@@alberthaystowniv146 Nah, not anymore but there's still a lot of tension, mainly hate from the west coast since i guess they're jealous that their music scene died out back in 2019-2020 and new york took over. I know a 30s in LA that told me that they don't fw foreign rappers because they wanna be the only rapping city or some shit like that, LA niggas still hate new york niggas heavy but that hate isn't the same here since we been moved on from that shit
@ares5124 I'm from the Southern USA, with our Hip Hop being the best since the 1980s. The problem is Edwin Edwards, David Duke, Master P,&War on Drugs being a Federal Government Politicians being Russian Oligarch. State of Louisiana has a court case about this. The Federal Government Lifestyle with DEA Chad Scott. Are the Tupac, Biggie,Fat Pat,&they tried to murder me in 2013.
@@kushtalksrealtalk6681 facts mfs don’t know and I see a lot of throwing that word rat around with no proof when the man aint make no statement or testify not even get nobody put in jail but hisself an did his time cause he ain’t snitch but you got mfs saying he a rat but whole time they really be the rate smh and I also see that mfs especially in my city honor these rats 🐀 cause they got cheese 🧀smh it’s really sick whack all rats C.O.S. CODE OF SILENCE🤫we don’t honor rats
"F**k With Dre Day" is the name of the song that Tim Dog is mentioned on the Chronic. Not sure if anyone mentioned it plus you have the video snippets from the song in your actual video. 300+ comments is a lot to go through. Keep grinding bro and I love the content.
Like how do you not know the words to “F With Dre Day” but your doing all these videos about California street activities. I don’t get it. Just Stop. Do videos about Skateboarding.
@@drvpgxd fr tho. the shit was even on GTA San Andreas. I cant stand culture vultures. Idc if they from Cali or not , they not from South of the 10 freeway ,i know that much
This fool narrating prolly never heard of E-40, he's an ultracrepidarian historian. V-town and the Bay was responsible for an enormous amount of great music!
I don't know if the word "good" should be used to describe it, but nonetheless, it was a good video and it is very interesting history to speculate over.
The back story on this one is garbage. Northern California rappers never gaf about LA rap. The Bay loved all LA rappers that made good music. It was all about the music back then. The whole “lingo stealing” shit started with E 40. Before that it was always love. Even after that it’s love. Only difference is the markets. You got a dude like Locksmith who can go bar for bar with anyone but he’s not in the right market.
He dissed Tim Dog in Dre Day Snoop said "Tim M.U.T your bark was loud but yo bite wasn't visious / and them rhymes you was kicking was quite bootylious " 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Dj Quik is weaved throughout this whole thing, he should’ve been given some credit! He was the main one poppin in the West after NWA and before Snoop. Quik beefed with Tim Dogg and NY at the same time. Quik was with Death Row during the whole time of the beef and the Source awards, even performed on stage with them! Quik mixed and mastered the whole All Eyez On Me project! Quik was even accused of having part in Biggie’s murder because him and his Pirus were at the event. He was super active during all of this, I’m surprised he was left out of this video.
West Coast always knows how to Party. In the city, City of Compton. I’m proud to have been Rise in the CPT I was only 1yr old when the family came from Mexico. Shout out to the Crips, Bloods and the Eses. No Disrespect to no one ☝️ one Love.
You skipped the whole situation that really started East West beef, Suge and Diddy was at a Jermaine Dupri party where Diddys body guard Wolf killed Suges homie Jake
Im not american and english isnt my first language so its hard for me to understand the full story but as I understand it its like this: Rappers from LA were very popular, rappers from NY got jealous and dissed LA, 2pac from LA got shot and blamed biggie from NY, Suge knight made him sign to deathrow after he came out of jail, he dropped a disstrack, then he got killed, and 6 months later biggie was also shot. Is this the story or am I not understanding it right? And why did pac even blame biggie for his shooting? And why are some people saying suge was the one who killed pac even tho pac was west coast like suge?
Nah bro how you skip over Ice T he was the first who put gangsta rap on the map on the west coast and Los Angeles and that was before Too Short. But close otherwise. Short was after. And you forgot to mention how the New York New York video shoot was shot up and it was because Biggie got on the Radio and said they was filming in New York.
Big facts. It’s disrespect because Ice T was rapping during the height of Breakin and Poppin. And credited with the 1st gangsta rap song 6 in the morning.
He tells on himself regularly. Ol vulture ass boy. Couldn't even get the thumbnail right. He's basically just reading Wikipedia at this point. Used the fake fuckin biggie in the thumbnail. Hey maybe do a different genre Colin
I remember going to camp for the summer this nonsense was happening. I had no idea it was happening. Going to water parks, Niagara Falls, Canada. Riding bikes, fishing, rock skipping. Shooting bows and arrows, picking corn to eat, riding horses. Eating penny candy, beating white boys at basket ball. Like I was having the time of my life. Then had to go home, and being told I have to watch out for what colors I wore because I could be killed for it.
