself a hero. This is common among those who are referred to by the popular slang, "going postal" . In his tortured mind, he may feel he was battling against impossible odds. It is not unusual for some individuals to believe that the entire fate of the world rest with them. In the end, our subject displays all the classic symptoms of paranoid delusional. We may never know exactly what set him off but... Rest assured we have plenty of time to study him.
"This game is protected by all international copyright laws. Copyright infringement will be punishable by death in any country accessible by air travel."
The Air Force Base
lmfao
I always thought that was a nice touch.
bruh.
1:08
A lot of the Imagery In the game reminds me of Silent Hill. I've always found that kind of art Interesting to look at.
It's heavily inspired by Francis Bacon's art.
In a way it kind of does doesn’t it? But I get these Silent Hill 3 vibes actually. I remember playing SH 3 and I remember the game had these crimson red tinges in the atmosphere. Much like this ending
Your profile pic is really scary.
Even one of Postal's music actually has the sample in Silent Hill games
@@JamiroquaiEnjoyerWhich one
Ironically the first postal can be interpreted as an exploration on the dynamic between the player and the player character. It's a good eldritch horror story at least. Imagine this, you have a somewhat normal life's then suddenly you go off rails, grab guns and start murdering your way through a city. Nobody can apparently stop you and you find increasingly more destructive and sadistic ways to go about doing it. There's no actual motivation for you, the character, it's just that the b
Otherworldly being that's piloting you seems to have the goal to kill the most people and get to certain places, all while you see, hear and feel it all happen. When they kill you, you just somehow warp back in time and continue going. In the end you're so overcome with confusion, anger and grief that you snap completely, and the being that possessed you finally leaves, apparently satisfied. You are captured and studied for the rest of your wretched life, never understanding what happened to you, while the actual culprit has long left, having lost interest in you.
And then one day after many, many years of imprisonment, shock therapy and all kinds of "treatment", again for no apparent reason, it comes back, warping you right back to the start of everything, to do it all over again, except this time its even worst as the being that possesses you seems much more skilled at driving you.
This is honestly one of the best perspectives of any piece of media I've ever heard from anybody, tbh. Going about the game with that interpretation actually makes it so much more depressing and horrific.
What is the comeback... replay game??
@@chlorine--17 DLC
I think the loading screen with the eye also means that something is watching over "his" actions, the demon could be us doing all these horrible things
Reminds me of Undertale and Deltarune when it comes to being controlled by the player
There will never be another game like this.
you're right
Hatred tried and failed, becoming a boring as fuck shooter with too much edge.
@@lulzalfest And got the the worst possible ESRB rating in game history
@@lulzalfest I like Hatred, but it surely didn't had the same atmosphere.
Hatred wasn't that bad 💀
Ahh yes a very kid friendly game
"Population pressure and the stress of modern life may cause an increase in violent tendencies. The urban environment is the incubator for all sorts of undesirable behaviors. However, much his atrocities disgust us, he may actually consider himself a hero. This is common among those who are referred to by the popular slang, "going postal". In his tortured mind, he may feel he was battling against impossible odds. It is not unusual for some individuals to believe that the entire fate of the world rest with them."
We live in a society
The USPS sued RWS because of the use of the phrase "postal" since in the 80s "going postal" was a thing
Population pressure and the stress of modern life may cause an increase in violent tendencies. The urban environment is an incubator for all sorts of undesirable behaviors.
Just the title of the level alone is spine chilling
the kid noises used are the same used at the end of the KORN freak on a leash music video.
The best credits theme in any Postal game. (2:07)
4:50 My reaction to FNAF Butthurt kids.
Killer Kemestar The Gnome hi
you guys alive?
@@blob6602 your mom
@@goromi8340 lol
And thats from creators of funny postal 2 and kids games
i love this really crazy ending
Man, seems like the doc is the same guy, who did the voice for the audio recorder in Resident Evil 3
I wish they put this in redux.
They did
@@Im-apple69 Who TF are you fooling? They removed the school and instead it's a church with a graveyard. And you see yourself being put in the ground.
