Thank you for your obsession with RWRB and putting it under the microscope a bit, which adds richly to our enjoyment. Matthew Lopez did say in an interview that he worked on this movie for two years and searched tirelessly for his two leads, so maybe all that was indicative of the multi textured movie he planned for us. Can’t wait for Parts 2-5. Thanks!
I've grown so obsessed (in a good way) with this movie. We do tend to overlook a book, play, or movie which at face value is funny and cheesy and plays off common tropes. But that is the best way to entice people to experience it, and hopefully they will continue to delve further into it. As the jester Jack Point says in Gilbert & Sullivan's Yeoman of the Guard: "For he who'd make his fellow, fellow, fellow creatures wise Should always gild the philosophic pill!"
I love your analysis!! In one of the deleted scenes, at night by the campfire, Alex asks Henry why he had told him that he shouldn't fall in love with him. Henry tells him in the form of a fairy tale about the prince who wore an armor that the king gave him for protection, and by wearing it he lost his freedom. When he met the devastatingly handsome peasant boy (Alex), he felt truly alive for the first time in his life. That peasant boy made that armor fall little by little until only the piece that covered his heart remained. The next day is when Alex tries to declare his love, that makes Henry jumps into the water, holding his hands to his chest because the last piece of that armor had finally fallen. This whole scene shows us, as you say in your analysis, how Alex's perspective towards Henry changed from resentment and hatred to deeper love, because he had the ability to see under all those layers the true nature of Henry, not the snobbish image. What he knew but something deeper, more human and sweet than he could have imagined.
Another unnoticed tidbit... Phillip is marrying his childhood sweetheart "Martha Fitzroy". Fitzroy is the traditional surname for the King's children by his mistresses, so Martha and Phillip are probably cousins.
This is precisely the breakdown I have always needed for this film Thank you! I should add another layer to the story of David. A place to hide behind the choice of his name, yet impress others. Henry is Prince Henry of Wales. St David is the patron Saint of Wales (St. David's Day March 1) it could easily be assumed David's name is royal and tradition coded.
That is a great point! And I bet Casey had the connection in mind in writing the book, since Henry is called "Prince of Wales" in the book. That phrase didn't make it into the movie, possibly in part because it is not strictly accurate -- only one person at a given time can be called the "Prince of Wales," and that is the eldest son and heir apparent to the reigning monarch. So Henry wouldn't be called "Prince of Wales" unless something bad happened to both the current monarch and Philip. One can hope.
@@Historiansplaining There is a LOT of Britpicking that should have been done in the proof edit and wasn't (am English, don't get me started) Henry is a very deep and complex character, finessed by Galitzine, whose own background feeds subliminably: his and Lopez' take on Henry had tremendous depth, and is a major contribution to the success and dimension of the film.
I'm glad you brought up the "darkness" in the film, especially as regards to Henry's character. I think the word you used, "tormented" is the perfect word to describe him. As I've read the book and watched the film, both multiple times, it's very clear that Henry has been deeply depressed for a long time. The lack of control and agency over his own life has put him into a pretty constant state of despair and resignation. So much so, that even by the time of the novel and/or the film, he has lost much of his will to fight his circumstances and stand up for himself, even though he's still a very young man. He's also very isolated as a character. Before Alex, the only people he seems close to are his sister and his friend Pez. He seems ill at ease around most other people his own age. You almost get the sense that had this string of events not happened (as improbable as they might be) he may have been headed down an even darker and more self-destructive path. How long could he have lasted in that constant state of despair and loneliness is the question for me. What would his life have been like if he hadn't formed a relationship with Alex and eventually gathered the strength to grasp his own happiness and self-determination? I like this contrast that's sort of lurking in the background of the film. They never say out loud that Henry is depressed, but it comes through in his words, his reactions, and his facial expressions.
One of the best - no the best, discussion of this movie I have experienced. Thank you. As a sort of intelligent well educated person, I thought I was going nuts for rewatching and enjoying so much this sometimes cheesy - in parts - film. I am an older lesbian who was shocked there was even a positive ending, and surprised about many many good things in this movie. I watch it when I want to feel less anxious about life. Weird? You helped me feel not so crazy about this. Again thanks for your intelligent thoughts.
