Is The Circle Of Fifths Useless? (Piano Lesson)

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    Once you start learning and studying music a little bit you're bound to come across the Circle of 5ths.
    It sounds so official and important, but WHY does it exist.
    I'm here to tell you what it is ... BUT it will be up to YOU to decide whether you think it's something that can be useful for you.
    Here is a breakdown of the lesson:
    Why use the circle: 0:13
    How to use the circle: 0:48
    Moving through the sharps: 1:31
    Moving through the flats: 2:16
    My final thoughts: 3:44
    The Circle is great at showing patterns which helps make it easier to learn and remember.
    Let us know if you like to use the circle or if you think it's overrated!
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  • @tristanbach4421
    @tristanbach4421 4 ปีที่แล้ว +66

    I think the Circle of Fifths is interesting (Coltrane's "Giant Steps," for example), and maybe useful to beginners or as a quick-reference guide. However, once a musician becomes very familiar with the major/minor keys, I don't see much practical use.
    Also, a _slightly_ quicker way of determining a key's relative major/minor is by counting up/down three semitones.
    e.g., if you're in C _Major_ , simply count *_DOWN_* 3 semitones to find that A Minor is its relative key. If you're in the key of D _Minor_ , simply count *_UP_* 3 semitones to find that F Major is its relative major key.
    Great video! I appreciate you, and so many others do, too! :)

  • @michaelwagner6995
    @michaelwagner6995 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    For absolute beginners: From the number of signs, you can not only see how many # or b the corresponding scale has, but also which black keys are. Example: G maj has 1 # and it is on the F line so the G maj scale has F #. I hope it's fairly understandable
    because my english is not very good.

  • @andraepalmer
    @andraepalmer 4 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I love your explanation. I use the circle of fifths to practice chords. Playing the chords with a metronome helped me learn how to play all basic chords in all keys.

  • @robertdawson4546
    @robertdawson4546 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Great job!!! The Circle of 5ths/4ths is useful in so many ways: understanding chord progressions, transposing music, and understanding many aspects of music theory. Thanks for reducing the intimidation of such a useful tool.

  • @Alexagrigorieff
    @Alexagrigorieff 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    These relationships are very easy to memorize.
    Two sharps move the key the whole tone up (two flats - whole tone down)
    Three sharps move the key *one and a half* tone (three halftones) *down* (three flats - up).
    Four sharps - same as two times two sharps, two whole tones up.
    Five sharps move the key a halftone *down*.
    Six sharps or flats move the key by a tritone (six halftones).
    Seven sharps move the key a halftone *up*.

    • @hugofuster7059
      @hugofuster7059 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah, many ways to read the same keys map we call "Circle of 5ths/4ths", and this you've shared is a good one new to me.
      Thanks, Alexa!!

  • @mariopaolucci3522
    @mariopaolucci3522 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    It’s really useful for practicing resolution and perfect cadences (V resolving to I)in dominant chords. For example you could start playing D, make it dominant 7 which resolves to G, then make that dominant 7 which will resolve to C, then again going to F etc etc. This kind of exercise is super helpful for getting comfortable with resolutions and it’s found everywhere in pop music and also useful for key changes. Also, taken any interval, the opposite will always be the remainder of 9. So a 5th backward is a 4th, a 3rd backward is a 6th etc etc

    • @PianoteOfficial
      @PianoteOfficial  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Right on! Thanks for sharing this! :)

  • @pamsimpson6548
    @pamsimpson6548 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Right now, I am practicing country piano walk ups and walk downs around the circle of fifths (and fourths). It has broadened my understanding of how keys are connected to each other and my ability to quickly know which sharps/flats I need to play in each key. I was totally lost trying to play around the circle until I began to see a pattern of how the keys were connected.

  • @paulpulati9613
    @paulpulati9613 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    For me, it makes more sense to call it the Circle of Keys to eliminate the confusion of fourths and fifths, and also to construct the circle using degrees of the scale rather than semi-tones [half steps], which helps to learn and understand the major scale. It's probably most used by musicians who read notation, but it can be very useful for working through chord progressions around the circle, either direction, to learn various chord progressions and getting familiar with ALL the chords, as well as simply understanding how keys work. Perhaps this is most useful for chordal instruments, although musicians who play single-note instruments should learn about chords.

