Storm from X-Men is canonically half African American and half Kenyan, but in the comics or movies they never explore the complexities of her multi-ethnic black experience. They only explore the fact that she’s African (in honestly extremely stereotypical ways) or they erase her Africanness at all, in the movies they even casted her as biracial TWICE. I’d love to see Storm’s roots in Harlem and Kenya explored.
In the comic she married T’Challa and takes her rightful place as a Queen. It would be amazing to have a movie! Here she is with all this power but she also has this diaspora to cross and cultures to not only re-explore but must understand before she can be expected to lead the people of Wakanda.
@@carolinegardner8214Lmao "our own stories" always has the man black as night and the woman pale skinned as hell. The solution is SELF LOVE LONG BEFORE the movies.
Am also bi-ethnic, my two parents are from Africa. My mom from West Africa (Senegal) and my dad from Central Africa (Congo). This is not a common mix, I'd say we are kinda rare then and from now on. Even in this case where the countries are not that far, the differences are still a lot. We have been solely raised as Senegalese (and French) Africans. Our father didn't taught us about this home-country and culture. When he could because he raised us with our mother. He has always been in our lives and still is like our mother.
Same here both of my parents are Jamaican but my mom’s great great grandparents were enslaved black Americans who traveled and settled in Jamaica and my family always grew up celebrating/acknowledging our DOCAS ancestry which is extremely taboo in the Caribbean community where alot in the islands have DNA/ancestors connections to African Americans
Yes! I was born in Jamaica, grew up in a Jamaican household, but going to American schools and interacting with African American culture was challenging. I was constantly trying to code switch in the attempt to fit in, but I still struggle with it
It's sickening to see people bending over backwards to claim a shred of Black ancestry because they think being "marginalized" gives them some type of social cred. And that poem was horrific.
That white lady's poem made me feel so insulted. It was definitely horrible. And she tried to use a "blaccent". It felt so minselry-ish. It was offensive.
I have white Hispanics that married into the family (mom’s side) my African uncle married a Cuban. One of my aunt’s family friends has a son that likes to claim that that he’s black (bc blk ppl have historically suffered) to look better 😂 that guy is one of the whitest hispanics.
Hmmmn… but we do. Bleck women are obsessed with mixed race people , interracial couples and bleck men are determined to copulate with whike women and call their off spring bleck; you know like Kanye did with his children when he called his children bleck when he wanted black women to fight for him… absolutely NOT
@@HabitualLover, because if they do, they will also be confirming the privilege they try to deny though part take in and thus would prove that it needs to be stripped away. Biracial people don't want to give up their privilege no more than Whites want to give up theirs. Biracial Africans are fine with oppressing brown and darker-skinned Africans at the price of their acceptance within the Black community and even society.
@@TamTam9-15claim mixed or something. Mulatto would be the most accurate but when the 1 drop situation happened it was removed to let you know mixed with blk is full blk. Idk I identify as blk and seen mgm spaces consider a quarter something other than African and European still heavily mixed.
My son is half Asian and Half Black. He's only 10 and he's never struggled with his biracial identity and probably never will because I make it clear to him he's both and that's beautiful. This is 100 precent the parents fault. I love that you mentioned bi ethnic Black people. Im also bi ethnic, Black American and Puerto Rican and would love to hear more stories about that as well.
He is not both. You can’t be both pregnant and not-pregnant. You are either black or ain’t. It’s not really about genetics. It’s about where you fit within the white supremacist system. Culturally, they can be part of both worlds but not racially.
He’s definitely not both. Go to the Asian community and see if they see and treat him as Asian. The black community will embrace him but never the Asian and this is coming from someone with a half Indian and half black child on the way
@@Seancarter2010it doesnt matter what they see him as that is what he is. We shouldnt have to accept Mixed people purely because their other half denies them. It doesnt benefit us in the slightest. They need to carve out a space for themselves. Let them be biracial
As a Black man that loves black Superheroes seeing them drawn biracial Italian or tan white female irritates me because doesn't that shows Anti-Blackness
@@Seancarter2010 And this maya girl looks like an older female version of Drake’s son. It’s weird bcuz I always see wp going hard on any black person that calls the son black by saying stuff like, “he’s not even black, he’s white”. They don’t really use quadroon. Just like how they see Andrew tate as white. But somehow they still call Halsey biracial/ mixed when they could clearly see she’s not. All of them are wyte js. It just seems like they’ll claim the guys as wyte regardless, but use mixed/ biracial as the new term for ww and ethnic ww. Like Zendaya in KC Undercover being casted as a blk girl. And some wp do think that Zendaya is wyte or ethnic wyte. Or when wp thought Meghan Markle was a ww back in Suits until she started dating Harry. Then ppl like Carmen Ejogo, Amandla stenberg, or just less euro-looking mixed women are labeled as blk by default, which are often casted to replace bw, unless it’s an extremely stereotypical role. Then wp are obsessed with casting bw especially dsbw. They rarely ever cast the Mason Gooding and Vin Diesel types as a bm. There’s obviously an agenda to replace/ disrespect bw in the media.
13:45 "People enjoy seeing white people (light skin/ambiguous people) as the image of blackness." That is deep! I heard someone say about their experiences in exclusive, high profile spaces that they, an ambiguous biracial person with light eyes, were always the blackest person in the room.
This reminds me of Misty Copeland’s experience as a professional Ballerina at an Elite Ballet theater. Even though she is very ambiguous everyone else in the theater is Lily white, and the instructors always criticized her “black” features when it came to her performances
@@shashuabates1310 It's similar how Japanese are using Whites to represent anime and India utilizing Ukranian models as "Indian" models. It's a lack of racial pride
@@DrUmarJohnson1 Unless an anime character is stated otherwise or has an English name or something, they are Japanese lol. having blue eyes or light hair hair is a stylistic choice bc it's a cartoon, just like marge simpson having blue hair and yellow skin even though she's understood to be white.
What’s particularly nasty about what Ms quadroon is saying about her “black identity” being negated is that she’s leaving off the asterisk. She isn’t upset that she doesn’t feel oppression. She’s upset that she doesn’t get to benefit from the cool parts of blackness as if you can just split that shit apart. I love being black, but I also know there’s a good chance someone might tell me they’re surprised I’m professional at work. (That is a REAL THING someone told me at my last job).
@justme2272 bc some people weird as hell. I had a yt coworker show me a pic of her in black face like out of nowhere. I have no idea why she felt comfortable enough to do that
this conversation is so important!!!! i am biracial and “white passing” and i do not understand how other “white passing” biracials/mixed race people consider themselves to have ANYY of the same experiences as black people. we are not black !! and that’s okay. i feel like even speaking to my mom growing up i realized very early on that my experience in life is not the same as hers or other black people’s especially dark skin individuals. it’s insane to think otherwise and like you mention it’s completelyyyyy inappropriate to try to compare our experiences and speak on any black issues. the pedestal white biracials are put on is absurd
ngl I'm mixed too and I had this same experience when I was younger. Even though I can empathize with my mom's experiences, and even though I look ambiguous, it was always obvious to me that our experience and how we're treated would never in a million years be the same.
But thats not how it was for hundreds of years. The reason most black Americans are mixed already is because mulatto have existed within black families in America for generations. It's not new to be biracial or mixed. So what happened to all the mixed people who didn't pass as white, or who had one drop? They are grouped as black, for hundreds of years, so now the black race in America means "mixed". This isn't the same as Africans who have never mixed. There are Africans in Africa who if they take 23andMe they are 90 or even 100% African and not just that, but specific to their region of Africa. The genes are no longer the same. The one drop rule is racist. But the concept of black and white also are racist.
@@lucianp2616 Who grouped them? I’m not concerned about Europeans classification of mixed races people. Who are your parents? If one is black and the other, is other. U are that. The math is simple. *No other race of people plays this game. Are the Japanese claiming Naomi Osaka? White folk still act like Obama mama ain’t white. I’m all for claiming our half or percentage but acting like the white parent don’t exist is delusional.* *U can’t throw people in our (black) group b/c dominant society deems them unworthy to be in theirs. This is why Black people looking like 2% milk right now.*
@@lucianp2616 the reason why most mix people in the past could blend in the black community easily is because most had black mothers/comes from the womb that created the community. Now, most of the mix/my racial people have white mothers and are screaming on the Internet that they can’t relate to the warm of which they came from because it will never be white. there are biracial in my family/friends but the ones with white moms are usually problematic not saying the ones from black mothers cannot be. But usually the ones from black mom are given the opportunity to weakness races in firsthand what their mother goes through and so it creates a soft/caring affection towards Black people. Just research it and observe the difference between the black/white womb biracial.
@@lucianp2616 From the Oahspe bible Book of Judgement Chapter 37:1-6 1 God said: Do you think, O man, that your God goes about accomplishing a work without a system & order 2 Truely, these are the first of my considerations 3 First I send my Loo'is, my masters of generations, down to the earth, to the nation and peoples where l intend to build my edifice. 4 And my Loo'is by inspiration, control the marriages of certain mortals, so that heirs may be born into the world suited to the work I have on hand. 5 Towards this end, my loo'is labour for many generstions, raising up thousands and tens of thousands of mortal heirs according to my commandments. Thus not everyone is mixed 💜
Thank you for pointing out bi ethnic. I’m African American and Nigerian and I feel like bi ethnic Black stories are overshadowed or ignored for biracial stories. Lots of spaces can be very polarizing within the diaspora as well. Think it has to do with our society generalizing blackness into one conglomerate.
we need to appreciate dual ethnics ourselves. . I am a biracial male but what folk do not know is that on my continental african side i am actually bi-ethnic . My mam is Swati/San but she was raised as a Zulu girl . I am a swati and Zulu speaker although my Zulu is the only language that i perfected. i like all types of Black people . whether from the continent of from the US or the carribean. i can admit that i have a soft spot for carribean as a whole . maybe because they usually don't deny african heritage like african americans.
I am also bi-ethnic. I'm African/Black American(dad) and Afro-latina(Mom was born and raised her but her parents weren't). Growing up I always felt stuck between a rock and a hard place.
Let me ask you a question. Are North Africans who are indigenous to the region considered black? What if they are more African than most black American people? See the issue? It's not clear what exactly black even is. So why defend a phenotype? We know what Africans are, they are tribal.
When you said people love seeing white people as the image of blackness I started cackling because it’s so true and it’s actually ridiculous I’m just imagining if it were reversed bwahaha!
Omg! When you said “you’re 50% ⚪️ and get with someone 100% ⚪️ why did you think that child would be a super knee-grow.” Liiiiiike, The race to make Megan Markle a sister was frustrating to me 😂
Black women claimed Megan for the same reason they claim other Biracil African women to be able to associate with her accomplishments as a "Black" woman. It is the same reason that if Black women saw Zendaya on the cover of a magazine, they'd scream, "Black Girl Magic," even though Zendaya, like Megan, isn't Black but Biracial. Black women live vicariously through Biracial African women all the time. I don't know why, though at the same time, they complain about not getting the representation they deserve while also telling the same people that they told the Biracial African woman is "Black" that the Biracial African woman (need I not remind you is supposed to be a "Black" woman) shouldn't represent them and are erasing Black woman, especially Black women with Brown and Dark skin. All the while, African men and women continue to procreate them. But I don't know. Maybe it's just me. 🤔
I personally don't befriend them; I've learned my lesson far too many times as a DSBW. People can call me whatever they want, IDC, I rightfully keep anyone with an identity crisis out of my circle.
It's not that they want to be oppressed. They want to be the new Black woman. They know they get more privileges and they are worshipped by Black people just like Halle Berry, Zendaya, Paula Patton, Stacey Dash, and all the other biracial and mixed race people.
