Honestly, when designing the Chapter 3 map, I think Epic was simply trying to invoke feelings of Chapter 1 within the map, to bring back the OGs who felt isolated during Chapter 2. Chapter 3 had an intentionally positive and welcoming vibe, with season names like Vibin and Paradise, and familiar locations brought back after so long. It truly felt like a celebration of both new and old, and then Chapter 4 busted in and was like "Yeah, party's over."
I feel like that this is the chapter 1 map but it's different mostly because of the black hole altering the matter on the map, and not really because of the primal age.
@@thespacejumper1164 In a way, I'm not surprised I already knew that if epic were to ever bring back the old map they HAVE to change some things around. (Cuz the the new engine graphics and the chapter 2 map would be pointless if the game were to revert back to it's exact state it was in before)
@@thespacejumper1164 the chapter 2 confirmed to be the old map cuz it was just rearranged, risky isn’t really risky anymore so that’s supposed to be a “new poi” and the chapter 2 and chapter 3 map are connected
@@themysteryhedgehog5184 The chapter 2 map is NOT the chapter 3 or 1 map. this is bc of the way the zero point works. when we went in the blackhole we flipped onto the other side of the map so there for we were not on the chapter 1 map when we were on the chapter 2 map.
I personally agree with this theory, epic confirmed that the end event had the zero point rearrange the whole chapter 1 island into the chapter 2 island. And since the chapter 3 and chapter 2 island are somewhat connected, then the chapter 3 island is also the chapter 1 island rearranged. As said, the chapter 1 pois were on both islands.
What my theory is that the chapter 1 island was all alone and when the black hole event happened the zero point created two islands and that’s why there are Same locations from the chapter 1 map to chapter 2 and 3 so that’s my theory.
I know that when I said this “the zero point created two islands” I meant to say was “the zero point rearranged the island into two islands” so sorry for the misunderstanding
I think the chapter 1 island was actually split in half creating both chapter 2 and 3 which is why some locations and big structures from chapter 1 appear on chapter 2 and 3 this could also explain why there was an island under chapter 2 and possibly nothing under chapter 1
Personally, I think C1 had a flipside too, the zero point rearranged the map and some POI's. We just never discovered the flipside in C1. This is my theory.
Exactly, the Zero Point after the live event split the Ch 1 Island into two separate Islands and then added New stuff into the mix to make the Ch 2 and Ch 3 Islands. It would also explain why the Ch 3 map is known as the ‘Flipside’. More proof to add to this is by looking at the Ch 2 and 3 Codenames. If you Google “Greek Gods” you’ll see that there’s two gods “Apollo” and “Artemis” and it appears that these names are the exact codenames of the Ch 2 and 3 Island. Furthermore, if you search even deeper: you’ll see that both gods are actually twin siblings, implying that the Ch 2 and 3 maps are twin islands.
It’s much more like the older map and it’s obvious to Epic that everyone wants the old map back in some way. I imagine this is their way of doing it. Creating a map reminiscent of the Chapter 1 map while still having it be new and fresh. I like where this chapter is going.
Donald Mustard confirmed that the chapter 2 island was just the chapter 1 island rearranged by the zero point. The zero point had created two islands; one above it and one below it for protection on all angles. This is why we see places like Pleasant park, retail row and salty springs on chapter 2, but not on chapter 3. This is also why we do not see anything from chapter 2 on the Chapter 3 map. Instead, it is just all the remaining matter from chapter 1 that we did not see in chapter 2 such as Greasy grove or the volcano. However I do not think that it is the chapter 1 map, but instead both chapter 2 and 3 are the result of the zero point rearranging its matter.
Correction: He said the chapter 2 map, not the chapter 2 side of the map. Maybe he was referring to the flipside of the map that the chapter 3 side of the chapter 2 map is re-arranged.
Quick Explanation: Chapter 1 had its matter reorganized at the end of Season X, then we got sent to the other side of the map, being Chapter 2, at the end of Chapter 2, we were sent back to our timeline, where much of the biomes changed due to matter reorganization. however, places like the Racetrack, Tilted, Sunny Steps, the Volcano, Loot Lake, and other items returning, with even the Zero Point in the same area. The rebuilding of the Chapter 3 map was by those who escaped the loop, a goal of Midas.
When the zero point exploded/imploded it reformed the current reality into the two sides the reasoning for it creating two sides is because it would be more protected, the chapter three map just contains more of our previous island than the other side
The arm is not from the monster winning to the mech, it’s when the monster bit the arm of the mech, and threw it in the water, it’s at the exact same spot of where the monster threw it. And this monster vs mech event was way back at Chapter 1, so most likely we are in the chapter 1 map.
@@crenbeast your theory is very flawed, i commented my theory ridding it of all flaws Edit: no offence, just saying I found a few flaws. How about you make another video and explain the same but with the added points from my video?
This is probably the best theory I've heard so far. My theory is that the flip side existed during chapter 1 which means that the chapter 2 map already existed, just on the other side. And during the end event, the entire map encluding the flip side part got sucked in, and the zero point had to try and fix everything before people could escape the loop. Which is why on the new map, we ended up with 3 on locations since it probably didn't have enough time to reconstruct them into something new. And when we got fliped a second time, all of the stuff the zero point didn't reconstruct into chapter 2 was there. And you might be asking,"Then why was tilted in chapter 2?" And I'm here to say that it was there because it got rifted in from a past loop. And you also might be asking, "If the the other side if just stuff the zero point didn't reconstruct, then why is the monster from the live event under the snow?" And the answer to that is that it is the weird dinasour thing you could see in the chapter 3 trailer. Even more proof is that during the marvel season, you could get And achievement called thwip referencing Spiderman wich means that spider man was in the loop, but the zero point couldn't rift it onto the normal side so it just put it with the rest of the stuff it didn't use. The dino bois that we will see later in the season are also just unused creature in hibernation since they were meant for the primal season with the rapter bois but the zero point also couldn't rift them in so it just sent them to the flip side.
Makes a lot of sense but I have and Idea in season 5 not only we got Tilted but Durrr burger, Flush and Tomato building. My theory is that they got rifted from the other side which was chapter 1 season 4 or early 5 the they got rifted there and the story continues on the flipside which eventually becomes chapter 3. Which makes a lot of sense bc then the story would be normal and the chapter 1 island ends on season X then bc of the primal age a lot of the stuff got reset and had to be build back from scratch and that is how I think the chapter 3 happened
@@minipz9thebastfiiter509 Makes sense bc blue warehouse was literally there and there was a smaller version of the grey one and then the red one returned in season 5 btw what is your favorite location of all time mine has to be Greasy Grove
I think the ‘storyline’ explanation is as follows: Fortnite chapter 1 had a flipside like how chapter 2 and chapter 3 were connected, during the end event the island was all mixed up so chapter 2 had some aspects of chapter 1 and some from chapter 1’s flipside. Chapter 3 was a mix of the rest of the chapter 1 map that chapter 2 didn’t have and the rest of chapter 1’s flipside. Basically like a two sided puzzle that got mixed up and got put back together differently.
that's what i think apart from chapter 1 having a flipside. I believe a few places from chapter one went to chapter 2, like retail, pleasant while the majority layed on chapter 3, the terrain, volcano, tilted, and everything else
I hope Epic takes advantage of the time travel theme in the story and brings back the old map. I think the best maps were the Seasons 4 and 5 maps. Not only does it fit in with the storyline of the game, but it's good for marketing as a ton of people would come back to the game and the community would love it.
exactly and it makes sense from a development standpoints, they can do that so they can see how they improved and re-do fortnite, but now with more experience in making the terrain and other stuff. They're already brining back older grass colours, water ripple effects. They just need to re-do fortnite, older graphics mixed with modern ones, more optimized for lower budget pc players and better features to fix past mistakes in how they made the map back in chapter 1.
