My dream bike is now complete: R&M + Pinion. Now, I just need to wake up and realize I can’t afford it. I rode a top-of-the-line R&M Super Delite back in 2021. Besides the breaks, which I thought could’ve been more aggressive, the bike was a perfect ride. It was like driving a top of the line Mercedes
Ok I'll sell you my super delite so I can afford the new homage. My age means I'll need the step through by next year. Only problem is that you'll need to come to Australia to collect it.
@@TaisToiRQ Sounds good to me. I’ll take it for a test ride and stay over at your place since I’m at it. Btw, love Australia. Was in Sydney right before the pandemic, early 2020. Awesome town.
Wow! Super excited to see inclusion of the Pinion MGU! The belt and shock cover looks kind of ugly and makes me wonder about simple tasks as adjusting or checking air pressure in the rear shock. Glad to see cadence as low as 55 rpm, as older riders like me are not spinning at 70 to 80 rpm!.
Shame this brand is so poorly served by dealers in the US. I want one, but no dealer near me in Scottsdale, Arizona. Bummer. With this type of investment you need dealer support. This is not an online relationship
Nice preview, Please work on the 'fully' automatic mode. Having a second (more aimed at 45km and hilly areas) options next to the enviolo automatiq would be great. Also for the nevo5 and some of the cargomodels. There is something nice about fully automatic mode that makes the enviolo automatiq just a different ride. if you can get close but with a 600% 'norma' gearbox' that would be a great step forward.
These bikes look amazing! But is the Superdelite now dead? You can still get a Superdelite but it’s still running the Bosch System 2. There is no Superdelite on the Bosch Smart System. It can’t be a dual battery issue because you can get a Homage4 with dual battery on the Bosch Smart System. And this will continue as mentioned in the video. Is the Superdelite, once the flagship of R&M, now just obsolete on old technology? If anyone has an update on this, please share.
I love the brand R&M and will get a bike in the next month but three things really annoy me: 1. Please do not enable adverts on your TH-cam videos, the video itself is an advert and it's not a good look to see some random companies video before yours. It won't help your videos reach and learn from the big boys. Apple, Google etc don't run other company ad's on there videos. 2. I look forward to the RX chip coming to the UK and I may end up paying for a subscription service for insurance etc. However it is UNFORGIVABLE that you would need to pay a subscription service to have the Alarm and Bike lock enabled/disabled. A R&M bike is a serious investment and paying to enable components you already own is not a good look. By all means charge money for GPS or other services but the basic lock and alarm should come as standard. Thanks and keep up the great work.
I noticed the Homage 5 Mgu appears not to have any bottle mounts on the down tube is there any reason for this as the Delite 5 Mgu has bottle mounts on the down tube
I'm assuming all 2025 Delite and Homages Pinion MGU and Bosch bikes have 45mm travel on the rear ! Is there a particular reason why you have reduced the travel so much ? As you are speccing the bike with a 120 mm fork !
I can’t remember which version of Delite mine is. I think 2 maybe. I’m really curious to try that Pinion combined system. I’m sure it’d be a very different and smoother experience to the Bosch CX and NuVinci N380 on my bike.
9:42 I will like to have that bike with the pinion mgu on that bike, its time to make all bikes with the pinion mgu on them. lets get the new riding experience across the board. I can't see myself riding anything less in 2024 and beyond.
Would it be possible to easily swap a normal Pinion MGU with a HS Pinion MGU on a Delite 5? W'd more need to be done apart from swapping the motors to make a normal Delite 5 to a Delite5 "S"version? Here I'm not asking about the registration and legal aspects of such a swap.
An S-pedelec is a motorbike and must therefore fulfil all legal requirements in your country. In addition, an operating licence must be obtained. As Riese & Müller does not carry out such conversions, we cannot provide any information on this.
@@rieseundmuellerGmbH As stated in my original question, I am not asking about the various governmental and legal requirements. I was merely asking whether a normal Pinion could be swapped for a "S" version without having to do any frame and/or electronic changes and modifications?
@@rieseundmuellerGmbH Thanks , Will I com. I live I Copenhagen, and think I will buy one, and maybe I don't need the Abs, but think the Pinion MGU are better than Rholoff + Bosch. ??
the superdelite had 1150 watt whereas the new elite only has 800 watt meaning shorter range of assistance is this correct ? . also will the scheme offering bike cover be available in the uk in the near future?
is it the case that there is now only one 800 watt battery where as previously the superdelite had circa 1150 watts on two batteries presumably meaning that the new version will have a more limited assistance range . also for those in the uk do you intend to offer bike insurance theft etc in the near future?
