If Bill could have quit being Howard Stern for a moment or two we might have actually heard Leno's answers to his questions. I hate when interviewers won't stfu and let the guest talk.
Howard is one of the best interviewers I’ve ever heard. Interrupting it not what I observe rather he keeps the conversation going and keeps it interesting and fun.
@@cocteaumusic are you kidding? Stern constantly interrupts everyone, half the time because he doesn't even understand what they're saying, so he interrupts with some stupid comment. I will admit he gets answers out of some of them that others don't because he's not afraid to say anything, or to offend anyone.
@@cjbotts nope, listen to him regularly, he gets people on that other people don't get, and like I said, he sometimes gets them to say things they wouldn't normally say, but half the time you can't hear all the answers because he has to interrupt and start running his mouth.
@@safepethaven I think that's a bit harsh. Nothing wrong with those comedians making their money when it's available. They were simply taking advantage of their name power, which is exactly what they should be doing. It wasn't just the money that got Jay the job. He also was "likeable" to middle America in a way none of those other comedian guest hosts were. It's just timing.
So much can be learned from Jay on how he conducted business. He played the long game instead of trying to enrich himself as soon as possible and in the end, he won. I admire this man so much.
Because he didn’t have a manager and agent, he saved around 20-25% of his total income!! So that helps u negotiate cheaper than others, cause u already saving 25%, That’s why he just took the offers, instead of playing hardball with them & protesting asking for more etc !!! Makes him look reasonable and easy to work with !! It Builds good relationships, but little do they know he’s saving massive money not having his reps !! No manager or agent also means no sneaky cagey snake, slithering around trying to con u and get more of ya money, or stealing from u, or just being a negative person in ya life!! Most of those guys are absolute snakes!!! Preying on people who trust them!!!
i'm pretty sure this isn't supposed to be a formal interview with an interviewer and interviewee but more an informal, relaxed conversation between 2 friends. At least that's what it sounds like.
I miss Jay Leno. He was the last of the "fair" late night talk show hosts. Instead of spending the entire show ripping on Republicans, he actually tried to be fair and would make jokes about both sides. AND it was all in fun. He did it so that everyone could laugh at themselves. You could tell there wasn't the hate behind it that you see with all of the leftist late night TV hosts today.
That's because back in those days there wasn't as much separation between a Republican/Democrat. Those were the days when Republicans were civil and less criminal. It went from agree to disagree to all the sudden I can't do that anymore - something is literally wrong with your moral compass.
Conan's really funny and he's a good guy, too. But green-lighting *NBC's* proposal to retire Jay when he could've gone to *ABC* or *FOX* for a show of his own at an earlier hour was a terrible decision.
Helen Kushnick was Jay's manager, her ruthlessness got Jay Leno the Tonight Show. She planted stories in the LA Times to force Johnny Carson to retire. She ensured Letterman's friendship with Jay was destroyed by upsetting many of David's production team in New York. When Jay started hosting the Tonight Show in 1992, Helen turned into this awful, arrogant, ruthless and sadistic producer which annoyed NBC management, NBC owners GE and all in Hollywood when she used to block guests from being booked, or she would shout a massive abusive tirade to staff and guests. NBC told Jay to fire her in September 1992, if he didn't he would lose the Tonight Show job, so he fired her, NBC banned her from NBC Burbank forever and she turned her fire towards Jay until the day she died, including asking people to read a letter she wrote to be read at her funeral, which would a roast of Jay and totally offensive
My issue with Leno is that I never enjoyed him, or his TV show... and I wanted him gone and replaced with someone I did enjoy, namely Conan, and then Leno just wouldn't go away. And Conan was never given a chance to grow into his new time slot. Whatever Maher thinks of Leno, it'll never change that his brand of humor is way too bland and watered down for my taste, and I honestly just wanted him replaced by someone better.
From what I gather from the various interviews Jay has given over the past oh… decade or so, is that more or less, that whole debacle was more an issue with network execs & such, infighting over which host was to have which time-slot of which network, more than any of the actual hosts having much power or say in the matter… as if their souls were very much owned by them network ceo’s &/or exec pricks…. “DO AS WE COMMAND, not as we do”! Aside from that, yeah, I personally always felt that way back in the day, Jay would’ve been best suited for his style of standup comedy for his fan-fair &, the occasional movie acting role.. rather then as a permanent host of an evening comedy show. Either way tho, no one can dispute Jay’s intelligence as to how to be financially successful; quite the sharp tool!
When it comes down to it, what you think of Leno’s humor is completely irrelevant. He was consistently number 1, and when he came back he was still number 1 for 5 more years. That is how the business works. Conan got his shot and the ratings were subpar, at the end of the day, that’s all that matters.
I generally like Conan but he sucked at the Tonight Show. Craig could have ran with it with his unquiet brand of humor but Conan’s brand was to be neurotic which he also took to his TBS show. Perhaps it is the brand of TTS where old farts only watch some generic hosts but Conan changed to lame Jimmy Fallon comedian and it sucked ass. I remember that Jay’s show at 9 pm wasn’t that great either but I had grown out of the Jay and even the Daily Show phase once I watched the Colbert Report. The latter sold out in 2015 and has TDS for someone like me who doesn’t generally like Trump. I actually liked Letterman vs Jay in late night and still think that his show was much better than what the TLS has become after Colbert took it over.
Jay Leno always talks about being number one, yet NBC still fired him. The reason was because he got old and irrelevant. Leno stopped caring about guests and couldn't relate to the next generation. He basically became a corporate fuddy duddy. NBC wanted new, young blood to take the Tonight Show into the future. Unfortunately, they got Fallon.
The next generation is untalented and are poor guests--no charisma.They're not amusing,interesting or worth talking to.They're BORING.Why we have talk shows at all,anymore,is what amazes me.