@@TheSolidMidgetOfficiali thought you were talking about the ending cutscene
this game is so fucked up dude
anybody know who makes the music from this game
is the player the demon?
No but it is theorized that the demon like figure is what posses the postal dude or how he sees people that's he's killing because he has to "cleanse the earth" but we don't know for sure
This is proof that you don't need jumpscares to have a horror game. Also the song in the ending was reused for the stores loading theme in redux.
Also redux has other ending
@@spooky882 Technically, the ending was ALTERED. The church ending in Redux is far less impactful than the Elementary School ending in '97, but it's understandable given the times.
@@SRGIProductions It's still very impactful, just in a different way. It adds extra depth to the dude's rampage as opposed to the original simply going for shock value.
@@mrscruffles801 I'd argue the burial to be more impactful and better as a whole, especially since you can actually see Dude having an extreme form of mental breakdown, as opposed to him just getting to the ground on his knees in the original Postal.
@@RealMephres The breakdown makes a lot more sense too, at least in the game's context. I've had this theory for a while that the "Demon" you hear in Postal 1 is Postal Dude Jr, the son of the game's protagonist and the protagonist of all games afterward. Possibly related to Dude Sr feeling immense guilt for what a terrible father he was, which manifested itself as a voice in his head manipulating him to go on a killing spree. You can even see a man at the funeral who looks a lot like the Postal 2 dude, and a woman who could either be the wife of Postal Dude Jr or his mother. The headstone in Postal 2 says he died in 1998, implying he died a year after his rampage in the asylum.
"oh boy i finally beat postal, i hope nothing absolutely traumatizing happens"
Burning hordes of innocent civilians is already pretty traumatizing
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I think the credits is the creepiest part because it shows ALL of the postal 1 dudes victims in this giant mutilated pile
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@@Local_Idiot853 there's even a child which is pretty fucked
I think at the end, when he realized the kids were just hallucinations, the gravity of the situation finally hit him, and he realized: Those people weren't sick, he was. He realized he really was crazy, and that he had just slaughtered hundreds of innocent people for no reason. He breaks down and is arrested and institutionalized.
he remembers his childhood, his good times where the modern life wasn't making him go postal, this is why he gets grounded by seeing those children. and, he gets locked into an asylum, not a jail.
edit: the proof that he doesn't starts to think that he is the bad guy is the line at the ending "he may consider himself as hero"
Yeah I don't buy that, I'm more convinced that he really did go through with it and it's just him not being able to process what he is doing, thus shattering his mind. It's fitting that this would be the even that would break his delusion, but be too little too late, he has committed one of the darkest deeds, and there is no turning back.
No, actually, they are real but the postal dude finds himself unable to harm any of the children in the place
He realized he was PSYCHO.
@@Sevatar883 this proves that even the postal guy has a soft spot for children
Postal 1:I gonna try to make a massacre of children
Postal 2: I'm going to buy milk for 5$
man 5$ ? thats a fraud
Sign my petition, dammit
who buys that milk?
Postal 4: BALLSACKS! BALLSACKS EVERYWHERE!
didn't the ending mean he couldn't go through it? Like he can't do something so at the time unthinkable and evil.
This ending is terrifying. Throughout the game, we get glimpses, images, into the mind of the postal dude. We see the world through his eyes specifically in the loading screens. Gruesome images of demons, hellfire, and the dead. A man as mentally unwell and utterly delusional as the postal dude should’ve been killed at the end of his journey… keeping him alive with the thoughts in his head is a fate much worse than death.
The saddest part of what you say is that precisely because of his madness, postal dude ended up being dehumanized, the psychiatrists at the asylum must have see him as a fascinating specimen, an object of study and they feel complete apathy for the suffering he feels by staying alive. "We may never know exactly what set him off but rest assured, we will have plenty of time to study him"
I think the main thing this game has over Hatred, is possessing greater nuance and depth, by NOT having a point. Or, not making one as clearly as Hatred's, which boils down to "Humanity sucks, you are evil, kill everyone." Classic edgy middle-schooler rhetoric, taken to the extreme with zero self-awareness. You shoot people, you blow up the city, you win, the end. Meanwhile, Postal is more about the delusion that there is a point to your killing, and then have the security in that ripped away, to the point that you--the player--don't know why you're doing it. Is it the mind altering substance, as the Dude believes? Is it a demon possessing him, or the townsfolk? Is it all some paranoid delusion? Did it even happen? Or some combination? In some ways, it feels like Postal is edgier than Hatred, but in the way that actually lends more to it, rather than taken away.
