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a very strong electric motor that runs on 18 v.
i believe that these could help people with there projects. whatever they be this is a great light weight long lasting option.
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I don't know how long these will be available so while supplies last, good luck with your projects.
god bless.
I've been trying to figure these out as well, glad I'm not alone in this quest.
Is my understanding that these are wired for a motor. To push power. So it makes sense to wire it, To do just that.
It's what I learned messing around with the ac motor actually. I tried to pull power from it when it was wired to push power.
Same thing with these motors, People are trying to pull power from them, They're not wired to do so, When they do that they're stepping into the world of perpetual motion.
I'm having better luck just multiplying power. N.T.
I believe I can run a low rpm generator head. Or power a vehicle source, Not having to use all those batteries and weight.
That's where i'm @ now anyway. God bless&Good luck with your project. Please share any knowledge to help others.
i love it! thanks dude.
I see you're having some fun!
Idle hands. Lol
Even if you hook this up to the most efficient generator you can never make more watts than what is put in due to losses but the washing machine BLDC motors do make awesome motors and generators and I'm converting one to a wind turbine right now by rewiring it to make around 14 volts so I can charge a battery bank and invert it. Keep working on it though because you never know, these motors might be so efficient they exceed 100% and if that is true they could charge themselves. Either way keep experimenting because that's the only discoveries are made
F in a brother. I don't know anything about this.I've never done this before a day in my life, and that's probably why i'm getting so far with it. lol
I didn't know I couldn't do that, so I did.
Recently I was trying to wine a stator coil around it (too big 4 magnets & didn't work)and had a thought about a different style of winding, So my silly butt had to try it, Then I took the power I was getting and ran it back through, man,The noises and speed made then wow. It might be taking less power to run it at that point, i do see ways of multiplying more.
Now i've seen people use copper sheets instead of wires on a certain type of wave winding. Wouldn't u know i had another thought just recently, I was gonna add yet another different type of wine(ok many 9) to ea coil. On top of everything you see. We'll see how this one goes, but it looks very interesting. I've got to say...
By the way, all the power I put through the motor to spin It , she doesn't get hot but when I make power.That's the stuff that could get warm. Seems to confuse people, but separation and airflow will fix that.
Nickola had that multiplied power thing going on, and really, that's all I'm finding here is several ways of making power off a little 18v battery. & Lots of power I am making.
I will up the power source one day but for now this 18v works and when it gets really hard to spin it she will stall so that gives me a point of too much if that makes any sense. And then I can go back and fix whatever is needed. I do appreciate the comment.And I will try this other thing, and who knows, it might help some people. If just one of these experiments helps people Lol, if not @least it will save them time ...
Good luck, and god bless you with your project.
It's possible to get more from less. Attaching hoover board motor directory to the bdlc washer machine you get 250 from 36 . Yet still you can tap and regulate to 36v and rectify and maintain your battery
How do you bring done the hz
How to make BLDC Motor Tester.?
I couldn’t figure out what kind of motor exactly this is the whole time I was watching. The hub looks like a washing machine motor but what’s the rest of it??
The front is a 36 pole washing machine motor that i rewired using the factory wiring and slightly changed it to a Star configuration from factory delta. I drilled out a pulley so that I could mount it to the shaft (lots of measurements).
The center is just an old ac motor. I TRYed to put pm magnets in and produce power with NO real luck their I found that those motors aren't really wired to pick up power. I want to try a low rpm generator head like 3000w. Or more. maby, it can charge batteries;)
The rest is that 3 phase controller & inverter with 18v batttereye.
If anyone has questions, yes, please feel free to ask.
Also my other videos I take everything apart. And try my best to explain as I went.
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Interesting concept. Ive been able to use an older bldc controller to run mine but these are really designed for the higher voltages to get that extreme torque like you are doing here. I want to do exactly what you are talking about as a backup generator for my system. My question to you is, do you have these in stock in the US or is this set up as a drop shipment from china?
Currently, I am drop shipping these from china. Yes, I wish I could buy in bulk. Paypal, tho is allowing people to make payments, That's seems to be the most affordable way I could find to get these into people's hands.
I am even drop shipping at cost.
My email
117stock@gmail.com I might have some ? For you before you start. Also, there are a few things to consider.
Well , I'm not an electrical engineer , more like machine/mechanical one (by education , anyway ) , but more volts mean more rotational speed (RPM , at same frequency) and more amps means bigger torque (depending on wiring configuration and given architecture/design/type of a particular motor). I didn't see any load attached to the generator side (like heating units , which are like 99% efficient) , which would instigate back EMF on the generator. There are loses (friction , electrical resistance , heat ...) , so you can't get more power out , than in (in this case cordless power tool battery).
