Can’t just put roofs everywhere. It’s so big compared to the other equipment there. If done right it should hold up without a roof. Roofs can also trap moisture Which in the wet climate of PA can be counterproductive for the stability of the engine.
@@ZeldaTheSwordsman the museum… and that UP would never reuse anything like that. 99.9 percent of the time UP will make something like that, never reuse the old material.
Before anyone says anything regarding operation, no! 4012's restoration was only cosmetic, the eastern US is not a favorable place to run 4012 and Steamtown can't run it anywhere if they were to restore it to run again. 4012 will remain on display for the foreseeable future. Be grateful that we have an operational Big Boy at all.
Why can't they operate it on the east coast......it is an articulated engine and can I have seen it's sister engine 4014 in Cheyanne Wy. yard coming out the shop on to the main line without any trouble.......yard turns are a lot sharper than any main lines on the east coast!!!!! Steamtown really miss the boat when U.P. restored 4014 didn't they? next you tell money was an issue.....
Great show,#4012 is the only Big Boy I've ever seen, when I saw it she was in really bad shape,bravo on such a nice job making it look like new again !!
@@trenchantsometimes5149 Years ago there was talk of operating it on compressed air so it could move back and for a bit, but I don't know whatever happened to that idea.
4012 was among consideration for the Union Pacific to restore due to its great shape compared to its brothers, however they ended up choosing 4014 due to the tracks surrounding 4012 to likely not be in good enough shape to hold it.
Steamtown only has ONE operating locomotive. The 0-6-0 Baldwin #26. They used to have the 3354, and 2317 operating. Now excursions are done with diesels.
We’re actually going to St Louis to the show there while 4014 is there. It’s a little drive from indianapolis it’s definitely doable. We had talked about going to visit Steamtown to see you. Is this the site in PA?
4012 looks like 4014 when it is restored. But what's the diffrence between 4014 and 4012? Well, let me tell you. 4014 uses 3985's oil tender which means that 4014 now runs on oil. While 4012 still has its coal tender. Also, 4014 is running and 4012 is on display.
@@EvilTurkeySlices Perhaps transporting 4012 across country was daunting plus it's the property of the US Government and who knows how much red tape would have been involved trying to get it. It's now cosmetically restored which I think is as far as it's going. I'm sure UP knows what they're doing. 4014 was chosen and is up and running despite years of naysayers convinced a Big Boy would never run again.
Unfortunately, no. This was just a cosmetic restoration. The East coast rail system is not favorable to operate the Big Boy locomotives. That's why UP #4014's excursions don't come far East.
It was removed from public display to be cosmetically restored and to have some asbestos remediation. It has been returned to public display at the entrance to Steamtown.
what should've happened was to put it back in service like the other big boy it's much better off in action just like the other one that came out of North Platte and did a run through this one could do the same if properly restored that would be perfect compared to the one at the Midcontinent railway museum up in Green Bay WI That is currently rusting away badly enough to where it wouldn't even be feasible to restore it at all rumor also has it that they're going to scrap the locomotive on site that's going to be horrible and I'm hoping that it doesn't end up in the hands of the scrappers torch‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️
It is unlikely we will see another big boy return to operation. The amount of funding it would take would be huge. Keep in mind 4014 was restored by a billion dollar company.
Thinking about buying that locomotive from the museum they want $12.5 million for the locomotive Quick question would you all be mad if my company proceeded to transaction completed and I took it from the museum
Looks like they did a very good job restoring this engine, I wish they would put it under some sort of roof to better protect it from the elements.
Can’t just put roofs everywhere. It’s so big compared to the other equipment there. If done right it should hold up without a roof. Roofs can also trap moisture Which in the wet climate of PA can be counterproductive for the stability of the engine.
@@PereMarquette1223 It would be good if they had somewhere enclosed to stow the boiler jacket though, as was done with 4014.
@@ZeldaTheSwordsman 4014’s jacket in California was scrapped decades ago. The one it has now is all brand new.
@@PereMarquette1223Source?
@@ZeldaTheSwordsman the museum… and that UP would never reuse anything like that. 99.9 percent of the time UP will make something like that, never reuse the old material.
That's one huge engine
We were at Steamtown NHS two weeks ago. This train is mammoth. You really need to stand right next to it to see how large it is.
From the days when we could build something in this country and without computers.
Before anyone says anything regarding operation, no! 4012's restoration was only cosmetic, the eastern US is not a favorable place to run 4012 and Steamtown can't run it anywhere if they were to restore it to run again. 4012 will remain on display for the foreseeable future. Be grateful that we have an operational Big Boy at all.
Understandable. Really.
Yeah, realistically the only people who could run 4012 would be its original owners. And that's not likely.
You did say "operational" ?Doesn't that mean it can move under it's own power?
Why can't they operate it on the east coast......it is an articulated engine and can I have seen it's sister engine 4014 in Cheyanne Wy. yard coming out the shop on to the main line without any trouble.......yard turns are a lot sharper than any main lines on the east coast!!!!! Steamtown really miss the boat when U.P. restored 4014 didn't they? next you tell money was an issue.....
@@trenchantsometimes5149 Money certainly is an issue. I think it was 2 million to do 4014, but it may have been more.
