Nintendo Respond To & Apologize For Pokemon Scarlet/Violet's Messy & Mocked Launch
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"We take players' feedback seriously." Then Nintendo/Game Freak's leadership and management should've known better than to knowingly launch the new Pokemon games in this state. The feedback of, "stop rushing games to launch," is pretty universal.
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If Nintendo apologises for all the problems in Pokemon Scarlet and Violet, you know it’s real bad.
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I haven't encountered these problems
for once pokemon gets called out
Indeed. Glad they doing something. And glad people said something too.
@@0816M3RC most of them occur online.
The fact that they actually offered refunds is crazy. The worst part is, they CAN do better than this. Just when I thought Arceus wasn't that bad, they half-assed this game.
"They CAN do better."
That is true, considering the amount of money Nintendo/Game-Freak have, it seems they were too frugal for the game to have more polish/performance.
they have been doing bare minimum for years cause the fans allow and even DEFENDED it
Pokémon will be outsourced to triple A developers now. So wait for Gen X in Pokémon 30th anniversary. Hopefully voice acting and high quality animations.
Raheem Rohlehr This Pokemon 76 made Arceus look like decent! And Nintendon't with TPC love money and revenue only 😆
What more do you want 🙄.
"Sorry we released the game in a buggy state, it will happen again."
And people will still buy it day one and wonder why this keeps happening 😮💨
Sad but most likely true. Although I have seen changes like the double kick animation not being just a silly jump and actually having effort put into it.
It will continue to happen until the next game and it will repeat itself
Given how much money it made and how many fans still blindly support it, that's a very real possibility.
@@cjenkins9228 I'm not defending the state of the game, but I don't know why people like you assume that those groups overlap a ton. Very likely, many of the people who bought it Day One are still enjoying it, even if they're frustrated with the bugs, and will continue to be apologists. And I'm guessing most of the people who (understandably) take serious issue with this, did not pre-order or buy Day One.
Then again, I may well be wrong, and maybe there are lots of people who pre-ordered/purchased on day one and are also shocked at the state of the game. But you also have to realize, even recent games were not this bad. Sword/Shield had lots of issues, but they weren't this level of unfinished.
Lots of people are like "Pokemon games have been getting worse and worse so this shouldn't be a surprise, it's the consumers' fault!! They should've known after Sword and Shield!!" But you're off your rocker if you think that Sword and Shield were indicative of this level of broken game.
these patchnotes are laughable. If you look at the newest Splatoon version's patch notes for 2.0, there's 20 pages of notes and updates including listing various bugs that were fixed. Here, we get less than a page for TWO patches and the bugs are not listed. This is untenable.
There are so many bugs that they didn't even know where to start listing them, and many more that they don't even know are there. If they were to list bugs that are clearly critical to the gameplay of their game, their sales would suffer. They preferred ambiguity and silence.
Game just came out. Give them time
@@coddude4748 lmao why are you defending a broken game
@@coddude4748 but the game should have come in a decent state, there shouldn't be a wait for them to fix anything at least as big as these problems
They didn’t bc they know that if they listed all the bugs it’d make the game look even worse than it already does. It would take a ton of pages to list all the bugs that need to be addressed
I bet the people working at Game Freak took Homer Simpson's advise.
"If you don't like your job, you don't strike. You just go in everyday and do it really half assed. That's the American way."
Which is ironic seeing as they are in Japan.
what a shitty comment
@@dragon1130 Japan's work culture is brutal man
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No, it wasn't that they didn't want to do it right, it's just that yearly Pokemon is not a good thing for development
This isn’t going to change anything. The game was still a success. They’re only apologizing because that’s what they’re expected to do. The series has been declining for a few years now, right after gen 5 became the peak of the franchise, and it’s not going to get better at this rate. If they’re sorry, the next release needs to be worth the price tag, not be a broken, soulless mess that doesn’t understand what made the first few gens as special as they were.
Absolutely this. As long as the fandom keeps making every new release an easy success, the Pokémon Company has no reason to change their business model.
Agreed
ever since gen 6 the series has been on a decline, the lack of standards are now very clear to everyone to see
Nah this game is want we always wanted from pokemon
I saw the writing on the wall around X and Y, and the nail in the coffin around Sun and Moon. Glad I retired as a trainer before things really got bad.
I still can't believe there hasn't been a single word of apology from the developer, Game Freak.
If I remember, Gamefreak executives rarely speak unless there is marketing to be done. Creatures is a bit more open but they tend to deal with TCG process in Japan.
I think even Iwata back in the day had difficulty getting Gamefreak to speak in his Iwata Asks segments.
@@coolyeh1017 Iwata put his foot on Game Freak’s neck he really put Game Freak in check
@Timmytimmy Mit lmao do you have an example?
Game Freak hasn't cared about Pokemon in years. They only make it anymore because of money
Theres not a damn chance they weren't aware of the state the game was in at launch
This for me is yet another company apologizing for being called out, *not* for the state its in. Because if they actually cared they woulda made sure it wasn't this bad
Like with every other company's half assed "we're sorry"
If I’m not mistaken, Nintendo actively offered more staff to support Game Freak and they refused. The Pokémon IP ownership is very weird.
