Not only is Kyle a great racer, he's an historian of it as well. He definitely belongs on the Mt. Rushmore of drivers, like him or not, he is one of the greatest to ever do it.
Haha you say that about every episode. Just messin with you. As Kyle has aged his attitude has changed considerably. I have totally enjoyed all of the Kenny Conversations. Hope you can find victory lane at Daytona next year Kyle.
Kyle Busch, more so than any other driver, seems so intimidating and stoic, like he’d be hard to approach and engage in a normal everyday conversation, I truly admire him and all his accomplishments, what an amazing career and human being!
I never was a fan of Kyle, but I'm starting to really like him. He is the first to call out what's wrong with NASCAR . He's a really smart dude and one of the best drivers.
I am an Old #3 Man when I saw Kyle driving The #5 car I knew he was by new driver n happy to say Kyle kept me into NASCAR Kyle has The greatest attitude from the beginning .Thanks Guy's
I didn't like Kyle Busch in the late 2000's because I was a dumb teenager who didn't like that he won a lot (also see Jimmie Johnson) and because he kept Dale Jr winless for longer, but around the mid 2010's I started to appreciate him, he's one of the last boom period drivers left
I enjoy watching Kyle’s and his son’s channels. I’ve wondered how he has time to do his racing and so much racing with his son. Wife/mom is a big part in the whole deal too. Great family to subscribe to. Thanks Kenny for getting him on the show
I've been a Kyle Busch fan since he came in to Nascar, but this was an amazing interview. He shared information about his past that I hadn't heard before. Before your brother retiring in 2005 he was my driver. I still have my leather #2 Rusty jacket and many of his diecasts. Keep up the great interviewing Kenny you're great with each and every person and personalities.
Both Kyle and Kurt are team builders. Look at what Kurt did at Furniture Row, and basically everywhere he went. If he doesn't have the record for having driven for the most teams, then I don't know who does.
Great interview Herm! KB has been my guy since the Hendrick days. Really, the only reason I watch most weekends. It's been a heck of a journey, but this version of Kyle is one of my favorites. Can't wait for RCR to sort things out so he can rattle off some more wins!!!
My guy! Love KB. Great interview, Kenny... Go get em, Kyle. Many more wins to come. You are def one of the greats! I’ve really enjoyed following Brex, too. What a great lil driver!
Also I would like to point out, The best fight video EVER was when Kyle walked up and decked Joey Lugano. No talking on the TV, no warnings, Kyle walked down there knowing he was by himself taking on Joey’s team but Kyle manned up and handled his business. I ain’t got the balls to do it but much respect to Kyle for doing it.
I was in no way a Kyle fan his first 10 years or so, but now he is one of if not my favorite driver.. regardless of how you feel about him you have to respect what he has done statistically.. I think with even cars, he would walk away from the field... Kinda like Kobe, hated in the #8 but loved in the #8 jersey.... they grow up and exceed expectations of everybody... truly one of the greatest to ever do it..
Loved this interview Kenny! I've started to really like Kyle over the years too. Thank you for covering what the ridiculous Nascar shows refuse to cover. THIS is what draws people in to the sport.
Great interview I'm 40 been around racing my whole life mostly dirt and the technology part of all of it blows my mind to see what it has became its really wild to sit back and look at the big picture of it all
For a long time I didn’t like Kyle Busch. To much talent on the track for me to enjoy watching. But I think the more interviews I see of Kyle, the more he talks about his family, the more I realize how relatable a person he is, and how I actually enjoy listening to him talk! Keep up the good work Herm and Kyle!
Kyle's on point about what he said regarding underbody airflow and diffusers. Just because your mom's Camry has one tacked on to the rear valance doesn't mean we should have them in NASCAR. But the bottom line is that no matter what they do to the car, there will always be a huge advantage to clean air.
I think it is GREAT that one of NASCAR's Best has mellowed and become a Respected voice in the sport. His resume' heralds back to the Iron Men of of the sport and his career accomplishments will never be duplicated by todays young drivers. Thank You Kyle for the decades of EXCITEMENT!....
