Brahms: Variations on a Theme by Haydn, Op.56b (Argerich and Freire)

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  • An exquisite set of variations. More than nearly anything else in Brahms’ piano oeuvre, the Haydn Variations (not actually based on a theme of H’s, as it turns out, but then misattribution was common before copyright become commonplace) are full of heartfelt warmth and generosity. Argerich and Freire’s deliver a wonderful performance: the voicing is precise, the rhythmic complexity handled deftly, the climaxes exuberant, the soft passages melting.
    The piece consists of a theme (unusual in featuring 2 prominent 5-bar long phrases), followed by 9 variations. As always, Brahms’ focus is on the bass line: the variations preserve the harmonic relationships and the structure of the theme, if not its melody, and take you through an extraordinary range of textures and emotions. Especially spectacular is the final variation, constructed as a passacaglia on a recurring five-measure ostinato derived from the bass supporting the theme, which features some glorious contrapuntal writing and exultant moments [13:49, 15:47] interspersed with tender passages [14:38]. Note the clever use of canonic imitation in the beginning of the passagaclia: the first four notes of Piano I have actually already appeared in the LH of Piano II, and the next four notes you hear from the LH in Piano I (B, C, Bb, A) are almost immediately repeated (transposed) in the RH of Piano I (E, F Eb, D), and then in the RH of Piano II (A, Bb, Ab, G).
    00:00 - Theme
    01:59 - Var. 1. A murmuring, gently exultant variation which begins by picking up on the last repeated notes of the theme.
    03:01 - Var. 2. A dramatic foray in the parallel minor, featuring one of Brahms’ favourite devices: layering triplet and duplet rhythm.
    03:58 - Var. 3. A delicate and painstakingly constructed contrapuntal episode. With the exception of the final variation, this one comes closes to preserving the melodic sense of the original theme.
    05:44 - Var. 4. Solemn, recitative-like, sometimes bleak.
    07:29 - Var. 5. A busy-scherzo-like variation which turns the repeated notes of the theme into an underlying texture and which is a natural pair with the next variation.
    08:22 - Var.6. A rich, rhythmic, sumptuous variation, featuring some of the most dramatic writing in the set [9:26].
    09:38 - Var.7. Tender and lyrical, with a lullaby-like rocking rhythm.
    12:24 - Var.8. In sharp contrast to Var.7, Var.8 is an eerily muted harmonyscape, with long winding lines and occasional glimpses of the original theme surfacing before being submerged again. Lots of imitative counterpoint used throughout.
    13:13 - Var.9 (finale). A gorgeous passacaglia.
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  • @spiderwebb222
    @spiderwebb222 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Also love that the applause kicks in at the end and you suddenly realise that was a live performance. Unreal

  • @spiderwebb222
    @spiderwebb222 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    No. 7 is one of the most beautiful musical passages in existence.

  • @herringsinthewood
    @herringsinthewood 2 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    Rest in peace Mr Freire.

  • @gerontius34
    @gerontius34 5 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    This is a magnificent performance by two titans of the piano. I cannot imagine any established duo piano team exceeding this.

    • @paulrevelli
      @paulrevelli 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I agree. I have Georg Solti and Murray Perahia's recording and I thought it was the benchmark. Not any more! This was fantastic.

  • @jackfletcher1000
    @jackfletcher1000 7 ปีที่แล้ว +168

    To all of you who pointed out my error in dismissing Brahms as a mediocre composer, you were right I was very wrong and some of the pieces that you recommended are now regularly listened to, thank you

    • @SpaghettiToaster
      @SpaghettiToaster 6 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      This is a great comment!

    • @danielhornby5581
      @danielhornby5581 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Schoenberg wrote about Brahms' ability as a progressive whilst looking backwards. No-one has bettered his skill in orchestration (although many are equal) and rightly takes his place as one of the 3 Bs.
      Ask the general public though and most will only have heard of Bach and Beethoven, a real shame given his mastery of all forms. Just a pity we didn't get an opera but then, Rinaldo is an epic cantata!
      My love for Brahms came as my piano teacher asked me to go out and buy his intermezzi and picked up his symphonies (Barenboim) and didn't look back.
      This particular piece I ignored for over 10 years. It was a stupid thing as it has one of the most beautiful themes I've heard, even if it's not Haydn (scholars can't prove this either way).
      Both this and op.56a are frontrunners in their respective genres, as this is a truly masterful set of variations.