So, I interpreted this theory as: At the end of Chapter 1, the island was rearranged and split in two to form Apollo and Artemis (Chapter 2 island and Chapter 3 island respectively). We were teleported to the other side of the island (Chapter 2). While we were playing in CH2, the remnants of the chapter 1 island (where most of the OG terrain and POIs were left behind) slowly changed and evolved into the chapter 3 island. When the island flipped at the end of Chapter 2, we were sent back to the former chapter 1 island, which had already evolved into the chapter 3 island. Did I get it?
not the real story but the zero point making this from rearanging the ch1 island is said by the creators as true but actually the zero point didn't send us to the ch2 island the io flipped the island before we got there otherwise we will have ch2 on ch3 island
My personal theory is that there was a map below the chapter 1 map that we’ve never seen, when the Zero Point blew up it reforged these islands into two new ones using pieces from both islands, this is the reason that there’s chapter 1 locations in chapter 2 and some never before seen locations in chapter 3, my other theory is that the chapter 5 map could be the flip side of chapter 1 and that could have some of the locations, but since the event isn’t for like another 12 hours we’ll have to wait and see
I think the actual canon might be:- 1. The zero point destroys ch1 island and uses some of it with more matter to make ch2 island 2. It takes the remaining matter and puts it back with some new matter to make ch3 island 3. The IO flips the island to the ch2 side 4. We flip it back to ch3 island
It was super disappointing to see chapter 3 go after only 4 seasons. It had the second best map out of all four of them and I feel like it was so a missed opportunity to expand on that map.
This is interesting seeing about 2 years on, with the OG map back and about to end again in the Big Bang Event. You mentioned something about time, which is how we returned to chapter 1's map
I mean I'm in chapter 4 rn, but back then when the snow disappeared in chapter 3 you could see it was extremely similar to the chapter 1 map, but some things and poi's were not in the same place, maybe because they were either rebuilt or the black hole changed and altered the way the map looks. So basically, I agree 👍
I think what happened is: After the black hole, most of the stuff from the CH.1 map were coming together to make the Chapter 3 map. However, I.O was using their Gyro system and turned the island down to the water. The rest of the stuff that came together (Like Pleasant, Salty, and Retail) made the Chapter 2 map, which didn't have as much O.G stuff as Chapter 3. This is my theory for Chapters 2 and 3.
honestly I thought that when the black hole rearranged the island, it ended up taking places like logjam, sleepy sound (as a town), camp cuddle and ripping them out of chapter 2 and replacing them with retail row, pleasant park and salty springs. Lonely lodge got ripped out of the chapter 1 map, creating the ch 3 beach area and Weeping Woods, and junk junction and dusty got ripped apart to form dirty docks. Then, during chapter 2 season 5, the zero point altered the chapter 1 map’s geography drastically, turning it into what we have now. Pressure Plant was erased and became a huge lake, and Tomato town was added back as Coney Crossroads, while the Viking mountain became the mountain where Covert Cavern was.
I hope it slowly does go back to how the old map looked and it would demonstrate your theory that the events on the Island are all out of order. One day development will end on Fortnite BR so it might make sense if all three maps rotate as part of the main story of Fortnite, as it is a loop.
Maybe extra land was underneath And another island grew on the other Side 1:Zero after season 6,He grabbed the og map and the land underneath,then squished it down, straightening up the matter.
The chapter 2 and chapter 3 maps are twin anomalies. Each side of the island has completely different POIs to each other because only one side of the island can hold one poi at on time. So basically when we were sucked into the black hole matter was reorganized by the zero point into two separate islands that held every poi that was on chapter 1 just on two different islands this time
Isn’t Agent Jones on the Seven’s side? Also, remember, the zero point rearranged the island to create the chapter 2 island, which could mean that the OG locations on both the Chapter 2 and Chapter 3 map were placed there by the Zero Point
It looks like fortnite's story is coming to an end, by showing a full loop. Going back to chapter one by rebuilding it, which means they'd have to make the zero point intact again, resulting in memory wipes, and thus perpetuating the everlasting cycle of fortnite.
Omg a memory wipe would be so cool! Just starting all of chapter 1 all over. Adding the same stuff. It sounds a bit boring but I'm sure so many people would love to play the old map again with the old mechanics. The menu better changes too, cause this item shop and battlepass menus are absolute dogshit
i think that the chapter 1 island never had a flip side and it was just an island. But during the black hole event all the matter got rearranged around the zero point creating two islands, both with chapter one aspects.
I would say this is a really good theory. Technically this is a theory for both sides however as it was confirmed that the chapter 1 can't return as when the zero point imploded it took the chapter 1 map and rearranged it. Not to mention that during the C2 End event the gyro system was actually on meaning the C3 map was actually the original non-flipped island. Makes you wonder, was there another side for chapter 1? Probably but we never got to experience it. I would guess that all of those new locations on C2 and C3 probably were on the flipside of C1 if there was one. I'm sorry for the long comment. Edit: damn if only I knew
I like the idea that some or all of the new locations from chapter 2 and 3 were from the chapter 1 flipside. That would make sense since the zero point rearanged the matter from chapter 1, and as matter can never be created or destroyed the new POI's had to come from somewhere, right? Anyways, good comment!
@@jp-zp3ds I don't get why people like u have to be so dense.. on the official epic games website they basically confirm that the chapter 3 island isn't new. It only SEEMS that way.
@@Cosmicmorales No, the island isn’t new exactly. It’s just reformed matter from both sides of the chapter 1 island. Donald Mustard himself confirmed it. It seems that large clumps of matter still managed to remain hence why there’s some old poi’s.. and why the other old poi’s from the chapter 2 map isn’t here either. And also, Season 6 wasn’t us being sent back in time.. the reason it was primal was because of a reality wave, which is explained during the intro. There’s A LOT more holes in this theory but just the beginning statement itself extremely debunks this
I liked the storyline of chapter 1 wayyy more than the new storyline. It had better map updates, talking about all the excavator sites and stuff, it introduced way better POIs, talking about Polar Peak, the volcano
6:11 Am confused at this part. This was the robot part when the Cattis ripped it off, throwing into the same spot in season 9. And also the monster beneath the snow was a little monster and not the cattis monster. But I’ll say I respect your own opinion.
Right! We are back on the chapter one map, which is how the arm is there. In my theory, some things stayed the same while other things changed because of us going back to the primal age. Just a theory though :) also, correct. I recorded this before the buttercake dinosaur was uncovered to be under the snow. My bad!
@@BWStudios2001 Fair enough! I do mostly theories and stuff over on Tik Tok with some other guys, and none of us realized that. We were a little slow hahaa
My theory: When we got sucked into Loot Lake in Chapter 1s end event, we were brought under the chapter 1 map, which was the chapter 2 map. While we were on chapter 2, the Zero Point was left to rearrange the chapter 1 map and make it completely different. So when the island flipped during the Chapter 2 end event, it revealed Chapter 1 but rearranged. (Chapter 3.)
I hope your right about us going back to the old map with the old items, that was the fun fortnite. Also I hope we get the old cartoony aesthetic because while I was watching I realized how much better and gray and colorful the old map was. Including old storm
Same, they are already bringing back older grass colours and cartoonier water ripples. Just hope that they combined their all best skills to make an optimized og style, but with good terrain making and props. But defo bring back more optimized lighting and graphics.
Since chapter 2 and chapter 3 are connected in the same island, and the chapter 1 pois are in chapter 2 and 3 island, this could mean that the chapter 1 is indeed in the same island, but matched with chapter 2 and chapter 3 map.
My theory is that chapter 1 got sucked into the black hole to shut down the loop but it rebooted the chapter 1 map and scattered a few pois in the season X map to chapter 2 and the remaining to the flip side. like Viking mountain and snobby were on chapter 2. The Cube rift zone was remade into steamy and the remaining are on the flip side
Theory: Since It was confirmed the chapter 2 map, was the map created by the chapter one map, that means this entire island was made by the chapter 1 map so chapter 3 is also made by chapter one. Evidence: both chapter 2 and 3 both have chapter 1 poi's. The chapter 1 map was split into 2 islands. OR the chapter one map had 2 side.