Thank you! I agree with all you said even though I had no realization of much of it! This is why the book & the film were entertaining enough to make me want to read & watch each several times. I encouraged family & friends to watch the film, also.
I am a huge fan of this movie. I really enjoyed your analysis of the movie. It definitely got me to think about many aspects of the movie in a different way. I look forward to more of your content.
I adore this type of work. Deeply analyzing things that get dismissed just because its popular, or not the right genre. The cinematography is brilliant. Not only making the most of the budget, but really using the space as its own character.
RWRB is my favorite book, and while I can pick on the movie a bit for the ways it doesn’t hold up, I love your analysis that provides more depth to the story, much of which is more subtlety conveyed through the film. I love what you said about treating the movie as serious and genuine in your analysis instead of ironically like we often tend to look at romcoms. It’s almost treating it as sacred, honoring every part of the art as intentional and seeing what deeper meaning we can find. I love it. Look forward to the whole series!
This is BRILLIANT! As a RW and RB addict, I LOVE this. Like others, I've lost count of the number of times that I've watched this movie because I know that every time I watch it, there's something new that reveals itself. It's also my "go to" feel good movie whenever I'm feeling "off", or, whenever I have 2 hours to do nothing else except watch and enjoy.
Wow, amazing video friend! TH-cam voodoo somehow sent your channel in my direction and I'm gobsmacked. As a genX gay, im obsessed with the new trend of lighthearted, fairly wholesome and mostly untraumatic gay media. I also have a degree in history with focus on bronze age civilization, but love almost all non American history. I will now be enjoying my new favorite channel, lots to catch up on. Thanks for all your hard work, it's appreciated out here in the world.
Your video is something I’ve really been wishing for, and I’m looking forward to the later episodes. You mention Heartstopper as being cute and sappy. While I will agree that the tone is overwhelmingly positive, I think it has its darker side as well, not that much less than RWRB. If you haven’t seen the second season of HS it is much more serious and mature than season 1. The rest I agree with you, a PG high school romance is quite a different beast than an R adult movie, and does make RWRB a movie that is pretty unique.
Thank you so much for making this! I love it and I actually can’t believe I haven’t stumbled upon this video until now. I’ve loved the RWRB book since 2020 and was properly obsessed with the movie around the time it came out last year (and still love it now). I love reading and listing to other’s analysis of it too, and I love how in depth this was. I’ve already spent too much time thinking about the mirror shots in this movie 😂 I can see the next video in the series is already up, and I’m excited to consume that when I have the time 😄❤
I must confess that at first I hesitated in watching your video, because it kind promised to be a long conference, but I am so glad that I did. It is a beautiful and high quality analysis of this movie, it does explain a lot of things that I hadn't noticed and now, well, I subscribed and can't wait to see the rest. Thanks so much!
Great video! Thank you. It also got me curious about your series on European architecture. Old architecture is one of the main reasons behind my euro-travels, would be nice to learn more from such a well-informed lecturer ❤️
Ha! I love this movie. It's deep in many ways. And in the aggregate, it makes me happy. I've seen it over 80 times. After watching American politics each day, I watch RW&RB to make me feel happy--even joyful. BTW, I'm not a "low brow" man. I'm highly educated with 14 years of post-secondary education. And I love this movie--the character development is excellent, and the actors are amazing. I enjoyed your analysis and agreed with most of it.
After so many years of QAF both US and UK I felt this movie got the emotions and the art of touch in intimate moments which has been lacking for some time. However, this movie has touched parelles with what is going on in the current royal family. Some people find real life and fantasy have met.
Interesting analysis. I haven't seen many movies like this but this movie like the Swedish Netflix series (I'm Swedish by the way) 'Young Royals' are some of the few I've seen that have a 'happy ending' which is unusual when the topic is homosexuality. I am also convinced that we who live here in Scandinavia would not make a big fuss if someone in our royal house came out as gay.