I would like to thank both, Kyle and Kenny for the honesty!! Some people have no idea the countless hour's of work on the cars. As well as discussing what the car is doing right and wrong, and where on the track. To bad Nascar doesn't let the teams do as much as they want . Track live texting. Not only a little here and their. Even at those test days, it's more texting out Goodyear tires. Nascar basically gives you a kit car. So why not let the teams test where and when they want. With Nascar officials there with them as well, of course. Nascar want the races to be entertaining and keep cost down so smaller teams have a better chance. But when one cares downforce gets taken our a blowout tire. It can take many out. That cost teams lots of money. Great stuff guy's!!!
Wow. That hour went by way too fast. I’ll be the first to admit, I was not a Kyle Bush fan. I’ll tell you what, he’s mellowed with age, and so has my position on Kyle as a racer, and as a person. Maybe it takes getting to know someone better to come up with understanding. Seeing him with Brexton and Samantha, you get so see the whole man. And I’m now liking what I see.
Hello, Kenny thank you for the great video Kyle is for sure a great person , great family, I want to shake his hand some day, I almost got the chance one day in a restaurant in Indiana , I was working a storm there and at lunch time went in and the people there said Kyle and his family was just there, dang almost happened, I meet you at nebo , western Ky speedway, you signed my push truck sazuki samurai , still have the memories .
I was at the Bristol fall races, 2106. Yes, he was on top of his car with the broom. Witnessed a lot of boos and Rowdy fans cheering for him. It was definitely fun being around couples who one was Kyle Busch fan and the other a Brad Kesolowski fan.
I love Kyle Busch now as a longtime Gordon fan. Now I root for Hendrick as a whole but watching Kurt and Kyle I started to love watching them win more and more. What they have done in this sport is just incredible.
My dad started racing in the 40s. Grandfather in the 30s. Back then I was rather small and my 1st job was using the jeweler's rouge to polish the cylinder walls, ports, pistons, crankshafts, etc.
You're doing a Great Job, Kenny. My Little Brother lives in Batesville Arkansas. Kevin McCormick. Hangs out with Wendell Wallace and lives beside Billy Moyer. LoL. Small World. Love your Videos and Continue doing Great 👍 things
Great show Kenny & Kyle. Man, how times have changed (for me). To be honest never rooted for Kyle but I find myself rooting for him weekend since I feel he got hosed by JGR (in my opinion) right or wrong. GO Kyle. Could have listened to Kyle for another hour Kenny Need Kyle back on soon.
I’m so glad you got Kyle to talk about what his dad taught him about respecting your car and understanding your car so as to not destroy it so you can work on making it better versus fixing it just to make the race. Kenny do you know who did the interview of Kyle before he started his 1st truck race when Kyle was working at a store that sold Nascar memorabilia and Kurt was bragging about how good he was? It would be cool to see that replayed. I wonder if Braxton ever gives Kyle any cheer up advise after a bad race that maybe Kyle said to Braxton after a bad race?
I truly think that if they allowed Hosier or any other tire manufacturer, to make tires for NASCAR, the racing would get MUCH better! Anytime you have competition, you will get a better product! I never was a big Kyle fan, but you have to give it to him, he is one of the best to ever get behind a Wheel for NASCAR! Good luck Kyle on bringing RCR another championship!!
👍🤠 Good conversation Kenny. Kyle talking about seats being hard bolted to the floor reminds me of something. I used to work for the Army (not in army) at Ft Irwin (Barstow CA) but I got to see a lot of cool vehicles one was the replacement for the Hummvee I think called MRAP (I think) anyway the seats were suspended from the ceiling by some kind of bungee or spring (very heavy duty of course) has NASCAR ever looked into something like that? Or stupid idea?
Did you get your race car lowered and the bigger oil pan on? Im not sure Capital or Longhorn have a jig for the rabbit shape might want to check with your local race sanction on this design. They will get back with you watch your mail.
Like him or not, he is hands down the smartest, hardest working driver in the garage. Anywhere he goes he finds speed. He was once young, and once a punk but we all were. He’s came a long way and I can say I respect the heck out of this guy
Kyle has Accomplished so much in NASCAR,He will be in the Hall of Fame for NASCAR, I thought He was too Cocky before, but Now I have a New Found Respect for Him.
Kenny, great job (again), thanks for making an interview that keeps me to the end with relevant insight...becoming as interesting to listen to as Art Bell....
Rowdy! U the man! U WILK get a Ford ride u WILK be the best ever I believe ! An ur a great guy just lime me that's why I pick u every race !since u started!thanks for all the great moments!
