I've been runnins dyna beads in both my bikes FJR1300 and FZ09 for years. I just changed my FZ09 last week. I installed my beads by using a funnel between the tire bead and wheel rim (before setting the bead obviously). After dumping in the beads, I kept the tire laying down and set the bead with air. No beads blew out and it worked perfectly. I will never mess with loading through the stem again.
I have use them in all my bikes for several years and they work. Never had any issue with vibration or balance. I use this method to install them with no problems. Make sure your air tank is bled of moisture first. There is a post where a guy describes the beads being stuck inside the tire. The tire must have moisture inside or something, that is not normal and thinking that the air they put in the tire must have moisture in it from an improperly maintained air tank. Anyway, they work and the science behind this is sound.
great application idea... (and the tire vavlve is called a Schrader valve) .. and i'm getting ready to do my 2000 GL.. you just made my life and garage a much happier place to be... would've NEVER thought of this!!! thank you!!!
Actually got to try this method yesterday for the new tires on my Yamaha Zuma. The tube would clog if I had too many beads in it. So I had better results only filling the tube with 1/2 inch of the beads. Still overall a great how to video.
Thanks for the very helpful video guide. I will be changing my front tire on my '82 GL1100 shortly and also plan on installing a new 90 degree valve. I was wondering how the insertion would go with the right angle bend. Thanks again!
Thanks for this video.. one suggestion I could give would be to cut the tip of the bottle but not to much, it looks like you cut to much off and let too many beads into the tube at once..just fill slowly and only enough to let a steady trickle into the tube so it doesnt get all bunched up... i flicked the bottom of the bottle and beads came out everytime and never got stuck in the tube. Took about two mins of flicking the bottle and was good to go. Very easy.
Yes, if you get a much longer Tube that will hold all the beads at one time. Then use the air - you could have them all installed in under 2 min. Just a thought. :)
I chose to use Centramatic balancers instead...nothing to worry about no mess and they work excellent! I had ZERO cupping on my goldwing and no repurchase needed. There is a video of DynaBeads on youtube that have STUCK to the center part of a motorcycle tire!! (The failure of dynabeads)
Actually, theystick together ifthe inside of the tire has moisture,OR if the compressed air has moisture,...as in when the compressor tank isn't DRAINED of water ! The only other time they will stick,is if you have used a tire sealant !
If you can put them in before finishing putting tire on easiest. Last tire s I put on a DL650 no beads or balance they are smooth up to 100mph+. I believe this is due to quality of newer tires. I will balance my DL1000 though as it s my extended hiway mc. Peace-out
Dude...If it were me, however a decent idea you have...wouldn't it be better to have a hose long enough to house all of the beads at once and to be able to cut out the bottle and multi times of refilling the short hose you have for the beads? Further more I would think with very little make shifting one could come up with a valve type apparatus allowing gradual bleed off of the air rather than using the method of withdrawing of air nozzle by hand which is a risky move at best....to summarize...good idea...just fails a tad short. thanks for the video though....keep trying!
In terms of functionality once you have gotten through the installation process, are there any implications respecting the use of aftermarket (or proprietary) tire pressure monitoring systems?
that tube is just a piece of clear vacuum line available at any parts store. i would get like a 3' piece so you could put all of the package in the tube in one shot.
Dyna beads suck. I put them in my street glide and it never rode right . Pulled back off the tire and they were stuck all around the inside of the tire . I rebalanced the tire used regular lead weights and the bike rides right now .
You might have had moisture in your tire which could cause them to stick together, I just use large grain sand, it does the same as all these other type beads but no breakage, rusting or clumping.
While the bottle is attached to the tube why not just squeeze the bottle forcing the air in the bottle to just blow the beads through the tube? when you let go of the bottle there's enough air in the tire to let the bottle refill with air then you just give it another squeeze, repeat till done.
@@cranstjs The bottle they give you for installation is very small and does not have the volume of air present to "push" any quantity of beads into the tire.
