Leaving the EU was sawing off the the branch we were sitting on. Many leavers were badly misinformed and conned. Really the rational was just look at a map of where the UK is situated. The next “fix” is leaving the court of human rights and that won’t solve any of issues facing ordinary folk, in fact UK people are subjects not citizens with a written constitution. Still Boris, Piti and Co wouldn’t abuse their power…would they?
... You could not make this up 😂 😂 😂 If you want some amusement watch the latest BBC's Newscast (23.06.22) where Farage demonstrates how clueless he is about the ECHR he said that it is the same as the EU because there is just a corridor away from the EU implying that the ECHR is a part of the EU - thick as mince just like his usual audience and he said that removing the UK from the ECHR is going to be his "Brexit. 2" when confronted about the NI Good Friday Agreement and the fact that the UK is a signatory to the ECHR he blamed the Human Rights Act on Tony Blair for being his legacy 😂 he could not say much else 🤣... He could not name any EU laws he doesn't want in the UK as he either doesn't know any of them or does not want to talk about the UK fisheries and fishing industry the only EU law of the only industry he based his entire brexit campaign on 🎣. The most hilarious thing he said was that the UK border force should get the asylum seekers from the dinghys and get them on board and return them to France 😂😂😂😂😂 After removing from the UK citizens their EU-protected rights and freedoms including the freedom of movement, Farage now wants to remove UK citizens' Human Rights and convert the UK into a pariah state! Victoria Derbyshire asked him what are so far the brexit benefits, Farage couldn't point out any brexit benefit other than saying that the UK is a "free-standing" country and that the UK has been able to make a deal with Australia for submarines which were previously provided by the French government, V. Derbyshire asked him wouldn't we have been able to make such deal whilst EU members Farage said that we were unable to do this while the UK was EU member (!).. With an economy which is at a free-fall and the majority of people struggling with the Cost of Living Crisis and unable to put food on the table because of the repercussions from leaving the EU and the single market and the Customs Union, they should have asked him what's brexit good for... Farage is THE fool of the year.... I suggest Maximillien Robespierre does annual prizes at the end of the year on a live chat and give out prizes just like they do annual prizes at the "Last Leg" for "d**k of the Year", Farage probably will get the "Pea-brain of the Year" prize.. But then again this prize may be given to him retrospectively since he declared himself at school as being a facist...
Nah the worst thing that has happened to the UK since WW2 is the people who voted for tory governments time after time after time. Bozo is not the cancer. he is the tumour and we fed it.
But, but Lord Frost said official figures used to predict a 4% decline in output caused by Brexit were “zombie” numbers, based on academic studies of former communist countries, and not fact." 😃 He also said, "Does the EU want Brexit to work? Can it rise above the current frictions and work with the UK as a trusted partner, or will it continue to hassle and lecture us?” 😃 Why would the EU give a crap about whether Brexit works or not, Frosty?
You have to compare with what growth we would have had if we had never left. It’s ridiculous to make a comparison between EU membership of 2016 with Brexit of 2030. You have to ask what GDP would have had in 2030 if we had never left? The gap is more like 28% , not 8%.
1. The EU know Brexit cannot work. Trusted partner? what a sick joke. 2. They don't have to do anything, just watch the UK's spiralling fall. 3. It is actually in their interest for Brexit to be an unmitigated disaster. 4. They knew all of this from the start.
@@DrMontague what's that got to do with membership of a biggest trading partner? You're attacking capitalism not membership of a trading partnership. Capitalism is only as effective as the socialism that underpins it.
@@DrMontague is there a need to swear? If you don't know what I'm referring to that's your problem not mine. Take your foul, ignorant language and kindly go away. Very tiresome.
@@johnrussell3961 I remember on referendum day the £- euro rate was 1.40 it started to collapse as soon as the vote came in. I know this because I keep a close eye on exchange rates as I have regular monthly payments from £- euros. As we all know it is six years and is still abysmally low.
I am a full time public service worker (kids and adults) and my employment is now based around the further financial abuse of those who have already been abused beyond what you can imagine. I cannot afford to eat more than two fried eggs sandwiches per day. I am very grateful for the food bank I am signing up for and the help from neighbours. But the best help anyone can ever give their neighbourhood is to never ever vote tory again. I'm 51 and enough experience to know that the tories only ever take far more than they ever give. Please, for my life, never vote tory again. They are not Conservative, they are an English nationalist party. If it looks like a duck.... Also I am told by my pharmacist that the reason my prescription for low thyroid is constantly late is still because of supply issues borne of brexirlt, to the point I have to take sick time because i cannot function adequately, shows that were crumbling. We know our infrastructure has termites but you have no idea of the extent of that damage until you work in public services. As a canary in the mine, heed me. You will be next.
As Rees-Mogg said " It will take till 2050 to feel the full benefit of Brexit", or at least something very similar. The sad thing for me being in my early 70's is that the last useful years of my life will be spent during the breaking of Britain to accomplish their goal. A goal which is the complete opposite of their High Wage Economy (yet another empty slogan full of wind and piss) I really hope that I am wrong, working people will be working a lot harder and longer with less rights and lower wages to meet these Tory wet dreams. THEY NEED TO GO! If we get another Tory government we're screwed.
The worm may have turned with the news that the Tories have just lost both by elections. What has always puzzled me is that the Tories would never get in power without working class votes. why do people vote for liars?
We never left Europe. We remain a high cost European Country. Far more expensive than Asia , even at services, and now with an expensive standards border with the huge high cost market right next door. So what exactly are we offering the global economy?
You come from a sheltered middle class home so you back the establishment who have always wanted to be in the EU, The working class voted leave as their jobs were taken by cheap EU labour and wages supressed.(This was why Labour always wanted out of the EU until it was over run with sheltered middle class prigs such as Max, yourself and all the rest in this gormless echo chamber, To the working class, Labour now is just the sanctimonious wing of the Tory party) As a born Tory your arrogant superiority complex announced that these ghastly working class plebes are racist morons-not nearly as clever as you think you are in voting the establishment way. You can pretend you're Labour and "Left wing" but you're not. You cant escape your Tory genes. Blair spouted all the by rote "left wing" drivel spouted here 40 years ago. And like you, he couldn't help being what he really is, An establishment Tory.
