To me the craziest thing is that our generation is so unfazed by things like this now. I was in real lockdowns in my school and more then half the kids there cared that it happened during lunch then what was really happening. They played all sorts of game in the class room and watched movies to pass the time while we sat there for 3 hours. It’s just crazy to see yk.
You’re not wrong, i work at a mall and we went into lockdown bc of a shooting nearby and all the staff (majority of us were high schoolers) were making tik toks and stuff. I know we were all scared but it was also kinda like “ok, this happens like everyday?” Kinda thing idk😭 and all the customers that were in there with us were just talking to each other, crazy.
Someone made a bomb threat during lunch when I was in middle school so we had to go outside (which was freezing btw) and leave our trays in the cafeteria. Well I didn't know if we would get to finish lunch so I took my banana with me and ate it outside lol (And the bomb threats were fake...that year a student kept leaving notes that he was gonna blow up the school to get out of class. It was really annoying and because it kept happening throughout the year, we knew it wasn't a real bomb threat.)
@@charlottabeans6637 nah bcs i seen a tiktok where there was a shooting i think it was in a mall and like maybe 30 people were in a room and a whole ass family were doing a photo shoot or sum shit like bro 😭
And what should they do? Panic? Become hysteric? Be in fear for 3 hours straight? There will be enough of that when it's a real situation. Better be with unfazed people than surrounded by people screaming in hysteria....
The same thing happened at my middle school lol Totally same circumstance and the kid who got caught did get expelled. I remember one day it was raining on top of it being chilly out. @@kpoppy9635
I hate it when games are used as a scapegoat; its a combo of things lack of mental health services, the way people are discarded and ignored when they need help, how folks are socialized ect. Access to guns and the attitudes surrounding them are the biggest factor of course. This all too familiar, we had a guy at my highschool who brought a gun to school b/c some girl wouldn't go out with him. Luckily hes got caught between periods, otherwise it could have ended really badly.
As someone who loves games and make a living from it, it makes me sad too. Funniest thing is video games are super popular all over the world but the US is the only country where shootings are common.
I have to say that shooting games are not the cause of this. I've played those in my teens and I've never thought about harming anyone. On the game is ok, because is a computer game, not real life.
the games itself are 100% not the problem but there's a problem in the community built around certain games that are concerning. it's a lot of impressionable teenagers interacting with grown adults, who a lot of time have the objetive to spread harmful agendas and full on just indocrinating young people. i've observed that first hand. you add all that to mental health issues + bullying + easy access to guns (the true main culprit) and there you have it.
@@SugarcatPlays And not even lack of mental care, but how expensive mental health care is. Even if you live in a major city, you might not even be able to afford it
Yeah definitely. I think the movie is about Columbine though, and one of the dudes was obsessed with custom Doom maps and even allegedly made one of the school's layout. I assume that was the reference. Def not the games though, that's just an excuse.
When I was a teenager, I also liked playing first-person shooter games and I'm not a violent person. In fact, I'm Buddhist now as an adult. People want to blame video games for everything, but the reality is that it's society itself who fails these kids. These kids are often bullied and end up withdrawn, nobody trying to pull them out of their rising hatred for the world. If people were more kind and took care of one another, we likely wouldn't have as many shootings. At this rate, I refuse to send my future kids to American schools.
@@jen-tech_challenged It is unfair to blame parenting as a definite cause, also. Sometimes parents try their best and do everything in their power and it still isnt enough. Children are their own people. It would be unrealistic to expect their parents to be able to guide them through every decision. A parent can teach a child what is right and wrong. That doesnt mean the child will listen.
@@jen-tech_challenged Eh, some kids just have issues too A kid went on a rampage in my school when I was about 8-9 years old, not with a gun but he picked up a slab of concrete and threw it at a kid narrowly missing his head then he chased other kids around the school with another concrete slab (he took them from of a wall that was damaged) I was sitting down when this happened and he came up to me breathing heavily with this huge slab in his hands he stared at me before chasing the other kids around again the only reason he didn't throw it at me was because he saw me as a friend... The teachers eventually got everyone inside and we barricaded the door with chairs etc, this kid knocked over teachers and quite literally rammed the door pushing the chairs and about 10 students back every time he charged into the door. He's a painter now (the house kind) lol
It would be hard to see how games are the problem considering the amount of people world wide play and there are no problems. I'm sure they play games in South Korea and yet they don't have this problem. Go figure.
@@infiresnation7430 While i'm not going to say "Violent media is the issue" some people with certain mentalities and mental illnesses...it can affect them negatively. I have mental health issues and watching scary and violent things makes my thoughts worsen. What people see and consume can give them ideas, desensitize them and give them a push to do things. BUT they already need to be messed up to do those things, most people playing games and watching movies aren't.
@@katie5920 When it comes to some media good news is no news the focus is on the bad news, which I understand needs to be reported but to dwell on it for days seems to fuel copy cats.
As a person that has been In a school shooting. These movies provide the perfect example of all the emotions you feel during the process. The panic, the fear, it’s sickening. I was in the third grade. I’m in seventh now, and I have recovered from the incident. Still traumatizing till this day.
The school my little sister goes to had a school shooting this year. 2 students died. 1 of the students was her friend. When she got home she was scared and anxious. She’s currently seeing a therapist cause she has ptsd now. Sad.
I remember watching The Fallout years ago and that scene genuinely shocked me to my core. I knew going into the film it was going to have a school shooting scene but I did not expect it to hit as hard as it did; Jenna and Maddie deserve their kudos for the entire movie but that one bathroom scene alone in it's entirety...jesus christ. It genuinely had me close to throwing up myself by how visceral the acting was, and I think it's one of the most realistic depictions as well. the raw emotion and fear in their eyes and faces, it is beyond heartbreaking. for anyone who hasn't seen it, I highly recommend the movie, in my opinion it's one of the best films I've ever seen. it's disturbing that we have even gotten to the point of making movies around school shootings, it's disheartening to say the least.
School shootings have become more widespread, especially in the United States, where they’ve got countless shootings happening left and right. However gun violence can be prevented.
Other countries have one in like 15 years, US has like 15 in a year. The prevalence of guns combined with a number of other socio-economic factors have built this problem. It won't be fixed by merely stopping guns sales, and thinking that isn't helping. An entire sea change in attitudes and the direct action to address the other underlying factors will take at least years, maybe decades.. if any politician(s) ever get the balls to do it.
The saddest fact about most school shootings that it is preventable by responsible gun ownership. The children usually take or use their parents' firearms to commit these atrocious acts. Gun purchases in the United States are far exaggerated in media, but it's true that carelessness allows firearms to fall into the hands of those who did not purchase them directly.
False..main reason mass shootings exist is because of the "conservative" cult or white supremacist ideologies and agenda which are currently in the USA the treasonous rightwing confederate murderous soulless republikkkan grifters and their brainless hateful willfully ignorant destructive base. They promote GUNS as they get millions from many including the NRA which supports ALL tyrannical inhumane regimes as well as the black or underground market. These traitors sold out the USA since Reagan and have filled up the courts plus positions of power to create an OLIGARCHY. The majority of the house since Reagan have been the evil anti American republikkkan confederate grifters. They want MORE GUNS to all when we know the 2nd amendment is rooted in RACISM, for the confederates to control the enslaved plus the genocide massacres of the indigenous so that they can steal their lands as they did with Mexico. The GUNS have increase due to the lukewarm laws so that CRIMES VIOLENCE increase especially when their is poverty which they have increase during their puppet like the orangutan or last administration..these traitors PROFIT and are against all Americans including their ignorant destructive evil base that continue to promote their propaganda like you've done. Guns are the reason terrorism exist worldwide as well as sex children human organs weapons trafficking, it also affects global warming, world hunger, and especially ALL nations of people of color, it supports endorse wasteful wars and ALL tyrannical inhumane regimes..main reason your cult love psychopath Putin as well as the murderous traitor rapist pedophile criminal conartist Don the Con bunker boy..Wake up it's 2023..use 5th grade level of critical thought
@@jeffwilliams2828 I'm referring to the ease of obtaining firearms in the US. People in media always portray it as being able to walk into a store and walk out within minutes of a legal purchase. This is not true at the slightest.
@@samkeyman8140 Most people wouldn’t distinguish between a store and a “gun show” where you absolutely can walk in and walk out with a gun with no/little oversight, regulations or records. That’s the reason most illegal guns in and from the US have no ownership records.