I think the c1 map had 2 sides, with the c1 map becomming c3, and the c2 map being the flipside of c1. And the zero point rearranged somethings with the POI's and landscape!
the chapter 1 map having 2 sides seems more reasonable to me. for example, the new pois that appeared in ch 2 season 1. the new stuff in chapter 3 could just be stuff that happened on ch 1's flipside as well.
IT MAKES SENSE! When we time traveled to OG fortnite, we were on the chapter 4 side, we were on the same side as chapter 3 because no flip. We time traveled to chapter 1 because we never swapped sides! I predict chapter 5 will be on the opposite side
that doesn't really make sense, as we see the chapter 2 and 3 maps exploding into chunks, scattered around space when in the fact explosion the distance of the two are so small that they would just be mixed together
I was thinking that too! This is what I told my friend few days ago when I thought about this. “I just thought something. So the zero point reformed the chapter one map and made the chapter 2 map. I’m thinking that it reformed and made two maps. The chapter 2 and 3 one on opposite sides. That’s why we see the old volcano, greasy, loot lake, sunny steps, shifty shafts, etc on the chpt 3 map. That’s why we don’t see them in the Chpt 2 map, since it reformed into 2 maps. With half the chpt 1 locations on the 2nd and other half on the 3rd map. Sorry if you get eye aids from reading this”
we didnt flip at the end event, the energy of the chapter 1 map got sucked into the blackhole and it scattered on both sides of the new map, this is why retail row and pleasant park are on the other side of the map then were greasy grove and tilted towers are, time didn't pass by in the moment of downtime between season x and chapter 2 because nothing existed due to the zero point not being there, no zero point = no map, no time, no people, nothing exists without the zero point
Seeing this now, knowing about how chapter 4 wasn't planned and that the og season was originally going to happen at the end of chapter 3, it makes so much sense.
Chapter 4 might be a whole reset once again, I'm predicting the 7 are just gonna tinker with the zero point once again, chapter 1 style and reset the island and we will have chapter 1 all over again, but it will just be different, maybe better. We might just go through the same map updates etc. but now that epic has more feedback, it might just be way better, the terrain will be built in the newer way but still the same layout. It's slowly being hinted, epic are even bringing back the older style of graphics and features a bit, especially the cartoony water ripples are back, grass isn't as bright again. Etc. The chapter 3 island might also be the far future of the first island cuz the volcano is completely done, robot is gone and there's the seven who made their own base, so they might reset this all over again and we will progress through chapter 1 once again, just differently. From Epic's standpoint, this might also just be a re-do of fortnite, seeing how they improved on updating the game and their choices on what to add and the art style, a lot of people criticized the art style that fortnite was going towards. We might get older graphics that are more optimized mixed with the more modern fortnite features like terrain and tress combined with older more optimized trees and maybe more features in the settings or players with lower budget PCs. They took away building to maybe let some players back in to be interested in fortnite once again and it worked. So this might be a really good decision, nostalgic and fresh at the same time cuz it's basically like an alternate version of the first island's history. I just wanna see the meteor again, we might get a different member of the 7 in the meteor this time instead of visitor, the meteor might land somewhere else, maybe actually destroying tilted. And we might see the rocket launch event again, would be amazing.
6:22 But remember in the event in season 9 the robots arm was torn off explaining why its in the water and there was a dinosaur in the trailer so i think that is what is under the snow
I’m staring to believe this cuz parts of the og map are starting to come back to the chpt 3 map like loot lake,tilted towers,shifty shafts,and greasy grove but I think it’s not the same map but instead the old map is coming back
Back in season x, we theorized that we traveled back in time resulting in Chapter 2 map. Now this could be a way to figure it out what was like before the chapter 1. Now, if the chapter 3 map is indeed the same one as the chapter 1 map, that means when we are in Chapter 2, the other Island was under the map. The foundation also said something about we are the "loopers". There was a part in the last event when they called us "loopers" instead of people or something like that. We are the "loopers" that are stuck in this reality and when we are free once and for all, it is finished.
He literally explained what Loopers were, they are people who enter the Loop, which like he explained, a way to protect and seal the Zero Point backed up by The Storm which loops every 20 minutes, erases your memories and such
I also agree with you,because there's a lot of reasons, 1 is chapter 3 seems like chapter 1 and everything else about it also tells about the simalrities
I recently noticed the new location Logjam Junction has a very similar name to an old location. This old location is Junk Junction. Not only is the name similar, it is in the exact same spot that junk junction once was.
You see, the black hole event jumbled up the map and some places are gone and some survived. Seeing as there are 2 sides to the island, POIs from this chapter and last chapter may have been under the chapter 1 map this whole time.
I personally agree with this theory. But if they had to rebuild the island. Wouldn't Moisty mire and Weeping woods be back in the map? Back then we didn't have the Volcano nor Desert. and wouldn't POI's like Flush factory and Anarchy Acres be back? Since we didn't have the Snow or Jungle Biomes. And Also Lazy Links wasn't there at the time. Also A Big Mysteries is: What happened to Snobby Shores, Haunted Hills, Flush Factory, Anarchy Acres Weeping Woods, Fatal Fields, Junk Junction, The Block, Tomato Town, Lonely Lodge, Dusty Depot/Dusty Divot (And other POI's) and where are they now? How did the Jungle Biome Get here? We know that Moisty Mires was replaced due to The Crack merging Realities. But after that, How did The volcano, Sunny Steps and Lazy Lagoon Get into the Chapter 1 Map. What Happened To Happy Hamlet and Frosty Flights? Why did the Water in the Chapter 1 map kill you and not kill you in Chapter 2 or 3?
@@NikoK2606 That Doesn't make sense. A Volcano doesn't just doesn't appear in a middle of a Jungle. Unless tectonic plate moves under another. Usually a thin, heavy oceanic plate subducts, or moves under, a thicker continental plate. When this happens, the ocean plate sinks into the mantle. (This is off of google because I don't want to make a whole Paragraph about it.) My Point is: We are WAAAAY back in the past, the way before The Volcano was Created. Some how it managed to go back into the past, So in the future Weepings woods wouldn't exist. So if epic brought us back to the ORIGINAL Chapter 1 map (Not a wish.com version of it) There would be a Volcano Instead of The POI Called ''Weeping Woods''
Not to mention the fact there's a version of the Llama guy which is literally Havoc. Which was one of the first twitch prime skins in Chapter 1 Season 3.
Remember that trailer where Slone is talking about the Imagined Order's role in the Fortnite map? They showed a bunch of different games going on, so I think that there is multiple realities that we're shifting through, and that's why some things are the same and others are different. Like the OG locations and the robot arm and now the monster's skull. Tell me what you think
I think that what he mentioned at the start isn't true... the volcano tilted towers taco restaurant in greasy grove were brought by something...just showed up...So actually the chapter 2 map is the old map reinspired by the old map and the other side never changed just some of its stuff were copied in chapter 1
Condo canyon isn't in the same place as paradise palms. Chonkers speedway was in that location during chapter 1. Also in chapter 2, Pleasant Park and Retail Row were in the same spots
Another thing is the reason there isn’t any Moisty in the desert is because Moisty merged with the jungle that’s why the jungle is kinda swampy ya know?
i was thinking that meanwhile the chapter 2 map got updated, the chapter 1 map did along with it, we just weren’t there to experience the updates one by one
I don't think it's the og map first problem the map is called a completely different name It might be based off the chapter 1 map but some things just don't make sense and some locations do like how condo canyon is just paradise palms 2.0 and how chokers speedway is the go-kart track from the chapter 1 map but what about lazy lagoon why did the blackhole affect some locations but kit others why is sleepy sound even on the map based on the location just to many contradicting factors but if I'm wrong than hey I'm wrong
Its cuz during the end event, the zero point pretty much corrupted and used some of it's matter to create the chapter 2 map, that's why it looks so different and that is why some locations like pleasant park and retail is messing. Top of that the seven and the people freed from the loop has been operating the map while we were on the chapter 2 island. Pretty sure Donald mustard said this himself at one point.