I'm guessing it's another Cyberpunk situation - namely, the devs _knew_ it wasn't ready, but the execs forced the release.
@@tehbeernerd Is owned by The Pokemon Company, which is owned by Nintendo, Game Freak and Creatures Inc. because Game Freak is part of the owners thet have the power to refuse crap.
An apology isn't enough in my opinion, they better slash the prices on the DLCs at most or make one free out right or do a major free update that adds a lot of the cut mons in. Feralgatr deserves justice!
team fuecoco but i have used both and can we get a offical edit to add feralgatr missing letter
@@dominolizard7840 Every single person that played the game encountered bugs, it's just that some people are unable to see the frame dropping for some reason, but it's constantly happening while playing.
I'm also 100% sure everybody got some clipping issues and popping things out of nowhere, those are insanely common in the version we had since launch.
@Jolteon where are the smooth gameplay vids then? I don't see any being uploaded. Almost every gameplay video i watched, live or not, are buggy as hell.
You ask for Justice only to then butcher the mons name lmao
@@coloxrme yeah I saw a tons of "I haven't encounter any bugs" comment yet I never see a single gameplay vids of a smooth SV run even from hardcore pkm fan channels, stream
they made the duplication glitch a priority over the performance issues, they're just throwing us a shit covered bone.
they're patching out the fun, i see.
@@springtrap_66pg66 Now instead of buying another version of the same game you can buy another Switch and keep it running on old software to play the prepatch version.
@@VaporeonEnjoyer1 I disabled my switch from downloading updates automatically, I still have a need for the duplication glitch. I.e. duping Ability Patches, selling them for 125k each, and buying EV items like Protein and Iron to max out my pokemon. Don’t let Nintendo play you, because Nintendo already plays itself. (´༎ຶོρ༎ຶོ`)
They didn't fix the dupe glitch what are you going on about?
@@Malkuno They did. You can't duplicate your ride mon anymore. You can still dupe items if you have the ride mon duped using the boxed method but once you have it gone from your party, it's gone. Don't know about the picnic method but that one is slow as balls anyways.
I just want to point out that Pokemon Colosseum took pre-orders like 6 months in advance, and then quickly pushed it back launch 6 months. So I, well my parents, had it pre-ordered a year in advance and I was fine with it. I was completely comfortable waiting that extra time because I knew that they were making the game better. And when it came out, I thought it was worth the wait. I really wish that they would take more time to make new Pokemon games.
The difference was the Pokémon of that gen were already out. Less worry about making deadlines for the anime or merch
Pokemon colosseum was goated, better 3D animations than all the switch releases
@@smattonellus8354 colosseum and XD still remain my favorite games in the whole franchise
@@smattonellus8354 Colosseum, Firered/emerald, platinum are in my top 5 at least. I didn't mind the change in gen 5 either!
Yeah as much as it pains me to want something like this, there is too much money with the timing of the release of the games for there to ever be actual change. Year after year each mainline Pokémon game continues to break record sales, and many are fine with the state the of the game. Embarrassing
Nintendo's not blameless in this. They published the game, so it has their seal of approval. But ultimately this is the fault of gamefreak and the pokemon company.
Nintendo allowed this shit to release. Both are equally pathetic.
Exactly.
nintendo are the big decision makers in TPC. its on them.
I agree but I would assign less blame to Nintendo than to TPC for their insane merchandising cycle and GF's executives pushing their small team to work on such an ambitious undertaking. You see that there were tons of QoL stuff, some good characters, pokemon design, and fun ideas but clearly had little time to polish.
Rumors from supposed ex-contracted employees for GF claim that Nintendo offered to assist, which they do to other companies when those companies asked for it. Gamefreak heads refused or didn't ask for help until it was too late in the process for Nintendo to help.
Keep in mind, the Pokemon Company is basically Nintendo + Gamefreak + Creatures Inc (as in, those companies each own a third of it, basically, at least if I'm remembering correctly), and by what I'm reading Creatures Inc has a consistently good track record. Which is to say, if the Pokemon Company is the problem, it only takes the leadership of two of those companies realising the problem in order to get it fixed. If the problem is Gamefreak, not so much.
I think people should be mindful of the exact wording Nintendo used...
They only said they're "aware" of performance issues & listening to feedback, then using vague wording saying they're "working improve the game" (Note: not performance).
"Improving the game" could just mean fixing exploits/bugs & adding new content.
Only saying this as companies do this all the time, and were careful with their wording not to promise to improve performance.
As if they possibly didn't knew these game's weren't ready
Pokémon fans asked for Gen 9 to be rushed and TPC and Game Freak are to blame.
@@timmytimmymit5607stop lying, they have a deadline because they want to sell their other merchandise surrounding the game to make more money. Stop covering for corporations dude.