Your channel is very educational, Mayowa!! I’m black and native Brazilian, and you helped me deconstruct my own colorism, which is a HUGE problem here. (I think you mentioned in another video a short documentary about how a Brazilian black woman was severely bullied and lost her title as a Globeleza during Carnival for being dark skinned. It didn’t change much since then, and that happened in 2016). Thanks to you I realized how badly I tried to mask my black features to be treated better (such as my 4b hair that I struggled a lot to embrace), and how that by itself is a privilege. Also how to use that privilege to help and empower other black people around me that unfortunately only have access to the mostly anti-black media we have here. Please never stop posting videos!! They’re incredibly necessary 🙏🏽
I've noticed that when mixed people talk about mistreatment , black people are always considered jealous. But I never hear them say white people were jealous, which they also can be. Just because some black people didn't like you doesn't mean that they're jealous
@meiko2164 why should a full black person be jealous of someone who is half or only 25% black? Mixed people are also jealous that they don't get the black cool points.
@meiko2164 so you don't think you're black? Because the way you excluded yourself from 'your own men prefer us' Yet everytime black people wanna talk about blackness, you guys always want to be centre stage. How does that work?
@@Kayla-kd8ov They're black only when they feel like it. Actual black people can't jump in and out of blackness whenever we feel like it, we're black all day, everyday.
I love your make up! I'm black and white. I'm kinda/am white passing. I personally identify ad biracial. My boyfriend is Indian. If/when we have kids I would not encourage them to identify as black.
As a mixed person (half rwandan and half swiss) I would also LOVE to hear more stories from bi-ethnic people. I have someone in my family who is congolese and rwandan and there is so much difficult history between these two nations and it would be interesting to hear stories like theirs.
It's a bit of a mindscrew that she also is using a very African-American/Black American style of poetry popularized by Sonia Sanchez then imitated in the 90s by a new crop of Black youth with parents from everywhere. Her pauses, flair, movement-ALL Black American- her "rejected" side but no smoke for Whites who tend to be afraid of potentially dark kids.
@@justjules2029 there's never just one person. But her style was greatly influence. But to directly reply to you. How embarrassing to be arrogantly ignorant🤦🏿♀️🤣. Prof Sanchez is a Black woman from the U.S. with U.S. roots. Your xenophobic AntiBlackness is showing🙄. (Bizarre then that you're on this philosopher and teacher's channel, given her roots.) P.S. Sanchez was a marital last name.
One thing I notice with most if not all racialized black ppl (partially black ppl as well lol👀) is we don’t always wanna admit to our own anti-blackness when we bring up other black ppl’s anti-blackness . My dad’s igbo and my mom’s a black american (black descendant of enslaved Africans), so I notice both groups (me too sometimes) don’t always like to admit their anti-blackness.
i found that we rarely if ever a configuration where the actual dad is african american and the mother continental african. colorism sure plays a role here. American black men are chief colorists
Cuz ppl don’t like to take accountability but you have to understand the reasoning behind the conflict. Yts mislead all Black people into thinking that we are against one another.
@@PHlophe this is kinda what I’m talking abt like you’ve pointed out an observation (and maybe you’re right bc I don’t think I’ve ever seen the reverse coupling either so maybe it’s less common). You’re bringing up American black men’s colorism and nobody else’s, but you’re not wrong for doing that. I’m conflicted bc i know we have to single out black American men bc their anti-blackness is a specific problem and each black person’s anti-blackness is different. Maybe we’re supposed to single out ppl’s anti-blackness without forgetting our own bc it’s all connected.
@@ragdoll774Punitive colorism is rife across the board and its true. and like all forms of oppressions there are toxic flavors depending on where you live. i found that what separate continental african mens' colorism and african american mens' is the fact that the US dude would actively fight to remove dark skin from his lineage. everyone wants a version of an idealized Brazilian with brown hair and loose locs . , as men we all do mental math about how our kids could/would look like i knew i'd have kids with different hues . i have a dark skinned daughter you would not believe the type of sheit i've heard disguised as fake compliments. because i onno why a lot of BP believe as Black folk we can't read one another lol!
13:04 Yes! Knew this woman in college that constantly talked about being oppressed but looked like a 100% white woman, I didn’t even find out she was black till a year later from a friend. Not only would she constantly talk about being an oppressed black woman herself, she also said this about her kids. I thought that maybe her kids father was black but found out from another friend that those kids were straight up white. All in all, I just wish they would acknowledge that they easily pass for white and that it is extremely offensive to black people.
Literally was just having this conversation. I will never cry over mixed tears when they talk about not being “accepted” by black people. You’re not black, you’re mixed and that’s okay. Stop trying to pander to black people and equate your middle school bullying to the black experience in the world
And there is a soft movement of mixed people online who want to define themselves as separate from black people, to me this is great, but the contents of their video is 90% anti black trying to accuse black people of not accepting their mixed-ness and being less accepting than white people despite that confessions from mixed people (including Logic) dhow that it's the opposite
Isn't race what other people see you as? Every time I get pulled over the cops label me as black. If the law and other people always treat me as black, then does it matter if I consider myself mixed?
@rachel1729 the only statement I made was that cops and people I meet label me as black. I don't understand why that statement doesn't make sense. My other sentences were genuine questions. If you would answer those questions, I'd be better able to understand your position.
For the most part, it really isn't worse, that's true and I agree. In general, let's say, I think you're right. But let's not be disingenuous, speaking in too many generalities or absolutes or become an echo chamber about it. I'm not one of them, but I can absolutely see why some people would say that it is because some mixed with black folk have actually had some really bad experiences with black people. Like, legitimately. You can believe that or not but you cannot invalidate someone's lived experience that has caused genuine trauma for them. Jus' sayin'. On a smaller scale, too, I have been told I'm half an abomination for being half white, by a black percenter. Then, because I'm mixed, my parents were race traitors and I'm also a race traitor (traitor to the black community, that is) for having dated other mixed people who were also half white, one of whom was half white and half Asian, no black. Really? I don't think so. That wasn't traumatic and I've experienced worse, most notably from white folks, and literally one Hispanic girl, to be honest, but still, it was unsettling and it's a small drop of what can lead on to a more extreme presentation of being judgemental or narrow in mind, in my opinion. I would really not like to see more and more black people follow suit of what has already been enacted by white counterparts. I do hope to see the black community gain strength and traction, heal and flourish. Coming with rhetoric that identifies white people or people who are a part of that diaspora by first generation mix as being evil, devil or part devil is not the way to overcome or to upwards mobility, I don't think.
I am so glad you made this video. I have biracial family members, and may have biracial children and I do my best to help them understand how privilege works and why Black children may be hostile to them, and kinda how they get tunnel vision. They focus on the Black kids not accepting them and not on how their white peers push away the Black kids in the first place. There's also this entitlement to being accepted when Black people aren't even accepted by other Black people, and same with white people. Like, not everyone is going to be your friend and that's okay. Bullying is different but a lot of the time they're not bullying, they're just not putting them on a pedestal.
I’m a mom of a multi ethnic bi racial mixed black girl lol and I taught her this her entire life. Even in a loving way you can teach your kids that because it’s important to prepare them to stand strong in their identity. She’s a teen so I be like “ girl, you crying over these braids but your hair is not no real black girl hair! “ and she cracks up lol her friends are all chopped & screwed too (mixed, lol that’s what we call her friends) so I reckon I have to be honest with how unambiguous black people perceive her too. Her best friend is Guyanese, and Jamaican but he looks like he’s Samoan with yt skin, and asiatic eyes. His mom is biracial multi ethnic, and her mom is black Jamaican. I say that to say, he considers himself a boy of color, but he is not black. His mom is biracial, but he himself isn’t black even though that’s the culture he’s growing up in. And there’s absolutely nothing wrong with teaching them this ! Just keep it real !
@@Delflorpademin Guyana, Mixed is its own category regardless of skintone or appearance. So yeah, he had better identify as Mixed. If he comes to Guyana and rejects all of his ancestors he would get the side eye.
@@adalheidisofadamahcaptaino18Aye fellow Guyanese! My mom is a black Guyanese woman. My father is mixed and mostly white so they thought of him as white in Guyana. Meanwhile, me and my siblings were called yellow by our relatives. It's mainly Americans refusing to accept mixed as mixed. Most places arounds the world don't have this issue
You think you’re helping these biracial children in your family? By making excuses for why black kids are hostile and abusive towards them and suggesting they should be sympathetic towards people hurting them? Pre-assigning privilege or victimhood status to people is unbelievably detrimental to mental health and pathology. I wish somebody would try and tell me that a biracial or white woman has more privilege than me!
I feel like I just had an out of body experience watching that "confessions of a quadroon".... like for a moment I thought I was still watching an episode of Abbot Elementary because I cannot believe what came out of that woman's mouth
Such a great vid! I'm reminded of when I was living in Austria and was attending this majority Black women's meeting and the topic of mixed raced kids came up. A lot of the Black women there have kids that are half Black and half White. The way the conversation went...all I can say is I can understand why these kids grow up with weird ideas around their race. I'm a firm believer that it starts at home for most of these problematic folks
Yes, it starts at home...normally by the black parent shoving blackness down their mixed race child's throat..so the child grows up confused and with hate...black people try that alot in south africa and fail...because mixed race people here stand up and stick with their own ..so it doesn't have the same effect as America where mixed race people are exposed to the elements with no buffer
I’m also annoyed by the self absorption and self importance of these narratives. The “woe is me” leaves zero room for recognition or acknowledgment of the real lived visceral Black experiences Black people endure. I’m half Black American half South Asian and I look predominantly Black (dark skin, West African features, tighter curl pattern) and even my ass knows that I’m afforded privileges and seen in a VERY different light when people find out I’m mixed… spoiler alert, I get treated better!!!! This reeks of self importance and “look at me look at me I’m Black can’t you see!!!” Like why don’t yall stop asking Black folks to validate your identity? Don’t you think they’re doing enough? Don’t you think it’s a little self centered? To me it speaks to deeper sense of entitlement - that your lived experience deserves more exploration and recognition than others. This is why I’ve stepped away from participating in mixed race spaces. I have found them to be tone deaf far too often. I also struggle with these spaces given the way I look i.e. not looking “mixed enough” whatever that means. Well we all know what that means. I’m so tired of this narrative. Thank you Mayowa for all the amazing work you do 🙏🏾 been watching for a minute and felt so compelled to comment on this one.
Thank you for sharing this. We don’t often hear the perspectives of biracial people who look predominantly black or actually have dark skin and don’t fit the stereotypical ‘mixed-race look.’ I’m a dark skinned Senegalese and Torres Strait Islander woman born in Australia. The latter is considered black but not African, so I’ve had a lot of interesting experiences growing up and I can’t relate to a lot of the experiences of ambiguous/white passing biracial people.
why pander, though? instead of supporting other mixed women and since you evidently have no identity issues, why not help mixed women instead of saying 'look, black people - I get it. THEY don't but I do'. Come on now.
@@babypicassoeisenstein Biracial people don't want to be helped. They want African people to accept their delusion, and some African people do. Some even encourage it.
@@babypicassoeisensteinhelp them do what… And she explained her issues with mixed race spaces and youre too busy trying to make your stupid point to notice
As a Black and PR poet, There are spaces that I deemed safe for me and other black ppl, but noticed that there is a push towards allowing very pale or just YT women (never the men) in these spaces. It's for the mainstream appeal, the poetry has become so cringe it's uncomfortable. I have tried to avoid these spaces but the lack of gatekeeping is real.