Omg they need to stop emphasizing the whole video games deal… because people who don’t know what the cause is are going to become like those overbearing parents who blame everything on video games 🙄
She is right about the recognizing the gunfire sounds sooner. As someone from the U.S it's almost like a reflex if I hear gunshots in certain locations. Its a sad reality but we have all grown up practicing lockdowns and we all know that its always a possibility and a risk going to school everyday
I don’t blame my parents for worrying so much about me, every day I go to school. I appreciate the fact that every day I wake up, every time I get dropped off, it’s left with an “I love you-!”. Because, in reality, I wake up every morning, knowing that this may just be my last day of school. This is why self-defense is needed. This is why people need to understand how to protect themselves and others when necessary.
Gus Van Sant's "Elephant" is a true cinematic masterpiece. It is shocking, raw, and visceral. But, the shootings aren't over-the-top like you'd see in an action flick. Each bullet you hear being discharged from one of their weapons carries weight and magnitude. I truly-implore everyone who hasn't already, to watch this picture.
I was born and raised in Colorado, where the Columbine shooting happened. In fact Columbine high school is about a 30 minute drive from my school. Kids in Colorado my age literally grew up with 10x the fear going to school because of that shooting. In my sophomore year of high school we had to go into lockdown because of a shooting at a school very nearby, and another one my senior year because some idiot thought it would be funny to bring a very realistic paintball handgun and fire it off in the parking lot. And we had had easily 10+ shooting and bombing scares over the 4 years I was there, one legitimate enough that they cancelled school for the day. I also know someone who was in the Sandy Hook Elementary shooting. We literally grow up our entire school lives with the thought in the back of our head that we might have to go into lockdown that day because of a shooter. People also need to realize that sometimes or even half the time, the shooter is just some sick, crazy adult, who may or may not have ties to the school. Sometimes it literally is just a random adult person who decided to wake up and kill kids. And even when we go to college we aren't safe, because college shootings have been happening, and have become more frequent over the past decade. We've become desensitized to a phenomenon that other countries would find unbelievable.
Its annoying how people say that these shooting games are responsible for that. Like hell no,saying every shooter played a shooting game is just weird phrasing cause not every shooter player is a school shooter. It can even put in another example" every shooter eats toast" but not everyone who eats toast is a shooter, IS TOAST THE REASON?? should we ban toast or what
it's the person, always of course some people may confuse fantasy with reality but those people shouldn't have access to guns a lot of other shooters shot places because of movies and tv but we're not going to ban that or say that's responsible for everything it's an individuals own actions and if anything, games give people like that an outlet to get there anger out without doing stupid stuff in real life also, some of the most famous shooter like columbine was in the 90s, not really many shooters then... honestly, if i wanted to blame any kind of tech most it would be the internet because while it's good at finding people with similar interests and can be a positive place it can also be a collection of people with similar tastes that are negative like incel forums, serial killers fans etc. and will kind of normalize liking this stuff i still don't blame the internet but if anything was to blame besides the person and the gun, i'd be more likely to point fingers at the internet in comparison to anything else
It's amazing to me how high this threat and reality has become in my country. I was a Junior in High School when the Columbine High School massacre happened and that was Unbelievable to Everybody! The Pure Shock of it. In less then 25 years this has now, unfortunately, became a typical threat for all schools. And Run, Hide, Fight was a really good movie.
That's so hard for me to imagine... I was born in 1998, so it's been practically nonstop shootings literally my entire lifetime. I can't even really remember a time "before" I was old enough to grasp the concept because it's been such a constant staple. And being from Texas, the gun culture here is absolutely absurd and inescapable everywhere you turn, and our leadership actively opposes any kind of legislation that would keep us safer! It's beyond infuriating. I ended up leaving public schooling in favor of homeschool at age 12 but my mom was a teacher at a public school for a whole other decade and I lived in absolute terror of the idea of this happening at her school. Now it's just nonstop worrying over my teacher friend, my younger relatives, all the elementary age kids I'm a coach for... and I ended up entering college online & still haven't gone in person, because the thought makes me feel so unsafe. I was diagnosed with PTSD totally unrelated to shootings, and yet that became the single biggest trigger for me because gun violence is SO constant in America that it's impossible to go anywhere in public without having hypervigilance cranked all the way up.
we've become so desensitized by mass shootings and school shootings here in the US, I mean just in 2023 we've had over 400 mass shootings just this year. We're just so tired of it.
Run Hide Fight is a really good movie. The number of school shootings is insane and every school year brings with it lots of nerves. I hate that my nieces and nephews go through ‘active shooter’ drills and know what to do and where to hide if a shooter comes to their school. That 6 of my nieces and nephews are in one school terrifies me. My niece will be learning her ABCs, numbers, and how to hide from someone with a gun in the next couple months. She’s 4. I live in the US and there isn’t a person who doesn’t know someone touched by gun violence or who has been touched by it themselves. When I was in 4th grade the little girl who rode next to me on the bus was shot by one of her brothers in an accident. She still sucked her fingers like a toddler when she was sitting on the bus. She was a baby. Just 7. Her brothers were in my class and my nephew’s class. Imagine accidentally killing your sister and living with it. Guns are not kept under strict conditions, not kept put up safely by people who own them, and are too simple to get. I can go to the grocery and leave with a gun to go with my meals for the week.
Last year my school got threats and it terrified me.. I'm still a little scared till this day. I don't understand why a whole school has to suffer for bullies actions even so, killing isn't right even if you try to justify it.
True, but also you would think the shootings would be a lesson to bullies that this is what can happen when you bully and isolate someone. I'm not sticking up for shooters, but some people can only take so much before they snap, especially if they're not getting the help they need with their mental health. The bullies are a big part of the problem.
I hope one day we can put an end to gun violence altogether, especially in schools where families send their babies to be educated and just be kids. It's a shame you send them off and it's not a guarantee they'll come home. You should react to Kids Meet a School Shooting Survivor. I vaguely remember when I was younger seeing it on the news. I was 11 and it's really heartbreaking and inspiring to hear what the survivor has to say and the kids did a beautiful job asking respectful, deep questions. Both gave awesome respect to each other to understand as heavy as the situation is, you have to laugh and find humor or you'll forever be stuck in that terrible, dark place.
Scariest thing is how random these acts are. Just like that father said he thought it was his son but soon later found out it was a different student. My heart goes out to the families who lives through this nightmare
I am American and this is very real, very scary. When I was in grade school, we had active shooter and lockdown drills a few times a year and in college, there were several scares while I was attending. Today, there’s literally a new shooting almost every day somewhere in the country and it gets to a point where you’re thinking, “Oh, another one again.” Ofc there’s sadness but, when it happens so often, it becomes just another day and that’s *not* how things should be nor is it fair to the victims and families of these shootings. Contrary to what the rest of the world may believe, the majority of Americans want common sense gun laws, want our kids to be safe in school and see the gun violence in our country as a failure and corruption of the system. However, no matter how much we want change, it comes down to the National Rifle Association (NRA) and the number politicians and influential people they have in their pockets. Political games like gerrymandering and the electoral college also makes it all the more difficult to create meaningful change to the country as well. Fallout (the last movie) best encapsulates the fear, anxiety and despair of Millenials and Gen Z imo and the real consequences it has had. With 2024’s upcoming election, I’m sure the discourse surrounding school shootings, gun violence and regulation will cause a huge divide between Americans again.
You guys use such a vague statement as “common sense” because you know not everybody agrees with all those laws being proposed I do not trust, nor believe the government should have information on who is armed and who is not They’re incapable of not abusing the information or simply being careless with it
@@Dante.- Well, our current system proves that whatever we’re doing now doesn’t work at all and there are also tons of people who also don’t agree with the gun laws (or lack of) that currently stand. Conservatives and the Republican Party also aren’t offering any alternatives aside from “keep as is.” People are literally dying every day and once school starts up again in a few weeks, so will the school shootings. So far, the “good guy with a gun” fantasy from the right-wing, gun nuts hasn’t come to fruition and police have shown that they are also scared and incompetent when it comes to responding to armed threats. I’m also not sure what’s so vague about what common sense gun laws are trying to accomplish. Banning sale of assault weapons, limiting the number of rounds in mags meant for civilian use, requiring universal background checks and waiting periods in order to buy or transfer gun ownership, requiring proper safety locks and minimum security measures on all firearms, etc. There are literally documents out there that talk about the objectives bullet point style and documents that also elaborate on the specifics of each goal. When it comes to the government knowing your info, I think that’s silly to be concerned about because the government literally already has everything they’d need to identify you. If you file taxes or own an ID/drivers license, the government already has your personal identifying information which can be linked to everything else that has your name attached to it. Are you also concerned about all of that info being known or just concerned about them specifically knowing if you’re armed? You might not agree with everything, neither do I but, there’s no guarantee that everything they want to pass will pass, especially with how divided and polarized political parties are right now. What I will say is that human life, especially the lives of literal kids, should not be the trade off we make so that you can own a weapon. I’m tired of a new shooting every other day, I’m tired of corrupt politicians who won’t do anything unless a check is being written for them and I’m willing to try anything sensible and responsible if it means that kids and teachers stop dying in their classrooms. No gun is worth the very real possibility of tragedy and it looks like we’re the only country who doesn’t seem to get that.
