Nice build, dude. It looks very interesting. I feel inspired. Have you considered switching to a smaller tier of life flask that is more aligned with your degen? That way you can keep it going for longer.
Wouldn't "increased lightning damage" be pointless because you're already getting around 3400% increased spell damage? All the different "increased X damage" numbers get added together and not multiplied, right? So you're basically going from 3400% to 3408% percent I'm doing Demon Form Flameblast and focusing on fire pen and ignite scaling instead of fire damage
yeah i have same question there are only few vids about spark demon form and they all are different, im trying to figure out how to properly build it, aaah man i wish we had pob))
Am i missing something? I just have 60 spirit without amulet and need 100 for archmage .And you dont get any spirit from amulet tho..so how you can have over 100 spirit ?
@cd8788 there are support gems with life leech and life Regen. Cannibalism 4% life on kill and another one gives 12% when culling. There's also life recouping passives on damage taken, of you take all the recouping nodes, u get 83-88% increased damage recoupled as life. I wonder if these features would help. Spell leech on gloves or weapons I'm not sure if they have it. Maybe mana leach, and take mind over mana and convert ES to mana too. So the build is low life, life Regen, life recoup and mana Regen+ leech combination
@@cd8788 there's support gems that gives you life leech and Regen. There's 1 that gives u 1% life regen. Cannibalism 4% life per kill. There's 1 gives 12% life per culling kill. There's one that gives you 6% life leech for that skill. I wonder if you could use some of them on demon form sockets. If not, use it on ur main skill. There's also life recoup in the passive nodes. I can get 83-85% damage taken as life recoup. Mind over mana and convert ES to mana with all these life Regen, life leech, life recoup. I think you may be able to stay in demon form indefinitely as long as you are dealing damage or taking damage
@@cd8788 maybe infernal flames could be useful too. It says you take max life and ES as damage if you flames are full. I wonder life recoup works with damage taken from infernal flames! If it does, then you get unlimited mana and recoup 80% of that damage as life, together with Regen and leech. Maybe it's sustained indefinitely as long as you are fighting
Very cool build. Do you think other damage types could work as well? I've been playing Flameblast but I'm only at T7 Maps right now. Does Archmage take up your entire spirit? Grim feast in my experience is absolutely amazing for this build. I'd also be interested in your thoughts about the ascendancy nodes in general. Do you think the Infernal Hound is the best option to go for?
other damage types can probably work with archmage, demon form buffs are indiscriminate and so is archmage's the hound is very nice but its bugged on consoles, the node that changes lightning + cold to fire res and phys to chaos res is also very good
Nice guide. I'm running the crit version of this, which also lets me benefit from Grinning Immolation and not having an awkward wasted Ascendancy point haha. For Spark supports I'd like to recommend people try Shock Siphon, especially on such a squishy character. When you're zooming it ends up being quite a lot of ES sustain.
im tryin to figure this out myself, kinda annoying. its a controller bug. but should be able do fix it if you play controller on pc, i just know how yet, hope anyone can help
My demon form is better. 6k energyshield running archmage with grimfeast so I've got 12k going into boss fights. 1500 Mana. 160kdps at 250stacks. Overall demonform is not better than an elemental Sorc. Hexblast is probably the best way to play demonform.
Hi, i have 61% convert life in chest and 27 in ring, btw i have 300+hp wtf? How i can up my build if i get life in acts? Maybe we can reset life for quests in acts? Or need new hero?
the hell-hound does nothing for this build, the moment you start taking damage from Demon form your hell-hounds life doesnt move at all it doesnt take the damage it claims to be able to take. just stand in your hideout and get max stacks look at your hellhounds life pool. if your res capd the other ascendancy node "altered flesh" is better worth while taking than hell hound.
value of the second ring (non mings) can nearly cover the hp gain of one ring especially if you look for a breach ring and qual life with max regen. This allows you to gain allot of other value from the ring including mana/lightning damage and also help with res capping as that can be tricky running double mings
@@Dubmixer101 I always forget breach rings have the quality thing. Gonna hopefully try swapping to this from minions soon, just trying to get the gear set up so I dont brick myself
@@Andy_89 they are, which is why if not having that weapon puts you below a minimum requirement for something, trying to do that something ends demon form and reverts back to holding the weapon for example trying to cast a weapon skill like firebolt or trying to use the switch weapon actions also end demon form because demon can't hold weapons
@@WUSA- ahh ok well can confirm i run a slightly modified version of this and im doing t16 ++'s so basically t18 with greed delierium slammed on it so 30% dmg reduction or What ever that is and it just kills everything and have done the level 4 breach boss with 2 player hp which i killed in 18 seconds
The goal is to eventually take mind over matter, but currently I need more passive points to get more mana regen. Demon form + archmage takes a ton of mana, and my current mana regen isn’t enough.
