East German Rain Camo Effectiveness PART I
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- In this video we look at the effectiveness of the old East German camouflage commonly known as "Rain Camo" in a woodland environment in the fall/winter season.
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This pattern is surprisingly effective. Without a lot of cover it's easy to make your silhouette, but when this stuff kicks in, it kicks in hard. I imagine it would be just as good in summer because there would be more foliage and the neutral tones would absorb local colour well. Thanks for these videos. You clearly put a lot of effort into them and they are a great aid in evaluating different patterns.
Thanks man, I appreciate it.
I need to get this strichtarn camouflage right away. I never realized it was so effective.
03:00 is amazing, even looking at it over and over it still gets me how well it works.
Same one stumped me
optical illusion with the simplest means made in gdr
Y'know, though another viewer said he picked you out almost every time, I am surprised at how effective this camo is. I think he picked you out because he KNEW you were in the pic, and with a limited amount of places to hide, it was easier for someone who ALREADY knew you were there. If I didn't know you were there, I doubt I'd have picked you out more than a couple of times, if that. If you remain motionless, and aren't wearing something that absolutely clashes with your background it is damn hard to pick out someone trying to not be found. Again, the camo does what it is designed to do! The colors are remarkably similar to those in the background, and what little pattern there is, does a good job of providing some "texture" to the camo. The result is pretty good, if you don't expect camo perfection from the pattern.
Well he was also wearing a tanker helmet and not much other break-up stuff. I could see the human shape. Also, who would see anyone if they weren't looking for them
Hey Brent you made a mistake, we in east german army NEVER had the trowser inside the boots but always outside! Only the russians had the trousers inside the boots...
Kevin Schmidt My apologies if that's the case. Before I filmed this video I had looked online for some examples of E. German troops and I had seen some pictures of some troops with their pants tucked in. The first place I saw it was in this video th-cam.com/video/lOWeetgrq_w/w-d-xo.html (At 11:39&11:49 in that video).
Hello Brent, no need for apologies.
I'm sure in the video it deceives.
The trousers in the video are only moved up outside the boot. This sometimes happend if you move fast. If your Uniform is an original, please check: As far as I remember there was a flap outside on the real end of each leg and two plastic bottons (on the ankle side of the leg). So you could fix the trousers leg loose or more tight around the boot. Please have a closer look. ... If you choose the wider variant something like in the video easily happen, But normally the leg did not move more upwards then the boot length...
This is out of my memory (25years ago now :-) )
It could be that there where also uniform variants with only one botton.
I'm sorry but I'm too lazy right now to got to the basement and check my old uniform...
BTW Did you find the pocket for the pistol at the jacket? (left breast side?)
ahh found something: you can see moved upwards but still outside. all the others always over the boots. (it was forbidden to put them inside)
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+Kevin Schmidt can you make a youtube channel about the east army I relly would love to here what it was like I alwayed wondered what it was like then
Kevin , maybe you could tell me what the strap inside the Collar of the tankers shirt is for?? Is it to attach a shortened AK to? or perhaps secure the tanker to the tank ?? .. thanks
+Kevin Schmidt Really appreciate your first hand knowledge. Awesome to hear. A sincere thanks to you.
I’m blown away by the effectiveness of this camo! Especially for being pretty much one color (minus the “rain drops”) and having no disruptive pattern to it.
Solid colours are surprisingly effective as long as you give a little bit of thought to using the environment to your advantage
We called it "Ein Strich - kein Strich" (one stroke - none stroke). I would say it is a very good camouflage for cold and cloudy surroundings.
An other name for it is "strichtarn"
(I'm Form East germany)
"Stricheldruckmuster" - Strichtarn besteht aus Cowboystiefeln, Vokuhila-Frisur und Bomberjacke :D
Also ich kenne es unter dem Name ein strich kein strich und strichtarn
Maybe a more faded uniform could work in arid environments
Man, this video really does demonstrate the importance of camouflaging your face, pretty much anytime Brent has his face visible it's practically glowing
I love this camo, I find that it blends into most environments that have green, brown, tan or gray.
In a way it's ahead of it's time, not to mention I think the actual design of the jackets and pants are also ahead of it's time.. Like how the pockets are on the arms
Brent you have the best camouflage demo videos on youtube, I love East German Strichtarn for a simple two color pattern it's very versatile infact it predates multicam by about 50 years. When winter rolls around again you should Mossy Oak Shadow Grass and just out of curiosity how many camo patterns do you own?
What can I say, I like camouflage. The woodland, Tricolor Desert, Woodland & Desert Marpat I have because I was issued during my time in the Marine Corps.
I'm a huge fan of camo also I always look forward to you're videos as always keep up the great work and keep em coming.