@@48retrop why not use a bigger bottle, the ones used in the food industry and a long enough tube to accommodate the full 2oz of beads. Same nozzle but with enough air in it to squeeze repeatedly until all the beads are in. I will try that method on my motorcycle trailer.
I actually started using Counteract Beads - a Dyna Bead competitor that are easier to install (they're glass instead of ceramic, and have less static). But yes, 100% beads, I haven't used lead weights in years. Everyone I know who has ever switched has loved them, and the fact that it reduces cupping and extends tire life is a great benefit as well. Counteract beads are here: goldwingdocs.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=43181
Go on their website and they mounted a go-pro on it somehow to show you how it works. I can't figure out how you don't understand the principle, plus this is only 1 video, I've seen more positive comments than negative overall. They even use them on large trucks!
if you slip while removing the tube, you're screwed, you're going to send those beads across the room. not a terrible idea, but could be a disaster if you're not careful.
It depends. If the sensor is filtered, then no. Some sensors will allow them to flow through, others won't. You can always install them in the tire when the tire is changed as well.
To all people who are interested in street bike racing at the track DO NOT i repeat DO NOT INSTALL dynabeads in your tires even if the dealer says they are better!! I rode yesterday with on a new set of dunlop q3+ track tires back home after installation and it will cause your bike to be resisting on any turn. How do you to lean aggressively on turn at the track like that. Feels like when you lean left or right the bike wants to fight with you and ive been riding for years. It definitely says “not for racing applications” after i looked through the web. Wish the guy at dealership would have known about that little information. Going back to good old weights.
that's whats garbage about these, supposedly only vertical support, no horizontal, cuz they're stuck between the wall n rim, fucking up the handling. these are for straight line commuting cruisers
Thomas Gregoire The only "obstruction" in the tube is the valve stem, which is the heavy point of the tire, tube, and rim. The obstruction is very slight. The bonus is that when you change tires and tubes, you can cut open the tube and dump out the beads. I am not sure how you would get them all out of a tubeless tire without a mess.
They would be contaminated with dirt if you use the car vacuum for anything else and don't clean it completely. Plus they go through the impeller. Not very easy. You cut an inner tube and pour them out. They are clean and pour out easily.
Void WHAT warranty? The tire warranty? That's false. Both Counteract and Dyna Beads have received (and have published) assurances from all major tire manufacturers that the use of their beads do not affect tire warranty. Anyone who has used these beads knows that they do not affect the interior of the tire, and actually extend the life of the tire, usually by thousands of miles.
Scott MacLean Not Dunlop. They won't warrant the tire if you put beads in them. From Dunlop, "Dunlop does not recommend the use of dry or liquid balancers/sealers and will not warrant tires into which these materials have been injected. Tire and wheel assembly balance must be checked with a balance stand or computer wheel balancer." Sounds pretty straight forward to me. Also Pirelli will NOT warrant any tire with beads, from their website "Tires injected with liquid balancer or sealant or any other balancing material." I'm sure the list goes on and on. Be wise be safe always follow the manufacture's warnings and recommendations especially on Motorcycles. You only have two tire's and when one fails it could be deadly.
You'd be wrong. It's been widely used (and proved) by millions of motorcycle owners for many years. It's a pretty common method of wheel balancing - it came from tractor trailers (who use golf ball sized "beads" rather than these tiny ones that go in motorcycle tires).
I've been runnins dyna beads in both my bikes FJR1300 and FZ09 for years. I just changed my FZ09 last week. I installed my beads by using a funnel between the tire bead and wheel rim (before setting the bead obviously). After dumping in the beads, I kept the tire laying down and set the bead with air. No beads blew out and it worked perfectly. I will never mess with loading through the stem again.
For sure, if you're putting a new tire on, that's the easiest and quickest way to do it.
HA! Worked like a champ. Took all of five minutes. Used a piece of two foot hose, and that made it really easy.
seems like if you used as tube long enough to hold the entire quantity of the beads, you'd be done in one shot... no?