@@bonesCDi highly recommend getting your hands on the Everlasting Gaze amulet as mentioned above, as well as the Mask of the Stitched Dawn helmet. You absolutely need Mind Over Matter if you equip the mask though.
How you got 150k damage, I don't understand, I've built a build like yours but I got 10k damage, I don't get it. and why your demon charges don't take away your hp, please explain.
looks cool, but there are questions about survivability, mom is necessary here for a tough endgame, but even in normal mapping mana regenerates poorly, while the equipment has very few options due to the requirements for HP regeneration, resistances... anyway it will be interesting to see what you do with it :)
Love the concept, but it feels too unconsistent . Having 200 Stacks against a Boss is not gonna happen in most cases. You cant keep that up for too long, and then your build is useless af till you get like 40+ Stacks again.
@ it’s around the left top corner of the screen, normal as all buff was. And after you transform, Demon flame will count as per sec (more regen and less maximum life you have resulting you can stand on demon form longer, stand longer = more stack of demon flame you can get)
I swear if GGG just added a quicksilver flash the player count would double. I got to 78, did a few waystones as 150+ stack demon-witch and feel pretty over the game
so basically.... you have to just go spend real life money to buy currency to end up buying all of this gear because to get everything like this WITH the res too...
@@ReeYuuJee DF damage is actually pretty decent. Stormweavers wearing gear worth 20 times what this guy is wearing aren't getting these Spark tooltips. The reason this build is B tier is the relatively horrible defenses.
Phenomenal overview bro thank you
Finally, just wanted a build as a demon witch with her Hot Dog
Been waiting for this video!!!
I’ve been building this but I plan on sacrificing the amulet for everlasting gaze and going mom Eldritch
Nice build, dude. It looks very interesting. I feel inspired. Have you considered switching to a smaller tier of life flask that is more aligned with your degen? That way you can keep it going for longer.
I think gargantuan is the best flask as it has the longest hp regen (5 seconds). Increased charges for more uses as well
at what stage can I use this build? level as SRS until which point? when to switch? any tips, ty
i switched as soon i got the 2. trial and took the "Mastered Darkness" node so the life regen issue wasnt too big.
Ty i ill gibe it a try
@@IgordArc with mastered darkness you will be capped on 10 deamonflame only so it wont be even close to what you see in the video.
Great looking build! I figure even though you can’t use them while transformed, you probably still want a defensive weapon & shield just in case.
Wouldn't "increased lightning damage" be pointless because you're already getting around 3400% increased spell damage? All the different "increased X damage" numbers get added together and not multiplied, right? So you're basically going from 3400% to 3408% percent
I'm doing Demon Form Flameblast and focusing on fire pen and ignite scaling instead of fire damage
yeah i have same question there are only few vids about spark demon form and they all are different, im trying to figure out how to properly build it, aaah man i wish we had pob))
Cool idea dude and pure gold implementation!
Makes me wonder if the damage recouped as mana or health applies to the damage taken from demonflsme
Am i missing something? I just have 60 spirit without amulet and need 100 for archmage .And you dont get any spirit from amulet tho..so how you can have over 100 spirit ?
There are many Similar builds with archmage and Nobody showing now they get to 100 Spirit
act 3 cruel gives you 40 more spirit which makes your total spirit 100
yes you are. Finish questline first before thinking about endgame builds
@@Raziel132 i was easy in T 3/4s without archmage.
Just found out about the Bosses and wanted to came backto edit my Comment.
I got it now thanks
have you considered life leech too?life leech on golves, weapons, and passive points to further sustain demon form
There are gloves with spell leech? We aren't doing physical damage.
@cd8788 there are support gems with life leech and life Regen. Cannibalism 4% life on kill and another one gives 12% when culling.
There's also life recouping passives on damage taken, of you take all the recouping nodes, u get 83-88% increased damage recoupled as life. I wonder if these features would help.
Spell leech on gloves or weapons I'm not sure if they have it. Maybe mana leach, and take mind over mana and convert ES to mana too. So the build is low life, life Regen, life recoup and mana Regen+ leech combination
@@cd8788 there's support gems that gives you life leech and Regen. There's 1 that gives u 1% life regen. Cannibalism 4% life per kill. There's 1 gives 12% life per culling kill. There's one that gives you 6% life leech for that skill. I wonder if you could use some of them on demon form sockets. If not, use it on ur main skill.
