Here in the UK we have the same problem with steel hulled narrowboats in marinas. To overcome the problem we fit galvanic isolators to the electrical system. Victron are very popular.
⛵Enjoy your videos, can't wait to see you guys enjoying the fruits of your labors. I bet there are a lot of old landlubbers who are living the life of old salts vicariously through you
Wow, what a mess the corrosion caused on your sail drives. Glad to see that you were able to get replacements so fast and even saved a little using eBay for one of them.
⛵️I just hope that the corrosion hasn’t damaged any of the cooling water systems on your engines as well. Great watching you connect although bad luck having to cope with the corrosion on a boat that you are about to sell. On another note I applaud you for repairing the problems and not passing them on to the new owners.
If the external zinc were depleted so fast that it started corroding the sail drive casings, one can imagine what the engine zincs (which are much smaller) must look like if there is anything left of them. I don't have the answer to this but very curious to know, when the engine sacrificial zincs are gone, what is likely the next thing (within the power plant) to get attacked?
⛵ First kid.... don't put that in your mouth! It's dirty! .... Second kid: Pick that up off the ground and put it in your mouth. "God made dirt and dirt don't hurt!" 🤣 Love that you tell us how things work!!!
⛵ Thanks for letting us see into all aspects of the ⛵ Life . Sid your a very brave woman for letting your Dad & Mom air you sucking on the hose it show how much you are committed to the ⛵ and the Life. "CHEERS!"
Instead of sucking on the end of the siphon hose, attach the lower end to a tap (faucet) and run water up the pipe until it runs out the top end, then quickly disconnect it from the tap. The flow will reverse and away it goes.
⛵️Hey guys. Just found your channel and have got caught up on all your videos. Massive binge watch for me. I was so glad you decided to keep the Leopard. I am from South Africa and have done work with Robertson and Caine, not directly on the boats, but with their I.T. Dept. It's very cool to see such a beautiful boat saved and I was delighted to see that the factory (a great group of people) was willing to help get her back on the water.
You guy are doing great service to those who want to buy a boat, but looking for a excuse not to buy one , owning a boat definitely has some positive things, but negative aspects definitely outweighs the positives , great video .
@@SailingDauntless True but bronze and marine stainless steel will not go south in a few weeks like can happen to aluminum. It is a much slower process.
⛵️ You’d think that after several thousand years of sailing ships, well ok a few hundred years of sailing metal ships, they’d have the galvanic problem figured out. Good luck.
⛵ It sounds like where you had it parked at that they do not have it grounded correctly. They also have a Catamaran and I wonder if this is also happening to their boat.
👍 ⛵️ so good to experience all your boating projects from the safety of my home!……. At least I can’t damage my own boat from here for now. Though seeing your courage and teamwork is helping me believe it can be done!
Yup yanmar mostly like to push Ali “zincs” which supposedly work in salt and fresh water with proper zincs only working in sea water. You need to buy aftermarket to get proper zinc ones
⛵ it's really fascinating to see how much damage can happen from a bad circuit on land guess it goes to show you might want to double check your ground faults before plugging in for an extended period of time
Was this a grounding issue with the boat or the dock? The zincs near the through hole looked to be in decent shape, does that mean the circuit was being completed through the sail drives only?
⛵, Poor Sydney!!!! As always thanks for explaining "stuff" to us landlubbers.......I hate that this happened before you could get the boat transferred to the new owners. Although it is really educational. Hope all is well with the family.
Are you guys sure you don't have stray current within the boat itself? Improper grounding, polarity reversal etc could cause this. If it was due to stray current at the dock, wouldn't the other boats be effected the same way? Just a thought.