@@ChrisOzar Conan in 2004 was hot, approaching the end of his contract and receiving major offers. He could've done a show at *ABC,* or at *FOX* (where they were offering him almost double what *NBC* wanted to pay him). But Conan accepted the *NBC* proposal that also meant forcibly retiring Jay. And Jay had supported Conan in many ways through the years (particularly during his early low-rated days as the fledgling host of "Late Night"). And let's remember that when things started going badly, *NBC* still wanted to keep Conan as host of "The Tonight Show." But he chose to resign and take the buy out package. If Conan had accepted one of those huge offers from *ABC* or *FOX,* he would've had his show with an earlier start time, wouldn't have had to wait 5 years to get it, Jay and his staff could've stayed on at "The Tonight Show," and the entire debacle would've been averted.
NBC told Leno in 2004 they'd give him another 5 year deal but when that ran out he wouldn't be kept on no matter what. So technically he wasn't fired, he was just given a very long period of notice. Pretty dumb move, Jay stayed no.1 comfortably and Conan's popularity dropped off. Not one person was to blame for debacle but no one covered themselves in glory either. It was such a weird set of events.
@@PauloTheGeek But I think Jay staying with NBC hurt Conans show, even if Jay didn't purposely plan that. By doing the show before Conan everyone started focusing on him and the controversy and it was a bad lead in for Conans show. They also didn't give Conan enough time to work out his show. It had some problems when they moved Conan from ny to la and when they hired back Andy Richter who is incredibly unlikeable. Every show Andy is on fails.
@@bluedot6933 If Conan had taken the offer from *ABC* or *FOX* instead of greenlighting *NBC's* weird plan, he would've had a network talk show, nobody would've had to give up their time slot, Conan wouldn't have had to wait 5 years to get it, Jay and his staff could've remained at "The Tonight Show," and the entire debacle would've been averted.
@@gallery7596 But Jay was 60 years old in 2010. So he probably would have done the show another 5 years. So Jay just caused himself a lot of problems for a few more years.
@@bluedot6933 Carson was 67 *and* he got to name his own retirement date. RE: "So Jay just caused himself a lot of problems for a few more years." There wouldn't have been any problems if Conan had said no *NBC's* proposal. All he needed to do was look at how they were treating Jay (the #1 guy in late-night who was making millions for them- and they thought they could predict when he'd no longer be valuable). And keeping Conan on a string for 5 years was basically how they kept Jay from leaving 18 years earlier. *"Stay with us, Jay and we guarantee you Johnny's seat."* But when he took over, they were ready to drop Jay and give the job to Dave in order to keep him from going to *CBS.* It's the same thing. But for some reason Conan thought *NBC* couldn't do to him what they'd done to both Jay and Dave. Terrible decision-making.
Helen Kushnick was Jay's manager, her ruthlessness got Jay Leno the Tonight Show. She planted stories in the LA Times to force Johnny Carson to retire. She ensured Letterman's friendship with Jay was destroyed by upsetting many of David's production team in New York. When Jay started hosting the Tonight Show in 1992, Helen turned into this awful, arrogant, ruthless and sadistic producer which annoyed NBC management, NBC owners GE and all in Hollywood when she used to block guests from being booked, or she would shout a massive abusive tirade to staff and guests. NBC told Jay to fire her in September 1992, if he didn't he would lose the Tonight Show job, so he fired her, NBC banned her from NBC Burbank forever and she turned her fire towards Jay until the day she died, including asking people to read a letter she wrote to be read at her funeral, which would a roast of Jay and totally offensive
He had the number 1 show and they were kicking him out! Lol, like the guy or not… he was getting fuct too. Always made out to be the bad guy, but really it was on NBC.
Weren’t the Nielsen reports about his show saying that his viewerbase was starting to plummet because they were dying? He was on for so long it’s not like a surprise.
Jay beat Dave for over a decade before *NBC* pulled him in favour of Conan. And when Jay returned after Conan's resignation, he was soon #1 again and attracted the most 18 - 49 year olds to the end of his run in 2014.
Why don’t they mention that when it mattered most, Jay did have the snake whispering in their ear…in the form of Helen Kushnick, who outmaneuvered Letterman to get Jay the tonight show to begin with.
Letterman was never going to get the Tonight Show anyway. That's well documented. Letterman and the NBC executives hated each other, and he would regularly mock them on his show.
Yeah, because the ratings of a guy put in front of an audience who didn't get his schtick, nor was given the time to adapt them to it, is a solid indication of the fanbase. A fan-base which has kept Conan's career alive for another decade on cable of all things.
Maybe he could, but I think Jay knows that going out while you're still hot beats hanging on when it's obvious you're passed your prime (much like Johnny and Dave did).
Maher is right on this point about age, you can be 90, and still be very cool and very intuitive, when I was 20, my friends wanted my grandfather around, because he was so funny and interesting
Sabotaging co workers could be considered outsmarting someone. In the same way lying, conniving, and manipulating is considered outsmarting people. Its really just lower ethics, but nobody cares about that anymore. Lie cheat and steal. Thats the way!
