@@Necxuz25 every english speaker ALWAYS misses the double L and fails to pronunce it. soo. nope. pronun is literally the same as write Iyaoi. everyone is soo wrong with the double L, as usual..
@@ReusExnot actually, if you are playing Darius and she hits the E, its not like she could just stop there and hit the clone, you would easily stack on her and out damage her
Great video, but you could also put in 3-5 champions that counter champion mentioned in a video Edit: guys I know how to counter Illaoi, Im just giving author ideas how to improve his ''how to counter'' videos :)
Best champions that are easy vs her, I recommend mordekaiser and gwen the most because they are ap so she cant buy frozen gauntlet and they have tools to ignore a large part of her kit and shred her high hp. Twisted fate is a good one as well because he can't really be all inned ever by illaoi especially when running ghost fleet and he can trade from range letting him free scale TL;DR, Gwen, morde, tf are really good easy illaoi counters
I used to main illaoi. Yorick and Gwen are dodge/bans and completely dumpster illaoi. If I had to pick any champion it would Yorick bceause there is no counterplay whatsoever. Other lseser counters are vayne, quinn, teemo, cassio, tryndamere, akshan. Good illaoi players can beat Mordekaiser, but is difficult and the window of opportunities are very low, so for that reason mordekaiser can also be considered a counter.
As an Illaoi main i can give a small tip with anti heal vs Illa OI, Bramble vest is not that good vs a decent Illaoi since it doesnt apply if you are hitting the spirit (E Ghost). This means that as long as illaoi is not W or AA you directly shes not recieving the anti-heal
Not going in recklessly and respect his early strength (unless you play WW) and always go for short trade and avoid/bait his e If you have more than 200 hp advantage while he's low then try to get close to him if he tries to Q and finish him off Also buying MS and anti slow is a good choice since he don't have mobility and all he got his a hook into a slowing auto
Good video but I would advise revising it and removing bramble vest as a suggestion or at least imply that executioners is better. Illaoi's main all-in and trade damage will come from hitting your spirit and unfortunately bramble vest anti heal does not apply to that
hey man, ive been watching a couple of your videos. the info given has helped me consider more options and even options that I didn't even think of like shielding to counter percent max true damage. I subbed and look forward for more :)
I like these videos, it's simple logic but sometimes it gets overlooked, it's very useful, I'm looking forward to one on darius, mordekaiser and camille.
Thanks for the video. I've following since the first ones. I would appreciate if you make one regarding how to draft as an adc, since I don't actually know how to pick my champion regarding the situation
i think someone mentioned this already, but including counterpicks is really nice for dealing with champs. I think showing general game plans is still nice, since you can apply the concept to any champ you play top (for the most part), so good work nonetheless, love the content.
Hello Havoc! I figured a very useful video I'd appreciate you created! It has to deal with vision and bushes, and when is it that you gain vision of someone if they attack you or you just attacked them... Just a brief introduction that could explain the mechanics behind using a bush to its full potential Have a great day
Any chance you make videos talking about items and if you should finish them or start buying others? Anti heal are a great example that you should not finish them
You either pick Jax and turbo stomp them the entire game or you pick fiora and you wait for windows to punish mistakes and you outscale them. Or pick trynda!
so how to counter her if i can't dodge her E? i need some alternative, i just don't have the reaction time or react impulsively right into her E(that happens on any lane)
Illaoi has 0 ways to force you to commit, its why she's a bad champion in higher elo. She stat checks most champs in her ult but you never actually have to fight her inside of it. You always have the option to walk away after baiting it and just re-engaging once its gone/on cd.
Main Illaoi here, Imma drop the best advice against her: just ignore her. Legit, with the changes on bami and how low she moves you can easily proxy her into oblivion until min 14 and she can't do anything about it. If she goes after you she loses 2 waves and if she keeps under tower you'll gain plates and possibly the kill. Best champs for this strat: Garen, Rammus, Sion, Volibear, damn I was destroyed by a proxy Irellia once.
Can you do one about ADC defensive itemization? Riot August keeps talking about it (and how ADCs don't build defensively) but a single shieldbow or jak'sho won't save me from fed zed or Garen running at me at mach 5 speed
How to counter Yorick? Outside of playing an AA champion. Say if I get counterpicked on Aatrox, Darius or another champion that struggles to deal with his ghouls.