You right, back in the 80’s with fu¥k Compton. And mob style AZ (from paid in full) rap group had beef with NWA before they blew with straight outta Compton
Bruh, you glossed over wayyyyyy too much. You’re already addressing a few activities, why not address the other clap activities? It’s already out there. The participants admitted as much. I like that you voice your opinion and state some facts, but by not pointing out ALL the important facts you paint the wrong picture. Come on, bruh. Like Pac said, “point the perfect picture”. Lol But honestly, paint The Whole Picture.
1980 baby here. I remember Thinking Tupac would make it through and then my Mom coming in my room to tell me Tupac died. Only rap song I ever heard her listen to was the Tupac and Jon B track are you still down. That’s how big of a star he was though. I played the Biggie ready to die album consistently for at least a year. First time I heard Juicy I must’ve been in either 8th or 9th grade and a classmate Was playing it on the muni bus. Had never really heard anything like it at the time. Two legends both gone over some bullshit gang related or not it’s all stupid.
I was 16 when Pac and Biggie died . I remember thinking that they were old at 25 and 24. Now that I'm 42 I realize just how young that they were. So sad Smh.
That's what's up. .my. moms loved her job b nd Tupac have me listening to this day it wasnt no gangs etc that was p devil diddy work gassing biggie up pac nd biggie was homies real homies
Ice T never gets the credit he deserves. 6 in the morning came out in 1986 and Ice T was already having deals offered before that. Granted I do remember seeing Too Short Invasion Of The Flat Booty’s closer to 85. But Ice T was featured in Breakin before he was gangster rapping and he’s credited as the 1st rapper with a Parental Advisory on his album. Give him his flowers.
To be fair this is the only person in the world I’ve ever heard give Too Short credit for creating “gangster rap” and west coast music lol. If anything I’ve heard Too Short being credited for influencing early Southern rap and obviously the Bay. Everyone from Geto Boyz, Ugk and Goodie Mob credited Too Short w/ influencing their sound. Early Southern hiphop was slow and laid back. Ice T has always been viewed as the father of West Coast rap and “gangster rap” as a genre. He was far more aggressive and political aka “Cop Killa!!!”
"Do as little for a girl n see how much she can do for you". I appreciate west coast rappers today that still stick to this script. Cali culture is not about throwing hella money at bitch...thats the south
Foh yall made our strip clubs hella money. Especially during freak nik. We can spot an out of towner a mile away cause yall act like yall never seen cornbread thick girls before 😆
It's crazy being born in the 90's we've heard this story 100× over ...2010 on up this topic is overshadowed by the lives & deaths of this eras rap beefs
Pac brought Biggie to his concerts and would let Biggie perform in the middle of his set. Also the East Coast West Coast beef started with Suge and Puffy at Jermaine Dupris BDay party with a deadly shooting. You need to do some more research and remake this.
FACTS!!!!! “You can’t put this on me Suge, you can’t put this on me”… That’s what Puffy was screaming out after Suge best friend got killed and just like u said that’s what started it.
Exactly!!!! It was really a low key at the time like Snoop talked about before West Coast rappers felt like they weren’t getting the “red carpet” treatment in the same way the West showed love. But your right it was far from an overt beef.
But Bad Boy dropping Who Shot Ya weeks after the Tupac shooting was the dumbest thing ever. Even if it was recorded before the shooting you don’t drop that song at that point.
@@hoodieleek4272 uhhh yess he was. Tf are u talking bout. U better research. And Big never had anything to do with pac getting shot. So wtf are u talking bout?
Biggie got setup in Sacramento at a Fake concert and got hemmed up by some goons. E-40 got on the phone and told the Goons to let him walk and had people escort him to the airport. Biggie could have got touched along time ago. 40 pulled a Boss move.
Biggie rarely ever spoke to the media about anything he always kept it hush like a real one, on the other hand Tupac was Hollywood he did everything for record sales.
Pac's music could resonate with ppl from all walks of life . Didn't matter if you was black/white/Hispanic whatever everyone has lived the struggle and pac's music reflected that . Sure he has songs about doing gangsta shit and getting money but he also had alot of socially conscious music and music that talked about the struggle hence why he was so loved . Biggie's music was kinda one dimensional . He made music for the hustlers and drug dealers and dudes/chicks heavy in the streets . Both are legends though R.I.P to both for real. Yeah I lived through this but ain't nobody old though lol . Seasoned yeah but age is just a number I'm not even gonna get into a generational debate here either but I could lol.