I know this is an unpopular opinion but I actually think Jay Leno was kind of screwed over in the whole process too. The one thing he could have done is made the integral choice to not take the Tonight Show back. He should have known that would have backfired. But they went to him 4 years before they even did the switch and told him that they were going to put Conan in his spot for years from then and they did. I do think so Conan O'Brien would still be the host of The Tonight Show if Jay Leno would have just bowed out and went away. So he's not completely innocent in the matter but it is possible that it shouldn't have happened in the first place. There's a good chance he would still be the host of The Tonight Show if they didn't want to try to hold on to Conan O'Brien so badly. But we will never know. I'm glad Conan O'Brien is doing well because he is my favorite out of any talk show host before or since. But I also watch The Tonight Show with Jay Leno and I have fond memories of that show too
From the moment Conan signed his deal to acquire "The Tonight Show" Jay was getting screwed. RE: "The one thing he could have done is made the integral choice to not take the Tonight Show back." But he had to give up "The Tonight Show" because of a decision Conan and the network made, so why should Jay turn down a chance to return? And he had his staff to consider, too. RE: "He should have known that would have backfired." He got to host for 4 more years and went out #1. How did it backfire? RE: "I do think so Conan O'Brien would still be the host of The Tonight Show if Jay Leno would have just bowed out." I think Conan's the one who should've moved on. In 2004 Conan's contract was about to expire, and he could've had a show at *ABC,* and *FOX* wanted to pay Conan almost double what *NBC* was offering him to wait 5 years for "The Tonight Show." If Conan had accepted one of those offers, he could've had a show with an earlier start time, Jay and his staff could've remained at "The Tonight Show," and the whole debacle would've been averted. [edit] Can't see the reply. It's been filtered by TH-cam.
@@gallery7596 you know that's messed up. I spent a long time as a hater of Jay Leno because of the Tonight Show debacle until the last couple years so I started to see it as less of something Jay Leno did and more something NBC did. But I never really looked at it as Conan should have never taken Tonight Show in the first place. That's kind of a thought that's blowing my mind right now and making me think you making me think MF. I'm sure nobody predicted what happened but yeah if they never tried to keep Conan or ig Conan would have decided to move on Jay Leno would still be the host of The Tonight Show. I was a big fan of Jay leno. The Jay Leno Conan O'Brien team up to me it'll never be the same. I kind of like Jimmy Fallon I kind of like Seth Meyers I kind of like the other guys kind of lol. Appreciate you giving me some food for thought it's crazy I've never really thought of this whole situation from that specific angle. Now I'm going to take a walk while some introspective music plays while I think...
@@cameronrobinson3933 Conan's a good guy. A talented comedy writer & fine talk show host, too. He just didn't think it through when *NBC* was dangling that show in front of him. If *NBC* could screw Dave, and screw Jay, then there was no reason to believe they couldn't turn around and do the same thing to him. But it's a long time ago and everybody still came out rich, so that's good.
Helen Kushnick was Jay's manager, her ruthlessness got Jay Leno the Tonight Show. She planted stories in the LA Times to force Johnny Carson to retire. She ensured Letterman's friendship with Jay was destroyed by upsetting many of David's production team in New York. When Jay started hosting the Tonight Show in 1992, Helen turned into this awful, arrogant, ruthless and sadistic producer which annoyed NBC management, NBC owners GE and all in Hollywood when she used to block guests from being booked, or she would shout a massive abusive tirade to staff and guests. NBC told Jay to fire her in September 1992, if he didn't he would lose the Tonight Show job, so he fired her, NBC banned her from NBC Burbank forever and she turned her fire towards Jay until the day she died, including asking people to read a letter she wrote to be read at her funeral, which would a roast of Jay and totally offensive.
Helen paid for her machinations, but it sure was tragic because it didn't have to be that way. They had a written guarantee that Jay would inherit "The Tonight Show" when Johnny left and she was going to be the producer. But Helen had to ruin everything by planting those stories alleging the network wanted Carson out. And when Jay asked her if she was behind it, she lied to his face and told him she wasn't. The revelation put Jay in a tough position because he and Helen had been longtime friends, it ruined Jay's relationship with Johnny, and it turned off some viewers because they continued to suspect Jay (who revered Johnny) was in on Helen's scheme. Regarding Kushnick writing a letter to be read at her funeral roasting Jay: to go out like that pretty much confirms that she was a disturbed personality. So sad for everybody involved.
I never had that much regard for Jay Leno. I'm racking my brains for an iconic joke or interview and not coming up with anything memorable. But it could be a circular argument. since I might have missed it because I didn't like him enough to watch him in the first place.
Well that's just it. Jay was number 1 because he produced the most middle of the road, by the books content one could possibly muster. It meant that his comedy was accessible to everyone, but loved by nobody.
Rich guys talking about how 500 bucks to work for an hour is chump change and how they later got 50,000 for it which was probably also chump change. Have fun!!
Conan’s ratings were higher than Leno’s. Bottom line, Leno was old, outdated and not funny anymore. This ATV attitude is unbecoming. He should have stepped down gracefully. He fought the Fallon decision hard also.
RE: "Conan’s ratings were higher than Leno’s." Jay went out #1. After Conan took over, however, within a week "The Tonight Show" was falling behind *CBS.* And that trend continued all summer, too. But when Jay returned, in a few months "TTS" was #1 again. RE: "He should have stepped down gracefully." He did. Jay could've complained like Letterman, but it wasn't going to change the network's decision. So (as per their request) he wished Conan well and stepped down on May 30th, 2009. RE: "He fought the Fallon decision hard also." When it was announced that Jay was being let go again, he and Jimmy Fallon did a funny song parody together. Why would Jay have done that if he was fighting the decision?
@@Steven_Edwards Dave didn't get picked (first) to replace Carson- which was in large part because he was asking too much money, control of the late night schedule, and he didn't maintain a cordial relationship with the network. Then *NBC* switched horses and offered Dave "The Tonight Show" . . . and he turned it down. Conan, on the other hand, could've had a show at *ABC,* or at *FOX* where they were offering him way more money than *NBC* was. But he chose to take *NBC's* 5 year proposal that would forcibly retire Jay so he could have "The Tonight Show," and it blew up in everybody's face. Dave and Conan did it to themselves.
@@gallery7596 Recent Disney show Tommy and Pam focused on one of his interviews with Anderson, I looked it up thinking it couldn't be that bad, it was worse. I remember a super model in a diamond bikini top getting really weird. I mean this clip says it all, he feels a 60 year old interviewer wth a 20 year old model looks off, it only looks bad if the 60 year old is a perv.
