Never heard of rich before watching today,but am very impressed with his style and professional approach....Throw back to a more dignified time.... cheers from Australia...
The Masters will do what's best for the Masters. They politely asked Phil not to bring his "controversy" to their event. If this settles down before next April, it'll be fine, if not, Augusta may ask several other players politely to not bring their controversy to The Masters
It's not the players. It's the media asking the same questions every single time they see Phil, DJ and anyone else that plays the LIV Tour. The answer is stop talking to the woke media. Especially Shipnuck. The guy is a joke.
Why would the pga tour have lost to LIV already? LIV players play 54 holes of golf with no cut. And they have some weird team structure that no one cares about. It’s not even a test. They use the same equipment as the pga tour. But they are definitely not playing the same games.
They’ve lost in that the LIV tour is off the ground. They’re having events. The PGA has lost multiple top players, including the 2021 PGA champion, DJ the recently ranked #1 player in the world, along with several other major champions. The PGA has seen its reputation damaged, it’s players are taking sides and taking shots at one another. Sponsorships are being ended. The PGA and its commissioner are seeing their worst nightmare coming to fruition - a competing tour based primarily in the US, breaking up their monopoly. One that has an unlimited budget, and a grossroots movement of popular players joining. If you don’t think the PGA has lost something, you’re not paying attention.
@@klauscaptbsquad7044 I like a competition where there are clear winners and losers. If the person that comes in dead last collects over $100,000 and doesn’t miss a cut, it’s not really a competition. It’s more like a “showcase of golf”. And showcases of golf are fun, there’s no doubt about that. But it’s not professional competition golf IMHO
LIV has “won” because it got off the ground, and has time, money, and opportunity to get better and improve their product. They are also winning because the presentation and format is more appealing to the younger generation, which is the future of the sport.
Why would the PGA tour want to risk its charitable legacy, amongst many other things, in order to find a way to co-exist with a repressive regime with a horrendous human rights record throwing obscene amounts of money at largely competitively irrelevant and ageing players ??? Shipnuck missing a huge point about human decency here - have some principals man....
How is this any different then other sports organizations like: WWE, Premier League, and Formula 1 getting funding from Saudia Arabia? Why do we shame individuals for getting blood money, but think it's perfectly fine for multi billion dollar organizations to get blood money?
The USA is Saudi Arabias 2nd largest trading partner. I laugh when I hear people crying about "repressive regime with horrendous human rights record" one minute, the next minute they are driving around in their car filled with Saudi oil and complaining the price is too high. Clowns....
Moral of The story: the rich can buy anything, $$ is power, thousands of ppl worked to build the PGA and golf to where it is today. Almost overnight an entity with unlimited $$ can swoop in and buy everything they worked for. Greed really is root of all evil. I do agree with Alan, PGA is in trouble.
Money can buy most things. However, money can't buy major victories. The US Open just proved that this week. Furthermore, if it's all about money, then why did all of the eligible LIV players come play the US Open when it pays pennies compared to their contracts?
But you don't ask the questions fans want answered. For example have you asked Rory why it was ok for him to have accepted sponsor money from Jerimiah Group who has extensive holdings in the Middle East (including Saudi Arabia)? I guess the Saudi money was clean when he accepted it? How about the Tour's biggest single sponsor FedEx recently investing 1.5 Billion dollars into Saudi Arabia? Have you asked Jay Monahan about that?
Let the players decide with their consciences, the PGA is not perfect but the Saudi's Tour comes with moral choices. I back the PGA's position and hope that the LIV Tour turns into a money pit.
How is this any different from American businesses getting funding from Saudi Arabia? We never shame them, but when an individual gets money from them then they turn into Hitler?!?!
I am surprised to hear shipnuck say this. I am no fan of the pga tour but there is no good reason for any golf association to do business with LIV golf. They are run by the most destructive regime in the past 30 years. This is just wrong.
You are mad. They (us pga) STOLE all the decent European players from their Official Tour and now the Euro Tour is but an academy for the US. Really annoying that americans don't realise this !! they can do it to others but no one can do it to them. It is so bad that Euro Tour players don't even play in their own National Opens !! poster boy and quasi american McIlroy for one. The US PGA are acting in a spiteful , vindictive and dishonest way. BUT that's the american playbook not , but at home and abroad. Meme and stoke up hatred using dishonest propaganda against a rival. Nasty people.
The PGA organization needs reform, but partnering with the likes of LIV isn't the answer. Let LIV dump their billions until the get tired. I can't see ever watching a LIV event.