  • @reaktiv1408
    @reaktiv1408 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Yes very useful for simple composing. Moving from keys related to each other on different part of a song, some adjacent, some far away. I like the circle of fifths as a beginner composer!

  • @bratyma
    @bratyma 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Some people were born with a gift, but you were born one! Thanks for doing what you do.

  • @deliusmyth5063
    @deliusmyth5063 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You can also use the circle to see the notes of each scale. So in C, for example, you take a step back (to F) and 5 steps forward (the rest of the notes).

  • @dawmix
    @dawmix 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Wow. I can’t believe you challenged the Circle of Fifths! I know it as a most practical view of the relationship between keys along with the accidents (sharps and flats). Having said that, I am an intermediate piano student and it has yet to come alive on the keyboard for me and your example is quite helpful.
    For the record a most useful method for me so far is using note numbers as this flattens keys. A 1-3-5 is a 1-3-5 major chord in any key.
    Thank you as always. I look forward to your videos and am happy with you as a piano guide. Your energy is wonderful.

    • @PianoteOfficial
      @PianoteOfficial  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you for watching! :) I'm so glad you find my videos helpful! Let me know if you have any questions with your practicing down the road. :)

  • @ortiz717
    @ortiz717 4 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Mind blown! That was the simplest explanation of the Circle of Fifths! And I have been playing piano for over 30 years!

    • @As-tray
      @As-tray 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Well maybe it's simple for you because you've been playing for over 30 years lol

    • @debdebwwjd
      @debdebwwjd 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@As-tray hehe.I've been playing 17 years and I still got confused. Got it after rewinding a few times. Circle of 5ths has always done my head in.
      🤣🤣🤣

    • @ping3488
      @ping3488 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Not everybody has 30 years' experience playing piano....but what bugs me is... why are still watching beginners tutorials channels..!

    • @ortiz717
      @ortiz717 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I started playing piano when I was 8 and still play, by no means in any professional or classical way. I took music theory in high school but still trip up on the circle of fifths. This was very helpful for me and how to add it to my practicing.

    • @debdebwwjd
      @debdebwwjd 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ping3488 because she does a lot of work on chords and improvisation which, in my experience of piano teachers, a lot of teachers can't or won't teach this. She's taught me more about improvisation in the last month than any piano teacher I've been to

  • @gemiado
    @gemiado 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It's certainly useful for me. I always come back to the circle to refresh music theory. So much things in the circle, 5th, 4th relationship, major and relative minors, key signatures amd black keys, also explains the chords with those black keys in each key.

  • @TheSIGHTREADINGProject
    @TheSIGHTREADINGProject 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Thank you! I’d forgotten about it being 4ths after the ‘twilight zone’. I haven’t ever used it for anything. For music theory I knew the order of sharps and flats but I wasn’t consciously thinking if it as the ‘circle’. I had a mnemonic

  • @fatunga1
    @fatunga1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Yes you can memorize that the key of G has an f#. Or you can remember that when you move to next key, you raise its seventh. From C to G, raise the f; go on to D, raise the c; and so on...

    • @nahblue
      @nahblue 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You follow the circle of fifths there too :) The first sharped note is F that becomes F#. Then follow the circle of fifths **after F** to see the rest and in which order they are sharped (C, G, D, A, E)
      For flats it starts with B which you can see either as Bb, Eb, Ab, Db, Gb in the circle, or you look at B, E, A, D, G which are also in order.

  • @johnsexton8082
    @johnsexton8082 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Coming from a mix DJ background you can use the circle of fifths or the simplified camolot wheel, together with song keys, to do something called harmonic mixing. Moving clockwise will build energy while counter clockwise will reduce energy. It can also help with learning the ordering of sharps/flats on music notation. The camolot wheel basically is the exact same as the circle of fifths but uses numbers 1-12 like a clock face and A/B for major/minor. I wonder, would making key changes in a song do a similar thing?