OMG, yes to everythinnngggg. I once had a little argument with my friend about J. Cole's race. He had called J. Cole Black and I'd said, nah, J. Cole is biracial. Like he has a whole white parent. Why are we so quick to claim half Blacks and quarter Blacks as Black??? It's giving insecure. Also, it's disrespectful to their white parents and ancestors. As always, I love your look. You look like a water spirit. 😍
I hate that I get seen as jealous for simply being darkskin lol when I Love my melanin. 😂I use to wish I was darker like my mom/big sises whom I looked up to. It’s projection.
@@satindoll7300let’s not flip things on each other not every lightskin or darkskin person are jealous of each other some of them actually are on both ends ..
@JustMeandGod_ gurl she said what she said. Yall will always call fully blk wm especially dsbw jealous wen alot of yall mixed women be jealous of fully blk women yall dman selves and have a superiority complex 😒 let's not be delusional
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NO NO CAUSE THIS THING ABOUT PLUCKIN THE ANCESTORS OUTTA THIN AIR TO PROVE BLACKNESS IS SO SILLY. My parents are both white puerto ricans so obviously I'm also a white puerto rican, but awhile ago I found out that my mom lowkey IDENTIFIES AS BLACK. I was applying for college and put white & hispanic, and she scoffed at me and was like "we have black in us. think of your grandparents." BB WE GOT A WHOLE WALL MIRROR IN THE LIVING ROOM IN FRONT OF US. DO WE LOOK LIKE MY GRANDPARENTS? NO. Omg. I was flabbergasted.
Lol! That is wild. Im mixed race with no white and my family has told me to put mixed race, Asian, other, whatever I can vaguely hold onto if it will get my foot in the door. Like this is not the time to suddenly unfurl the ancestors
There are some points I agree with but I don’t necessarily agree with all. It’s not always about systemic oppression it’s a sense of belonging. Biracial people can feel ostracised by both races (blacks and whites). Anyone can experience racism and it does happen to biracial people. I do understand that some biracial people are white passing but those who are not don’t always navigate so easy.
Acknowledging that biracials are biracials and not fully black or that they benefit from their proximity to whiteness is not saying they do not experience racism or they are not an extension of the black experience but their experience is not gonna be the same as a fully black person. They have their own unique experience and that is okay. No need to pretend that Logic's experience is gonna be the same as a non ambiguous black man.
Thank you. Finally someone talking about this!! I remember talking to white ppl who said my opinion about extremely lightskin/white passing 'black' people was racist, they looking in my eyes, as a dark skin black woman that grew up in a surrounding where the only thing about me people saw was my darkness, the tightness of my coils etc telling me that me thinking we not the same is racist
Honestly, how can one sit there and claim only one aspect of themselves? As if the other race(s) they’re mixed with are nullified; it’s dang bonkers. Side note: the colors you chose for your eyeshadow is giviiiiiiiing!! So radiant🥰
😂😂 I love how you straight up asked for compliments on your looks at the end. Girl you know your makeup is always a hit! Your hair looks beautiful too. 💛
@@Opinionatedcancerit's not about how mixed has no specific look. That's no one's burden. It's simply, mono racial people have a phenotypical standard. It supersedes the existence of their parents influence in a mixed person
@@chaosswa-ee-ty5911 That is the reason Africans need to stick to bloodlines, and this wouldn't be a problem along with the golden rule of "If you have non-African parents, then you are Biracial."
The way this rule makes no sense to me🙄. In my country mixed people don't have these problems, they admit they are mixed ( In most African countries i guess). I agree with everything you said cause if someone says they are 30% white they'd never claim whiteness so, why are you as a very mixed person claiming just one part of you? People can be mixed but you're going to be more of something than other, and I need to hear the nonsense of some black people saying "black people come in all shades"🙄girl bye that's not a black lightskin person we need to have a convo about how mixed people are not just being the face of blackness but also the representation of lightskin BLACK people. You forgot to add the " black people say I'm too white to be black and white people say I'm too black to be white" maybe cause you're MIXED🙃 AND THEN PROCEED TO SUCESSFULLY ENTER BOTH PLACES, MAINLY BLACK SPACES, BEING CONSIDERED THE PREFERENCE AND THE EXAMPLE OF "GOOD" HAIR AND SKIN AND HAVE A CAREER PROMOTED BY MOSTLY BLACK PEOPLE🥴. ATT: I do understand the struggles that mixed people have and i see them as a part of our community but that does not take your privileges and make you a FULLY BLACK PERSON AND THEY SHOULDN'T GET OFFENDED BY IT.
"I'm too white to be Black", This just reminded me of what Amber Rose said. She complained she never could fit into Black spaces all while dating Black men, being on Black reality TV shows, and being claimed by many Black people🤦🏽♀️It irks me how when Black people speak up we're accused of gatekeeping like it's wrong for us to be freaking for real🥴 It's always "think about the light skins" while they ignore dark skin Black people's struggles. The erasure🙄
And I didn't know how to say it but like you said, I notice biracial & 1/4 Black becoming representation of light skin Black people as well. Like in media when a Black character is needed & they just go oh well she's light skin- and then it throws the audience off because why are the elders & parents unambiguously Black and the kids are very light, with smaller noses, & 2c/3a hair🤨 Or it's supposed to be a diverse cast yet everyone is lighter than a toasted waffle🤨Or it's "Black af" yet nobody is dark skin, nobody has 4c hair, etc... It's weird and hard to explain but it's like some people try to make light = biracial always & although waffle colored(lol) I don't have that experience(or the curl pattern they expect from mixed ppl), my parents are Black. I've seen some people claim that very light Black folks with Black parents could be considered white too😵💫so um they lost me there because I've never seen a Black person with albinism and thought they were white and every other light skin Black person I know is still visibly Black. It's like they want to find any kind of way to include folks like Logic or Amber Rose with the "What about light skins!?" Me: "We will be alright- oh wait you're talking about the Logics of the world."
Key words “Your country” The United States has a different approach to how we define our ethnic group identity. Foreign countries and foreigners don’t get to define it anymore than Black Americans define other ethnicities. Just recently a South African singer said she was colored and not Black. Well in America colored is an offensive term and no longer used. But her group insisted on using the term without considering they are in someone else’s culture and country. Just respect the culture and country you’re in or speaking on. Americans deserve the same respect as everyone else. What you do in your country doesn’t matter in the US.
I found also that a lot of people don't know the difference between bi-racial and mixed race. Mixed race can be any person mixed with 1 or more races and can include biracial people. But bi racial is only a person who is literally half one race and half another race. I have seen several people like Logic who claimed to be biracial but actually their parent is biracial and that biracial parent then married a non black person. So Logic is a YT man with black ancestry. So is Mariah, Amber Rose, etc. Sometimes people will argue that we are all mixed but have 5, 10, 17 percent ancestry does not make you able to claim a race. At least not in the case of black ppl. They like to use the excuse that nobody is truly purely one race. That we all are mixed with something. By that logic american black people should be able to claim any race since we are all so mixed up. I also notice that a lot of ppl pick and choose who to claim as black and who to reject. Usually mixed women no matter how white she presents gets to claim black while a mixed guy like Logic has to "fight" to claim blackness. So I do see where some of the mixed ppls confusion and frustration lies amongst the other identity issues they face.
This makes me think about the trauma that I have from dating SOME mixed people dealing with that "racial panic" (you described that so well). They made a mockery or ignored my grievances regarding Colorism but expected me to console and listen to them when it comes to their identity issues.
I'm St. Lucian & Guyanese, but ppl like to lump it as you're Caribbean without realizing that the culture from one country to another differs. It's funny you mention mixed ppl tend to date mixed. I married someone who is Japanese & Filipino.
@elizekelly I think you're misunderstanding what I'm saying. Some of the ppl that I've met in the U.S (at least those I've met) assume that everyone in the Caribbean as a whole has the exact same cultural norms.
@@theonlyem0hique I think that happens because when people who have parentage from the Caribbean are born and raised in America for example, they don’t themselves take up individual identities at least not at large. Outside of a flag they themselves and the presence on the internet-promotes being generally “Caribbean “ w/o any nuance.As opposed to seeing “my families from Saint Kitts”, or your case, being St. Lucian, ppl just rep being Caribbean or West Indian at large.Only in specific instances, will they speak up to the specific country and even then I see a time and time again that people with heritage from other Caribbean countries will try to check or correct them saying “we all do the same things”. The identity here has become a hodgepodge of just “ Caribbean Ness” at large with the exceptions and only sometimes being Haiti, Jamaica and Guyana. People here thrive on a one Caribbean identity to the point that I’m seeing a push for it to be more flat and all inclusive with countries like Belize and Costa Rica, Honduras,Panama so it gives the impression of we’re all very very similar with little differences even though I know there are differences. Just given an outside perspective of something I’ve noticed happening over the past decade or so years.
@@theonlyem0hiqueYou’re not understanding that part of American culture is to lump foreigners into regions. People get you have an individual culture but everyone isn’t interested in knowing or adapting to your culture. The expectation is that if you’re in America then it’s your responsibility to adapt to the local culture.
@elizekelly why so much heat for no reason? The islands a culturally and linguistically diverse. It would be similar to ppl calling someone only European when their parents are Polish and Portuguese.
@@justjules2029 All of your comments on here are giving xenophobia. 🙄 What has this topic or her comment go to do with adapting to American culture? Please go spout your patriotic rhetoric somewhere else. It’s getting tired.
This must be one if not the best videos u put out on colorism! Mayowa u that gyal and we thank you for speaking on this nuisance that only we see & feel. I thank u infinitely for being you
My daughter asked my husband and I what race her children would be and, in sync, my husband and I said it depends on the race of man you marry and have children with. My then 7 y/o daughter understood that concept. I don’t know why these adults have such a hard time understanding the same concept. If you can’t teach your children their true racial identity, you should not have children with a person of another race. The kids grow up being confused and traumatized.
I really appreciated your comment about how multiethnic experiences are neither placed at the forefront of discussion nor given much grace. I’m half Jamaican, half Ghanaian ethnically and my nationality is African-American since I was born here. Boyyyyy the experiences I’ve had lol
Lots of good points were made in this video, ones that I think mixed folks should take in. I also wanted to add this information to help others understand why so many mixed people, especially ones that pass for White, so adamantly stake their claim as being Black. In a lot of mixed families, the Black family members at an early age will instill ethnic pride in their children. In my case, I am mixed but I am white passing (I look like Halsey). My father and all the members of my Black family made sure to tell me every chance they could growing up that I was Black and not to forget that, deny that, or let people tell me I wasnt Black. Now I never walked around telling people I was only Black; I always said I was mixed because I never denied any part of me. But, I had to learn for myself (and leave the South) and teach myself, that being perceived as Black is an entirely different experience than something I would ever know and therefore I needed to check a lot of things (my white privilege, how I am perceived by the world, and what me claiming myself as Black was doing to the melanated people around me). That is why, while I claim and respect my Blackness, I would not and do not identify as a person of color because I am not melanated. A lot of mixed folks have to go on this journey and unlearn shit (and get checked/educated by our Black friends) and a lot of us (especially those in the South) have not sat down with these questions and analyzed how it affects themselves and others. Its hard not to be defensive about your Blackness when you have been indoctrinated by your family to think about yourself in a certain light and to fight back when someone tries to deny a part of you. Maybe that can explain where some mixed folks and their defensiveness comes from.