I know Kyle has a lot more to give in the NASCAR top series. I jumped from Hendrick all 4 cars to RCR #8 car, I heard the comparison that RC made of Kyle and Dale Sr and I agree 100%. I thought that Kyle was the rightful man for that number 3 car. And honestly believe that Kyle, on the #3 car can easily deliver the fans favorite driver award for as long as he's career last. And honestly I don't believe that the Dale family should be involved in that decision at all. But it's done and now the #8 will be the number for Kyle the rest of his time on RCR.
Never will forget this kid driving in his first Daytona 500 and coming out of turn 3 slamming his 5 car to the bottom of the track. I said to myself this kid is gonna be somebody 🏁
I didn't really like Kyle's attitude when he was in the middle of his career, and it helped me understand why he struck back so hard because everybody was striking at him. So I liked the understanding, but I've never ever denied that he's a good driver. I've always told people he's a great driver, I just sometimes didn't like him because of his attitude when he was younger. But I guess some of it was brought on by how he was treated. So Hey, it's all good. It was a great interview, and he has a great attitude now, good on him. Thanks, Kenny.
Not only is Kyle a great racer, he's an historian of it as well. He definitely belongs on the Mt. Rushmore of drivers, like him or not, he is one of the greatest to ever do it.
Agreed
Dale jr. Is our historian.
@@jerrywagner4690 Nice.
Herm.. this was one of the best shows you have had.. !! Much respect to you and Kyle !!
Kenny the best!
I'm not a Denny Hamlin fan but I think the leader of the race should get an advantage on the start or what good is to be the leader of the race
Haha you say that about every episode. Just messin with you. As Kyle has aged his attitude has changed considerably. I have totally enjoyed all of the Kenny Conversations. Hope you can find victory lane at Daytona next year Kyle.
@@bryanmorton5504 I wouldn’t be against Denny Hamlin pulling off a Bobby Allison to be honest.
Kyle Busch is one of the all time greats & still going. Hope he wins many more in all series..... One of your best Interviews
Kyle Busch, more so than any other driver, seems so intimidating and stoic, like he’d be hard to approach and engage in a normal everyday conversation, I truly admire him and all his accomplishments, what an amazing career and human being!
Good interview. Never thought I would listen to a Kyle Busch interview. But truthfully I found it very informative and interesting. Go Rowdy Nation!!
Kenny did his homework and also fluffed him up to lol it works every time
I used to HATE Kyle but I have ALWAYS respected him. Now I love the guy. He has grown up to be both a fine man and Father. I am proud to wear his Hat!
Kyle we'll get through this slump. We're with you #RowdyNation 🏁🏁🏁
We are only 8 races in.
Yeah right rcr is terrible I mean terrible
I never was a fan of Kyle, but I'm starting to really like him. He is the first to call out what's wrong with NASCAR . He's a really smart dude and one of the best drivers.
@@hubslife2770 Kyle Busch won 3 races last year. And we are only 9 races in. And there is Talladega.
Kenny is so original and to the point no one can compare!
These shows are hidden gems
Never thought I would take the time to listen to him. We all grow up and continue to learn. Thanks
Kyle Busch is 38.
That says more about you?
And your point is? He and I have both matured. Sounds like you have to.
Kyle Busch probably the Best we ever had!
lol nope he went to rcr a terrible team
Yeah but that dont take away what he can do in a race car. Shows he not scared to take a chance! Hope you get that G!
KB is just bad ass. And Herman, so are you. Great interview.
I am an Old #3 Man when I saw Kyle driving The #5 car I knew he was by new driver n happy to say Kyle kept me into NASCAR
Kyle has The greatest attitude from the beginning .Thanks Guy's
Kyle is getting more and more likable. I didn't see this coming but I am OK with it! Enjoying your content, keep it up.
"The fans of NASCAR and Kyle himself didn't realize he was carrying the sport on his back after 2015" is a quote I remember seeing
He carried it longer than that. If it weren't for him fans wouldn't have had anything to talk about. 💯
I didn't like Kyle Busch in the late 2000's because I was a dumb teenager who didn't like that he won a lot (also see Jimmie Johnson) and because he kept Dale Jr winless for longer, but around the mid 2010's I started to appreciate him, he's one of the last boom period drivers left
It’s hard to believe that is who I sooo despised back then. Did he change or did I? Maybe both of us did a little maturing since then.