    • @cufflink44
      @cufflink44 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Jack Fletcher I didn't see your original comment(s), but I'm glad you've come around to liking Brahms. I find him a great composer who connects with people emotionally as few have done.
      But dislike of Brahms among composers I love has always puzzled and troubled me. Benjamin Britten was notorious in his dismissal of Brahms; his putdowns could be scathing. Since I greatly admire both composers, it's hard for me to understand Britten's distaste, and I've wondered if it might have been something extra-musical that turned Britten off to Brahms.

    • @jackfletcher1000
      @jackfletcher1000 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@cufflink44 Try jealousy and you will be near the mark, some of Brittan,s music is awful and i really don,t understand his popularity.

    • @timothythorne9464
      @timothythorne9464 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I have heard people say Brahms is mediocre and uninspired, and incapable of evoking feeling. I have never understood this as Brahms' works are among the most inventive and innovative of any composer, and are passionate and full of sincere emotion. And this extends to his works in classical forms, like sonatas and theme and variations.

  • @petermerelis
    @petermerelis 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    it's so nice to be able to hear individual voices in passages that too often are rendered as a gloppy mess of sound

  • @humamghassib2685
    @humamghassib2685 6 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Sublime! One can "detect" some nuances here that one misses out in the orchestral version. Divine Brahms! Splendid Argerich and Freire!

    • @loribird7672
      @loribird7672 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Love love love this!!!!!! Absolutely just DIVINE

    • @regine5285
      @regine5285 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@loribird7672 Zgadzam się!!!

  • @calebhu6383
    @calebhu6383 26 วันที่ผ่านมา

    The passacaglia at the end is one of the most rhythmically advanced sections of music ever written up to that point.

  • @TheSteveBerlin
    @TheSteveBerlin 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Thank you. This is just gorgeous music. I love the orchestral version, and Brahms's piano version is superb. Opp. 56 a and b! The way old Johannes wanted it.

  • @davidrehak3539
    @davidrehak3539 6 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Johannes Brahms:Változatok egy Haydn témára (2 zongorás változat)
    Téma: Chorale St. Antoni. Andante 00:00
    1.variáció:Andante con moto (Poco più animato) 01:59
    2.variáció:Vivace (Più vivace) 03:01
    3.variáció: Con moto 03:58
    4.variáció: Andante (Andante con moto) 05:44
    5.variáció: Poco presto (Vivace) 07:29
    6.variáció: Vivace 08:22
    7.variáció: Grazioso 09:38
    8.variáció: Poco presto (Presto non troppo) 12:24
    Finálé:Andante 13:13
    Martha Argerich és Nelson Freire-zongora

  • @jiseonglee1645
    @jiseonglee1645 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Thank you very much for your endeavor to align the score so that we can appreciate the elegant structure of this wonderful piece more closely.

  • @MrGer2295
    @MrGer2295 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Beautiful ! Merry Christmas !

  • @johankrafft7295
    @johankrafft7295 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Elegant, well performed. Music is divine.

  • @RicAbapo
    @RicAbapo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    It sounds so Christmasy 🎄

  • @beeshin9945
    @beeshin9945 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    thanks for sharing this wonderful piece. Brahms was a very creative person

  • @aceventura2237
    @aceventura2237 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    What I like about these piano arrangements is I can hear the way I would want it arranged

    • @AndrewKierszenbaum
      @AndrewKierszenbaum 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      lol is this a diss? what do you mean? i’m also trying to compose for two piano and it’s so hard

    • @aceventura2237
      @aceventura2237 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@AndrewKierszenbaum oh oops not clear enough I meant in any form quartet, symphony. This is good I have it saved, I meant I hear sections i prefer in versions of a song

    • @urbex_coasters
      @urbex_coasters 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@aceventura2237This is actually the original. The orchestral version is a transcription of this. It is Brahms's own transcription so there aren't the typical markings you'd expect for a transcription in the score (ie "transcribed for orchestra"/"arranged by") like you see in a piece like say, Pictures at an Exhibition (the nost common versions are by Stokowski and Ravel, but countless composers have transcribed it).