@@leov3569 Exactly, as much as i bitch often about mainline game being shit, i also agreed that it sucks for them having to push it out by deadline to move merch
@@leov3569 didn’t help development started late 2019. But world pandemics can’t slow them down! They have animes to release, plushies to sell, mobile game updates to make for transactions. The important thing is there is there is new Pokémon
@@timmytimmymit5607 Bullshite on the first part, but true on the second. GameFreak et al. absolutely is responsible for many many problems.
I just wish the Pokemon company didn't feel the need to have a Pokemon game every year. Heck Scarlet and Violet should've just been released next year since we already had Legends Arceus this year.
That would’ve been nice. I was immediately worried when SV was announced to be releasing in November.
Nobody needed a game this year and with this nasty launch it’s clear it should’ve been released next year.
@@riotkitty We already got a pokemon game this year, I see no reason we couldn't have gotten SV next year
@@TheWrathAbove that wasn't a mainline title so it doesn't count, you have to look at sword and shield release to see if we needed one or not.
@@MrOrzeker It was a title developed by the team that makes the main titles. Which in my opinion is a far more important factor.
@@TheWrathAbove they divided the team which isn't unheard of tbh, at this point I just think that gamefreak is just struggling with the transition to the switch.
They got WAY to comfortable developing on ds and stuff, and now that this is a true console they don't have the expertise imo.
Remember, it's us, the people who buys in and keep giving any company/dev (mainly those with technical "unlimited budget") inch by inch everytime they fully release something with low amount of polish by saying: "it ain't too bad, just live with it" over and over again.
And those company/dev will keep saying sorry without actual care at all (altho there are some cases like No Man's Sky), because they already got your money.
Sorry if bad english btw.
This is entirely true.
Unfortunatley, companies are far more likely to drop a franchise than get their shit together if a main line title fails. Somewhat mitigated by the fact that the Pokemon Company exists Entirely to run the Pokemon franchise, of course.
Magic The Gathering recently had a community voting with their wallets. Time to do it ourselves
Sadly, not everyone is a critic, theres a very large amount of people (given pokemons audience) actually do not care about the quality and just live with it, hoping for any scrap of pokemon.
It will never budge, as the rate of people that becomes more critical, the FOMO, the tolerant and the children would far FAR outnumber the sales to even make the word known and much less to take effect
I honestly wouldn't have bought it on the first day of its release knowing there would be this many bugs in the game. I really hate how the game was hyped up by content creators and they never revealed how piss-poor the game actually was performance-wise when they got the chance to see it first.
wow I did not expect an actual acknowledgement from Nintendo.
It's rarer than shinies lol
@@rogan4338 Then again they announced ít before that it got over 10M downloads! Nintendon't and TPC got money haha
Now only if they'll allow Smash Tournaments to happen and not copyright strike every single person who uploads a single piece of music in any Nintendo Game
@@JohnDoe-gt3jr That's kinda off topic you know??
not gonna lie, the story beats that actually got the love and attention from the animators and writers are pretty much the best of the series. but then the cutscene ends and a character T-pose slides across the screen.
The story is mediocre and the lack of voice acting makes it worse, they even removed the battle facility in the post game talk about Game Freak getting creative with their laziness.
It's not even close to the best story beats, that honor goes to the Pokemon Black and White games, you have amazing moments like the gym leaders storming Team Plasma to help you and even one of the gym leaders blasting their airship out of the sky, now that shit was hype.
@@timmytimmymit5607 I say we nuke Game Freak
Your outtta ur mind if you think Scarlet and Violet are the best in the series 💀
What are you talking about? The quality of the stories has gone down the drain since gen 6 and this game is no different.
They knew what they were doing. They pushed it out before it was polished for the Holiday season. Money over Quality, and consumers continue to reward them for doing so.
I've refused to buy Pokemon games since they cut the National Dex and lied about why, and since then I've played many fangame/rom hacks, and it's become abundantly clear how lazy Gamefreak really is by the quality of these games and hacks made by one person or small teams.
They don't need to put real effort when the money comes easy.
I held out on SwSh for a year until it became obvious that only a few of us *actually* boycotted it when SwSh had record sales. I just went ahead and got it this time at launch and it broke sales records again. I’m part of the problem now but not being part of the problem wound up with the same results so what does it even matter?
@@razrv3lc I don't care how many people "boycotted" or how popular something is.
I bought one version of every generation from the start and most spin-off titles, I at-least know hundreds of my dollars that would have gone to them now have not.
I respect my time and my money, and I'm not giving it to those who lie and disrespect me.
With so many games to play I've been happy spending my time and money elsewhere.
I haven't even pirated the new generations, there are other experiences available much more worth my time and money which feels good to reward for their efforts.
Like the Steam edition of Dwarf Fortress which comes out tomorrow, a game I've spent thousands of hours playing for free before it ever had a retail version.
My time won't be spent on a lazy and buggy Pokemon experience tomorrow or any day in the future. When I want a good Pokemon experience I'll continue playing Blaze Black 2 Redux, and when I'm done with that there are countless more fangames and romhacks which people put actual effort and passion into.
I never thought this would happen
Nobody learned from Cyberpunk 2077's launch.