There's also life recoup in the passive nodes. I can get 83-85% damage taken as life recoup. Mind over mana and convert ES to mana with all these life Regen, life leech, life recoup. I think you may be able to stay in demon form indefinitely as long as you are dealing damage or taking damage
@@cd8788 maybe infernal flames could be useful too. It says you take max life and ES as damage if you flames are full. I wonder life recoup works with damage taken from infernal flames! If it does, then you get unlimited mana and recoup 80% of that damage as life, together with Regen and leech. Maybe it's sustained indefinitely as long as you are fighting
Obrigado pelo vídeo!! Estou procurando novas builds para jogar com minha Bruxa, essa parece bem divertida e com um ótimo clearwave!
great vid!
Very cool build. Do you think other damage types could work as well? I've been playing Flameblast but I'm only at T7 Maps right now. Does Archmage take up your entire spirit? Grim feast in my experience is absolutely amazing for this build. I'd also be interested in your thoughts about the ascendancy nodes in general. Do you think the Infernal Hound is the best option to go for?
other damage types can probably work with archmage, demon form buffs are indiscriminate and so is archmage's
the hound is very nice but its bugged on consoles, the node that changes lightning + cold to fire res and phys to chaos res is also very good
Hey man, why are you using ming's ring? Is it just to chaos resistance?
Lower Life to improve uptime in demon form
Nice guide. I'm running the crit version of this, which also lets me benefit from Grinning Immolation and not having an awkward wasted Ascendancy point haha.
For Spark supports I'd like to recommend people try Shock Siphon, especially on such a squishy character. When you're zooming it ends up being quite a lot of ES sustain.
you cant do crit in demon form
@@saikikdosntexist I'm not sure what you mean. You factually can lol.
have you a mobalytics link to your build?
could it be that the robe interaction with energy shield is fixed? when I equip it my ES is 0 with EB
I agree, I had around 2500 ES last night, and now I’m at 1000
way i lose Summon Infernal Hound in Demon Form?
im tryin to figure this out myself, kinda annoying. its a controller bug. but should be able do fix it if you play controller on pc, i just know how yet, hope anyone can help
Not enough spirit cause u lose spirit from your weapon when u in demon form
@@Sten1Rock I don’t use a weapon because the build my spirit is 100 only
@@Sten1Rock demon form dont use weapons
Compared to hexblast the bossing seems much better but clear and defences look pretty horrible..
What are you talking about? Hexblast is so slow and feels like ass
@decinkaa9273 ?? Hexblast is literally instant and has no projectile
My demon form is better. 6k energyshield running archmage with grimfeast so I've got 12k going into boss fights. 1500 Mana. 160kdps at 250stacks. Overall demonform is not better than an elemental Sorc. Hexblast is probably the best way to play demonform.
Hi, i have 61% convert life in chest and 27 in ring, btw i have 300+hp wtf? How i can up my build if i get life in acts? Maybe we can reset life for quests in acts? Or need new hero?
Two ming's rings should do the trick
how many red maps can you do before dying?
Whats your life total in this video??
Why didn't you take Fire damage?
how do you keep the hound activated? mine disappears when i transform, and i have him up in both sets
Make sure to enable it for both weapon sets
If you're playing on console, AFAIK it's currently bugged and doesn't work :( I'm on PS5 so I'm hoping for a fix soon
Gotta set it with a keyboard layout if you’re on stream
You probably lose some attribute when you transform and have a support gem socketed that you can't use anymore
@@neek-oh it's on the second weapon set bruh
How come your health is only 250? I built my character like yours, but my health is still at 450.
+ 20 hp + 20% hp from story bosses maybe ?
How to stay in demon form forever and not lose health? I'm slowly losing alot of health
gotta match your HP and your total life recov per second
the hell-hound does nothing for this build, the moment you start taking damage from Demon form your hell-hounds life doesnt move at all it doesnt take the damage it claims to be able to take. just stand in your hideout and get max stacks look at your hellhounds life pool. if your res capd the other ascendancy node "altered flesh" is better worth while taking than hell hound.
hell hound doesn't tank self-inflicted damage, the purpose of taking him is mitigating damage from monsters
it's viable at lvl 67? i really want use the demon form
Don’t know if you’ve tried it yet, but at level 45, I’m mowing down my bosses with a similar build. Demon form is great!
@@reesemackinen4260 im 73 now, i need 2 lelvs more to equip my helmet, im gona try it
I already switch and… it's faking amazing, i need more lvl to finish all but still super fun, i dont have 5 sockets on spark but still strong whit 4
any reason to not run two mings?
im guessing it because they're only at 3k ES +200 ish hp in endgame which makes them super squishy
value of the second ring (non mings) can nearly cover the hp gain of one ring especially if you look for a breach ring and qual life with max regen. This allows you to gain allot of other value from the ring including mana/lightning damage and also help with res capping as that can be tricky running double mings
@@Dubmixer101 I always forget breach rings have the quality thing. Gonna hopefully try swapping to this from minions soon, just trying to get the gear set up so I dont brick myself
Why i lose Demonform after casting spark ?