I have use them in all my bikes for several years and they work. Never had any issue with vibration or balance. I use this method to install them with no problems. Make sure your air tank is bled of moisture first. There is a post where a guy describes the beads being stuck inside the tire. The tire must have moisture inside or something, that is not normal and thinking that the air they put in the tire must have moisture in it from an improperly maintained air tank. Anyway, they work and the science behind this is sound.
great application idea... (and the tire vavlve is called a Schrader valve) .. and i'm getting ready to do my 2000 GL.. you just made my life and garage a much happier place to be... would've NEVER thought of this!!! thank you!!!
Fantastic video for this problem. Now I am going to put the beads into my tires. Thanks
I just used my metal engraver along side the valve stem to vibrate the beads into the tire. It works great.
Actually got to try this method yesterday for the new tires on my Yamaha Zuma. The tube would clog if I had too many beads in it.
So I had better results only filling the tube with 1/2 inch of the beads.
Still overall a great how to video.
Thanks for the very helpful video guide. I will be changing my front tire on my '82 GL1100 shortly and also plan on installing a new 90 degree valve. I was wondering how the insertion would go with the right angle bend. Thanks again!
Great idea. When I do mine I use a hose on the valve stem tube that is 24” long so that I can put many more beads in at once.
I would use a longer tube and fill it up in one time.
Then plug it to the stem and blow inside.
Nice video.
Good idea .. You should get a longer tube so that you can shoot all the beads in at the same time
Sorry I didn't see Michaelovich's post before I posted mine. Oooops! Just goes to show you that brilliant minds think alike :-)
Thanks for this video.. one suggestion I could give would be to cut the tip of the bottle but not to much, it looks like you cut to much off and let too many beads into the tube at once..just fill slowly and only enough to let a steady trickle into the tube so it doesnt get all bunched up... i flicked the bottom of the bottle and beads came out everytime and never got stuck in the tube. Took about two mins of flicking the bottle and was good to go. Very easy.
Yes, if you get a much longer Tube that will hold all the beads at one time. Then use the air - you could have them all installed in under 2 min. Just a thought. :)
You would have to get a thicker walled tube, could you imagine a blowout with a full tube of those beads. One hell of a mess
Twist on a piece of wire like a hose clamp on the valve stem.
You don't use full air pressure,...just a quick shot,so it shouldn't "blow out".
remove the valve stem, let air pressure out slowly before removing hose
Great Video, now to convince myself to do this... Once you put them in, no turning back.
Thank you very much for this info. I'm doing my first installation of beads...with a 90* valve stem.
those suck man, patience and posture
ok, great idea. Why not just get a 3' tube, fill the entire thing and do it in one fell swoop?
if you lay the tip of an engraving tool against the stem the beads will run right thru.
I chose to use Centramatic balancers instead...nothing to worry about no mess and they work excellent! I had ZERO cupping on my goldwing and no repurchase needed. There is a video of DynaBeads on youtube that have STUCK to the center part of a motorcycle tire!! (The failure of dynabeads)
Actually, theystick together ifthe inside of the tire has moisture,OR if the compressed air has moisture,...as in when the compressor tank isn't DRAINED of water !
The only other time they will stick,is if you have used a tire sealant !
thanks i am getting ready to install some new beads so this is great
Had no luck with air method... beads blocked air... best way I found is longer tubing that allowed me to slowly pour beads... controlled pour.
If you can put them in before finishing putting tire on easiest. Last tire s I put on a DL650 no beads or balance they are smooth up to 100mph+. I believe this is due to quality of newer tires. I will balance my DL1000 though as it s my extended hiway mc. Peace-out
Why not use a longer piece of hose so you don't have to keep putting the bottle in and out?
Good vid. Thanks for taking the time to post it.
Dude...If it were me, however a decent idea you have...wouldn't it be better to have a hose long enough to house all of the beads at once and to be able to cut out the bottle and multi times of refilling the short hose you have for the beads? Further more I would think with very little make shifting one could come up with a valve type apparatus allowing gradual bleed off of the air rather than using the method of withdrawing of air nozzle by hand which is a risky move at best....to summarize...good idea...just fails a tad short. thanks for the video though....keep trying!