My first thought: isolation transformer. Of course in days gone by where everything was A: 12v and/or B: separate AC where most appliances were "double insulated (2 Prong)". The AC from the dock was isolated pretty much anyway. The older battery chargers were transformer based. So effectively isolated. Today most battery chargers are transformerless switchers and are properly grounded to one of the DC sides for safety. AC loads are more and more grounded instead of double insulated because they are made for household use where that makes sense, not made for marine use. A one to one isolation transformer between dock power and any AC use on the dock would solve that. So shore power-> isolation transformer->battery charger. Run all boat appliances from battery. While it is true that running AC loads directly from the isolation transformer would make sense at dock, one hopes that time at dock would be minimal anyway so minimize AC loads (AC means alternating current, not air con ;) ) in the first place and run those that are left with inverter accepting the loss when at dock.
⛵️ Hoping the underlying problem (wherever it was) gets corrected. If it was at your last dock/marina, wouldn't that make them liable for the damage? In any case, hope it gets fixed before many others have the same issue! Love your content and channel!!
⛵ I got to thinking how long were you docked in Ga. on shore power ? adds up month after month on electrolytic happening over being on your solar power systems. but new home new learning
I’m pretty sure the 50 isn’t plugged in based on them having to jerry rig up a battery when they moved it down and I believe they think this was done because of it being on shore power. That being said if they were having someone clean the bottom of the 45, I’d assume they would be cleaning the 50 as well and would have noticed if it had the same problem.
⛵ Great video. You got lucky catching this. Amazing how fast this corrosion can happen given the correct circumstances.
⛵️so nice to watch all the fun stuff 😀👌🏼
⛵⛵ can't wait to see what caused the electrical leakage
This was something that this corrosion happened so quickly, your daughter gave a good explanation late week on how it occurred.
⛵️Great job! From Denver!
⛵️Another great video.
⛵️ awesome vid's. I love the family unity, the best part of sailing ⛵️
Couldn't agree more!
⛵️ thanks team .. another interesting video.
You guys are so brave! ⛵
⛵️ what a bummer⛵️
Loved the zincs⛵⛵⛵
⛵ Busy folks getting a lot of work done, thank you for sharing! 😀
Here in the UK we have the same problem with steel hulled narrowboats in marinas. To overcome the problem we fit galvanic isolators to the electrical system. Victron are very popular.
⛵️ Wow, that was extremely informative. Incredible how much damage occurred so fast.
⛵SO. MANY. COMMENTS. POSSIBLE.
You both showed admirable restraint.
⛵Enjoy your videos, can't wait to see you guys enjoying the fruits of your labors. I bet there are a lot of old landlubbers who are living the life of old salts vicariously through you
Always enjoy your videos! Thanks for taking us along. ⛵
Good jobs guys.
Your skill level is off the charts
⛵⛵⛵⛵⛵ Draining the bilge was a bit of a hose job so it's a good thing no one got hosed! ⛵⛵⛵⛵⛵
⛵️ wow I learn so much from this channel.
Glad to hear it!
You should definitely get a hose sucker (pump). Some are just sqeeze valves but they work better than sucking on them.
Looking forward to next week.
⛵️ That was something else. Learn something new every day
⛵️ Love watching all your video's. Hope there are no more issues.
⛵ We just hauled out and rebuilt our sail drives 2 weeks ago - feeling your pain ⛵
The tool is now a 6/1
Wow, what a mess the corrosion caused on your sail drives. Glad to see that you were able to get replacements so fast and even saved a little using eBay for one of them.
🎲⛵️ wow the oil squirt was unexpected!!
⛵️I just hope that the corrosion hasn’t damaged any of the cooling water systems on your engines as well. Great watching you connect although bad luck having to cope with the corrosion on a boat that you are about to sell. On another note I applaud you for repairing the problems and not passing them on to the new owners.
If the external zinc were depleted so fast that it started corroding the sail drive casings, one can imagine what the engine zincs (which are much smaller) must look like if there is anything left of them.
I don't have the answer to this but very curious to know, when the engine sacrificial zincs are gone, what is likely the next thing (within the power plant) to get attacked?
I'm so looking forward to this episode
⛵ Thanks for sharing 🇦🇺😁
Your amazing.
⛵
First kid.... don't put that in your mouth! It's dirty! ....
Second kid: Pick that up off the ground and put it in your mouth. "God made dirt and dirt don't hurt!" 🤣
Love that you tell us how things work!!!