I hear what you are saying but in having this type of upbringing do they not explain the intersections? I ask bc I am from the south where I have met some very down to earth biracials that weren’t interested in oppressing nor using blk ppl as stepping stones. They claimed their blackness, fought for blk but NEVER felt that it was their place to speak over blk voices. If they were questioned on the blk experience(happened often) they would direct the attention to blk ppl or if darkest in the room, speak from the blk perspective. Amanda Seale is a great example of this. Her commentary centers blk, not the medium.
Do you know why they do that? It’s just to make you feel included. They don’t really mean it. Since Slavery Blk ppl been brain washed into appeasing and feeling more sympathy for white passing and biracial individuals. They already know once you learn the truth between black and white people you’re going to wonder why they made that conscious decision to be with their oppressor.
@@citizencoy4393 thank you for your comment and question. Unfortunately, in my situation my family did not teach me intersectionality or about privileges. Hell, they hardly talked about me passing as White and what that meant or how I would be perceived, the conversations I could and could not participate in. They did not speak on systemic oppression directly, they would talk about unfair treatment by police and oppression they faced in the past, but they oddly never talked about the broader barriers black people faced, or things like colorism, texturism, or featurism. They just told me I had a right to be at the table of black folks conversations and never got deeper into it. These were things I had to learn from going to college and having genuine conversations with other black folks and friends. This is also why I listen to great TH-cam commentators such as this one to help me better learn and understand these things. While I never intentionally stepped on toes or spoke over people or thought I could speak on certain topics, I also did not check my privileges at the door and was ignorant and likely hurtful in certain situations to people I cared for because of it. And it is not my friend's jobs to teach me all this, I know that, which is why I follow Black content creators to learn for myself. I do know that not all Southern mixed families are this way, and that other families openly talk about intersectionality and the other things I mentioned to prepare their child to be an understanding ally in Black spaces without hurting or demeaning people. the reason I stated the South is really because I notice the 'one-drop rule' is more rampant and defended down South than I have noticed from living on the West coast and Midwest. Its like my family wanted to tell me I was Black growing up to instill that pride, but also thought I looked too White to teach me about the Black experience more then just surface level things... they failed me in that way.
Great video! For the record, the world is changing. "Biracial people or mixed race people" don't have to identify as Black anymore. The world has changed. And Black people especially, need to let this one drop rule go!!
@@moremiaj4786we don’t have an actual % in today America for what’s mixed vs admixture. Most blk Americans if not all or of course mixed of involuntary and voluntary but many definitely have recent mixed ancestry (mixed ppl date other mixed ppl which is just blk in America). And I always hear republicans talk about how bad the 1 drop rule is but never talk about y mulatto was removed or the % logic of it. So America overall hypocrites and until race logic is here, HISPANIC will be considered a race and anyone with obvious African ethnic, no matter how mixed they look will be blk(the only difference today is if someone has a parent marked as white then ppl consider them mixed vs generational mixed). The link I showed u is someone half white on dna test but full blk in America
@@moremiaj4786 I know that in the U.S. we are known for having identity crisis issues, lol, but...where are you referring to? The UK? I am in a bunch of mixed race groups online and in them, over the years, with respect to anyone mixed with black and something else, there is a lot of discussion and disagreement with one major division: biracial ppl who choose to i.d. as one race, only, and those who are firmly only i.d.ing as mixed. There's a third camp that feels it's up to individuals to choose and that it's not their place to gatekeep - interestingly, many of them still would say they are black, themselves, but not all. Overwhelmingly, in these groups, more ppl mixed with black than not will gravitate towards i.d.ing as black, even ppl living over in Europe, although it's less. Not so much in South America and there are small contingents of colored South Africans who definitely don't jive with that. They are pretty prideful in upholding their mixed heritage and while there is some arrogant personalities that show themselves, their position really made a lot of sense. Too bad South Africa got racial identity right all while still maintaining racist hierarchy and now it seems they never resolved a whole lot of problems they've got.
I agree with everything you said, especially as a dark skinned woman, who is the darkest in my colorist a$$ family. I think you should give Logic a little grace, however. His mother is white, yes, but she was horribly abusive to him, calling him the n word and many other slurs. His half brothers, on his dad's side were much darker than him, and if I can recall, they wholly embraced him and treated him like an actual human being. So in his case, I can completely understand him talking about his half-blackness and being much closer to black culture as opposed to white. By default he absolutely does have certain privileges, but I don't think it's fair to place all light skinned/white passing bi-racials under the same unbrella. I can't believe I'm saying this because I have a plethora of negative stories and issues concerning them, but fair is fair, and they go through a lot of ish too.
He’s still not black. He has black American heritage but cannot identify as a black man. He can definitely tell people about his black American heritage though
I think about cultural/ ethnic identity frequently. I'm a Black American woman raising a son who is half Nigerian. I feel guilt at times that I can't teach the language and culture of his dad. My ex is around, but we disagreed about how important it was for our son to learn Yoruba, so he didn't teach it to him. He's only 5, but it already feels like it's too late. My son rejects a lot of his dad's culture because it feels unfamiliar. I hope they'll get closer as he gets older. I love the culture I share with my parents. It's essential.
can he connect with anyone on his dad's side? that happens a lot. my friend is nigerian and his parents didn't teach him Yoruba either and he wishes they had.
I literally love your makeup! It inspires me because I’ve never been a huge fan of makeup but I LOVE eyeshadow and I wish I knew how to do it. Have you or would you ever consider doing a tutorial/grwm?
I keep hearing this girl’s “poetry” in my head at random parts of the day and laugh so hard every time!! This is like my fourth time rewatching it. She sounds so goofy, I can’t believe she’s so unaware…but then, I can believe it!
This is the reason why I said your skin tone doesn't make you anything. Its what your parents are. If they are both African, then you are African or Black.
Storm from X-Men is canonically half African American and half Kenyan, but in the comics or movies they never explore the complexities of her multi-ethnic black experience. They only explore the fact that she’s African (in honestly extremely stereotypical ways) or they erase her Africanness at all, in the movies they even casted her as biracial TWICE. I’d love to see Storm’s roots in Harlem and Kenya explored.
We have to write our own stories is the only answer
Wow I never knew she was half Kenyan 😫
Well that would require accurate representation and we know they hate that for us.
In the comic she married T’Challa and takes her rightful place as a Queen. It would be amazing to have a movie! Here she is with all this power but she also has this diaspora to cross and cultures to not only re-explore but must understand before she can be expected to lead the people of Wakanda.
@@carolinegardner8214Lmao "our own stories" always has the man black as night and the woman pale skinned as hell. The solution is SELF LOVE LONG BEFORE the movies.
Bi-ethnic. I never knew how to explain it. My father is Ghanaian and my mom Black-American and the nuances of being in both spaces is wild.
Am also bi-ethnic, my two parents are from Africa. My mom from West Africa (Senegal) and my dad from Central Africa (Congo). This is not a common mix, I'd say we are kinda rare then and from now on. Even in this case where the countries are not that far, the differences are still a lot. We have been solely raised as Senegalese (and French) Africans. Our father didn't taught us about this home-country and culture. When he could because he raised us with our mother. He has always been in our lives and still is like our mother.
Same here both of my parents are Jamaican but my mom’s great great grandparents were enslaved black Americans who traveled and settled in Jamaica and my family always grew up celebrating/acknowledging our DOCAS ancestry which is extremely taboo in the Caribbean community where alot in the islands have DNA/ancestors connections to African Americans
Yes! I was born in Jamaica, grew up in a Jamaican household, but going to American schools and interacting with African American culture was challenging. I was constantly trying to code switch in the attempt to fit in, but I still struggle with it
Bi- cultural
BoHeaux… this is far more interesting than the uninteresting entitled mixed race people…
It's sickening to see people bending over backwards to claim a shred of Black ancestry because they think being "marginalized" gives them some type of social cred. And that poem was horrific.
😂😂😂
That white lady's poem made me feel so insulted. It was definitely horrible. And she tried to use a "blaccent". It felt so minselry-ish. It was offensive.
They do the same thing with claiming being "indigenous." White people are having a identity crisis
Jonah Hills in 22 Jump Street managed to be far less cringey 😂
I have white Hispanics that married into the family (mom’s side) my African uncle married a Cuban. One of my aunt’s family friends has a son that likes to claim that that he’s black (bc blk ppl have historically suffered) to look better 😂 that guy is one of the whitest hispanics.
I thought it was just a TikToker mocking biracial slam poetry at first 😭
Same 😂
😂😂😂😂😂😂
I thought she was doing a comedy skit but no one was laughing
Wait. It wasn’t?
Yeah, I’m in disbelief. That 25% “Black person” is reaching with that one. You’re White🤷🏾♂️💯
"You shouldn't expect people who have less privilege than you to console you!" 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
Right? And why is that idea even so difficult for these people?
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Hmmmn… but we do. Bleck women are obsessed with mixed race people , interracial couples and bleck men are determined to copulate with whike women and call their off spring bleck; you know like Kanye did with his children when he called his children bleck when he wanted black women to fight for him… absolutely NOT
@@HabitualLover, because if they do, they will also be confirming the privilege they try to deny though part take in and thus would prove that it needs to be stripped away. Biracial people don't want to give up their privilege no more than Whites want to give up theirs. Biracial Africans are fine with oppressing brown and darker-skinned Africans at the price of their acceptance within the Black community and even society.
You shouldn’t expect light skin people to cape for y’all either!! 🤷🏼♀💯
My DNA shows that I’m 25% white. I would look crazy as HELL walking around saying that I’m white!
Same! I’m 25% British/Irish and 3% Asian I’d get laughed out the country. Claiming anything other than Blk
@@TamTam9-15claim mixed or something. Mulatto would be the most accurate but when the 1 drop situation happened it was removed to let you know mixed with blk is full blk. Idk I identify as blk and seen mgm spaces consider a quarter something other than African and European still heavily mixed.
Say u mixed 🤷
Same! I got cousins on Facebook who think I am an animal! They don't care that the ancestries test can show us exactly who they are. 🤷🏾♀️
You are a black woman lol you should be proud.
My son is half Asian and Half Black. He's only 10 and he's never struggled with his biracial identity and probably never will because I make it clear to him he's both and that's beautiful. This is 100 precent the parents fault. I love that you mentioned bi ethnic Black people. Im also bi ethnic, Black American and Puerto Rican and would love to hear more stories about that as well.
That is why we love Miles Morales 🙌🏾🙌🏾
It's your age as well. Most people of his age will see themselves as biracial.
He is not both. You can’t be both pregnant and not-pregnant. You are either black or ain’t. It’s not really about genetics. It’s about where you fit within the white supremacist system. Culturally, they can be part of both worlds but not racially.
He’s definitely not both. Go to the Asian community and see if they see and treat him as Asian. The black community will embrace him but never the Asian and this is coming from someone with a half Indian and half black child on the way
@@Seancarter2010it doesnt matter what they see him as that is what he is. We shouldnt have to accept Mixed people purely because their other half denies them. It doesnt benefit us in the slightest. They need to carve out a space for themselves. Let them be biracial
As a Black man that loves black Superheroes seeing them drawn biracial Italian or tan white female irritates me because doesn't that shows Anti-Blackness
Yes…yes it sure does!
It sure does! Thank you for pointing this out!
They like to do this with the character Storm quite often. She's a dark skinned Kenyan black woman but is depicted in films by biracial women. SMH
Black superheroes were made by WM. 🤡
@@meiko2164 The thing is, even when fictional characters are created by us, the Colorism is still prevalent.
All i can think of is Drake and his son.
Me too....Drake is one thing but his son is definitely white😅
The durags and cornrows kill me EVERY TIME!!!