U can call it one dimensional but we call it authentic. Tupac was from the suburbs and got a full ride scholarship to an ivy league art school and then "became" gangster
@@mujahidalmasih854whats ”authentic” about biggie? He went for private school, grew up in 7 bedroom house and his parents was rich. I sweat yall NY people are biggest haters and liars ever
Correction people from NY don’t just wake up screaming my g we are confrontational tho & let me clear the air NY never hated on the west probably never understood the politics but we always showed love.
Video Idea: You should discuss some of the gangs before the modern known gangs. ex.) History of.... The Bowery Boys vs Dead Rabbits (What were gangs like before the 1960s? What were some of Americas first gangs? How did local gangs become organized? etc.) It'd be interesting to hear those stories.
I was im my early teens when all this happened. I remember i pre ordered biggies second album and loved it. Still think its one of the best rap albums ever
@@jamalswann7786 don’t forget about the source too I’m from east coast Baltimore to be exact ny niggas refuse to admit they was hating hard and really was the ones who started it people like funk master flex refusing to play west coast music even when it’s a number one song in the country
Your 1992 part was way off about everything being all good. DJ Quik said “the east coast is the enemy” in 1992 on a song with the Penthouse Players Clique
Really poorly researched. Way off the the mark with so many statements. there's so much information from the era available too, shit most people from that era involved in the beef have TH-cam channels, podcasts books and do interviews...
That Atlanta shit is kinda cap gang, the south don’t classify w the East coast and has a different sound all together, 8Ball and MJG had a similar message
The time line is all over the place on this one, suge's source awards speech and dogg pounds new york new york (which the song was not a diss at all) came before pac signed to death row and had nothing to do with him at all
There was a lot going on around the same time period of 92 through 95 such as the Common/Ice Cube beef. Common through sneak shots at the West on his song "I Used To Love Her" released in 94. Ice Cube responded back in 95 with Mack 10's "Westside Slaughterhouse" feat Westside Connection. There was also the Mobb Deep Dogg Pound beef in 95.
"Northern California and Southern California are like completely different states" EXACTLY! Hate getting grouped up with SoCal all the time 😂 WE AIN'T THE SAME!
When comparing Pac and Biggie's music and impact, people tend to forget that 2Pac was on his 6th album when Big dropped his first... yet Smalls rocketed straight to the top as a rival. He only did 2 albums before he died while Pac has a huge body of work (including as Makavelli) to pick great songs from... just goes to show what a talent Mr. Wallace was. Sad a it is that it ended the way it did, I'm glad i got to enjoy these two icons in my lifetime and lived every minute of it.
2Pac literally had only 2 albums released when Big dropped Ready to die, he’d only released 4 albums before he died I don’t know where you figured he’d already released 6!
The Tim dog/Dre & snoop beef came and went fast. It was west coast vs everybody at that point, even uncle Luke was beefin wit them. Tim wasn’t a factor in NY so wasn’t nobody behind him like that but they didn’t like us then as a whole the same way they don’t now, it ain’t nothin new but it’s not funk on site… the bad boy/death row beef started with suge, his best friend, puff, and his body guard. Look that up. Pac knew big and puff didn’t do it, its pretty public who did, pac pinned it on them cuz he felt they knew what was goin down because that was they city, and they were supposed to be boys so he went and clicked up with suge. As far as who killed who 🤫 both open cases, just do some digging the truth is out there… a lot of lies too
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We lived through this, gang banging, 911, the crack era, & covid. We aren’t old; we’re legendary survivors.
Facts and we still here strong as fuck we are living legends
No you not😂😂
@@jamalswann7786 💯💯💯💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾
And I can’t even beef with a man named saucy boy see u proved my point we are not the same lol
Lighting in a bottle
We almost had East vs West Part II in 2005 when The Game & 50 Cent BEEF turned to gunplay in New York
Yep
Bro it's still going on now
Allegedly. I don't buy it
@@alberthaystowniv146 Nah, not anymore but there's still a lot of tension, mainly hate from the west coast since i guess they're jealous that their music scene died out back in 2019-2020 and new york took over. I know a 30s in LA that told me that they don't fw foreign rappers because they wanna be the only rapping city or some shit like that, LA niggas still hate new york niggas heavy but that hate isn't the same here since we been moved on from that shit
@ares5124 I'm from the Southern USA, with our Hip Hop being the best since the 1980s. The problem is Edwin Edwards, David Duke, Master P,&War on Drugs being a Federal Government Politicians being Russian Oligarch. State of Louisiana has a court case about this. The Federal Government Lifestyle with DEA Chad Scott. Are the Tupac, Biggie,Fat Pat,&they tried to murder me in 2013.
