Velma: How NOT to Write A Main Character
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Lol very Very terrible terrible Velma series deserve it fire 🔥 fire 🔥 fire 🔥 fire 🔥 fire 🔥 fire 🔥 fire 🔥 fire 🔥 fire 🔥
Love the honesty
Ngl the best scene in this entire show was when that cop ran her over.
Every scene where she was in pain, was chef's kiss
@@BobBob-tr7wi I think Cindy would love to do that as she seems to really hate herself, SO why not have her try and "kill" her self insert.
thats probably universally agreed on by the majority and thats amazing
That was a beautiful moment
And when Norville called her out on her shit.
Harley Quinn, in her show, actually CARES about her fellow super villain friends. That's how weirdly messed up this is. Harley, who's a notable VILLAIN, actually gives a damn, Velma, who's supposed to be the HERO, acts incredibly scummy.
Even outside of Harley Quinn's show, many of the villains in DC are parts of teams and some of them end up genuinely caring for one another.
If Harley Quinn met Velma, she would immediately bash her face in without a second glance.
@@valentinkambushev4968 I was gonna say that Captain Cold is actually super cool to his fellow Rouges and even has a certain respect for his enemies.
the comics show both her actually mentally unstable side as well as her human flaws and caring side so when seeing those parts of her represented it made me realize she wasn't a villain and more of an anti-hero/morally grey character. it's why as someone who liked Harley years before the 2016 Suicide Squad and her show, I thought it was neat seeing her end up in the anti-hero path later on in the show. the show captures certain parts of her character better than 2016 Suicide Squad did and WAY better than how everyone's being represented in Velma. I'm so glad to have seen your comment and agree with you.
What baffles me is how Mindy is also behind the show Never Have I Ever. Never Have I Ever could've fixed and improved on certain aspects yet it still remains a show that includes likeable characters, not everything being black and white, funny moments, representation of several topics, a storyline where the main character still has more to her personality and not just 100% trauma, and opportunities for the audience to have all kinds of thoughts and differing opinions on the characters which is more thought-provoking than Velma. How did Mindy contribute to Never Have I Ever yet also contribute to the dumpster fire that is Velma?!? It's as if Mindy is an entirely different person in each show.
They managed to make the Joker a loving step-father, while these people made Mystery Inc look like the reason aliens won't talk to us.
Velma didn’t just fail it’s main character, it failed everyone involved. Especially it’s audience.
It failed everything. It failed the IP, it failed the original creator, it failed by every conceivable metric
@@SamanthaLaurier seriously even the laziness for the original show like its terrible due to no money and reusing of assets but this this has no reason to be this bad.
Poor animators.
even High Gaurdian Spice had some good characters.
@@Ruby3P you all right
They wanted to make Velma a Daría clone so badly without understanding why people liked Daria
This show is Daria for people whom never watched Daria and are Rick and Morty fans.
Yeah, I can definitely see that angle.
It's like someone looked at Daria, Harley Quinn and Rick & Morty, and the only thing they got from it was "the protagonist is an ahole"
They did a better job on Mystery Incorporated.
I'm glad I'm not the only one who got failed!Daria vibe from this. Like really bad impression of what Daria was.
The irony is that they're trying for Velma to be depicted as a fish out of water surrounded by negative stereotypes and fools, when she actually is the worst product of the environment she criticises. She is shallow, toxic, playing for advantage and hates anyone doing better than her. She is the worst individual in the show, and the fact Kaling celebrates this character shows how radioactive she is as a real person.
Whats even more ironic and telling about this show is the fact that Velma is an indian girl with insecurity issues.With her voice actress being indian herself.WOW thats good writing
@@Tanaka-kun9313 Or the fact that for all of the shade the show throws at rich people, Mindy Kaling herself is from a rich family, graduated from an Ivy League college and never stepped foot inside of a public school. She is everything her self-insert version of Velma derides in Fred.
I think I've seen this comment before.
You forgot that she’s a racist who is herself always bringing up race as either a joke or a jab (usually the latter) 😒😒😒
@@redpanda6497 me too. Something fishy is going on here 🤔
With this Velma thing, they would have made it about a fan girl from the "mystery gang" (who would also be called Velma) who tries to solve her own mysteries Velma-style (which doesn't work for her at first) and then with help of friends would form their own group and use their own way of solving crimes
you know that sounds infantly better hell done right it could be better than some of the scooby doos
@griffy ye shut up bot
I would have enjoyed that 100 time more than this train wreak.
I'd watch that.
THAT'S WHAT I'VE BEEN SAYING! I thought that was what this show was about as they would also cover everyone's different races and auras. They just weren't the same people physically and spiritually.
I love that Mindy said she wanted to make a show based on "the one who actually solved the mysteries" and then the show has literally everyone else solving her mystery
For real I think the problem is though they clearly cannot write a mystery/ who did it. Mindy need to sick to sitcoms and college dramas.
Didn't ths live-action movie point out how Velma is the one who solves the mysteries but gets pushed out of the limelight because of Fred?
@@randompromises1038 actually it indicated that Fred took the credit for everything that everyone else does. Velma takes care of the scientist aspect: DNA etc. Fred is the trapper and planner. Daphne, shaggy and Scooby take over everything else, typically being the ones finding clues, bait, and/or actively catching the monster. the live action just showed how popularity can change people which makes it so much more impactful when the gang reunites with new skills aka Daphne's black belt for example
Honestly Mindy should be arrested for even existing! I feel bad for her parents who have give birth to such a disgusting ungrateful waste of space like her for a daughter. I hope that they disowned her already.
You know what's funny? All I'm hearing from the 2nd half is how everyone BUT Velma is good at solving mysteries and together they'd make a killer mystery solving gang
It sounds like Bojack Horseman where all the supporting characters try to be better people while the main character gets worse, except, unlike this show, that was intentional.
@@michaelstrong5383 Better Call Saul kinda goes by the same line, until _Fun and Games_ (prior to Breaking Bad)
@@michaelstrong5383Except she somehow manages to be a WORSE person than Bojack
It’s funny how Fred, the actual strawman that you’re supposed to hate more than Velma, is more likable than her simply due to the fact that his bad actions are consistently not being excused by the writers.
It’s as if the audience will sympathize with those who got the consequences of their actions (and getting abused by the others) more than those who got protected by plot armor.
And he's the only one whose behaviour you can understand due to his background (being regularly abused by his parents and expected to be as "manly" as his dad)
And he also... well... develops.
@@dmaxwell910901 somewhat....honestly if the mystery inc meet the velma group they would honestly try and show how toxic their velma is am ultimately make them realize that she herself is as shallow and radioactive as the environment she so criticizes. Utimately cementting her role as outcast actually valid.