Might depend on the champ too. As Riven, I prefer to build straight into my first item as Illaoi typically rushes armour vs me and i only have flat damage. When she has Tabis and my item isn't complete yet, i might choose to avoid trades but once i get that item its over for her. I know its a bit easier for my champ and i have lots of dashes but consider whether you really need to rush an early spike item if it delays an even better power spike.
One advice I can give for her tentacle spawns, please clear them out when possible and if you are fighting near 2+ tentacles nearby the terrain then she will have an advantage of doing tons of damage.
@@storbonne wouldn't say so. She struggles against chaps like full AP malphite, Kyle and others with constant dps. She is focused to nullify CC/single burst damage, but will have trouble against champions who does not rely on single strike to deal most of dmg and who will not let her heal. I like to play attack speed Sett vs her, most of Fioras I face try to W my W or my E, but I just punch them to death instead.
I’m no expert but maybe toplane Akali? When she’s in W fiora can’t hit weak spots and she’s also very mobile so she can outmaneuver, you can even wait out her ult in w. Akali also doesn’t rely on heavy cc that fiora can counter with her W. But idk that’s just my take
As an Illaoi main, all these tips are great to counter her, but remember that a good illaoi wont throw her E like crazy. We throw it when you are about to last hit a minion, or when we use W on a champ, that closes the distance and we can’t miss E. Try to bait her E in this instances. Good video❤
I find it very easily to counter both illaOI and Aatrox is to not fight them in laning phase. Proxy champions can hard countering them like Singed, Rammus... and then in late game, you can just run across them and let them die. What's important is to not giving them too much resources early
So you need to take short trades to poke her down and then use your burst to kill her when she's low enough. Problem being that she has sustain to heal after trades and she usually wins them anyways by just landing E guaranteed when you're close enough
With nasus you can actually give him what he wants if you are confident. Perma shove wave and roam so hard it doesn't matter how much stacks he gets because you're perma pressuring the map. If it goes late you're fucked anyway, so just fuck the enemy jungle and mid and take 6x grubs and herald
this is the main reason I play on - hit mobiliity Illaoi ( flash , ghost ) q and e are just bonus to me since r + w spam is usually enough to kill somebody
Now there is this champion that has poke, refreshing invisibility, 3-4 dashes, movement speed boost and enpowered basic attack after every ability, slow, ofc energy so she doesn't have snowballing limit duuuh, tons of damage, oh and since you cant basic attack her due to invisibility nor hit her with skillshota due to all those dashes and movement speed boosts, she needs to have one of the highest base hp in the game to survive, would you be so kind and tell me how to counter that?
She is a low mobility, low range champion that has no cc. You can pick ranged champion and if you dodge her E she can't do anything. Also, Singed is really good against her. He doesn't requier sticking close to her to deal damage, you can flip her when she ults to get her away from tentacles. She cant use w while grounded so her tentacles are useless and rylai is your core item which helps your team kite her. He also has built in grevious wounds when he ults.
Illa OI
Illinois almost
That's the correct pronunciation, way better than "ilawui"
@@Necxuz25 every english speaker ALWAYS misses the double L and fails to pronunce it. soo. nope.
pronun is literally the same as write Iyaoi. everyone is soo wrong with the double L, as usual..
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Illa OI Hughie, Homelander done killed me wife and took me bloody son
Thank you for teaching me how to counter illa-oye.
Just one tip against illaoi. You dodge her e or a game
can force her off your clone
@@pocketblue if she has r you are trolling
@@marcokalendileo7849 levels 1-5 if she only has 1 tentacle
@@pocketblue Silver 4 comment
@@ReusExnot actually, if you are playing Darius and she hits the E, its not like she could just stop there and hit the clone, you would easily stack on her and out damage her
love this channel, very educational and gets straight to the point. pls don't change
Great video, but you could also put in 3-5 champions that counter champion mentioned in a video
Edit: guys I know how to counter Illaoi, Im just giving author ideas how to improve his ''how to counter'' videos :)
Best champions that are easy vs her, I recommend mordekaiser and gwen the most because they are ap so she cant buy frozen gauntlet and they have tools to ignore a large part of her kit and shred her high hp.