Until they sign a few more top guys.. classic bandwagon loudmouth. Just let it play out big guy, that way you don’t put your foot in your mouth too early
The PGA tour is a monopoly and supports China and Nike but against freedom of choice for golfers . Probably like many gives a pass to Saudi’s when President is begging for oil . Hypocrites
Does LIV start its own junior camp or try in future just to poach the best players from other tours? The top guys LIV have at the moment do not appear to be spring chickens.
"Forty years ago, it was considered by some a risky move for the guys who play professional golf to break away from the group created for golf professionals." This was about the PGA Tour splitting from The PGA of America in 1969. "The golf breakup occurred largely because of the influx of money that television had started to pump into the game. The top players (Jack Nicklaus and Arnold Palmer among them) wanted to use the additional TV money to pump up the purses." "The PGA of America wanted to put the money in the general fund. That's when the compromise was reached, with the golf professionals and the professional golfers going their separate ways." Sounds a bit like today... The PGA tour categorized itself as a non profit so it could avoid hundreds of millions in tax revenue. That decision is now haunting them since it also means they can't hand out guaranteed money contracts like other professional sports.The LIV tour is doing exactly that so it's not surprising top level golfers want guaranteed money. If someone loses their PGA tour card they're gone with very little support. I don't see how you can treat people as independent contractors and then complain when they go elsewhere.
The difference is where the money is coming from. The PGA tour was built by sponsorships and ticket sales. LIV is essentially funded by the Saudi Government.
The PGA isn't complaining they are leaving. They are just saying if you leave it would not be right for the players that stay to welcome you back. Much like in the business world, when someone leaves a company after 15 years for 200 million, I don't think the company would welcome them back next week. For some reason, LIV thinks they should have it both ways.
lol… he was being interviewed for a book. Nothing was off the record. Phil’s just not smart enough to keep his mouth shut. Now he’s got goons threatening the press. Almost sounds like he’s being coached personally by MSB.
@@fischmi2 That aside, I enjoyed the LIV golf tourney. Fast paced, showing lots of great shots, regardless of total score. The LIV cameras were more in their face than the PGA and I like how the players accepted it as part of the show rather than get upset.
Can we talk about how the PGA Tour made it easier for European Tour players to join? The PGA Tour bankrupted the Euro Tour by stealing their best players. Why does Rory, Rahm and Rose play in the USA? MONEY!!! Not to mention all the spots they take up from young American players looking for a shot. The PGA Tour gets what they deserve.
It also raises the 'Murica centric side of this issue, why would anyone care about the US PGA tour who doesn't live there? No one outside of the US ever gets to see these great fields, they have 3 of the worlds 4 Majors, to themselves, if they expect any International Golf Fans sympathy, their wasting their time.
you forgot to metion the origin of that money. It is perfectly ok when PGA does it because it is not an oppressive government that dissolves people in acid you immoral no principle %@££#.
They’re already several billion in the hole and growing by the day. To be honest I don’t think they care . Probably willing to lose $ until the camels disappear.
Yeah, and the PGA is so invested in Communist China they’ll keep taking the hundreds of millions of dollars out of that country to pad their executives pockets. Jay Monahan is the Commissioner of the PGA tour which is a charity and pays no taxes. Yet he takes a $10,000,000 annual salary. The hypocrisy of the PGA tour is sickening. They’re scared of losing their corporate sponsors as more players move to the LIV tour. Their desperation is clearly evident.
It doesn’t matter as the 4 majors are the only events that people care about anymore. Even the Ryder Cup lost its luster. Tiger changed Golf and really made the 4 Majors that only events that matter. Does anyone remember who won Pebble Beach this year? The Memorial Tournament? Can anyone name who won the FedEx Cup last year?
Patrick Cantlay beat John Rahm in last year’s FedEx Cup. I watch almost every weekend but will never watch a minute of LIV. The only decent players are assholes.
@@fischmi2 And will anyone care who won the 2021 FedEx Cup like they do the Masters Champion every year? That’s sort of my point that nobody talks about how many Tournaments Nicklaus and Tiger won, they compare Nicklaus 18 Majors to Tiger’s 15 Majors.
Regardless of Phil's complexities, Alan Shipnuck is a tool. He knew there was no way in hell Phil wanted him to put Phil's comments in the public forum. He uses "Phil didn't say off the record" to put comments out there that he knew would not only crush Phil publicly, but could have resulted in dangerous backlash from the Saudis. I wouldn't read his book for free.
LIV is a nice little pre-retirement, old geezer exhibition. I don't blame anyone for taking big money, but let's face it, it's a cute, goofy little traveling show. If the PGA, R & A and Masters are able to eliminate LIV golfers from their shows, then they will each disappear with their big savings accounts, in all likelihood...