@@hellonokay1925 Well true. The only one in the main cast who isn't a trash person is Norville, but even he needs SERIOUS therapy for his self esteem and confidence (poor guy lets himself get walked over), and to just cut Velma out of his life permanently.
I was immediately lost at Velma cheating off anyone’s homework much less Norville’s (Shaggy). That’s how I know they didn’t get the spirit of these characters
Right? Isn't Velma supposed to be the *_SMART_* character???
Exactly! Velma’s knowledge is a core character trait- but she is no smarter than the average person in this series- she’s not smart at all!! It’s insane
_Looks at Fred:_ Look at how they massacred my boy.
I don't even recognize Norville or Daphne, who were my absolute FAVORITES.
Makes me so glad that a show like Smiling Friends exists. While it does have dark jokes, it's one of the few adult cartoons where the main characters are likable. Even Charlie, who is written as a cynical person, is still a pretty chill guy.
You mean Phily?
He gets freaked out at the right moments.
Like I'd be annoyed too if I wanted a burger and then got legally press-ganged into a murder investigation.
I like Charlie. I can relate to his laziness and pessimism but he will still help out the best he can. His best moment was actually when the Frowning Friends show everyone the brutal cruelties of reality to their audience. While Pim tells him not to look, Charlie barely seems to react, saying he has seen the worst things on the internet. That is what a cynic is in real life, they know the world is a piece of crap at times, but they don't let it bother them, they just keep living life.
It also helps that the show is actually funny.
Charlie is the guy who knows that a hollow smile is a frown on the inside. He's the guy that gets at the core root of a problem.
This is going to be a weird comparison, but Velma makes me miss The Amazing World of Gumball, in the way that they handle meta jokes and satire.
In Gumball, when they would make jokes about modern topics in different episodes (ie shipping culture in “The Shippening” or JRPGs and Gaming culture in “The Console”) it never felt like they were just pointing out clichés just for the hell of it, but were actually just poking fun at them without actually trying to insult its audience.
(Plus Gumball was actually funny)
It's sad when a kids cartoon about a talking blue cat and an orange goldfish with legs handles meta jokes better than the majority of adult cartoons these days.
@@michaelstrong5383 Most children cartoons are made by people who are passionate about their craft and don't belittle their audience.
Yeah even the legend Alex Meyers made that connection
@@michaelstrong5383 Mostly Rick and Morty does them poorly. They think breaking the fourth wall is a substitute for jokes. Family Guy can make meta jokes funny. One of my favorites is when Peter jumps in the air at the end of the episode. There is a freeze frame and he is freaking out because he is stuck.
Plus, in the case of the Console, they were clearly celebrating JRPGs as well as poking fun at them. Like, some of those jokes were clearly made by someone who enjoyed RPGs or they wouldn't have known to make them. The audience is meant to laugh along with the game fans, not at them.
My main problem with the show is that they turned Velma from a "kind and adorkable genius that loves solving mysteries" into a "racist, sexist, rude, entitled, bad friend and terrible Karen"
Yeah Hbo's Velma needs to be erased from existence all together so we can forget this horrible crime to humanity. Seriously screw this show and screw the creator who came up with this trash!
Fred is the best character, yet they tried to make him look like the worst. He's the only one with any form of growth as a person through the entire show...
I know it's so weird the show always constantly makes it look like he's the worst when he's the best character. In fact I'm going to say it. I like Fred's character
I don’t think they ended on him being the worst. I really think there was a level of “mutuality” amongst the cast by the end episode even if they all hated each other.
And still, he's a butchering of Fred's much superior original character.
Like, Fred's supposed to be a lovable himbo. OG Fred is a golden retriever in human form.
Agree, Fred is just the best character in this show. I mean yes he's not fantastic by any measure, but at least he goes through an actual arc and never does anything awful like, I don't know, sell drugs, twerk over a dead body, or try to nice guy his way into a girl's pants. He's just an immature sheltered boy who doesn't know any better. It just feels like because we're supposed to hate him for his race and gender, so the writers didn't even try to actually make him unlikable.
Meanwhile, the rest of the cast is awful, manipulative and unsympathetic, but they are not white men and as such, are supposed to be "funny" when they insult, belittle and use each other. What a mess
@@Megafreakx3 I mean he did have smex with brains. But besides that he didn't do anything
Why do we keep losing actual good adult cartoons like Final Space, Close Enough, Inside Job and Tuca and Bertie and we get this instead?
The artstyle might help. Seriously American cartoons, find a better style.
Infinity Train was canceled for this.
I know that's not explicitly an adult cartoon, but I'm still pretty bummed about that.
@@falconeshield SERIOUSLY!!! they need to remember the acclaim of avatar, look at the rise of anime and get a fucking clue
@@michaelstrong5383 wait they cancelled infinity train for velma?
Apparently... I don't fucking know. They probably think that good shows are bad and vise versa in the Bad shows.
Velma's character certainly suffers from the fact that she has no arc. She's mean/abusive to everyone, believes nothing is ever her fault, and takes the ones close to her for granted to the point that she gets upset when they don't do what she wants when she wants. Even when certain characters like Norville or Daphne try to cut ties with her, she ends up winning them back with little to no effort on her part, thus depriving her of having to learn any real lesson or bother to improve herself. By the end, the gang are still barely considered friends so there wasn't much gained from the whole mystery, character-wise.
@Bluespirit Exactly. The plot either rewards Velma for her behavior or doesn't do enough to punish her for it.
Velma is a show about a narcissist who is awarded for being a narcissist
@Bluespirit Hot take: if it were me, or probably anyone else, I’d also pick my mom and saving her over my almost equally asshole friends.
Motherfucking Diary of a Wimpy kid does this thing better
@@abubakrakram6208 except she didn't take her mom over her friends( who are not really asshole. They did come and help her in every juncture). She picked the mom over the dad and kicked him out of the house he built with his money and also his new girlfriend and the new born baby
6:56 No, Velma isn't right. She comparing the reaction between her missing mother and a SERIAL KILLER preying on minors. At that point no one had any proof whether her mother was taken or had left her family, which seemed more likely given the reveal of Velma and her father's treatment of Diya.
I understand what they were trying to invoke, but like all their other points, this one falls flat.
True, her mother left the family while a serial killer was on the loose.
Imagine Velma moaning about her missing mom to get all the attention while Ted Bundy or Jeffrey Dahmer were on a killing spree, that’s kinda selfish, isn’t it?
It’s Always Sunny in Philadelphia might be the only comedy show where every character is an obnoxious and horrible person that’s actually good and funny. I don’t know how they managed to do it but they did it. It’s annoying how every single “adult” cartoon follows that formula nowadays and is terrible at it.
Funny how Glenn Howerton (Dennis himself) is in both shows.