  • @regine5285
    @regine5285 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Cudowne!!! Piękne!

  • @Schlectowski
    @Schlectowski 6 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    One possibility is that the theme originates from Ignace Joseph Pleyel a pupil of Hayden. He founded a piano building business which later supplied Chopin.

  • @carmina2566
    @carmina2566 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    magnifique

  • @JonathanKofi
    @JonathanKofi 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    There's an orchestrated version of this too.. Worth checking out!

    • @philip.stigaard
      @philip.stigaard 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I think the original was the version from orchestra and then Brahms also transcribed it to two pianos. It’s definitely worth it to listen to it

  • @davecollins2956
    @davecollins2956 7 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    You can certainly see where Focus got their Hamburger Concerto made!

    • @AndreJorgeOliveira1
      @AndreJorgeOliveira1 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Not made, but it was inspired by this piece. And it was called Hamburger concerto because of it - Hamburg is Brahms city! Focus guys know a lot about classical music. They actually used it many other times. Moving Waves has the long suite on the B side of the LP inspired by Bartok's Concerto for Orchestra.

    • @timothythorne9464
      @timothythorne9464 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I'll have this concerto with two all beef patties, special sauce, lettuce, cheese, pickles, onions on a Sesame Street bun, por favor.

    • @rogerhennie8939
      @rogerhennie8939 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      If Brahms could do his variations on a theme by Haydn, why shouldn't Focus do their variations on Brahms' variations on Haydn.....

  • @TimondeNood
    @TimondeNood 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    That finale :o

  • @piano1500
    @piano1500 8 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Do you know of any place to get a detailed analysis of these variations and also the Handel variations?

    • @SpaghettiToaster
      @SpaghettiToaster 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Try searching google scholar!

    • @AnyOldMusic
      @AnyOldMusic 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Alan Belkin presents a concise analysis of the Handel variation in his book “Musical Composition”, while discussing Variation Form (Chapter 10). ... if you’re still searching, 5-years on!?

  • @penzio7
    @penzio7 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    R.I.P Nelson Freire

  • @guyteston811
    @guyteston811 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    where is the video of this record ????

  • @steffen5121
    @steffen5121 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The finale is best

  • @BenEmberley
    @BenEmberley ปีที่แล้ว

    2:00 to 3:01 is my favourite bit

  • @barney6888
    @barney6888 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    that 8th variation...

  • @GerGV
    @GerGV 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    There is an ad after each variation... not worth watching.

  • @user-kk3kt5lq5p
    @user-kk3kt5lq5p 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    3:01 5:44 7:29 9:38 13:13

  • @alinerjaku
    @alinerjaku ปีที่แล้ว

    ❤️

  • @edwardloh1855
    @edwardloh1855 7 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Who played the first piano?

    • @AndreJorgeOliveira1
      @AndreJorgeOliveira1 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Freire, I am almost sure.

    • @sfd373
      @sfd373 7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Edward Loh I agree. Second piano has more staccato attack and spontaneity, first piano is more lyrical and measured.

    • @EmilianoManna
      @EmilianoManna 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Martha usually plays 2nd piano in his duo repertoire

    • @kreisleriana9624
      @kreisleriana9624 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      No, Martha always played first piano in this particular piece.