@@iskäpyöräilee .. Bosch isn't the only company with ABS (eg Shimano) and multiple or high capacity batteries absolutely are not a Bosch exclusive either.
@@iskäpyöräilee .. Pinion itself offers a wide range of batteries including a 48 V 20 AH, so it's clear that this is a modifiable setting within the firmware of their control system.
@@iskäpyöräilee .. Also the only reason I'm making these comments is because I was considering and in the process of purchasing a dual battery version of the Homage4. Even in Naples, Florida where the surrounding houses are many millions of dollars I found it odd that these high-end bikes were not being sold at all. However I do well and my new love is biking so what can I say. I'm also very pleased that they went with a Pinion option. I just need to be able to make certain that I have a long adequate range available to me as opposed to having carry around a second battery.
Why not start de mgu system on the nevo en charger? Instate for the delite5 and Homage5. The ebike crisis is not for the r&m management. It a pity for the many e bike lover with a small wallet..
@@harrymeese8889 There are a few more open questions i am guessing they are still finishing options and don't want to put anything on their website yet.
I Wana see pinion on sueprdelite and also don't cover rear shock because naked one look attractive. Also the upper battery bar is not good in new sueprdelite previous one was good. In new sueprdelite Pinion Mgu, Good And very large cockpit display and ABS is MUST.
Hi , i am William and today i am presenting a new addition to the list of components that is causing the deprecation of your entire ebike, when the company which makes it decides to “upgrade” it with the “new” one that will not fit in your “old” ebike frame (and no replacements parts will be available)! But hey do not worry.. through your perfectly fine 7000 euros ebike away for our “new” one from our “green ,eco friendly” company …… #NOT
Van de huidige Speed Pedelecs van R-M wordt wel gezegd. Het zijn gechipte e-bikes en komen wat snelheid betreft niet mee met de achterwiel motoren. Is dit met het prachtige Pinion MGU verleden tijd?
@@badabing8884 For us, appearance is more important, and I love the look of the Bosch motor. The difference with the Rohloff E14 you mentioned seems very minimal, and I don't think it would be noticeable. As it stands, it looks like a bucket has been placed in the middle :)
We can’t wait to try this bike out this wednesday at eurobike. We will be doing a youtube live video on our channel
My dream bike is now complete: R&M + Pinion. Now, I just need to wake up and realize I can’t afford it.
I rode a top-of-the-line R&M Super Delite back in 2021. Besides the breaks, which I thought could’ve been more aggressive, the bike was a perfect ride. It was like driving a top of the line Mercedes
Ok I'll sell you my super delite so I can afford the new homage. My age means I'll need the step through by next year. Only problem is that you'll need to come to Australia to collect it.
@@TaisToiRQ Sounds good to me. I’ll take it for a test ride and stay over at your place since I’m at it.
Btw, love Australia. Was in Sydney right before the pandemic, early 2020. Awesome town.
Wow! Super excited to see inclusion of the Pinion MGU! The belt and shock cover looks kind of ugly and makes me wonder about simple tasks as adjusting or checking air pressure in the rear shock. Glad to see cadence as low as 55 rpm, as older riders like me are not spinning at 70 to 80 rpm!.
Very beautiful, but I wish there were more colour options! This minimalist 2 colour option culture is very Germany but not very European!
I think they should follow mobile brand in that there should always be a black or very dark option.
Fantastic and exciting update with the Pinion MGU!
yes we can’t wait to test ride this at eurobike on wednesday - well will be doing a youtube live on this bike on our channel
Cannot wait until this debuts in the US!
And Canada
Dual battery option for extended range?
Shame this brand is so poorly served by dealers in the US. I want one, but no dealer near me in Scottsdale, Arizona. Bummer. With this type of investment you need dealer support. This is not an online relationship
Nice preview, Please work on the 'fully' automatic mode. Having a second (more aimed at 45km and hilly areas) options next to the enviolo automatiq would be great. Also for the nevo5 and some of the cargomodels. There is something nice about fully automatic mode that makes the enviolo automatiq just a different ride. if you can get close but with a 600% 'norma' gearbox' that would be a great step forward.