@@michaelstrong5383 And Dennis is the worst of the worst in my opinion
Well, part of it is just better writing in general, but the show also understands that the protagonists are absolute trash and that you want to watch them suffer. It doesn't really try to make them sympathetic and it doesn't rely on you wanting them to succeed. The fun comes from watching these awful people fuck themselves over purely through their own bad decisions. Velma takes glee in how unpleasant its cast is but then makes a plot that relies on you rooting for their success to be engaging. At no point do you watch Velma and hope she succeeds.
Mah dude, watch Bob's Burgers and thank me later.
Also Solar Opposites for the Wall Saga.
Arguably Will & Grace also walked that line.
When it comes to "hate watching" or purposely making something bad, I'm reminded of the saying from the movie *"Igor"* , "I'd rather be a good nobody, than an evil somebody."
Is making something that gets nothing but hatred from people the only way you can get attention? Is it worth it?
what was the movie Igor like? Is it also good or bad? I remember kid me seeing bits and pieces of it, especially when everyone was booing and throwing things at the creation during her performance, but that's about it.
@@corncobbob2326 the movie is overall forgettable however its good for a nostalgia watch
I watched that as a kid and I thought I was dreaming for years
@@corncobbob2326 It’s a movie about a corrupt government that rewards evil science and violence. Igors (a group of hunch back people) are destined by society to be henchmen of evil scientists and the Igor protagonist wants to show the world he can be his own evil scientist. He creates a Frankenstein woman for the purpose of fighting but she’s against evil. Basically helps him to realize that the government is evil and kills the king. And bam. World peace.
@@radiokitty9007 sounds neat I'll give it a go
Velma's biggest flaw:
EVERYTHING
It's second biggest flaw was EVEN MORE SOMEHOW!!
@drmanhattan5970 The more hate it gets the more seasons it gets. Just like Big Mouth and TTG.
I watched 10 minutes of velma and immediately had to go rewatch all of mystery incorporated in order to cleanse my brain 😂
Mindy's Velma really is just a much, much worse version Mystery Incorporated.
This show *_WISHES_* it was half as good as Mystery Incorporated.
@@michaelstrong5383 it wishes it was half as good as the original barbra show
I've been watching it for the first time... It's so obvious Mystery Incorporated is the only Scooby series Mindy and Charlie Grandy have seen... but they had no idea what made it so good.
Also been watching Be Cool Scooby Doo and even Scooby-Doo and Scrappy-Doo. Amazing to see that Scrappy is no longer the most hated thing in the Scooby franchise.
Velma is the parking lot scene from the Simpson's Christmas special, maybe there is a winning ticket hidden in the massive piles of garbage, but the thing they really needed was a dog
6:57. Different circumstances. Velma’s mom was a fully grown adult who ran out on her family. The victims are young high school students getting murdered via having their brains removed and their bodies stuffed in random places. I’m pretty sure one getting a bigger reaction is quite reasonable.
This! I don't know why he said the girls where "going missing", becouse that's not what's happening! These aren't two different missing person cases! Velmas mom is a missing person case, the girls are murder cases. Gigantic difference!
Exactly. This isn't "missing white girl" syndrome. This is a case of Velma making the murders all about her.
yeah, that was kinda rubbing me the wrong way. Like, yeah, Velma's missing mom is important, but it's been a COLD case file for a couple of years by that point and the girls getting murdered was happening in the now. Which, like you said, Velma's mom also heavily implied she ran off while the current thing is girls getting murdered.
Thank you, and the girls that were killed weren't even all white so it was really stupid to even bring up that point.
hell, I feel like it could have made a much better point about missing white woman syndrome if a bunch of girls of color went missing first, and the show had led us through trying to find them without the help of the police, only for the cops to get involved the MOMENT they find out one of the victims was a white girl.
You REALLY helped me realize that getting angry at Velma isn't worth it. At all.
It's a bad show. And instead of ragging on it constantly, one should just...let it go. The best attention to give something you hate is NO attention.
i thought sarcastic chorus sad it wasnt bad or good
Yeah. it was funny to laugh at for like the first day, and now I'm over it
“The only winning move is not to play”
@@aWERFRGT6545BGFG I think of it as "it's a bad show, but there's much worse out there that people don't really talk about, so people aren't shxt-talking it only because it's a bad show". Most bad shows don't get the light of day cuz, well, they're so bad that nobody cares to watch them. As for what Sarcastic Chorus said, it sounds to me like there are good points (or at least relatively good ones), but it's still bad overall.
@@jackychen7769Honestly other then some characters who deserve to be on a better show and the animation what's there that is even good in Velma?
Mindy is the sole definition of the word "Privilege" itself. She grew up in a upper class, went to an ivy league college & never had to struggle in her life to get where she's today now. She made Velma herself insert but this version of Fred is actually HER.
I find it funny that Fred, the character they intended to be the annoying punching bag and a "take that" to white male privilege, is largely agreed upon to be the most likable character in the show.
He honestly reminds me of Aster from High Guardian Spice.
I love him so much. He was given the best jokes
Reminds me of the Mario Movie I saw last time. They wanted to make Peach look badass and everything but she didn't had any weaknesses, just another strong female ,,I can do everything" Character. Mario was more relatable because he actually needed to work for the skill
@@darkwolf7969 for once I kind of agree with the guys who had gripes about Princess Peach. Don't get me wrong, I love strong female characters but if they're written solely to be "subversive" to the damsel in distress archetype that we honestly don't see nearly as often anymore as we used to (not to say it doesn't happen still, it definitely does) then what else is the character good for except to send a message?
@@randompromises1038 I don’t know, she didn’t do most of the fighting, and never disparaged people, only encouraged them.
The concept of having the scooby doo gang be set in a rated r setting is a good idea cause I mean cmon people in monster costumes killing people and showing the deaths with the gang trying to solve it would’ve been good but then we got this garbage.
The Supernatural crossover has already shown it can be down right, this show just fails on so many levels. And if you renamed the characters and change there clothes this would be pretty much its own thing without it having anything to do with Scooby Doo.
I actually had an idea for a serious murder mystery set in the 1960s
They should of made it a horror murder mystery show where the gang has their normal personalities but when shit gets more serious, velma questions what’s happening until the killer killed most of the gang except velma, 30 years later she’s old and bitter ( you fill in the blanks )
I have never watched an episode from this show and I’m proud of it. I’ve just followed MoistCritikal’s advice and let other people hate-watch it for me.
It’s better to at least watch one episode imo because then no one would be able to call you a sheep who just leached onto a opinion
@@George_Fl0yd some things are so blatantly and apparently bad you don't need to.
I didn't need to play no man's sky on day one to know it was bad
@@George_Fl0yd Umm…no. I’ve seen clips from it and it in no way appeals to me whatsoever. And no one is a “sheep” because they choose not to watch something that everyone says is terrible. I don’t feel like wasting my time.