The 90’s didn’t use that “snitch” term as loosely as these internet thugs today do
Facts that could get you hurt especially if you didn’t have any solid proof 🤐
@@kushtalksrealtalk6681 on mommaz
@@Pitbull_expert Mfks don’t have values morals or integrity these days all these youngins in the wind 💨
@@kushtalksrealtalk6681 facts mfs don’t know and I see a lot of throwing that word rat around with no proof when the man aint make no statement or testify not even get nobody put in jail but hisself an did his time cause he ain’t snitch but you got mfs saying he a rat but whole time they really be the rate smh and I also see that mfs especially in my city honor these rats 🐀 cause they got cheese 🧀smh it’s really sick whack all rats C.O.S. CODE OF SILENCE🤫we don’t honor rats
@@DevonteM317 say det fam I totally agree
People don’t realize that if Snoop had said “Fuck the East Coast” at that Source awards, the beef would’ve cost a lot more lives.
and tupac
@@jovanheer tupac wasnt there jovan-e. He was in jail.
what is the crack era
@@vonte0212 i cant believe you just asked that. i hope you're not from America.
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Why is the fake Biggie in the thumbnail? 🤨
Cause he fake. Biggie was white. His life and career robbed from him. Ripis the black biggie
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LOL didn't even notice
He did say he wasnt born yet 😂
I noticed that too and I wasn't sure where the story was going to go
"F**k With Dre Day" is the name of the song that Tim Dog is mentioned on the Chronic. Not sure if anyone mentioned it plus you have the video snippets from the song in your actual video. 300+ comments is a lot to go through. Keep grinding bro and I love the content.
Like how do you not know the words to “F With Dre Day” but your doing all these videos about California street activities. I don’t get it. Just Stop. Do videos about Skateboarding.
@@drvpgxd fr tho. the shit was even on GTA San Andreas. I cant stand culture vultures. Idc if they from Cali or not , they not from South of the 10 freeway ,i know that much
Too short and E-40 went platinum out the trunk.
W
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Westside bloods nations 4life!!!!
This fool narrating prolly never heard of E-40, he's an ultracrepidarian historian. V-town and the Bay was responsible for an enormous amount of great music!
Love Too Short!!!💯💯💯
I didn’t know Biggie and Tupac first met at the poetic justice shoot. 😳 This is such an interesting and a good story.
Foreal
I don't know if the word "good" should be used to describe it, but nonetheless, it was a good video and it is very interesting history to speculate over.
They didn’t they met at Howard’s homecoming
The back story on this one is garbage. Northern California rappers never gaf about LA rap. The Bay loved all LA rappers that made good music. It was all about the music back then. The whole “lingo stealing” shit started with E 40. Before that it was always love. Even after that it’s love. Only difference is the markets. You got a dude like Locksmith who can go bar for bar with anyone but he’s not in the right market.
He was making so many bullshit statements that I actually think are opinions of his.
@@IVdarealonly No doubt
Y’all always hating on us like everybody else LA vs everybody
Btw locksmith is trash
@@kinggio7833 not me I rep all Westcoast LA to the bay!
The quad shooting was in 1994 not ‘95. PAC was at death row by then😂😂
do NOT get rid of your "Let me run the intro" line. i dig that shit!
Facts
Haha be half way through the video talking bout starting the intro 💀
@@LScentral we aint gone talk about how you about to drop some heat too lol
@@LScentral yoo what are you doing here?
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He dissed Tim Dog in Dre Day Snoop said "Tim M.U.T your bark was loud but yo bite wasn't visious / and them rhymes you was kicking was quite bootylious " 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Weak ass punch line
Dj Quik is weaved throughout this whole thing, he should’ve been given some credit! He was the main one poppin in the West after NWA and before Snoop. Quik beefed with Tim Dogg and NY at the same time. Quik was with Death Row during the whole time of the beef and the Source awards, even performed on stage with them! Quik mixed and mastered the whole All Eyez On Me project! Quik was even accused of having part in Biggie’s murder because him and his Pirus were at the event. He was super active during all of this, I’m surprised he was left out of this video.
Quick so cal
E40 nor cal
To keep it in context
But actually he had nothing to do with any of it he just put himself in the story like so many other people
QUIK was the banging on west as OG original gangster rapper and producer at the same time. West coast compton California pioneers.
Tim Dogg and DJ Muggs was mad hating DJ Quik back then
Quik was right after Eazy he a dope producer n rapper miss n Oakland know bout Quik on Çitas!!
Decades later, they’re banging colors on the east coast and trying their hand in gangsta rap and drill rap 😂
NY made up gangs and drill is done better by NY. NY started rap
Gangster rap started in Pennsylvania…and we don’t bang either Nigga
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no but they stole it from Chi @@jojoxxi
@@jojoxxi LA made rap gangsta, drill is gangster trap
West Coast always knows how to Party. In the city, City of Compton. I’m proud to have been Rise in the CPT I was only 1yr old when the family came from Mexico. Shout out to the Crips, Bloods and the Eses. No Disrespect to no one ☝️ one Love.