How about we stop pumping our kids with developing brains full of psychoactive drugs, because they don't act exactly how we want them to? Everyone blames the gun, and misses the CLEAR culprit. Bow to big pharma.
my personal experience is having kids being part of gangs in my school and coming to school with guns all the time and getting in fights that result in a gun being pulled. one of the most disheartening parts is when i was in class with my friends and we all said " AGAIN!? " and decided if we die we would spend our last moments having fun so we played roblox together while hiding in a closet. I am 16 and a junior in highschool. this is something thats become so common that nobody in my school even bats an eye anymore. we dont have metal detectors or clear bags like other schools either. we have had adults from gangs come in the school from the cafeteria doors to jump kids in the gangs, and people coming to school with 3 guns without safety on, which resulted in a bullet being shot across the gym when he put his bag down. these are only a few of the incidents we've had..
I've always been super aware of the exits in any building I'm in. Everytime I got a new classroom in highschool, the first thought was "how would I get out of here?" or "Where will I hide?" I've been in actual lockdowns before and the way everyone is just so accepting of it makes me sad. Oncea really loud bang echoed through the school and its like all noise stopped for a full 30 seconds. Nobody said a thing. It wasn't a shooter, but it was the loudest silence I've ever heard.
I hate how the movies blame events like this on video games. Most games are not violent, and even those that are have actually have been found to not increase anger or violence.
Maybe you can react to Korean media involving bullying like The Glory and how common it is. It's a blessing Korea restricts firearm ownership by citizens or else they'd tear each other apart.
I was a senior when Columbine HS happened, I was the same age as the shooters and most of the vicitms so the shock was real for many of us, I guess you can say I was part of the last class before school shooting lockdowns became a thing. I was a mom when Sandy Hook happened and I just remember crying b/c my kids were the age of the babies that were killed that day. It strange how things are,
I remember when I would rent movies, back in 2003 you could still rent movies at a shop, and I remember renting Elephant because it had a simple cover and I didn't know what would happen but I could tell it was an indie film - shot by somebody who was good at videography but wasn't an expert and I was into that kind of home grown small content even back then. I remember watching with no idea what it was about and truly not realizing until the end, thinking it was so boring just following people around for no reason in a high school. It was SHOCKING.
10:37 the way the girl whom jenna was playing just talked to her sister about getting her first period too and stuff and she sent like a message saying ''i love you'' when she found out there was a shooting it made me cry so much of how relatable this can be to many people and how i would do exactly the same
This actually irks me to no end. I dont really know how to enter with this, but there was one day my friend dropped a large studying book without realizing, and mostly everyone who heard it started running around and preparing for a school shooting, inlcuding my friend who dropped it. That was kinda telling of just how crappy American schools, or schools in general, are. There was also one time, my school prepared and acted out on a realistic school shooting drill. They brought the police, had guns, etc etc. THEY EVEN HELD ONE OF MY FRIENDS HOSTAGE. We would have been perfectly fine without the realisticness of it all, because when you stepped out of the classrooms, all you smelled was gunpowder. Really scary :( They intend to carry them on for the rest of our school time, too.
i have been in countless lockdowns over multiple reasons but honestly the most disturbing part is how calm i was and how nobody else seemed to take it seriously bc we just came to terms with it. in our minds, thats just how it is now and we gotta deal with it
I worked at a university hospital years ago. I was outside when an active shooter announcement was made over the intercom. By all rights, I should not have been let into the building, as we were all trained to do the opposite. A lady happened to have a door open by coincidence and waved at me to come in. Security recognized me and let me go to my unit to hide. When I got there, I helped lock down the whole floor and kept the patients and visitors in their rooms. It was a scary few hours, but the shooter was arrested. One poor soul did get shot in the dorms, and unfortunately, I don’t remember if they lived or not
@@sweetdulcesunshinenyc Guns don't shoot themselves, genius. Without someone pulling the trigger, they're pretty much harmless. If guns were the culprit of every shooting incident, then, by that logic, a pop star performing on stage isn't doing s**t. It's the microphone doing all the work. And that big essay you wrote back in high school that earned you a high grade? It wasn't you. It was your pencil. Guns are a tool. They can be used to defend, and they can be used to needlessly harm and kill. In fact, many things can be used as tools to kill. Scissors. Cars. Baseball bats. Rocks. Cyanide. But these tools don't have sentience, so they have no ability to harm people by themselves. It's the evil in people that pushes them to kill.
I hate how these type of movies feel the need to put an emphasis on that these horrible monsters played shooter video games. People that do those violent crimes have other things that lead to them getting there, not video games. Many of us who play shooter video games don’t have violent tendencies, it’s simply a video game we enjoy and will usually involve strategy and teamwork, it’s not because we have some sick and twisted mind.
Growing up I remember having fire drills and earthquake drills then suddenly when I hit grade 8 we were doing school shooter drills. Now as a mother I'm terrified to send my daughter to any school when she grows up.
They should show that one Canadian police show with the long take. At least that would give them a new perspective on the police side of the school shooting.
There is a song that talks about it from a shooters perspective. You never hear too much about their side just the crimes they commit. Jarren Benton- The Shooter “The song is basically inside the mind of a high-school shooter. But it accounts for what this person is going through on a day-to-day basis to make them feel this way. I hope that people don’t think this is insensitive. The intentions were not malicious, I didn’t want people to think I was making fun of this.”
the reason why that movie is called "run, hide, fight" is because that's what they taught us early on in school. you run, find a place to hide, and be prepared to fight if they find you
Focus more on why they become the monsters everyone has treated them as.. maybe you'll realize the games are the only escape from a reality of failure, torment and abuse.
I remember there was a threat made to one of my local schools, problem was they didn't specify which school they were gonna go to so school was canceled at my high school as a precaution. My parents weren't notified and my mum brought me to school to see the parking lot filled with police cars.
@@Thing_one_and_Thing_two Lol yeah, it was a crazy day. I had been notified by one of my teachers the night before that school had been canceled and I told my parents, but since no one contacted them, they thought I was playing hooky.
Honestly it’s kinda eye opening to see them cry over this when this is like a 50% chance of happening and it kinda is like normal something you don’t think much of when you see you feel bad but it happens often so it’s whatever to you
I think it would be cool if you guys would do a couple pieces on U.S. Gun Culture. I know it seems crazy that we don't just enact gun laws like every other developed nation, but there's a lot of reasons why we don't. Like the how the right to bear arms is enshrined in the constitution, our focus on individual freedom over collective security, and our distrust of government. I think it would be very cool to see these ideas presented just because of how completely different these values are from Korea. I'm not saying these ideas are right either, just that they're out there and that I'd like to hear what you guys think.
This was a great reaction. I don't know how many times my school when on lock down when i was in school. Now my kids school going through the same thing. Nothing has changed unfortunately.
last school year with literally less than a week left my high school had helicopters and state/county/local police bc someone decided to have a paintball gun in the parking lot. this school year they put in metal detectors and required everyone to wear clear backpacks. its so bs.
Jeez man I can remember the time when there was a school, shooting practice drill, but they told no one so when it happened. People were crapping themselves. I started to run as fast as I could to the class I was supposed to get to in music class The teachers told us to hide in the closet lock every door, and I didn’t know when it was going to end. All. I remember was complete and utter fear, but when it finally ended, I was confused and terrified, but I was relieved. I started crying. Haha
I remember in high school 9th-grade year which was 2 years ago we had multiple bomb threats and code reds throughout the year, I think the worst one was when it was close to winter break and there was a gas leak plus a code red at the same time, I was with some of my friends in the building close to the gas leak so we were evacuated to the football by police officers literally pointing their guns at us and looking to see if we had our ID's, the rest of the school was stuck in the school for hours on end and police were looking for a gun that was said to be in the school and was going around to each classroom looking for the gun and looking for ID's, even through things like this happen all the time that time I was actually terrified for my life, I held on to my best friend for dear life.