@@philly_sports1558 Bruh why did you take offense to that? My guy I didn’t call you a sheep I said that someone might call you a sheep for that 🤦🏾♂️.
@@restfulori212 true, plus their Brains are the size of a Lego stud
I love how being a "strong independent woman" is basically synonymous to being either a snarky sarcastic and degrading bitch to everyone, and/or a lesbian.
No in betweens.
Velma seems to have "Protagonist Centered Morality", a very rookie mistake to do, I might add. For those who don't know what that means, essentially, its when a show, episode, movie, ect. says the protagonist is in the right, simply because they're the protagonist. Another good example of the same issue is in a lot of post-movie episodes of Spongebob, where Spongebob did some pretty horrible things, yet the show said he was in the right, because he's the protagonist.
Wow that sucks.
I mean, yes and no.
I think the writers know that Velma is not the best person. In the episode where Velma tried to humiliate Daphne in front of the whole school, she was called out for being wrong. However, the level of writing has the depths of a kiddie pool. We don't see what fuels Velma's behavior. We don't see why she'll demean, manipulate, or insult anyone (regardless of if they're friends or foes). She treats her only friend Norville like garbage, and we don't get any explanation as to why. The season finale made it clear that Velma was treating Norville wrong, but we get no resolution to their conflict and no introspection as to why she treated him this way.
Sarcastic Chorus said it best, Velma is Rick and Morty combined, only with their worst habits and tendencies and none of the charm.
@@ThatGuy-jj3kz i think the problem is that she doesn't really suffer much for her actions. Like that episode you mentioned about Daphne, she didn't really do anything to earn the apology. Instead of doing things to earn her apology, she just gets it. In fact, she even asked for one back. Episode 4 where the girls confront her and say her views on feminity is even more restricted than hers, the real lesson she should have learned is not to be quick at judging people and that there is more to them than their exterior. Instead she learns a lesson like every girl, including herself, is beautiful in their own way. It is apparent because she does judge people quickly even after episode 4. In episode 7, where she dresses as a man, instead of her learning that men also have problems, she was just proven right that men are entitled and privileged. Even the last episode where she and Norville were seperated, you could have a heartfelt scene with Norville and Velma before he leaves for school. Instead, she just says i love you by voicemail and he suddenly comes to help her.Even the moment where Fred's mom died, every other character is depressed except Mindy who was twerking while covered in her blood. How can anyone even be friends with her when she does that? The problem is that, the show acknowledges that she has flaws, but never really improves her . In fact, she either gets what she wants or she is right. If you watch anime and abridged series, there is a video series on youtube called sao abridged, that did an amazing job with a flawed protagonist. Hell, it's always Sunny is the best example of a show about a**holes. It works because the show acknowledges them as a**holes and they do suffer.
@@lookingforlove839 I agree. Every time Velma (the character) "learns" a lesson or apologizes to her friends, the show resets her character, and she goes on to be a b*tch again. It makes me feel like her attempts to be "sincere" are hollow at best and manipulative at worst when she goes back into a-hole mode to everyone again. I believe the show "tried" to explain her reason for being a bitch to the entire town because no one cared about finding her mom. She internalized that to believe she was right and everyone was wrong. The show never confronts this, and even as the season ends, she continues to be an *ss to everyone. She's given every opportunity to demean everyone but never once allowed her soft side (if she has one) to round out her edginess. She's the pizza cutter meme (all edge, but no point).
I believe the writers wanted to be like Family Guy, The Simpsons, South Park, and Rick and Morty, where groups of characters are mean to each other. There are many reasons why Scooby-Doo does NOT mix with adult animation humor. Still, the main reason why the show doesn't gel with the adult genre is the characterization, and you can't do standalone episodes and a serialized season simultaneously.
However, what makes the show more mind-boggling is Velma's arc flips like a revolving door, but the other characters are allowed to grow.
Norville: Started as a simp and beta male (in the show's own words) but learns to respect himself and know when to stand up for himself.
Daphne: Started off as a generic mean girl and has family issues but goes on to learn that popularity isn't everything and has a deeper bond with her moms.
Fred: Started off as a boy who needed his mommy and was seen as weak because he wasn't a man like his father. However, he becomes somewhat mature and no longer lives under his parents' shadows for success.
Am I saying that these arcs were done well? No, but it shows the writers had a basic understanding of character arcs, and it blows my mind that Velma wasn't given a personal arc that wasn't just "I need to find my mom".
Obviously, I'm putting way more thought into the show than the creators.
The show very rarely says she’s wrong and she still sucks. Fred is ironically the least hatable specifically because the show doesn’t excuse his shitty actions.
I hate how Velma can’t stop whining about white privilege but can’t see her own privileges, she acts like she’s living in the 50s but she’s a modern day woman living in a 1st world country, they’re middle/upper middle class family (her father is a lawyer), she has the freedom to be AND do whatever she wants (seriously disrespecting Indian parents and not getting punished? bro) Mindy can’t write likable characters even if her life depended on it
That’s actually Mindy’s life IRL. She lacks self-awareness of how good she has it plus, she never had to work a day in her life. Everything was handed to her, including her first gig on the Office.
Kinda reminds me of the Princess from Twisted: The Untold Story of a Noble Vizier, except the Princess is likable and the musical is fantastic.
I thought her family was broke???
@@rawfermews4186 Nah, she comes from large amounts of wealth.
6:58 The part about “missing white girl syndrome” and how Velma is right to call the crowd out rubs me the wrong way for a few reasons-
1. Velma’s mom, as seen in the flashback, WILLINGLY disappeared without a trace
2. Velma’s mom disappeared almost a decade ago, meanwhile the continuous murders of teenage girls is happening currently, of course they’re gonna pay more attention to that
3. The first girl ISN’T WHITE
4. Velma’s mom is a full grown women who willingly walked out on everyone. The murder victims are literal high school kids.
The scene isn’t Velma being in the right and everyone is just telling her to shut up, it’s Velma getting upset about people not focusing all their attention on someone who’s been gone for years, and is trying to make the situation about her.
Especially when the audience presumably contains grieving family members of the victims and parents who are terrified for their children's safety. Time and place, Velma.
Well, two years ago. Even then, I agree that the more recent murders of youngsters is logically more pressing than the disappearance of some adult nobody (most people in Crystal Cove clearly don't know about Diya).
"Best looking Scooby Doo show" Even though the art direction and animation are the best thing about this series, I have to pull out my "Um, actually" on this one. I genuinely think Mystery Incorporated from the 2010s looks just as good in atmosphere and design.
Yeah, that was one take I didn't agree with. The art style is okay at best.
I think it has to do with the shading and stuff, something I think MI didn't do as much. While I do enjoy the style too, I do kind of prefer Mystery Incorporated still.