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West Coast Rules
Y'all so corny 😭
You skipped the whole situation that really started East West beef, Suge and Diddy was at a Jermaine Dupri party where Diddys body guard Wolf killed Suges homie Jake
I think they was after PAC died
@@kaysworld111 in 95, Pac might’ve been jail when that happened.
@@IAmCassoo maybe gotta look into that
They don't know the story , they piece together internet gossip and drop their own version probably was in pampers when the shit popped off .
Im not american and english isnt my first language so its hard for me to understand the full story but as I understand it its like this: Rappers from LA were very popular, rappers from NY got jealous and dissed LA, 2pac from LA got shot and blamed biggie from NY, Suge knight made him sign to deathrow after he came out of jail, he dropped a disstrack, then he got killed, and 6 months later biggie was also shot.
Is this the story or am I not understanding it right? And why did pac even blame biggie for his shooting? And why are some people saying suge was the one who killed pac even tho pac was west coast like suge?
Nah bro how you skip over Ice T he was the first who put gangsta rap on the map on the west coast and Los Angeles and that was before Too Short. But close otherwise. Short was after. And you forgot to mention how the New York New York video shoot was shot up and it was because Biggie got on the Radio and said they was filming in New York.
Big facts. It’s disrespect because Ice T was rapping during the height of Breakin and Poppin. And credited with the 1st gangsta rap song 6 in the morning.
Yup and 6 in the morning was modeled after PSK by Schooly D from Philly. AndBoyz n the hood too
@@tokatv6713 right he don’t kno shit pac got shot in 94
Facts I was waiting for it too 😂
Ice T was hustler music not gangster rap...Too Short wasn't gangster rap either
Lil homie, this story has been told WAY too many times for you to have gotten this much shit blatantly wrong 🤣
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lol Tupac is from the East Coast... where is swamp stories getting their info
@@terrancecaldwell6175 but he reps westcoast to the fullest
@@CPTxRAGE dont matter, hes east coast ballerina
He tells on himself regularly. Ol vulture ass boy.
Couldn't even get the thumbnail right.
He's basically just reading Wikipedia at this point. Used the fake fuckin biggie in the thumbnail. Hey maybe do a different genre Colin
Swamp Storiez, This Has To Be One The Best Video's Yet! 💯 East Coast Vs. West Coast 🔥🔥
If social media existed back in the day the East Coast versus West Coast war will be on a whole another level Everybody would be dead
Damn swamp this is the worst one I've seen you done so far fam. Still a fan but just slow down a lil champ
I remember going to camp for the summer this nonsense was happening. I had no idea it was happening. Going to water parks, Niagara Falls, Canada. Riding bikes, fishing, rock skipping. Shooting bows and arrows, picking corn to eat, riding horses. Eating penny candy, beating white boys at basket ball. Like I was having the time of my life. Then had to go home, and being told I have to watch out for what colors I wore because I could be killed for it.
I swear Tim Dogg be so overlooked in the East vs West.. He started it..
Bad history story. This subject has lots of layers to it
You right, back in the 80’s with fu¥k Compton. And mob style AZ (from paid in full) rap group had beef with NWA before they blew with straight outta Compton
I bought Tim Dogs tape in 8th grade. That shit was so wack I couldn't understand how he got a record deal. Wack AF.
No he was just the visual for most New Yorkers opinion and he was the only one willing enough to make a gimic out of it and some money , clout
@@yashayasoldierofyasharala3597 So true. Mob Style was raw. They exposed most NWA which were phony gangsters except for Ren and Eazy E
Should have talked about how Puff/Bad Boy had protection by the crips whenever they were in LA
Really cause big got smoked.
LOVE YOUR CONTENT BRO I LOOK FORWARD TO YOUR VIDEOS EVERY WEEK PLEASE KEEP IT GOING MAN
Bruh, you glossed over wayyyyyy too much. You’re already addressing a few activities, why not address the other clap activities? It’s already out there. The participants admitted as much. I like that you voice your opinion and state some facts, but by not pointing out ALL the important facts you paint the wrong picture. Come on, bruh. Like Pac said, “point the perfect picture”. Lol But honestly, paint The Whole Picture.
Either say what you know or shut up
@@ericherstedt3217 🤡
@@Ricard00000 you look like a bozo, so fitting emoji
Not to mention its too full of his opinions
HMMM I JST BURNT MY TONGUE 👅
He’s not lying about NYers and east coasters. Coming from Georgia and migrating to Cali: WAY more chill out here. 😂
LOL you fumbled the bag on this one youngsta
1980 baby here. I remember Thinking Tupac would make it through and then my Mom coming in my room to tell me Tupac died. Only rap song I ever heard her listen to was the Tupac and Jon B track are you still down. That’s how big of a star he was though. I played the Biggie ready to die album consistently for at least a year. First time I heard Juicy I must’ve been in either 8th or 9th grade and a classmate Was playing it on the muni bus. Had never really heard anything like it at the time. Two legends both gone over some bullshit gang related or not it’s all stupid.