Re: "Recent Disney [drama] show ''Pam'' & Tommy" focused on one of his interviews with Anderson": Okay, this is what was said about it: "The exact interview shown in ''Pam & Tommy'' never happened in real life; instead, it was a combination of a few interviews. The dress and makeup that the Anderson character flaunts in ''Pam & Tommy'' episode 1 point to a specific interview Pamela Anderson did with Jay Leno in 1996 (via TH-cam) when she was expecting her first child with Tommy Lee." I've seen it. It's 2 minutes and 40 seconds and it's harmless. "However, in another real-life appearance by Anderson on "The Tonight Show," Anderson aired her grievances at Leno for several jokes he had made about them in his monologues." So, in real life it appears that Jay wasn't saying anything creepy about Pam to her face. It was jokes he'd told about that sex tape in his monologues- and we know he wasn't the only talk show host telling such jokes at that time. Now can you tell us this 20 year old model's name, please?
@@gallery7596 Heidi Klum, but again Jay Leno sees something wrong with an older host interviewing some young model, not me. But the joy he took in those Anderson jokes and Lewinski jokes, don't remember as many Clinton and Tommy Lee jokes.
RE: "Heidi Klum" Thank you. th-cam.com/video/ufhu-9Mz7ys/w-d-xo.html Looks like it was her idea. RE: "...don't remember as many Clinton [---] jokes." Bill Clinton? Jay told so many Monica jokes Clinton refused to come on "The Tonight Show" even after he was out of office.
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Loving Leno and Conan is like loving your divorced parents.
Excellent comment.
JAY: "I remember one time when I was on stage..." BILL: (Immediately interrupts).
I hate bill mahars guts...mostly.
If Bill could have quit being Howard Stern for a moment or two we might have actually heard Leno's answers to his questions. I hate when interviewers won't stfu and let the guest talk.
Howard is one of the best interviewers I’ve ever heard. Interrupting it not what I observe rather he keeps the conversation going and keeps it interesting and fun.
@@cocteaumusic are you kidding? Stern constantly interrupts everyone, half the time because he doesn't even understand what they're saying, so he interrupts with some stupid comment. I will admit he gets answers out of some of them that others don't because he's not afraid to say anything, or to offend anyone.
@@user-vg3yc6gk5f uh, did you stop listening to Stern in 1993 or something?
@@cjbotts nope, listen to him regularly, he gets people on that other people don't get, and like I said, he sometimes gets them to say things they wouldn't normally say, but half the time you can't hear all the answers because he has to interrupt and start running his mouth.
@@user-vg3yc6gk5f Then stop listening to him. Don't help promote him.
"At some point I shouldn't have to know Jay Z's music" LMAOO!! He's already stuck in 2004. Tremendous
I'm with jay 100 shit gets old real quick!
Especially that rap shit. It should of died in the 80's.
Is someone gonna tell Jay Leno about Lil Pump and Lil Xan?
That's when it happened , goofball.
Everything post 2005 is garbage anyways
Conan O'Brien - "I just want to say to the kids out there watching: You can do anything you want in life. Unless Jay Leno wants to do it too."
Lesson to the kids out there, be a Jay Leno, not a Conan.
Conan should've gone to *ABC* or *FOX* back in 2004 when they were so anxious to give him a show with an earlier time.
@@adambennett7348 Dave Letterman knew Leno since the beginning and even he knew Leno is a diva.
@@k_hack9441 Diva sounds more like Letterman considering his obvious bitterness.
@@gallery7596 You back from ur dialysis treatments to defend Jay Leno lol?
Bill is so mad that it's not 1993 anymore. Lol
I met Jay Leno in Rhode Island back in 2017 and he's honestly the nicest guy I've ever met. He was with his wife leaving a restaurant.
The nicest ever? X to doubt. X x x x.
I've always been pro-Jay Leno. Dude is great
The story at the end was genius. He undercut everybody and got the biggest pay package later.
Essentially how tech startups work now.
Because Jay understood the difference between confidence that he had in his abilities versus arrogance of his competition.
@@safepethaven I think that's a bit harsh. Nothing wrong with those comedians making their money when it's available. They were simply taking advantage of their name power, which is exactly what they should be doing. It wasn't just the money that got Jay the job. He also was "likeable" to middle America in a way none of those other comedian guest hosts were. It's just timing.
"Just don't be creepy when you talk to them." 😂😂😂
The booze and weed is starting to get to him
So much can be learned from Jay on how he conducted business. He played the long game instead of trying to enrich himself as soon as possible and in the end, he won. I admire this man so much.
Because he didn’t have a manager and agent, he saved around 20-25% of his total income!!
So that helps u negotiate cheaper than others,
cause u already saving 25%,
That’s why he just took the offers, instead of playing hardball with them
& protesting asking for more etc !!!
Makes him look reasonable and easy to work with !!
It Builds good relationships,
but little do they know he’s saving massive money not having his reps !!
No manager or agent also means no sneaky cagey snake, slithering around trying to con u and get more of ya money, or stealing from u,
or just being a negative person in ya life!!
Most of those guys are absolute snakes!!!
Preying on people who trust them!!!
True words.
Also means you have to book your own shit and crunch all of your own numbers
I dont think any agent takes 25%...
You’ll never see Jay sitting there getting stoned.
And? Dude smokes cigars and blows his money on cars.
Protip: of the 3, cannabis is the only one that won’t kill you.
I wish Bill wouldn’t interrupt his guests all the time
His ego and his mouth are in competition, and it's a dead tie
i'm pretty sure this isn't supposed to be a formal interview with an interviewer and interviewee but more an informal, relaxed conversation between 2 friends. At least that's what it sounds like.