I agree the animation is the only good thing this show has going for it, but to call it the "Best looking Scooby-Doo show" is giving it too much credit.
I love how every video I've watched of people criticizing Velma varies so much. Some focus on criticizing the voice acting of Velma, some on the character, some on the humor, some on the plot, and it keeps on going. This is like the opposite of Breaking Bad, and I love it.
This show doesn't deserve to be hate-watched, it deserves to fade off into obscurity until it's forgotten.
Didn’t mystery incorporated do the Velma being kinda mean better? It had a sappho relationship with hot dog water and presented much better.
Also I remember a lot of people who watched that show being disappointed that Velma acted like that but are probably grateful that it didn’t turn out like this.
I also think if they wanted to make Velma mean they could have, but instead of making daphne the cliche mean girl have her be the good person, and Velma thinks she being bullied because daphne calls her out on her crap.
One nice thing about this show's failure is that it got people to appreciate Mystery Incorporated (and Be Cool Scooby Doo) a lot more.
I really didn't like Mystery Incorporated's Velma for the reason of her being rude and cynical. Everyone else's personalities pretty much stayed the roughly same, while Velma did not feel like Velma at all. Velma as a character has always been a kind, slightly dorky, intelligent person and they changed that in Mystery Incorporated. But THIS Velma??? No thank you. So so so much worse.
Genuine congrats, in 2 sentences you came up with a more compelling character and more subversive dynamics than it seems like this show managed in its entire run. I would actually watch a show that did that. Maybe not with Velma and Daphne of Scooby-Doo because it feels very out of character for them, but it could have worked for the sort of show they wanted to make here, which was clearly never meant to be about the actual Scooby-Doo characters at all.
Can we just call this version of Velma Mindy? Every other version of velma can have the name Velma due to them resembling the original so well, they deserve to be called Velma, but this version... calling her Velma just feels so wrong as she is more like Mindy, her creator, compared to the lineage of Velmas before her.
Mindy is her name
@@Mole-Esther oh thanks, I keep on forgetting it’s Mindy, not Cindy
oh, I got an idea! Kinda like how evil counterparts get names close to the orginal version, we can take the start of Mindy's name and slap it on the end, making this (evil) version Velmi. Now, Velmi might sound like a lazy change, but it's symbolic of how lazy Mindy was.
@@rottencandy2675plus, Velmi might be the better name to take, seeing that Mindy Kaling very unfortunately shares the same name as Mindy Cohn, who is THE iconic Velma voice of the 2000s until 2015, when Kate Micucci took over the role
The show did give a workable alternative in "Vermin Dorkley".
I genuinely hate the whole 'Nerd's Revenge' sort of character where they make the nerdy or geeky character absolutely insufferable or mean but still wanna have a misunderstood victim complex when they end up being outcasts. It's getting so rare to see nerdy characters who are just passionate about their interests without being patronizing or elitist about it.
You know this show burned all goodwill fast when Velma and Daphne kissed and the general reaction was nothing but groans and side-eyes. It's almost impressive.
High school, undercut with murder mystery, the main character is an unlikable person who grows over the course of the show and is obsessed with both solving the mysterys and a personal case relating to her family that goes back much farther than the show's beginning.
Wednesday is everything this show wanted to be.
. . .I've found one of the correctest takes in this section.
Whenever you think Velma is going to learn a lesson- she just doesn’t
Even when she says she did
Honestly, the popular girls going "no bitch, we are pretty becouse WE WANT TO BE pretty" was the only good thing this show has done so far.
I'm so sick of people treating those who just like beeing "stereotypicaly" atractive as lesser and pick me girls. Contrary to most peoples believes, girls don't do that stuff to atrackt boys -.- We just like pretty things, including ourselfe! And everyone has their own view of "pretty" that they want to archieve! Just becouse one doesn't aprove of someone elses view of "pretty" shouldn't mean they get a freepass to undermine that persons ability to make decitions for themself. So yeah, the popular girls pushing back and going "fuck you" was the one thing I liked in that episode.
(Also , most beauty standards people asociate with beeing female, actually come from other girls. Not from man. If you want to call those poison, which they verry much can be, than you have to call out the acurate poison mixer: other women. We are feeding that poison to ourselfe.)
I think it depends on the person and situation tbh. I'm definitely the type of person who dresses nice on a day to day basis and likes to wear fun makeup for special events, but I'm doing this because I enjoy looking nice- if I'm not dressed as well one day I'll feel a little crummy- I enjoy looking in the mirror and feeling put together and cute/cool depending on the look I'm going for.
However, I do think some people do feel pressured to dress differently or wear makeup, it all depends on personal preference and situation. I guess I think it's bad to go too far in either direction. Don't tell people they have to dress really well or wear makeup all the time, but don't tell people they can't do that either- just tell people to be themselves, whatever that means to them.
@@laughsingay your last statement verry nicely summs up my opinion as well! Just let people dress the way they want to and be themself!
I always suck at getting across what I want to say, so thank you for that nice unintentional summary! XD
I agree with what your saying. Being pretty or looking nice is definitely a self-esteem thing. Like, people just feel better about themselves after showering, combing their hair, and of course more. It doesn't always have to be for someone, nor should it be.
However, there are plenty of women and men who change their appearance significantly for the opposite sex or the same sex. One example that comes to mind is women who start working out to have a bigger butt because this is a significant feature that attracts men.
I also loved when Velma got punched into the gym wall by Daphne or when she was hit by the sheriff’s cruiser.
@@onceuponatom4339 Like, I want bigger arms so I can attract women (Woman here). So why would I look down on women who want to attract men? We are both doing the same thing in spirit.
If I were Velma I'd say some shit like, "men are evil monsters and the only reason why anyone likes them is because PATRIARCHY."
Uh... I think the patriarchies impact is real. But uh, she's just unreasonable.
I still can’t believe that the batgirl film got shelved and yet this thing got to see the light of day. For shame WB! FOR SHAAAAME!!
Honestly, when the age you get for the gang is 15 and you hear Velma's dad comment about 'riding' Fred's 'baby carrot' to victory, my skin crawled like I had just caught someone I knew with indecent pictures of kids. That feeling is how I see this show in a nutshell.
"Code for adults who still watch cartoons." proves to me that the writers and actors didn't know what they were creating, somehow. Otherwise the adult cartoon wouldn't make a tonedeaf non-joke like that.
This show is the perfect example of ‘good animation can not save bad characters and bad stories’
I've seen people ship Velma and Daphne years prior to this and this show represented their relationship and romance terribly, especially in rushing their progression from ex friends to lovers. Call me The Riddler because "NOOOO THIS IS NOT HOW IT WAS SUPPOSED TO GO!!!".