@@dane.9230well as they say the older you get the wiser you get and that’s what both of you guys did
I enjoy watching Kyle’s and his son’s channels. I’ve wondered how he has time to do his racing and so much racing with his son. Wife/mom is a big part in the whole deal too. Great family to subscribe to. Thanks Kenny for getting him on the show
I've been a Kyle Busch fan since he came in to Nascar, but this was an amazing interview. He shared information about his past that I hadn't heard before. Before your brother retiring in 2005 he was my driver. I still have my leather #2 Rusty jacket and many of his diecasts. Keep up the great interviewing Kenny you're great with each and every person and personalities.
Great Job Kenny! Racers just seem to know what to ask better than the typical media professional. Kyle is one of the best no doubt.
Great show! Been following Kyle since I met him at Jennerstown Speedway in the ASA series, still have that photo with him. 👍
Great interview Kenny. Both Busch bro's have been/ are huge asset to the teams they've driven for.
Both Kyle and Kurt are team builders. Look at what Kurt did at Furniture Row, and basically everywhere he went. If he doesn't have the record for having driven for the most teams, then I don't know who does.
This is a the best interview I've seen. Thanks Kenny and kyle. priceless.
I have always been a Kyle and Kurt Busch fan.
Great interview, Kenny
Great interview Herm! KB has been my guy since the Hendrick days. Really, the only reason I watch most weekends. It's been a heck of a journey, but this version of Kyle is one of my favorites. Can't wait for RCR to sort things out so he can rattle off some more wins!!!
He’s the CATDADDY ! Total BADASS!!
Thank you Kenny for that interview with Kyle. I loved hearing that conversation with you and him. He is the GOAT IN THIS GENARATION
Thanks Ken̈ny! I've never been a KB fan but seeing him in this gives me a new prospective. GO KYLE!
This was awesome 👏 thanks so much
Wow!! Got Kyle on the show 💪🏻
My guy! Love KB. Great interview, Kenny... Go get em, Kyle. Many more wins to come. You are def one of the greats! I’ve really enjoyed following Brex, too. What a great lil driver!
Fantastic interview! Thank you Kenny and Kyle!
Also I would like to point out, The best fight video EVER was when Kyle walked up and decked Joey Lugano. No talking on the TV, no warnings, Kyle walked down there knowing he was by himself taking on Joey’s team but Kyle manned up and handled his business. I ain’t got the balls to do it but much respect to Kyle for doing it.
Great interview! Kyle is a great racer.
Thank you Kenny! Thats one hell of a racer. Its awesome that people love and respect you it shows with these Kenny conversations! Good stuff Bossman!
Always good to learn more about Kyle and his opinions about everything. Good interview!
I find the setup changes from race to race at the same track very fascinating
I was in no way a Kyle fan his first 10 years or so, but now he is one of if not my favorite driver.. regardless of how you feel about him you have to respect what he has done statistically.. I think with even cars, he would walk away from the field...
Kinda like Kobe, hated in the #8 but loved in the #8 jersey.... they grow up and exceed expectations of everybody... truly one of the greatest to ever do it..
Thank you Kenny for being a good interviewer and letting the guests answer questions without interrupting. This was a great interview well done!
What a great interview. So glad you had Kyle on your show. Keep up the good work.
His Daytona 500 win will dwarf Dales. We don't fully understand that KB is our Do It For Dale moment in our last great generation of legendary drivers
wow! what a treat this like two of the best,The greatest driver of all time and the my all time podcaster and dirt car racer ! Love you guys
Great interview. Thanks for taking us subscriber's along for the ride. ✌️👍🤙🤙😎😁🍀🍀🍀🍀🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲🇺🇲
What a great interview, I really enjoyed listening to it❤
Boy what a mature Kyle bush. Was a very good interview herm.
Thank you for all you do Kenny, awesome interviews and insight!
Awesome interview Kenny u da man
I am glad you are making so many videos these days.
Every now and then I go back and watch you pushing Sr to the win at dega. Iconic
I watch that race frequently. Love Kenny and Joe's post race interview.
Great show Herm. Thanks to you and KB!
Great interview, Kyle Bush, a great Talent good for Nascar
☮️Ana☯️
Great interview Kenny!