Twisted fate is a good one as well because he can't really be all inned ever by illaoi especially when running ghost fleet and he can trade from range letting him free scale
TL;DR, Gwen, morde, tf are really good easy illaoi counters
Ranged top
Garen works fine too
Yorick is also very good, as well as quinn. Quinn can actually rotate illaois e by 180 with vault.
I used to main illaoi. Yorick and Gwen are dodge/bans and completely dumpster illaoi. If I had to pick any champion it would Yorick bceause there is no counterplay whatsoever. Other lseser counters are vayne, quinn, teemo, cassio, tryndamere, akshan. Good illaoi players can beat Mordekaiser, but is difficult and the window of opportunities are very low, so for that reason mordekaiser can also be considered a counter.
The best tip for low elo players who always make the same mistake. Do not stand in her ult. Move out of it and then continue to fight
As an Illaoi main i can give a small tip with anti heal vs Illa OI, Bramble vest is not that good vs a decent Illaoi since it doesnt apply if you are hitting the spirit (E Ghost). This means that as long as illaoi is not W or AA you directly shes not recieving the anti-heal
Its the part that bothers me. Thornmail also doesnt reflect on the soul
Yep, real bad idea. Might even be worth to sell it back if you made the mistake 😂
She lands E while you try to cs under tower, this is the real struggle
Get better at dodging skill shot or give cs to not grief game
How to counter darius 🥺
Not going in recklessly and respect his early strength (unless you play WW) and always go for short trade and avoid/bait his e
If you have more than 200 hp advantage while he's low then try to get close to him if he tries to Q and finish him off
Also buying MS and anti slow is a good choice since he don't have mobility and all he got his a hook into a slowing auto
@@UnluckyHelloing ghost flash (he dont have mobility)
dodge q outer range and bait out e by walking in and out of range (if you're bad at this you're gonna get yourself killed so practice)
and many people don't know you don't have to walk away when he uses q you can walk towards him and go inside circle
also, short trades work well against him as there's a tremendous difference between him getting 4 vs 5 stacks
Good video but I would advise revising it and removing bramble vest as a suggestion or at least imply that executioners is better. Illaoi's main all-in and trade damage will come from hitting your spirit and unfortunately bramble vest anti heal does not apply to that
hey man, ive been watching a couple of your videos.
the info given has helped me consider more options and even options that I didn't even think of like shielding to counter percent max true damage.
I subbed and look forward for more :)
I like these videos, it's simple logic but sometimes it gets overlooked, it's very useful, I'm looking forward to one on darius, mordekaiser and camille.
You forget to mention that she is has low mana if you dodge her ability she will run of mana early lvl
This channel it great and is teaching me alot. It didnt cost $200, require 40 minutes of gameplay with no explanation or any of that coach stuff
Thanks for the video. I've following since the first ones. I would appreciate if you make one regarding how to draft as an adc, since I don't actually know how to pick my champion regarding the situation
Actual good advice. Thank you it makes sense.
Great video! Could you discuss about how to counter renekton pls?
Maybe build Ninja Tabi i think it negate alot of his damage idk
Holy crap thank you! I didn't think that'd be the nexy one you would do
i think someone mentioned this already, but including counterpicks is really nice for dealing with champs. I think showing general game plans is still nice, since you can apply the concept to any champ you play top (for the most part), so good work nonetheless, love the content.
Yorick and Kalista
Hello Havoc! I figured a very useful video I'd appreciate you created!
It has to deal with vision and bushes, and when is it that you gain vision of someone if they attack you or you just attacked them... Just a brief introduction that could explain the mechanics behind using a bush to its full potential
Have a great day
Thank you soo much for the video, but could you upload one on how to counter irelia?
Excellent channel fr a gem.
Thank you so much ever since this video game out ive been eating kalimari.
you should also give some counter champ suggestions
The absorb rune from precision tree is amazing for sustain, use it when you see a chance guys! Must have for meele vs ranged matchups
Keep going with all the juggernauts. Do Sett next.
Sett is easy don't fight him farm and out scale him
Yoo this toplane content is so good
Any chance you make videos talking about items and if you should finish them or start buying others? Anti heal are a great example that you should not finish them
Make a video about Zhonias, some champs like rumble should build it 2nd or 3rd item its too good? But they dont
Thanks! I’m struggling with Camille and Gwen matchup. Can you discuss about how to counter Camille and Gwen?
