How to make Oil Painting Panels!
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Making painting panels. Making Canvas Panels. In this demo Andrew Tischler shows you 2 ways for making a great surface for painting on. One way for quick studies, and making panels on the cheap, and another way for saleable masterpieces of an archival quality!
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Fun story, ...as a 10 year old, an old man who was an artist, across the street from my house, made canvases for me to paint by using a natural, coarse thread, upholstery fabric. (even had colored flowers and prints)...he glued them onto wood, and then painted them white with some kind of house paint! Totally un-archival, I am sure, but for a kid, the opportunity to paint was magical.
Hey, I used to paint on those. I used drapes for my senior year art project!
Guests tend to want for play with my expensive professional materials so I buy the $10 canvas drop clothes from Home Depot & paint them with cheap house paint. Usually the $15/gallon crap from Wal-Mart or a suitable gallon of "oops". Then I just cut the drop cloth into various sizes. For a step up, you can use a cheap gesso and hit it with the sander. Lol
I gesso anything with mix of
White wood glue.
Pva,house paint.
Johnsons talc powder
My student was just asking how she could mount her canvas paper paintings onto boards ....she purchased some Masonite or tempered hard brown board. I am glad we stumbled upon your video. ....turns out, we BOTH already were subscribers. Thanks dude, you’re awesome. Have a good one!!!
The amount of knowledge and tips here are priceless! Thanks man!
No worries Gabriel!
I learn so much every time I watch one of your videos. Thank you for sharing your knowledge. I love your art and am so inspired to continue improving my own art each time I watch your videos.
Andrew I am overwhelmed with your generosity. Thank you for all the wonderful knowledge that you impart.
Thanks En Tee! :)
Here, here. Best content on TH-cam for Art. Best of information, brilliantly communicated. He's fair to middling at actually painting 😉😂 but the videos are different class. That skull painting with Magnolia grandiflora behind in this video is my favourite so far and I loved the video for it. Choosing composition and everything, where else would you see it?
Brilliant Andrew. Many thanks for a very useful and informative video.
Andrew, thank you for another wonderful and informative quick tip.
Thanks a lot for the tricks and tips. I always wanted to know about a safe and efficient way to make linen panels. I love what you are doing. Thanks a lot again for sharing.
Very useful as I'm preparing some panels ready for painting - thanks again Andrew
really good vids- breath of fresh air to listen to Andrew Tischler - what an honest painter. (Only thing hard for me is the constant four note pattern repeated over and over in the 'background')
Thank you so much...Your articulation and personality together create a wonderful experience for the public. Lucky New Zealand!
amazing video, thank you so much. now i learnd how to prime my canvas with earth hue. i appreciate you effort to make those clips from yout own time.
Thanks for ALL the tips you share with us! I'd love to see you do more wildlife, birds. God Bless!
If you seal mdf, it's as water resistant as any plywood, but much less likely to wrap, and more important, crack. Plywood, especially thin, is notorious for splitting with the grain as the adjacent ply swells and contracts. That's why mdf may be a better choice, if you seal it was polyurethane or dewaxed shellac.
I typically use shellac to seal my MDF boards. It works great!
really enjoyed you video. covered a subject that i knew little about. thank you so much.
Good information. It's always good to have a new option for preparing panels.
You are a wealth of information! I am so glad I found your channel!
Great video! This would be a project to make good use of time when having a "painter's block" moment. Thank you for pointing out that the "stained color" is what shows through the painting as the undertones.
Kelly Lamb in Kansas, USA.
Hey Andrew another benefit of painting the canvas a solid mute color like burnt umber is it allows your white paint to become an independent color not shackled to the background!
Indeed
This is my first time watching you....I SUBSCRIBED!!! Smiles.....I want to see everything you do!
I'm learning so much by watching you, thank you. 😃
I LOVED THIS VIDEO!!! your early work was Fantastic!! You can not judge your early landscapes- you were learning your craft - and how to get your work out there - really important period- you do love the earth- so do I!
a brayer (roller) like used in printmaking would be great for smoothing out the linen after pva application
Great vídeo!! Thanks for sharing this technique
Great video as always. These little bits of information are so helpful. Thank you!
Cheers James, no worries.
Andrew, your videos and paintings are very inspiring. I especially found the "I'm stuck" talk helpful. I have resolved to continue working and growing in my craft as well. Thank you for your instruction and encouragement!
My pleasure Debbie!
I always make sure there is at least ½ an inch of canvas sticking out on each side of my intended size of canvas so a 10 * 12 size canvas would be 11 * 13, I have found that by adding after applying glue to the board I then also add an inch/ 25mm band of glue around the edges on my canvas as well , I'll even go over the marked out board size on the back of the canvas by ¼ inch / 6mm really helps to reduce the waves of popped canvas and a brayer dedicated glueing boards for rolling out bubbles really helps. Thanks for these videos which you put out on the tube.
Very knowledgeable and fast to the point!
Thanks for your generous videos, Andrew. Can you say a bit about the reinforced panel that you use for the archival version? I haven't run across pre-made panels like that. Did you make one, and/or how is it constructed? Is it regular plywood backed up with a pine reinforcing edging? I wonder if one could use regular stretcher bars to reinforce a canvas panel. (Maybe I've answered my own question :).