@@grahamgreene779 He still interrupts a lot
I miss Jay Leno. He was the last of the "fair" late night talk show hosts. Instead of spending the entire show ripping on Republicans, he actually tried to be fair and would make jokes about both sides. AND it was all in fun. He did it so that everyone could laugh at themselves. You could tell there wasn't the hate behind it that you see with all of the leftist late night TV hosts today.
That's because back in those days there wasn't as much separation between a Republican/Democrat. Those were the days when Republicans were civil and less criminal. It went from agree to disagree to all the sudden I can't do that anymore - something is literally wrong with your moral compass.
@@bryanstarke2931 Yeah, if only those awful Republicans could be more civil and less criminal--like Democrats, the world would be such a better place!
I like Conan o'brien but I never was comfortable with making Jay the bad guy of that story.
Conan's really funny and he's a good guy, too. But green-lighting *NBC's* proposal to retire Jay when he could've gone to *ABC* or *FOX* for a show of his own at an earlier hour was a terrible decision.
I’m here for the Jay Leno redemption arc
Jay seems like a good dude
The movie Leno starred in that he wouldn't give the title to was Collision Course.
I actually searched it here. The full movie is available for free. Gonna watch it now. Thanks. Lol.
I love how Leno calls out Bill Mahr for being Bill Mahr @ 2:00
Which Hot Topic Location is this filmed at?
Love jays level of confidence
The BEST
It's amazing that Helen Kushnicks isn't mentioned once. The magic wand is definitely made of Hollywood, no doubt about it.
Helen Kushnick was Jay's manager, her ruthlessness got Jay Leno the Tonight Show. She planted stories in the LA Times to force Johnny Carson to retire. She ensured Letterman's friendship with Jay was destroyed by upsetting many of David's production team in New York. When Jay started hosting the Tonight Show in 1992, Helen turned into this awful, arrogant, ruthless and sadistic producer which annoyed NBC management, NBC owners GE and all in Hollywood when she used to block guests from being booked, or she would shout a massive abusive tirade to staff and guests. NBC told Jay to fire her in September 1992, if he didn't he would lose the Tonight Show job, so he fired her, NBC banned her from NBC Burbank forever and she turned her fire towards Jay until the day she died, including asking people to read a letter she wrote to be read at her funeral, which would a roast of Jay and totally offensive
He probably tells people when he gives an interview not to ask him about her.
Bill acts like a 14 year old smoking and drinking for the first time.
Bigger than life! Both of You
I wish mr Maher would do a part 2 interview with Leno
A letterman one too
@@jordanweller7485 That'll never happen
Bill is annoying, Jay is great. I like Jay because he doesn’t complain. Bill complains about everything.
Ilove how Joan Rivers is just left out of the conversation every time. She killed it every time she was on
She sucked.
Jay was simple the best and his record at being number 1 is proof it's sad he was under appreciate from the media and others
My issue with Leno is that I never enjoyed him, or his TV show... and I wanted him gone and replaced with someone I did enjoy, namely Conan, and then Leno just wouldn't go away. And Conan was never given a chance to grow into his new time slot. Whatever Maher thinks of Leno, it'll never change that his brand of humor is way too bland and watered down for my taste, and I honestly just wanted him replaced by someone better.
From what I gather from the various interviews Jay has given over the past oh… decade or so, is that more or less, that whole debacle was more an issue with network execs & such, infighting over which host was to have which time-slot of which network, more than any of the actual hosts having much power or say in the matter… as if their souls were very much owned by them network ceo’s &/or exec pricks…. “DO AS WE COMMAND, not as we do”! Aside from that, yeah, I personally always felt that way back in the day, Jay would’ve been best suited for his style of standup comedy for his fan-fair &, the occasional movie acting role.. rather then as a permanent host of an evening comedy show. Either way tho, no one can dispute Jay’s intelligence as to how to be financially successful; quite the sharp tool!
When it comes down to it, what you think of Leno’s humor is completely irrelevant. He was consistently number 1, and when he came back he was still number 1 for 5 more years.
That is how the business works. Conan got his shot and the ratings were subpar, at the end of the day, that’s all that matters.
I generally like Conan but he sucked at the Tonight Show.
Craig could have ran with it with his unquiet brand of humor but Conan’s brand was to be neurotic which he also took to his TBS show. Perhaps it is the brand of TTS where old farts only watch some generic hosts but Conan changed to lame Jimmy Fallon comedian and it sucked ass.
I remember that Jay’s show at 9 pm wasn’t that great either but I had grown out of the Jay and even the Daily Show phase once I watched the Colbert Report. The latter sold out in 2015 and has TDS for someone like me who doesn’t generally like Trump. I actually liked Letterman vs Jay in late night and still think that his show was much better than what the TLS has become after Colbert took it over.
Jay Leno is edgier outside of the tonight show.
@@woobiefuntime He can be funnier but he was edgier two scores four years ago like his pal here
Jay's gets it way more than Bill does.
Jay Leno always talks about being number one, yet NBC still fired him. The reason was because he got old and irrelevant. Leno stopped caring about guests and couldn't relate to the next generation. He basically became a corporate fuddy duddy. NBC wanted new, young blood to take the Tonight Show into the future. Unfortunately, they got Fallon.
The next generation is untalented and are poor guests--no charisma.They're not amusing,interesting or worth talking to.They're BORING.Why we have talk shows at all,anymore,is what amazes me.
The new “young” blood sucks. That’s why.
how can you be irrelevant when you are #1? lmao
Nah. It’s Jay Leno. Johnny Carson could have been 100 and still have been great. Same with Jay. I don’t think it had anything to do with that
Can’t feel bad for him after what happened with Conan.
You probably wear a face mask in public don’t you
@@chadmcdaniel7740 I wear a hoodie upside down
Conan pretty much did it to himself, though.
@@gallery7596 how so?