    • @dedikandrej
      @dedikandrej 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Argerich 1st Freire 2nd
      I checked the original recording cover (2009 @Salzburg) which contains the Programme as well.
      For each piece the order of names are attributed to order of parts, here it’s Argerich Freire (and for Schubert it’s presented as Freire Argerich)

  • @cilabanfi3335
    @cilabanfi3335 ปีที่แล้ว

    🥰❤️

  • @vyacheslavmorgunov9357
    @vyacheslavmorgunov9357 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Not the parallel but the same-name (or so, I don't know the English therminology) minor! 2nd var

  • @yuchanbot
    @yuchanbot 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    holy shit the passacaglia...

  • @ridelhouse
    @ridelhouse 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    5:44

  • @justinzlabys5260
    @justinzlabys5260 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    9:38

  • @Tristan-zt8tw
    @Tristan-zt8tw ปีที่แล้ว

    Who composed the original theme then?

  • @mia35545
    @mia35545 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    sfasamenti di metrica

  • @danielpicha630
    @danielpicha630 ปีที่แล้ว

    What opus is this from Haydn?

    • @themobiusfunction
      @themobiusfunction 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Read the description. It's not actually from Haydn.

  • @ravelian
    @ravelian 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    the very beginning sounds like k331

  • @Hajnikovmuz
    @Hajnikovmuz 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    who are the performers, please?

    • @samuelmaso98
      @samuelmaso98 8 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Argerich and Freire.

  • @sanghoonlee5171
    @sanghoonlee5171 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    13:14

  • @prestonlust5456
    @prestonlust5456 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thirty years ago, I had the good fortune to meet Brahms. After meeting him, his music makes a lot more sense to me. Truly an exceptional man - very kind and gracious. Free the Falun Gong!

    • @jockmoron
      @jockmoron 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Hmmm??? Brahms died in 1897.

    • @abelpalmer552
      @abelpalmer552 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah he died in 1897 and was famous for being neither kind nor gracious....but nice try

    • @ryankennedy3109
      @ryankennedy3109 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@abelpalmer552 I'm guessing it's a joke but I don't know enough about Falun Gong to get it...

  • @Ysy85263
    @Ysy85263 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    변주곡 형태의 세도막형식

  • @jeffreyemge5435
    @jeffreyemge5435 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    01'03"

  • @cerritelliinternationalmus5558
    @cerritelliinternationalmus5558 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Tempi troppo snelli... Comunque stratosferici!!

  • @brunocoliveira89
    @brunocoliveira89 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Andante con moto = fast as fuck!

    • @Finger112
      @Finger112 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      more like Allegretto con moto! That variation was played way too quickly.

  • @DaninMaine
    @DaninMaine 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Brahms was such a glorious weirdo!

  • @cilabanfi3335
    @cilabanfi3335 ปีที่แล้ว

    4-8-igkarácsonyi mézest sütöttem...most pihenem ki magam.....

  • @nickpapworth72
    @nickpapworth72 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    You sound very knowledgeable, as I'm sure you are, but it seems unlikely that Brahms would have called them Variations on a Theme by Haydn if it was someone else's theme or even an original one. And why 'as it turns out'? Could you or your source possibly be wrong?

    • @AshishXiangyiKumar
      @AshishXiangyiKumar  8 ปีที่แล้ว +33

      There's a huge amount of research that has been done on this subject: a simple google search will suffice to unearth many of the relevant papers. (There's a reason why most people know this set of variations by the name "Variations on the St. Antoni Chorale", rather than as Variations on a Theme by Haydn.)
      Brahms didn't know it was not a theme by Haydn: at the time he obtained the score (a divertimento whose second movement was called a "Chorale St. Antoni"), it contained an attribution to Haydn. It was common for publishers to attribute obscure works to better-known composers to increase sales.

  • @yaakovrotil8951
    @yaakovrotil8951 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Cela ne m'étonne pas de Martha Argeritch: tout en force, rien en nuance... C'est ainsi que l'on "exécute" une belle oeuvre...

    • @romainlabaye
      @romainlabaye 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Cette oeuvre adaptée pour deux pianos se joue comme ça. Ecoutez la version de Joe Zawinul et Friedrich Gulda, c'est pareil. Au passage, il y a bel et bien des nuances. Encore faudrait-il que vous ayez dépassé les 2 minutes...