At my school someone wrote a threat with a date in the bathroom but nobody took it seriously and we still had to go to school. Luckily it was a normal day but its scary going to school where your supposed to be safe, not knowing what could happen.
I am a persin living in the usa and this stuff is so normalized i have wached teas kindes of mooves with a strate face and the whole time id think what if i whas thare planing escape roouts always worring at scholl is my issue always scared of shotings😀
I never really been in an active shooting but a threat was made and we all went to lockdown. I don’t think no one was really caring how severe it was cus it was just a threat from what we know, but the person had airdropped the gun. But we all were just scrolling on insta and tiktok. I even asked the teacher if we were going to stay here after 3:05 which is when school is out. We were there for 3 hrs.
In middle school we had a asian teacher and It was an active shooter drill going on, she didn't know what to do. But the kids immediately knew what to and bolted the doors. Its sad how common these shootings are that the kids aren't even fazed by It.
My thing is that people will argue tooth and nail about how to control the ownership of guns and how they should be prohibited so hard that they forget why they are arguing about it, then the conversation becomes more about being right or better than the other side and people just start tearing at each other or being hateful. Instead of remembering that at the end of the day we want to stop tragedies from happening. I had a family member pass away due to gun violence and the amount of people who made comments about how it was funny and that my family member deserved to die because of how I feel about guns was literally one of the most deplorable things I've had to sit through.
what people tend to ignore is that all of this is a result of neglect from parents and school staff. the amount of bullying the kids go through everyday and the pressure they get from parents are insane, adding to that the school doesn't do anything to the bullies and instead the victims are the ones that get into trouble. now IM NOT SAYING THAT WHAT THEY DID WAS GOOD BUT THIS SHOULDN'T BE PINNED AT VIDEOGAMES ALONE. when I was in HS I took an airsoft gun that I got for my bday to school and tbh that gun was bigger than my backpack. I took that thing to school and shot a few rounds in the girls bathrooms with no one the wiser.
In the USA it's not as easy to get a gun legally as you might think. Also, if guns were made illegal in the USA it wouldn't make a difference because the black market gun trade from Mexico is already very prominent. So, what would happen is that guns are illegal to citizens while the black market gun trade (which already exists) would thrive. Banning guns works in some European countries because they don't have neighboring countries that could supply a black market. The USA does because of the already existing black market gun trade through Mexico, and hell even through Canada even though their laws are more strict.
One of the biggest school shootings in America was done by a Korean student, in 2007. He killed 32 people and then himself. Even the president of South korea at that time apologized publicly, bc of the massive killer's nationality...
i follow news on school shootings and i see on youtube on their news and its horrible but also in Serbia there was a school shooting in middle school, Serbia is close to Croatia where i live so the news were all over and it's awfull
The constant need to warn kids and be aware of school shootings by making movies will do little to stop this nonsense. The idiot's in their government still believe that guns are necessary in this day and age. That is the problem... Ban any assault (military grade weaponry) from the public domain and there wouldn't be many deaths there. In schools nor on the streets. By restricting possession of such weapons to the population even police officers wouldn't need to carry them. At the end of each movie there should've been a text to ban weapons. Think of it in simple terms.... No alcohol= no alcoholism No drugs=no drug addiction No guns=no senseless deaths
We are so used to shooters in the US that even when visiting countries with strict no gun laws, a mere car backfiring can send us ducking and flinching and scanning the crowd. You can kinda tell who the Americans are from that. We are not okay. Blaming it on games instead of ease of access to firearms, mental health issues, issues of bullying and abuse, issues of neglect and instability... It's not games. Other countries have these games and do not experience mass shootings almost every month. For this year alone, the US has experienced 476 mass shooting events. The year is not over yet and they target when schools are in session and holiday events. It's TERRIFYING. But gods forbid a person's right to live be outweighed by anothers right to bear arms. The way it gets lost in the news cycle so quickly because it's so common is a sign of how as a country, it's kinda expected now.
Im a damn minor im not even in high school yet and I have to deal with the constant fear of a shooting happening. People need to stop. We also need more safety. It f ing dumb and absolutely rediculous. Especially the amount of times my school and others get threats. Last year we got a threat and we still had to stay in school. Please if anyone can explain why?
while i appreciate people taking the time to learn about things outside of their culture i think there's some dangerous phrasing being tossed around. the movie is kind of at fault tho because they keep focusing on the video games the boys are playing. violent video games haven't been found to lead kids to do violent acts like these. there have been countless studies and video games are never found to be the catalyst/cause. we're seeing a spike in shootings not because of how prevalent video games are now, but because of horrible gun laws/gun control here in the united states. studies also show that shootings tend to spike after another mass shooting was heavily reported on. other than that, another great video from OSSC
Even with stricter gun regulation laws, it is so damn easy to get your hands on a gun. The people behind the shootings always have acess to firearms due to their parents/relatives/friends having them kept in easy to acess places.
I’m tired of folks using shooter games as a scapegoat. I’ve played my fair share of shooter games and never in my life I think of ending another’s. It’s the person, not the game.
@@akutagawa.. Yes, it’s based on Rachel joy Scott. The movie is based on journal that she wrote. So it’s her story. What was going on in her life and how she lost and found herself.
Today is March 14th, 2024. The 74th day of the year. As of the latest report the US has had 82 mass shootings, 157 dead and 254 wounded. So far this year we've had 22 days without a mass shooting. And as for our elected representatives at the federal, state and local levels who get millions of dollars of "Not Bribe Money" stuffed into their pockets from the firearms industry, when they find doing nothing is still too much work they send "Thoughts and Prayers"!
Today is September 6th, 2024. We just had another school shooting 2 days ago. 4 innocent lives were lost. Today, 3 schools in my town were put into lockdown due to threats, and in another state, a 12 year old boy was shot by a classmate in the bathroom today. We just heard a politician say it's time to "get over it" and another say "its not time for politics or safety procedures, it's time to give our thoughts and prayers". Every time, it's the same response. I've been hearing the same thing from our leaders since I was 12 when Sandy Hook happened.
there is no correlation between games and violance, it has been studied soooo much. Its the bullying and the ease of buying guns in the US, the lack of mental healthcare also doesn't help. kids all around the world play those games, but school shootings don't happen in countries all around the world, not even school stabbings
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To me the craziest thing is that our generation is so unfazed by things like this now. I was in real lockdowns in my school and more then half the kids there cared that it happened during lunch then what was really happening. They played all sorts of game in the class room and watched movies to pass the time while we sat there for 3 hours. It’s just crazy to see yk.
You’re not wrong, i work at a mall and we went into lockdown bc of a shooting nearby and all the staff (majority of us were high schoolers) were making tik toks and stuff. I know we were all scared but it was also kinda like “ok, this happens like everyday?” Kinda thing idk😭 and all the customers that were in there with us were just talking to each other, crazy.
Someone made a bomb threat during lunch when I was in middle school so we had to go outside (which was freezing btw) and leave our trays in the cafeteria.
Well I didn't know if we would get to finish lunch so I took my banana with me and ate it outside lol
(And the bomb threats were fake...that year a student kept leaving notes that he was gonna blow up the school to get out of class. It was really annoying and because it kept happening throughout the year, we knew it wasn't a real bomb threat.)
@@charlottabeans6637 nah bcs i seen a tiktok where there was a shooting i think it was in a mall and like maybe 30 people were in a room and a whole ass family were doing a photo shoot or sum shit like bro 😭
And what should they do? Panic? Become hysteric? Be in fear for 3 hours straight? There will be enough of that when it's a real situation. Better be with unfazed people than surrounded by people screaming in hysteria....
The same thing happened at my middle school lol Totally same circumstance and the kid who got caught did get expelled. I remember one day it was raining on top of it being chilly out. @@kpoppy9635
I hate it when games are used as a scapegoat; its a combo of things lack of mental health services, the way people are discarded and ignored when they need help, how folks are socialized ect. Access to guns and the attitudes surrounding them are the biggest factor of course. This all too familiar, we had a guy at my highschool who brought a gun to school b/c some girl wouldn't go out with him. Luckily hes got caught between periods, otherwise it could have ended really badly.
As someone who loves games and make a living from it, it makes me sad too.
Funniest thing is video games are super popular all over the world but the US is the only country where shootings are common.