A KING & his little prince! 🤴 Love to see it! 💞
@@michalovesanimethat boy has fricking blue eye and blonde here. Why do we have to pretend
@@Seancarter2010 And this maya girl looks like an older female version of Drake’s son. It’s weird bcuz I always see wp going hard on any black person that calls the son black by saying stuff like, “he’s not even black, he’s white”. They don’t really use quadroon. Just like how they see Andrew tate as white. But somehow they still call Halsey biracial/ mixed when they could clearly see she’s not. All of them are wyte js. It just seems like they’ll claim the guys as wyte regardless, but use mixed/ biracial as the new term for ww and ethnic ww. Like Zendaya in KC Undercover being casted as a blk girl. And some wp do think that Zendaya is wyte or ethnic wyte. Or when wp thought Meghan Markle was a ww back in Suits until she started dating Harry.
Then ppl like Carmen Ejogo, Amandla stenberg, or just less euro-looking mixed women are labeled as blk by default, which are often casted to replace bw, unless it’s an extremely stereotypical role. Then wp are obsessed with casting bw especially dsbw. They rarely ever cast the Mason Gooding and Vin Diesel types as a bm. There’s obviously an agenda to replace/ disrespect bw in the media.
13:45 "People enjoy seeing white people (light skin/ambiguous people) as the image of blackness." That is deep! I heard someone say about their experiences in exclusive, high profile spaces that they, an ambiguous biracial person with light eyes, were always the blackest person in the room.
Hmmmn 🤔. Really!!!
This reminds me of Misty Copeland’s experience as a professional Ballerina at an Elite Ballet theater. Even though she is very ambiguous everyone else in the theater is Lily white, and the instructors always criticized her “black” features when it came to her performances
@@shashuabates1310 It's similar how Japanese are using Whites to represent anime and India utilizing Ukranian models as "Indian" models. It's a lack of racial pride
@@DrUmarJohnson1ms japan is fuckin Ukrainian bruh like this really makes no sense.
@@DrUmarJohnson1 Unless an anime character is stated otherwise or has an English name or something, they are Japanese lol. having blue eyes or light hair hair is a stylistic choice bc it's a cartoon, just like marge simpson having blue hair and yellow skin even though she's understood to be white.
What’s particularly nasty about what Ms quadroon is saying about her “black identity” being negated is that she’s leaving off the asterisk. She isn’t upset that she doesn’t feel oppression. She’s upset that she doesn’t get to benefit from the cool parts of blackness as if you can just split that shit apart. I love being black, but I also know there’s a good chance someone might tell me they’re surprised I’m professional at work. (That is a REAL THING someone told me at my last job).
Why did they feel comfortable talkin to you like that?🤔
That was an unprofessional thing for them to say!
@justme2272 bc some people weird as hell. I had a yt coworker show me a pic of her in black face like out of nowhere. I have no idea why she felt comfortable enough to do that
@@docfabz woow ... I just have no word
@@docfabz smdh 😒 you gotta put up some sortve boundary to where they ✋️ even approachin you wit the bs cause no.
this conversation is so important!!!! i am biracial and “white passing” and i do not understand how other “white passing” biracials/mixed race people consider themselves to have ANYY of the same experiences as black people. we are not black !! and that’s okay. i feel like even speaking to my mom growing up i realized very early on that my experience in life is not the same as hers or other black people’s especially dark skin individuals. it’s insane to think otherwise and like you mention it’s completelyyyyy inappropriate to try to compare our experiences and speak on any black issues. the pedestal white biracials are put on is absurd
Thank you for your comment and understanding.
Was ur mom black? Cuz there seems to be a trend that black moms teach their biracial daughters the difference between black spaces and mixed spaces.
Thank you for being honest because we’re tired 😒
ngl I'm mixed too and I had this same experience when I was younger. Even though I can empathize with my mom's experiences, and even though I look ambiguous, it was always obvious to me that our experience and how we're treated would never in a million years be the same.
This is fucking stupid.😂
the eye makeup is giving
Right! ❤
*I’ve never subscribed to the one drop rule. Show me your people (parents) and that’s who U are.*
But thats not how it was for hundreds of years. The reason most black Americans are mixed already is because mulatto have existed within black families in America for generations. It's not new to be biracial or mixed. So what happened to all the mixed people who didn't pass as white, or who had one drop? They are grouped as black, for hundreds of years, so now the black race in America means "mixed".
This isn't the same as Africans who have never mixed. There are Africans in Africa who if they take 23andMe they are 90 or even 100% African and not just that, but specific to their region of Africa. The genes are no longer the same.
The one drop rule is racist. But the concept of black and white also are racist.
Exactly! Fucc the rest.
@@lucianp2616 Who grouped them? I’m not concerned about Europeans classification of mixed races people. Who are your parents? If one is black and the other, is other. U are that. The math is simple.
*No other race of people plays this game. Are the Japanese claiming Naomi Osaka? White folk still act like Obama mama ain’t white. I’m all for claiming our half or percentage but acting like the white parent don’t exist is delusional.*
*U can’t throw people in our (black) group b/c dominant society deems them unworthy to be in theirs. This is why Black people looking like 2% milk right now.*
@@lucianp2616 the reason why most mix people in the past could blend in the black community easily is because most had black mothers/comes from the womb that created the community. Now, most of the mix/my racial people have white mothers and are screaming on the Internet that they can’t relate to the warm of which they came from because it will never be white. there are biracial in my family/friends but the ones with white moms are usually problematic not saying the ones from black mothers cannot be. But usually the ones from black mom are given the opportunity to weakness races in firsthand what their mother goes through and so it creates a soft/caring affection towards Black people. Just research it and observe the difference between the black/white womb biracial.
@@lucianp2616
From the Oahspe bible
Book of Judgement Chapter 37:1-6
1 God said: Do you think, O man, that your God goes about accomplishing a work without a system & order
2 Truely, these are the first of my considerations
3 First I send my Loo'is, my masters of generations, down to the earth, to the nation and peoples where l intend to build my edifice.
4 And my Loo'is by inspiration, control the marriages of certain mortals, so that heirs may be born into the world suited to the work I have on hand.
5 Towards this end, my loo'is labour for many generstions, raising up thousands and tens of thousands of mortal heirs according to my commandments.
Thus not everyone is mixed 💜
Thank you for pointing out bi ethnic. I’m African American and Nigerian and I feel like bi ethnic Black stories are overshadowed or ignored for biracial stories. Lots of spaces can be very polarizing within the diaspora as well. Think it has to do with our society generalizing blackness into one conglomerate.
we need to appreciate dual ethnics ourselves. . I am a biracial male but what folk do not know is that on my continental african side i am actually bi-ethnic . My mam is Swati/San but she was raised as a Zulu girl . I am a swati and Zulu speaker although my Zulu is the only language that i perfected.
i like all types of Black people . whether from the continent of from the US or the carribean. i can admit that i have a soft spot for carribean as a whole . maybe because they usually don't deny african heritage like african americans.
ADOS men aren’t checking for y’all that’s why! 💯💯 Biracial is more common than bi-ethnic
I am also bi-ethnic. I'm African/Black American(dad) and Afro-latina(Mom was born and raised her but her parents weren't). Growing up I always felt stuck between a rock and a hard place.
Agreed!
“Race is phenotypical. Race is how you are perceived” SAY IT LOUDER FOR THE PEOPLE IN THE BACK !!!!
“Race is how you are perceived” things I wanna get a skywriter for
@SaschaVassell1804why do you think Obama is classified as black
So is species
#protect black women’s identity # protect African women’s identity
Let me ask you a question. Are North Africans who are indigenous to the region considered black? What if they are more African than most black American people?
See the issue? It's not clear what exactly black even is. So why defend a phenotype? We know what Africans are, they are tribal.
#ProtectLightSkinAmericanWomen from y’all dusty immigrants
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Protect Afro-Caribbean women.
@@CaribbeanGlow yes! And them too… thanks
“You know where they should be doing it, babe? At therapy.” HILAROUS AND TRUE.
baby when i tell you i cackled , I CACKLED!
I hate when people play in my face.
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This comment was random and I need it lol
When you said people love seeing white people as the image of blackness I started cackling because it’s so true and it’s actually ridiculous I’m just imagining if it were reversed bwahaha!
Just look at Beyonce and the country music people.
Omg! When you said “you’re 50% ⚪️ and get with someone 100% ⚪️ why did you think that child would be a super knee-grow.” Liiiiiike, The race to make Megan Markle a sister was frustrating to me 😂
This and Megan don’t have no black friends sooooo why black people claiming her 😂
@@JaeElise she has a black mother. why does she have to prove herself?
@@babypicassoeisenstein never said she had too. Don’t put words in my mouth. The one drop rule doesn’t work over here . She’s not black, she’s mixed.
There no need to prove anything. She doesn't look black..@@JaeElise
Black women claimed Megan for the same reason they claim other Biracil African women to be able to associate with her accomplishments as a "Black" woman. It is the same reason that if Black women saw Zendaya on the cover of a magazine, they'd scream, "Black Girl Magic," even though Zendaya, like Megan, isn't Black but Biracial. Black women live vicariously through Biracial African women all the time. I don't know why, though at the same time, they complain about not getting the representation they deserve while also telling the same people that they told the Biracial African woman is "Black" that the Biracial African woman (need I not remind you is supposed to be a "Black" woman) shouldn't represent them and are erasing Black woman, especially Black women with Brown and Dark skin. All the while, African men and women continue to procreate them. But I don't know. Maybe it's just me. 🤔
Had a “friend” like the slam poetry girl. Had to block her ass after some shit happened like this.
Why do they wanna struggle and be oppressed SO BAD.
I personally don't befriend them; I've learned my lesson far too many times as a DSBW. People can call me whatever they want, IDC, I rightfully keep anyone with an identity crisis out of my circle.
It's not that they want to be oppressed. They want to be the new Black woman. They know they get more privileges and they are worshipped by Black people just like Halle Berry, Zendaya, Paula Patton, Stacey Dash, and all the other biracial and mixed race people.
@@doll.ov.poetrii4682why are you racist?
Your channel is very educational, Mayowa!!
I’m black and native Brazilian, and you helped me deconstruct my own colorism, which is a HUGE problem here. (I think you mentioned in another video a short documentary about how a Brazilian black woman was severely bullied and lost her title as a Globeleza during Carnival for being dark skinned. It didn’t change much since then, and that happened in 2016).
Thanks to you I realized how badly I tried to mask my black features to be treated better (such as my 4b hair that I struggled a lot to embrace), and how that by itself is a privilege. Also how to use that privilege to help and empower other black people around me that unfortunately only have access to the mostly anti-black media we have here. Please never stop posting videos!! They’re incredibly necessary 🙏🏽
thank you so much!!!
I've noticed that when mixed people talk about mistreatment , black people are always considered jealous.
But I never hear them say white people were jealous, which they also can be.
Just because some black people didn't like you doesn't mean that they're jealous
Because y’all are jealous! 🤣
@meiko2164 why should a full black person be jealous of someone who is half or only 25% black?
Mixed people are also jealous that they don't get the black cool points.
@@Kayla-kd8ov Cool points? lol. Y’all are jealous of our beauty and the fact that your own men prefer us! 🤣💅🏻✨
@meiko2164 so you don't think you're black? Because the way you excluded yourself from 'your own men prefer us'
Yet everytime black people wanna talk about blackness, you guys always want to be centre stage. How does that work?
@@Kayla-kd8ov They're black only when they feel like it. Actual black people can't jump in and out of blackness whenever we feel like it, we're black all day, everyday.
Is the black in the room with us?