This KB fan learned a lot more about him, always a fan!
Great interview Kenny. Was never until later Kyle or Kurt fans. I am later in life. Certainly respected them.
I really enjoyed this.
Thanks!!
Rowdy Nation for life. Great interview!
Loved this interview Kenny! I've started to really like Kyle over the years too. Thank you for covering what the ridiculous Nascar shows refuse to cover. THIS is what draws people in to the sport.
Great interview I'm 40 been around racing my whole life mostly dirt and the technology part of all of it blows my mind to see what it has became its really wild to sit back and look at the big picture of it all
For a long time I didn’t like Kyle Busch. To much talent on the track for me to enjoy watching. But I think the more interviews I see of Kyle, the more he talks about his family, the more I realize how relatable a person he is, and how I actually enjoy listening to him talk! Keep up the good work Herm and Kyle!
Finally the interview that we have all been waiting for
Kyle's on point about what he said regarding underbody airflow and diffusers. Just because your mom's Camry has one tacked on to the rear valance doesn't mean we should have them in NASCAR. But the bottom line is that no matter what they do to the car, there will always be a huge advantage to clean air.
Awesome interview, as you can tell Kenny Conversations is new to me but awesome job Kenny!
I think it is GREAT that one of NASCAR's Best has mellowed and become a Respected voice in the sport. His resume' heralds back to the Iron Men of of the sport and his career accomplishments will never be duplicated by todays young drivers. Thank You Kyle for the decades of EXCITEMENT!....
Hard to beat this interview with Kyle, he is the man and I like his new mellowed attitude
great show. KB-18-8
I would like to thank both, Kyle and Kenny for the honesty!! Some people have no idea the countless hour's of work on the cars. As well as discussing what the car is doing right and wrong, and where on the track. To bad Nascar doesn't let the teams do as much as they want . Track live texting. Not only a little here and their. Even at those test days, it's more texting out Goodyear tires. Nascar basically gives you a kit car. So why not let the teams test where and when they want. With Nascar officials there with them as well, of course. Nascar want the races to be entertaining and keep cost down so smaller teams have a better chance. But when one cares downforce gets taken our a blowout tire. It can take many out. That cost teams lots of money. Great stuff guy's!!!
Great interview! Thoroughly enjoyed it!
great show kenny
🤘🏻😎🤘🏻
Awesome stuff, dude
Thank you Kenny and Kyle Kenny you got the best show
87 was my Uncle's ARCA number! I always loved that 2 of my favorite drivers drove the same number.
Mark Martin was my hero then he retired, Now the Guy I am a fan of is KFB in my book they are both Goats
Great interview!!
Wow. That hour went by way too fast. I’ll be the first to admit, I was not a Kyle Bush fan. I’ll tell you what, he’s mellowed with age, and so has my position on Kyle as a racer, and as a person. Maybe it takes getting to know someone better to come up with understanding. Seeing him with Brexton and Samantha, you get so see the whole man. And I’m now liking what I see.
Hello, Kenny thank you for the great video Kyle is for sure a great person , great family, I want to shake his hand some day, I almost got the chance one day in a restaurant in Indiana , I was working a storm there and at lunch time went in and the people there said Kyle and his family was just there, dang almost happened, I meet you at nebo , western Ky speedway, you signed my push truck sazuki samurai , still have the memories .
I was at the Bristol fall races, 2106. Yes, he was on top of his car with the broom.
Witnessed a lot of boos and Rowdy fans cheering for him.
It was definitely fun being around couples who one was Kyle Busch fan and the other a Brad Kesolowski fan.
I love Kyle Busch now as a longtime Gordon fan. Now I root for Hendrick as a whole but watching Kurt and Kyle I started to love watching them win more and more. What they have done in this sport is just incredible.
My dad started racing in the 40s. Grandfather in the 30s. Back then I was rather small and my 1st job was using the jeweler's rouge to polish the cylinder walls, ports, pistons, crankshafts, etc.
⚡️KB18's Words regarding Mr. Martin is Total Truth. Same Here, Sir! Great Interview!