Interesting comment there, this journalist is concerned about reporters essentially being screened or censored from asking certain questions, when this is common practice in other arenas
“Setting aside all the geopolitical questions.” Haha. Yeah, Alan. If you set aside all the human rights violations, the well-publicized murder of a journalist and activist, and the fact that they funded the 9-11 hijackers and the families of the victims of 9-11 are speaking out against the tour and it’s backers… sure, Greg Norman should be really proud!”
@@30adamh The difference is that if you work for any of those companies, the Saudis aren’t cutting your checks because they’re not the primary financial backers of those companies. The defecting golfers are accepting Saudi blood money. It’s not the same. The families of the 9-11 victims seem to make that distinction just fine.
@@AustinSportsGuy The Saudi's arent writing their checks LIV LLC is. You just said that was ok. 911 families need to ask their govt why we just sold the Saudi's 600 million in arms or why their Govt. didnt go after the SAudi's for 911. Worrying about guys hitting a little white ball around isnt going to change their conspiracy theory.
@@30adamh Dont forget the PGA Tours biggest sponsor, FEDEX, who just invented Billions last year in the Saudi's. Or the tour themselves who get a kick back from the Euro Tour ran tournament in Saudi Arabia
@@kev3177558848 Oh my God, this is the most dense and hypocritical argument I've heard. Either this is a Saudi bot or you're being paid by the Saudis to defend them in TH-cam comments.
Hullooo!?!? Mohd bin Salman owns large parts of Disney, Facebook, Starbucks and y’all are going to go after lil ol Phil Mickelson who always signs autographs for little boys after his rounds ? Cowards!
I think the Jay and the Tour probably made a huge mistake and likely cut of their noses to spite their faces here. If they simply allowed the other tour to exist in parallel, it may not have evolved into anything more than just a few exhibitions a year. But if the best players begin to leave, and are permanently suspended from the PGA, the LIV tour will begin to grow exponentially to eventually become a competitive tour. The money is just too great for now, and if a majority of the best leave, the rest will follow - leaving the PGA as a minor league or even defunct entity.
No such thing as parallel peaceful coexistence in this situation. Golf has a HUGE history that is greater than money. The LIV thing is a long time dream come true of Greg Norman who has a history of failing to rise to the stature he believes himself to be. He wants to be BOSS, the COO, the CEO, the CIO, the CFO, the SHARK controlling the waters in which the guppies have to swim. For decades, as a player who has failed to win a US based major and then as a wannabe 'important guy' he has not made the grade in the US. He has, over the years, even complained of having been shunned as a would be mentor, that he's offered his wisdom but nobody has come to hear him out. He has claimed that Tiger has never paid him any sort of homage. So now, he wants revenge. In essence, the Shark has been, or so he feels, treated like a guppy. And now he feels it's his turn to finally call the shots. Greg is trying to recreate his self directed, Saudi backed, 2022 version of "Jaws".
It’s called consciousness of guilt Mickleson, Norman, and anyone else who sign up for this tour know that the money that they will be paid is soaked in blood and don’t seem to like having this pointed out.
This is not just your favorite player leaving in free agency for more money. This matters. I'm a casual fan, and I won't watch a minute of the LIV tour, FWIW.
No problem. Keep watching the Chinese communist tour also known as the PGA tour. Enjoy their tournament that they play in Shanghai. While doing so think about the genocide of the Uyghurs. 🙄. Your selective outrage is so hypocritical.
If the PGA tour wasn't so full of ...itself & determined to monopolize pro golf - it would see this as an opportunity to get creative & improve the tour ! In ways its yet to even consider ! There is plenty of room in this big world for several pro golf tours -And also the Game of Golf will grow in several ways with or without the pga tour...imho
Is This is a joke? Reporters don't want to be a part of the story please. That's the whole motive for this guy. This person lives in the world of rumors gossip slander etc. he doesn't give a rip about the game of golf or anybody that gets in the way of his story. Rory McIlroy is another major hypocrite. He takes $180 million from Nike who uses Uighur slave labor to manufacture their products. China has about the worst human rights record of any country in the world. Nike is completely in bed with them. Other players go to play the LVI and get paid royally for it. And Rory has some type of morality play. Like offer me none for the. This is Rich!.
This guys crying that someones life he made difficult because of his reporting is now making his life difficult. Reporters are the worst... fun fact... reporters NEVER ask the real questions we want answers to
Tough to turn down millions without doing anything to earn it other than your famous name. No different then taking $$$ from a sponsor and the penalty is that your gone from the PGA tour. You retired, so what. And the LIV is your piggy bank.That's life today. Golf is no different. 🎉
Never heard of rich before watching today,but am very impressed with his style and professional approach....Throw back to a more dignified time.... cheers from Australia...