One very significant change from book to film is the change of the book's Queen Mary and her family name of Mountchristen-Windsor to the film's King James and his family name of Hanover-Stuart. King James I (1566-1625) was a Stuart, too, and he was famously a gay man.( Coincidentally, Henry's actor Nicholas Galitzine plays James I's lover in the Sky series "Mary & George".) King James in the film is vastly less cold and homophobic than Queen Mary is in the book, he does actually seem to care at least a bit about his grandsons wants and needs ("Henry, my boy...are you sure this is what you want?" ) whereas the Book's Queen Mary has to be threatened by her daughter/Henry's mother into conceding. Then there's the fact that the king is played by the one and only Stephen Fry, and the way Mr Fry plays him. The shot when he turns away from Henry & Co, braces himself against his desk and reconsiders the situation shows his face in an expression of anguish - is this anguish caused only by him not wishing to hurt his beloved grandson, or maybe also by the grief of a closeted gay (or bi) man over the life he never got to live? I think the filmmakers intended to imply the latter.
I agree, and I have it in my outline for part 1 ! One can also add the fact that the King seems to know from very early on that Henry is gay, and warns him against indulging "selfish" desires (as opposed to "unnatural" in the book) and he does not register any surprise about Henry's relationship with Alex. I wondered whether anyone else had noticed and put all these things together. Will definitely talk about it in part 1, which I am working on now! Thank you!
Love your analysis. I do miss that depth of analysis from my days studying literature and art history. It really helped me understand why it became my go to feel good movie. There is one thing I don't agree with though : I don't regard even the most painfully corny bits of the movie as flaws. I don't believe the movie would be better without them. Cornyness is also symbolism and a certain form of stylization, it is a shortcut to larger pool of meaning. People often look down on it cause it's often a lazy way (in romances) to say love instead of or in addition to showing it, so it can feel too much and superfluous. And cornyness is cliché, It feels paradoxically artificial and simultaneously painfully overly sincere (not unlike the character of Henry...) But I could argue it does a lot in the context of the movie : - Part of the overall balance : it occupies the forefront of the picture because it is obvious and loud but it opens the background to all sorts of depth and complexity without the overall tone becoming too somber and serious. I don't think it takes away anything from the movie, rather it enhances it. - ciments the movie in the tradition of romcoms while being also an opening to subverting some of it's codes. - it's fun, playful and cozy : it's qualities I often miss in other lgbt romances Admittedly I am a die hard fan of everything corny, cheesy and sappy and I'll never stop defending it.
Thank you! I should be more precise -- when I say that parts of the movie are "corny" I am not thinking so much of the sappy parts, which I think are well-earned, but more the stilted, forced jokes, like "His Royal Hardness" and "I will Brexit Your Head from Your Body." And maybe Uma's accent.
@@Historiansplaining I personally still like those jokes and stilted lines even if they don't always land : they contribute to the playful atmosphere and the romcom-y vibe. As for Uma's accent I am totally seriously convinced it's a deliberate choice from her : it sounds fake and artificial because it's a commentary on how out of place some people think a woman in a position of power is. Or she just wanted to have fun with it wich I am also totally fine with it, also they might not have had the time nor the budget to hire a dialect coach for a side character.
Both are great, the book is deeper & has much more context & history, but the movie works so well due to the director’s caring touch & main actors chemistry
its so hilarious to see such an erudite channel like this - who I just watched a Sabbatai effing Zevi vidoeo on do an hour on this insane topic OMG it was a very highly contrived premise you got that right i think you are freaking hilarious man - this comical that you do an hour of this -- you are doing comedy correct - like when i turn on lifetime movie net work and say in a real film critics voice "Eric Roberts you simply have to appreciate the dephth of darkness her portrays so brilliantly in stalked by my doctor"
I think *Love, Simon* is a much better example of a gay rom-com than Bros... sorry, I needed to comment on this bc not only Love, Simon is great but it showed that gay rom-coms can be successful and Bros is just awful. lol
I watched Bros a little while after making this video and thought it was so-so. I haven't watched Love, Simon as of yet because I feel glutted with gay teen dramas but I know a lot more people like it
I think it's a great movie and significant but I don't really think of it as a romance. I think that the through-line is Chiron's personal development.