Shout out to the San Francisco muni buses. Smells like piss but feels like home
@@topshotta684 lol. Yep
It’s that ego shit JFK was talking about
I was 16 when Pac and Biggie died .
I remember thinking that they were old at 25 and 24. Now that I'm 42 I realize just how young that they were. So sad Smh.
That's what's up. .my. moms loved her job b nd Tupac have me listening to this day it wasnt no gangs etc that was p devil diddy work gassing biggie up pac nd biggie was homies real homies
Ice T never gets the credit he deserves. 6 in the morning came out in 1986 and Ice T was already having deals offered before that. Granted I do remember seeing Too Short Invasion Of The Flat Booty’s closer to 85. But Ice T was featured in Breakin before he was gangster rapping and he’s credited as the 1st rapper with a Parental Advisory on his album. Give him his flowers.
That’s exactly what I was thinking like wtf west coast rap didn’t start in northen Cali 🤣
@@oscarsaravia9964Long Live Mac Dre ima do it for the Bay!!💯
Ice T is from New Jersey lol
To be fair this is the only person in the world I’ve ever heard give Too Short credit for creating “gangster rap” and west coast music lol. If anything I’ve heard Too Short being credited for influencing early Southern rap and obviously the Bay. Everyone from Geto Boyz, Ugk and Goodie Mob credited Too Short w/ influencing their sound. Early Southern hiphop was slow and laid back. Ice T has always been viewed as the father of West Coast rap and “gangster rap” as a genre. He was far more aggressive and political aka “Cop Killa!!!”
@@oscarsaravia9964 this white guy don't know what he talking about
Snoop called him "TIM M.U.T." on Dre day
i swear east and west coast be best friends until one thing happens
Love your stores bro but gotta tbh....most of the content on this topic is false. Smh need to do ur homework more thoroughly.
Just terrible
Lol not gona lie. The part where he talks like the east coast was very respectful to women is hilarious 😂 😂😂😂😭
Fr, the whole tupoc vs biggie thing wasn’t so one sided.
Fucking CULTURE VULTURE bet he dont know who grand master CASS IS
"Do as little for a girl n see how much she can do for you". I appreciate west coast rappers today that still stick to this script. Cali culture is not about throwing hella money at bitch...thats the south
Foh yall made our strip clubs hella money. Especially during freak nik. We can spot an out of towner a mile away cause yall act like yall never seen cornbread thick girls before 😆
@@cmcneil233 nigga that's why I said I appreciate the mfs who stick to the code n dont be doin that shit
He got the fake movie big!!! 🤣🤣🤣
Suga free! This a great video covered alot of important topics
I might be getting old? Na, I've been old. Wait am I the only "old head" in here? Where the 80's babies 90's teens at?
Just missed the cut lol Born 87 didn't turn 13 until 2000
@@at2130 I'm 1991 but anything better then being a 2000s baby🤷😎👑🙌
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My brothers 91. Things started going left real quick after that lol I'm thankful everyday I'ma 80s baby and the 90s raised me.
It's crazy being born in the 90's we've heard this story 100× over ...2010 on up this topic is overshadowed by the lives & deaths of this eras rap beefs
The song Dre dissed Tim dog was Fucking with Dre day
Still bumpin Life Goes On to this day
This might be one of the best videos I’ve seen on TH-cam
Cancel swamp stories for the time being, he’s in time out for a month
I’m from NY and can confirm I wake up every morning yelling at the mirror
Pac brought Biggie to his concerts and would let Biggie perform in the middle of his set. Also the East Coast West Coast beef started with Suge and Puffy at Jermaine Dupris BDay party with a deadly shooting. You need to do some more research and remake this.
Just terrible swamp stories this is your worst work yet
The ignorancy the audacity To speak on such a touchy subject with not all the facts in line, slap yourself Swamp stories
FACTS!!!!! “You can’t put this on me Suge, you can’t put this on me”… That’s what Puffy was screaming out after Suge best friend got killed and just like u said that’s what started it.
Also 2pac went over to Orlando bcuz the guy his boy pointed him out over a chain snatching incident. He messed up that part.
You missed the big Jake situation in Atlanta between Puff and Suge way before Tupac
When wolf got killed? I always read his comments before i watch his videos and if this not included im definitely not watchin this shit
@@MysticFromMontbello Wolf got killed by BMF like 10 years after he killed Jake. Around 2003 or 2004.
@@E_Cleazy ohhhhh ok. Them niggas had waaaaay too much goin on
Puff is a punk
I love swamp stories and I’ve been a day one fan,but In the late 80s eastcoast and west coast rappers tour together and they get along great.
Exactly!!!! It was really a low key at the time like Snoop talked about before West Coast rappers felt like they weren’t getting the “red carpet” treatment in the same way the West showed love. But your right it was far from an overt beef.