Hatred is honestly, clearly edgier. I mean Postal is made to make you feel bad and unconfortable. Postal has art with a background of a city you'd surely hate to live in, a loud, disturbing music. And the worst part? The original game barely had soundtrack that was "Fun" y'know. When you were on the levels shooting people there was no music.
@@greenman1200 I meant to refer to Postal as more 'edgy' as in more *effectively* edgy. I was drawing from this video ( th-cam.com/video/wrCxKfrrMBk/w-d-xo.html ) where it is dark, vulgar, raw, and has a sort of primal attitude to it, which constitutes something being edgy. But I feel another component to it is the ability to resonate with others--to really get into them.
Yeah, Hatred is more 'edgy' in the sense of it being vulgar, violent, and the like, but feels like it lacks that primal feeling to it, that allows it to come off as anything but childish.
Another example could be found in, say...Berserk (and I want to contrast it against Doom, but that'd probably piss off some active fans). It is grim, violent, vulgar, and has a primal fury in its protagonist--but it serves the story & themes effectively. It is about a man, who is destined by fate to die at the hands of demons--a fate he continually & constantly struggles against. And the visceral nature of the content effectively portrays how Guts is willing to fight, claw, and scream his way through every problem life inevitably throws at him.
Pardon my rambling. Thanks, if you read the whole way through.
@@nooneinparticular5256 I have no mouth and i have to scream is amazing
@@Elelicksa that's a great short+game.
The difference between Postal and Hatred isn't that one has a point and the other doesn't, they both have a point. The point is to shock. And not in a shallow way either. At the time when both games were released video game violence was a high topic, and Hatred was created in the defiance against the puritan busybody narrative that video games cause it, while Postal was less about the video game violence causing anything and more an examination behind the mentality of someone who would go, well, postal.
Even though they're similar, I wouldn't even consider them comparable. Both are in fact pieces of art that have very different statements that do not conflict with each other. They both do it through the same ways, too.
This is a really interesting plot if you look into it.
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@Joel gets bored and does a TH-cam Sooooooo like the redux ending then?
@junie!!!! then what the fuck is postal 2 then?!? Why did it go from this to HAHA I PISS ON YOU?!
@junie!!!! postal 2 is less about killing people and more like going through the process of going postal.
@@connordervoncyberlifegesen8529 no, postal 2 is more like a crazy world vs you type deal. You’re not inherently the problem in that game
The difference between postal and hatred is that hatred tries to make you feel cool and badass for the things you do. Meanwhile postal is just supposed to make you feel uncomfortable
No? Postal and Hatred are fun. Simple as.
@@PiroKUSS It has become more of a scary than a fun game, such cases when society puts pressure on a person and he starts shooting everyone are very common now.
@@dno734 Not for me. And I live in a very violent country.
@@PiroKUSS Russia ?
@@dno734 Mexico.
The voice isnt actually the postal dude, it is a demon inside him that makes him do these things, the postal dudes scream when caught on fire and at the end of rhe ending cutscene is his actual voice. The demon left him,and at that moment he broke down realising what he has done.
in the sound options the option for his voice is called "demon" further proving this
@@maxalexander2874 i also speculate postal 2 dude is the son of postal 1 dude since he is reffered to as postal dude junior and pisses on his dads grave
The Postal dude just may be the demon. Paranoid delusions my man.
@@maxalexander2874 It was confirmed that it's a demon and not Postal Dude speaking when one of the members of Running with Scissors was interviewed for Postal Redux.
@@shugafoo2847 In the latest version of postal 2, if you look to the left from the dads grave, you can see a grave titled "zombie dad" and he also died in 2002, which was the year the dlc came out for postal 1, if you piss on that grave, he comes out as a zombie (of course) with a machete, a blurry red t shirt and a big hole in his bottom chest. So that means postal dude junior had two dads?