Like camo my self I have ucp (acu),8 desert aka cholttloe chip, A tacs in au and fu ,m81 woodland , Asian tiger stripes, deresert tiger stripes, multi camo, British Dpm woodland and German flecktarn
And 3 desert aka coffee stain
Quite revolutionary in the fact that is was the first attempt at a digital style camo.
Best video i have aeen on camp yet.... havent seen you at all until you moved. Better than all the other camos you have shown. Simple but yet it works
Thanks for posting and sharing. Nice to see that the camo works really good at distance and in the prone position.
Dude, it's incredible how this dude has every kind of camo you can imagine! Like every army, if a new country appears, he will probably have it in his wardrobe! Considering that there are more from 200 countries in the world, I wanna imagine the size of his wardrobe! Btw, he has not only the uniform, but even the equipments!
It would be kinda cool if you found some of the Czech/Slovak "rain camo", it's a little more "complicated" pattern. The "rain" is lighter brownish-red and there are "flecks" of greenish in the camo, it' fairly common, but if not, I do have some parkas in it I could loan or sell you. The "woodland" Czech/Slovak is neat too, obvious ERDL influences.
I would have to say overall its a decent color scheme and pattern, as long as you are properly using it.
Every single example except for the 3rd one (the first shot with the creek) I was able to almost immediately pick out your hiding position, Either it jumped out at me instantly or with one quick scan of the area I saw something that didnt look right.
To clarify, I never saw something that could clearly be identified as a person hiding, but I could always see something that didnt look right, and in a situation where you are looking for guys in camo anything that doesnt look right is a threat.
That being said I was easily able to spot you because I was looking for you and I knew you were there somewhere. and the one time I couldnt, The First River shot I saw two things that didnt look quite right and I guessed thats where you were, but I still got it wrong. The "effectiveness" of the pattern in that example was more of a demonstration of the effectiveness of using concealment and terrain properly. The pattern you are wearing isnt as important at that point. Im sure you would have been just as well hidden wearing ATACS or Multicam.
So overall I would have to say its a great surplus buy, I dont think any modern pattern could have done much better, and with some proper use of camo techniques and proper use of the terrain for an ambush you could literally melt into the surroundings wearing that.
I realize that you were just showing the camo pattern, not doing an exercise in field camo, and ambush tactics, so Im not trying to say you were doing it wrong. Quite the opposite, By just going out and laying in various surroundings without building a concealment position around you you demonstrated the camo perfectly. you showed it just by itself in natural surroundings.
Great Vid man
SavageShooter93 Thanks man, glad you enjoyed it.
Excellent Channel! Thanks for the all the great camouflage demonstrations
Love these videos that demonstrate camouflage! Keep up the great work!
I’ve got a set of these. They are very nice and really do hide you in the environment.
In Germany it was actually called 'Ein Strich - Kein Strich' (On Stripe no stripe) because the Stripes were basicly useless on distance and it was more like a solid camo =)
Awesome job on the video. You were really able to show us the effectiveness of the camo in this terrain. I haven't checked out your other videos yet, but as a suggestion, you could sit in the same locations wearing jeans and a blue jean jacket or something that stands out to prove how easy it is to see you without camouflage on.
Very effective Winter or dry period camoflage. We used to use the mag pouches due to foreign weapons training.
+Mike Box Were you a ddr soilder?
No, I spent 10 ywars in the US Army. But have been a collector since my youth. I have collected many, many camo patterns from around the world. And run a business that sell surplus and historial military matera froma round the world. I Am also an amature Miltiary Historian. with a degree in History.
Mike Box
I read your comment wrong, sorry.
no problem.
Great cammo for the location I have a uniform just no boots cant find any for my small feet in the German sizes.
Allan Nelson really? Man, I usually see East German boots for small sizes all the day.... keep looking, I know they're out there.
*****
I wear a US 6.5 even a 7 can be big on me.
Allan Nelson Though I prefer to wear my moccasin boots when out in the woods. They work really well with the pants.
This pattern seems to be very effective in both winter and summer! Brent, please tell me. In your opinion, what is the best pattern you have tested for winter in wooded terrain such as your home in Texas?
ATACS AU is pretty effective in the fall/winter and FG in the spring/summer. There are plenty of effective pattern for my environment though.
@@Brent0331Thanks! I just went back and read this after four years!
Nice Waffen Werks German AK-74; fits the camo well!
+chouyi007 Its actually a CAI '74, but thanks anyways.
Very impressive. Would love to see how this does in arid/desert.
To my eyes it looks pretty effective. However I was able to spot you out within a couple of seconds each time. I believe it's because there's no pattern to break of the curvature of the human figure. The color alone is good but if this camo were to have a sharp pattern I believe it would be very affective.
Good videos btw.
peytonmanning04 Thanks
a couple seconds Each time? bullshit eagle eyes. Strichtarn does a damn good job.