You have an attribute on your wand or focus that you lose when you transform
@@timroche7229 Thank you❤, I would never have thought of that because I thought the weapons were deactivated in that form
@@Andy_89 they are, which is why if not having that weapon puts you below a minimum requirement for something, trying to do that something ends demon form and reverts back to holding the weapon
for example trying to cast a weapon skill like firebolt or trying to use the switch weapon actions also end demon form because demon can't hold weapons
whats the highest tier map u can do
He literally showcases a 16 in this
@@Dubmixer101 it was T15, just pause it ;)
@@WUSA- ahh ok well can confirm i run a slightly modified version of this and im doing t16 ++'s so basically t18 with greed delierium slammed on it so 30% dmg reduction or What ever that is and it just kills everything and have done the level 4 breach boss with 2 player hp which i killed in 18 seconds
@@Dubmixer101 no problem. Still impressiv build :) im pretty sure this builds slams t16 easy
this build already got nerf ?
no
@@vix9743 but my spark only 10k , maximum demon stack 150+ only 50k+ dmg spark
Why no Mind Over Matter?
Slower mana regen and dog/es mitigate anyway enough dps. Demon Form drains insane mana and life
The goal is to eventually take mind over matter, but currently I need more passive points to get more mana regen. Demon form + archmage takes a ton of mana, and my current mana regen isn’t enough.
@@bonesCD u can add The Everlasting Gaze Azure Amulet instead of MoM
@@guilhermescopel5277 cant use sir. this build need huge life regen.
@@bonesCDi highly recommend getting your hands on the Everlasting Gaze amulet as mentioned above, as well as the Mask of the Stitched Dawn helmet. You absolutely need Mind Over Matter if you equip the mask though.
How you got 150k damage, I don't understand, I've built a build like yours but I got 10k damage, I don't get it. and why your demon charges don't take away your hp, please explain.
did u even watch the video bro?
You slow?
How D？
looks cool, but there are questions about survivability, mom is necessary here for a tough endgame, but even in normal mapping mana regenerates poorly, while the equipment has very few options due to the requirements for HP regeneration, resistances... anyway it will be interesting to see what you do with it :)
today i learned: you can corrupt skill gems
now i know why i cant get Red Rubys since 2 days, xD
Love the concept, but it feels too unconsistent . Having 200 Stacks against a Boss is not gonna happen in most cases. You cant keep that up for too long, and then your build is useless af till you get like 40+ Stacks again.
I went double ming's heart.
Okay I think I know what I missed, My regen is about 320/s but my HP is up to 1,000 resulting me to stand in demon form only about 70 demon flame 😂
where do you see your demon flame, i cant see it
@ it’s around the left top corner of the screen, normal as all buff was. And after you transform, Demon flame will count as per sec (more regen and less maximum life you have resulting you can stand on demon form longer, stand longer = more stack of demon flame you can get)
Damn, any Buff dosent works with demon forme. I have no weapon, I full of spirit, but it dosnt work
and 0 rarity = 0 loot from maps, sadge
overthinking it tbh. All this life stuff isnt necessary and creates a class cannon for no reason.
This build also doesnt work anymore and all your energy shield goes away with battery.
Hi, can i play with ball lightning instead of spark in this build ?
Yes demon form buffs and archmage buffs can apply to any spell
I swear if GGG just added a quicksilver flash the player count would double. I got to 78, did a few waystones as 150+ stack demon-witch and feel pretty over the game
no thank you. i dont want to micromanager flasks. take a break or go back to poe1 instead of ruining it for other people
damn... demon form moans like Karen. kind of annoying lol
t16 (t15 blue map) xdddd
15+1=?
so basically.... you have to just go spend real life money to buy currency to end up buying all of this gear because to get everything like this WITH the res too...
Huh u can’t even buy anything with real money
@@wondering_hand0985😂😂😂
Man this build is cheap AF compare with all other builds that run high tier maps and can kill atleast t3 xesht.
@@wondering_hand0985 yes you can. you can buy like 500 exal orbs for £4
@@missaya4959 trade is dead due to divine glitch. now everyone wants like x amount of divines even for a 8% life regen ruby..
Yea, no. Its gonna get nerfed so hard lol.
then all builds that do damage will then lol.. so.. lets just not bother playing at all
still deals 15x less dmg than the top builds lmao
@@ReeYuuJee DF damage is actually pretty decent. Stormweavers wearing gear worth 20 times what this guy is wearing aren't getting these Spark tooltips. The reason this build is B tier is the relatively horrible defenses.
OMG, i tried to respec into this, the price to get the good items is way too high oO