But Bad Boy dropping Who Shot Ya weeks after the Tupac shooting was the dumbest thing ever. Even if it was recorded before the shooting you don’t drop that song at that point.
Facts. It added fuel to the fire.
At the end of the day he never once retaliated other than that and he even wrote that before all the BS.. so?
How? Tupac was already dissing them at the time. U obviously wasn’t around
@@Pit_Python no, Pac wasn’t dissing anything cuz he was in jail. Even before he went in jail he ain’t diss nobody on the East.
@@hoodieleek4272 uhhh yess he was. Tf are u talking bout. U better research. And Big never had anything to do with pac getting shot. So wtf are u talking bout?
So we just gon’ ignore SugaBear walking straight into that elbow? 🤨 13:39
I wasn’t even born when this happened i don’t even live in America but im so invested lol😂
Biggie got setup in Sacramento at a Fake concert and got hemmed up by some goons. E-40 got on the phone and told the Goons to let him walk and had people escort him to the airport. Biggie could have got touched along time ago. 40 pulled a Boss move.
Did biggie ever speak on this?
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Not sure but 40 did
Biggie rarely ever spoke to the media about anything he always kept it hush like a real one, on the other hand Tupac was Hollywood he did everything for record sales.
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Biggies manager actually brought it up in some DVD hella years after he died. 40 only spoke about years later when asked about it.
Yeah manager but BIG himself never spoke on bullshit ever? Am I wrong?
Pac's music could resonate with ppl from all walks of life . Didn't matter if you was black/white/Hispanic whatever everyone has lived the struggle and pac's music reflected that . Sure he has songs about doing gangsta shit and getting money but he also had alot of socially conscious music and music that talked about the struggle hence why he was so loved . Biggie's music was kinda one dimensional . He made music for the hustlers and drug dealers and dudes/chicks heavy in the streets . Both are legends though R.I.P to both for real. Yeah I lived through this but ain't nobody old though lol . Seasoned yeah but age is just a number I'm not even gonna get into a generational debate here either but I could lol.
U can call it one dimensional but we call it authentic. Tupac was from the suburbs and got a full ride scholarship to an ivy league art school and then "became" gangster
@@mujahidalmasih854whats ”authentic” about biggie? He went for private school, grew up in 7 bedroom house and his parents was rich. I sweat yall NY people are biggest haters and liars ever
Biggie had songs everyone could relate to you just know all the ones he got famous for
Doubts bruv.
@mujahidalmasih854 What suburbs was 2pac from d ummy?You probably weren't even around when Pac was reigning.
Correction people from NY don’t just wake up screaming my g we are confrontational tho & let me clear the air NY never hated on the west probably never understood the politics but we always showed love.
Video Idea:
You should discuss some of the gangs before the modern known gangs.
ex.)
History of....
The Bowery Boys vs Dead Rabbits
(What were gangs like before the 1960s? What were some of Americas first gangs? How did local gangs become organized? etc.)
It'd be interesting to hear those stories.
You left out the part about Biggie gettin’ Pressed in Sacramento, by E-40 & his homies from Sac & the Bay.
Imagine fucking Puffy was the mature one in this situation. 🤣
Well I was 18 when Pac and Big were killed RIP! HipHop was no joke!
Props on the upload 👊🏾
Me too… I was born in 78
I was 16 born in 80. Glad to see us 40 year olds up in here. .. Didn't think hip hop would take us this far huh lol
I was 5-6 when pac died😭
I was born in Baltimore Maryland at late 90's
The fact he said let's dive right in and show Trey Songz and the splash emoji was funny as fuck 🤣
Too Short is a living legend.
This is golden. You are the G.O.A.T
Yea we getting old but we got to live in the 80s and90s and aint nothing better. This new gen i feel bad for.
My guy you are doing amazing!!!! Don't think I didn't notice that increased time on the videos-awesome!!
I was im my early teens when all this happened. I remember i pre ordered biggies second album and loved it. Still think its one of the best rap albums ever
Russell Wilson, taste of the future, you’re wild af man 🤣
There’s no back story. Lol Vibe magazine started it. And to be really real . Tim Dog was the first one to crack it off
W
Vibe was a east coast magazine and never gave love to the west coast and was hella disrespectful until the west start banging on them
@@jamalswann7786 hence why the problems started
@@jamalswann7786 don’t forget about the source too I’m from east coast Baltimore to be exact ny niggas refuse to admit they was hating hard and really was the ones who started it people like funk master flex refusing to play west coast music even when it’s a number one song in the country
Witnesses said Faith Went to the studio and Pac Hotel room.. and the People Guarding the Door says it Went down.
Pro athletes ALWAYS vacationed together. Please don't let your Uncle and Dad lie about 80s and 90s sports.