Please! Someone pin this comment 🤣🤣🤣👏🏾❤️
Lmao!! Hahahaha😂
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I love your make up! I'm black and white. I'm kinda/am white passing. I personally identify ad biracial. My boyfriend is Indian. If/when we have kids I would not encourage them to identify as black.
@@jellyrcw12as you should
As a mixed person (half rwandan and half swiss) I would also LOVE to hear more stories from bi-ethnic people. I have someone in my family who is congolese and rwandan and there is so much difficult history between these two nations and it would be interesting to hear stories like theirs.
Congolese and Rwandans are both bantu and black so it's different from your story. Maybe try those Afrocentric groups, not here
It's a bit of a mindscrew that she also is using a very African-American/Black American style of poetry popularized by Sonia Sanchez then imitated in the 90s by a new crop of Black youth with parents from everywhere. Her pauses, flair, movement-ALL Black American- her "rejected" side but no smoke for Whites who tend to be afraid of potentially dark kids.
That didn’t come from Sonia Sanchez. She copied that from Black Americans. Can we please stop rewriting history?
@@justjules2029 there's never just one person. But her style was greatly influence. But to directly reply to you. How embarrassing to be arrogantly ignorant🤦🏿♀️🤣. Prof Sanchez is a Black woman from the U.S. with U.S. roots. Your xenophobic AntiBlackness is showing🙄. (Bizarre then that you're on this philosopher and teacher's channel, given her roots.) P.S. Sanchez was a marital last name.
@@justjules2029 She's absolutely correct, and Sonia Sanchez is African-American.
One thing I notice with most if not all racialized black ppl (partially black ppl as well lol👀) is we don’t always wanna admit to our own anti-blackness when we bring up other black ppl’s anti-blackness . My dad’s igbo and my mom’s a black american (black descendant of enslaved Africans), so I notice both groups (me too sometimes) don’t always like to admit their anti-blackness.
i found that we rarely if ever a configuration where the actual dad is african american and the mother continental african. colorism sure plays a role here. American black men are chief colorists
Cuz ppl don’t like to take accountability but you have to understand the reasoning behind the conflict. Yts mislead all Black people into thinking that we are against one another.
This is so true👏🏾!
@@PHlophe this is kinda what I’m talking abt like you’ve pointed out an observation (and maybe you’re right bc I don’t think I’ve ever seen the reverse coupling either so maybe it’s less common). You’re bringing up American black men’s colorism and nobody else’s, but you’re not wrong for doing that. I’m conflicted bc i know we have to single out black American men bc their anti-blackness is a specific problem and each black person’s anti-blackness is different. Maybe we’re supposed to single out ppl’s anti-blackness without forgetting our own bc it’s all connected.
@@ragdoll774Punitive colorism is rife across the board and its true. and like all forms of oppressions there are toxic flavors depending on where you live. i found that what separate continental african mens' colorism and african american mens' is the fact that the US dude would actively fight to remove dark skin from his lineage. everyone wants a version of an idealized Brazilian with brown hair and loose locs .
, as men we all do mental math about how our kids could/would look like i knew i'd have kids with different hues . i have a dark skinned daughter you would not believe the type of sheit i've heard disguised as fake compliments. because i onno why a lot of BP believe as Black folk we can't read one another lol!
13:04 Yes! Knew this woman in college that constantly talked about being oppressed but looked like a 100% white woman, I didn’t even find out she was black till a year later from a friend. Not only would she constantly talk about being an oppressed black woman herself, she also said this about her kids. I thought that maybe her kids father was black but found out from another friend that those kids were straight up white. All in all, I just wish they would acknowledge that they easily pass for white and that it is extremely offensive to black people.
If she didn't look blk that means she wasn't!
Literally was just having this conversation. I will never cry over mixed tears when they talk about not being “accepted” by black people. You’re not black, you’re mixed and that’s okay. Stop trying to pander to black people and equate your middle school bullying to the black experience in the world
And there is a soft movement of mixed people online who want to define themselves as separate from black people, to me this is great, but the contents of their video is 90% anti black trying to accuse black people of not accepting their mixed-ness and being less accepting than white people despite that confessions from mixed people (including Logic) dhow that it's the opposite
I say that all the time. You’re not black, you're mixed and that's okay!
Isn't race what other people see you as? Every time I get pulled over the cops label me as black. If the law and other people always treat me as black, then does it matter if I consider myself mixed?
@@jasminejacob1870 how does that statement even make an ounce of sense? People thought Rachel Dolezal was black… does that make it true? Lol get real
@rachel1729 the only statement I made was that cops and people I meet label me as black. I don't understand why that statement doesn't make sense. My other sentences were genuine questions. If you would answer those questions, I'd be better able to understand your position.
Logic is delusional 😮
we need to start a logic aint black petition atp 😂 bro is as “black” as drakes son
@@karithewarlock 😂😂😂🤣😂
@googisfree hmmn 🤔ok. A bit like bleck people who have upto 25% admixture. Thx
@@deecee4310literally not the same thing
Not anymore delulu than divestors! 🤡
They try to act like black rejection is worse than white oppression and that pisses me off
Omg THIS!!!!!!
Get used to being pissed off then femcel! 🤷🏼♀
For the most part, it really isn't worse, that's true and I agree. In general, let's say, I think you're right. But let's not be disingenuous, speaking in too many generalities or absolutes or become an echo chamber about it.
I'm not one of them, but I can absolutely see why some people would say that it is because some mixed with black folk have actually had some really bad experiences with black people. Like, legitimately. You can believe that or not but you cannot invalidate someone's lived experience that has caused genuine trauma for them. Jus' sayin'.
On a smaller scale, too, I have been told I'm half an abomination for being half white, by a black percenter. Then, because I'm mixed, my parents were race traitors and I'm also a race traitor (traitor to the black community, that is) for having dated other mixed people who were also half white, one of whom was half white and half Asian, no black. Really? I don't think so.
That wasn't traumatic and I've experienced worse, most notably from white folks, and literally one Hispanic girl, to be honest, but still, it was unsettling and it's a small drop of what can lead on to a more extreme presentation of being judgemental or narrow in mind, in my opinion.
I would really not like to see more and more black people follow suit of what has already been enacted by white counterparts. I do hope to see the black community gain strength and traction, heal and flourish. Coming with rhetoric that identifies white people or people who are a part of that diaspora by first generation mix as being evil, devil or part devil is not the way to overcome or to upwards mobility, I don't think.
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Gorgeous makeup, and your hair is 🔥!
I am so glad you made this video. I have biracial family members, and may have biracial children and I do my best to help them understand how privilege works and why Black children may be hostile to them, and kinda how they get tunnel vision. They focus on the Black kids not accepting them and not on how their white peers push away the Black kids in the first place. There's also this entitlement to being accepted when Black people aren't even accepted by other Black people, and same with white people. Like, not everyone is going to be your friend and that's okay. Bullying is different but a lot of the time they're not bullying, they're just not putting them on a pedestal.
I’m a mom of a multi ethnic bi racial mixed black girl lol and I taught her this her entire life. Even in a loving way you can teach your kids that because it’s important to prepare them to stand strong in their identity. She’s a teen so I be like “ girl, you crying over these braids but your hair is not no real black girl hair! “ and she cracks up lol her friends are all chopped & screwed too (mixed, lol that’s what we call her friends) so I reckon I have to be honest with how unambiguous black people perceive her too. Her best friend is Guyanese, and Jamaican but he looks like he’s Samoan with yt skin, and asiatic eyes. His mom is biracial multi ethnic, and her mom is black Jamaican. I say that to say, he considers himself a boy of color, but he is not black. His mom is biracial, but he himself isn’t black even though that’s the culture he’s growing up in. And there’s absolutely nothing wrong with teaching them this ! Just keep it real !
@@Delflorpademin Guyana, Mixed is its own category regardless of skintone or appearance. So yeah, he had better identify as Mixed. If he comes to Guyana and rejects all of his ancestors he would get the side eye.
@@adalheidisofadamahcaptaino18Aye fellow Guyanese! My mom is a black Guyanese woman. My father is mixed and mostly white so they thought of him as white in Guyana. Meanwhile, me and my siblings were called yellow by our relatives. It's mainly Americans refusing to accept mixed as mixed. Most places arounds the world don't have this issue
You think you’re helping these biracial children in your family? By making excuses for why black kids are hostile and abusive towards them and suggesting they should be sympathetic towards people hurting them? Pre-assigning privilege or victimhood status to people is unbelievably detrimental to mental health and pathology. I wish somebody would try and tell me that a biracial or white woman has more privilege than me!
You are an horrible auntie. You’re so obsessed with being pro-whack that you shrug off bullying & abuse. 🤡
I feel like I just had an out of body experience watching that "confessions of a quadroon".... like for a moment I thought I was still watching an episode of Abbot Elementary because I cannot believe what came out of that woman's mouth
you are a treasure to this world and this internet
Such a great vid! I'm reminded of when I was living in Austria and was attending this majority Black women's meeting and the topic of mixed raced kids came up. A lot of the Black women there have kids that are half Black and half White. The way the conversation went...all I can say is I can understand why these kids grow up with weird ideas around their race. I'm a firm believer that it starts at home for most of these problematic folks
Would love for you to expand upon the the conversations you heard
@@obscurity87Probably involved self hate, texturism, and colorism.
but people always say having a black woman as a mother means you're less likely to have identity issues as a mixed child. interesting.
Yes, it starts at home...normally by the black parent shoving blackness down their mixed race child's throat..so the child grows up confused and with hate...black people try that alot in south africa and fail...because mixed race people here stand up and stick with their own ..so it doesn't have the same effect as America where mixed race people are exposed to the elements with no buffer
I’m also annoyed by the self absorption and self importance of these narratives. The “woe is me” leaves zero room for recognition or acknowledgment of the real lived visceral Black experiences Black people endure. I’m half Black American half South Asian and I look predominantly Black (dark skin, West African features, tighter curl pattern) and even my ass knows that I’m afforded privileges and seen in a VERY different light when people find out I’m mixed… spoiler alert, I get treated better!!!! This reeks of self importance and “look at me look at me I’m Black can’t you see!!!” Like why don’t yall stop asking Black folks to validate your identity? Don’t you think they’re doing enough? Don’t you think it’s a little self centered? To me it speaks to deeper sense of entitlement - that your lived experience deserves more exploration and recognition than others. This is why I’ve stepped away from participating in mixed race spaces. I have found them to be tone deaf far too often. I also struggle with these spaces given the way I look i.e. not looking “mixed enough” whatever that means. Well we all know what that means. I’m so tired of this narrative. Thank you Mayowa for all the amazing work you do 🙏🏾 been watching for a minute and felt so compelled to comment on this one.
Thank you for sharing this. We don’t often hear the perspectives of biracial people who look predominantly black or actually have dark skin and don’t fit the stereotypical ‘mixed-race look.’ I’m a dark skinned Senegalese and Torres Strait Islander woman born in Australia. The latter is considered black but not African, so I’ve had a lot of interesting experiences growing up and I can’t relate to a lot of the experiences of ambiguous/white passing biracial people.
why pander, though? instead of supporting other mixed women and since you evidently have no identity issues, why not help mixed women instead of saying 'look, black people - I get it. THEY don't but I do'. Come on now.
@@babypicassoeisenstein Biracial people don't want to be helped. They want African people to accept their delusion, and some African people do. Some even encourage it.
@@babypicassoeisensteinhelp them do what…
And she explained her issues with mixed race spaces and youre too busy trying to make your stupid point to notice
“WRAP IT UP” 🗣️
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Thank was funny as hell.