love simon was good this no love victor was good this no i think you are funny as fuck i would like to hang out with you you are doing stand up rightt what a trip
Madonna's Madame X rewards repeated listens. this - well i;ll never find out rewatched among a handful of people oppenheimmer baarbie thosse r even worse than this movie why dont you watch gay coming of age movie called Get Real you'll like Get Real 20 maybe more years aago but it honestly wont feel that dated
i watched it once it wasnt naauseating but it was tacky so tacky too tacky to be cringe you are talking about this film as if it were brokeback mountain
It resembles Brokeback Mountain in some respects, but it is better and more complex. Good taste is being able to say what is good without being distracted by the superficial trappings. That is the point. Thanks for watching!
Thank you for your obsession with RWRB and putting it under the microscope a bit, which adds richly to our enjoyment. Matthew Lopez did say in an interview that he worked on this movie for two years and searched tirelessly for his two leads, so maybe all that was indicative of the multi textured movie he planned for us. Can’t wait for Parts 2-5. Thanks!
I've grown so obsessed (in a good way) with this movie.
We do tend to overlook a book, play, or movie which at face value is funny and cheesy and plays off common tropes. But that is the best way to entice people to experience it, and hopefully they will continue to delve further into it. As the jester Jack Point says in Gilbert & Sullivan's Yeoman of the Guard:
"For he who'd make his fellow, fellow, fellow creatures wise
Should always gild the philosophic pill!"
I love your analysis!!
In one of the deleted scenes, at night by the campfire, Alex asks Henry why he had told him that he shouldn't fall in love with him. Henry tells him in the form of a fairy tale about the prince who wore an armor that the king gave him for protection, and by wearing it he lost his freedom. When he met the devastatingly handsome peasant boy (Alex), he felt truly alive for the first time in his life. That peasant boy made that armor fall little by little until only the piece that covered his heart remained. The next day is when Alex tries to declare his love, that makes Henry jumps into the water, holding his hands to his chest because the last piece of that armor had finally fallen. This whole scene shows us, as you say in your analysis, how Alex's perspective towards Henry changed from resentment and hatred to deeper love, because he had the ability to see under all those layers the true nature of Henry, not the snobbish image. What he knew but something deeper, more human and sweet than he could have imagined.
Another unnoticed tidbit... Phillip is marrying his childhood sweetheart "Martha Fitzroy". Fitzroy is the traditional surname for the King's children by his mistresses, so Martha and Phillip are probably cousins.
Well, it worked for the late Elizabeth and Philip... * shrugs *
This is precisely the breakdown I have always needed for this film Thank you! I should add another layer to the story of David. A place to hide behind the choice of his name, yet impress others. Henry is Prince Henry of Wales. St David is the patron Saint of Wales (St. David's Day March 1) it could easily be assumed David's name is royal and tradition coded.
That is a great point! And I bet Casey had the connection in mind in writing the book, since Henry is called "Prince of Wales" in the book. That phrase didn't make it into the movie, possibly in part because it is not strictly accurate -- only one person at a given time can be called the "Prince of Wales," and that is the eldest son and heir apparent to the reigning monarch. So Henry wouldn't be called "Prince of Wales" unless something bad happened to both the current monarch and Philip. One can hope.
@@Historiansplaining There is a LOT of Britpicking that should have been done in the proof edit and wasn't (am English, don't get me started) Henry is a very deep and complex character, finessed by Galitzine, whose own background feeds subliminably: his and Lopez' take on Henry had tremendous depth, and is a major contribution to the success and dimension of the film.