I have to say that shooting games are not the cause of this. I've played those in my teens and I've never thought about harming anyone. On the game is ok, because is a computer game, not real life.
the games itself are 100% not the problem but there's a problem in the community built around certain games that are concerning. it's a lot of impressionable teenagers interacting with grown adults, who a lot of time have the objetive to spread harmful agendas and full on just indocrinating young people. i've observed that first hand. you add all that to mental health issues + bullying + easy access to guns (the true main culprit) and there you have it.
People have blamed Rock music, Metal music, Rap music, Video Games, and everything except how easily it is for people to get guns
It’s 100% not games. We have just as many games in Canada and we don’t go shoot each other up. It’s accessibility and lack of mental health care
@@SugarcatPlays And not even lack of mental care, but how expensive mental health care is. Even if you live in a major city, you might not even be able to afford it
Yeah definitely. I think the movie is about Columbine though, and one of the dudes was obsessed with custom Doom maps and even allegedly made one of the school's layout. I assume that was the reference. Def not the games though, that's just an excuse.
When I was a teenager, I also liked playing first-person shooter games and I'm not a violent person. In fact, I'm Buddhist now as an adult. People want to blame video games for everything, but the reality is that it's society itself who fails these kids. These kids are often bullied and end up withdrawn, nobody trying to pull them out of their rising hatred for the world. If people were more kind and took care of one another, we likely wouldn't have as many shootings. At this rate, I refuse to send my future kids to American schools.
It’s not really fair to blame society….it’s called parenting and parental awareness.
@@jen-tech_challenged It is unfair to blame parenting as a definite cause, also. Sometimes parents try their best and do everything in their power and it still isnt enough. Children are their own people. It would be unrealistic to expect their parents to be able to guide them through every decision. A parent can teach a child what is right and wrong. That doesnt mean the child will listen.
Working in the school system, it’s lack of parenting.
@@jen-tech_challenged Eh, some kids just have issues too
A kid went on a rampage in my school when I was about 8-9 years old, not with a gun but he picked up a slab of concrete and threw it at a kid narrowly missing his head then he chased other kids around the school with another concrete slab (he took them from of a wall that was damaged)
I was sitting down when this happened and he came up to me breathing heavily with this huge slab in his hands he stared at me before chasing the other kids around again the only reason he didn't throw it at me was because he saw me as a friend...
The teachers eventually got everyone inside and we barricaded the door with chairs etc, this kid knocked over teachers and quite literally rammed the door pushing the chairs and about 10 students back every time he charged into the door.
He's a painter now (the house kind) lol
The needless emphasis on shooters playing games is disturbing. It creates unnecessary stigma.
Yeah, it really does ruin the whole idea of it being “realistic” and leads to bias that’s just a distraction from actual ways to prevent this
It would be hard to see how games are the problem considering the amount of people world wide play and there are no problems. I'm sure they play games in South Korea and yet they don't have this problem. Go figure.
@@infiresnation7430 While i'm not going to say "Violent media is the issue" some people with certain mentalities and mental illnesses...it can affect them negatively. I have mental health issues and watching scary and violent things makes my thoughts worsen. What people see and consume can give them ideas, desensitize them and give them a push to do things. BUT they already need to be messed up to do those things, most people playing games and watching movies aren't.
@@katie5920 When it comes to some media good news is no news the focus is on the bad news, which I understand needs to be reported but to dwell on it for days seems to fuel copy cats.
it wasn't needless and it wasn't excess either
As a person that has been In a school shooting. These movies provide the perfect example of all the emotions you feel during the process. The panic, the fear, it’s sickening. I was in the third grade. I’m in seventh now, and I have recovered from the incident. Still traumatizing till this day.
I’m so sorry you went through something so horrific 😭😭 I sincerely hope every day that you can heal more from it ❤
The school my little sister goes to had a school shooting this year. 2 students died. 1 of the students was her friend. When she got home she was scared and anxious. She’s currently seeing a therapist cause she has ptsd now. Sad.
I remember watching The Fallout years ago and that scene genuinely shocked me to my core. I knew going into the film it was going to have a school shooting scene but I did not expect it to hit as hard as it did; Jenna and Maddie deserve their kudos for the entire movie but that one bathroom scene alone in it's entirety...jesus christ. It genuinely had me close to throwing up myself by how visceral the acting was, and I think it's one of the most realistic depictions as well. the raw emotion and fear in their eyes and faces, it is beyond heartbreaking. for anyone who hasn't seen it, I highly recommend the movie, in my opinion it's one of the best films I've ever seen. it's disturbing that we have even gotten to the point of making movies around school shootings, it's disheartening to say the least.
School shootings have become more widespread, especially in the United States, where they’ve got countless shootings happening left and right. However gun violence can be prevented.
only in the United States
I think it's only in us
Other countries have one in like 15 years, US has like 15 in a year. The prevalence of guns combined with a number of other socio-economic factors have built this problem. It won't be fixed by merely stopping guns sales, and thinking that isn't helping. An entire sea change in attitudes and the direct action to address the other underlying factors will take at least years, maybe decades.. if any politician(s) ever get the balls to do it.
Far more than 15.
Gun violence is widespread, but school shootings are rare. Just wanted to point that out.
The saddest fact about most school shootings that it is preventable by responsible gun ownership. The children usually take or use their parents' firearms to commit these atrocious acts. Gun purchases in the United States are far exaggerated in media, but it's true that carelessness allows firearms to fall into the hands of those who did not purchase them directly.
False..main reason mass shootings exist is because of the "conservative" cult or white supremacist ideologies and agenda which are currently in the USA the treasonous rightwing confederate murderous soulless republikkkan grifters and their brainless hateful willfully ignorant destructive base. They promote GUNS as they get millions from many including the NRA which supports ALL tyrannical inhumane regimes as well as the black or underground market. These traitors sold out the USA since Reagan and have filled up the courts plus positions of power to create an OLIGARCHY. The majority of the house since Reagan have been the evil anti American republikkkan confederate grifters. They want MORE GUNS to all when we know the 2nd amendment is rooted in RACISM, for the confederates to control the enslaved plus the genocide massacres of the indigenous so that they can steal their lands as they did with Mexico. The GUNS have increase due to the lukewarm laws so that CRIMES VIOLENCE increase especially when their is poverty which they have increase during their puppet like the orangutan or last administration..these traitors PROFIT and are against all Americans including their ignorant destructive evil base that continue to promote their propaganda like you've done. Guns are the reason terrorism exist worldwide as well as sex children human organs weapons trafficking, it also affects global warming, world hunger, and especially ALL nations of people of color, it supports endorse wasteful wars and ALL tyrannical inhumane regimes..main reason your cult love psychopath Putin as well as the murderous traitor rapist pedophile criminal conartist Don the Con bunker boy..Wake up it's 2023..use 5th grade level of critical thought
The fact there's more legal guns in America, not to mention all the illegal ones kind of makes me think you all have a problem.
Exaggerated? There are 3 guns per every citizen in the United States.
@@jeffwilliams2828 I'm referring to the ease of obtaining firearms in the US. People in media always portray it as being able to walk into a store and walk out within minutes of a legal purchase. This is not true at the slightest.
@@samkeyman8140 Most people wouldn’t distinguish between a store and a “gun show” where you absolutely can walk in and walk out with a gun with no/little oversight, regulations or records. That’s the reason most illegal guns in and from the US have no ownership records.
Omg they need to stop emphasizing the whole video games deal… because people who don’t know what the cause is are going to become like those overbearing parents who blame everything on video games 🙄
She is right about the recognizing the gunfire sounds sooner. As someone from the U.S it's almost like a reflex if I hear gunshots in certain locations. Its a sad reality but we have all grown up practicing lockdowns and we all know that its always a possibility and a risk going to school everyday
I don’t blame my parents for worrying so much about me, every day I go to school. I appreciate the fact that every day I wake up, every time I get dropped off, it’s left with an “I love you-!”. Because, in reality, I wake up every morning, knowing that this may just be my last day of school. This is why self-defense is needed. This is why people need to understand how to protect themselves and others when necessary.
Gus Van Sant's "Elephant" is a true cinematic masterpiece. It is shocking, raw, and visceral. But, the shootings aren't over-the-top like you'd see in an action flick. Each bullet you hear being discharged from one of their weapons carries weight and magnitude. I truly-implore everyone who hasn't already, to watch this picture.
You definitely should watch Fall Out.