Our import/exports are soon not going to matter as our domestic market spirals to the bottom. No one wants our overpriced products abroad and no one can buy overpriced imported or homegrown products. The population the UK can sustain in isolation is far below the number we have. The future is not orange. I fear it will be blood red. Desperation and hunger breeds chaos.
The EU could afford them….until we decided we wanted the cost of EU third county standards red tape added. Now they look for cheaper internal alternatives,
@@johnrussell3961 The UK told the EU and the 445 wealthy customers to f*ck off. Anybody surprised they did? Btw, how is it going with CANZUK and CPTPP?
If the next government is Labour .. the British people will inevitably blame Labour for the economic downturn and subsequently hail the Tory after one legislative period as their saviours.
this is tory practice trash the country and steal millions leaving an incoming government the cost of cleaning up the mess, re imburse the workers, and attempt to recover the stolen millions.
The next day after a Labour victory, the pro Brexit press will suddenly discover that Brexit _is a complete mess_ … and it's all Labours fault. This is why in a way I don't want Labour to win [I'm not British, so no skin off me]. Let the Tories and the pro Tory media _own it._ Let them be on watch when the UK breaks up. Let them be responsible for Great Britian becoming just Little England … the poor beggar of Europe that shot itself in the foot. Otherwise they will attempt to rewrite history with all the bald faced lying and gaslighting of the Murdoch press claiming that the January 6th insurrection in America was just a rowdy tourist visit.
Many didn't look beyond the immigration factor and took the wishful thinking of those promoting Brexit as "promises" at face value, not realising that the main promoter, Farage, was never, ever, in, or going to be in, a position of power to deliver what the wet dream he was spouting, sorry, promoting. Remember he phrased his dream as " we could have" ( an economy like Norway, Switzerland, Canada, - choose any one from the three to fit the narrative at the time), never, "we would have."
Brexit will result in the breakup of the UK. I for one will welcome the renaming of UK as the Duchy of Grand Fenwick. JRM will fit nicely as the ruling Duchess.
@@springchicken893 and be even worse off. Will they ever learn? Or will they want to continue worshipping at the alter of perpetually ( for them ) declining living standards?
Brexit was worth any price and some Brexiteers said they would rather eat beautiful English grass than poisoned EU food. They might get the chance sooner than expected.
Man, am I happy to live in the EU! Thanks to the Brexiteers I don´t take the EU for granted anymore. Thanks guys! Happy independence day! Greetings from wee Belgium!
Never before have I been such a big fan of the EU as I am today. I always knew it is a great organization but never realized how great it is. Greetings from Germany!
@@sigiriya5149 genuine question here, I'm not trying to pick a fight. Also a big EU fan and sad we've left. But what do Germans think of their energy policy? I've always thought it was ridiculous the way they rejected nuclear. I've visited Japan a couple of times since the fukushima disaster and it was bad but jesus, Germany's energy mix and climate commitments just don't add up do they? Greetings from miserable England
@@matty7758 Germany's energy policy is quite controversial. Personally, I was never pro-nuclear and took part in some of the big demonstrations in the 80's. The first shock came in the early 1970s with the oil crisis. Back then, Germany launched huge programs to insulate homes and other energy-saving measures. The next shock came with Chernobyl, people were very scared. Could this also happen in Germany? No, of course not, Chernobyl was caused by Russia's negligence. The bigger shock came with Fukushima, Japan isn't exactly known for sloppiness... The Germans decided we don't want something like that on our doorstep. Nuclear energy is neither clean nor cheap given the problems and costs of nuclear waste disposal.
Starmer, I understand your situation but please at least campaign to re-join the single market and customs union or for closer alignment. We cannot let this go unsolved. That's the only "Make Brexit Work" I will get behind.
@@baronvonlimbourgh1716 breiteers I really think want this to happen, the single market and customs union would be a way out with honour , But the Europeans. I think will tell us to bugger off and rightly so , we voted out and out they will make us stay , and I don’t blame them?
what i really dont understand is, that these brexit supporters are now striking for higher wages AND are supported not only by labour, but all the "lefty remainers". the voted for it.. let them eat their cake.
That’s the point they will never accept that Brexit is a disaster, with so many excuses to use, now railway strike , things were just getting on track now that happens?
@@baronvonlimbourgh1716 I’m hoping that since they can See the blatant incompetent attitudes of the government, that could influence them to make an informed decision when voting.
I'm on UK generated pensions, so I'm screwed, I'm subject to the rate of exchange, that plunged catastrophically the day after the Brexit vote ...so I'm doubly screwed.... In the twilight of my life when I just wanted to be left in peace.....Along came the Brexiteers and screwed me over ...
Inflation is tax on poverty. The total amount of wealth will remain the same. Lets say USD 10 Bln = GBP 9 Bln. If there is inflation in the UK, the total wealth remains USD 10 Bln, but in GBP it will be GBP 10 Bln, or even more. Most people will, if anything at all, only get part of the inflation corrected. The rest is 'reallocated' from working people to 'others'.
Labour need to grow a pair and start making policy to ‘fix’ this. That means being prepared to look at all options to help the economy. Do not rule out SM.
@@jounik I would imagine they'll want to keep the UK at a barge poles length for a good few years. Brexiters have nothing to worry about other than sharply declining living standards and wondering how they'll pay the next energy bill. And this has definitely, absolutely 💯 % got in no way anything to do with Brexit at all. It's just that the Brexit they voted for isn't pure enough. Hence the Reform party which they may turn to in desperation.
@@handarokadath1515 they have been very clear that as long as the tories are still so heavilly anti brexit it would be a futile effort. As long leaving again could just be an election away again it is just not going to happen. And just the single market has been ruled out by iceland and norway since the start. It would severely weaken their position so that is not even on the table.
I compare anyone who supported leaving the EU to a person throwing themselves off a cliff and claiming as soon they're clear they will not only float , but fly and soar .