Here’s a note: Loot lake this time prob won’t have the zero point,as wherever the middle of chapter 3 is.below it is the zero point,the flipped bridge,and chapter 2s middle isle
That when your wrong. In the end event for chapter 2 we seen the zero point in the middle and the look lake in the 3d map looks the same and that the middle of the map.
Im pretty sure we’re actually on the og map the monster bones can be seen being dug up and tilted just came back also I have a theory Klombo is from the zero point and he was rifted to the other side when the zero point sent us back to the primal ages
Amazing Theory, But I Just Want To Adjust Something. The Mecha VS Monster Part Is Kinda Wrong, And I Can Explain. The Mecha Arm Is In The Water Because It Got Thrown Of Into The Water During The Final Showdown Event. And The Places Where There Is Monster Proof, They Are Leaked Animals Coming Soon After The Snow Melts.
What is hope is that the broken planet is the Athena map or chapter 1 map because everyone wants the old map back and epic listens to their fans like “nerf the mechs!” They did that, when did build delay in season x and people didn’t like it the changed it back and in this season people were like “no build should be a permanent mode” they did that so they might and this is a very tiny chance to bring back the old map but like around it like the mountains could be broken or something like that or have loot lake and around there missing from the black hole
So basically when we were sucked into the black hole event we flipped onto the other side which is c2 map so while we was in chapter 2 the chapter 1 map aged
I think we are slowly going back to the old map and old guns. That would explain why epic games would add back some old locations it’s actually an indication that we might be getting the original stuff back
We people say bring back the old map, it's a shortcut of saying bring back old fortnite By that I mean; old physics engine. The new one is just not fitting and is bad; the old gun textures, they look weird honnestly; and most importantly all the same cities as before, not a complete overall of the map, we don't want 3 spots being in the same place as the old map and call it a day. edit: the item shop is just too big there are too many thing, as someone that came back recently to the game, i've been shocked at the amount of items there are in a single item shop, just no. AND the old UI looked better than this one
I think that in chapter 1, there was another map or an original version of chapter 2 map. When the end event occurred, we were pulled to the centre of all reality or Inbetween both maps. So when we were spat out on the other side of the map, where both maps were combined yet separated.
I disagree with this theory mainly because it ignores the fact that the canon is the chapter 1 map was rearranged by the black hole, which is why we had some old poi's return and some new ones created. (Not official) And most likely the black hole split the map into 2 which explains why both maps have older poi's Edit: Also the monster under the snow is seemingly way to small to be the same one from the season 9 live event. in the chapter 3 key art, you can see a new wildlife called buttercake (I believe) in the files, they also fit the size on the snow lump way more. buttercake also has a blow hole which could be the part of the snow that is making noise similar to breathing. Also remember how Kevin's floating island Counterpart was in Season X? That same Kevin was on the chapter 2 map under Kevolution Energy. we know this because it was the only Kevin that didn't fall from the sky. which means no poi was rifted from one map to the other. because there is two islands it had a 50/50 chance of being on one side or the other of both islands. Finally, I want to add that whatever island is "Right side up" (Currently the chapter 3 map) Is the one in the loop meaning chapter 2 is no longer in the loop and why the storm still exist. if the loop was still on the other side, the game probably would've become an Open World game lol Don't ask me why i decided to disprove this theory. I'm not sure at all
also i want to say, you said the racetrack on both maps are on the exact same spot please please PLEASE tell me you looked a both maps because that isn't true at all the racetrack in chapter 3 is bottom center and the racetrack in chapter 1 was center right
So to sum it up: after chapter 1 the origin point sent us to the other side of the island, then it sent us to the tribal age, then back to the original side again but things where different because it had been in the primal age and therefore was built a bit differently. *huh* Also the reason some same locations where on the flipped side was because they had been rifted in through the zero point.
I actually have a better Theory for this, which is that the OG Chapter 1 map also had another map beneath it and when The End happened both maps got merged together and made 2 other maps beneath each other and while we were on Chapter 2 The Flipside started evolving without us realising, the volcano transformed into the Daily Bugle, some old POIs that werent on the Chapter 2 Island were beneath, Heck even after that in S5 the Chapter 2 side started to merge a bit with the Flipside like with Salty Towers
Donald Mustard as actually stated that the atoms of the chapter 1 map re organized into the chapter 2 map which intern means that the chapter 3 map has a ton of the same atoms that chapter 1 map has which only happen to be in the same spots :)
Earlier in chapter 2 there were theories that the island was just in the past and all of the events are leading up to chapter one and that’s why when the black hole happened the loop reset and that’s why the OG locations were still there (most of them) so now that there are similarity’s in the map this could indeed be the chapter one map and we might see the OG map coming back soon
Honestly, when designing the Chapter 3 map, I think Epic was simply trying to invoke feelings of Chapter 1 within the map, to bring back the OGs who felt isolated during Chapter 2. Chapter 3 had an intentionally positive and welcoming vibe, with season names like Vibin and Paradise, and familiar locations brought back after so long. It truly felt like a celebration of both new and old, and then Chapter 4 busted in and was like "Yeah, party's over."
Until NOW 🤗
No chapter 4 was so good
@@lucasgamingplays1268it was good for about 2 weeks then turned shit
@@Ridic. cap
@@lucasgamingplays1268agreed
I feel like that this is the chapter 1 map but it's different mostly because of the black hole altering the matter on the map, and not really because of the primal age.
This could also explain why places like shifty shafts and risky reels are in different places because of the matter rearranging
@@thespacejumper1164 In a way, I'm not surprised I already knew that if epic were to ever bring back the old map they HAVE to change some things around. (Cuz the the new engine graphics and the chapter 2 map would be pointless if the game were to revert back to it's exact state it was in before)
@@thespacejumper1164 Plus, the whole purpose of the storyline is to escape “the loop”
@@thespacejumper1164 the chapter 2 confirmed to be the old map cuz it was just rearranged, risky isn’t really risky anymore so that’s supposed to be a “new poi” and the chapter 2 and chapter 3 map are connected
@@themysteryhedgehog5184 The chapter 2 map is NOT the chapter 3 or 1 map. this is bc of the way the zero point works. when we went in the blackhole we flipped onto the other side of the map so there for we were not on the chapter 1 map when we were on the chapter 2 map.
I personally agree with this theory, epic confirmed that the end event had the zero point rearrange the whole chapter 1 island into the chapter 2 island. And since the chapter 3 and chapter 2 island are somewhat connected, then the chapter 3 island is also the chapter 1 island rearranged. As said, the chapter 1 pois were on both islands.
CONFUSING COMMENT BUT OK
@@thecoolburger84 reread it
What my theory is that the chapter 1 island was all alone and when the black hole event happened the zero point created two islands and that’s why there are Same locations from the chapter 1 map to chapter 2 and 3 so that’s my theory.
@@monsterB0B it’s literally confirmed that the chapter 2 map is the chapter 1 map rearranged so your theory is wrong
I know that when I said this “the zero point created two islands” I meant to say was “the zero point rearranged the island into two islands” so sorry for the misunderstanding
Hey Guys! I am aware that their are actually dinosaurs under the map. I recorded this before that was uncovered. Apologies!
it was in the trailer lol
@@DietKodaCola not that they were frozen in the snow lol, for the first couple of days the thought was that it was the monster.
I think the chapter 1 island was actually split in half creating both chapter 2 and 3 which is why some locations and big structures from chapter 1 appear on chapter 2 and 3 this could also explain why there was an island under chapter 2 and possibly nothing under chapter 1
I assume when the island split the two parts formed into a full island
Personally, I think C1 had a flipside too, the zero point rearranged the map and some POI's. We just never discovered the flipside in C1.
This is my theory.
Exactly, the Zero Point after the live event split the Ch 1 Island into two separate Islands and then added New stuff into the mix to make the Ch 2 and Ch 3 Islands. It would also explain why the Ch 3 map is known as the ‘Flipside’.