Will aftermarket performance chips be available for this new system? Not that I’d ever do that to my bike 😇😝
These bikes look amazing! But is the Superdelite now dead? You can still get a Superdelite but it’s still running the Bosch System 2. There is no Superdelite on the Bosch Smart System. It can’t be a dual battery issue because you can get a Homage4 with dual battery on the Bosch Smart System. And this will continue as mentioned in the video. Is the Superdelite, once the flagship of R&M, now just obsolete on old technology? If anyone has an update on this, please share.
Eurobike Trade Fair is right around the corner. Stay tuned :-)
@@rieseundmuellerGmbH Nothing on the SuperDelite was announced at Eurobike, correct?
Superdelite4 will be Smart System; one 750Wh battery and the 250Wh Powermore range extender
when will we be able to test ride and purchase in the US?
There is no date yet for the market launch in the USA
I love the brand R&M and will get a bike in the next month but three things really annoy me:
1. Please do not enable adverts on your TH-cam videos, the video itself is an advert and it's not a good look to see some random companies video before yours. It won't help your videos reach and learn from the big boys. Apple, Google etc don't run other company ad's on there videos.
2. I look forward to the RX chip coming to the UK and I may end up paying for a subscription service for insurance etc. However it is UNFORGIVABLE that you would need to pay a subscription service to have the Alarm and Bike lock enabled/disabled. A R&M bike is a serious investment and paying to enable components you already own is not a good look. By all means charge money for GPS or other services but the basic lock and alarm should come as standard.
Thanks and keep up the great work.
Frame lock and better chain bag yay! Imo much better than a separate lock when combined with the chain add-on.
I noticed the Homage 5 Mgu appears not to have any bottle mounts on the down tube is there any reason for this as the Delite 5 Mgu has bottle mounts on the down tube
In the serial version, the Homage5 also has a bottle mount
I'm assuming all 2025 Delite and Homages Pinion MGU and Bosch bikes have 45mm travel on the rear !
Is there a particular reason why you have reduced the travel so much ?
As you are speccing the bike with a 120 mm fork !
I can’t remember which version of Delite mine is. I think 2 maybe. I’m really curious to try that Pinion combined system. I’m sure it’d be a very different and smoother experience to the Bosch CX and NuVinci N380 on my bike.
Superb !
Is the rear carrier suitable for a child seat and is it MIK or MIK HD ?
The carrier has MIK HD profiles. It can take up to 27 kg and also child seats.
Finally a separate battery cover & redisgn of the chain case! I am over the moon!
9:42 I will like to have that bike with the pinion mgu on that bike, its time to make all bikes with the pinion mgu on them. lets get the new riding experience across the board. I can't see myself riding anything less in 2024 and beyond.
Well done. I hope one day you will be integrate this unit in cargo bikes to. I will sale my Load 75 and save for that one.
Would it be possible to easily swap a normal Pinion MGU with a HS Pinion MGU on a Delite 5? W'd more need to be done apart from swapping the motors to make a normal Delite 5 to a Delite5 "S"version? Here I'm not asking about the registration and legal aspects of such a swap.
An S-pedelec is a motorbike and must therefore fulfil all legal requirements in your country. In addition, an operating licence must be obtained.
As Riese & Müller does not carry out such conversions, we cannot provide any information on this.
@@rieseundmuellerGmbH As stated in my original question, I am not asking about the various governmental and legal requirements. I was merely asking whether a normal Pinion could be swapped for a "S" version without having to do any frame and/or electronic changes and modifications?
Those bikes would look great in British Racing Green...
Load 60 pinion when? 😊
We are also excited to see what the future holds
Perfetto!
When is Homange5 with Pinion coming to Denmark. Can Abs be purchased for this model.
The Homage5 can be ordered from August, also in Denmark. An ABS system for bikes with Pinion drive is not yet on the market
@@rieseundmuellerGmbH Thanks , Will I com. I live I Copenhagen, and think I will buy one, and maybe I don't need the Abs, but think the Pinion MGU are better than Rholoff + Bosch. ??
Wish there were an option for the Café-Lock on the Delite and Homage 4
You can see the cafe lock in the video.
Can we run without battery???
It is technically possible to ride without a battery. The motor assistance can also be switched off during the ride.
the superdelite had 1150 watt whereas the new elite only has 800 watt meaning shorter range of assistance is this correct ? . also will the scheme offering bike cover be available in the uk in the near future?
yes we think there will also be a suoerdelite 5 version, we will be doing a youtube live video on wednesday at eurobike
@@FullychargedUK Does that mean the superdelite pinion version was released on Eurobike?
is it the case that there is now only one 800 watt battery where as previously the superdelite had circa 1150 watts on two batteries presumably meaning that the new version will have a more limited assistance range . also for those in the uk do you intend to offer bike insurance theft etc in the near future?