Have you the IQ to look back at all the LSE shock horror predictions of the last 50 years ? They've NEVER got a thing right, They start from a blinkered prejudiced viewpoint which total undermines any realistic answers or adds a thing to the debate bar nonsense. So we can relax.
@@davidmcintyre8145 More sheltered middle class drivel. Big words with lots of syllables to try and cover up a no nothing non education and "scare" the ghastly proles away by pseudo-ism. The LSE ALWAYS spouts drivel from it's Howard Kirks who have a juvenile agenda and always get it wrong. If you can, read Malcolm Bradbury's "The History Man" still the biggest send up and expose of the pompous self righteous middle class being terribly left wing, Until you learn that all politico's of all party's are all as equally corrupt and self serving you'll get nowhere, The stupidity here is the same as on the right wing vlogs-they only spot it when "their" party does it and go all silent forgiving and throw up conspiracy theory explanations when their party does exactly the same . And the common denominator is they are ALL ("left" and "right") from nice sheltered middle class homes and went to nice schools. Outside of this bunch of self righteous prigs carrying their schoolroom squabbles, it has no relevance at all
Maximillien, thank you so much for voicing this fact here on TH-cam as I have been repeating that if brexit happened the UK economy will crush and will stifle workers wages for at least 10 year. I have been repeating this since the Brexit referendum campaigns started and since Brexiters "won"...
We where in the common market and suffering similar issues caused by OPEC. We recovered as the common market recovered . Now we are stuck recovering as a separate country with no help from others.
Some famous Brexiteer quotes from the past. Every one is a dog biting the arse of the twats that said them! Boris Johnson: "There is no plan for no deal because we are going to get a great deal" Liam Fox: "The free trade agreement that we will have to do with the European Union should be one of the easiest in human history" Gerard Batten "A trade deal with the EU could be sorted out in an afternoon over a cup of coffee" Nigel Farage: "I never promised it would be a huge success" He was F'in right there! Dominic Raab: "I hadn't quite understood the full extent of this but... we are particularly reliant on the Dover-Calais crossing" Michael Gove: 'We'd hold all the cards' after leaving the European Union" I hear playing Old Maid is his limit
Brexiters wanted to take us back to a time they remember as their halcyon days, a time of their youth when they had little care of real world events going on at the time as they saw life through rose coloured glasses. It seems they have got their wish, minus the halcyon days and the rose coloured glasses has faded and need a new prescription. In the 70s we had the winter of discontent, seems this is going to be re-enacted with a summer of discontent. The 80s wasn't a lot better. We had fuel shortages, high prices, high inflation, high interest rates, bankruptcies, businesses closing down, etc, everything we are seeing now. Petrol ration books were even issued in the mid 70s, but, as I recall, never needed. Brexiters have indeed got their wish - except they haven't turned back the clock on their age, they cannot regain their youth they were seeking, and they probably now take all night to do what they used to do all night! Brexit was an ill-thought out wishful thinking exercise engineered by the rich and narcissistic and sold to the gullible as a land of make believe. Remember Farage selling it as " We could have.." never "We would have." Besides, he was never in a position to influence or to introduce policy. Yet many believed him and his dream of ideology. The worst is yet to come, especially if the lunatics are kept in power. Fasten your safety belts...
1950s Cuba. Where corruption and favoritism dominated over welfare and prosperity. I believe we are around 1955 in terms of how bad things are getting.
this is why the people voted for the conservatives and will vote again for them, get the good old time back when the workers starved to death to produce the wealth and a good life for a few. the UK is one of the few countries that showed what a dark age was, not because of war or any natural disaster, when the Rome empire crumbles the English society broke apart, and the Scottish had still the contact with Ireland and Ireland to Spain, England field apart, the people left the cities and the fields, even a common culture disappeared until the german tribes came and settled down in a mostly empty land, the Anglos and the Saxons, they have known about this land because they served with the Rome legions there. I think it will be hilarious when all the migrants take our women and jobs end in a lower population and economy-broken country. but this is what the peoples in England voted for, never forget it was not the UK who decide this, it was the English.
The length of time it takes the British public to fully realise the harm that brexit is causing ie.. to the point that rejoining the EU becomes imperative..is inversely proportional to the British public s level of intelligence
Te services sector will likely be unaffected? No it won’t because in next 2 1/2 years the EU will pull back Euro clearing costing Britain trillions in turnover. Also it’s more then likely the free flow of data between the U.K. and the EU will be restricted, that will devastate Britains ability to do business worldwide and not only its EU business. The removing of the cap on bankers pay alone will result in more barriers being raised by the EU. Work visa for financials ( accountants, bankers even legal professionals will be restricted Why because this action is nothing less then the declaration of a trade war especially in combination with Britains obvious intent to break international law. Britain has grown overconfident because of the EU’s lack of response to earlier provocations and is no doubt woefully unprepared for the consequences of its actions.
@@casperwallace9685 I don't. I think he has been very impressive re his interviews etc. Just pointing out that he's a brexiter or was. Plus the RMT recommended that their members vote for Brexit also. Not the smartest move.
@@roisinmalone3015 Maybe not, but depends on where they get their information from the media have been 1001% on Brexit good - even tho anybody listening to an expert in their field sent out many warnings, but they got shouted down. They might have changed their mind now they see it live and living it.
But they could and will tell you what wattage electrical goods must have to export to them. So what's your gain in using one wattage inside and another outside?
Of course a switch to a Free Market model will make the UK more open and competative but like I said, Iam not certain how many in the UK know what Free Market means in an economic sense. It sounds good as slong for the ignorant while for everyone else, who think that this is another stupid idea from the Tories and the ERG, its literally a nightmare. There is nothing to prevent a company to dump their toxic waste and the regular one for example whereever they want as long they come to an agreement because in a Free Market, the market will correct itself. At least thats the theory and honestly that one is so much more unrealistic then a working communist economy!
This is what the majority of people voted for. It's time to get use to it. The UK will have to work harder and smarter from now on. The UK government will have to spend taxpayers money wisely from now on.