  • @bradleykurkowski4835
    @bradleykurkowski4835 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You could also say for the flat side, instead of progressing up the piano in fourths, to descend the piano in fifths to find the next note.

  • @dstaedeli
    @dstaedeli 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I use it all the time in my head to know what b‘s or #‘s I have to play in a certain key. In German we have a sentence we memorize to remember de circle

  • @BrianWhitmerMusic
    @BrianWhitmerMusic 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I’ve been playing for decades and don’t think I’ve ever used the circle. I suspect, however, that it helped me make sense of all the key signatures back in my early days, and now I take that knowledge for granted without associating it with the circle.

    • @silenthumblecalf8550
      @silenthumblecalf8550 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Well you have been using the circle of fifths because every progression uses it

    • @BrianWhitmerMusic
      @BrianWhitmerMusic 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      There's a difference between using something intentionally and using it because it's an underlying foundation. I don't think about the alphabet when I read, for example, even though I'm clearly using it. That's the point I was making about the circle of fifths.

  • @SanelKeys
    @SanelKeys 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Well, It's starting point to create harmony, and understand harmony.

  • @angelanowak5448
    @angelanowak5448 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Brilliant. So simple- unreal… thank you!❤❤❤

  • @dsanj4745
    @dsanj4745 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The Circle of Fifths/Fourths actually has a great many uses but I'll mention just one. It is said that the most powerful movement in all of Western music is from the dominant to the tonic (V - I). Going counterclockwise on the Circle displays the sequence for this movement. The 2nd most powerful movement is from the subdominant to the tonic (IV - I). Going clockwise displays the sequence.

  • @Woodyaktx
    @Woodyaktx 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I use the circle of 5ths written on a blank CD (so I can spin it to what I want on top (the I chord)). I then wrote IV I V ii vi iii vii on the CD case above. With C being the one A (vi) is at 90 degrees on the dial to the right and Eb (bIII) is 90 degrees on the left. Ab (bVI) is below Eb and Bb (bVII) is above Eb. So I can see all the possibilities in a moment when I look at the Circle of 5ths dial. If the song is in Am then I quickly note that the Major chords associated with Am are the Eb Ab and Bb. Also I can see what chord can be substituted so D (ii) G (V) C (I) can be seen as D (ii) then (following the circle of 5ths to G) the opposite of G is Db (so use Db instead of G) then the opposite of Gb is C. Following the Circle of 5ths Db to Gb but use the C 180 degrees across on the circle of 5ths.

    • @PianoteOfficial
      @PianoteOfficial  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ooh, I really like that idea! Very creative! Thanks for sharing this. :)

    • @Woodyaktx
      @Woodyaktx 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@PianoteOfficial The ideas came from one of Rosa Suen's Circle of Fifths books.

    • @Woodyaktx
      @Woodyaktx 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@PianoteOfficial I meant to write that if the I chord is minor (Cm) then the Major chords associated with Cm are the Eb Ab and Bb on the left side of the dial.

  • @Oaktreealley
    @Oaktreealley 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I’ve used it for reference when transposing music.

  • @bingo1232
    @bingo1232 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Here is the mark of a good teacher (as Lisa demonstrates here)….bring the student to the point (the "moment of decision") where they decide what's important about the material (and the instruction). A good teacher (as wonderfully demonstrated here) is to herp us to find the learning in ourselves and then reveal it (externalize it) Playing the piano is nothing short of an exercise in enlightenment. Educate = to draw forth. Have fun!!!.

  • @Jisnuehenemdjdj
    @Jisnuehenemdjdj 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It's always useful for beginners and I've learnt it too thanks for making this video Lisa

  • @lesliew453
    @lesliew453 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you. I thought I understood the Circle 5ths, but I learned something. In addition, it might be worth nothing that the circle also defines the most common chord progressions (1, 4, 5 ,1 for example) . That's really helpful for knowing what sounds good together and how to smoothly transition between chords.