Glad to see the "big boy" 4012 back to looking in a respectable condition, this was a much needed rebuild/ repaint restoration job.
Great show,#4012 is the only Big Boy I've ever seen, when I saw it she was in really bad shape,bravo on such a nice job making it look like new again !!
Beautiful job!
Would love to see Steamtown restore the 4012 to operation!!!!
09trainfan said it is "operational"
@@trenchantsometimes5149 Years ago there was talk of operating it on compressed air so it could move back and for a bit, but I don't know whatever happened to that idea.
4012 was among consideration for the Union Pacific to restore due to its great shape compared to its brothers, however they ended up choosing 4014 due to the tracks surrounding 4012 to likely not be in good enough shape to hold it.
Nice video! She’s back!
Yes
We are so blessed that we live in a world where a big boy does not always mean a very large hamburger!🍔🍟🥤😎
It's great to see the steam train return back to home state
what if they hooked up the engine to a series of fog machines, at least temporarily? Steam would be everywhere, just like the good ol’ days!
Or bring a smaller steam locomotive and hook it up to the whistle.
Great tour. Thanks for posting.
I wish 4014 visit 4012 someday.
Yep that would be overwhelmingly awesome.
UP won't bring 4014 this far east.
I’ve seen 4012 before, but it was when I was very young.
Steamtown only has ONE operating locomotive. The 0-6-0 Baldwin #26. They used to have the 3354, and 2317 operating. Now excursions are done with diesels.
They probably still use the diesels for moving equipment around when needed.
Would that this old girl were still running but fully understand the prohibitive expense of keeping her “afloat “. Thank you for the post.
We’re actually going to St Louis to the show there while 4014 is there. It’s a little drive from indianapolis it’s definitely doable. We had talked about going to visit Steamtown to see you. Is this the site in PA?
It looks like Big Boys brother.
I notice a chain guard on the mechanism on the front engine. Lubricator? 4014 doesn't have that. Chain is open. Maybe someone can explain.
4012 looks like 4014 when it is restored. But what's the diffrence between 4014 and 4012? Well, let me tell you. 4014 uses 3985's oil tender which means that 4014 now runs on oil. While 4012 still has its coal tender. Also, 4014 is running and 4012 is on display.
Ash pan is missing to.
@@andypettit5869 Yes, the ash pan is missing on 4014.
Was the 4012 the locomotive that derailed, and was in it's side back in the day?
@@andypettit5869 No. It was 4005.
they were all converted to oil at some point in the 1940's because of how much coal they used.
To be fair it never left…
Very well done! Anyway to store this locomotive indoors?
It would be nice to do that. It would be worth building a place for it.
nice
Did it get a new paint job?
Of course! Can't you tell?
Looks fully operational!, what is wrong with it?
It would need to be totally disassembled and rebuilt from the ground up to make it run again. It's what was done to 4014.
@@1940limited although 4012 was in better shape than 4014 before it was restored to operation.
@@EvilTurkeySlices Perhaps transporting 4012 across country was daunting plus it's the property of the US Government and who knows how much red tape would have been involved trying to get it. It's now cosmetically restored which I think is as far as it's going. I'm sure UP knows what they're doing. 4014 was chosen and is up and running despite years of naysayers convinced a Big Boy would never run again.
A new paint job hardly makes it operational. If you examine the locomotive closely you'll see it's anything but operational.
Will it come into service?...
Unfortunately, no. This was just a cosmetic restoration. The East coast rail system is not favorable to operate the Big Boy locomotives. That's why UP #4014's excursions don't come far East.
@@vandorenmediaworks are u sure bruh?
@@factssoup5056 what about that doesn’t sound true?
@@DerpyPossum hmmm
@@DerpyPossum we'll wait and see
Returns? Its always been there.
It was removed from public display to be cosmetically restored and to have some asbestos remediation. It has been returned to public display at the entrance to Steamtown.
what should've happened was to put it back in service like the other big boy it's much better off in action just like the other one that came out of North Platte and did a run through this one could do the same if properly restored that would be perfect compared to the one at the Midcontinent railway museum up in Green Bay WI That is currently rusting away badly enough to where it wouldn't even be feasible to restore it at all rumor also has it that they're going to scrap the locomotive on site that's going to be horrible and I'm hoping that it doesn't end up in the hands of the scrappers torch‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️
Better give her new inside parts and do excursions with her on sertain days
Nice job now get her under steam 🚂
not gonna happen
It’s too heavy for most of steamtowns tracks
MAGA-NIFICENT beautiful paintjob
Just put some coal and water in the tender and it looks good to go...
I hope this is NOT just a cosmetic restoration. 🤨
It is
It is unlikely we will see another big boy return to operation. The amount of funding it would take would be huge. Keep in mind 4014 was restored by a billion dollar company.
Looking good 4012, l like those dustcovers.
It is!
@@johnmichaels.1212 UP was the best outfit to restore one and now it's done. We should be happy for that.
Thinking about buying that locomotive from the museum they want $12.5 million for the locomotive
Quick question would you all be mad if my company proceeded to transaction completed and I took it from the museum
That's preposterous.