Postal Dude's Laughter at the end of the credits is so Chilling...
Your pfp is chilling
@@FeddytheReal your profile picture is chilling
@@mcmayo7870 your profile picture is chilling
@@nipplecream3099 Welp in today's world my type of people are chilling, they are known as "furries".
@@starwolfcyberlight4546 i did not ask
Population pressure and the stress of modern life may cause an increase in violent tendencies. The urban environment is the incubator for all sorts of undesirable behaviors. However, much his atrocities disgust us, he may actually consider himself a hero. This is common among those who are referred to by the popular slang, "going postal". In his tortured mind, he may feel he was battling against impossible odds. It is not unusual for some individuals to believe that the entire fate of the world rest with them. In the end, our subject displays all the classic symptoms of a paranoid delusional. We may never know exactly what set him off but... Rest assured we have plenty of time to study him.
best fucking ending.
"Давление со стороны населения и напряженность современной жизни могло вызвать рост склонности к жестокости. Городская среда является инкубатором для всех видов нежелательного поведения. Однако, хоть его зверства и вызывают у нас отвращение, фактически, он может считать себя героем. Это часто встречается среди тех, кто использует популярное выражение "Going Postal". В его извращенном сознании он мог чувствовать, что боролся с системой. Это не редкость для подобных личностей - считать, что вся судьба мира лежит в их ладони. В конце-концов, у нашего пациента проявлены все симптомы, вызывающие параноидальное расстройство. Мы можем так никогда и не узнать, что же подтолкнуло его на это, но... хотя бы уверены, что у нас будет достаточно времени изучить его."
Thanks SO Much for this! I appreciate this a lot! :D
"A népesség nyomása és a modern élet stressze az erőszakos hajlam növekedését okozhatja. A városi környezet az inkubátora mindenféle nemkívánatos viselkedésnek. Annak ellenére, hogy az ő atrocitása minket undorít, valójában hősnek tekintheti magát. Ez gyakori azok között, akikre a népszerű szleng, a "going postal" hivatkozik. Kínzott elméjében érezheti, hogy lehetetlen esélyek ellen küzd. Nem szokatlan, hogy egyes egyének azt hiszik, hogy a világ teljes sorsa rajtuk áll. Végül a mi tárgyunk a paranoid téveszmének összes klasszikus tünetét mutatja be. Lehet, hogy soha nem tudjuk meg pontosan, mi indította el őt, de ... Biztos lehet benne, hogy rengeteg időnk van a tanulmányozására."
Stix N' Stones Well this ending also reminds me a whole lot of the end of the Movie “Falling Down.” No spoilers! See it for yourself. And you will see exactly what I mean.
MWHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAA!
POSTAL (1997) universe Dude: I see demons and I need to kill em all.
POSTAL 2 universe Dude: Killing is my everyday life, but I only do it for the sake of errends and let the bitch get off my back.
1:58 i really love that fucking scream, it's awesome!!
It's postal dude's scream btw
That kinda sounds like Half Life scientists
Thats just me stubbing my toe
@@solidaigis not it is from the bridge
i just wanna learn more about this postal series
but this ending is....holy shit
The rest of the series is actually nothing like this, also
Tangkwa the troublemaker girl
Postal: Horrific
Postal 2: Amazing and Hilarious
Postal 3: Horrifying
Postal 4: Horrifyingly Hilarious
Postal 2 and 4 are just vomit-spewing satite, to the point that it's almost slapstick, so don't worry.
@@HyperfixationWizard And of course, 3 doesn't exist.
the first game is the only one like this, the second is more dark comedy and is just a big "fuck you" to the newspeople complaining about the first being too violent (postal dude, jr. (presumably a different person than the postal dude in the 1st game, assuming redux's co-op ending isnt canon) even has a petition labelled "make whiny congressmen play violent videogames").
postal 3, they tried leaning into the mood postal 2 set up, the only good thing was the postal dude's lines, the rest of the game was shit.
postal 4 (which is currently in the "janky-ass beta") seems promising and may go back to what made postal 2 great and avoiding almost everything they did in postal 3.