More proof to add to this is by looking at the Ch 2 and 3 Codenames. If you Google “Greek Gods” you’ll see that there’s two gods “Apollo” and “Artemis” and it appears that these names are the exact codenames of the Ch 2 and 3 Island. Furthermore, if you search even deeper: you’ll see that both gods are actually twin siblings, implying that the Ch 2 and 3 maps are twin islands.
Yea I agree with this basically 2 maps were created
that could explain my question on how nutcracker's house is on this map
I love the chapter 3 map the most, it’s sad that we were only on it for barely a year.
fr tho so much potential
It’s much more like the older map and it’s obvious to Epic that everyone wants the old map back in some way. I imagine this is their way of doing it. Creating a map reminiscent of the Chapter 1 map while still having it be new and fresh. I like where this chapter is going.
I missed when fortnite was a abandoned island with the apocalyptic feel and the buildings looked destroyed
The music in the video is scaring me
Donald Mustard confirmed that the chapter 2 island was just the chapter 1 island rearranged by the zero point. The zero point had created two islands; one above it and one below it for protection on all angles. This is why we see places like Pleasant park, retail row and salty springs on chapter 2, but not on chapter 3. This is also why we do not see anything from chapter 2 on the Chapter 3 map. Instead, it is just all the remaining matter from chapter 1 that we did not see in chapter 2 such as Greasy grove or the volcano. However I do not think that it is the chapter 1 map, but instead both chapter 2 and 3 are the result of the zero point rearranging its matter.
Correction: He said the chapter 2 map, not the chapter 2 side of the map. Maybe he was referring to the flipside of the map that the chapter 3 side of the chapter 2 map is re-arranged.
Quick Explanation: Chapter 1 had its matter reorganized at the end of Season X, then we got sent to the other side of the map, being Chapter 2, at the end of Chapter 2, we were sent back to our timeline, where much of the biomes changed due to matter reorganization. however, places like the Racetrack, Tilted, Sunny Steps, the Volcano, Loot Lake, and other items returning, with even the Zero Point in the same area. The rebuilding of the Chapter 3 map was by those who escaped the loop, a goal of Midas.
When the zero point exploded/imploded it reformed the current reality into the two sides the reasoning for it creating two sides is because it would be more protected, the chapter three map just contains more of our previous island than the other side
The developers of the game confirmed that the matter of the chapter 2 and chapter 3 map are literally parts of the chapter 1 map reatomized
Ikr, this video is just filled with bull crap
@@tomatotwin_ indeed
finally, somebody understands
THANK YOU!!!! THANK YOU!!! SOME PEOPLE FINALLY GET IT!
yeah
The arm is not from the monster winning to the mech, it’s when the monster bit the arm of the mech, and threw it in the water, it’s at the exact same spot of where the monster threw it. And this monster vs mech event was way back at Chapter 1, so most likely we are in the chapter 1 map.
I LITERALLY MADE THIS THEORY RIGHT WHEN IT CAME OUT THAT THE CHAPTER 1 MAP IS THE CHAPTER 3 MAP BUT MORE EVOLVED
Wow this is crazy, you did a great job at explaining that
I appreciate that!!
@@crenbeast Mr Ben is absolutely correct
No he didn’t
I agree
@@crenbeast your theory is very flawed, i commented my theory ridding it of all flaws
Edit: no offence, just saying I found a few flaws. How about you make another video and explain the same but with the added points from my video?
This is probably the best theory I've heard so far. My theory is that the flip side existed during chapter 1 which means that the chapter 2 map already existed, just on the other side. And during the end event, the entire map encluding the flip side part got sucked in, and the zero point had to try and fix everything before people could escape the loop. Which is why on the new map, we ended up with 3 on locations since it probably didn't have enough time to reconstruct them into something new. And when we got fliped a second time, all of the stuff the zero point didn't reconstruct into chapter 2 was there. And you might be asking,"Then why was tilted in chapter 2?" And I'm here to say that it was there because it got rifted in from a past loop. And you also might be asking, "If the the other side if just stuff the zero point didn't reconstruct, then why is the monster from the live event under the snow?" And the answer to that is that it is the weird dinasour thing you could see in the chapter 3 trailer. Even more proof is that during the marvel season, you could get And achievement called thwip referencing Spiderman wich means that spider man was in the loop, but the zero point couldn't rift it onto the normal side so it just put it with the rest of the stuff it didn't use. The dino bois that we will see later in the season are also just unused creature in hibernation since they were meant for the primal season with the rapter bois but the zero point also couldn't rift them in so it just sent them to the flip side.
Makes a lot of sense but I have and Idea in season 5 not only we got Tilted but Durrr burger, Flush and Tomato building. My theory is that they got rifted from the other side which was chapter 1 season 4 or early 5 the they got rifted there and the story continues on the flipside which eventually becomes chapter 3. Which makes a lot of sense bc then the story would be normal and the chapter 1 island ends on season X then bc of the primal age a lot of the stuff got reset and had to be build back from scratch and that is how I think the chapter 3 happened
dusty depot and the factories weren't there on chapter 3 maybe they got rifted and merged to create dirty docks on chapter 2
@@minipz9thebastfiiter509 Makes sense bc blue warehouse was literally there and there was a smaller version of the grey one and then the red one returned in season 5 btw what is your favorite location of all time mine has to be Greasy Grove
@@thefiresharkbg5076 all the warehouses weren't there in chapter 3 fun fact
@Joseph Lenard Makes sense buddy I put mine a upper than your you can read it if you want
You should definitely make another video on how the OG map is back and expand on this theory
I think the ‘storyline’ explanation is as follows:
Fortnite chapter 1 had a flipside like how chapter 2 and chapter 3 were connected, during the end event the island was all mixed up so chapter 2 had some aspects of chapter 1 and some from chapter 1’s flipside. Chapter 3 was a mix of the rest of the chapter 1 map that chapter 2 didn’t have and the rest of chapter 1’s flipside.
Basically like a two sided puzzle that got mixed up and got put back together differently.
that's what i think apart from chapter 1 having a flipside. I believe a few places from chapter one went to chapter 2, like retail, pleasant while the majority layed on chapter 3, the terrain, volcano, tilted, and everything else
I hope Epic takes advantage of the time travel theme in the story and brings back the old map. I think the best maps were the Seasons 4 and 5 maps. Not only does it fit in with the storyline of the game, but it's good for marketing as a ton of people would come back to the game and the community would love it.
Thats what I’am saying
Facts
exactly and it makes sense from a development standpoints, they can do that so they can see how they improved and re-do fortnite, but now with more experience in making the terrain and other stuff.
They're already brining back older grass colours, water ripple effects.
They just need to re-do fortnite, older graphics mixed with modern ones, more optimized for lower budget pc players and better features to fix past mistakes in how they made the map back in chapter 1.
I'm surprised they haven't made a back to the future collab
Nah the season 7 map was the best IDC
So, I interpreted this theory as:
At the end of Chapter 1, the island was rearranged and split in two to form Apollo and Artemis (Chapter 2 island and Chapter 3 island respectively).
We were teleported to the other side of the island (Chapter 2). While we were playing in CH2, the remnants of the chapter 1 island (where most of the OG terrain and POIs were left behind) slowly changed and evolved into the chapter 3 island.
When the island flipped at the end of Chapter 2, we were sent back to the former chapter 1 island, which had already evolved into the chapter 3 island.
Did I get it?
I agree
You are completely right the zero point rearranged the island
not the real story but the zero point making this from rearanging the ch1 island is said by the creators as true but actually the zero point didn't send us to the ch2 island the io flipped the island before we got there otherwise we will have ch2 on ch3 island
My personal theory is that there was a map below the chapter 1 map that we’ve never seen, when the Zero Point blew up it reforged these islands into two new ones using pieces from both islands, this is the reason that there’s chapter 1 locations in chapter 2 and some never before seen locations in chapter 3, my other theory is that the chapter 5 map could be the flip side of chapter 1 and that could have some of the locations, but since the event isn’t for like another 12 hours we’ll have to wait and see
No
@@YuniclyYTproof?