The common denominator is Diddy
I think all roads lead back to him
He was power hungry, and ruthless
Your 1992 part was way off about everything being all good. DJ Quik said “the east coast is the enemy” in 1992 on a song with the Penthouse Players Clique
Really poorly researched. Way off the the mark with so many statements. there's so much information from the era available too, shit most people from that era involved in the beef have TH-cam channels, podcasts books and do interviews...
Playa Ham
Man I never heard that song
@@Youngkamikaze exactly!!! Makes u question all his other videos. Ppl really just put up anything on the internet.
Yo this dude is a gem to the journalism game Swampz is definitely tapped in. Great Video
Always Look For Your Show,It always I Good Facts Story 💯 ❗
born in 85 and grew up with this..shit I'm old now lol...love it!!
That Atlanta shit is kinda cap gang, the south don’t classify w the East coast and has a different sound all together, 8Ball and MJG had a similar message
After that p diddy video we need a part two of that also W VS E videos go so hard so entertaining I subbed
Forgot to mention biggie came out with “who shot ya” after Pac got set up
bro...
From Oct 96 - Mar 97...
MANE...
that was the craziest time in rap history... OMG
Your dates are fucked up and sequence out of position but you’re on your way frfr 💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾
"Shut up. LA did it better. Let's stop the whining." Ddaayyuumm😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂
RIP THE GREATS PAC AND BIGGIE 🙏🏾🐐🐐
Love being born and raised from the CPT. I love all the crips and eses. Nothing but love around here.
Too short one of the og goats in rap in my opinion
DJ Quik’s 1987 Underground tape should be mentioned
The time line is all over the place on this one, suge's source awards speech and dogg pounds new york new york (which the song was not a diss at all) came before pac signed to death row and had nothing to do with him at all
Bruuuhhhhh!!! I was waiting for that epic #Bamm!!! Like a Mug 🍺 !!! #DopeAssPunchLine
Great breakdown. You’re first date is wrong. 2pac didn’t get shot the first time in 95. It was 93
Was 94
How the hell swamp go from 93 to 92 then to 1995 Ctfu. Timeline all f*cked up 😭😭😭😭
There was a lot going on around the same time period of 92 through 95 such as the Common/Ice Cube beef. Common through sneak shots at the West on his song "I Used To Love Her" released in 94. Ice Cube responded back in 95 with Mack 10's "Westside Slaughterhouse" feat Westside Connection. There was also the Mobb Deep Dogg Pound beef in 95.
I’m loving these bro
Gotta do Portland Oregon my g
"Northern California and Southern California are like completely different states" EXACTLY! Hate getting grouped up with SoCal all the time 😂 WE AIN'T THE SAME!
Naw we aint....We like y'all as much as y'all like us...dont get it wrong homie
I laughed thru this whole shit...lol
Snoop, “Tim D.O.G. your bark was loud but your bite wasn’t vicious “! G Thang
My bad Dre Day
Very well done young man. You learned very well.
This is a trash account. This dude has no idea what he's talking about
about...
“Tupocs music withstood the test of time better then biggies”
Lmao it did not😂
Swamp that was industry shit we always loved the West
Wanted to love this. Clearly, there is energy. But bro gotta give true historiography and honesty. This is the danger of internet..smh
When comparing Pac and Biggie's music and impact, people tend to forget that 2Pac was on his 6th album when Big dropped his first... yet Smalls rocketed straight to the top as a rival. He only did 2 albums before he died while Pac has a huge body of work (including as Makavelli) to pick great songs from... just goes to show what a talent Mr. Wallace was. Sad a it is that it ended the way it did, I'm glad i got to enjoy these two icons in my lifetime and lived every minute of it.
2Pac literally had only 2 albums released when Big dropped Ready to die, he’d only released 4 albums before he died I don’t know where you figured he’d already released 6!
Pac was locked up in San Quentin not Riker's 😂
I definitely listened more to Tupac, but I liked biggie too. I was devastated when pac died though. I was in 10th grade in class when I heard
Song where Dre dissed Tim Dog was F Wit Dre Day (and Everybody Celebrain)
The Tim dog/Dre & snoop beef came and went fast. It was west coast vs everybody at that point, even uncle Luke was beefin wit them. Tim wasn’t a factor in NY so wasn’t nobody behind him like that but they didn’t like us then as a whole the same way they don’t now, it ain’t nothin new but it’s not funk on site… the bad boy/death row beef started with suge, his best friend, puff, and his body guard. Look that up. Pac knew big and puff didn’t do it, its pretty public who did, pac pinned it on them cuz he felt they knew what was goin down because that was they city, and they were supposed to be boys so he went and clicked up with suge. As far as who killed who 🤫 both open cases, just do some digging the truth is out there… a lot of lies too
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Dudddeeeee that is actually such a legendary scene image 2pac AND biggie rap battling ina bbq nothin but good vibes 🔥🔥