The Masters will do what's best for the Masters. They politely asked Phil not to bring his "controversy" to their event. If this settles down before next April, it'll be fine, if not, Augusta may ask several other players politely to not bring their controversy to The Masters
It's not the players. It's the media asking the same questions every single time they see Phil, DJ and anyone else that plays the LIV Tour. The answer is stop talking to the woke media. Especially Shipnuck. The guy is a joke.
Getting kicked out of the Masters is the biggest weapon the USGA and the PGA has against LIV.🎉
@@cueball7428 Not really. Not by a long shot. You lose all your big name players, and the Masters is just another no-frills tourney. GL with that!
Why would the pga tour have lost to LIV already? LIV players play 54 holes of golf with no cut. And they have some weird team structure that no one cares about. It’s not even a test. They use the same equipment as the pga tour. But they are definitely not playing the same games.
They’ve lost in that the LIV tour is off the ground. They’re having events. The PGA has lost multiple top players, including the 2021 PGA champion, DJ the recently ranked #1 player in the world, along with several other major champions. The PGA has seen its reputation damaged, it’s players are taking sides and taking shots at one another. Sponsorships are being ended.
The PGA and its commissioner are seeing their worst nightmare coming to fruition - a competing tour based primarily in the US, breaking up their monopoly. One that has an unlimited budget, and a grossroots movement of popular players joining. If you don’t think the PGA has lost something, you’re not paying attention.
@@klauscaptbsquad7044 I like a competition where there are clear winners and losers. If the person that comes in dead last collects over $100,000 and doesn’t miss a cut, it’s not really a competition. It’s more like a “showcase of golf”. And showcases of golf are fun, there’s no doubt about that. But it’s not professional competition golf IMHO
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@@Kaymeron There's no relegation in the NFL or NBA or MLS but we can safely say that the NFL is damn competitive.
LIV has “won” because it got off the ground, and has time, money, and opportunity to get better and improve their product. They are also winning because the presentation and format is more appealing to the younger generation, which is the future of the sport.
Is anyone expecting the "Saudi Tour" to respect journalists and reporters ?
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Why would the PGA tour want to risk its charitable legacy, amongst many other things, in order to find a way to co-exist with a repressive regime with a horrendous human rights record throwing obscene amounts of money at largely competitively irrelevant and ageing players ??? Shipnuck missing a huge point about human decency here - have some principals man....
PGA and you in full support of China and Nike . Notice our govt leader begging Saudi’s for oil ? Hypocrite much ?
How is this any different then other sports organizations like: WWE, Premier League, and Formula 1 getting funding from Saudia Arabia? Why do we shame individuals for getting blood money, but think it's perfectly fine for multi billion dollar organizations to get blood money?
that same Saudi money is already in the pga, CBS and NBC sports
Who has killed more innocent people the last 20 years? The USA or Saudi Arabia?
The USA is Saudi Arabias 2nd largest trading partner. I laugh when I hear people crying about "repressive regime with horrendous human rights record" one minute, the next minute they are driving around in their car filled with Saudi oil and complaining the price is too high. Clowns....
isn't Phil's action fitting to the Saudi backed LIV tour? They control the press and shape the narrative in everything they control.
Moral of The story: the rich can buy anything, $$ is power, thousands of ppl worked to build the PGA and golf to where it is today. Almost overnight an entity with unlimited $$ can swoop in and buy everything they worked for. Greed really is root of all evil. I do agree with Alan, PGA is in trouble.
There’s hypocrisy all around. It’s always about the money
whether it be golf or street cleaning. “ How much can I get ? “
Money can buy most things. However, money can't buy major victories. The US Open just proved that this week.
Furthermore, if it's all about money, then why did all of the eligible LIV players come play the US Open when it pays pennies compared to their contracts?
Jay Monahan will end up resigning over this mess. He has handled it very poorly so far. LIV is not going anywhere.
They won't be the best players in the world when they don't have to compete for a check.
LIV tour will die
@@mikebyrne9739 Brooks just defected.
But you don't ask the questions fans want answered. For example have you asked Rory why it was ok for him to have accepted sponsor money from Jerimiah Group who has extensive holdings in the Middle East (including Saudi Arabia)? I guess the Saudi money was clean when he accepted it? How about the Tour's biggest single sponsor FedEx recently investing 1.5 Billion dollars into Saudi Arabia? Have you asked Jay Monahan about that?