As a black girl, I am so upset and embarrassed that animators (especially in hollywood) and directors continue to change main characters to either different races of color or black in order to perpetuate some kind of political message. It is honestly concerning, and it makes me feel worse about myself as it seems as though they don't believe original black characters are worth marketing.
It's always changing (mainly) white characters into black characters, and then making them extremely subversive, as well as very political. Honestly this show is horrible, but it's made worse knowing that this trend will likely never change.
I really wish they would stop using race as a catalyst for their politics. Instead, can't we get original shows with these kinds of diverse characters WITHOUT focusing on race so hard? It's kind of cringey and has honestly stopped making me explore new media and movies anymore. If a character is originally white then keep them that way. They wouldn't do the reverse for a character of color because then they would be called racist, but it's okay the other way around? Let's stop the hypocrisy and bring cartoons and shows back to what they were before; entertainment and stories, not political ads. Add diversity with originality!... Not copy and pasted stories :(
(Btw I realize that this element is not the main subject of the topic but it is one thing that jumped out at me from the beginning because of my own personal feelings.)
I don’t think changing a characters race is “political”, is it true that some companies might market certain actors of a minority race in order to get more money/viewership yes.
If the character race swap changed nothing about the character it shouldn’t matter, many people will say that certain groups should make their own stories but they usually get overshadowed. And the company seems to have no interest in marketing them.
When a show written badly and has a certain demographic main character it’s considered political instead of bad writing.
Also I believe the creator is conservative from her twitter feed and more than likely assumed that younger demographic would watch it if she put in these type of jokes.
Also she joked about kissing men against their will and threatening to fire anyone who went against her.
As a black man I disagree. Race swapping is fine as long as it’s not done poorly. Don’t write a character around their race or make them unnecessarily politically charged just make them a person.
She isn’t black, she is Indian. As an Indian I cringe from the amount of self-hate she has for her own body and culture
@@Nothing-ci8gq As a black man, I have to disagree. Race swapping has always had a political motive. There's no other way around it. You can change the character and make it more subtle, but race swapping no matter who does it, is done for the sake of some political or ideological reason.
I don't mind it with THIS show, largely because the concept itself is appealing to me. Most of the characters didn't have clear, set backstories (as they change from iteration to iteration), and I like the idea of certain characters bringing in ethnicity and race as part of their backstory. This show just handles it as badly as they handle everything.
In my opinion, no terrible reboot angers me more than Fate the Winx Saga. For starters, because at least most people know what franchises like Scooby Doo, Fantastic Four, Avatar the Last Airbender, The Powerpuff Girls, classic Disney movies and even Thundercats are and not what their reboots make them out to be. Not enough people know what Winx Club is because of either generational divide, people, usually adults, dismissing animation as a genre for kids, Western casual viewers not knowing which English dubs to choose from with most of them not being 100% accurate, Nickelodeon rebooting it as a badly written preschool show (even rerunning it on effing Nick Jr.) and now this show, presenting it to Western casual viewers as a badly written teen drama!
For other reasons, not only does it whitewash two of its' characters, it's also borderline racist, fatphobic, biphobic, has terrible LGBT rep, terrible special effects, terrible fashion and is just uncreative at everything they do. Most of the characters are either a-holes or harmful stereotypes or even both. And I hate the excuse that if I separate the show from the source material, that'll I actually like it. If I have to do that, then that's how you know how much it failed as an adaptation.
I'll admit I feel bad for the casual fanbase since this show became yet another cancelhanger victim (cancelled on a cliffhanger) but besides them and other crew members who were just doing their job regardless of what show they're making, I feel no sympathy for no one.
If anything good came out of it, is that introduced the Western casual fans to the REAL Winx Club with the Rai English aka Cinelume dub or both Rai English dub and 4Kids dub since both have some great qualities.
Winx is western you doult. Italy is literally the gradle of civilization
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I didn't know what else to say that generalizes Americans, Canadians, Mexicans, Jamaicans, etc.
@@AJ-xc4qe amerimutts say what we Europeans say ameri mutts
It got better ngl it was still terrible but I feel so bad for the poor animators who clearly have talent bit got put on a terrible cast
I know! The character designs and animation are actually really good and it sucks they have to be attached to this garbage show
How did it get better? The jokes didn't get better they continued with their blatant racism. They started this horrible love triangle in the gang and the killers identity sucked.
@@hawkeyemihawkgettingmoneylord im not saying it got even remotly close to good but it was a small step up from ep 1 and 2 and its just my opinion i didnt enjoy it but it was an experience
@@laughsingay agreed
The main problem, in my opinion, with the new series is that it will be some people's first exposure to the concept of Scooby Doo and will ruin the franchise for them, so they'll never see the true masterpieces that were the OG show and Mystery Incoporated
It's ok, you don't have to worry about that. It's impossible that this is the first iteration that anyone has ever seen.
Every adult has seen scooby doo, if not the original than one of it's many reboots/ variations that come out every year. Not to mention the original series is always being played on some kid's network or during a retro period or advertised in Halloween. Scooby Doo is a cross generational cultural icon who, even if you don't like the show or it's concept, you know about it. You hear other kids talk about it. This Dog and his meddling kids were impossible to miss.
And further more, this show is specifically for adults. It has a higher rating, which means most kids will not be allowed to watch it. The most accidental thing that could happen is a kid sees one episode accidentally, they (or more likely their parents) turn it off because it's trash, than when they watch any real version of Scooby Doo, they don't even recognize that they were the same characters because their entire look, group dynamic and personalities have been changed.
And if you are an adult and this is SOMEHOW the first time coming across the Scooby Doo franchise, you'll learn quickly that this some reboot due to all the back lash this got, and hundreds of millions of people can point you to a better version. Because there is literally nothing worse than this.
nah, Scooby is one of those franchises where if you hate one interpretation, another will pop up. This one will eventually fade out of people's collective minds once it ends. It's also so different from the rest of the franchise that people will know something's up.
I mean people said the same with the original live action Scooby doo movies and everyone has pretty much have moved on from them. (And ironically those movies portrayed the characters better there then this show.)
I'm pretty sure the complete opposite is happening. More people have been talking about other incarnations (Mystery Incorporated and Be Cool, specifically) to compare to Velma.
@@rappingbeaniedog347 You'd be surprised how one bad installment could ruin a franchise
Honestly the issue with her missing mom is The disappearance of a grown woman was not happy in her marriage and could have just left like I'm her Father literally thought that she abandoned them. The death of the three or so girls is a thing that has a victim's and you have bodies.
No you see but white people don't care about minoritys that political message needed to be there ? Surely 1 missing person is more important than 3 brutally murders children.
It's absolutely crazy that this show that was touted about being about the smart girl of the group getting the credit for being the one who solves the mysteries is full of all the other characters basically gifting her what she needs to 'solve' the mystery.