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This video was 1000% on point. 👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
I love the eye shadow! Reminds me of pretty stain glass windows.
What are stank glass windows?
This Logic man is laughing in our faces
I thought he would be a bigger star than he is. He really just dissapread! 🤔
@@user-wi6cz4hh5b Thank goodness. I do not hear his music no more👏🏾🫠!
@@user-wi6cz4hh5b thank God
@@user-wi6cz4hh5bbecause he sucks
Logic is a KING 🤴
My favorite is Logic's lyric that says his dad is "black as the street."
So pathetic
when this mf said his “nigga daddy” and “cracker mama” i died and resurrected
Lmao. Was he fr?
@@vegannn7178 Yes! I From his song AfricAryaN - "Even though my daddy, you know he blacker than the street."
That’s lame ngl
As a Black and PR poet, There are spaces that I deemed safe for me and other black ppl, but noticed that there is a push towards allowing very pale or just YT women (never the men) in these spaces. It's for the mainstream appeal, the poetry has become so cringe it's uncomfortable. I have tried to avoid these spaces but the lack of gatekeeping is real.
OMG, yes to everythinnngggg.
I once had a little argument with my friend about J. Cole's race. He had called J. Cole Black and I'd said, nah, J. Cole is biracial. Like he has a whole white parent.
Why are we so quick to claim half Blacks and quarter Blacks as Black??? It's giving insecure. Also, it's disrespectful to their white parents and ancestors.
As always, I love your look. You look like a water spirit. 😍
Best compliment thank you!!!
This is the comment I came to hype!
"You know where you should be doing that, at therapy"
exactly!! you have a way with words!!
Yassss!!!! Silencing black women from speaking on their experiences is the answer
I hate that I get seen as jealous for simply being darkskin lol when I Love my melanin. 😂I use to wish I was darker like my mom/big sises whom I looked up to. It’s projection.
Yeah it's crazy when really it's the other way around. They are jealous of us!
Yeah they be delusional tbh. People love trying to humble dark skin girls but I don’t allow it.
@@satindoll7300let’s not flip things on each other not every lightskin or darkskin person are jealous of each other some of them actually are on both ends ..
@JustMeandGod_ gurl she said what she said. Yall will always call fully blk wm especially dsbw jealous wen alot of yall mixed women be jealous of fully blk women yall dman selves and have a superiority complex 😒 let's not be delusional
NO NO CAUSE THIS THING ABOUT PLUCKIN THE ANCESTORS OUTTA THIN AIR TO PROVE BLACKNESS IS SO SILLY. My parents are both white puerto ricans so obviously I'm also a white puerto rican, but awhile ago I found out that my mom lowkey IDENTIFIES AS BLACK. I was applying for college and put white & hispanic, and she scoffed at me and was like "we have black in us. think of your grandparents." BB WE GOT A WHOLE WALL MIRROR IN THE LIVING ROOM IN FRONT OF US. DO WE LOOK LIKE MY GRANDPARENTS? NO. Omg. I was flabbergasted.
Lol! That is wild. Im mixed race with no white and my family has told me to put mixed race, Asian, other, whatever I can vaguely hold onto if it will get my foot in the door. Like this is not the time to suddenly unfurl the ancestors
unfortunately this is so common 😭
Majority of Puerto Ricans identify as black. They're pseudo black😂😂😂
You seem to be missing the point. You can claim your ancestry, just don't go claiming you are only Black.
@@adalheidisofadamahcaptaino18 no one here is missing the point but you 💀
giving wonderful commentary on colorism as usual
your makeup always eats, love what you do ❤
Another great video 😍👏🏾🥰👏🏾 thank you Mayowa
THANK YOUUUUUU, the one drop rule is racist why keep it?!?
I thought the one drop rule only applied to mixed/Foundational Black Americans.
@@blazee3895No, it's an old outdated rule
@@SparkleInYourEyes2024 I thought it only applied to FBA.
@@blazee3895 Only ignorant FBAs hold onto that foolishness.
@@SparkleInYourEyes2024 Are you FBA?
There are some points I agree with but I don’t necessarily agree with all. It’s not always about systemic oppression it’s a sense of belonging. Biracial people can feel ostracised by both races (blacks and whites). Anyone can experience racism and it does happen to biracial people. I do understand that some biracial people are white passing but those who are not don’t always navigate so easy.
Acknowledging that biracials are biracials and not fully black or that they benefit from their proximity to whiteness is not saying they do not experience racism or they are not an extension of the black experience but their experience is not gonna be the same as a fully black person. They have their own unique experience and that is okay. No need to pretend that Logic's experience is gonna be the same as a non ambiguous black man.
You are right!
Thank you. Finally someone talking about this!! I remember talking to white ppl who said my opinion about extremely lightskin/white passing 'black' people was racist, they looking in my eyes, as a dark skin black woman that grew up in a surrounding where the only thing about me people saw was my darkness, the tightness of my coils etc telling me that me thinking we not the same is racist
Honestly, how can one sit there and claim only one aspect of themselves? As if the other race(s) they’re mixed with are nullified; it’s dang bonkers.
Side note: the colors you chose for your eyeshadow is giviiiiiiiing!! So radiant🥰
I love that you do these no script!
Wow… “White people as the image of blackness” I have chills and I am processing that!!! Thanks! Got a new subbie
😂😂 I love how you straight up asked for compliments on your looks at the end. Girl you know your makeup is always a hit! Your hair looks beautiful too. 💛
Insecure
Thank you for speaking sense!❤
Not only perceived but who your parents are….
Exactly. People keep forgetting that!
Exactly!! It’s literally that’s simple, it doesn’t matter how you look when mixed doesn’t have a specific look
@@Opinionatedcancerit's not about how mixed has no specific look. That's no one's burden. It's simply, mono racial people have a phenotypical standard. It supersedes the existence of their parents influence in a mixed person
@@chaosswa-ee-ty5911 don’t get what you’re saying???
@@chaosswa-ee-ty5911 That is the reason Africans need to stick to bloodlines, and this wouldn't be a problem along with the golden rule of "If you have non-African parents, then you are Biracial."
I luv your style like you’re posts/videos give me so much inspo🤍🧚🏿♀️
The way this rule makes no sense to me🙄. In my country mixed people don't have these problems, they admit they are mixed ( In most African countries i guess). I agree with everything you said cause if someone says they are 30% white they'd never claim whiteness so, why are you as a very mixed person claiming just one part of you? People can be mixed but you're going to be more of something than other, and I need to hear the nonsense of some black people saying "black people come in all shades"🙄girl bye that's not a black lightskin person we need to have a convo about how mixed people are not just being the face of blackness but also the representation of lightskin BLACK people. You forgot to add the " black people say I'm too white to be black and white people say I'm too black to be white" maybe cause you're MIXED🙃 AND THEN PROCEED TO SUCESSFULLY ENTER BOTH PLACES, MAINLY BLACK SPACES, BEING CONSIDERED THE PREFERENCE AND THE EXAMPLE OF "GOOD" HAIR AND SKIN AND HAVE A CAREER PROMOTED BY MOSTLY BLACK PEOPLE🥴.
ATT: I do understand the struggles that mixed people have and i see them as a part of our community but that does not take your privileges and make you a FULLY BLACK PERSON AND THEY SHOULDN'T GET OFFENDED BY IT.
"I'm too white to be Black", This just reminded me of what Amber Rose said. She complained she never could fit into Black spaces all while dating Black men, being on Black reality TV shows, and being claimed by many Black people🤦🏽♀️It irks me how when Black people speak up we're accused of gatekeeping like it's wrong for us to be freaking for real🥴 It's always "think about the light skins" while they ignore dark skin Black people's struggles. The erasure🙄
And I didn't know how to say it but like you said, I notice biracial & 1/4 Black becoming representation of light skin Black people as well. Like in media when a Black character is needed & they just go oh well she's light skin- and then it throws the audience off because why are the elders & parents unambiguously Black and the kids are very light, with smaller noses, & 2c/3a hair🤨 Or it's supposed to be a diverse cast yet everyone is lighter than a toasted waffle🤨Or it's "Black af" yet nobody is dark skin, nobody has 4c hair, etc...
It's weird and hard to explain but it's like some people try to make light = biracial always & although waffle colored(lol) I don't have that experience(or the curl pattern they expect from mixed ppl), my parents are Black. I've seen some people claim that very light Black folks with Black parents could be considered white too😵💫so um they lost me there because I've never seen a Black person with albinism and thought they were white and every other light skin Black person I know is still visibly Black. It's like they want to find any kind of way to include folks like Logic or Amber Rose with the "What about light skins!?"
Me: "We will be alright- oh wait you're talking about the Logics of the world."
clearly, some country try to copy this bs !! Stop it !
@@fae3821 Exactly, Fae! Let these folks know in Mayowa’s comment section🙌🏾🤪!
Key words “Your country” The United States has a different approach to how we define our ethnic group identity. Foreign countries and foreigners don’t get to define it anymore than Black Americans define other ethnicities. Just recently a South African singer said she was colored and not Black. Well in America colored is an offensive term and no longer used. But her group insisted on using the term without considering they are in someone else’s culture and country. Just respect the culture and country you’re in or speaking on. Americans deserve the same respect as everyone else. What you do in your country doesn’t matter in the US.
mayowa!! i love the look SO MUCH! the orange is absolutely gorgeous and honestly ur makeup style is so inspiring! 🧡🦋
I found also that a lot of people don't know the difference between bi-racial and mixed race. Mixed race can be any person mixed with 1 or more races and can include biracial people. But bi racial is only a person who is literally half one race and half another race.
I have seen several people like Logic who claimed to be biracial but actually their parent is biracial and that biracial parent then married a non black person. So Logic is a YT man with black ancestry. So is Mariah, Amber Rose, etc.
Sometimes people will argue that we are all mixed but have 5, 10, 17 percent ancestry does not make you able to claim a race. At least not in the case of black ppl. They like to use the excuse that nobody is truly purely one race. That we all are mixed with something. By that logic american black people should be able to claim any race since we are all so mixed up.
I also notice that a lot of ppl pick and choose who to claim as black and who to reject. Usually mixed women no matter how white she presents gets to claim black while a mixed guy like Logic has to "fight" to claim blackness. So I do see where some of the mixed ppls confusion and frustration lies amongst the other identity issues they face.
So 17% not mixed race, then what is?
Lightskins going wild online......
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Mixed*
there's a difference between mixed race and light skinned.
@@reneestevens7337well only in America are ppl just lightskin blk(like Beyoncé Rihanna Steph curry) so what is your description of lightskin blk?
@@DoubleBeezy blk people with a light skin complexion.
Your makeup and hair is always on point, and I love the intro to your videos.
The white passing mixies need help.... Not from us though....
"That Quadroon experience "....😂😂😂
Your content is so informative, thank you for sharing with us . I always pick a leaf .
This makes me think about the trauma that I have from dating SOME mixed people dealing with that "racial panic" (you described that so well). They made a mockery or ignored my grievances regarding Colorism but expected me to console and listen to them when it comes to their identity issues.
Your make-up is a feast for my eyes and the video was also eye opening!
I am with YOU ON YOU I TOTALLY AGREE WITH YOUR STANCE. 👍🏾👍🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
I swear we consume the same content. I see you everywhere.
I'm St. Lucian & Guyanese, but ppl like to lump it as you're Caribbean without realizing that the culture from one country to another differs.
It's funny you mention mixed ppl tend to date mixed. I married someone who is Japanese & Filipino.
@elizekelly I think you're misunderstanding what I'm saying. Some of the ppl that I've met in the U.S (at least those I've met) assume that everyone in the Caribbean as a whole has the exact same cultural norms.