⛵⛵⛵⛵⛵⛵⛵⛵⛵⛵ Another Masterclass.👍👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
⛵ Thanks for letting us see into all aspects of the ⛵ Life . Sid your a very brave woman for letting your Dad & Mom air you sucking on the hose it show how much you are committed to the ⛵ and the Life. "CHEERS!"
My imoji is nor working. ⛵️ with. Ok. This is why I fear getting into buying any vessel. Yet, with channels as honest as yours I have learnt so much.
I loved the rock sound!
⛵ Thank you for sharing your adventures with us. ⛵
Thanks for watching!
⛵⛵ Hi! I just wanted to say that I think you guys are amazing, and I'm loving the channel. Cannot wait for the next vlog. Thank you.
⛵️ Enjoy following your trials and travails. Keep up the great work!!
⛵ From Ottawa, Canada.
⛵ There you are....
⛵️Keep up the great work!
Instead of sucking on the end of the siphon hose, attach the lower end to a tap (faucet) and run water up the pipe until it runs out the top end, then quickly disconnect it from the tap. The flow will reverse and away it goes.
⛵️ Enjoyable episode as always!
⛵️Hey guys. Just found your channel and have got caught up on all your videos. Massive binge watch for me. I was so glad you decided to keep the Leopard. I am from South Africa and have done work with Robertson and Caine, not directly on the boats, but with their I.T. Dept. It's very cool to see such a beautiful boat saved and I was delighted to see that the factory (a great group of people) was willing to help get her back on the water.
Made it to the end!😁⛵
You guy are doing great service to those who want to buy a boat, but looking for a excuse not to buy one , owning a boat definitely has some positive things, but negative aspects definitely outweighs the positives , great video .
⛵ This episode and the last makes me glad that I have a conventional shaft. 😪
it can happen to shafts as well!
@@SailingDauntless True but bronze and marine stainless steel will not go south in a few weeks like can happen to aluminum. It is a much slower process.
Great job.
⛵ Have a Happy Memorial Day weekend
⛵️love your videos! I don’t have a sailboat, not yet anyways! Please keep them coming!
⛵️you all are just next level amazing
When you connect to ground power, is there a way to check if you are creating an energized loop to prevent this from happening?
Yes, never connect the shore-ground without a Isolation Transformer. Use a separate ground to the water on your boat.😉
@@Arnaud58 Thanks for the reply.
Thanks, very knowledgeable videos, loving the journey
Glad you like them!
A great display of why you need to replace your zinc anodes way before this point.
⛵️ great explanation of what happened last week. Scary how quickly they deteriorated.
Stay safe 🌲
⛵️ You’d think that after several thousand years of sailing ships, well ok a few hundred years of sailing metal ships, they’d have the galvanic problem figured out. Good luck.
They have, but you've got to use it.😉
A galvanic isolator in the shore power ground line is only a few hundred dollars. Cheap insurance, especially in a boat that expensive.
⛵️ Love the videos.
⛵ keep up the great 🎥
OMG... when you pulled off that "hollow zinc" and it crumbled in your hands, I quite literally gasped in shock.
Wow!!! Found the leak! BUT.... Do you know what triggered this whole mess???
⛵️ Man that pitting was rough! Hopefully no more issues pop up!
⛵️ just curious.. considering the amount of money this problem caused.. is there an inline sensor that could help avoid this?
I don't know of a sensor but a galvanic isolator or an isolation transformer would/should prevent damage like this
Do you have a galvanic isolator on that boat? Wouldn't that provide the necessary protection to keep this from happening again?
That is a reach forklift with a truss boom attachment 😊
Always amzed with your tenacity ! You will be rewarded... just program sailing the caribbean into your sleep dreams⛵
⛵ It sounds like where you had it parked at that they do not have it grounded correctly. They also have a Catamaran and I wonder if this is also happening to their boat.
The oil leaking out seems clear -not creamy. Internal parts are probably worth saving for spares. Edit to add: After seeing the last oil, maybe not.