I'm glad you brought up the "darkness" in the film, especially as regards to Henry's character. I think the word you used, "tormented" is the perfect word to describe him. As I've read the book and watched the film, both multiple times, it's very clear that Henry has been deeply depressed for a long time. The lack of control and agency over his own life has put him into a pretty constant state of despair and resignation. So much so, that even by the time of the novel and/or the film, he has lost much of his will to fight his circumstances and stand up for himself, even though he's still a very young man. He's also very isolated as a character. Before Alex, the only people he seems close to are his sister and his friend Pez. He seems ill at ease around most other people his own age. You almost get the sense that had this string of events not happened (as improbable as they might be) he may have been headed down an even darker and more self-destructive path. How long could he have lasted in that constant state of despair and loneliness is the question for me. What would his life have been like if he hadn't formed a relationship with Alex and eventually gathered the strength to grasp his own happiness and self-determination? I like this contrast that's sort of lurking in the background of the film. They never say out loud that Henry is depressed, but it comes through in his words, his reactions, and his facial expressions.
One of the best - no the best, discussion of this movie I have experienced. Thank you. As a sort of intelligent well educated person, I thought I was going nuts for rewatching and enjoying so much this sometimes cheesy - in parts - film. I am an older lesbian who was shocked there was even a positive ending, and surprised about many many good things in this movie. I watch it when I want to feel less anxious about life. Weird? You helped me feel not so crazy about this. Again thanks for your intelligent thoughts.
No one should feel crazy for loving this movie!!
Thank you! I agree with all you said even though I had no realization of much of it! This is why the book & the film were entertaining enough to make me want to read & watch each several times. I encouraged family & friends to watch the film, also.
Hi! What a pleasant surprise to open youtube to keep me company while I knit, and here's Sam! Looking forward to this.
I am a huge fan of this movie. I really enjoyed your analysis of the movie. It definitely got me to think about many aspects of the movie in a different way. I look forward to more of your content.
I adore this type of work. Deeply analyzing things that get dismissed just because its popular, or not the right genre.
The cinematography is brilliant. Not only making the most of the budget, but really using the space as its own character.
Thank you for this complex and layered interpretation. I learned a great deal. Specifically I did not know about Jonathan and David in the Bible. Wow!
What a fun and informative video. Was hoping for exactly this depth of analysis. Looking forward to the rest of the series! Good job, Sam.
This is terrific! And I very much look forward to the projected sessions you identified. Thanks for this. Really eye-opening!
RWRB is my favorite book, and while I can pick on the movie a bit for the ways it doesn’t hold up, I love your analysis that provides more depth to the story, much of which is more subtlety conveyed through the film.
I love what you said about treating the movie as serious and genuine in your analysis instead of ironically like we often tend to look at romcoms. It’s almost treating it as sacred, honoring every part of the art as intentional and seeing what deeper meaning we can find. I love it. Look forward to the whole series!
Looking forward to the series!
This is BRILLIANT! As a RW and RB addict, I LOVE this. Like others, I've lost count of the number of times that I've watched this movie because I know that every time I watch it, there's something new that reveals itself. It's also my "go to" feel good movie whenever I'm feeling "off", or, whenever I have 2 hours to do nothing else except watch and enjoy.
Wow, amazing video friend! TH-cam voodoo somehow sent your channel in my direction and I'm gobsmacked. As a genX gay, im obsessed with the new trend of lighthearted, fairly wholesome and mostly untraumatic gay media. I also have a degree in history with focus on bronze age civilization, but love almost all non American history. I will now be enjoying my new favorite channel, lots to catch up on. Thanks for all your hard work, it's appreciated out here in the world.
Your video is something I’ve really been wishing for, and I’m looking forward to the later episodes.
You mention Heartstopper as being cute and sappy. While I will agree that the tone is overwhelmingly positive, I think it has its darker side as well, not that much less than RWRB. If you haven’t seen the second season of HS it is much more serious and mature than season 1. The rest I agree with you, a PG high school romance is quite a different beast than an R adult movie, and does make RWRB a movie that is pretty unique.
Thank you! I also should update that I watched Bros, and it was pretty good. I don't love it like RWRB of course, but it's good.