Saudi Troll alert!😅
@@ForsakenWar Just calling out a shill when I see one.
All these whiny weasels are making me want to watch LIV forever. Let's go, Greg and Phil!
you can have it - its like watching a member guest I wont miss one minute of any of those players
Let the players decide with their consciences, the PGA is not perfect but the Saudi's Tour comes with moral choices. I back the PGA's position and hope that the LIV Tour turns into a money pit.
How is this any different from American businesses getting funding from Saudi Arabia? We never shame them, but when an individual gets money from them then they turn into Hitler?!?!
I am surprised to hear shipnuck say this. I am no fan of the pga tour but there is no good reason for any golf association to do business with LIV golf. They are run by the most destructive regime in the past 30 years. This is just wrong.
You are mad. They (us pga) STOLE all the decent European players from their Official Tour and now the Euro Tour is but an academy for the US. Really annoying that americans don't realise this !! they can do it to others but no one can do it to them. It is so bad that Euro Tour players don't even play in their own National Opens !! poster boy and quasi american McIlroy for one. The US PGA are acting in a spiteful , vindictive and dishonest way. BUT that's the american playbook not , but at home and abroad. Meme and stoke up hatred using dishonest propaganda against a rival. Nasty people.
The PGA organization needs reform, but partnering with the likes of LIV isn't the answer. Let LIV dump their billions until the get tired. I can't see ever watching a LIV event.
Until they sign a few more top guys.. classic bandwagon loudmouth. Just let it play out big guy, that way you don’t put your foot in your mouth too early
Could someone share this with Brandel?
The PGA tour is a monopoly and supports China and Nike but against freedom of choice for golfers . Probably like many gives a pass to Saudi’s when President is begging for oil . Hypocrites
Oh, they're obligated to let players make their own rules? I should join.
Have you been complaining about the NFL,NBA and MLB being monopolies?
Does LIV start its own junior camp or try in future just to poach the best players from other tours? The top guys LIV have at the moment do not appear to be spring chickens.
Alan plays a better victim than amber heard.
Guy is a pure weasel.
Not a fan. I’m not a Phil fan but this guy was an unknown and I am a life long golf fan. Now he’s a self righteous self important writer.
Wow Alan, pretty insightful. The PGA should be listening… and paying you consultant fees, of course.
Damn Alan, just be pragmatic and tell it like it is. You are right. That's what I'm thinking.
"Forty years ago, it was considered by some a risky move for the guys who play professional golf to break away from the group created for golf professionals." This was about the PGA Tour splitting from The PGA of America in 1969.
"The golf breakup occurred largely because of the influx of money that television had started to pump into the game. The top players (Jack Nicklaus and Arnold Palmer among them) wanted to use the additional TV money to pump up the purses."
"The PGA of America wanted to put the money in the general fund. That's when the compromise was reached, with the golf professionals and the professional golfers going their separate ways."
Sounds a bit like today...
The PGA tour categorized itself as a non profit so it could avoid hundreds of millions in tax revenue. That decision is now haunting them since it also means they can't hand out guaranteed money contracts like other professional sports.The LIV tour is doing exactly that so it's not surprising top level golfers want guaranteed money. If someone loses their PGA tour card they're gone with very little support. I don't see how you can treat people as independent contractors and then complain when they go elsewhere.
The difference is where the money is coming from. The PGA tour was built by sponsorships and ticket sales. LIV is essentially funded by the Saudi Government.
@@IIJonnyBoyII So. The PGA Tour has been doing business with China for years. Half of the PGA Tours sponsors do business in Saudi Arabia.
@@giii7599 Exactly!!!
@@IIJonnyBoyII Saudi Arabia or China, which is worse?
The PGA isn't complaining they are leaving. They are just saying if you leave it would not be right for the players that stay to welcome you back. Much like in the business world, when someone leaves a company after 15 years for 200 million, I don't think the company would welcome them back next week. For some reason, LIV thinks they should have it both ways.
best part starts around 8:30, where he points out the hypocrisy of the pga tour, lol
...which Rich has avoided copping to since this all started. Rich's fantasyland world of Oz is crumbling right before his deluded eyes.
Wasn't Shipnuck the guy who reported Phil's off the record comments?
lol… he was being interviewed for a book. Nothing was off the record. Phil’s just not smart enough to keep his mouth shut. Now he’s got goons threatening the press. Almost sounds like he’s being coached personally by MSB.
Yes, clearly the man been looking for trouble
@@cag19549 Yep.
@@fischmi2 That aside, I enjoyed the LIV golf tourney. Fast paced, showing lots of great shots, regardless of total score. The LIV cameras were more in their face than the PGA and I like how the players accepted it as part of the show rather than get upset.