Great advice and hacks here Andrew!Thx again.
Very useful information. Thanks Andrew ☺️
Great stuff! Thanks for sharing!
Thank you Andrew for post this video on canvas panels.
March 17 was my birthday and we're the same name and also I'm an amateur artist, still 2018 after I watch your videos. I was inspired on your paintings thank you. New subscriber here 🙂
Andrew's world Andrew's world, Painting time! EXCELLENT!
Lol! Thanks for all the advices! They mean a lot for new arts students like me! Salutes from Argentina!!
Is there anytime you would use a cooler/ Grey wash on the canvas? Thank you Andrew, for your generosity of knowledge, it means SO much to the artists out here!
Thank you so much for the great videos
great tutorial. Many thanks
I have learned so much from you I wish I would have known you years ago hope it’s not too late now I’m 87 love your beautiful paintings and your voice thank you so much for your sharing your wonderful talents
Thanks, Mr Tischler!
what a blased man. thank you andrew.
Andyyyyyy!!! - I’m thinking to myself: “how did I miss this video?!” - I’m glad it appeared! Thank you for this!
Excellent work, thanks appreciate
So handy, great ideas, your like Google answer anything about painting materials.
Thanks for sharing.
Cheers Sue! Not quite Google, and I don't have ALL the answers, just what works for me!
I really enjoy your charismatic approach in teaching. I bought a very high quality camera recently and I was trying to do a video recording on how to but it took me like 4 hours and I'm only have done. At the same time I had my two teenage daughters and there friend over learning from me and there was so much stop and go that they had to hang it up unfinished until the next time. You are truly organized sir. Keep doing what you are doing.
Cheers Eddie, I hear you. You have to eliminate the distractions! I wouldn't say I'm an expert on the process, but I feel like we're improving our methods. :)
Dear Andrew, ❤️
I only have one non review article uploaded
But it’s so good to see you do this
The “fun,” I have had with bubbles on larger boards, with sized but not primed linen
I will definitely spot you a couple of pints if you ever come to Oxfordshire England
I much prefer non wobble stability of hard backs
Very best wishes
Henry
Great info as always. If you sandwich your board and canvass between two sheets of greaseproof lunch wrap and then between two sheets of 18mm melamine (old cupboard shelving units) with a weight on top (overnight) you won't have the issue with bubbles on the edge and they will dry flat. The lunch wrap is to prevent the glue from adhering to the melamine. When you take them out the next morning they are not 100% dry but they will be 100% adhered. Please ignore if you've tried this already.
Thank you Andrew.
Ever time I learn more from you in 15 min than I did in 5 years on the painting academy. Painting directly on wood (without linen) doesn't feel right 4 me. Also, blocking the backside of the panel is mandatory. You are a beautiful master. Arigato 🙏🏿
I love it!!!!
Andrew, what brand of pre primed linen do you use? Thanks a bunch!
If you want even glue coverage roll it out with an ink roller
Very informative video ❤️
Thanks for this. I came across a place that makes MDF panel. Huge, cheap panels and I was about to paint on them (after sealing)... but after you mentioned that MDF isn't at all friendly or archival, I'll stick to canvas.
Great video!!
Do you ever paint on gesso boards (without linen)?
Love all the great tips. Thanks again for sharing your wealth of knowledge.
If you already said that there is an amount of shrinkage from the edges that takes place why did you measure out for extra linen only, to then cut your board exact-to-size? I thought you were trying to avoid exact edging cuts so that you don't have to worry about the linen creeping away from the edging? Also, I don't get why you have dried paint in a jar 6:48?
Thanks for the great tips!
What I don't fully understand is the key difference between the two methods (besides standard vs archival PVA and the more elegant cutting method which one could also use in the simpler case). Is it the _reinforced_ panel on its back side? As far as I know linen does not stretch or shrink too much in response to moisture, which is not the case with (ply)wood panels - is this why the panel is reinforced (archival case) to make it more stable? A sealed simple panel without the reinforcement might expand (in humid conditions) ruining the more rigid canvas?
Thanks a lot!
Very helpfully thank you
Good tip mate. Cheers Graham
Hi! thanks for sharing all thoses informations!
thanks! can you do a tutorial on your palette set up?
Very helpful as always. Can you please tell me if it is ok to paint on a piece of canvas cut out of a roll? ( It seems easier to store and to courier for competitions and to exhibitors too)
Thank You for great video! Will PVA adhesive will be enough to mount thick, sturdy canvas to cradled panel?
Kind of a silly question, but where did you get your shirt? It's so cool! Thanks for the great video!
Awesome video, great tips! wth with your super idea about the liquin/paint/thinner/screws combo! btw, I've done paintings that are now over 40 years old on masonite and they are still like the day I painted them. Love your stuff:)
Question: can you paint on the fabric though it's not on panels? I have five huge fabric that were taken off canvases.
Good information.
Suuuper explanation!!!!!!!!!!