They just need to slap a nice looking anime and everything is forgiven
@@scrittle
The people who brushes you off and calls others "haters" are one of the most annoying individuals. They are so blinded from their rose tinted glasses to see that others are voicing their concerns out of love.
Why should they? No one learned from Anthem, Mass Effect Andromeda, No Mans Sky, AC Unity, Marvels Avengers, Fallout 76, Battlefield 5, Battlefield. 2042, Saints Row, etc.
@@shikikkaneddy No. Everyone still hates Cyberpunk and CDPR. Why should they learn. No one learned from Anthem, Mass Effect Andromeda, No Mans Sky, AC Unity, Marvels Avengers, Fallout 76, Battlefield 5, Battlefield. 2042, Saints Row, etc.
@@scrittle Why should they? No one learned from Anthem, Mass Effect Andromeda, No Mans Sky, AC Unity, Marvels Avengers, Fallout 76, Battlefield 5, Battlefield. 2042, Saints Row, GTA Trilogy, etc.
Yeah Terra raids of high levels are almost impossible due to lag. And PVP RNG was just impossible. Hopefully the bugfix they launches today solves it. Cause they just launched ranked battles and Charizard raids.
When I was a kid, I remember catching Pokémon, now we're catching bugs and glitches. How far they have fallen.
When i was a kid, my special interest was the glitches in the very early games (think red/blue.) i think those games were held together by ducktape and hope, they barely worked if you knew what to do to make the glitches happen. But the new game’s glitches are inexcusable. They have been making pokemon games for like 25 years, they can’t do that anymore.
I was a kid and I grew up with the Pokémon franchise, Pokémon has started to deteriorate. They’re rich and they sell bad quality games like that, Pokémon is all about the money, scam and cheap quality games the series has become soulless and lackluster I no longer feel the magic of Pokémon. Now I’m resorting to playing better games and competitors to Pokémon such as Digimon, Final Fantasy XVI, DokeV, Palworld. I won’t return to Pokémon until I see Pokémon has become triple A, and has better quality features such as voice acting, high quality animations, more content.
who knew that catching Missing numbers are the aim of modern pokemon game.
Beedrill and Missingno are disappointed by your comment.
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@@timmytimmymit5607 okay then why are you here why did you pick a pointless misinformation strawman on me as bait you are tired leave the games i have said that so much now just goodbye i play more monster hunting games as well see you if you come back honestly dexit made me do more research in this and you just want to gripe
What did I tell you Nintendo will acknowledge this if their local fans get pissed enough
Any company worth their salt will acknowledge this if profits dip enough. Hopefully this can lead to Pokemon being better
@@grawman67 agreed like myself I'm very sure majority of us are fed up with such lazy releases from triple A games
The other way is enough big names chastised it to oblivion. That way they'll have to reluctantly listen.
the problem is any other time people would be sucking pokemon off and denying all the issues
The problem is that Nintendo isn’t at fault for this, it is completely on TPC and GF for making all of the decisions on Pokémon.
It is really sad, because I feel Game Freak has a lot of talent in it, and there is a lot of heart that does shine through in their works. They just unfortunately suffer at the hands of management that makes them rush things out.
And... since the games always sell do well, all they see is the numbers being high, so no changes are done to fix this.
The people who want a great game vs the people who focus on money
I agree and it’s sad. Sometimes you can still feel some love and care through the game. Certainly there are employees who are are probably more down about it than anyone else. I think that goes for pretty much every mega developer. Imagine if they skipped a year and had an extra special Pokémon release the following year instead? The hype would be unreal and the game would have the tune in the oven it needed and deserved. A shame for everyone involved.
Really don't know why you think GF has talented people. They haven't done anything to suggest that.
Game Freak is too afraid to expand their studio and are keeping it akin to an indie studio. Pokémon has become too large for an “indie studio” to keep up anymore. There’s 1,000 Pokémon to account for now. They need to hire more developers.
@@TheKingRiku they have talented people, but that tends to lean more towards their art and music departments. Regardless of how the game works, the designs stick out in a good way (I mean they have to for merchandising) and the music usually are bangers. Heck, SV has several top bangers of the series.
But I wouldn't say the devs aren't talented but rather damn short on time. You can see a lot of the devs are passionate, but again the merchandising machine is hitting the quality of the game hard.
Honestly, I think the problem lies for the most part with Creatures Inc. who handles the entire Pokémon franchise (Anime, Games, Merchandise etc.). Sure, Game Freak could hire more talented people to help with the workload or make a game engine as a foundation that is optimized for the hardware and can serve as a solid foundation to develop a game.
But for that to happen, Junichi Masuda needs to change his entire approach in handling a dev team and Creatures Inc. needs to give GF actual room to breathe, because I can guarantee, the next mainline and spin-off games are probably already in the planning stage, considering how little time there was between the releases of SwSh and SV, not to mention Legend Arceus that had to be thrown there in the right middle from all of this.
CORRECTION:
I meant the Pokémon Company, not Creatures Inc. I somehow got these two companies mixed up. Thanks for pointing that out.