Thank you so much for making this! I love it and I actually can’t believe I haven’t stumbled upon this video until now.
I’ve loved the RWRB book since 2020 and was properly obsessed with the movie around the time it came out last year (and still love it now). I love reading and listing to other’s analysis of it too, and I love how in depth this was. I’ve already spent too much time thinking about the mirror shots in this movie 😂
I can see the next video in the series is already up, and I’m excited to consume that when I have the time 😄❤
Thank you and I am so glad that you found it!
I must confess that at first I hesitated in watching your video, because it kind promised to be a long conference, but I am so glad that I did. It is a beautiful and high quality analysis of this movie, it does explain a lot of things that I hadn't noticed and now, well, I subscribed and can't wait to see the rest. Thanks so much!
Working on pt. 1, hope to have it out soon
Great video! Thank you. It also got me curious about your series on European architecture. Old architecture is one of the main reasons behind my euro-travels, would be nice to learn more from such a well-informed lecturer ❤️
Wow you gave me so many more interesting aspects to think about this movei! Excited to see the following videos!
Ha! I love this movie. It's deep in many ways. And in the aggregate, it makes me happy. I've seen it over 80 times. After watching American politics each day, I watch RW&RB to make me feel happy--even joyful. BTW, I'm not a "low brow" man. I'm highly educated with 14 years of post-secondary education. And I love this movie--the character development is excellent, and the actors are amazing. I enjoyed your analysis and agreed with most of it.
After so many years of QAF both US and UK I felt this movie got the emotions and the art of touch in intimate moments which has been lacking for some time. However, this movie has touched parelles with what is going on in the current royal family. Some people find real life and fantasy have met.
That was great. You brought up things I hadn’t thought of.
Interesting analysis. I haven't seen many movies like this but this movie like the Swedish Netflix series (I'm Swedish by the way) 'Young Royals' are some of the few I've seen that have a 'happy ending' which is unusual when the topic is homosexuality. I am also convinced that we who live here in Scandinavia would not make a big fuss if someone in our royal house came out as gay.
One very significant change from book to film is the change of the book's Queen Mary and her family name of Mountchristen-Windsor to the film's King James and his family name of Hanover-Stuart. King James I (1566-1625) was a Stuart, too, and he was famously a gay man.( Coincidentally, Henry's actor Nicholas Galitzine plays James I's lover in the Sky series "Mary & George".) King James in the film is vastly less cold and homophobic than Queen Mary is in the book, he does actually seem to care at least a bit about his grandsons wants and needs ("Henry, my boy...are you sure this is what you want?" ) whereas the Book's Queen Mary has to be threatened by her daughter/Henry's mother into conceding. Then there's the fact that the king is played by the one and only Stephen Fry, and the way Mr Fry plays him. The shot when he turns away from Henry & Co, braces himself against his desk and reconsiders the situation shows his face in an expression of anguish - is this anguish caused only by him not wishing to hurt his beloved grandson, or maybe also by the grief of a closeted gay (or bi) man over the life he never got to live? I think the filmmakers intended to imply the latter.
I agree, and I have it in my outline for part 1 ! One can also add the fact that the King seems to know from very early on that Henry is gay, and warns him against indulging "selfish" desires (as opposed to "unnatural" in the book) and he does not register any surprise about Henry's relationship with Alex. I wondered whether anyone else had noticed and put all these things together. Will definitely talk about it in part 1, which I am working on now! Thank you!
Love your analysis. I do miss that depth of analysis from my days studying literature and art history.
It really helped me understand why it became my go to feel good movie.
There is one thing I don't agree with though : I don't regard even the most painfully corny bits of the movie as flaws. I don't believe the movie would be better without them.
Cornyness is also symbolism and a certain form of stylization, it is a shortcut to larger pool of meaning. People often look down on it cause it's often a lazy way (in romances) to say love instead of or in addition to showing it, so it can feel too much and superfluous.
And cornyness is cliché, It feels paradoxically artificial and simultaneously painfully overly sincere (not unlike the character of Henry...)