So in the files for postal, there are two voices for the dude. 1 that refers to the postal dude, and the other called demon, both Voiced by different people. In this ending, there is a belief that we, the players, are the demon in the postal dudes mind, and that we are free to walk away, while the postal dude is imprisoned.
Better than Hatred ending
Hatered is just shit.
Postal is... somekind of psychopath's diary?
The thing is though, and something that people tend to forget about Postal, that you never actually have to kill unarmed or innocent people and you never get any reward for doing so IIRC. Only hostiles need to be killed to move on to the next level, and I'm pretty sure they start shooting you on sight even if you haven't attacked anyone yet.
That alone makes it a lot less "offensive" than usually portrayed, since you're theoretically acting in self-defense against an entire town that does appear to have gone violently insane just like the main character believes.
Yes, it's hard to know for sure what's meant to be real. Still, for the player it's an act of self-defense to kill anyone with a gun, as far as we know, which I still think changes the morality compared to how it's usually portrayed.
@@junhyeonglee863 hatred is not shit but postal had a better story
@MaxNeu14 Not only that but the Postal Dude had a gun in his hand so the police would ofcourse draw their gun on him, and in his "tortured mind" they meant to attack him without reason so he shot them before they shot him. Its like actual psychotic patients, they don't know they're psychotic...
I absolutely love this. No real THE END screen, just a screen showing the horrific rampage you’re gonna have to call “victory.”
The laugh at the end of the credits seals the whole thing. You didn’t win shit, _it_ did.
No, we are "it". the exact second the postal dude went postal, we were in control. we are the demon that encourages him. just a fun little theory.
The kids' god mode: ON
VAC Ban
@Not Cthulhu Bethesda made those kids invincible, didn't they?
they put in the
iamsolame code
@Loli exterminator lol
Younglings at Jedi Temple wish they had some too.
Im starting to realize that games which let you do bad stuff, only to get the main character imprisoned and having you go free are the most effective ones.
Yeah, I feel like it really lets you reflect on the things you've done by controlling said character.
There are 2 types of horror games in wich you are the monster
Doom eternal: you are the badass monster
Postal 1: you killed innocent people because "the earth" demanded it
This game is really good, I think the dated 90s pc game vibes actually add to dark feeling
and then in the next game he pisses
Imagine someone who has never heard of postal and they find this old ass game on a disk in the middle of nowhere and play it
It would be an actual fuckin gaming creepypasta hahaha
Much better that Redux ending. And I'm not about school shooting - even asylum scene was much better, scarier, and disturbing. Rick Hunter's voice sounds much more real, than Corey Cruise.
“Hell, I needed a vacation anyway” -Postal Dude
Population pressure and the stress of modern life may cause an increase in violent tendencies. The urban enviornment is the incubator for all sorts of undesirable behaviors. However, much his atrocities disgust us, he may actually consider himself a hero. This is common among those who are referred to by the popular slang, "going postal". In his tortured mind he may feel he was battling against impossible odds. It is not unusual for some individuals to believe that the entire fate of the world rests with them. In the end, out subject displays all the classic symptoms of a paranoid delusional. We may never know exactly what set him off but, rest assured we'll have plenty of time to study him.
Lmao I just realize postal dude is the one getting locked up instead of you (player), truly the greatest of narrative of all time.
Tbh I'm surprised there's not a mission where you escape from the facility after the credits.
Theres theory that some group you see in postal 2, were fans of dude sr. And broke him out
Can't kill children, Anakin Skywalker dislikes it.
The most hellish ending in gaming history.
It makes DOOM series look like Hello Kitty in comparison.
Vince desi has always been an absolute madman, love him and the team at RWS
The credits feel like a creepypasta game's credits to be honest
Just replied to a comment that said "the dated 90s computer game aesthetic adds to the vibe"
And I said "Imagine someone who has never heard of postal and they find this old ass game on a disk in the middle of nowhere and play it
It would be an actual fuckin gaming creepypasta hahaha"
WHY DID I WATCH THIS AT 4AM😭
The history of Postal 1 is totally confusing and has 2 versions of the story
I saw Postal 1 on several channels
and speak the first version of the story
others talk about the second
there is no logic
after all .... WHAT IS THE TRUE STORY OF POSTAL 1?