Hello Andrew,
I was wondering if you would be able to tell me what’s the perfect measurement for my ground layer is when I’m mixing my turpentine ,liquin original and burnt sienna to get the best consistency.
Kind regards
Jack
Your tips are always welcome and very useful.
I'm always wondering if I should start making my own canvases. I might do it some other time to test the methods present here - it looks like entertaining but I can't make a habit of it as I have limited space at home. Any suggestion?
Well, if space is a concern, these panels don't take up much room! Also, you can stretch canvases pretty small. It all depends on your requirements!
MDF is fine as long as you seal it properly. Golden Acrylics recommend 2 coats of Gloss medium on front, back and sides before apply gesso to the front and sides.
These are just excellent trics. After rewatching several times, one question, Andrew: Is there a reason why you wouldn't go ahead and gallery wrap the edges so you wouldn't have to frame the painting? Just wondering because I need ways to save money.
Thanks for the vid, but I was hoping to find out how to make an archival panel. Unfortunately that one just appeared out of nowhere.
Same here....
Hi, I’m late to the party - I paint with acrylics, not oils. What would you use to prepare/stain the surface before starting to paint with acrylic? Loved this video, thanks.
Can you please make a video with diy archival panel and gesso♥️♥️♥️
Question: If I have a large photographic canvas backdrop, can I cut that into smaller sections to make my own paint panels or canvases?
I usually purchase 8' X 4' X 1/8" sheets of hardboard from a large hardware store and then cut the sizes that I want. This hardboard is very smooth on both sides but I nevertheless prime with acrylic paint, sand with a very fine sandpaper and then re-prime, using acrylic with a small amount of water to make the acrylic runny and that fills in any rough areas from the earlier sanding. Have you ever tried using this method and if so, what is our opinion?
Yeah, I used to do this and it's a pretty decent panel to paint on I must say. It really is a preference thing. I enjoy the feel of the weave of fabric. This is why I adhere it to the ply. Hardboards aren't generally considered archival.
Andrew if I stain uncounted canvas first ~ can I then Inkjet photocopy a picture on top ~ if so I can the mount the canvas same as you did on 6mm pine and have for my book covers?
Great video Andrew, and I especially liked the recipe for the under painting. I am going to use that, thank you
Awesome!
Great video - thanks so much. I have a roll of unprimed linen - can I still use it? Would you do anything differently? Thanks again, Margie
Use that! No problem, just get out some gesso after you adhere it to the board. Try something like sizing to attach it to the panel.
Thank you
Hiii sir.....
Can you make a video of making frames for canvas paintings....please make a video...
I wish I had seen this earlier in the week. I just made a load of panels and I think your method would have been much better !!!!!!
Can any ply wood panel be used for placing the panel on? Just as long as it is a certain thickness?
Sir thank you very much
Hey Andrew! thanks for such awesome information! I find these good quality tips about panels very hard to find. I was a little confused to whether the MDF board or the plywood was archival IF it is sealed with the GAC 100? Or if it has to be all of these: plywood, sealed and extra support on the back? I am asking as it is not available in Norway with premade plywood boards, only MDF :S I found a plywood panel today which has that extra support in the back, however not sealed. I have purchaced GAC 100, but I wont be able to seal behind that extra support.. If sealed mdf or plywood (without the extra support) is archival, I will use that. Would make it easier without the (ca 3mm) extra support regarding framing as well...
MDF is not archival. It is hungry for moisture. I would avoid it. Use ply, particularly "dress pine" or birch. These are good options. You may not need to seal the back if it is reinforced.
Are you still making the panels in this same way or are there any upgrades that you have discovered?
excellent
Thank you, Andrew. Very educational and informative as always! Can you recommend an adhesive product or a process to mount existing painted canvas to a hardboard? I have several paintings that have been compromised over time and by the elements, and I'm looking to mount to hardboard as the canvas is too fragile to re-stretch. Any recommendations in accomplishing this would be appreciated. Thank you
Hi, Andrew! where did you get the archival panel and the pva from and what dimensions do the panels come in? Also should I seal the side of the panel that I glue the canvas/linen onto as well? P.S: your accent is very therapeutic to listen to
Some old T shirt material and Elmers glue or gesso also works.
Where do you get the archival panel that is reinforced? Did you make them? You did not mention how you get those. Thanks!
Is there something wrong with the Windsor & Newton canvas panels that I'm missing? Genuine question here. I absolutely love all of AT advice, knowledge, knowhow, DIY videos. They are priceless and inspirational. Time wise and finished product Vs price it seems to be a push economically to just store buy primed artists canvas panels in bulk. 8x10 W&N Artists canvas panel €2 locally.
The thing to consider about painting on a very dark/black ground is that oil paints tend to become translucent with age.
What type of linen and where do you get it?
Can you make larger (30” x 40”) panels if you back support them with 1” x 2” grid?
For final paintings, I want to use something that someone can cut down for me. I've heard mdf is fine as long as you seal it. I'm a bit confused on what to use
Very clear - would it not be good to let panels with glued canvas dry under pressure? Stack up a few of them, and load with some heavy weights?
Thank you💞💞💞💞💞