Wonder if you could put a hole in the bottom of the bottle and shoot air thru it and blow em in all at once?
In terms of functionality once you have gotten through the installation process, are there any implications respecting the use of aftermarket (or proprietary) tire pressure monitoring systems?
that tube is just a piece of clear vacuum line available at any parts store. i would get like a 3' piece so you could put all of the package in the tube in one shot.
I just saw this , I tried it and it works perfect, clever
So much better than the tap method!
This doesn't work in all types of valve stems. I tried this and it failed with my 8.3mm Ariete valve stems. The beads have to be vibrated in.
Great how to video.
Thank's for posting.....
Dyna beads suck. I put them in my street glide and it never rode right . Pulled back off the tire and they were stuck all around the inside of the tire . I rebalanced the tire used regular lead weights and the bike rides right now .
You might have had moisture in your tire which could cause them to stick together, I just use large grain sand, it does the same as all these other type beads but no breakage, rusting or clumping.
Prevent the beading lube from entering the tire the next time dummy.
@@rustyshackelford9015 Can't you give advice without name calling. A bit immature.
If you had a longer hose you could feed more beads in at once
yes tube also just a little tricky getting them in....
how much do you put in ? brilliant method by the way.
i don't think i can use these in my tubeless conversion...i think the beads will stick to the adhesive at the edges of the 3m extreme sealing tape
Awesome ! Now do you remove any lead weights on the wheel first and just rely on the dyna beads to balance the wheel ? Thanks
Yes, no lead weights needed.
how do you know how many to put in your tire.
Great idea and video!
Wondering if these beads can be installed in a can am spyder tires?
They can be installed in any tires. I had them in my truck with excellent results.
Thank you
They run them in Tractor trailer rigs
While the bottle is attached to the tube why not just squeeze the bottle forcing the air in the bottle to just blow the beads through the tube? when you let go of the bottle there's enough air in the tire to let the bottle refill with air then you just give it another squeeze, repeat till done.
I was going to post the same thing. Hello. I figured that's why they give a squeeze bottle.
@@cranstjs The bottle they give you for installation is very small and does not have the volume of air present to "push" any quantity of beads into the tire.
@@48retrop why not use a bigger bottle, the ones used in the food industry and a long enough tube to accommodate the full 2oz of beads. Same nozzle but with enough air in it to squeeze repeatedly until all the beads are in. I will try that method on my motorcycle trailer.
Tubed tires work with these beads? Without issues?
Yes!
As the beads constantly move about, won't they wear away the inside of the tyre?
They are ceramic, very tough and supposedly not bothered by moisture. I would still run nitrogen if available.
Good vid mate
Do you still use dyna beads? I’m hesitant to make the jump from lead weights ...
I actually started using Counteract Beads - a Dyna Bead competitor that are easier to install (they're glass instead of ceramic, and have less static). But yes, 100% beads, I haven't used lead weights in years. Everyone I know who has ever switched has loved them, and the fact that it reduces cupping and extends tire life is a great benefit as well.
Counteract beads are here: goldwingdocs.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=43181
gsmac1969 Thankyou for the quick reply! Will look at them! Cheers
Pretty good idea.
Great video thanks for sharing....
I can't figure out how beads could possibly work. Judging by the comments on this and many other videos they don't work for many people.
They work. The science behind it supports it also.
Go on their website and they mounted a go-pro on it somehow to show you how it works. I can't figure out how you don't understand the principle, plus this is only 1 video, I've seen more positive comments than negative overall. They even use them on large trucks!
if you slip while removing the tube, you're screwed, you're going to send those beads across the room. not a terrible idea, but could be a disaster if you're not careful.
slowly de pressurize
Do I need to remove any weights on wheel after installing beads?
no let the beads "fine tune" your fairly close balance job as the tire wears.
When you do an emergency brake, do all the beads move forward, creating an imbalance?
Not that I've ever noticed, no.
before then they should be settled inside
Never felt anything negative and I tend to drive hard sometimes
Does these flow into and thru tire pressure sensors?
It depends. If the sensor is filtered, then no. Some sensors will allow them to flow through, others won't. You can always install them in the tire when the tire is changed as well.