I’m not sure if this is true, but I heard Nintendo actually offered Game Freak to bring on more devs to finish up S/V. Game Freak turned it down, and, well, here we are.
Creatures don't handle the entire pokemon franchise. They are a development company who mainly support pokemon games in development and work on TCG. TPC is the one you think.
The problem is that GameFreak actively refuses to hire more people. But you are right that Masuda is a core part of the problem.
@@maxxor-overworldhero6730 people all over the world would drop everything if they were given a chance to work with THE BIGGEST FRANCHISE in the world, their refusal to get help and change is an embarrassment
@@oscarm7787 It's their "Perpetual Indie Studio" mentality. Frankly the people in charge - mainly Masuda and the other guy (forget his name) - are stubborn idiots.
And to put it bluntly, this is just another condemnation of their p!$ş-poor coding abilities; really seems like Iwata (may he rest in peace) was the only one saving their @ŕ$3s.
"We apologize to our fans" while swimming in the pool of money Skarlet and Violet generated
7/10 is being generous, in its launch state it's a 1/10
1/10? That would be almost unplayable and it certainly isn't
@@friendlyotaku9525 You're on 2very pokemon video defending this dumpster fire series like it's your own flesh and blood. You sad, pathetic little weeb
@@Saved-by-Grace are you really resorting to insults?
Funnily, although Nintendo apologizes for the state of the game, I'm not sure if they're solely responsible. I'm sure TPC is also to blame and should also apologize.
Nintendo will outsource Pokémon to triple A devs now they don’t care about Game Freak. If Nintendo is gonna turn a blind eye to this mess they might drop Pokémon from their IPs.
@@timmytimmymit5607 You have no idea what you’re talking about. No way they’re dropping Pokémon from their IPs lol it’s the most successful franchise in the history of the planet ever. And they’re not outsourcing the franchise to triple A devs because The Pokémon Company is a joint company between GameFreak, Creatures Inc and Nintendo. Nintendo does not have the ability to take GameFreak away from Pokémon because GameFreak is one third of the company that runs the Pokémon franchise.
@@timmytimmymit5607 About that dropping those Pokémon "IPs", Pokemon is still Nintendon't biggest franchise tho! No way they dropped it easily
@@timmytimmymit5607 You got a source for that?
But Nintendo won't apologize for taking down and DMCA'ing Fan games. Even the most prestigious or even most standalone.
Gamefreak really needs to stop rushing these games out. Nintendo is usually smart enough to delay their games long enough to be sufficiently polished, and they make both bank and good word of mouth.
They do this because they don't care lol, they still end up making tons of money off dumb people who buy their crappy buggy games
I might be misinterpreting the situation so please correct me if I'm wrong.
Since Nintendo doesn't fully own Pokémon, releases like this that happen every year without any delays are mainly caused by The Pokémon Company, if Nintendo fully owned the IP, this would more than likely not be the case.
I haven’t bought this garbage or mess, waste of money to award lazy video game publishers and developers. My money is better spent on triple A quality games like Final Fantasy XVI, Doke V, Palworld.
Still cannot believe Sega’s in a more functional state with Sonic Frontiers
@@jonahabenhaim1223 Because Sonic is not a yearly franchise.
Satoru Iwata probably saw the state of Scarlet and Violet and went:
"Don't make me come back down there biatch"
"Sorry we didn't care enough to make something good and just wanted to make as much money as cheaply as possible. We'll do it again :)"
That's what I'm taking from this.
You're extremely kind for saying that the game is a 7 in its current state.
We're sorry we didn't bother quality testing it before rushing it out for that sweet holiday eggnog? I don't want apologies. I don't want anything because I know they're never gonna change. If they fix the game, then we'll talk.
i had a bug happen where the map got stuck trying to open but the game was still running and i couldnt do anything no matter what i pressed and was forced to close the application
On an unrelated note: You did wonderfully as Pucci Yong. True justice to the role. Thanks for the great performance.
Tell me, do you believe in gravity?
I have a lot of tolerance for even the buggiest games. But it's almost painful playing through the latest entry of Pokemon. The game's fun, but there are numerous bugs and glitches that are immersion breaking.
It's funny that with all the issues with it along with the bugs, I never encounter them beside the frame drops every now and then.
They really need to improve the quality of their pokemon games and increase the amount of people working on them. Pokemon scarlet and violet ate doing alot things right but other stuff needs polishing
Funny how they fixed the elite four music bug, when the glitched music imo made the battle feel more intense
Nintendo owning up? Ha...yea right. That be a Rare occasion. Should I bring out the expired champagne or half baked cake?
nah, take out the expired cake, dont waste that half baked cake.
@YongYea Immediately upon downloading patch. Can't load, check for corrupted data, corrupted data found, redownload. Have not been able to get into the game at all since patch download
yet its 7pm rn and i still dont have the update is this the same for everyone else?