It is still not 100% clear what story is about. You were killing humans, the reason for it is still unclear, but you can say for sure that Postal dude had schizophrenia.
It is unclear why Postal dude was schizophrenic in first place.
Maybe there was a hatred plague, hinted in Redux version, that affected not only Postal dude but other people as well.
Maybe Postal dude is War Veteran with PTSD, as some players noticed newspapers with War veterans being declined from mental heal funding.
In any case, you killed a lot of people. Even if it was self defense, you were too good at it.
@@TheSpitefulSword well a manual you can get with the physical release says postal dude thinks that there is a plague that makes people go insane and the postal dude is the only sane man left. also the volume option for postal dude's voice is called demon. many think this ending is postal dude realising that he killed many people for nothing having a breakdown and being transferred to a mental asylum
Stylistically and thematically this is the most memorable game in the series.
1:03
Same citadel ambience in Half-Life 2.
It's weirder when you realise this came out before Half-Life 2.
Unwarranted Self Importance a
Unwarranted Self Importance j
Unwarranted Self Importance A lot of media has used this sample pack that I don't recall the name of made for horror soundtracks. A lot of the elements in the Postal OST are also in Half Life because of it.
Correct!
back when devs had balls
This scene, this scene is why Postal is a Misunderstood masterpiece
Postal 1 had a lot more artistic direction..
RWS drawing the line of acceptable violence at violence against children, hence the reason you see why postal dude can't even hurt them. In the revamp series is quite dark, instead this one we simply get the coffin because the related news is saturated to the point of numbness.
It seems even with three decade we still haven't figure out what cause the rampant violence. Inferiority complex? Over socialization? Social media can take the most of the blame obviously and for I fear what reason will appear for the next three decade.
POO HWA HWA HWA HAHAHAHAAAA
why is a game with such a wholesome ending rated M?
The Wizard of Oz: Wow! I woke up from that crazy thing that happened! I thought my house blew away to a magical land but I guess it was all a dream!
Return to Oz: 1:08
”So how demonic do you want this ending to be?”
”Yes”
This is a reminder that half life and postal is made together
wat
"Haha haha hahaha haha hahaha haha hahahaha"Cold way to to end the credits💀
did POSTAL 1 predict columbine?
+★ ww2sniper555 ★ Let's just hope they didn't.
Yes
***** They said. but, it´s that true. Doom was fictional. Postal is really similar to the tragedy.
yes, some columbine guys, one of them have a coat...
gud work rws
★ ww2sniper555 ★ nah
This is so depressing and dark... I love it
i'm glad postal dude got the help he needed and is a chill guy now (for the most part) :)
SPOILERS FOR POSTAL BRAIN DAMAGED:
this might actually be canon what the fuck?
Apperantly Postal 1 and Postal 2 is set in different universes.
@@QxCooL no, postal 2 dude is postal’s 1 son, it’s also confirmed in postal 4
1:40 dont know what that image shows but looks creepy af still
it's a dude apparently tied up in a bandage for the mentally ill. In Redux it looks more distinct
Postal 2:hehe cat goes brrrr
Postal 1:
What I don't understand is if he kills the children at the end or just imagines it, since the bullets and missiles go through them without hurting them
It was a hallucination. Basically the dudes "oh shit, i was gonna kill kids? What have i done?" Moment
2:08 🕺🏽
Full on proof that Postal dude #1 has schizophrenia.
So I hear some music from Half Life in this scene, and some voices from Max Payne
the most disturbing part is that school shootings like this actually happened.
we are slowly making oversaturated, disturbing, desensitized, overexaggerated meant to look bad and horrible versions of our world into a reality.
if this continues humanity might not stick around for much longer.