Rumors are several players are going to announce right after the US Open. But my guess it will be after all the majors are done.
PGA does not control the majors.
You were right. Brooks Koepka today and rumors are others will announce shortly.
@@thomasjoseph3488 There will be more when the regular season ends.
And if the Masters denies these guys in the future, will the other Majors follow?
That’s not happening
Can we talk about how the PGA Tour made it easier for European Tour players to join? The PGA Tour bankrupted the Euro Tour by stealing their best players. Why does Rory, Rahm and Rose play in the USA? MONEY!!! Not to mention all the spots they take up from young American players looking for a shot. The PGA Tour gets what they deserve.
Well Rahm and Rose played golf in US college, so it was natural for them to stay there and Rory plays ET..
It also raises the 'Murica centric side of this issue, why would anyone care about the US PGA tour who doesn't live there?
No one outside of the US ever gets to see these great fields, they have 3 of the worlds 4 Majors, to themselves, if they expect any International Golf Fans sympathy, their wasting their time.
you forgot to metion the origin of that money. It is perfectly ok when PGA does it because it is not an oppressive government that dissolves people in acid you immoral no principle %@££#.
No one cares about the euro tour bro
@@gibson3lespaul A lot of Europes best players played college golf in the U.S. but went home to play their tour. Colin Montgomery comes to mind.
I agree 100% that the Tour was already in trouble before LIV, and Phil actually thought he could leverage them. Let’s see how it turns out.
LIV will last 5 years max. The Saudi’s will eventually get tired of pouring billions into a venture that has no chance of breaking even.
Biden's going over to beg for more oil......that'll give them an additional 5 years!
They’re already several billion in the hole and growing by the day. To be honest I don’t think they care . Probably willing to lose $ until the camels disappear.
Yeah, and the PGA is so invested in Communist China they’ll keep taking the hundreds of millions of dollars out of that country to pad their executives pockets. Jay Monahan is the Commissioner of the PGA tour which is a charity and pays no taxes. Yet he takes a $10,000,000 annual salary. The hypocrisy of the PGA tour is sickening. They’re scared of losing their corporate sponsors as more players move to the LIV tour. Their desperation is clearly evident.
It isn’t about breaking even. It’s about PR for their country. That’s why it’s not possible to compete with them if the PGA just let players go over.
The investment fund has around 600 billion dollars. Trust me, they’re not running out of money lol
LIV golf is a symptom, not the source.
It doesn’t matter as the 4 majors are the only events that people care about anymore. Even the Ryder Cup lost its luster. Tiger changed Golf and really made the 4 Majors that only events that matter. Does anyone remember who won Pebble Beach this year? The Memorial Tournament? Can anyone name who won the FedEx Cup last year?
Patrick Cantlay beat John Rahm in last year’s FedEx Cup. I watch almost every weekend but will never watch a minute of LIV. The only decent players are assholes.
@@fischmi2 And will anyone care who won the 2021 FedEx Cup like they do the Masters Champion every year? That’s sort of my point that nobody talks about how many Tournaments Nicklaus and Tiger won, they compare Nicklaus 18 Majors to Tiger’s 15 Majors.
@@chrisolivo6591 The Fedex cup has never been much of anything.
Its always been about the majors...who cares about the Fedex rubbish
Regardless of Phil's complexities, Alan Shipnuck is a tool. He knew there was no way in hell Phil wanted him to put Phil's comments in the public forum. He uses "Phil didn't say off the record" to put comments out there that he knew would not only crush Phil publicly, but could have resulted in dangerous backlash from the Saudis. I wouldn't read his book for free.
The PGA has to figure out what's best for itself and right now it's going to be pride that prevents that.
We do that with our politicians and our American press. NO real questions, or even better; the follow-up question.
The fans are never forgiving... lol. They'll hammer Phil and they'll support Phill. Heck there may be a fight or two.
People don't care. You really think people are going to fight over this?
@@anthonycalabrese21 they fight over baseball.
No. I don't think they really care. The media is sensationalizing this, I just thought I would too.
@@nbt3663 if there was a fight between golfers that would be pretty entertaining lol
@@anthonycalabrese21 OMg can you imagine. K and D going at it. I'm not a mma fan, but I would def pay to see that. I think Keopka takes him in two!
LIV is a nice little pre-retirement, old geezer exhibition. I don't blame anyone for taking big money, but let's face it, it's a cute, goofy little traveling show. If the PGA, R & A and Masters are able to eliminate LIV golfers from their shows, then they will each disappear with their big savings accounts, in all likelihood...