The biggest problem with Nintendo is that they are still forcing the "1 game per year". It's impossible to make such ambitious games in such short time. They have to either start launching 1 "normal" pokemon game per year and an open world one per 2 years or focusing completely on the open world and make them at least in 1 year and a half
I didn't have an issues with the game until I got to the Elite 4 battles and for some reason the song kept looping the first 5 or so seconds of the song for each Elite 4 member AND Champion theme, which are usually my favorite tracks. It was like the music was building up to something awesome, but it never happened. It honestly knee capped a lot of the fun I was having up to that point. Last night I even had a bug where my Gallade was just randomly standing on the pads that help you travel in Area Zero and he would just stand there even after using the pad to teleport or when I leave the building and come back inside. Worst part is that I went all throughout the game spoiler free for a fresh look and haven't played without spoilers since Gen 4, and for all the fun and excitement I was experiencing the bugs and errors kinda sapped some of it away. A real shame the game launched like this when the story and everything else was entertaining; the franchise and fans deserve better.
Right? The game itself is actually great but the bugs sucked so much enjoyment out of it.
Still watching this segment but I just have to ask. Has this update fixed the framerate issues?
My 2 big grips are non breading paradox and no shiny notification
The paradox not being able to breed is kinda annoying if you have violet and wanna breed for good stats on future/past pokemon you can’t kinda annoying cause you can’t shiny hunt or breed for a good paradox like if your in violet if you trade for a past version your stuck with what you have
The shiny no notification is super annoying cause in the previous game there’s was a bright animation and sound that played when one spawned to alert the player hey rare shiny spawned near you but in SV there’s nothing and if you have a hard time with colours good luck shiny hunting especially with the Pokémon that have very small differences between normal and shiny
It definitely feels like they have some kind of stamina meter when making games that can only be split so much. They have to choose between game polish and bug testing or trying new things and innovating. This is why I hate the release schedule they have for this franchise.
@King of The Zinger This. Honestly I could care less about a set release date as much as I care about a game being finished and polished when it is released.
Hey remember 2 years ago when Madden said they would "take player feedback seriously" lol
Things I've personally had happen: chugging framerate, environment flickering in and out of existence, NPCs flickering in and out of existence, raid Pokémon health not displaying properly, usually when I one-hit the opponent and their health bar goes empty, yet they somehow now have HALF of their health left. I have also had the opponent's health go down only halfway, then decides after a few seconds that it was in fact, a one-hit win.
Got to the lake in the northwest near dragon Titan. The frames are so dead in those waters.
Man when Nintendo has to apologize and offer refunds on one of their games you know they fucked up. Unlikely to happen but hopefully gamefreak learns from this and actually make an effort on their next title, they have no idea how lucky they are their fans are loyal to the core and will buy anything gamefreak releases in a heartbeat
the refund was standard digital refund policy that was used as dumb clickbait
@@AroSaybleye Yeah, but the public image does take heavy damage if they HAVE to say it out loud like this. And i dont think Nintendo wants a repeat of that. Hopefully they can pressure Gamefreak into accepting help now after this shitshow.
1-5% jank is a massive deal to most people, but man I must be lucky evading it a little too often, but this is still nice to see and know that they're willing to respond to positive(?) criticism.
One of the many glitches my friend encountered were the glitching through the floor during stair or walking down a mountain pass. But not any of the character glitches, yet.
@@mediademon90 that's actually what I experienced, but it's pretty rare so count me lucky on the "evading jank" list.
@@mediademon90 through the ace tournament I keep getting floating faces without eyes mouths or bodies constantly flying across my screen...
I see some jank but some got it bad; These memes didn't come from nowhere, they needed more time to fix these little things that can add up in a major way over time, but admittedly they are not the worst bugs I've seen.
This situation reminds me of The Legend of Zelda: A Link Between Worlds on the 3DS. The game has a major glitch where the collectible Maiamai count messes up. There's 100 of them to collect and a lot of times, people collect all 100 but the counter is messed up so you end up in a situation where you can't get all 100 even if you did get 100. You need all 100 to get a special ability.
The patch didn't even release on December 1st.
I know every experience will vary, but the only issues I've have is frame rate issues. I have yet to experience these glitches
@@scrittle for sure, which is why I know every experience will vary. Really hope they fix all this ishhh because this game is actually pretty great. 10X better than S&S
The lack of specific fixes is frustrating, especially since tera raids are broken and the drop rates are incredibly bad for ability patches and tera shards, so if you want to play competitively, you have to use things like the duplication glitch or you will be grinding for months just to train a team of 6 and knowing GF and Nintendo being obtuse AF, I promise they're going to "fix" the glitches that actually let players bypass the broken systems to actually be able to play instead of fixing the things that are actually harming the experience. I'm actually in airplane mode until people can figure out exactly what was updated because I went through torture grinding over 30 broken 6* raids and didn't get a single ability patch, so them patching a useful glitch will literally stop me from playing. Any competitive players that haven't bought the game, save yourself the money and stress, just play Showdown or the old games.