I saw him too, its because of his shape, needs to be broken up more also he was too shiney for his background. Old worn dirty combats are always better, basic colour is good......jmho
That's because you were looking for him, and knew he was there.
Great video man, I think the brown dominant version of raindrop would be more effective for the fall/winter. And the green dominant is perfect for spring/summer.
wow 3:00 had me fooled
Yeah that scared the shite out of me.
Kung Pow lol
Not gonna lie immediate thought was, "woah what the fuck?!?"
It's a versatile pattern and blends well with most any environment. I live in S.C. Our weather and terrain are among the most varied in N. America. Only thing it won"t disappear in is a snowy field.
Super! Die Wirkung der Tarnung wird hier gut demonstriert. Allerdings wurden bei der ostdeutschen Armee (NVA) die Hosenbeine über die Schäfte der Stiefel getragen.
richtig- ich habe dort gedient
I am fond of your videos Bro- whenever I want to check if my opinion is of substance I cross-check it with yours
Idk if it was just me but I somehow spotted you in every clip except one at 3:00. Like I just had a hunch and was right each time. The pattern is cool and the colors are very good but I feel like the pattern doesn't do much to break up the wearer's silhouette. Shadows are your friend with this camo
I served in the east german army called NVA...the Camo never got named "Strichtarn " we always called it "1 strich-kein strich" cuz its 1 line and non line followed by 1 line and non line...copied ??
I recently got one of those jackets for under 5$, the downside is its worn and faded af....the lines are almoust gone and i had to remove elastic cord which almost turned to dust
Very nice camo set. I have some magazine packs and a grenade pack. Knowing it will be hard to match the entire set. Can't wait til I get what you have. Not sure if I'll go with the olive or brown one. Any clues on which one will be better?
Solid video! I did pretty good finding you but on a couple I second-guessed (sp?) myself.
The river shot where you were on the left side of the bed I thought it was the little pile to your left.
no Rain Camo
it is "Ein Strich, kein Strich" (one stroke of the brush, no stroke of the brush)
joke from my grandfather
Cherusker I asked my dad what was the camouflage called and he said that exact thing haha.
Correct, thats how the germans referred to the camo. But it still belongs to the "rain-camo" family that emerged from many Warsaw-Pact countries.
I think Italian vegetato would do well here too. That camo has everything except spruce forest and winter snow down pat
I came to this video expecting a joke. I walked away THOROUGHLY IMPRESSED! They picked the right two colors, for sure.
Still blends in well. Except that at at distance, fine prints don't work as well for breaking the outline of a figure.
The color, however, is spot-on.
it would be awesome if Mil Tec produces rain camo in the US bdu platform. i.e. 6 pockets pants and 4 pockets jacket.
It performed well, but I think coyote tan did better. No supply issues with the latter. Great vid. One thing is for sure, a prone shooter could bring a lot of hurt on the unsuspecting.
So what did you think about the uniform overall (comfort, serviceability). Would you recommend the rain camo? Good video's , thanks!
Only if you can get surplus uniforms at a good price. There are better options out there. Its good for what it is, but I think its main attraction would be the price.
I really like your videos. keep it up.
Thanks man.
This camo is shockingly effective. You can pick him out if you know what to look for but only really if you know that he's somwhere in the scene. This is all done with a 2 colour camo too
I was just watching on my phone and I would say more than half the time the pattern popped out easily, not that I knew it was a human but that it definitely looked wrong. I thought to myself several times, that might be him, that might be a log; I'll keep scanning and remember this spot. It's sufficient for making someone second guess.
Nice. I Always love Your vids. Very informative! Boots: I have to confirm the thoughts of Kevin Schmidt. If you wore the pants in your boots, it was really trouble! Maybe it could happen in the service. You had to correct it.
Wow here in the states it’s very affective! I need to go try this out tomorrow! Does anyone know how effective it was in Germany tho?
Very effective even when it was summer and a lot greener it still worked well considering it's a simple pattern
Any tips for keeping the pants up since they don't come with belt loops?
N3FF42 You can wear suspenders. The pants I have just happen to be the right size for me so I don't need any.
+N3FF42 originally we had suspenders. color grey. see the buttons inside the trousers...
really liking these tests,
i expected this pattern to be more effective, but i picked you out almost straight away each time, (to much of a solid color maybe?)
... maybe i'm just familiar with these as i have the summer and padded winter field jacket,
"rain camo" is meaning in east german "a line - no line" (ein strich - kein strich) or "needle camouflage" (nadeltarn). search for east german nva "feldtarn" or "blumentarn"
When did you pick up the 74?
I picked that up back in 2010, after the prices finally started dropping back down to what they should be after the ’08 election.
Where you bought the Boots i didnt can find the nva Boots at Amazon
I sometimes wonder who comes up with patterns like acu ? lol I love how you review and have the right gear boots and all great job could you do an asat camo review
that wasn't me I did not mention acu but did mention asat
At the time the army desired too go with ucp aka acu they were too cheap too pay cryo for royalties and rejected a tacs
So, not terrible, but it still kinda sticks out if the enemy knows there is somebody nearby.