Think you will miss this prognostication very badly.
Obviously Eisen is totally owned by the tour mafia..
Stick to the NFL, Rich. You are out of your league discussing this controversy.
Like many journalists, eager to write a story and/or book, but everything he has reported has been true.
We have a President who only receives approved questions!
as opposed to a president who does no news conferences.
@@Gnofg Yes, that was Obama. He was so unwilling to speak to the press even the very left NYT had to call him out.
Greg Norman is a coward.
world class low-life
Interesting comment there, this journalist is concerned about reporters essentially being screened or censored from asking certain questions, when this is common practice in other arenas
Jay Monahan...please listen to Alan Shipnuck's advice or you will be out of a job soon. "Strategic Alliance" is the way to go...not banning players.
“Setting aside all the geopolitical questions.”
Haha. Yeah, Alan. If you set aside all the human rights violations, the well-publicized murder of a journalist and activist, and the fact that they funded the 9-11 hijackers and the families of the victims of 9-11 are speaking out against the tour and it’s backers… sure, Greg Norman should be really proud!”
that same Saudi money is in you tube, twitter, Disney, NBC that carries the pga, CBS sports, Apple, and the parent company of cnn
@@30adamh The difference is that if you work for any of those companies, the Saudis aren’t cutting your checks because they’re not the primary financial backers of those companies. The defecting golfers are accepting Saudi blood money. It’s not the same. The families of the 9-11 victims seem to make that distinction just fine.
@@AustinSportsGuy The Saudi's arent writing their checks LIV LLC is. You just said that was ok. 911 families need to ask their govt why we just sold the Saudi's 600 million in arms or why their Govt. didnt go after the SAudi's for 911. Worrying about guys hitting a little white ball around isnt going to change their conspiracy theory.
@@30adamh Dont forget the PGA Tours biggest sponsor, FEDEX, who just invented Billions last year in the Saudi's. Or the tour themselves who get a kick back from the Euro Tour ran tournament in Saudi Arabia
@@kev3177558848 Oh my God, this is the most dense and hypocritical argument I've heard. Either this is a Saudi bot or you're being paid by the Saudis to defend them in TH-cam comments.
Hullooo!?!? Mohd bin Salman owns large parts of Disney, Facebook, Starbucks and y’all are going to go after lil ol Phil Mickelson who always signs autographs for little boys after his rounds ? Cowards!
I think the Jay and the Tour probably made a huge mistake and likely cut of their noses to spite their faces here. If they simply allowed the other tour to exist in parallel, it may not have evolved into anything more than just a few exhibitions a year. But if the best players begin to leave, and are permanently suspended from the PGA, the LIV tour will begin to grow exponentially to eventually become a competitive tour. The money is just too great for now, and if a majority of the best leave, the rest will follow - leaving the PGA as a minor league or even defunct entity.
Nailed it! Pga tour made it an us or them situation. Now players are choosing them.
No such thing as parallel peaceful coexistence in this situation. Golf has a HUGE history that is greater than money. The LIV thing is a long time dream come true of Greg Norman who has a history of failing to rise to the stature he believes himself to be. He wants to be BOSS, the COO, the CEO, the CIO, the CFO, the SHARK controlling the waters in which the guppies have to swim.
For decades, as a player who has failed to win a US based major and then as a wannabe 'important guy' he has not made the grade in the US. He has, over the years, even complained of having been shunned as a would be mentor, that he's offered his wisdom but nobody has come to hear him out. He has claimed that Tiger has never paid him any sort of homage. So now, he wants revenge. In essence, the Shark has been, or so he feels, treated like a guppy. And now he feels it's his turn to finally call the shots. Greg is trying to recreate his self directed, Saudi backed, 2022 version of "Jaws".
This guy literally bankrupt Phil and he's mad that no one wants him around. Wow. Lost all his sponsors. Screw Chipnut.
Lol! Well... to be fair... Phil losing 50 million gambling is kinda bankrupting yourself👍😅
probably one of the singly stupidest comments of all time - should go into the hall of fame
LIV tour is not succeeding, it is boring with has beens
If it’s so boring and going to fail the how come everybody is freaking out over it
It’s called consciousness of guilt Mickleson, Norman, and anyone else who sign up for this tour know that the money that they will be paid is soaked in blood and don’t seem to like having this pointed out.
Journalists will probably end up missing at some point. You don’t cross these guys . They play by their rules.
Like Julian Assange by CIA?
Which is maybe why Alan is kissing their arses now.
@@alexair7936 did they dispose of him once and for all ? I thought he was still alive - well great if they did = shout out to CIA
Sometimes you DO have the moral high ground.