I've accepted Brexit, we should be building up our new role in the world, this squabbling with the EU is just insane. We should be figuring out how we can hold the union together, not distracted by the DUP.
What new role exactly? It almost seems as if Brexiteers think Britain is an aircraft carrier moving to the Pacific or something. Of course it will always be an European island just off the coast. Britain will always have to deal with Europe and can never move on without sorting that out properly.
Nothing to do with Brexit,it was the pandemic and the war in Ukraine that as brought us to this ,if Labour ever got in power heaven help this country with their open borders,you think migrants are bad now we will have millions coming in to this country ifStarmer has his way
I will not comment on your “what about ism“ No you’re pathetic blame for the countries mess as being wholly due to the war in Ukraine But will restrict my response relating to your comments on immigration. This government has given 3 million Hong Kong Chinese permission to settle in Britain plus their families plus the relations As part of any deal with India 200,000 visas will be issued for three years which means that after three years there will be a perpetual base of 600,000 Indian immigrants, many of whom will claim permanent residence and bring over their families and their parents et cetera and this will mean in 10 years a possible influx of 10 million foreign or foreign born people Suck it up
Leaving the EU was sawing off the the branch we were sitting on. Many leavers were badly misinformed and conned.
Really the rational was just look at a map of where the UK is situated. The next “fix” is leaving the court of human rights and that won’t solve any of issues facing ordinary folk, in fact UK people are subjects not citizens with a written constitution. Still Boris, Piti and Co wouldn’t abuse their power…would they?
Brexit was a vote to take back what we never lost, in order to lose everything we currently have.
They were not conned ,just to stupid to lessen to the truth.
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@@casperwallace9685 Well said!
@@casperwallace9685 , absolutely true and disastrous for UK which is now the laughing stock for the rest of the world.
Frosty: He's a real nowhere man, living in a nowhere land, making plans for nobody ...!
Clever! I'm with you on this one! 🤔😉😉
They promised a European Singapore, we got European North Korea.
North Korea can Feed itself reasonably .
Britain hasn't done that since 1832.
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@@derekmulready1523 you want a diet parsnips? Makes for more sense to import a lot of what we eat, banana plantations don't do so well in Yorkshire.
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... You could not make this up 😂 😂 😂 If you want some amusement watch the latest BBC's Newscast (23.06.22) where Farage demonstrates how clueless he is about the ECHR he said that it is the same as the EU because there is just a corridor away from the EU implying that the ECHR is a part of the EU - thick as mince just like his usual audience and he said that removing the UK from the ECHR is going to be his "Brexit. 2" when confronted about the NI Good Friday Agreement and the fact that the UK is a signatory to the ECHR he blamed the Human Rights Act on Tony Blair for being his legacy 😂 he could not say much else 🤣... He could not name any EU laws he doesn't want in the UK as he either doesn't know any of them or does not want to talk about the UK fisheries and fishing industry the only EU law of the only industry he based his entire brexit campaign on 🎣.
The most hilarious thing he said was that the UK border force should get the asylum seekers from the dinghys and get them on board and return them to France 😂😂😂😂😂
After removing from the UK citizens their EU-protected rights and freedoms including the freedom of movement,
Farage now wants to remove UK citizens' Human Rights and convert the UK into a pariah state!
Victoria Derbyshire asked him what are so far the brexit benefits, Farage couldn't point out any brexit benefit other than saying that the UK is a "free-standing" country and that the UK has been able to make a deal with Australia for submarines which were previously provided by the French government, V. Derbyshire asked him wouldn't we have been able to make such deal whilst EU members Farage said that we were unable to do this while the UK was EU member (!)..
With an economy which is at a free-fall and the majority of people struggling with the Cost of Living Crisis and unable to put food on the table because of the repercussions from leaving the EU and the single market and the Customs Union, they should have asked him what's brexit good for... Farage is THE fool of the year.... I suggest Maximillien Robespierre does annual prizes at the end of the year on a live chat and give out prizes just like they do annual prizes at the "Last Leg" for "d**k of the Year", Farage probably will get the "Pea-brain of the Year" prize.. But then again this prize may be given to him retrospectively since he declared himself at school as being a facist...
@@derekmulready1523... When the population was only 17m people and agriculture our main industry.
BORIS is the worst ‘’thing’’ ever happened to the UK since WWII.
Couldn’t agree with you more
Thatcher.
Like WW2, he will blame the Germans for it.
Nah the worst thing that has happened to the UK since WW2 is the people who voted for tory governments time after time after time. Bozo is not the cancer. he is the tumour and we fed it.
Worst thing since Brexit.
But, but
Lord Frost said official figures used to predict a 4% decline in output caused by Brexit were “zombie” numbers, based on academic studies of former communist countries, and not fact." 😃
He also said, "Does the EU want Brexit to work? Can it rise above the current frictions and work with the UK as a trusted partner, or will it continue to hassle and lecture us?” 😃
Why would the EU give a crap about whether Brexit works or not, Frosty?
Typical English delusional exceptionalism (wrt to frost daft statement)
You have to compare with what growth we would have had if we had never left.
It’s ridiculous to make a comparison between EU membership of 2016 with Brexit of 2030.
You have to ask what GDP would have had in 2030 if we had never left?
The gap is more like 28% , not 8%.
Exactly Frostie. You told the EU to piss off.
1. The EU know Brexit cannot work. Trusted partner? what a sick joke.
2. They don't have to do anything, just watch the UK's spiralling fall.
3. It is actually in their interest for Brexit to be an unmitigated disaster.
4. They knew all of this from the start.
No surprise that brexit isn't working and of course that brexiteers would blame the EU.
The lies are unravelling. Those who voted for this has condemned us all. Xenophobic and ignorance.
@@DrMontague what's that got to do with membership of a biggest trading partner?
You're attacking capitalism not membership of a trading partnership.
Capitalism is only as effective as the socialism that underpins it.
@@DrMontague is there a need to swear? If you don't know what I'm referring to that's your problem not mine. Take your foul, ignorant language and kindly go away. Very tiresome.