I think the actual canon might be:-
1. The zero point destroys ch1 island and uses some of it with more matter to make ch2 island
2. It takes the remaining matter and puts it back with some new matter to make ch3 island
3. The IO flips the island to the ch2 side
4. We flip it back to ch3 island
It was super disappointing to see chapter 3 go after only 4 seasons. It had the second best map out of all four of them and I feel like it was so a missed opportunity to expand on that map.
This is interesting seeing about 2 years on, with the OG map back and about to end again in the Big Bang Event. You mentioned something about time, which is how we returned to chapter 1's map
I mean I'm in chapter 4 rn, but back then when the snow disappeared in chapter 3 you could see it was extremely similar to the chapter 1 map, but some things and poi's were not in the same place, maybe because they were either rebuilt or the black hole changed and altered the way the map looks. So basically, I agree 👍
No, black holes do not destroy anything, they just re arrange things, in this case, the black hole re arranged the chapter 1 map
I think what happened is:
After the black hole, most of the stuff from the CH.1 map were coming together to make the Chapter 3 map.
However, I.O was using their Gyro system and turned the island down to the water.
The rest of the stuff that came together (Like Pleasant, Salty, and Retail) made the Chapter 2 map, which didn't have as much O.G stuff as Chapter 3.
This is my theory for Chapters 2 and 3.
honestly I thought that when the black hole rearranged the island, it ended up taking places like logjam, sleepy sound (as a town), camp cuddle and ripping them out of chapter 2 and replacing them with retail row, pleasant park and salty springs. Lonely lodge got ripped out of the chapter 1 map, creating the ch 3 beach area and Weeping Woods, and junk junction and dusty got ripped apart to form dirty docks. Then, during chapter 2 season 5, the zero point altered the chapter 1 map’s geography drastically, turning it into what we have now. Pressure Plant was erased and became a huge lake, and Tomato town was added back as Coney Crossroads, while the Viking mountain became the mountain where Covert Cavern was.
I hope it slowly does go back to how the old map looked and it would demonstrate your theory that the events on the Island are all out of order. One day development will end on Fortnite BR so it might make sense if all three maps rotate as part of the main story of Fortnite, as it is a loop.
Maybe extra land was underneath
And another island grew on the other Side
1:Zero after season 6,He grabbed the og map and the land underneath,then squished it down, straightening up the matter.
The chapter 2 and chapter 3 maps are twin anomalies. Each side of the island has completely different POIs to each other because only one side of the island can hold one poi at on time. So basically when we were sucked into the black hole matter was reorganized by the zero point into two separate islands that held every poi that was on chapter 1 just on two different islands this time
Isn’t Agent Jones on the Seven’s side?
Also, remember, the zero point rearranged the island to create the chapter 2 island, which could mean that the OG locations on both the Chapter 2 and Chapter 3 map were placed there by the Zero Point
Bro got all that right, just not at the right time😂😂😂
It looks like fortnite's story is coming to an end, by showing a full loop. Going back to chapter one by rebuilding it, which means they'd have to make the zero point intact again, resulting in memory wipes, and thus perpetuating the everlasting cycle of fortnite.
Bout time lol.
Omg a memory wipe would be so cool! Just starting all of chapter 1 all over. Adding the same stuff. It sounds a bit boring but I'm sure so many people would love to play the old map again with the old mechanics. The menu better changes too, cause this item shop and battlepass menus are absolute dogshit
Ofc this gets recommended in chapter 5
i think that the chapter 1 island never had a flip side and it was just an island. But during the black hole event all the matter got rearranged around the zero point creating two islands, both with chapter one aspects.
I would say this is a really good theory. Technically this is a theory for both sides however as it was confirmed that the chapter 1 can't return as when the zero point imploded it took the chapter 1 map and rearranged it. Not to mention that during the C2 End event the gyro system was actually on meaning the C3 map was actually the original non-flipped island.
Makes you wonder, was there another side for chapter 1? Probably but we never got to experience it. I would guess that all of those new locations on C2 and C3 probably were on the flipside of C1 if there was one. I'm sorry for the long comment.
Edit: damn if only I knew
I like the idea that some or all of the new locations from chapter 2 and 3 were from the chapter 1 flipside. That would make sense since the zero point rearanged the matter from chapter 1, and as matter can never be created or destroyed the new POI's had to come from somewhere, right? Anyways, good comment!
I highly doubt that the Chapter 1 Island had a flipside, as the Island was much taller, and probably would have been too thick to flip.
This aged like fine 2 percent milk.
@@inkmembrane truly did, it truly did.
Can’t believe you predicted chaptar one was coming back
This is the most accurate theory I’ve seen so far
it’s not accurate whatsoever
@@jp-zp3ds I don't get why people like u have to be so dense.. on the official epic games website they basically confirm that the chapter 3 island isn't new. It only SEEMS that way.
@@Cosmicmorales No, the island isn’t new exactly. It’s just reformed matter from both sides of the chapter 1 island. Donald Mustard himself confirmed it. It seems that large clumps of matter still managed to remain hence why there’s some old poi’s.. and why the other old poi’s from the chapter 2 map isn’t here either. And also, Season 6 wasn’t us being sent back in time.. the reason it was primal was because of a reality wave, which is explained during the intro. There’s A LOT more holes in this theory but just the beginning statement itself extremely debunks this
@@jp-zp3ds He may have worded it wrong yeah, but that's basically what he meant.
@@Cosmicmorales no im pretty sure he said its because the island was put into the primal age. Nothing to do with the actual answer
i feel like Fortnite will begin, and end in chapter 1 style, once we go back to Chapter 1 map again, the lore will end, and the game will too
I liked the storyline of chapter 1 wayyy more than the new storyline. It had better map updates, talking about all the excavator sites and stuff, it introduced way better POIs, talking about Polar Peak, the volcano
Sleepy sound is actually Motel from charter 1 + craggy cliffs from charter 2
then what happened to the Lazy lagoon
edit: maybe its on the other side now because Craggy Cliffs is over here on Chapter 1/3 island
The lava was sucked up into the black hole maybe that’s why there’s no lava in chapter 3
6:11 Am confused at this part. This was the robot part when the Cattis ripped it off, throwing into the same spot in season 9. And also the monster beneath the snow was a little monster and not the cattis monster. But I’ll say I respect your own opinion.
Right! We are back on the chapter one map, which is how the arm is there. In my theory, some things stayed the same while other things changed because of us going back to the primal age. Just a theory though :) also, correct. I recorded this before the buttercake dinosaur was uncovered to be under the snow. My bad!
@@crenbeast it alright my guy. I kinda knew that this was before when the dinosaur was known but great explanation though! 😁
@@BWStudios2001 Fair enough! I do mostly theories and stuff over on Tik Tok with some other guys, and none of us realized that. We were a little slow hahaa
If your wondering why Shifty Shafts was moved above Loot Lake it’s probably because The Black Hole decided Shifty Shafts needs to spin right round
My theory:
When we got sucked into Loot Lake in Chapter 1s end event, we were brought under the chapter 1 map, which was the chapter 2 map.
While we were on chapter 2, the Zero Point was left to rearrange the chapter 1 map and make it completely different.
So when the island flipped during the Chapter 2 end event, it revealed Chapter 1 but rearranged. (Chapter 3.)
Correct.
I hope your right about us going back to the old map with the old items, that was the fun fortnite. Also I hope we get the old cartoony aesthetic because while I was watching I realized how much better and gray and colorful the old map was. Including old storm
@xdechoo457 yeah but I still like having the old guns and map back I’ve had so many good memories of it
Same, they are already bringing back older grass colours and cartoonier water ripples. Just hope that they combined their all best skills to make an optimized og style, but with good terrain making and props.
But defo bring back more optimized lighting and graphics.
Since chapter 2 and chapter 3 are connected in the same island, and the chapter 1 pois are in chapter 2 and 3 island, this could mean that the chapter 1 is indeed in the same island, but matched with chapter 2 and chapter 3 map.