I was born and raised in Colorado, where the Columbine shooting happened. In fact Columbine high school is about a 30 minute drive from my school. Kids in Colorado my age literally grew up with 10x the fear going to school because of that shooting. In my sophomore year of high school we had to go into lockdown because of a shooting at a school very nearby, and another one my senior year because some idiot thought it would be funny to bring a very realistic paintball handgun and fire it off in the parking lot. And we had had easily 10+ shooting and bombing scares over the 4 years I was there, one legitimate enough that they cancelled school for the day. I also know someone who was in the Sandy Hook Elementary shooting. We literally grow up our entire school lives with the thought in the back of our head that we might have to go into lockdown that day because of a shooter. People also need to realize that sometimes or even half the time, the shooter is just some sick, crazy adult, who may or may not have ties to the school. Sometimes it literally is just a random adult person who decided to wake up and kill kids. And even when we go to college we aren't safe, because college shootings have been happening, and have become more frequent over the past decade. We've become desensitized to a phenomenon that other countries would find unbelievable.
even as a non american person, i can NEVER understand how people joke and laugh about things like this..
Its annoying how people say that these shooting games are responsible for that. Like hell no,saying every shooter played a shooting game is just weird phrasing cause not every shooter player is a school shooter. It can even put in another example" every shooter eats toast" but not everyone who eats toast is a shooter, IS TOAST THE REASON?? should we ban toast or what
it's the person, always
of course some people may confuse fantasy with reality but those people shouldn't have access to guns
a lot of other shooters shot places because of movies and tv but we're not going to ban that or say that's responsible for everything
it's an individuals own actions
and if anything, games give people like that an outlet to get there anger out without doing stupid stuff in real life
also, some of the most famous shooter like columbine was in the 90s, not really many shooters then...
honestly, if i wanted to blame any kind of tech most it would be the internet because while it's good at finding people with similar interests and can be a positive place it can also be a collection of people with similar tastes that are negative like incel forums, serial killers fans etc. and will kind of normalize liking this stuff
i still don't blame the internet but if anything was to blame besides the person and the gun, i'd be more likely to point fingers at the internet in comparison to anything else
It's amazing to me how high this threat and reality has become in my country. I was a Junior in High School when the Columbine High School massacre happened and that was Unbelievable to Everybody! The Pure Shock of it. In less then 25 years this has now, unfortunately, became a typical threat for all schools. And Run, Hide, Fight was a really good movie.
That's so hard for me to imagine... I was born in 1998, so it's been practically nonstop shootings literally my entire lifetime. I can't even really remember a time "before" I was old enough to grasp the concept because it's been such a constant staple. And being from Texas, the gun culture here is absolutely absurd and inescapable everywhere you turn, and our leadership actively opposes any kind of legislation that would keep us safer! It's beyond infuriating. I ended up leaving public schooling in favor of homeschool at age 12 but my mom was a teacher at a public school for a whole other decade and I lived in absolute terror of the idea of this happening at her school. Now it's just nonstop worrying over my teacher friend, my younger relatives, all the elementary age kids I'm a coach for... and I ended up entering college online & still haven't gone in person, because the thought makes me feel so unsafe. I was diagnosed with PTSD totally unrelated to shootings, and yet that became the single biggest trigger for me because gun violence is SO constant in America that it's impossible to go anywhere in public without having hypervigilance cranked all the way up.
we've become so desensitized by mass shootings and school shootings here in the US, I mean just in 2023 we've had over 400 mass shootings just this year. We're just so tired of it.
400? Source? Do they include bb guns?
@@marttheslingoh shut up
I feel like I should’ve had more of a reaction to this but I’m so desensitized to everythingI just went oh kay
Run Hide Fight is a really good movie.
The number of school shootings is insane and every school year brings with it lots of nerves. I hate that my nieces and nephews go through ‘active shooter’ drills and know what to do and where to hide if a shooter comes to their school. That 6 of my nieces and nephews are in one school terrifies me. My niece will be learning her ABCs, numbers, and how to hide from someone with a gun in the next couple months. She’s 4.
I live in the US and there isn’t a person who doesn’t know someone touched by gun violence or who has been touched by it themselves. When I was in 4th grade the little girl who rode next to me on the bus was shot by one of her brothers in an accident. She still sucked her fingers like a toddler when she was sitting on the bus. She was a baby. Just 7. Her brothers were in my class and my nephew’s class. Imagine accidentally killing your sister and living with it. Guns are not kept under strict conditions, not kept put up safely by people who own them, and are too simple to get. I can go to the grocery and leave with a gun to go with my meals for the week.
the fallout is one of my favorite movies its so good and it makes me cry everytime :(
Fr I got traumatized bcs of that movie
Last year my school got threats and it terrified me.. I'm still a little scared till this day. I don't understand why a whole school has to suffer for bullies actions even so, killing isn't right even if you try to justify it.
True, but also you would think the shootings would be a lesson to bullies that this is what can happen when you bully and isolate someone. I'm not sticking up for shooters, but some people can only take so much before they snap, especially if they're not getting the help they need with their mental health. The bullies are a big part of the problem.
I hope one day we can put an end to gun violence altogether, especially in schools where families send their babies to be educated and just be kids. It's a shame you send them off and it's not a guarantee they'll come home. You should react to Kids Meet a School Shooting Survivor. I vaguely remember when I was younger seeing it on the news. I was 11 and it's really heartbreaking and inspiring to hear what the survivor has to say and the kids did a beautiful job asking respectful, deep questions. Both gave awesome respect to each other to understand as heavy as the situation is, you have to laugh and find humor or you'll forever be stuck in that terrible, dark place.
It’s mostly ya thing only happening in the us but i agree
Scariest thing is how random these acts are. Just like that father said he thought it was his son but soon later found out it was a different student. My heart goes out to the families who lives through this nightmare
I say this every time
You send your child to school and they never came back 🥺
I am American and this is very real, very scary. When I was in grade school, we had active shooter and lockdown drills a few times a year and in college, there were several scares while I was attending. Today, there’s literally a new shooting almost every day somewhere in the country and it gets to a point where you’re thinking, “Oh, another one again.” Ofc there’s sadness but, when it happens so often, it becomes just another day and that’s *not* how things should be nor is it fair to the victims and families of these shootings.
Contrary to what the rest of the world may believe, the majority of Americans want common sense gun laws, want our kids to be safe in school and see the gun violence in our country as a failure and corruption of the system. However, no matter how much we want change, it comes down to the National Rifle Association (NRA) and the number politicians and influential people they have in their pockets. Political games like gerrymandering and the electoral college also makes it all the more difficult to create meaningful change to the country as well. Fallout (the last movie) best encapsulates the fear, anxiety and despair of Millenials and Gen Z imo and the real consequences it has had. With 2024’s upcoming election, I’m sure the discourse surrounding school shootings, gun violence and regulation will cause a huge divide between Americans again.
You guys use such a vague statement as “common sense” because you know not everybody agrees with all those laws being proposed
I do not trust, nor believe the government should have information on who is armed and who is not
They’re incapable of not abusing the information or simply being careless with it
@@Dante.- Well, our current system proves that whatever we’re doing now doesn’t work at all and there are also tons of people who also don’t agree with the gun laws (or lack of) that currently stand. Conservatives and the Republican Party also aren’t offering any alternatives aside from “keep as is.” People are literally dying every day and once school starts up again in a few weeks, so will the school shootings. So far, the “good guy with a gun” fantasy from the right-wing, gun nuts hasn’t come to fruition and police have shown that they are also scared and incompetent when it comes to responding to armed threats.
I’m also not sure what’s so vague about what common sense gun laws are trying to accomplish. Banning sale of assault weapons, limiting the number of rounds in mags meant for civilian use, requiring universal background checks and waiting periods in order to buy or transfer gun ownership, requiring proper safety locks and minimum security measures on all firearms, etc. There are literally documents out there that talk about the objectives bullet point style and documents that also elaborate on the specifics of each goal. When it comes to the government knowing your info, I think that’s silly to be concerned about because the government literally already has everything they’d need to identify you. If you file taxes or own an ID/drivers license, the government already has your personal identifying information which can be linked to everything else that has your name attached to it. Are you also concerned about all of that info being known or just concerned about them specifically knowing if you’re armed? You might not agree with everything, neither do I but, there’s no guarantee that everything they want to pass will pass, especially with how divided and polarized political parties are right now. What I will say is that human life, especially the lives of literal kids, should not be the trade off we make so that you can own a weapon. I’m tired of a new shooting every other day, I’m tired of corrupt politicians who won’t do anything unless a check is being written for them and I’m willing to try anything sensible and responsible if it means that kids and teachers stop dying in their classrooms. No gun is worth the very real possibility of tragedy and it looks like we’re the only country who doesn’t seem to get that.