The Pound has dropped by 25% against the Euro since 2016
Actually the huge drop was in 2015. The markets priced in a Brexit victory when Cameron won the 2015 election.
Still falling as reality highlights just how badly the disUnited Kingdom is failing.
@@johnrussell3961 I remember on referendum day the £- euro rate was 1.40 it started to collapse as soon as the vote came in. I know this because I keep a close eye on exchange rates as I have regular monthly payments from £- euros. As we all know it is six years and is still abysmally low.
I am a full time public service worker (kids and adults) and my employment is now based around the further financial abuse of those who have already been abused beyond what you can imagine. I cannot afford to eat more than two fried eggs sandwiches per day. I am very grateful for the food bank I am signing up for and the help from neighbours. But the best help anyone can ever give their neighbourhood is to never ever vote tory again. I'm 51 and enough experience to know that the tories only ever take far more than they ever give. Please, for my life, never vote tory again. They are not Conservative, they are an English nationalist party. If it looks like a duck.... Also I am told by my pharmacist that the reason my prescription for low thyroid is constantly late is still because of supply issues borne of brexirlt, to the point I have to take sick time because i cannot function adequately, shows that were crumbling. We know our infrastructure has termites but you have no idea of the extent of that damage until you work in public services. As a canary in the mine, heed me. You will be next.
As Rees-Mogg said " It will take till 2050 to feel the full benefit of Brexit", or at least something very similar. The sad thing for me being in my early 70's is that the last useful years of my life will be spent during the breaking of Britain to accomplish their goal. A goal which is the complete opposite of their High Wage Economy (yet another empty slogan full of wind and piss)
I really hope that I am wrong, working people will be working a lot harder and longer with less rights and lower wages to meet these Tory wet dreams.
THEY NEED TO GO! If we get another Tory government we're screwed.
The worm may have turned with the news that the Tories have just lost both by elections. What has always puzzled me is that the Tories would never get in power without working class votes. why do people vote for liars?
Depressing really
We never left Europe. We remain a high cost European Country. Far more expensive than Asia , even at services, and now with an expensive standards border with the huge high cost market right next door.
So what exactly are we offering the global economy?
Dumping grounds.
money laundering? comedy? I suspect a massive deregulated environment for capitalists of all countries to exploit
If we get future Conservative Governments a Tax haven for the top 10%
Comedy, dark comedy, not funny anymore.
Nothing. Oh wait, whisky.
“Teething Problems” We were told I bet the rich Tory Chums are doing Well !
Like those you get fighting Mike Tyson.
You come from a sheltered middle class home so you back the establishment who have always wanted to be in the EU, The working class voted leave as their jobs were taken by cheap EU labour and wages supressed.(This was why Labour always wanted out of the EU until it was over run with sheltered middle class prigs such as Max, yourself and all the rest in this gormless echo chamber, To the working class, Labour now is just the sanctimonious wing of the Tory party) As a born Tory your arrogant superiority complex announced that these ghastly working class plebes are racist morons-not nearly as clever as you think you are in voting the establishment way. You can pretend you're Labour and "Left wing" but you're not. You cant escape your Tory genes. Blair spouted all the by rote "left wing" drivel spouted here 40 years ago. And like you, he couldn't help being what he really is, An establishment Tory.
I'm not sure Europe would want us back.
Why reward stupidity? Many EU members are profiting from our stupidity, ,
The scottish, not the UK.
England, no thanks! Scotland, yes please!
@@bokhans do you think Scotland would accept an English man as a political refugee.
The EU and 445 brexiteers in the EU will save brexit in the current form
Our import/exports are soon not going to matter as our domestic market spirals to the bottom. No one wants our overpriced products abroad and no one can buy overpriced imported or homegrown products. The population the UK can sustain in isolation is far below the number we have. The future is not orange. I fear it will be blood red. Desperation and hunger breeds chaos.
The EU could afford them….until we decided we wanted the cost of EU third county standards red tape added.
Now they look for cheaper internal alternatives,
Maybe move to rwanda for a better future lol.
@@johnrussell3961 The UK told the EU and the 445 wealthy customers to f*ck off. Anybody surprised they did? Btw, how is it going with CANZUK and CPTPP?
We're not about to start eating each other pal. Think you should scale the doomsday scenario back a little.
@@edc1569 Never wrote we was going to eat each other so maybe you should scale your reply down a little pal.
If the next government is Labour .. the British people will inevitably blame Labour for the economic downturn and subsequently hail the Tory after one legislative period as their saviours.
Easiest bet in history lol..
Unless they have the balls to implement PR.
They will always blame Labour because of the right wing media which is always in place.
@@baronvonlimbourgh1716 will they though .. stupidity and short shortsightedness appear more the rule. but we can live with hope for a while
this is tory practice trash the country and steal millions leaving an incoming government the cost of cleaning up the mess, re imburse the workers, and attempt to recover the stolen millions.
The next day after a Labour victory, the pro Brexit press will suddenly discover that Brexit _is a complete mess_ … and it's all Labours fault.
This is why in a way I don't want Labour to win [I'm not British, so no skin off me].
Let the Tories and the pro Tory media _own it._
Let them be on watch when the UK breaks up.
Let them be responsible for Great Britian becoming just Little England … the poor beggar of Europe that shot itself in the foot.
Otherwise they will attempt to rewrite history with all the bald faced lying and gaslighting of the Murdoch press claiming that the January 6th insurrection in America was just a rowdy tourist visit.
Honestly it shocks me how so many coudnt see how obvious it was that Brexit was going to obliterate the UKs ecoonomy
Many didn't look beyond the immigration factor and took the wishful thinking of those promoting Brexit as "promises" at face value, not realising that the main promoter, Farage, was never, ever, in, or going to be in, a position of power to deliver what the wet dream he was spouting, sorry, promoting.
Remember he phrased his dream as " we could have" ( an economy like Norway, Switzerland, Canada, - choose any one from the three to fit the narrative at the time), never, "we would have."