My theory is that chapter 1 got sucked into the black hole to shut down the loop but it rebooted the chapter 1 map and scattered a few pois in the season X map to chapter 2 and the remaining to the flip side. like Viking mountain and snobby were on chapter 2. The Cube rift zone was remade into steamy and the remaining are on the flip side
little does this guy know he just predicted chapter 4 and chpater og
My mind just exploded because of how much information you just gave to us thank you so much now I understand the Theory👍👏😊😎
I think basically the end event reorganized matter into 2 different maps, it explains why there was some og POIs in chapter 2, and some in chapter 3
Theory: Since It was confirmed the chapter 2 map, was the map created by the chapter one map, that means this entire island was made by the chapter 1 map so chapter 3 is also made by chapter one. Evidence: both chapter 2 and 3 both have chapter 1 poi's. The chapter 1 map was split into 2 islands. OR the chapter one map had 2 side.
I think the c1 map had 2 sides, with the c1 map becomming c3, and the c2 map being the flipside of c1. And the zero point rearranged somethings with the POI's and landscape!
Chapter 2 is name Apollo but I forgotten chapter 3 name, but in real terms means twin gods, that's why chapter 3 was under chapter 2
the chapter 1 map having 2 sides seems more reasonable to me. for example, the new pois that appeared in ch 2 season 1. the new stuff in chapter 3 could just be stuff that happened on ch 1's flipside as well.
IT MAKES SENSE! When we time traveled to OG fortnite, we were on the chapter 4 side, we were on the same side as chapter 3 because no flip. We time traveled to chapter 1 because we never swapped sides! I predict chapter 5 will be on the opposite side
that doesn't really make sense, as we see the chapter 2 and 3 maps exploding into chunks, scattered around space when in the fact explosion the distance of the two are so small that they would just be mixed together
a lot ppl are pointing out now that the chapter 5 map looks like a rearranged chapter 2 map aswell so it makes sense.
I was thinking that too!
This is what I told my friend few days ago when I thought about this.
“I just thought something. So the zero point reformed the chapter one map and made the chapter 2 map.
I’m thinking that it reformed and made two maps. The chapter 2 and 3 one on opposite sides.
That’s why we see the old volcano, greasy, loot lake, sunny steps, shifty shafts, etc on the chpt 3 map.
That’s why we don’t see them in the Chpt 2 map, since it reformed into 2 maps. With half the chpt 1 locations on the 2nd and other half on the 3rd map.
Sorry if you get eye aids from reading this”
nah, I didn't
This is exactly my theory
Same. I thought of that too
pretty sure this is confirmed by devs. ch1 matter was reorganized into the ch2 and 3 maps. matter cant be created or destroyed, people.
we didnt flip at the end event, the energy of the chapter 1 map got sucked into the blackhole and it scattered on both sides of the new map, this is why retail row and pleasant park are on the other side of the map then were greasy grove and tilted towers are, time didn't pass by in the moment of downtime between season x and chapter 2 because nothing existed due to the zero point not being there, no zero point = no map, no time, no people, nothing exists without the zero point
I feel like old guns and locations are gonna start coming back slowly, starting with the clingers 😳
@@Retracted-t1z cringe
@@korokunknown4934 how is that cringe stfu
Seeing this now, knowing about how chapter 4 wasn't planned and that the og season was originally going to happen at the end of chapter 3, it makes so much sense.
too bad i cant hear the theory over this music
Bro predicted chapter 4 season 5
I've had the same theory, but you did such a good job of explaining. 👍
same ive been thinking this same thing the second i saw the c3 map
Now we are back on the chapter 1 map but the timeline is messed up
Chapter 4 might be a whole reset once again, I'm predicting the 7 are just gonna tinker with the zero point once again, chapter 1 style and reset the island and we will have chapter 1 all over again, but it will just be different, maybe better.
We might just go through the same map updates etc. but now that epic has more feedback, it might just be way better, the terrain will be built in the newer way but still the same layout. It's slowly being hinted, epic are even bringing back the older style of graphics and features a bit, especially the cartoony water ripples are back, grass isn't as bright again.
Etc. The chapter 3 island might also be the far future of the first island cuz the volcano is completely done, robot is gone and there's the seven who made their own base, so they might reset this all over again and we will progress through chapter 1 once again, just differently. From Epic's standpoint, this might also just be a re-do of fortnite, seeing how they improved on updating the game and their choices on what to add and the art style, a lot of people criticized the art style that fortnite was going towards. We might get older graphics that are more optimized mixed with the more modern fortnite features like terrain and tress combined with older more optimized trees and maybe more features in the settings or players with lower budget PCs. They took away building to maybe let some players back in to be interested in fortnite once again and it worked. So this might be a really good decision, nostalgic and fresh at the same time cuz it's basically like an alternate version of the first island's history.
I just wanna see the meteor again, we might get a different member of the 7 in the meteor this time instead of visitor, the meteor might land somewhere else, maybe actually destroying tilted. And we might see the rocket launch event again, would be amazing.
That aged well…
6:22
But remember in the event in season 9 the robots arm was torn off explaining why its in the water and there was a dinosaur in the trailer so i think that is what is under the snow
Yo, so hype to see where this chapter goes!!
Same hehe
I’m staring to believe this cuz parts of the og map are starting to come back to the chpt 3 map like loot lake,tilted towers,shifty shafts,and greasy grove but I think it’s not the same map but instead the old map is coming back
Back in season x, we theorized that we traveled back in time resulting in Chapter 2 map. Now this could be a way to figure it out what was like before the chapter 1. Now, if the chapter 3 map is indeed the same one as the chapter 1 map, that means when we are in Chapter 2, the other Island was under the map. The foundation also said something about we are the "loopers". There was a part in the last event when they called us "loopers" instead of people or something like that. We are the "loopers" that are stuck in this reality and when we are free once and for all, it is finished.
He literally explained what Loopers were, they are people who enter the Loop, which like he explained, a way to protect and seal the Zero Point backed up by The Storm which loops every 20 minutes, erases your memories and such
@@xxj._minty yes
I also agree with you,because there's a lot of reasons, 1 is chapter 3 seems like chapter 1 and everything else about it also tells about the simalrities
My friend and I had the same theory
You and your friend seem smart
If you look closely at tilted towers it looks like the monster from chapter 1 season 9
I recently noticed the new location Logjam Junction has a very similar name to an old location. This old location is Junk Junction. Not only is the name similar, it is in the exact same spot that junk junction once was.
You see, the black hole event jumbled up the map and some places are gone and some survived. Seeing as there are 2 sides to the island, POIs from this chapter and last chapter may have been under the chapter 1 map this whole time.
what i am assuming is that for chapter 4 or sometime in chapter 3 they will combine both maps and initiate a merging and get the old map back
I personally agree with this theory. But if they had to rebuild the island. Wouldn't Moisty mire and Weeping woods be back in the map? Back then we didn't have the Volcano nor Desert. and wouldn't POI's like Flush factory and Anarchy Acres be back? Since we didn't have the Snow or Jungle Biomes. And Also Lazy Links wasn't there at the time.
Also A Big Mysteries is:
What happened to Snobby Shores, Haunted Hills, Flush Factory, Anarchy Acres Weeping Woods, Fatal Fields, Junk Junction, The Block, Tomato Town, Lonely Lodge, Dusty Depot/Dusty Divot (And other POI's) and where are they now?
How did the Jungle Biome Get here?
We know that Moisty Mires was replaced due to The Crack merging Realities.
But after that, How did The volcano, Sunny Steps and Lazy Lagoon Get into the Chapter 1 Map.
What Happened To Happy Hamlet and Frosty Flights?
Why did the Water in the Chapter 1 map kill you and not kill you in Chapter 2 or 3?
I think its because many things got destroyed and got overtook by nature.