Its funny that they fixed a bunch of the glitches and exploits that made the game less of a grind, but fixed literally none of the performance issues
I haven't had many glitches mostly sometime riding and after jusmping off a cliff getting stuck with the ride pokemon's front feet on the ground while not landing, then after a bit it fixes itself
The problem isn’t even GameFreak (all on their own). The bigger problem at large is the Pokémon Industrial Complex, where video game releases have to be released alongside card releases annually, glitches and bugs be damned.
@hkh4 the half brained gamer They do, since it's a new gen. Also the anime and other merchandise
@@daridon2483 As I said, the Pokémon Industrial Complex
personally i think this is one of the worst IMO...the pokemon are boring and generic...the new battle is lazy all they did is put a stupid flower or crystal thing on there heads....and the graphics and game play quality is HORRIBLE
To each their own. I personally like it but it sucks that it runs like crap. If this doesn't get fixed im the end I'll rather emulate the next game or just do so with the older ones tho.
An apology and response with no actual plan means absolutely nothing.
Yo Yong did you have fun voice acting Jojo Stone ocean, the final part came out today? Suprised by the ending?
I wish game developers and the media had a better relationship like with what you see in sports. Every time a match is played in any major sport, the media and the fans have the ability to hold their athletes and coaches accountable for apparent mistakes or lapses in judgement. Imagine if there was a Game Freak press conference after every major release and gaming journalists had the opportunity to present what the fanbase is saying to the game devs and get their responses. That would be cool imo
The difference is sports needs people to watch every week to be financially successful, so they have to cater to the fans to some degree.
This is the first time pokemon has gotten a meaningful, albeit small patch.
I guess you could say it's a step in the right direction 2: electric boogaloo
All they "fixed" was removing duping tbh
"We're sorry.. Give us more money"
Excited to watch you as pucci this weekend man. Still so surreal that you’re playing him!
A very little part of me shriveled up inside when I saw Pokemon in the shape of motorcycles. I wonder how long it'll take them to use the rest of the Transformers 😭 I miss "MY" Pokémon 😢
I feel like everything was at least appropriate, and better before they introduced chandelier, keys, ice cream cone, bigger ice cream cone and Verizon😢
Don't forget the nut and bolt one
Trubbish and literal salt cube as well...
@@vahlak6554 omg yes! Is that the walking glad trash bag one??
@@x4narizu4x yes
The worst part of this whole debacle is that... at its core, the game is incredibly fun.
I love the non lineair way I am able to go, and the many places i can explore. The game is filled with nooks and crannies with some new pokemon or item in every one of them. The pokemon and human animations are more detailed this time around, they definitely listened to critique on Sword and Shield, and I am definitely enjoying the game as a whole a lot. But some of the performance issues... it's just distracting at times. My switch is also roaring like mad while running it, and warm plastic can be smelled.
I hope it will be looked at and that Gamefreak will realise they have something good here that needed a bit more love.
"and warm plastic can be smelled"
Yikes, that's really not good. I suppose someone who's really enjoying the rest of the game could ignore most of the visual bugs, pop-in, bad textures, and even maybe frame-rate and all that. But messing with the actual console because of how poorly it runs? That's a seriously glaring issue :/
@@calliopeshif7581 I feel it says more about his switch than the actual game cause I'm pretty sure performance issues shouldn't cause your switch to create a burning smell
@@Berdomlikesgames perhaps, though this has not happened with any other game so far.
@@ToonfieldAnimations might be worth looking into. While I suppose it's possible it could be the game I'm pretty positive that's not normal
@@ToonfieldAnimations This game is definitely not broken enough to cause hardware issues
I highly recommend you get your Switch checked
All they really needed to say was "lol we already got your money, refund if you want because most people won't"
A wierd thing I encountered with a friend in a terra raid was a hawlucha used 5 different moves, it used feather dance, taunt, swords dance flying press, and brick break. So technically, they shouldn't be capable of it.
I've had no issues playing violet offline, are the bugs online issues? The only issue I have is the way breeding is done now with "egg types" sometimes I don't want eggs, but have a fe/male or two in the party... preferred the daycare system, was less time wastey, didn't require you to empty your party and stand around to get the pokemon type you wanted.
Let's be honest: even if all the bugs are gone, this game is a 7/10 at best. It's a good pokemon game, but thats a self defeating phrase. Pokemon games are lackluster and half asked at the best of times, and this game looks like a Wii game on an already underpowered console. If they can't compare to BOTW, A game Years Old, then they are failing their customers miserably
I agree with this statement 100%, which kills me to do so.
Honestly my only real issues so far that affect performance is often when the game gives me TM's through cutscenes or dialogue they glitch past the explanation and don't appear in notifications screens to double check, further, an actual problem with game design is menus... D-pad left is outfit change but the game NEVER tells you this, it goes out of its way at the start to tell you to pick up outfits in the overworld, then later tells you how to buy outfits in shops, but not how to change what you have once you have it.
Likewise the camera app never tells you how to actually take pictures despite explaining its other features quite well, while the Rotom phone case can also only be altered in the unmentioned appearance menu despite showing "use" in the menu that does nothing.
Other than that and the memory leak/graphics the game is fantastic.
Nintendo apologies and taking accountability for their actions?? Impossible.