Sunlit Uplands
Oven Ready
Huge Wage economy
Build back Better
Brexit means Brexit
strong and stable
You forgot prancing unicorns 😃
Project Fear
Misinformation
Out right lies
Completely Unsatisfactory Nonsensical Tory Standards
Well said Hilary Benn Absolutely Spot on ! 👏❤️🙂
Can't be true Max! Frosty is adamant that it's all fine! 🤔🤣🤣🤣 Who the hell is he anyway! He failed his country and its people! 😡
He is yet another incompetent promoted to a ridiculously high position way beyond his abilities.
just your people, ours in the EU are fine!
50 years, isn't it, according to Jacon Peas Pudding?
Simple..Get rid of the Tories for ever....Bring in PR!
Brexit will result in the breakup of the UK. I for one will welcome the renaming of UK as the Duchy of Grand Fenwick.
JRM will fit nicely as the ruling Duchess.
Many of those worst off will likely vote to be even worse off by voting for their dear leader again.
Very sad.
@@springchicken893 and be even worse off. Will they ever learn? Or will they want to continue worshipping at the alter of perpetually ( for them ) declining living standards?
I've compared the anual GDP per capita and region of 2018 and 2020. People do not only suffer rising prices, but a decrease in income, too.
Brexit was worth any price and some Brexiteers said they would rather eat beautiful English grass than poisoned EU food. They might get the chance sooner than expected.
Please please just get rid of Boris and his evil Tory pals for the sake of the UK.
A closed instead of a global economy!
Man, am I happy to live in the EU! Thanks to the Brexiteers I don´t take the EU for granted anymore. Thanks guys! Happy independence day! Greetings from wee Belgium!
Never before have I been such a big fan of the EU as I am today. I always knew it is a great organization but never realized how great it is.
Greetings from Germany!
@@sigiriya5149 Germany has got a tough winter ahead...
Scotland will be back to join your union after inevitable Scottish liberation from englistani occupation
@@sigiriya5149 genuine question here, I'm not trying to pick a fight. Also a big EU fan and sad we've left. But what do Germans think of their energy policy? I've always thought it was ridiculous the way they rejected nuclear. I've visited Japan a couple of times since the fukushima disaster and it was bad but jesus, Germany's energy mix and climate commitments just don't add up do they?
Greetings from miserable England
@@matty7758 Germany's energy policy is quite controversial. Personally, I was never pro-nuclear and took part in some of the big demonstrations in the 80's. The first shock came in the early 1970s with the oil crisis. Back then, Germany launched huge programs to insulate homes and other energy-saving measures. The next shock came with Chernobyl, people were very scared. Could this also happen in Germany? No, of course not, Chernobyl was caused by Russia's negligence. The bigger shock came with Fukushima, Japan isn't exactly known for sloppiness... The Germans decided we don't want something like that on our doorstep. Nuclear energy is neither clean nor cheap given the problems and costs of nuclear waste disposal.
Hopefully a few more chickens will have come home to roost by next October.
Starmer, I understand your situation but please at least campaign to re-join the single market and customs union or for closer alignment. We cannot let this go unsolved. That's the only "Make Brexit Work" I will get behind.
He cannot be honest about the return of FOM with a softer Brexit.
He is as bad as Boris in implying we can cherry pick.
You asume that that is somehow within his control.
The only deliverable part of that campaign would be closer alignment.
@@baronvonlimbourgh1716 breiteers I really think want this to happen, the single market and customs union would be a way out with honour , But the Europeans. I think will tell us to bugger off and rightly so , we voted out and out they will make us stay , and I don’t blame them?
He'll have to start supporting the working class in their strikes first.
every brexit voter should have their wages cut to cover the cost of wages for those who did not.
I suspect a high proportion of Brexit voters are retired
Thank you for highlighting this Issue Max !
Maybe leave voters will now accept it wasn’t in OUR interest just the man they call big dog!
what i really dont understand is, that these brexit supporters are now striking for higher wages AND are supported not only by labour, but all the "lefty remainers". the voted for it.. let them eat their cake.
That’s the point they will never accept that Brexit is a disaster, with so many excuses to use, now railway strike , things were just getting on track now that happens?
Let’s hope when another election comes along people actually vote based on facts this time instead of feelings.
Labor is coopted by the same corporate vampires, what will they do differently except appear to feel badly instead of indifferently to the situation?
I don't see the tories out of power soon, and when not for long time, the English will vote for them again and again
Why would they sudenly change?
We could vote to leave over our feelings. It’s down to the EU members to let us rejoin , and they have feelings to.
Such as f””k you!
@@baronvonlimbourgh1716 I’m hoping that since they can See the blatant incompetent attitudes of the government, that could influence them to make an informed decision when voting.
I'm on UK generated pensions, so I'm screwed, I'm subject to the rate of exchange, that plunged catastrophically the day after the Brexit vote ...so I'm doubly screwed.... In the twilight of my life when I just wanted to be left in peace.....Along came the Brexiteers and screwed me over ...
the masses, royally screwing up the lives of a significant minority, thanks guys.
It's going to get worse..a little island sinking..but the wealthy are getting wealthier..
Re the Services sector remaining unaffected.
What about Mairead McGuinness's and the EU's plans re Services, the Financial sector re the EU?
Cross border services are a privilege of membership. 3rd countries have to create subsidiaries and employ EU workers.
Making Workers Poorer Surprise?¿? Turnout Tories BREXIT promises reveal them selves as never-ending lies.HIP HIP HIP HOORAY for the Tories.
Well this is a surprise 🤨
Inflation is tax on poverty.
The total amount of wealth will remain the same. Lets say USD 10 Bln = GBP 9 Bln.
If there is inflation in the UK, the total wealth remains USD 10 Bln, but in GBP it will be GBP 10 Bln, or even more. Most people will, if anything at all, only get part of the inflation corrected.
The rest is 'reallocated' from working people to 'others'.
if we tax poverty enough does it go away?
Labour need to grow a pair and start making policy to ‘fix’ this. That means being prepared to look at all options to help the economy. Do not rule out SM.
The EU members have to be willing to offer us a clone of the EEA. Many will leave us to rot.