Goddam I knew postal 1 was dark but the background sounds during the guy talking jesus it's kinda dark
absolutely horrifying
The way that some people talk about this ending, I don't think that many realize that "The Elementary School" is not an actual level that you just can't progress in, it's a cinematic.
love how the guy did the subtitles in POSTAL letters
1:40
I always wonder why they replaced the weird bat demons with a close up of the dudes face in redux
they were pretty cool imo
If you look closely, you can still see his eye and ear. It's the same close-up, but in Redux, it's much LESS heavily distorted and overall cleaner.
Here you don't know what exactly you're looking at, and that makes it more disturbing.
Its his head, but all tied up. It's the same image.
This is like a promotion for some crappy 90s death metal band
One of many reasons why the 90s death metal is awesome.
I will always love that credits music
Neat. The demon's laughter at the end like he played this dude all the way
0:23 I CAN HER THE QUAKE II OST RIFF COMING THERE
the visuals are fucked up. even more so in Redux.
Is this even allowed killing kids? The reason kids are not in GTA is because of that but I don't know this is a really weird game with a really weird ending to it.
Vince Desi has said in multiple interviews that even though he is an “anything goes” kind of guy he has absolute disgust for child abuse and rape. So the ending of the game has the kids on the playground be invincible against the Postal Dude. But in the Redux version of the game they changed the ending almost entirely where the Dude stumbles upon a funeral instead.
@@Genrevideos Presumably, it's his funeral. As the casket gets lowered into the ground, the "hostiles" counter goes from 1 to 0, implying that he was the true and only "hostile" all along. Not really sure if it's an improvement or not. Definitely interesting to say the least.
For a game all about violence its weird that fallout 1 and 2 both had child killing even though its a rpg
Why didn't Running With Scissors post the Postal 1 ending into Postal Re-
Yeah, now I know why....
0:56 anyone hl2?
I hear that in GOD of war 3
Hearing postal dude scream in the ending really makes me sad
Why he screamed at the end
@@Elijah-k7z idk :(
@@Im-apple69 wait why was he locked up
@@Elijah-k7z he was mentally ill and killed alot of people claiming that he "saved" this place
Has anyone realised that the song or the ambience sounds familiar to Half Life 1 Suspense 05? Listen carefully 0:19-0:29
( th-cam.com/video/4jSx2r9c7cU/w-d-xo.html )
Yeah, it's an audio sample. Used here. Used in Half-Life. Was also used in a track in Quake 2.
This will be the first game I get when I get my gaming pc since it’s free and tf2 and cs:go :p
did you get your gaming pc yet?
On a side note, being a Chrsitian and all one thing that has always stuck with me is my brother saying that being mentally ill individuals are corrupted by demons in one way or another. All that festering negativity can invite unholy guests to twist your thoughts around. Not my words, of course. Only his take on the matter at hand.
postal
postal
postal
postal
Going postal
postal
I love his insanity end ❤
how to pass the Post Office at this end because I end up with a grave behind a white church ???
0:20 I've heard this part of the track in another videogame
quake 2 the reckoning
Yeah no idea why no one else is talking about this
the same in HL2 aswell.
Having an imaginative mind sucks, because now all i think about is how much they treated Dude like a lab rat after this emding, testing his skills and anger with inhumane tests
Does anyone know what the fuck this is supposed to be? 1:40
Postal dude face
Postal dude's head strapped in a device idk what is that
That ending song is really cool. =P
So the postal 2 dude is a demon?
he is schizophrenic
I've heard many conflicting theorys, but one of them states that postal 2 dude is actually postal 1 dudes son.
We need another 2D game which is just a Sequel to POSTAL 1
Excuse me, can I use a little fragment of this video for a video of mine (A retrospective) ? All credits will be on the video and description, link included
Sure
@@ShotgunBastard thank you!
Population pressure and the stress of modern life may cause an increase in violent tendencies. The urban environment is the incubator for all sorts of undesirable behaviors. However, much his atrocities disgust us, he may actually consider himself a hero. This is common among those who are referred to by the popular slang, "going postal" . In his tortured mind, he may feel he was battling against impossible odds. It is not unusual for some individuals to believe that the entire fate of the world rest with them. In the end, our subject displays all the classic symptoms of paranoid delusional. We may never know exactly what set him off but... Rest assured we have plenty of time to study him.