You’d be surprised the amount of Pokémon fans that DEFEND Gamefreak and Nintendo for this disaster of a release. You give valid criticism and they deflect by saying it’s “the switch hardware” despite the fact Breath of the Wild and Xenoblade exists in the same console.
Or saying "well I never encountered any bugs" crowd.
Some Pokémon fans are delusional that’s why you should not take them seriously.
I've lost what little respect I had left for the "Pokemon Community" on this one. This is unacceptable for any seasoned Developer to release and if this was any other franchise, everyone would jump on them like this was the next Ride to Hell or Aliens Colonial Marines. The only reason anyone is going easy on it is because its Pokemon, this game deserves WAAAY harsher buzz then its getting. If they're ok with less than mediocre quality, fine. They can go jerk it to their stupid weed cat and waste their money buying a game twice for all I care.
I don't want to hear about them not having time ether because I grew up on PS1/PS2 Era, where half of the sequels used the same engine and came out on a Yearly base. Spyro (1998) Spyro 2 (1999) Spyro 3 (2000) Ratchet and Clank (2002) Ratchet and Clank 2 (2003) Ratchet and Clank 3 (2004) Ratchet and Clank Deadlock (2005) All made by Insomniac games, AND they helped on most of Naughty Dogs games. Game Freak can't even make new models and this game is this buggy. If its too much work, hire a second developer. Call of Duty did, the Pokemon company has the money to burn. Game Freak obviously doesn't care about Artistic Integrity or Craftsmanship.
Come on Reggie, give us Mother 3!!!!
cant say i've noticed frame drops, but i haven seen the missing texture where you see through the ground, and i've had the game completley crash on a black screen, lmao
I know this is off topic, but I just watch the final batch of Stone Ocean episodes and you did an amazing job as Pucci! You freaking nailed it, especially in the last couple of episodes! 🤘
Words mean nothing, Nintendo. I want to see actions done.
Sadly, I won't be able to know what type of action they take until the next game is done.
"Fixing" a game until it "functions" isn't an apology.
I got the notification about having to update my game while getting rid of the extra starters I've been getting from my egg farming and really I think I will avoid the patch for a bit longer because I'm not sure if they also patched the item dupe which has become my method of income for getting cash for the bulks of pokeballs and sandwich items.
When they didn't include most of the pokemon catalog, I knew that they had dialed it in. If they can't even find the time to include their back catalog of 'Mons, it tells me that this wasn't the only place that they had been cutting corners.
latest patch doesn't really fix bugs only the dupe glitch. 7 star charizard raid also has issues, you can't trade charizard nor the charmanders if you breed, if you glitched you can get the extra miridon/koridon ot of your party, 7 star raid has lack luster rewards.
I had no clue the elite 4 and champion had themes, thought the intro was the actual theme which sucks cause the elite 4 actually had a pretty good theme
Right off the bat I agree with your views on the games. This is probably the best (or nearly the best) pokemon has been in terms of gameplay and story, but the technical issues definitely take away from the experience a bit. I really hope they continue to push patches and updates for these games, as they could become the best games in the series with enough love and effort.
For me, the best part is how they say they take feedback seriously... but the patch is posted on the support part of their site. The support part has on every article a box asking if the page was helpful or not. If you select no, it just says "Thanks for your feedback." and doesn't even let you say why.
I don't want to hear Apologies, I want it fixed. THEN you can be sorry about what happened
It'll be through their actions we take players feedback seriously but I'm waiting for a behind the scenes expose from journalists on what happened behind the scenes
My thoughts is that the three year release window isn't enough time, just as some of my friends say.
I am aware the game wasn't developed within 3 years likely, but I do think a main line game being released every 3 years is too small of a gap and they need more time.
I think they need to expand staffing, simply put even if they don't want to. Or, give themselves far more time in the development oven to meet the ambitions. They're at a point where they need one or both.
I’ve had 5 crashes before I complete the actual game, that’s on top of dealing with like 5 fps for far too long
this is the equivalent of saying "i'm sorry" with very low voice, so that the other person doesn't hear. What a joke. And who should be apologizing is gamefreak, not Nintendo.
And there's no Iwata-san to come and fix your code like in gold/silver days....
It's really sad people are fine with this lack of quality. If they still preorder and are happy with broken games don't expect improvement. Only expect worst, just look at EA and their sports games.
Here is what I think they have fixed some issues but not completely fixed the major one and are probably working on it but don't won't to say and are trying to see if they can push it out but If they can't it wouldn't be like promised in the patch notes
From a software QA perspective, I can say there is indeed a possibility that inhouse testers missed the performance issues in testing.
How a lot of game companies test their games is to test on emulators on souped-up PCs. There are a lot of open source software for automation and just more efficient testing on PC. So this common practice here, along with most software devs just relying solely on automation tests, causes most optimization related bugs in my opinion.
The way you say "YongYea" at the end of each video never gets old for me :)
They literally tweeted about it last night, please update this video with correct information.
The fixes will come after Sakurai finishes season 1 of his instructional series.