I always feel like getting a notebook because Sarcastic Chorus take us to writing class every video 💛🙏🏼
also after velma figured out fred couldn't be the killer only to blow his trial and have him sent to jail and forget he's innocent in the next episodes. She faces no internal consequences for her actions, she jumped to the conclusion that fred was the killer got him shot in the legs and nothing comes of it, she's not even sorry. Finding her mom is supposed to make her sympathetic but even when she realizes she's an awful person, to her mom, to her parents, to her friends, to even the social circles she's a part of she doesn't stop being awful, because of this her making a point about her mom being missing and no one cares comes off as whiny. the moments of "character growth" are almost always dropped by the next set of episodes. Fred was shot in the legs and yet he's fine he's walking as if nothing happened. Velma realizes she needs norville only to insult him and be mean to him at every turn.
one could argue Rick also has reasons for being a dick, but faces consequences either internally or externally Velma doesn't. It's like they fused Rick from Rick and Morty with Meg from Family Guy and copy pasted Velma's clothes onto the fusion
a couple of things I'd like to add to the Rick and Morty comparison: Throughout the series its shown that Rick actually does have some love for his family even if he tends to be unknowing or just incapable of properly expressing that love, while its made painstakingly clear that Mindy's Velma gives less than zero shits about anyone but herself. Also It's occasionally shown/ mentioned that Rick downright hates himself because he recognizes that as a person he is very flawed but doesn't know (or sometimes can't be bothered) to improve himself. By contrast Mindy Velma is convinced that she is God's gift to the world and that there could never be anything wrong with herself despite all her obvious crap that we, the audience, and even the characters in the show themselves can plainly see.
Good take
This show had so much potential
Inside Job did , , almost everything Velma tried .
BUT FAR BETTER .
Its sad it went before its time . . .
Apple TV pls save Inside Job
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Inside job was a leftist woke show to well no wonder it got canceled
I mean the objectivly worst and toxic character being voiced by someone who tried to joke on a late night show about SAing someone becuase she has no self control on an active movie set is rather.... fitting.
For some reason everyone keeps saying "at least it has good animation" but outside of the visions it all looks post to post and comes off like a 90's Adult swim show trying to ape mystery inc because it was popular.
She wasn't right about the police not caring about her mom. In the very beginning of the show, we see her "red string" board with newspaper articles about it, including a front-page above-the-fold headline saying "LOCAL WOMAN STILL MISSING" and another headline saying "POLICE STILL SEARCHING." Clearly the police did put significant effort into locating her mother, and the commmunity was very concerned about it. That said, a missing-person cold case doesn't compare to an active serial killer targeting high schoolers.
Never been here so earlier so i'm still watching this video as i'm typing but I got to say after finishing Velma, I just hate how (spoiler I guess if anyone actually want to look at the ending) that literally everyone gets a shitty ending (Daphne loses her popularity, Fred loses his mom and his mom is the bad guy, And Shaggy/Norville gets PTSD for killing Fred's mom) while Velma basically gets credited for being a great detective, and even her relationships with everyone only slightly mad at her like she isn't really abusive towards them, gets her mom back, and over-all has a "good" ending. From my understanding, I thought she was supposed to grow as a character? But handing her victory and barely calling her out for her bullshit and a last-ditch effort to make it seems like she "cares" for Shaggy/Norville is non-sensical to me and very poorly written
I don't even care that she was supposed to be an asshole character, I care that like many characters of this archetype, just ends up failing to make it work and ends up just making a very unlikeable character to us as viewers but not disliked enough in the series' universe (Her "friends" for example) when it is 100% deserved. I was genuinely having faith that they would fix this since I hate judging by the first 3 episodes but the fact that it only double-downs on her behavior, especially in the last 2 episodes showcases a lot of the problems of the show as a whole, it is disappointing that it might not even get better in season 2 (iirc there is going to be one)
I guess it just feels like the character simply accepts that they are an asshole but gets rewarded for it so it's okay, instead of "hey I'm an asshole, I know I am but I'm trying to get better" which is what I thought the show was leading towards but finishing it clearly it really was just a self-insert of a real person who thinks their behavior is okay when in fact it's disgusting, racist, sexist, manipulative, and over-all just an abusive asshole that nobody should ever have to deal with. It is such a shame that the only time I ever actually see the asshole archetype work is stuff like Bojack or Always sunny in Philadelphia where they actually get their comeuppance or something similar.
It also hurts since Velma is already a well-established character that has plenty of history to work with this new way of going about her character such as even her snarkiness and sassiness that could have played more naturally. They could had her be bitter and shitty at first due to her mom missing but could had easily had her eventually warming up and overcoming that to being the character that we all know and love or at least a tragic character that we see as someone who is an asshole but we as viewers knows that she will be better, not the other way around where the show says she will be better or already is better by the end.
Sorry this is long it just kind of upsetting to me to see that shows/novels/comics like this fail to make compelling main characters over and over again since the person who creates it put themself into the MC too much like "I'm not starfire" being a great example of the same exact issue Velma has with it's MC and with the ending of rewarding their behavior instead of self-reflecting that their behavior was dogshit
I feel like this isn’t even Velma. Velma has always been brilliant, sweet, capable and a little awkward but in a cute way. This doesn’t even feel like Velma
I think we can all agree that Velma was trying to be Harley Quinn. But it didn’t work. Harley Quinn is such a great show.
Now I want to see Harley beat up Velma and no one helps her.
They took Harley Quinn, Daria, & Always Sunny in Philadelphia, replaced any actual humor with meta jokes only the animation staff understood, & overbaked it.
Agreed, HQ is actually good. I'm surprised SC hasn't made a video on it yet
I think Harley Quinn is kinda overrated. What it does right that Velma gets wrong, though, is that it actually seems interested in the source material and is willing to play with it.
Probably the most civil take on the Velma show I've seen.
Wait… Velma. Sucks at solving mysteries? That’s why people love this character to begin with.
Best review of this show I’ve seen yet, you nailed it about them trying to have it both ways! Good job!
This was a really thought out and well rounded review.
It's funny that they made Velma a character of color and has interest in girls(I think?)
BUT they made it so bad that even the black community and lgbt+ community hates that character
I quite liked the side character locker 22, phenomenal performance and interactions all around.
Im at least glad someone else agrees that velma gets better as it goes along. Id go as far as to say its almost watchable and I did want to see more after getting through the first couple episodes
I will admit I was somewhat curious about the murder mystery and why are they stealing people's brains... But the fact that they cast that aside to show Velma's stupid antics is a huge turn-off (not helped by the fact that Velma is a terrible person who always screws her friend family over. Like dear God, the way she treats her step-mother is awful).
Episodes 7 and 8 were the worse episodes becoming a man and have hee life automatically became easier? Has I'd they weren't sexist enough before that.