@@ChrisOzar Conan in 2004 was hot, approaching the end of his contract and receiving major offers. He could've done a show at *ABC,* or at *FOX* (where they were offering him almost double what *NBC* wanted to pay him). But Conan accepted the *NBC* proposal that also meant forcibly retiring Jay. And Jay had supported Conan in many ways through the years (particularly during his early low-rated days as the fledgling host of "Late Night"). And let's remember that when things started going badly, *NBC* still wanted to keep Conan as host of "The Tonight Show." But he chose to resign and take the buy out package. If Conan had accepted one of those huge offers from *ABC* or *FOX,* he would've had his show with an earlier start time, wouldn't have had to wait 5 years to get it, Jay and his staff could've stayed on at "The Tonight Show," and the entire debacle would've been averted.
Jay Leno for President!!
I never thought they fired him. Just thought he had the show for 15 years and Conan was going to do the next 15
NBC told Leno in 2004 they'd give him another 5 year deal but when that ran out he wouldn't be kept on no matter what. So technically he wasn't fired, he was just given a very long period of notice.
Pretty dumb move, Jay stayed no.1 comfortably and Conan's popularity dropped off. Not one person was to blame for debacle but no one covered themselves in glory either. It was such a weird set of events.
@@PauloTheGeek But I think Jay staying with NBC hurt Conans show, even if Jay didn't purposely plan that. By doing the show before Conan everyone started focusing on him and the controversy and it was a bad lead in for Conans show. They also didn't give Conan enough time to work out his show. It had some problems when they moved Conan from ny to la and when they hired back Andy Richter who is incredibly unlikeable. Every show Andy is on fails.
@@bluedot6933 If Conan had taken the offer from *ABC* or *FOX* instead of greenlighting *NBC's* weird plan, he would've had a network talk show, nobody would've had to give up their time slot, Conan wouldn't have had to wait 5 years to get it, Jay and his staff could've remained at "The Tonight Show," and the entire debacle would've been averted.
@@gallery7596 But Jay was 60 years old in 2010. So he probably would have done the show another 5 years. So Jay just caused himself a lot of problems for a few more years.
@@bluedot6933 Carson was 67 *and* he got to name his own retirement date.
RE: "So Jay just caused himself a lot of problems for a few more years."
There wouldn't have been any problems if Conan had said no *NBC's* proposal. All he needed to do was look at how they were treating Jay (the #1 guy in late-night who was making millions for them- and they thought they could predict when he'd no longer be valuable). And keeping Conan on a string for 5 years was basically how they kept Jay from leaving 18 years earlier.
*"Stay with us, Jay and we guarantee you Johnny's seat."*
But when he took over, they were ready to drop Jay and give the job to Dave in order to keep him from going to *CBS.*
It's the same thing. But for some reason Conan thought *NBC* couldn't do to him what they'd done to both Jay and Dave. Terrible decision-making.
miss this legend ..i wish he one his own new show...
Wasn't Helen Kushnick Jay's agent?
She was until her erratic behaviour forced Jay to fire her.
Helen Kushnick was Jay's manager, her ruthlessness got Jay Leno the Tonight Show. She planted stories in the LA Times to force Johnny Carson to retire. She ensured Letterman's friendship with Jay was destroyed by upsetting many of David's production team in New York. When Jay started hosting the Tonight Show in 1992, Helen turned into this awful, arrogant, ruthless and sadistic producer which annoyed NBC management, NBC owners GE and all in Hollywood when she used to block guests from being booked, or she would shout a massive abusive tirade to staff and guests. NBC told Jay to fire her in September 1992, if he didn't he would lose the Tonight Show job, so he fired her, NBC banned her from NBC Burbank forever and she turned her fire towards Jay until the day she died, including asking people to read a letter she wrote to be read at her funeral, which would a roast of Jay and totally offensive
I love leno
Bill Maher isn't a very good interviewer when he's' drunk and high.
I love these two guys. Both of them are down to earth and have maintained their integrity.
Both of those things are absolutely wrong.
Hahaha........right.
He had the number 1 show and they were kicking him out! Lol, like the guy or not… he was getting fuct too. Always made out to be the bad guy, but really it was on NBC.
Bill Hicks' bit is still getting better.
Don’t Bogart that joint Bill. So he does.
Weren’t the Nielsen reports about his show saying that his viewerbase was starting to plummet because they were dying? He was on for so long it’s not like a surprise.
No, TV-By-The-Numbers indicated he was winning in the important 18-49 year old category even in his final year as host.
Imagine bill marr is telling jay leno how to live his life, are we living in a parallel universe
Jay would rather be talking about steam cars.
Have Jordan Peterson on
Jay Leno has 100 million dollars. I think he managed just fine.
Ever seen his car collection? Google it.
Ever seen his car collection? Google it.
Obviously if he was being fired twice then he’s not number one. There just happened to be two people who were better than him
and yet the audience tuned in night after night? lol you conan fans are really a hoot
Jay beat Dave for over a decade before *NBC* pulled him in favour of Conan. And when Jay returned after Conan's resignation, he was soon #1 again and attracted the most 18 - 49 year olds to the end of his run in 2014.
Wow $512 a night to host the tonight show..
Why don’t they mention that when it mattered most, Jay did have the snake whispering in their ear…in the form of Helen Kushnick, who outmaneuvered Letterman to get Jay the tonight show to begin with.
Letterman was never going to get the Tonight Show anyway. That's well documented. Letterman and the NBC executives hated each other, and he would regularly mock them on his show.
Bills body is from beavis & butthead
When will Bill have Trump do his podcast ?
# 1...Lol...Fox News is # 1..LOL
It's not fired for being number one, they didn't want to keep paying him more money
Actually, he cut his own salary and had it spread among staff on the show. He thought they were underpaid.
Bill does a stage whisper like Biden
Jay's the best!