We are continuously working on expanding our RX services but concrete information for the UK is not yet available.
Be nice if you could do this in Australia too. It would be a good reason for me to make a 3rd R&M purchase.
What's the ETA for USA buyers? Also, are ABS, Dual Battery and built-in Abus Bordo lock available?
ABS and DualBattery are Bosch E-bike system specific things so probably not compatible with Pinion's system.
@@iskäpyöräilee .. Bosch isn't the only company with ABS (eg Shimano) and multiple or high capacity batteries absolutely are not a Bosch exclusive either.
@@DJaquithFL Of course not, but currently Pinion doesn't have announced at least dual batteries. Some Stromer bikes seem to have ABS with Pinion.
@@iskäpyöräilee .. Pinion itself offers a wide range of batteries including a 48 V 20 AH, so it's clear that this is a modifiable setting within the firmware of their control system.
@@iskäpyöräilee .. Also the only reason I'm making these comments is because I was considering and in the process of purchasing a dual battery version of the Homage4. Even in Naples, Florida where the surrounding houses are many millions of dollars I found it odd that these high-end bikes were not being sold at all. However I do well and my new love is biking so what can I say. I'm also very pleased that they went with a Pinion option. I just need to be able to make certain that I have a long adequate range available to me as opposed to having carry around a second battery.
Is the dual battery version not in the plan?
Not in model year 2025. We'll see what the future brings
@@rieseundmuellerGmbHI'll be waiting
@@rieseundmuellerGmbH Can't I use the range expander(535wh) that is officially being offered by the pinion?
Shut up and take my money.
When will this be available in Australia?
Unfortunately the models will not be available in Australia in model year 2025
@@rieseundmuellerGmbH heartbroken but thank you for your reply.
When can it be ordered in Belgium?
The new model year begins in August, from which point the bikes can be ordered
9 commercials in a commercial for your new bike. Come on, stop it...
When would this be available in the US?
Unfortunately, the models will not be available in the USA until further notice
@@rieseundmuellerGmbH Rats!
Real beaute!
I assume this bike isn't coming to America? Would be a beast of a bike if it did
So far there is no launch date for America.
Komt er ook een dual-battery systeem?
We zullen zien wat de toekomst ons brengt
@@rieseundmuellerGmbH Yes, on the Superdelite version. See it in Eurobike, possibly.
Loved 🥰
Why not start de mgu system on the nevo en charger? Instate for the delite5 and Homage5. The ebike crisis is not for the r&m management. It a pity for the many e bike lover with a small wallet..
❤❤❤❤ it ‼️
Not on their website yet!
He talks about this only on website from aug.
@@scb2scb2 missed that bit, looks a great bike!
@@harrymeese8889 There are a few more open questions i am guessing they are still finishing options and don't want to put anything on their website yet.
This is going to be cha-ching. 🤑💶💶💶💶💶💶💶💶💶💶💶
I Wana see pinion on sueprdelite and also don't cover rear shock because naked one look attractive. Also the upper battery bar is not good in new sueprdelite previous one was good. In new sueprdelite Pinion Mgu, Good And very large cockpit display and ABS is MUST.
This will literally cost more than a car where I am 🤣
Pinion MGU th-cam.com/video/QtTJ8BaebN0/w-d-xo.html
Hi , i am William and today i am presenting a new addition to the list of components that is causing the deprecation of your entire ebike, when the company which makes it decides to “upgrade” it with the “new” one that will not fit in your “old” ebike frame (and no replacements parts will be available)! But hey do not worry.. through your perfectly fine 7000 euros ebike away for our “new” one from our “green ,eco friendly” company …… #NOT
bosch+rohloff is better
But Pinion has wider gear range at 600% plus it’s combined with the motor.
Van de huidige Speed Pedelecs van R-M wordt wel gezegd. Het zijn gechipte e-bikes en komen wat snelheid betreft niet mee met de achterwiel motoren. Is dit met het prachtige Pinion MGU verleden tijd?
@@badabing8884 For us, appearance is more important, and I love the look of the Bosch motor. The difference with the Rohloff E14 you mentioned seems very minimal, and I don't think it would be noticeable. As it stands, it looks like a bucket has been placed in the middle :)
I've been riding a super delite rohloff for the last 4 years, and yes it's been great, but why do you think it is better than pinion?
Fly to the moon 😂!