Come and take them, commies.
How about we stop pumping our kids with developing brains full of psychoactive drugs, because they don't act exactly how we want them to? Everyone blames the gun, and misses the CLEAR culprit. Bow to big pharma.
Most of the shootings are gang related.
my personal experience is having kids being part of gangs in my school and coming to school with guns all the time and getting in fights that result in a gun being pulled. one of the most disheartening parts is when i was in class with my friends and we all said " AGAIN!? " and decided if we die we would spend our last moments having fun so we played roblox together while hiding in a closet. I am 16 and a junior in highschool. this is something thats become so common that nobody in my school even bats an eye anymore. we dont have metal detectors or clear bags like other schools either. we have had adults from gangs come in the school from the cafeteria doors to jump kids in the gangs, and people coming to school with 3 guns without safety on, which resulted in a bullet being shot across the gym when he put his bag down. these are only a few of the incidents we've had..
Elephant is a masterpiece, and probably one of the best treatments of a very sensitive issue to ever be filmed.
I've always been super aware of the exits in any building I'm in. Everytime I got a new classroom in highschool, the first thought was "how would I get out of here?" or "Where will I hide?" I've been in actual lockdowns before and the way everyone is just so accepting of it makes me sad. Oncea really loud bang echoed through the school and its like all noise stopped for a full 30 seconds. Nobody said a thing. It wasn't a shooter, but it was the loudest silence I've ever heard.
I hate how the movies blame events like this on video games. Most games are not violent, and even those that are have actually have been found to not increase anger or violence.
Maybe you can react to Korean media involving bullying like The Glory and how common it is. It's a blessing Korea restricts firearm ownership by citizens or else they'd tear each other apart.
They have mass stabbings now, because evil persists, guns or no guns.
that’s a good vid idea
They always address the gun but never the mental health issues
I was a senior when Columbine HS happened, I was the same age as the shooters and most of the vicitms so the shock was real for many of us, I guess you can say I was part of the last class before school shooting lockdowns became a thing. I was a mom when Sandy Hook happened and I just remember crying b/c my kids were the age of the babies that were killed that day. It strange how things are,
I remember when I would rent movies, back in 2003 you could still rent movies at a shop, and I remember renting Elephant because it had a simple cover and I didn't know what would happen but I could tell it was an indie film - shot by somebody who was good at videography but wasn't an expert and I was into that kind of home grown small content even back then. I remember watching with no idea what it was about and truly not realizing until the end, thinking it was so boring just following people around for no reason in a high school. It was SHOCKING.
10:37 the way the girl whom jenna was playing just talked to her sister about getting her first period too and stuff and she sent like a message saying ''i love you'' when she found out there was a shooting it made me cry so much of how relatable this can be to many people and how i would do exactly the same
This actually irks me to no end.
I dont really know how to enter with this, but there was one day my friend dropped a large studying book without realizing, and mostly everyone who heard it started running around and preparing for a school shooting, inlcuding my friend who dropped it. That was kinda telling of just how crappy American schools, or schools in general, are.
There was also one time, my school prepared and acted out on a realistic school shooting drill. They brought the police, had guns, etc etc. THEY EVEN HELD ONE OF MY FRIENDS HOSTAGE. We would have been perfectly fine without the realisticness of it all, because when you stepped out of the classrooms, all you smelled was gunpowder. Really scary :(
They intend to carry them on for the rest of our school time, too.
i have been in countless lockdowns over multiple reasons but honestly the most disturbing part is how calm i was and how nobody else seemed to take it seriously bc we just came to terms with it. in our minds, thats just how it is now and we gotta deal with it
I worked at a university hospital years ago. I was outside when an active shooter announcement was made over the intercom. By all rights, I should not have been let into the building, as we were all trained to do the opposite. A lady happened to have a door open by coincidence and waved at me to come in. Security recognized me and let me go to my unit to hide. When I got there, I helped lock down the whole floor and kept the patients and visitors in their rooms. It was a scary few hours, but the shooter was arrested. One poor soul did get shot in the dorms, and unfortunately, I don’t remember if they lived or not
Oh what? MJ's hair grew so fast! It was only 11 hours ago since the livestream.
Y'all shooting games are not the issue
Facts..it's the GUN
Facts..it's the GUN
@@sweetdulcesunshinenyc Guns don't shoot themselves, genius. Without someone pulling the trigger, they're pretty much harmless. If guns were the culprit of every shooting incident, then, by that logic, a pop star performing on stage isn't doing s**t. It's the microphone doing all the work. And that big essay you wrote back in high school that earned you a high grade? It wasn't you. It was your pencil.
Guns are a tool. They can be used to defend, and they can be used to needlessly harm and kill. In fact, many things can be used as tools to kill. Scissors. Cars. Baseball bats. Rocks. Cyanide. But these tools don't have sentience, so they have no ability to harm people by themselves. It's the evil in people that pushes them to kill.
@@sweetdulcesunshinenyc Fact..it's the PERSON.
Hold up,8.56,Is that jenna Ortega?!
I hate how these type of movies feel the need to put an emphasis on that these horrible monsters played shooter video games. People that do those violent crimes have other things that lead to them getting there, not video games. Many of us who play shooter video games don’t have violent tendencies, it’s simply a video game we enjoy and will usually involve strategy and teamwork, it’s not because we have some sick and twisted mind.
they always make it about video games
love their reactions love from Philippines!
Growing up I remember having fire drills and earthquake drills then suddenly when I hit grade 8 we were doing school shooter drills. Now as a mother I'm terrified to send my daughter to any school when she grows up.
They should show that one Canadian police show with the long take. At least that would give them a new perspective on the police side of the school shooting.
There is a song that talks about it from a shooters perspective. You never hear too much about their side just the crimes they commit.
Jarren Benton- The Shooter
“The song is basically inside the mind of a high-school shooter. But it accounts for what this person is going through on a day-to-day basis to make them feel this way. I hope that people don’t think this is insensitive. The intentions were not malicious, I didn’t want people to think I was making fun of this.”
the reason why that movie is called "run, hide, fight" is because that's what they taught us early on in school. you run, find a place to hide, and be prepared to fight if they find you
Focus more on why they become the monsters everyone has treated them as.. maybe you'll realize the games are the only escape from a reality of failure, torment and abuse.
I remember there was a threat made to one of my local schools, problem was they didn't specify which school they were gonna go to so school was canceled at my high school as a precaution. My parents weren't notified and my mum brought me to school to see the parking lot filled with police cars.
Oh my
@@Thing_one_and_Thing_two Lol yeah, it was a crazy day. I had been notified by one of my teachers the night before that school had been canceled and I told my parents, but since no one contacted them, they thought I was playing hooky.
ChaCha and MJ are my favorite duo.
No, shooting games don't have this effect on people.
Honestly it’s kinda eye opening to see them cry over this when this is like a 50% chance of happening and it kinda is like normal something you don’t think much of when you see you feel bad but it happens often so it’s whatever to you
And you thought your Korean high school TV dramas were so heart-wrenching
I think it would be cool if you guys would do a couple pieces on U.S. Gun Culture. I know it seems crazy that we don't just enact gun laws like every other developed nation, but there's a lot of reasons why we don't. Like the how the right to bear arms is enshrined in the constitution, our focus on individual freedom over collective security, and our distrust of government. I think it would be very cool to see these ideas presented just because of how completely different these values are from Korea. I'm not saying these ideas are right either, just that they're out there and that I'd like to hear what you guys think.
This was a great reaction. I don't know how many times my school when on lock down when i was in school. Now my kids school going through the same thing. Nothing has changed unfortunately.
last school year with literally less than a week left my high school had helicopters and state/county/local police bc someone decided to have a paintball gun in the parking lot. this school year they put in metal detectors and required everyone to wear clear backpacks. its so bs.
Jeez man I can remember the time when there was a school, shooting practice drill, but they told no one so when it happened. People were crapping themselves. I started to run as fast as I could to the class I was supposed to get to in music class
The teachers told us to hide in the closet lock every door, and I didn’t know when it was going to end. All. I remember was complete and utter fear, but when it finally ended, I was confused and terrified, but I was relieved. I started crying. Haha
I remember in high school 9th-grade year which was 2 years ago we had multiple bomb threats and code reds throughout the year, I think the worst one was when it was close to winter break and there was a gas leak plus a code red at the same time, I was with some of my friends in the building close to the gas leak so we were evacuated to the football by police officers literally pointing their guns at us and looking to see if we had our ID's, the rest of the school was stuck in the school for hours on end and police were looking for a gun that was said to be in the school and was going around to each classroom looking for the gun and looking for ID's, even through things like this happen all the time that time I was actually terrified for my life, I held on to my best friend for dear life.