I noticed something in all but 1 of the tests and that something was you.
The kind I have is more green then brown. Did they produced different variants of it?
Not bad. At this point, the reddish wood of the gun is the strongest visual giveaway. Black plastic furniture would be better. Something gray or earth toned even better than that.
The light skin of your face is then the next feature that sticks out most from a distance. Face paint or a light mesh face mask would help enormously.
Effective or not; ya gotta love jackets with built in holsters.
Saw you every time but once. Fun.
i bought last month six tshirt of that camo love it so much
Does the stripes actually make any difference?
I'm buying a seat for my BMX bike that has real German Rain drop canvas covering it. Looks amazing, plus I'm into military items!
Nice
@@Brent0331 Very cool video btw!👍
In your oppion what would you think is a good spring/summer camo and a good fall/winter camo or all around.
don't you have an East German MPiKM?
I have heard that this pattern was also effective against early IR. Can anyone confirm this ? I have a few pieces, and all are of really nice quality.
+Greg Weber I have a cheap infrared night vision camera with illuminator and it does fantastically against it. Even the web gear is dull and drab without being too light or dark.
+ley p thanks for the reply. I always wondered . I served during the cold war and the Intel folks told us that the NVA and Romanian patterns were really effective against IR.
Be nice if this strichtarn camo was available in ripstop BDU
In the beginning of the video was kind of tough altough I did find him 99% (1:57, he played me like a fiddle) of the time but I feel like Towards the end he didn't even try
I'd like to see a test with that in spring
You should use the sniper veil on the hood.
Can you get some russian digital flora.. The kind they are using in Ukraine. It looks like it has a small digital grouping with spread out pixels so I don't know if it is effective in breaking up the human shape. I think you can get the whole uniform for around $80
I might actually do that one, I’ve been shopping around for that pattern for the past few days.
yeah im kind of skeptical about it. it looks like there is a tannish pattern and an olive pattern looks like it works well in grass id like to see how effective it is in woodland environments though
it low contrast so from a distance it looks like regular olive drab
ive been thinking about getting a new pattern. I live in the northwest where lots of multi environment patterns don't work. The patterns ive seen work and like are cadpat flectarn and marpat. I was wondering if you could recomend any other patterns
If you have seen those patterns you listed in action and like how they preform just get one of those.
I never understood the purpose of the tiny vertical lines. It just seems pointless as it's barely noticeable until you get extremely close. It doesn't have anything too disruptive about it.
Your guess is as good as mine.
***** the tiny vertical lines are ment to imitate the needles of firs and other needle trees like I said this camo is for the german woods ^^
I found the strichtarn camo uniform but do you know where I can find the camo hood for the uniform ?
Ebay best bet.
@@Brent0331 ok thank you very much
However I prefer their previous Blumentarn style gear.
Is there a specific reason why the video suddenly sharpens when you reveal yourself?
velikiradojica Never noticed it, but I would guess if it does its the camera auto focusing in on me since i'm moving closer to the camera once I reveal my position.
***** It only happens with your first reveal as far as I remember. Thanks for the answer.
Can you test it's ancestor, Splittertarn 31?
Is the headgear in the video also DDR produced?
Yes
That's the helmet cover and it has a face net as part of it.
Aber die Hose kommt über die Stiefel 😊
The best camouflage are video compression artifacts.
Not bad , if you can smooth out the bumps and blend in with where you are .A base of a tree should be smooth not bumpy.-,I can pick you out.. Take away the unevenness and I can't see you. In Vietnam I would have tossed a grenade if not sure ! It always worked !! Great video's.Thanks !!
are you Vietnamese? Or American?
Where's Wally?
Only spotted you 4 times
Great JOB! It is really encouraging to see other NVA enthusiasts showing their collection. For more help with what you need for your kit, check out www.onvauc.org
Nice
Isn’t the best camo . I like though for the fall winter woods of Ohio
It uesd too be . Now it is hard too find in non midget sizes
Got to Wear Coyote Brown boots. Them black boots just arent doing it.
Be a darn good huntin camo
Epic
Oh man, die Ossis sind immernoch im Wald unterwegs :D
Pants were to be worn over the boots!
sunglasses tho
Vietcong?
What about them?
Brent0331 I could Not see you You were that good
Oh, thanks.
looks like mossy oak bottomlands
Worked fine till ya stood up
Wariants cmamuflwge ll war lll Reich adoptive post war ll Sowiets East Europe DDR, Poland, Czechosłowacja, Bulgarian "Rain Camuflage" Uniwersal patern Warsaw PAKT!
Lousy camo. You were easy to spot with the screen on mini, and without searching.