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@@NikoK2606 That Doesn't make sense. A Volcano doesn't just doesn't appear in a middle of a Jungle. Unless tectonic plate moves under another. Usually a thin, heavy oceanic plate subducts, or moves under, a thicker continental plate. When this happens, the ocean plate sinks into the mantle. (This is off of google because I don't want to make a whole Paragraph about it.) My Point is: We are WAAAAY back in the past, the way before The Volcano was Created. Some how it managed to go back into the past, So in the future Weepings woods wouldn't exist. So if epic brought us back to the ORIGINAL Chapter 1 map (Not a wish.com version of it) There would be a Volcano Instead of The POI Called ''Weeping Woods''
@@dnzzzz the prisoner created the biome
It wasn't weeping woods, it was wailing woods.
Not to mention the fact there's a version of the Llama guy which is literally Havoc. Which was one of the first twitch prime skins in Chapter 1 Season 3.
Remember that trailer where Slone is talking about the Imagined Order's role in the Fortnite map? They showed a bunch of different games going on, so I think that there is multiple realities that we're shifting through, and that's why some things are the same and others are different. Like the OG locations and the robot arm and now the monster's skull. Tell me what you think
Everytime the Zero Point is exposed a new chapter starts.
I almost Immediately put two and two together when i first landed at the loot lake landmark.
I think that what he mentioned at the start isn't true... the volcano tilted towers taco restaurant in greasy grove were brought by something...just showed up...So actually the chapter 2 map is the old map reinspired by the old map and the other side never changed just some of its stuff were copied in chapter 1
Zero point rearrange the atoms of the island to protect itself, thus chapter 2 and 3 island
Condo canyon isn't in the same place as paradise palms. Chonkers speedway was in that location during chapter 1. Also in chapter 2, Pleasant Park and Retail Row were in the same spots
You can also see a bit of coral castle before coral castle existed and if the map flipped that’s around where coral castle WOULD be
Another thing is the reason there isn’t any Moisty in the desert is because Moisty merged with the jungle that’s why the jungle is kinda swampy ya know?
Fun fact: the place above tilted on the “new” map (the lake) is actually named loot lake as its landmark name
yea it even has challenges too
i was thinking that meanwhile the chapter 2 map got updated, the chapter 1 map did along with it, we just weren’t there to experience the updates one by one
I don't think it's the og map first problem the map is called a completely different name It might be based off the chapter 1 map but some things just don't make sense and some locations do like how condo canyon is just paradise palms 2.0 and how chokers speedway is the go-kart track from the chapter 1 map but what about lazy lagoon why did the blackhole affect some locations but kit others why is sleepy sound even on the map based on the location just to many contradicting factors but if I'm wrong than hey I'm wrong
Its cuz during the end event, the zero point pretty much corrupted and used some of it's matter to create the chapter 2 map, that's why it looks so different and that is why some locations like pleasant park and retail is messing. Top of that the seven and the people freed from the loop has been operating the map while we were on the chapter 2 island. Pretty sure Donald mustard said this himself at one point.
Here’s a note:
Loot lake this time prob won’t have the zero point,as wherever the middle of chapter 3 is.below it is the zero point,the flipped bridge,and chapter 2s middle isle
That when your wrong. In the end event for chapter 2 we seen the zero point in the middle and the look lake in the 3d map looks the same and that the middle of the map.
@@phyllisahrens693look at chapter 2 before the zero point desert,then,overlay it with chapter 3
@@0gamer2000 i did but they both dont look the same
chapter 1, 2 and 3 had the flip side. Chapter 4 was the first chapter that removed that.
Im pretty sure we’re actually on the og map the monster bones can be seen being dug up and tilted just came back also I have a theory Klombo is from the zero point and he was rifted to the other side when the zero point sent us back to the primal ages
Amazing Theory, But I Just Want To Adjust Something. The Mecha VS Monster Part Is Kinda Wrong, And I Can Explain. The Mecha Arm Is In The Water Because It Got Thrown Of Into The Water During The Final Showdown Event. And The Places Where There Is Monster Proof, They Are Leaked Animals Coming Soon After The Snow Melts.
What is hope is that the broken planet is the Athena map or chapter 1 map because everyone wants the old map back and epic listens to their fans like “nerf the mechs!” They did that, when did build delay in season x and people didn’t like it the changed it back and in this season people were like “no build should be a permanent mode” they did that so they might and this is a very tiny chance to bring back the old map but like around it like the mountains could be broken or something like that or have loot lake and around there missing from the black hole
So basically when we were sucked into the black hole event we flipped onto the other side which is c2 map so while we was in chapter 2 the chapter 1 map aged
I think we are slowly going back to the old map and old guns. That would explain why epic games would add back some old locations it’s actually an indication that we might be getting the original stuff back
Chapter 3 season 1 is my favourite map of all time so far, let’s see if chapter 5 can beat it.
We people say bring back the old map, it's a shortcut of saying bring back old fortnite
By that I mean; old physics engine. The new one is just not fitting and is bad; the old gun textures, they look weird honnestly; and most importantly all the same cities as before, not a complete overall of the map, we don't want 3 spots being in the same place as the old map and call it a day.
edit: the item shop is just too big there are too many thing, as someone that came back recently to the game, i've been shocked at the amount of items there are in a single item shop, just no.
AND the old UI looked better than this one
I think that in chapter 1, there was another map or an original version of chapter 2 map. When the end event occurred, we were pulled to the centre of all reality or Inbetween both maps. So when we were spat out on the other side of the map, where both maps were combined yet separated.
good theory, thats what i think happened
@@Totally_Bonkers damn, I'm surprised you could understand it because it was poorly explained
I disagree with this theory mainly because it ignores the fact that the canon is
the chapter 1 map was rearranged by the black hole, which is why we had some old poi's return and some new ones created. (Not official) And most likely the black hole split the map into 2 which explains why both maps have older poi's
Edit: Also the monster under the snow is seemingly way to small to be the same one from the season 9 live event.
in the chapter 3 key art, you can see a new wildlife called buttercake (I believe) in the files, they also fit the size on the snow lump way more. buttercake also has a blow hole which could be the part of the snow that is making noise similar to breathing.
Also remember how Kevin's floating island Counterpart was in Season X? That same Kevin was on the chapter 2 map under Kevolution Energy. we know this because it was the only Kevin that didn't fall from the sky.
which means no poi was rifted from one map to the other. because there is two islands it had a 50/50 chance of being on one side or the other of both islands.
Finally, I want to add that whatever island is "Right side up" (Currently the chapter 3 map) Is the one in the loop
meaning chapter 2 is no longer in the loop and why the storm still exist. if the loop was still on the other side, the game probably would've become an Open World game lol
Don't ask me why i decided to disprove this theory. I'm not sure at all
also i want to say, you said the racetrack on both maps are on the exact same spot
please please PLEASE tell me you looked a both maps because that isn't true at all
the racetrack in chapter 3 is bottom center and the racetrack in chapter 1 was center right
So to sum it up: after chapter 1 the origin point sent us to the other side of the island, then it sent us to the tribal age, then back to the original side again but things where different because it had been in the primal age and therefore was built a bit differently. *huh*
Also the reason some same locations where on the flipped side was because they had been rifted in through the zero point.
I actually have a better Theory for this, which is that the OG Chapter 1 map also had another map beneath it and when The End happened both maps got merged together and made 2 other maps beneath each other and while we were on Chapter 2 The Flipside started evolving without us realising, the volcano transformed into the Daily Bugle, some old POIs that werent on the Chapter 2 Island were beneath, Heck even after that in S5 the Chapter 2 side started to merge a bit with the Flipside like with Salty Towers
Donald Mustard as actually stated that the atoms of the chapter 1 map re organized into the chapter 2 map which intern means that the chapter 3 map has a ton of the same atoms that chapter 1 map has which only happen to be in the same spots :)
Earlier in chapter 2 there were theories that the island was just in the past and all of the events are leading up to chapter one and that’s why when the black hole happened the loop reset and that’s why the OG locations were still there (most of them) so now that there are similarity’s in the map this could indeed be the chapter one map and we might see the OG map coming back soon
Chapter 2 and 3 aren't before Chapter 1.
Donald Mustard confirmed it himself and Doctor Slone said it herself too.
Confirmed the island is just rearranged bits of the old map, but I agree Chapter 3 is very similar.