At my school someone wrote a threat with a date in the bathroom but nobody took it seriously and we still had to go to school. Luckily it was a normal day but its scary going to school where your supposed to be safe, not knowing what could happen.
I am a persin living in the usa and this stuff is so normalized i have wached teas kindes of mooves with a strate face and the whole time id think what if i whas thare planing escape roouts always worring at scholl is my issue always scared of shotings😀
I never really been in an active shooting but a threat was made and we all went to lockdown. I don’t think no one was really caring how severe it was cus it was just a threat from what we know, but the person had airdropped the gun. But we all were just scrolling on insta and tiktok. I even asked the teacher if we were going to stay here after 3:05 which is when school is out. We were there for 3 hrs.
In middle school we had a asian teacher and It was an active shooter drill going on, she didn't know what to do. But the kids immediately knew what to and bolted the doors. Its sad how common these shootings are that the kids aren't even fazed by It.
My thing is that people will argue tooth and nail about how to control the ownership of guns and how they should be prohibited so hard that they forget why they are arguing about it, then the conversation becomes more about being right or better than the other side and people just start tearing at each other or being hateful. Instead of remembering that at the end of the day we want to stop tragedies from happening.
I had a family member pass away due to gun violence and the amount of people who made comments about how it was funny and that my family member deserved to die because of how I feel about guns was literally one of the most deplorable things I've had to sit through.
what people tend to ignore is that all of this is a result of neglect from parents and school staff. the amount of bullying the kids go through everyday and the pressure they get from parents are insane, adding to that the school doesn't do anything to the bullies and instead the victims are the ones that get into trouble. now IM NOT SAYING THAT WHAT THEY DID WAS GOOD BUT THIS SHOULDN'T BE PINNED AT VIDEOGAMES ALONE. when I was in HS I took an airsoft gun that I got for my bday to school and tbh that gun was bigger than my backpack. I took that thing to school and shot a few rounds in the girls bathrooms with no one the wiser.
The fallout is the most realistic take of a shooting imo
In the end, these kids are neglected by adults, at home and at school.
The people who are absent that day are absolute geniuses
4:14 as soon as i saw the game HATRED i knew. 😭
All The Other -Kids- KOREANS With The Pumped Up Kicks. Better Run Better Run. Outrun My -Gun- RACISM.
Our school had 2 bomb threats instead of shootings.
The school that I went to required clear backpacks or we wouldn’t be allowed in 😅
Can you do react to D.P next? Will be great to see this girl’s opinion on Korean Military abuse.
as soon as i saw the parking lot in the first film i knew what it was based on
Did anyone ever see the movie "Bang Bang, You're Dead"? Fantastic movie.
In the USA it's not as easy to get a gun legally as you might think. Also, if guns were made illegal in the USA it wouldn't make a difference because the black market gun trade from Mexico is already very prominent. So, what would happen is that guns are illegal to citizens while the black market gun trade (which already exists) would thrive. Banning guns works in some European countries because they don't have neighboring countries that could supply a black market. The USA does because of the already existing black market gun trade through Mexico, and hell even through Canada even though their laws are more strict.
This is what’s called a Monday in American schools now.
One of the biggest school shootings in America was done by a Korean student, in 2007. He killed 32 people and then himself. Even the president of South korea at that time apologized publicly, bc of the massive killer's nationality...
i follow news on school shootings and i see on youtube on their news and its horrible but also in Serbia there was a school shooting in middle school, Serbia is close to Croatia where i live so the news were all over and it's awfull
I want to clear, videogames don't cause violence. I played shooting and violent videogames since I was 11 and I can't harm a fly.
I have a friend who got shot in the north point mall fair and I was shock and scared for her
The constant need to warn kids and be aware of school shootings by making movies will do little to stop this nonsense. The idiot's in their government still believe that guns are necessary in this day and age. That is the problem... Ban any assault (military grade weaponry) from the public domain and there wouldn't be many deaths there. In schools nor on the streets. By restricting possession of such weapons to the population even police officers wouldn't need to carry them. At the end of each movie there should've been a text to ban weapons. Think of it in simple terms....
No alcohol= no alcoholism
No drugs=no drug addiction
No guns=no senseless deaths
I wish they reacted to "All Eyes On Me"
We are so used to shooters in the US that even when visiting countries with strict no gun laws, a mere car backfiring can send us ducking and flinching and scanning the crowd. You can kinda tell who the Americans are from that. We are not okay. Blaming it on games instead of ease of access to firearms, mental health issues, issues of bullying and abuse, issues of neglect and instability... It's not games. Other countries have these games and do not experience mass shootings almost every month. For this year alone, the US has experienced 476 mass shooting events. The year is not over yet and they target when schools are in session and holiday events. It's TERRIFYING. But gods forbid a person's right to live be outweighed by anothers right to bear arms. The way it gets lost in the news cycle so quickly because it's so common is a sign of how as a country, it's kinda expected now.
Im a damn minor im not even in high school yet and I have to deal with the constant fear of a shooting happening. People need to stop. We also need more safety. It f ing dumb and absolutely rediculous. Especially the amount of times my school and others get threats. Last year we got a threat and we still had to stay in school. Please if anyone can explain why?
while i appreciate people taking the time to learn about things outside of their culture i think there's some dangerous phrasing being tossed around. the movie is kind of at fault tho because they keep focusing on the video games the boys are playing. violent video games haven't been found to lead kids to do violent acts like these. there have been countless studies and video games are never found to be the catalyst/cause. we're seeing a spike in shootings not because of how prevalent video games are now, but because of horrible gun laws/gun control here in the united states. studies also show that shootings tend to spike after another mass shooting was heavily reported on. other than that, another great video from OSSC
Even with stricter gun regulation laws, it is so damn easy to get your hands on a gun. The people behind the shootings always have acess to firearms due to their parents/relatives/friends having them kept in easy to acess places.
Es terrible lo que sucede en USA todavia, pero aun asi no hacen nada para combatirlo. Lo que realmente se deberia hacer...
Usually these shooters take the guns from the parents because they weren't locked up properly
I’m tired of folks using shooter games as a scapegoat. I’ve played my fair share of shooter games and never in my life I think of ending another’s. It’s the person, not the game.
“I am not ashamed “ was an amazing movie. Also based on a true story of Columbine.
the christian one?
@@akutagawa.. Yes, it’s based on Rachel joy Scott. The movie is based on journal that she wrote. So it’s her story. What was going on in her life and how she lost and found herself.
Bro ive played ganes like this since i was young and i could never be like this
It’s very scary I been in a bomb threat at my school once
Who tf hasn’t? I’ve been through 5 back to back in middle school
You should have them react to that one back to school sandy hook advertisement
i think they have? unless i’m thinking of another channel 🥲
Something I always say as gen z is if I die I die 🤷🏾♀️
Today is March 14th, 2024. The 74th day of the year.
As of the latest report the US has had 82 mass shootings, 157 dead and 254 wounded. So far this year we've had 22 days without a mass shooting.
And as for our elected representatives at the federal, state and local levels who get millions of dollars of "Not Bribe Money" stuffed into their pockets from the firearms industry, when they find doing nothing is still too much work they send "Thoughts and Prayers"!
Today is September 6th, 2024. We just had another school shooting 2 days ago. 4 innocent lives were lost. Today, 3 schools in my town were put into lockdown due to threats, and in another state, a 12 year old boy was shot by a classmate in the bathroom today. We just heard a politician say it's time to "get over it" and another say "its not time for politics or safety procedures, it's time to give our thoughts and prayers". Every time, it's the same response. I've been hearing the same thing from our leaders since I was 12 when Sandy Hook happened.
there is no correlation between games and violance, it has been studied soooo much. Its the bullying and the ease of buying guns in the US, the lack of mental healthcare also doesn't help. kids all around the world play those games, but school shootings don't happen in countries all around the world, not even school stabbings
I hope one day no gun violence and bullying students cause we don’t know if they become explosive 😢
(2004) Degrassi: The Next Generation - "Time Stands Still" episode where Drake gets shot