They sadly have to operate within realistic possibilities.
@@baronvonlimbourgh1716 Exactly. One does not simply walk into the Single Market.
@@jounik I would imagine they'll want to keep the UK at a barge poles length for a good few years. Brexiters have nothing to worry about other than sharply declining living standards and wondering how they'll pay the next energy bill. And this has definitely, absolutely 💯 % got in no way anything to do with Brexit at all. It's just that the Brexit they voted for isn't pure enough. Hence the Reform party which they may turn to in desperation.
@@handarokadath1515 they have been very clear that as long as the tories are still so heavilly anti brexit it would be a futile effort.
As long leaving again could just be an election away again it is just not going to happen.
And just the single market has been ruled out by iceland and norway since the start. It would severely weaken their position so that is not even on the table.
I compare anyone who supported leaving the EU to a person throwing themselves off a cliff and claiming as soon they're clear they will not only float , but fly and soar .
I seem to remember something very similar being quoted before. Wow, that was so 2016..🤣
Yes Tories must go for the sake of this country
KABOOOOOM! Another hit by reality! Uh sorry, 'PROJECT FEAR'!
Brexit has opened the gates for a glorious journey to a dystopian Dickensian future.
Boris builds back better but below Britain's before Brexit brilliance.
Back to the 1800s
Bullshit baffles brains
But but Frosty the no-man says the experts are all wrong. So we can all relax 😂
Have you the IQ to look back at all the LSE shock horror predictions of the last 50 years ? They've NEVER got a thing right, They start from a blinkered prejudiced viewpoint which total undermines any realistic answers or adds a thing to the debate bar nonsense. So we can relax.
@@davidmcintyre8145 More sheltered middle class drivel. Big words with lots of syllables to try and cover up a no nothing non education and "scare" the ghastly proles away by pseudo-ism. The LSE ALWAYS spouts drivel from it's Howard Kirks who have a juvenile agenda and always get it wrong. If you can, read Malcolm Bradbury's "The History Man" still the biggest send up and expose of the pompous self righteous middle class being terribly left wing, Until you learn that all politico's of all party's are all as equally corrupt and self serving you'll get nowhere, The stupidity here is the same as on the right wing vlogs-they only spot it when "their" party does it and go all silent forgiving and throw up conspiracy theory explanations when their party does exactly the same . And the common denominator is they are ALL ("left" and "right") from nice sheltered middle class homes and went to nice schools. Outside of this bunch of self righteous prigs carrying their schoolroom squabbles, it has no relevance at all
I bet that sign was meant for Boris Jelzin or was it Boris Karloff?
It was taken on his last “secret” visit to Ukraine,I suspect.
Boris Karloffs real name was Willam Henry Pratt born in Camberwell london.
a bit of an insult comparing someone who acted as a monster to Johnson
@@danteshydratshirt2360 .... who is one.
Brexit is like someone shooting his own foot off and then claiming that he's now a contender for the olympic hundred-meter dash.
Maximillien, thank you so much for voicing this fact here on TH-cam as I have been repeating that if brexit happened the UK economy will crush and will stifle workers wages for at least 10 year. I have been repeating this since the Brexit referendum campaigns started and since Brexiters "won"...
Welcome to the seventies
🤔 Which ‘seventies’? The 1870s with Lord of the Manor Jacob Rees-Mogg as Prime Minister?
@@sirmeowthelibrarycat sickman of Europe
We where in the common market and suffering similar issues caused by OPEC. We recovered as the common market recovered .
Now we are stuck recovering as a separate country with no help from others.
The 1870s
@@johnrussell3961 exactly
Some famous Brexiteer quotes from the past. Every one is a dog biting the arse of the twats that said them!
Boris Johnson: "There is no plan for no deal because we are going to get a great deal"
Liam Fox: "The free trade agreement that we will have to do with the European Union should be one of the easiest in human history"
Gerard Batten "A trade deal with the EU could be sorted out in an afternoon over a cup of coffee"
Nigel Farage: "I never promised it would be a huge success" He was F'in right there!
Dominic Raab: "I hadn't quite understood the full extent of this but... we are particularly reliant on the Dover-Calais crossing"
Michael Gove: 'We'd hold all the cards' after leaving the European Union" I hear playing Old Maid is his limit
They’re all a bunch of donkeys it’s unreal.
It seems that tories and some people in the UK were living in a rainbow ponies world!
Broken Brexit Britain
Brexiters wanted to take us back to a time they remember as their halcyon days, a time of their youth when they had little care of real world events going on at the time as they saw life through rose coloured glasses.
It seems they have got their wish, minus the halcyon days and the rose coloured glasses has faded and need a new prescription.
In the 70s we had the winter of discontent, seems this is going to be re-enacted with a summer of discontent.
The 80s wasn't a lot better.
We had fuel shortages, high prices, high inflation, high interest rates, bankruptcies, businesses closing down, etc, everything we are seeing now.
Petrol ration books were even issued in the mid 70s, but, as I recall, never needed.
Brexiters have indeed got their wish - except they haven't turned back the clock on their age, they cannot regain their youth they were seeking, and they probably now take all night to do what they used to do all night!
Brexit was an ill-thought out wishful thinking exercise engineered by the rich and narcissistic and sold to the gullible as a land of make believe.
Remember Farage selling it as " We could have.." never "We would have."
Besides, he was never in a position to influence or to introduce policy. Yet many believed him and his dream of ideology.
The worst is yet to come, especially if the lunatics are kept in power.
Fasten your safety belts...
Tide goes out you discover whos been swimming naked
1950s Cuba. Where corruption and favoritism dominated over welfare and prosperity.
I believe we are around 1955 in terms of how bad things are getting.
🤔 That is why the revolutionaries led by Fidel Castro and Che Guevara threw the criminals out of Cuba.