👏😎🤔✌️🤟
You're doing a Great Job, Kenny. My Little Brother lives in Batesville Arkansas. Kevin McCormick. Hangs out with Wendell Wallace and lives beside Billy Moyer. LoL. Small World. Love your Videos and Continue doing Great 👍 things
Good job, Kenny! ⚡💥🎉🏆
Great interview
Great show Kenny & Kyle. Man, how times have changed (for me). To be honest never rooted for Kyle but I find myself rooting for him weekend since I feel he got hosed by JGR (in my opinion) right or wrong. GO Kyle. Could have listened to Kyle for another hour Kenny Need Kyle back on soon.
I’m so glad you got Kyle to talk about what his dad taught him about respecting your car and understanding your car so as to not destroy it so you can work on making it better versus fixing it just to make the race.
Kenny do you know who did the interview of Kyle before he started his 1st truck race when Kyle was working at a store that sold Nascar memorabilia and Kurt was bragging about how good he was? It would be cool to see that replayed.
I wonder if Braxton ever gives Kyle any cheer up advise after a bad race that maybe Kyle said to Braxton after a bad race?
Great show Herm!
I truly think that if they allowed Hosier or any other tire manufacturer, to make tires for NASCAR, the racing would get MUCH better! Anytime you have competition, you will get a better product! I never was a big Kyle fan, but you have to give it to him, he is one of the best to ever get behind a Wheel for NASCAR! Good luck Kyle on bringing RCR another championship!!
👍🤠 Good conversation Kenny. Kyle talking about seats being hard bolted to the floor reminds me of something. I used to work for the Army (not in army) at Ft Irwin (Barstow CA) but I got to see a lot of cool vehicles one was the replacement for the Hummvee I think called MRAP (I think) anyway the seats were suspended from the ceiling by some kind of bungee or spring (very heavy duty of course) has NASCAR ever looked into something like that? Or stupid idea?
being in Chicago. i have so much respect
Did you get your race car lowered and the bigger oil pan on? Im not sure Capital or Longhorn have a jig for the rabbit shape might want to check with your local race sanction on this design. They will get back with you watch your mail.
I LOVE me some ROWDY!!💜
Like him or not, he is hands down the smartest, hardest working driver in the garage. Anywhere he goes he finds speed. He was once young, and once a punk but we all were. He’s came a long way and I can say I respect the heck out of this guy
Kyle has Accomplished so much in NASCAR,He will be in the Hall of Fame for NASCAR, I thought He was too Cocky before, but Now I have a New Found Respect for Him.
Kenny, great job (again), thanks for making an interview that keeps me to the end with relevant insight...becoming as interesting to listen to as Art Bell....
You are the best Kyle, RowdyNation4Life
Rowdy! U the man! U WILK get a Ford ride u WILK be the best ever I believe ! An ur a great guy just lime me that's why I pick u every race !since u started!thanks for all the great moments!
I know Kyle has a lot more to give in the NASCAR top series. I jumped from Hendrick all 4 cars to RCR #8 car, I heard the comparison that RC made of Kyle and Dale Sr and I agree 100%.
I thought that Kyle was the rightful man for that number 3 car. And honestly believe that Kyle, on the #3 car can easily deliver the fans favorite driver award for as long as he's career last. And honestly I don't believe that the Dale family should be involved in that decision at all. But it's done and now the #8 will be the number for Kyle the rest of his time on RCR.
Kenny if everyone loved life and their family like you do we wouldn’t even need laws or authorities
Good interview and much respect to both of these guys but as far as NASCAR racing I'll stick to Saturday night local racing.
Thank you sir, old man tom.
"There's another Bush comin'..." Love it.
I hope that RCR and Kyle can return to Greatness soon. This guys records will never beat!
Never will forget this kid driving in his first Daytona 500 and coming out of turn 3 slamming his 5 car to the bottom of the track. I said to myself this kid is gonna be somebody 🏁
He used to be my less favorite driver and now he's my favorite driver!
I didn't really like Kyle's attitude when he was in the middle of his career, and it helped me understand why he struck back so hard because everybody was striking at him. So I liked the understanding, but I've never ever denied that he's a good driver. I've always told people he's a great driver, I just sometimes didn't like him because of his attitude when he was younger. But I guess some of it was brought on by how he was treated. So Hey, it's all good. It was a great interview, and he has a great attitude now, good on him. Thanks, Kenny.
Hard to believe that RCR hasn't won a Championship since #3 in 1994
30 years of a hell of a grind to get that Championship.