I hate the “Everyone just won’t stop shitting on this” argument because it’s brought up under the assumption that millions of people with the same opinion can’t express it all at once. Just because you see a thousand people shitting on it, won’t stop you from sharing YOUR thousandth and one opinion on the show (also not liking it). If you don’t want to see hate for something, then get off twitter because that’s literally the only place I’ve ever even seen it brought up
“There’s too much hate!” or “The hate is overblown” is such a ridiculous statement that if people shared in that sentiment, the Naruto community would not collectively hate and shit on Sakura Haruno and if that just blew your mind, you’re part of the problem
7:07 I feel like velma was some what in the wrong in that situation sense those weren't missing people,they were literally people getting murder. I can see why velma would be upset that no one bothered to look for her mom but she still acted like a narssacist by making a situation of murder teens all about her.
This is the review I've been waiting to watch, the one that isn't the knee jerk reaction of 'this is different and there for bad' or the tag alongs who shit on the show because its the cool thing to do. This is the review that took its time to understand what the show wanted to do and still said 'yeah this show is kinda mid'
It’s more subpar than mid
I think a better character arc would be Velma realizing despite her being smart and right in cases, she needs to learn to respect the opinions of others and how to use tact when talking about the issues important to her.
But that's thing most of the time she is not right she rarely is and when she is right it's obvious.
@@hawkeyemihawkgettingmoneylord Well, then that could be part of it. Accepting when you are wrong.
When me and my family watched the show and saw the scene where Velma gets hit by a car all of us jumped out of our seats and started clapping
So basically, they're trying to make Velma the new Bojack Horseman while completely missing the point on why Bojack worked as a character.
What mostly eerks me about the show is how 1. They try to fight racism with racism. I understand making fun of racism (I don't condone it, just understand it.) But they take it way too far to the point where it's no longer a joke. 2. These characters are so shitty and unlikable. 3. They tried too hard to make this show a "funny adult cartoon." That they make adult humor that is more offensive than funny. Adult cartoons don't need to make fun of racism or sexism to be considered an adult show. And it sucks that they think of it that way. And 4. How it feels like the author is just making a self insert fan fiction with this show. It doesn't feel like a Scooby-Doo inspired show, yet it doesn't feel like it's own unique show either. It's just lazy bad writing. Which sucks cause the animation is gorgeous.
This show made me want to watch Scooby-Doo Mystery Incorporated a show I've only seen on passing, and I binged it in a week.
Heroes act like villains, and villains act like heroes. This the dichotomy that current Hollywood wants. They want us to sympathize with the villains but at the same time make the heroes out to be bad guys yet still win despite being extremely antagonistic to everyone.
I really appreciated your video! I feel like a lot of Velma videos I've seen have dunked on the show without giving clear analysis--the way that you put together the problems and wove together the evidence in the video crafted a great argument for me that really highlighted my feelings on the show. Thanks!
From the few bits I was able to watch of Velma (largely through reviews), I'm glad I'm not the only one who loves Fred. He's so divorced from his usual depiction, but at least he's consistent in it and the difference adds to the hilarity. It's easier to keep my smile when he's on-screen because he's so silly, and not really malicious in his meanness compared to other characters. He's just Like That. He's this pocket of silly nonsense and as you said, his voice actor was KILLING it. I wanna hear this guy in more roles.
I know this is a subject you probably never want to cover because it's like really opening Pandora's box but what you may be considering one-day covering the ships of voltron or maybe even some of the ships in Rwby
My guy you don’t wanna touch Rwby ships.
That shits radiated like Chernobyl
@@ghostshrimp5006 I now I'm a Rwby fan XD
@@ShizuruRavenRobin026 My condolences
They really don't understand what makes an angry, spiteful main character good. A show that comes to my mind is Dan Vs. It's about the main character, Dan, getting angry at something every episode. The reason why it's great is because even though he gets irrationally angry at things, he is not cruel to his friends. He has a reason why he's angry and his sheer dedication to getting revenge makes it funny. In this show, most of the time Velma is cruel to people who are supposed to be her friend (or love interest), she gets mad for no reason, and she does a lot of bad things with no consequences.
you put it so well into words! the animation is great, the voice acting is good, the production value works! the writing just messes it all up. this was a super well writen video! puts my thoughts of the show into words to a T
Maybe it’s a new kinda show where you want the main character to die, but the killer gets stopped by Velma’s “friends”
It's really ironic when you remember Mindy says she did it because "Velma does all the work and gets none of the credit." And Velma barely does any of the work. Not to mention the BS hypnotism that causes her panic attacks when she tries to solve anything. It's like, what is the point of all this? The show has a terrible mystery, and all of its Meta Jokes end up with a pause like "You see what I did?" Norville hates Drugs, and it's funny because Shaggy being a stoner is a meme. Diya says Mystery Jaloppie because the model of the van is the same as the Mystery Machine. You know it's forced because she'd likely say Van.
That's not how you do Meta Humor. Previous versions of Scooby-Doo did Meta Humor well. They made jokes about splitting up. Fred says it's time to split up and Shaggy and Scooby start walking away. Fred says he didn't say how they were, and shaggy says "We always do it this way". Or when they split up and Shaggy and Fred are together, and they don't really mesh. Or the mention about Fred always sending Shaggy and Scooby together because they always find the monster first. Or the time Shaggy points out they all wear the same thing everyday.
Velma acknowledges cliches and tropes, but does nothing else.
"It improves after the second episode."
Is someone from HBO holding you hostage?
I like that you’re a lot more sympathical with this show than most people( like saying the animation is good) while pointing out the negatives instead of just yelling in the mic over it.
2:53 wait, when SHE wants to cheat off his homework?
I knoooow
They're both smart!
There was no mystery. It was a scavenger hunt.
I have to disagree with this being the best looking Scooby Doo show. It has some great highs like with the hallucinations or any scene that has high contrast and distinct lighting, but that isn't the majority of the show. Most of the show is extremely flat with virtually no shadows or highlights.
I'd say Mystery Incorporated is definitely a better looking show. The characters have more depth and shading to them through the entire show rather than just in certain scenes.
Also some scene in Velma looked like they barely had an in betweens in them, you can see the animation jumping between key frames with maybe one smear to connect them.
This is such a realistic and honest review
If Be Cool Scooby Doo had this shows animation style, it would've been the most popular Scooby Doo show after Mystery Incorporated.
Bro is being waaaay too nice to this show
"gets better as it goes"
thats the problem, you have to watch the show
I feel bad for the animators and artists cause they actually did a good job only for the writing to be awful
It’s not just Velma who’s unlikeable, watch Menday Kailing joke about groping men and you’ll probably hate her and Velma even more
The biggest flaw of Velma is that it exists at all.