If every who said they liked Conan actually watched Conan then NBC would still have the Tonight Show with Conan O'Brien.
that's so true XD
Yeah, because the ratings of a guy put in front of an audience who didn't get his schtick, nor was given the time to adapt them to it, is a solid indication of the fanbase.
A fan-base which has kept Conan's career alive for another decade on cable of all things.
@@raveoreynolds6049 4 million likes on fb vs 400k viewership..... yeah that argument just doesn't work chief
@@hakimshah8397 Uh...yeah it does? Engagement is engagement. I guarantee more people know Conan O'Brien worldwide than know Jay Leno.
@@raveoreynolds6049 on the contrary, more people like cars than they like tall ginger dudes acting silly 😆
Jay could STILL be on today and hit the ratings of Fallon, Meyers, Kimmel, Corden and probably even Colbert 👍 NBC 🤦♂️
Too bad he could have the highest ratings in TV history, and it wouldn't make him funnier.
@@raveoreynolds6049 comedy is very subjective
Maybe he could, but I think Jay knows that going out while you're still hot
beats hanging on when it's obvious you're passed your prime (much like Johnny and Dave did).
I like Leno. I like letterman. I love Conan. I cant stand Bill Maher
Maher is right on this point about age, you can be 90, and still be very cool and very intuitive, when I was 20, my friends wanted my grandfather around, because he was so funny and interesting
Bill has the head of a 50 something year old man, but the body of a 12 year old girl.
Maher talks to women under 30 and he's not creepy? I remember Bella Thorne. Major projection here.
The problem they had with Jay was he wasn't jewish Simple as that
The shit Leno gets is from people he outsmarted. Professional jealously, that's all.
Sabotaging co workers could be considered outsmarting someone.
In the same way lying, conniving, and manipulating is considered outsmarting people.
Its really just lower ethics, but nobody cares about that anymore. Lie cheat and steal. Thats the way!
And one day, for no reason whatsoever..
So glad when both of these hacks go away for good.
I’m s this the Dick Cavvette show?
Maher and Jay have far different definitions of creepy.
Bill your creepy so yes it’s true jay is right
Jay is a genius.
Bill is the most annoying host. All he does is interrupt Jay. Jesus, let him talk.
They wanted to be nothing. Incredible.
He needed an agent or a manager to fight for him..
He really did, or they just walk all over you and you give up 🤷♂️
He used to a long time ago
because he made jokes about baracck
Hardly. Jay was 64 and even he said it was time to go.
I know this is an unpopular opinion but I actually think Jay Leno was kind of screwed over in the whole process too. The one thing he could have done is made the integral choice to not take the Tonight Show back. He should have known that would have backfired. But they went to him 4 years before they even did the switch and told him that they were going to put Conan in his spot for years from then and they did. I do think so Conan O'Brien would still be the host of The Tonight Show if Jay Leno would have just bowed out and went away. So he's not completely innocent in the matter but it is possible that it shouldn't have happened in the first place. There's a good chance he would still be the host of The Tonight Show if they didn't want to try to hold on to Conan O'Brien so badly. But we will never know. I'm glad Conan O'Brien is doing well because he is my favorite out of any talk show host before or since. But I also watch The Tonight Show with Jay Leno and I have fond memories of that show too
From the moment Conan signed his deal to acquire "The Tonight Show" Jay was getting screwed.
RE: "The one thing he could have done is made the integral choice to not take the Tonight Show back."
But he had to give up "The Tonight Show" because of a decision Conan and the network made, so why should Jay turn down a chance to return? And he had his staff to consider, too.
RE: "He should have known that would have backfired."
He got to host for 4 more years and went out #1. How did it backfire?
RE: "I do think so Conan O'Brien would still be the host of The Tonight Show if Jay Leno would have just bowed out."
I think Conan's the one who should've moved on. In 2004 Conan's contract was about to expire, and he could've had a show at *ABC,* and *FOX* wanted to pay Conan almost double what *NBC* was offering him to wait 5 years for "The Tonight Show." If Conan had accepted one of those offers, he could've had a show with an earlier start time, Jay and his staff could've remained at "The Tonight Show," and the whole debacle would've been averted.
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@@gallery7596 you know that's messed up. I spent a long time as a hater of Jay Leno because of the Tonight Show debacle until the last couple years so I started to see it as less of something Jay Leno did and more something NBC did. But I never really looked at it as Conan should have never taken Tonight Show in the first place. That's kind of a thought that's blowing my mind right now and making me think you making me think MF. I'm sure nobody predicted what happened but yeah if they never tried to keep Conan or ig Conan would have decided to move on Jay Leno would still be the host of The Tonight Show. I was a big fan of Jay leno. The Jay Leno Conan O'Brien team up to me it'll never be the same. I kind of like Jimmy Fallon I kind of like Seth Meyers I kind of like the other guys kind of lol. Appreciate you giving me some food for thought it's crazy I've never really thought of this whole situation from that specific angle. Now I'm going to take a walk while some introspective music plays while I think...
@@cameronrobinson3933 Conan's a good guy. A talented comedy writer & fine talk show host, too. He just didn't think it through when *NBC* was dangling that show in front of him. If *NBC* could screw Dave, and screw Jay, then there was no reason to believe they couldn't turn around and do the same thing to him. But it's a long time ago and everybody still came out rich, so that's good.
Helen Kushnick was Jay's manager, her ruthlessness got Jay Leno the Tonight Show. She planted stories in the LA Times to force Johnny Carson to retire. She ensured Letterman's friendship with Jay was destroyed by upsetting many of David's production team in New York. When Jay started hosting the Tonight Show in 1992, Helen turned into this awful, arrogant, ruthless and sadistic producer which annoyed NBC management, NBC owners GE and all in Hollywood when she used to block guests from being booked, or she would shout a massive abusive tirade to staff and guests. NBC told Jay to fire her in September 1992, if he didn't he would lose the Tonight Show job, so he fired her, NBC banned her from NBC Burbank forever and she turned her fire towards Jay until the day she died, including asking people to read a letter she wrote to be read at her funeral, which would a roast of Jay and totally offensive.