@@theonlyem0hique I think that happens because when people who have parentage from the Caribbean are born and raised in America for example, they don’t themselves take up individual identities at least not at large. Outside of a flag they themselves and the presence on the internet-promotes being generally “Caribbean “ w/o any nuance.As opposed to seeing “my families from Saint Kitts”, or your case, being St. Lucian, ppl just rep being Caribbean or West Indian at large.Only in specific instances, will they speak up to the specific country and even then I see a time and time again that people with heritage from other Caribbean countries will try to check or correct them saying “we all do the same things”. The identity here has become a hodgepodge of just “ Caribbean Ness” at large with the exceptions and only sometimes being Haiti, Jamaica and Guyana. People here thrive on a one Caribbean identity to the point that I’m seeing a push for it to be more flat and all inclusive with countries like Belize and Costa Rica, Honduras,Panama so it gives the impression of we’re all very very similar with little differences even though I know there are differences. Just given an outside perspective of something I’ve noticed happening over the past decade or so years.
@@theonlyem0hiqueYou’re not understanding that part of American culture is to lump foreigners into regions. People get you have an individual culture but everyone isn’t interested in knowing or adapting to your culture. The expectation is that if you’re in America then it’s your responsibility to adapt to the local culture.
@elizekelly why so much heat for no reason? The islands a culturally and linguistically diverse. It would be similar to ppl calling someone only European when their parents are Polish and Portuguese.
@@justjules2029 All of your comments on here are giving xenophobia. 🙄 What has this topic or her comment go to do with adapting to American culture? Please go spout your patriotic rhetoric somewhere else. It’s getting tired.
Ooh girl I’m earlyyyy 🎉. I’m SEATED each and every time my fav wash and go girlie posts 💗💕
Sis. . Same!!!❤️
Makeup is 🔥 love your videos!
At the front of this panic is Tracey Ross and Tia Mowry
Tia Mowry looks black though. She doesn’t pass as white.
@@atmodleeSHE IS MIXED!! AND LOOKS IT. Jesus.
@@atmodleeshe looks mixed or even racially ambiguous.
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They look exactly what they are, mixed !!
😂😂😂😂😂 I’m sorry the poetry makes me want to vomit
Exactly. Just 🤮🤢
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Not Blues Clues 😂😂😂
This must be one if not the best videos u put out on colorism! Mayowa u that gyal and we thank you for speaking on this nuisance that only we see & feel. I thank u infinitely for being you
Not "Blue's Clues mystery case observation" 🤣🤣🤣
You made several points as usual!! *clapping*
My daughter asked my husband and I what race her children would be and, in sync, my husband and I said it depends on the race of man you marry and have children with.
My then 7 y/o daughter understood that concept. I don’t know why these adults have such a hard time understanding the same concept.
If you can’t teach your children their true racial identity, you should not have children with a person of another race. The kids grow up being confused and traumatized.
I really appreciated your comment about how multiethnic experiences are neither placed at the forefront of discussion nor given much grace. I’m half Jamaican, half Ghanaian ethnically and my nationality is African-American since I was born here. Boyyyyy the experiences I’ve had lol
Lots of good points were made in this video, ones that I think mixed folks should take in. I also wanted to add this information to help others understand why so many mixed people, especially ones that pass for White, so adamantly stake their claim as being Black. In a lot of mixed families, the Black family members at an early age will instill ethnic pride in their children. In my case, I am mixed but I am white passing (I look like Halsey). My father and all the members of my Black family made sure to tell me every chance they could growing up that I was Black and not to forget that, deny that, or let people tell me I wasnt Black.
Now I never walked around telling people I was only Black; I always said I was mixed because I never denied any part of me. But, I had to learn for myself (and leave the South) and teach myself, that being perceived as Black is an entirely different experience than something I would ever know and therefore I needed to check a lot of things (my white privilege, how I am perceived by the world, and what me claiming myself as Black was doing to the melanated people around me). That is why, while I claim and respect my Blackness, I would not and do not identify as a person of color because I am not melanated.
A lot of mixed folks have to go on this journey and unlearn shit (and get checked/educated by our Black friends) and a lot of us (especially those in the South) have not sat down with these questions and analyzed how it affects themselves and others. Its hard not to be defensive about your Blackness when you have been indoctrinated by your family to think about yourself in a certain light and to fight back when someone tries to deny a part of you. Maybe that can explain where some mixed folks and their defensiveness comes from.
I hear what you are saying but in having this type of upbringing do they not explain the intersections? I ask bc I am from the south where I have met some very down to earth biracials that weren’t interested in oppressing nor using blk ppl as stepping stones. They claimed their blackness, fought for blk but NEVER felt that it was their place to speak over blk voices. If they were questioned on the blk experience(happened often) they would direct the attention to blk ppl or if darkest in the room, speak from the blk perspective. Amanda Seale is a great example of this. Her commentary centers blk, not the medium.
Do you know why they do that? It’s just to make you feel included. They don’t really mean it. Since Slavery Blk ppl been brain washed into appeasing and feeling more sympathy for white passing and biracial individuals. They already know once you learn the truth between black and white people you’re going to wonder why they made that conscious decision to be with their oppressor.
@@citizencoy4393 thank you for your comment and question. Unfortunately, in my situation my family did not teach me intersectionality or about privileges. Hell, they hardly talked about me passing as White and what that meant or how I would be perceived, the conversations I could and could not participate in. They did not speak on systemic oppression directly, they would talk about unfair treatment by police and oppression they faced in the past, but they oddly never talked about the broader barriers black people faced, or things like colorism, texturism, or featurism. They just told me I had a right to be at the table of black folks conversations and never got deeper into it.
These were things I had to learn from going to college and having genuine conversations with other black folks and friends. This is also why I listen to great TH-cam commentators such as this one to help me better learn and understand these things. While I never intentionally stepped on toes or spoke over people or thought I could speak on certain topics, I also did not check my privileges at the door and was ignorant and likely hurtful in certain situations to people I cared for because of it. And it is not my friend's jobs to teach me all this, I know that, which is why I follow Black content creators to learn for myself.
I do know that not all Southern mixed families are this way, and that other families openly talk about intersectionality and the other things I mentioned to prepare their child to be an understanding ally in Black spaces without hurting or demeaning people. the reason I stated the South is really because I notice the 'one-drop rule' is more rampant and defended down South than I have noticed from living on the West coast and Midwest.
Its like my family wanted to tell me I was Black growing up to instill that pride, but also thought I looked too White to teach me about the Black experience more then just surface level things... they failed me in that way.
Loveee the makeup! Those colors suit you so well and this was great commentary as always ❤
I know so many bi ethnic people!!! I’m taken from my culture so not quite bi ethnic myself but THANK YOU for touching on that!!
You are 100% correct. Thank you for this commentary.
Great video! For the record, the world is changing. "Biracial people or mixed race people" don't have to identify as Black anymore. The world has changed. And Black people especially, need to let this one drop rule go!!
Most black-mixed race people all over the world identify as such. This one drop rule is purely American.
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@@moremiaj4786we don’t have an actual % in today America for what’s mixed vs admixture. Most blk Americans if not all or of course mixed of involuntary and voluntary but many definitely have recent mixed ancestry (mixed ppl date other mixed ppl which is just blk in America). And I always hear republicans talk about how bad the 1 drop rule is but never talk about y mulatto was removed or the % logic of it. So America overall hypocrites and until race logic is here, HISPANIC will be considered a race and anyone with obvious African ethnic, no matter how mixed they look will be blk(the only difference today is if someone has a parent marked as white then ppl consider them mixed vs generational mixed). The link I showed u is someone half white on dna test but full blk in America
What is Black and White really? It's just a manmade classification.
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I know that in the U.S. we are known for having identity crisis issues, lol, but...where are you referring to? The UK?
I am in a bunch of mixed race groups online and in them, over the years, with respect to anyone mixed with black and something else, there is a lot of discussion and disagreement with one major division: biracial ppl who choose to i.d. as one race, only, and those who are firmly only i.d.ing as mixed. There's a third camp that feels it's up to individuals to choose and that it's not their place to gatekeep - interestingly, many of them still would say they are black, themselves, but not all.
Overwhelmingly, in these groups, more ppl mixed with black than not will gravitate towards i.d.ing as black, even ppl living over in Europe, although it's less. Not so much in South America and there are small contingents of colored South Africans who definitely don't jive with that. They are pretty prideful in upholding their mixed heritage and while there is some arrogant personalities that show themselves, their position really made a lot of sense. Too bad South Africa got racial identity right all while still maintaining racist hierarchy and now it seems they never resolved a whole lot of problems they've got.
I agree with everything you said, especially as a dark skinned woman, who is the darkest in my colorist a$$ family. I think you should give Logic a little grace, however. His mother is white, yes, but she was horribly abusive to him, calling him the n word and many other slurs. His half brothers, on his dad's side were much darker than him, and if I can recall, they wholly embraced him and treated him like an actual human being. So in his case, I can completely understand him talking about his half-blackness and being much closer to black culture as opposed to white. By default he absolutely does have certain privileges, but I don't think it's fair to place all light skinned/white passing bi-racials under the same unbrella. I can't believe I'm saying this because I have a plethora of negative stories and issues concerning them, but fair is fair, and they go through a lot of ish too.
He’s a mixed person w/ racial trauma. The trauma does not make you black. Also Logic, is only 1/4 black right.
He’s still not black. He has black American heritage but cannot identify as a black man. He can definitely tell people about his black American heritage though
@@dijonay971is he culturally black? Is one of his parents black?
@JustMeandGod_ he's not blk he's mixed aka biracial. U r what both of your parents are end of story
@@JustMeandGod_u need two blk parents to be blk and y r u on this page
@mayowasworld your side eye at the quadroon poet had me dying lmbo
excellent video!
Love the creative makeup!
I think about cultural/ ethnic identity frequently. I'm a Black American woman raising a son who is half Nigerian. I feel guilt at times that I can't teach the language and culture of his dad. My ex is around, but we disagreed about how important it was for our son to learn Yoruba, so he didn't teach it to him.
He's only 5, but it already feels like it's too late. My son rejects a lot of his dad's culture because it feels unfamiliar. I hope they'll get closer as he gets older. I love the culture I share with my parents. It's essential.
I really hope he does learn it. Learning another language opens ones mind in so many ways. It would be such a missed opportunity.
can he connect with anyone on his dad's side? that happens a lot. my friend is nigerian and his parents didn't teach him Yoruba either and he wishes they had.
I literally love your makeup! It inspires me because I’ve never been a huge fan of makeup but I LOVE eyeshadow and I wish I knew how to do it. Have you or would you ever consider doing a tutorial/grwm?
I keep hearing this girl’s “poetry” in my head at random parts of the day and laugh so hard every time!! This is like my fourth time rewatching it. She sounds so goofy, I can’t believe she’s so unaware…but then, I can believe it!
I really love and appreciate this conversation.
This concept gets crazy when you bring up being Native vs being mixed with Native.
I enjoyed listening to this, and I like your makeup. ❤
My dad is 50% white and dark dark skin black man with straight hair, yup I guarantee he couldn’t claim white lol
Still not black, he’s mixed
Still not black, but mixed. Why are mixed people never claiming being just that - mixed? How are you black if literally half of the family is white.
Her point is not a difficult to understand. It is y'all being purposely obtuse
This is the reason why I said your skin tone doesn't make you anything. Its what your parents are. If they are both African, then you are African or Black.
@@hmmm2564 not white doesnt equal black. have some pride sheesh
love the color combo for the eye makeup