You either pick Jax and turbo stomp them the entire game or you pick fiora and you wait for windows to punish mistakes and you outscale them. Or pick trynda!
@@shaan2639trynda can't do anything vs camille post her lvl 9
you should make one about nasus
so how to counter her if i can't dodge her E? i need some alternative, i just don't have the reaction time or react impulsively right into her E(that happens on any lane)
I struggle with tryndamere and renekton, please help!
Can you Make How to counter gwen
Good video do more if these ❤
Thx a lot for this video, can you help us to beat skarner top ? As a pantheon main I rly need advice to face this beast
Ban him 💀
Illaoi has 0 ways to force you to commit, its why she's a bad champion in higher elo. She stat checks most champs in her ult but you never actually have to fight her inside of it. You always have the option to walk away after baiting it and just re-engaging once its gone/on cd.
Main Illaoi here, Imma drop the best advice against her: just ignore her.
Legit, with the changes on bami and how low she moves you can easily proxy her into oblivion until min 14 and she can't do anything about it.
If she goes after you she loses 2 waves and if she keeps under tower you'll gain plates and possibly the kill.
Best champs for this strat: Garen, Rammus, Sion, Volibear, damn I was destroyed by a proxy Irellia once.
you are not a good player you are playing a broken champ u r trash
What's the point of proxy if illaoi will outscale you?
Now make how to counter ranged top like anivia
Can you do one about ADC defensive itemization? Riot August keeps talking about it (and how ADCs don't build defensively) but a single shieldbow or jak'sho won't save me from fed zed or Garen running at me at mach 5 speed
Position good and never buy jaksho on adc
I struggle with shaco ap when he is on my team though.
What can I do to avoid that?
Should I ban shaco?
How to counter Yorick? Outside of playing an AA champion. Say if I get counterpicked on Aatrox, Darius or another champion that struggles to deal with his ghouls.
How to counter volibear ? Pls
Please do how to counter Kled
do heimer and zyra supp pls worst champs i had to play against
HOW TO COUNTER HEAVY CC COMBS PLS
Please do Warwick
Sounds like Garen would be a great counter-pick against Illaoi
Might depend on the champ too. As Riven, I prefer to build straight into my first item as Illaoi typically rushes armour vs me and i only have flat damage. When she has Tabis and my item isn't complete yet, i might choose to avoid trades but once i get that item its over for her. I know its a bit easier for my champ and i have lots of dashes but consider whether you really need to rush an early spike item if it delays an even better power spike.
How to counter Tryndamere/Fiora next.
One advice I can give for her tentacle spawns, please clear them out when possible and if you are fighting near 2+ tentacles nearby the terrain then she will have an advantage of doing tons of damage.
Kennels or pantheon guide?
Ok this is beautiful
Can you talk about Fiora too?
fiora has no counters
@@storbonne wouldn't say so. She struggles against chaps like full AP malphite, Kyle and others with constant dps. She is focused to nullify CC/single burst damage, but will have trouble against champions who does not rely on single strike to deal most of dmg and who will not let her heal.
I like to play attack speed Sett vs her, most of Fioras I face try to W my W or my E, but I just punch them to death instead.
I’m no expert but maybe toplane Akali? When she’s in W fiora can’t hit weak spots and she’s also very mobile so she can outmaneuver, you can even wait out her ult in w. Akali also doesn’t rely on heavy cc that fiora can counter with her W. But idk that’s just my take
pick malphite
You pick a champion that can fight fiora at all stages of the game and try to win lane, otherwise game is lost
Always stand behind a minion, she'll not able to get any hp advantage after using her e
As an Illaoi main, all these tips are great to counter her, but remember that a good illaoi wont throw her E like crazy. We throw it when you are about to last hit a minion, or when we use W on a champ, that closes the distance and we can’t miss E. Try to bait her E in this instances. Good video❤
Do taliyah next please😀
one question I've always had is, when she successfully hits her E, is it more worth it to fight her or to just try and get out of the range?
If she lands e on you without her tentacles/ult it's better to go in
How to counter Tahm Kench in top lane?