Who has it in this case?
I think this guy has an ax to grind
Great points, Alan Shitknock.
PHIL IS THE BEST!!!!!
This is not just your favorite player leaving in free agency for more money. This matters. I'm a casual fan, and I won't watch a minute of the LIV tour, FWIW.
No problem. Keep watching the Chinese communist tour also known as the PGA tour. Enjoy their tournament that they play in Shanghai. While doing so think about the genocide of the Uyghurs. 🙄. Your selective outrage is so hypocritical.
Can’t really be a US citizen and be outraged at Saudi. We’re their second biggest trade partner. Not possible to cut ties with them.
They dont care.
How much money did you take from the Saudis, Alan? Suddenly you're in the tank for them? The PGA lost -- how, exactly?
exactly
Phil shoots 78 yesterday at the USGA event? He should go! We don’t want to watch his awful golf! Better start a savings account too!
Phil looks 1000000% miserable....the whole thing stinks and the Players know it.
Personally I hope he is and remains that way - money should not be the one and only thing and i hope it never is .
PGA bitter shills at work again
If the PGA tour wasn't so full of ...itself & determined to monopolize pro golf - it would see this as an opportunity to get creative & improve the tour ! In ways its yet to even consider ! There is plenty of room in this big world for several pro golf tours -And also the Game of Golf will grow in several ways with or without the pga tour...imho
Is there also room for another baseball and basketball league?
LivGolf the bearded wonder tour. 😁
5 - 10 events per year….LIV should be all outside USA, let the top guys play both tours if they chose. Stop the war between tours.
200 million dollars will change anyone's demeanor
Rich, where does the gas that you purchase for your car come from?
A great conversation…
NBA plays in China. Indy racing and horse racing involves Saudis. PGA is just scared. They need to raise money.
This guy tries harder to be the story than jim acosta…..
I see they are handling things as the Saudi's might...minus hand saws and swords...
No matter who called.
Approving of questions before hand - weird territory - oh, you mean like the White House?
If I were PGA Tour Chairman...I would not embrace Liv League...
Lets Go LIV!
Alan Shipnuck sounds like another media individual that wants to be the story, not report the story..............
Alan Shipnuck, are you an apologist?
Won’t watch anything from this goon, sold out Phil. You can do better Rich.
Sold him out by reporting the truth.
Alan Shipnuck teamed up with CNN to fake that whole video.
Is This is a joke? Reporters don't want to be a part of the story please. That's the whole motive for this guy. This person lives in the world of rumors gossip slander etc. he doesn't give a rip about the game of golf or anybody that gets in the way of his story. Rory McIlroy is another major hypocrite. He takes $180 million from Nike who uses Uighur slave labor to manufacture their products. China has about the worst human rights record of any country in the world. Nike is completely in bed with them. Other players go to play the LVI and get paid royally for it. And Rory has some type of morality play. Like offer me none for the. This is Rich!.
Alan is a snake soaking up all he can get out of this.Why would LIV want him around
I’m sure he was invited to these shows.
I never realized that Greg & Phil were such incredible a-holes
Both have been total assholes for a long time. Norman couldn't hide it and Phil faked everyone out.
That picture of Norman behind his goons is eerie and scary. Looks like a toothless loon. LIV golf in a snap.
This guy is the biggest 🐍 ‘journalist’ I’ve seen for a while in sports. This guy intentionally starts fires and then tries to plays the victim.
He's garbage, he went there to cause issues...
Monohan is taking it personally.
Yep. Exploits Phil to make a buck for himself. He's a regular Saudi Arabia.
This guys crying that someones life he made difficult because of his reporting is now making his life difficult. Reporters are the worst... fun fact... reporters NEVER ask the real questions we want answers to
These Jewish commentators want to destroy the last sport that is not purely finance capital though it is ostensibly Tiger"s Jwish managers ruined him
Screw golf
I don't get the whole controversy behind the Saudi funded league. Sports transcend politics and bring people together. This is great for the game!
Very Saudi like 🤔
Luke 9:25
Mickelson 20th Hijacker
Tough to turn down millions without doing anything to earn it other than your famous name. No different then taking $$$ from a sponsor and the penalty is that your gone from the PGA tour. You retired, so what. And the LIV is your piggy bank.That's life today. Golf is no different. 🎉
Only this dude can write a book that no one asked him to do, only to be relative in golf world. smh. dude lost every marble he had.
Boycott LIV golf please.
no
Rich loves to instigate BS which is why I no longer watch NFL network. He’s more like the view
I’m sure Shipnuck is a good guy, but he sounds like a worm in every interview.