To put it differently , if that battery has capacity of 5 Ah @18v (it is more than 20 v full charge) it is 100 WH of available power , which means it will produce 100 Watts for the duration of one hour , or 20 Watts for 5 hours , or 400 Watts for 15 minutes (theoretically , because there are loses with inverter and in prime mover/motor). At best , you can get 90 Watts for one hour (and even that is questionable). So , no matter how powerful generator is , you can't get more than 90 Watts out of it per one hour (again , probably much less than that). Depending on a consumption of washing machine motor , you can spin the generator , at required speed (in order to get nominal voltage out of it) for some time UNLOADED. As soon as you add significant load , like heater , or battery charger , it will cause inverter to shut down , or , if inverter is sufficiently powerful , the load will "choke" the washing machine motor to extremely low speed , or to a standstill , which will melt the wires in it (given some time) , or overload battery and make it explode , or catch fire (though, those things have BMS , which switches off the battery if overheated , or overloaded and the inverters have similar kind of protection , which means , the whole system will just stop working).
There are , so called , pulse motor/generators , which "steel" back EMF pulses - there is some electronic circuitry (collapsing electromagnetic field) , which are used to trickle charge the other battery (other than one that powers the device). People claimed more than 100% of efficiency (over-unity) , but I never saw one in person , just videos , so I don't know how much truth is in that , but even if those were true , the devices I saw are low power , experimental machines , which can be used for charging the phone , or lighting some LED's .
@@pedjamilosavljevic6235 I have one and have used low voltage higher amperage to run it but you definitely lose speed. These motors have more torque because the characteristics of this type of multipole motor makes it take advantage of the magnetic fields being so much closer together than a typical dual pole motor. It doesn't take as much amperage to give you more torque. Utilizing the higher voltages creates a very strong magnetic fields. As far as getting more from it than you put in... no, Ive heard of only one mechanical device that can actually do that and its controversial and the inventor passed away years ago. For me the idea is to use this in place of a gas engine for appliance applications such as an air compressor or pump etc.. The motors run more efficiently on higher voltage because they are designed by LG to do just that. So much better than the basic ac motor running everything I use in my shop. Plus with the higher voltages you can get the speeds up high enough for such applications without losing torque. These are direct drive motors that are spinning your wet heavy clothes, blankets socks and underwear effortlessly with a much less robust controller at high efficiency.
Well, i'm more of a trial by fire kind of guy, or school of hard knox.
Appreciate all that I might have to read it twice.
In short, though, I did put load on it with my hand, and I did test it off camera. It was around ten volts per leg. If it is a 120 V. That means I have a lot more to go.
As far as all that back emf stuff goes.
I feel like less complicated, Complications, Is really where it's at.
Yes, you could do all that, and you probably would get a better result.
That's y I took the hall sensors out.
I don't have an oscilloscope. Lol
I got this far if it goes into somebody else 's smarter hands and they figured out Hallelujah.
I will do another video coming up and test all that stuff on camera.
My background is general contracting construction agriculture and hobby r some vehicles
This stuff's not too new to me though I have studied it for some time, I hold a couple patents even for water and hydrogen.
But really tho I thought this is the one that surprised me most,
💡 Don't really need the battery pac Or inverter. It's really cool running off 18 V though. And no, it does not get hot. But I'll try to get it there.
The ohm's test with stranded Copper wire will be lower so it will be more efficient if wrapped that way.
I'm using the factory aluminum wire Which is probably the worst.
I'll try to do a short to the point video address some of these issues and film it. I appreciate the questions, And comments, thank you for sharing ur knowledge on this.
I.m.o.p.
It's not really the engineering Degrees, md's, law degrees, or even big money, It's the people in their shops figuring it out and letting other people know.
And Seriously I might have to read all that twice lol thanks again.
@@stock202 Sorry , for long comment , but , I don't know how to write it short and politely explain what I mean - English isn't my native language (obviously).
My background is in furniture making and restoration (antique furniture) , although I did many different things , over the years. I'm also linked with with cars , in racing and in classic cars world. Also , I did some innovations (tools and simple stuff) , though w/o patents , because I don't believe in them - I'm more "open source" guy.
I don't care much about academic degrees either , accept maybe , in medical science , cause I wouldn't want to be medically treated by a welder ,or tile layer , or plumber...
What I meant to suggest (and failed) is to just measure device's output voltage and put some resistive load on it (with known/measured) resistance and measure amps and time , until battery is fully discharged. That'll give you all the data for calculation of relation between input and output energy. Never mind the oscilloscope.
I really like garage/shed/backyard innovation .
At the end , I have to say , your artistic expression through working with camera is very interesting. It may have some health benefits too , for the neck muscles 😁.
Looking forvard to your next video an all the best !
Oh, at first I thought you were trying to replicate something by Gerard Morin. Yeah these are great motors, and that’s awesome you have it running off a drill battery.
But don’t listen to Morin, all that stuff about pushing power or whatever. I saw his video about powering a hair drier, and he’s way off. No free energy at all.
You could use these as generators, and because they’re 3 phase they will be more efficient, but it would probably be better to rectify it to DC then use an inverter to get 120 AC.
Agreed but sometimes it takes those crazy guys to help us out. I'll be doing another video. Is testing load drag and heat. In the advantage, somebody smarter than me. Can hook this stuff up and make it work for other people? That is the goal. But yes they are amazing motors rewired just as they are running like this. Thanks for the advice and comments.