How to counter Yasuo pls
How to counter akali, Eve, shaco, lillia
I find it very easily to counter both illaOI and Aatrox is to not fight them in laning phase. Proxy champions can hard countering them like Singed, Rammus... and then in late game, you can just run across them and let them die.
What's important is to not giving them too much resources early
So you need to take short trades to poke her down and then use your burst to kill her when she's low enough. Problem being that she has sustain to heal after trades and she usually wins them anyways by just landing E guaranteed when you're close enough
How to Counter Pantheon Next?
Play Illaoi xdd
@@popcattheprogamur XD
How to counter illaoi:
You don't
I struggle vs katarina and akali, would love advice on them
Kata is poo poo tier right now get good
How to counter Renekton? He feels op since the buffs
with what app you make the AI voice?
Murf
@@lolhavoc thanks broski
how to counter Illaoi easily:
-pick Mordekaiser
-only ult her after she ulted you (optional)
You need to show how to deal whit camile
How to counter Leblanc?
Wow, thanks...
How to counter Hecarim or Karthus
Warmogs rush Mundo is what I struggle against the most. You can never kill him in lane and he will outscale every top laner.
How can i beat le blank with zed!
nasus, i always win lane against him but still becomes feed, even with freeze
If you are low elo (not trying to insult you) most the time the matches goes 40 min +even if you win early he will become monster at this time
With nasus you can actually give him what he wants if you are confident. Perma shove wave and roam so hard it doesn't matter how much stacks he gets because you're perma pressuring the map. If it goes late you're fucked anyway, so just fuck the enemy jungle and mid and take 6x grubs and herald
@@ZadenWoW thanks both, im in emerald but i kinda stopped playing top for like two seasons and i was having a issue with him
next one for ksante please i bet you cant find any counter :D
Just win lane most ksante players are handless billy bobds
Blitz is my kryptonite champ, i can never win against him. do u have any tips other than "just dodge hook"
It's literally the only advise anyone can give you vs crank
@@user-sz9vt4sd7y up till now the only illaoi advice i got was "just dodge tentacles". this man provided a comprehensive build and strategy guide
Sett/camille please
Please do yorick bcs i play shen and hes my permaban
Finally i can int consciously
Against all i think not giving counterpicks is a good idea.
Since its all base strats that every champ can use.
please make one about katarina
the amount of my games when they were only about her snowballing out of control is sickening
Camille now?
this is the main reason I play on - hit mobiliity Illaoi ( flash , ghost ) q and e are just bonus to me since r + w spam is usually enough to kill somebody
make a video for urgot
Now there is this champion that has poke, refreshing invisibility, 3-4 dashes, movement speed boost and enpowered basic attack after every ability, slow, ofc energy so she doesn't have snowballing limit duuuh, tons of damage, oh and since you cant basic attack her due to invisibility nor hit her with skillshota due to all those dashes and movement speed boosts, she needs to have one of the highest base hp in the game to survive, would you be so kind and tell me how to counter that?
Literally just not stay close to her shroud does the trick, but I suppose you're not looking for an answer but rather just rant for the sake of it.
How do you counter Rumble? I can't beat him
Turbo shit on him lvl 1 or gg, literally but hea getting big nerf soon so don't worry.
I wanted to ask for her on Aatrox comments but I think I felt that I didn't had to
Do tristana next pla
how to counter singed?
Those top lane vids make me wanna play that lane then appears players with 2 medals over me and 1M mastery
Now Mordekaiser after R changes
Yorick's a good counter against her. Use your ghouls to block her E. Test of Spirit (E) is her most important spell.
malphite is a really hard matchup for me right now any tips?
Gwen, Warwick and I think aatrox does decent into him
Dshield + second wind, but if you're pure AD then it doesn't matter as he hard counters you by design.
How to counter yuumi
HOW TO COUTER POPPY PLS
She is a low mobility, low range champion that has no cc. You can pick ranged champion and if you dodge her E she can't do anything. Also, Singed is really good against her. He doesn't requier sticking close to her to deal damage, you can flip her when she ults to get her away from tentacles. She cant use w while grounded so her tentacles are useless and rylai is your core item which helps your team kite her. He also has built in grevious wounds when he ults.
nasus?
Trynda NEXT pls
Good gods the voice...