When you get back in the water DO NOT CONNECT to the shore supply and make sure you isolate your ships batteries!
⛵Love the videos!⛵
Thanks Ty, for letting us learn from your experiences. This was crazy!!! Sorry buddy.
⛵️🤷♂️love the channel
⛵ tastes like oil!
👍 ⛵️ so good to experience all your boating projects from the safety of my home!……. At least I can’t damage my own boat from here for now. Though seeing your courage and teamwork is helping me believe it can be done!
⛵⛵⛵⛵⛵⛵⛵⛵⛵⛵⛵⛵Love watching the vid's
⛵️ (ya got me!) 🤪👏💋
Wasn't that new like a year ago or less ?
Hello from Siesta Key Florida
different boat
Hi, I noticed that your new zinc that you showed had AL on it "aluminum" not zinc. If you are using them that could be part of your problem.
Go back...he showed that the zinc surrounds the AL plate
Yup yanmar mostly like to push Ali “zincs” which supposedly work in salt and fresh water with proper zincs only working in sea water. You need to buy aftermarket to get proper zinc ones
Intergranular corrosion it’s part of the boat joys
⛵ it's really fascinating to see how much damage can happen from a bad circuit on land guess it goes to show you might want to double check your ground faults before plugging in for an extended period of time
You can start syphon with a shop vac as well.
Question, I know you needed to replace the sail drives, but why did you need to pull the engines?
⛵lets hope you recoup the extra costs in the sale price.
Do you have an isolation transformer on the boat? That might help.
Was this a grounding issue with the boat or the dock? The zincs near the through hole looked to be in decent shape, does that mean the circuit was being completed through the sail drives only?
⛵, Poor Sydney!!!! As always thanks for explaining "stuff" to us landlubbers.......I hate that this happened before you could get the boat transferred to the new owners. Although it is really educational. Hope all is well with the family.
Are you guys sure you don't have stray current within the boat itself? Improper grounding, polarity reversal etc could cause this. If it was due to stray current at the dock, wouldn't the other boats be effected the same way? Just a thought.
The 50 wasn't plugged in , so it's Ok
My first thought: isolation transformer. Of course in days gone by where everything was A: 12v and/or B: separate AC where most appliances were "double insulated (2 Prong)". The AC from the dock was isolated pretty much anyway. The older battery chargers were transformer based. So effectively isolated. Today most battery chargers are transformerless switchers and are properly grounded to one of the DC sides for safety. AC loads are more and more grounded instead of double insulated because they are made for household use where that makes sense, not made for marine use. A one to one isolation transformer between dock power and any AC use on the dock would solve that. So shore power-> isolation transformer->battery charger. Run all boat appliances from battery. While it is true that running AC loads directly from the isolation transformer would make sense at dock, one hopes that time at dock would be minimal anyway so minimize AC loads (AC means alternating current, not air con ;) ) in the first place and run those that are left with inverter accepting the loss when at dock.
⛵️ Hoping the underlying problem (wherever it was) gets corrected. If it was at your last dock/marina, wouldn't that make them liable for the damage? In any case, hope it gets fixed before many others have the same issue! Love your content and channel!!
⛵⛵⛵ Hope you guys don't encounter any more setbacks...
⛵ I really wish I could afford Dauntless. The new owners are getting a fine vessel.
⛵️ So fast this issue came up
⛵ I got to thinking how long were you docked in Ga. on shore power ? adds up month after month on electrolytic happening over being on your solar power systems. but new home new learning
This damage didn't migrate into the engines did it? I hope it didn't.
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⛵️⛵️⛵️⛵️⚓️⚓️, great episode, amazing how much corrosion happened so quickly.
Did you check the 50 too??
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I’m pretty sure the 50 isn’t plugged in based on them having to jerry rig up a battery when they moved it down and I believe they think this was done because of it being on shore power. That being said if they were having someone clean the bottom of the 45, I’d assume they would be cleaning the 50 as well and would have noticed if it had the same problem.
Set steel buildings (about two of them will do it) and you will become expert on guiding a boom lift!
⛵️woot
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