To all people who are interested in street bike racing at the track DO NOT i repeat DO NOT INSTALL dynabeads in your tires even if the dealer says they are better!! I rode yesterday with on a new set of dunlop q3+ track tires back home after installation and it will cause your bike to be resisting on any turn. How do you to lean aggressively on turn at the track like that. Feels like when you lean left or right the bike wants to fight with you and ive been riding for years. It definitely says “not for racing applications” after i looked through the web. Wish the guy at dealership would have known about that little information. Going back to good old weights.
that's whats garbage about these, supposedly only vertical support, no horizontal, cuz they're stuck between the wall n rim, fucking up the handling. these are for straight line commuting cruisers
fuck, carbon walls and dynabeads, i got one of those up front and even if i didn't, those are not going in my sport tires or bikes
Skip to about 5:15 unless you really like to punish yourself.
Can they be used in tubeless, as well as tubed motorcycles?
AudiophileTubes They may not be as effective, in a tubed tire due to the tube.
AudiophileTubes Dynabeads says they work fine in tube tires. I have tube tires.
Thomas Gregoire The only "obstruction" in the tube is the valve stem, which is the heavy point of the tire, tube, and rim. The obstruction is very slight. The bonus is that when you change tires and tubes, you can cut open the tube and dump out the beads. I am not sure how you would get them all out of a tubeless tire without a mess.
Bob Fastner I use a car vacuum cleaner for the beads only. Easy cleanup.
They would be contaminated with dirt if you use the car vacuum for anything else and don't clean it completely. Plus they go through the impeller. Not very easy. You cut an inner tube and pour them out. They are clean and pour out easily.
genius.
id use a longer hose
Thanks
anyone try using a sonic tooth brush to vibrate them down?
Now your going to need to make another video, this time using a hose 20 inches long, get done in one minute.
Do they work. What about high speeds. 100 k on the highway
Get a long tube put all the beads in the tube
Sand will do the same thing as Dyna Beads... I have been using sand for 20 years...
Z71Ranger Doesn't it eat away the inside of the tires due to the rougher edges - I think its a brilliant hack, it is after all 'ceramic'
Z71Ranger Sand doesn't roll and it is an abrasive. Has to be bad for the valve stem even if the tire can handle it.
I've got a better way with a set up I made.
I moved to plastic BB's
Don't do it , it will void the warranty.
Void WHAT warranty? The tire warranty? That's false. Both Counteract and Dyna Beads have received (and have published) assurances from all major tire manufacturers that the use of their beads do not affect tire warranty. Anyone who has used these beads knows that they do not affect the interior of the tire, and actually extend the life of the tire, usually by thousands of miles.
Scott MacLean Not Dunlop. They won't warrant the tire if you put beads in them.
From Dunlop, "Dunlop does not recommend the use of dry or liquid balancers/sealers and will not warrant tires into which these materials have been injected. Tire and wheel assembly balance must be checked with a balance stand or computer wheel balancer." Sounds pretty straight forward to me.
Also Pirelli will NOT warrant any tire with beads, from their website "Tires injected with liquid balancer or sealant or any other balancing material."
I'm sure the list goes on and on.
Be wise be safe always follow the manufacture's warnings and recommendations especially on Motorcycles. You only have two tire's and when one fails it could be deadly.
3.5 minutes time taken to get to the core being taken out..........zzzzzzz
Im calling BS on this product.
You'd be wrong. It's been widely used (and proved) by millions of motorcycle owners for many years. It's a pretty common method of wheel balancing - it came from tractor trailers (who use golf ball sized "beads" rather than these tiny ones that go in motorcycle tires).
I will never use that crap
Big question...can this method be applied to tube tires also?
Yes! I've used them in tubed tires, they work great.
@@ScottsSynthStuff thanks alot you've just made my life easier lol thanks for the video
So how much to u put in the tire
approx 1.5oz rear, 1oz front
Counter balance has a chart and ships them measured already for your tire size. My bike takes 2 oz rear and 1 oz front.