Helen paid for her machinations, but it sure was tragic because it didn't have to be that way. They had a written guarantee that Jay would inherit "The Tonight Show" when Johnny left and she was going to be the producer. But Helen had to ruin everything by planting those stories alleging the network wanted Carson out. And when Jay asked her if she was behind it, she lied to his face and told him she wasn't. The revelation put Jay in a tough position because he and Helen had been longtime friends, it ruined Jay's relationship with Johnny, and it turned off some viewers because they continued to suspect Jay (who revered Johnny) was in on Helen's scheme.
Regarding Kushnick writing a letter to be read at her funeral roasting Jay: to go out like that pretty much confirms that she was a disturbed personality.
So sad for everybody involved.
I never had that much regard for Jay Leno. I'm racking my brains for an iconic joke or interview and not coming up with anything memorable. But it could be a circular argument. since I might have missed it because I didn't like him enough to watch him in the first place.
Jaywalking...Jaywalking..Jaywalking...watch, you’ll like it!
@@robinmiller5256 okay I'll look for it.
Well that's just it. Jay was number 1 because he produced the most middle of the road, by the books content one could possibly muster.
It meant that his comedy was accessible to everyone, but loved by nobody.
*"Donald Trump is returning to tv next year with a new reality show. 'The Amazing Racist.'"* ~ Jay Leno
@@gallery7596 Can you remember when he made that joke? Doesn't sound like his style.
What a shameless liar lol
Jay Leno got fired for being a weasel not for being number one everybody knows Jay Leno is a weasel
No.
Read "The War For Late Night" by Bill Carter, Mark.
@@gallery7596 no
@@gallery7596 also that makes you a weasel too
@@Mark_B585 Read the book, Mark - unless you're afraid to learn that Conan was as responsible for that debacle as anyone else involved. Are you?
@@gallery7596 no
Rich guys talking about how 500 bucks to work for an hour is chump change and how they later got 50,000 for it which was probably also chump change. Have fun!!
Keep being envious
@@jimmycakes7158 just seems disconnected from reality. I’d never complain about the money I make in front of people not in that group of people.
Conan’s ratings were higher than Leno’s. Bottom line, Leno was old, outdated and not funny anymore. This ATV attitude is unbecoming. He should have stepped down gracefully. He fought the Fallon decision hard also.
RE: "Conan’s ratings were higher than Leno’s."
Jay went out #1. After Conan took over, however, within a week "The Tonight Show" was falling behind *CBS.* And that trend continued all summer, too. But when Jay returned, in a few months "TTS" was #1 again.
RE: "He should have stepped down gracefully."
He did. Jay could've complained like Letterman, but it wasn't going to change the network's decision. So (as per their request) he wished Conan well and stepped down on May 30th, 2009.
RE: "He fought the Fallon decision hard also."
When it was announced that Jay was being let go again, he and Jimmy Fallon did a funny song parody together. Why would Jay have done that if he was fighting the decision?
first
#1 Douche
Why.. ?
@@tmtimphal5095 see what happened with Dave and later Conan.
@@Steven_Edwards Dave and Conan couldn't pull his numbers get over it dude!
@@Steven_Edwards Dave didn't get picked (first) to replace Carson- which was in large part because he was asking too much money, control of the late night schedule, and he didn't maintain a cordial relationship with the network. Then *NBC* switched horses and offered Dave "The Tonight Show" . . . and he turned it down.
Conan, on the other hand, could've had a show at *ABC,* or at *FOX* where they were offering him way more money than *NBC* was. But he chose to take *NBC's* 5 year proposal that would forcibly retire Jay so he could have "The Tonight Show," and it blew up in everybody's face.
Dave and Conan did it to themselves.
Leno was creepy as fuck with guests
@@gallery7596 Recent Disney show Tommy and Pam focused on one of his interviews with Anderson, I looked it up thinking it couldn't be that bad, it was worse. I remember a super model in a diamond bikini top getting really weird. I mean this clip says it all, he feels a 60 year old interviewer wth a 20 year old model looks off, it only looks bad if the 60 year old is a perv.
Re: "Recent Disney [drama] show ''Pam'' & Tommy" focused on one of his interviews with Anderson":
Okay, this is what was said about it: "The exact interview shown in ''Pam & Tommy'' never happened in real life; instead, it was a combination of a few interviews. The dress and makeup that the Anderson character flaunts in ''Pam & Tommy'' episode 1 point to a specific interview Pamela Anderson did with Jay Leno in 1996 (via TH-cam) when she was expecting her first child with Tommy Lee."
I've seen it. It's 2 minutes and 40 seconds and it's harmless.
"However, in another real-life appearance by Anderson on "The Tonight Show," Anderson aired her grievances at Leno for several jokes he had made about them in his monologues."
So, in real life it appears that Jay wasn't saying anything creepy about Pam to her face. It was jokes he'd told about that sex tape in his monologues- and we know he wasn't the only talk show host telling such jokes at that time.
Now can you tell us this 20 year old model's name, please?
@@gallery7596 Heidi Klum, but again Jay Leno sees something wrong with an older host interviewing some young model, not me. But the joy he took in those Anderson jokes and Lewinski jokes, don't remember as many Clinton and Tommy Lee jokes.
RE: "Heidi Klum"
Thank you.
th-cam.com/video/ufhu-9Mz7ys/w-d-xo.html
Looks like it was her idea.
RE: "...don't remember as many Clinton [---] jokes."
Bill Clinton? Jay told so many Monica jokes Clinton refused to come on "The Tonight Show" even after he was out of office.
@@gallery7596 Exactly Monica jokes, and that's not the full Klum clip