I think we are around 1984
@@growlerthe2nd712 in Communist Warsaw Pact.
expect Russia to offer us nukes
Luckilly it was all project fear......
this is why the people voted for the conservatives and will vote again for them, get the good old time back when the workers starved to death to produce the wealth and a good life for a few. the UK is one of the few countries that showed what a dark age was, not because of war or any natural disaster, when the Rome empire crumbles the English society broke apart, and the Scottish had still the contact with Ireland and Ireland to Spain, England field apart, the people left the cities and the fields, even a common culture disappeared until the german tribes came and settled down in a mostly empty land, the Anglos and the Saxons, they have known about this land because they served with the Rome legions there. I think it will be hilarious when all the migrants take our women and jobs end in a lower population and economy-broken country. but this is what the peoples in England voted for, never forget it was not the UK who decide this, it was the English.
You mean the Ængle or Angli (Latin) for whom the country of [East]Anglia -> Engel(-land) was named after.
The gift that keeps on giving ,welcome to the sunlit uplands of global Britain
Keep calm and carry on.
I note most of my phone and mobile contracts are RPI+. Inflation was engineered by Sunak and govt refuse to do anything to mitigate it
"Review the deal", when the UK never complied with its part of the deal in the first place.
Not the way the EU sees things, hence...
Why do The British call their PM by the first name?
Because he's unworthy of respect.
Of course it is anyone with knowledge and interest in whats been going on can see this.
The length of time it takes the British public to fully realise the harm that brexit is causing ie.. to the point that rejoining the EU becomes imperative..is inversely proportional to the British public s level of intelligence
What happened to the Millions put aside for the Party to celebrate Brexit ????
they are waiting for the Sue Gray report
(3.30) There is ZERO substance in that statement. Just fantasy waffle that means nothing.
Hey Max, perhaps you could display a correct version of the Union Flag next time!
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Te services sector will likely be unaffected? No it won’t because in next 2 1/2 years the EU will pull back Euro clearing costing Britain trillions in turnover. Also it’s more then likely the free flow of data between the U.K. and the EU will be restricted, that will devastate Britains ability to do business worldwide and not only its EU business. The removing of the cap on bankers pay alone will result in more barriers being raised by the EU. Work visa for financials ( accountants, bankers even legal professionals will be restricted Why because this action is nothing less then the declaration of a trade war especially in combination with Britains obvious intent to break international law. Britain has grown overconfident because of the EU’s lack of response to earlier provocations and is no doubt woefully unprepared for the consequences of its actions.
MICK LYNCH FOR PM.....THUMBS 👆
Absofuckinglootly
He's a brexiter
@@roisinmalone3015 What, is he not allowed his own opinion now a days. How do you know he has not changed his mind?
@@casperwallace9685
I don't.
I think he has been very impressive re his interviews etc.
Just pointing out that he's a brexiter or was.
Plus the RMT recommended that their members vote for Brexit also.
Not the smartest move.
@@roisinmalone3015 Maybe not, but depends on where they get their information from the media have been 1001% on Brexit good - even tho anybody listening to an expert in their field sent out many warnings, but they got shouted down. They might have changed their mind now they see it live and living it.
i wont travel to North Korea..
i wont travel to the UK...
they did it!
A good summary.
Why should unelected foreigners tell us what wattage electrical goods we can use? If it could be just trade as originally then ok.
But they could and will tell you what wattage electrical goods must have to export to them. So what's your gain in using one wattage inside and another outside?
It’s the WEF. Watch this space……
6 years ago today.
So what will make them richer?
were doomed! Victorian Britain mk2
Scottish liberation from occupation kingdom can't come soon enough,then we can get back to a proper union with EU
Do you have any of those? Level headed pragmatists, I mean. (Asking from outside the UK)
Of course a switch to a Free Market model will make the UK more open and competative but like I said, Iam not certain how many in the UK know what Free Market means in an economic sense. It sounds good as slong for the ignorant while for everyone else, who think that this is another stupid idea from the Tories and the ERG, its literally a nightmare.
There is nothing to prevent a company to dump their toxic waste and the regular one for example whereever they want as long they come to an agreement because in a Free Market, the market will correct itself. At least thats the theory and honestly that one is so much more unrealistic then a working communist economy!
How will we become competitive with those who are much cheaper? Pay Asian wages?
@@johnrussell3961Yes, that way, only that way.
We where lied to again .time they where band from using all his fauls information
There always was a conflict between having a more open economy and at the same time closing the borders for foreigners, it seems to me.
Was that a '' YMCA get together '' '
This is what the majority of people voted for. It's time to get use to it. The UK will have to work harder and smarter from now on. The UK government will have to spend taxpayers money wisely from now on.
No they did not. More to the point it's strange that the morons who voted for the shitshow expect everyone else to dig them out.
I really, really wish that all them of us plebs who pushed the fvk1n Brexit referendum over the line will lose their homes for to loss of income.
I've accepted Brexit, we should be building up our new role in the world, this squabbling with the EU is just insane. We should be figuring out how we can hold the union together, not distracted by the DUP.
What new role exactly?
It almost seems as if Brexiteers think Britain is an aircraft carrier moving to the Pacific or something.
Of course it will always be an European island just off the coast. Britain will always have to deal with Europe and can never move on without sorting that out properly.
Re-invade the Faulklands.(Malvinas).
Liberate them after Scotland
This is why I voted for Brexit.
Me too # its just fantastic. 😎
Nothing to do with Brexit,it was the pandemic and the war in Ukraine that as brought us to this ,if Labour ever got in power heaven help this country with their open borders,you think migrants are bad now we will have millions coming in to this country ifStarmer has his way
I will not comment on your “what about ism“ No you’re pathetic blame for the countries mess as being wholly due to the war in Ukraine But will restrict my response relating to your comments on immigration.
This government has given 3 million Hong Kong Chinese permission to settle in Britain plus their families plus the relations
As part of any deal with India 200,000 visas will be issued for three years which means that after three years there will be a perpetual base of 600,000 Indian immigrants, many of whom will claim permanent residence and bring over their families and their parents et cetera and this will mean in 10 years a possible influx of 10 million foreign or foreign born people Suck it up
We Love Boris = MAGA cretins
Did you just Trump self-trigger??! 😂 Rent-free dude