But I could argue it does a lot in the context of the movie :
- Part of the overall balance : it occupies the forefront of the picture because it is obvious and loud but it opens the background to all sorts of depth and complexity without the overall tone becoming too somber and serious. I don't think it takes away anything from the movie, rather it enhances it.
- ciments the movie in the tradition of romcoms while being also an opening to subverting some of it's codes.
- it's fun, playful and cozy : it's qualities I often miss in other lgbt romances
Admittedly I am a die hard fan of everything corny, cheesy and sappy and I'll never stop defending it.
Thank you! I should be more precise -- when I say that parts of the movie are "corny" I am not thinking so much of the sappy parts, which I think are well-earned, but more the stilted, forced jokes, like "His Royal Hardness" and "I will Brexit Your Head from Your Body." And maybe Uma's accent.
@@Historiansplaining I personally still like those jokes and stilted lines even if they don't always land : they contribute to the playful atmosphere and the romcom-y vibe.
As for Uma's accent I am totally seriously convinced it's a deliberate choice from her : it sounds fake and artificial because it's a commentary on how out of place some people think a woman in a position of power is. Or she just wanted to have fun with it wich I am also totally fine with it, also they might not have had the time nor the budget to hire a dialect coach for a side character.
Would greatly appreciate your review and commentary of the Netflix series Young Royals! If you have not seen it, you should consider it.
I missed, and can't seem to find your discussion of Its wonderful life. Is it in patreon or public feed?
It's in my post from Dec. 29, 2021 -- "2021 in Historical Context -- Global Crisis, Labor Unrest, and "It's A Wonderful Life""
AH thanks! Clicking over to that now. @@Historiansplaining
BTW, the book was so good, I was hesitant to watch the movie
Both are great, the book is deeper & has much more context & history, but the movie works so well due to the director’s caring touch & main actors chemistry
its so hilarious to see such an erudite channel like this - who I just watched a Sabbatai effing Zevi vidoeo on do an hour on this insane topic OMG
it was a very highly contrived premise
you got that right
i think you are freaking hilarious man - this comical that you do an hour of this -- you are doing comedy correct -
like when i turn on lifetime movie net work and say in a real film critics voice "Eric Roberts you simply have to appreciate the dephth of darkness her portrays so brilliantly in stalked by my doctor"
I'm doing a lot more than an hour of this, because that is what the movie merits.
Thanks for watching!
@@Historiansplaining youre hilarious.im I'm St Pete Beach where are you
I think *Love, Simon* is a much better example of a gay rom-com than Bros...
sorry, I needed to comment on this bc not only Love, Simon is great but it showed that gay rom-coms can be successful and Bros is just awful. lol
I watched Bros a little while after making this video and thought it was so-so. I haven't watched Love, Simon as of yet because I feel glutted with gay teen dramas but I know a lot more people like it
Did you consider Moonlight in your review of "lgbtqa+" romance movies? It won the Oscar's Best Picture in 2017.
I think it's a great movie and significant but I don't really think of it as a romance. I think that the through-line is Chiron's personal development.
@@Historiansplaining Interesting given the ending, I don't see how it's not a romance.
love simon was good this no
love victor was good this no
i think you are funny as fuck i would like to hang out with you
you are doing stand up rightt
what a trip
Madonna's Madame X rewards repeated listens. this - well i;ll never find out
rewatched among a handful of people
oppenheimmer baarbie thosse r even worse than this movie
why dont you watch gay coming of age movie called Get Real
you'll like Get Real
20 maybe more years aago but it honestly wont feel that dated
i watched it once
it wasnt naauseating but it was tacky so tacky too tacky to be cringe
you are talking about this film as if it were brokeback mountain
It resembles Brokeback Mountain in some respects, but it is better and more complex.
Good taste is being able to say what is good without being distracted by the superficial trappings. That is the point.
Thanks for watching!
As an original book reader, I honestly liked the movie better. 😁🫶🏻 Keep it going! Love your work.