    • @nahblue
      @nahblue 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @omegagon The C major scale has 7 diatonic chords of it own (those chords built from only notes of the scale).
      On the circle of fifths, we see all the chords in C like this: The major chords are C and the note names on either side of C. That means that F, C, G are the major chords in the key of C.
      After those 3, clockwise, come the roots three minor chords in the key of C. So after F, C, G we see D, A, E on the circle. This means that Dm, Am, Em are the minor chords in the key of C. Last after those 3 is B, and we have B diminished as the 7th and last chord diatonic to the key.
      This works for all the keys in the circle. For example in the key of F, the major chords are Bb, F, C and minor are Gm, Dm, Am :)
      One can see this in interactive circle of fifth sites like this too. randscullard.com/CircleOfFifths/ Click F for example to see what it says.

  • @mysterybug1
    @mysterybug1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’m somewhere between a beginner and intermediate piano student. I love learning the structure of key’s and chords and their relationships. I prefer learning the different keys and chords by working out their tonal relationships rather than memorizing them. I love the mathematical aspect of it. But, what drew me back to piano was learning to improvise, to follow the beauty of sound wherever it led me. That’s one of the things I enjoy so much about your videos. No need to wait, we can make beautiful music with simple chords and voice exploration.

    • @sandralorenz630
      @sandralorenz630 ปีที่แล้ว

      same here i found this was much easier to know the chord abs relatives minors instead of memorizan like timetables

  • @ajayc3991
    @ajayc3991 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I use this for transposing and improv mainly. I probably should have all the diatonic chords, in all keys, memorized by now, but sometimes the guitarist wants to wants to capo either to a more obscure key or the chord chart was composed in a more obscure key originally and he wants to capo it back. This is almost always a last minute decision. I'm a visual person so having a diagram works for me.

  • @VClassBeatz
    @VClassBeatz 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very confusing but got a better understand once you explained it. Thanks so much.

  • @WoodrowCall
    @WoodrowCall 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm a total newb at this theory stuff but I've been fascinated by the Circle of Fifths for several months now. Every time I watch a new video about it I pick up something different. I will make one observation here, though, because this was something that opened up a lot of it for me.
    The reason the key of G has an F# is not "just because it does". It has an F# because the G major scale contains one sharp - F#. The CoF starts at C because the C major scale has no sharps or flats - i.e. all white notes for us newbs. As I understand it, the major scale pattern for all major scales no matter where you start is whole-whole-half-whole-whole-whole-half. When you move up to the 5th (technically the "perfect 5th") from C, which is G, and start there with the whole-whole-half-whole-whole-whole-half pattern, one sharp - F# - emerges. Continuing that pattern around the circle to the right and a new # is added each time, until you get to the goofy stuff at the bottom when you run out of black keys. Then you either start taking them away but expressing them as flats, or you go back to the beginning - C - and work to the left, which can be done "forward" in 4ths as the video explains, or "backwards" if you stay with the 5th but count 7 semitones to the left.

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    @southsidesavage8849 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

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  • @vlaseansmithen3305
    @vlaseansmithen3305 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What a nice video! And i liked how the thumnail features the piano books

  • @zuquinharuf6030
    @zuquinharuf6030 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Pianista explica muito bem e é muito linda

  • @sorry11303
    @sorry11303 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

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  • @johanneshert9237
    @johanneshert9237 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very Useful

  • @elgrogg
    @elgrogg 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You completely missed out the best and most useful thing about the Circle! That whatever key you choose, it is surrounded on the circle by the other 5 chords that are in that particular key. Very useful for creating chord progressions

    • @Carminielloz
      @Carminielloz 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Can you give an example please ?

  • @mrmaison4924
    @mrmaison4924 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm 2 years into my journey of learning how to play the keyboard/piano and I'm so glad I found lessons on the circle of fifths early on. After learning my musical alphabets, learning the circle of fifths blew my mind as it opened up the keyboard for me and brought me beyond muscle memory learning to see how it's all relevant and it's about traveling through "colors" (speaking from a visual artist point of view). I'm a new subscriber here since last week. Thanks for the awesome, to the point lessons!

    • @PianoteOfficial
      @PianoteOfficial  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      So happy for you! Thanks for watching! :)

  • @RamMusicStudios
    @RamMusicStudios 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hello Ma'am my name is Ramgopal and I am 17 year old from India aspiring to be a Musician. I know five instruments all of which are self taught.
    I just want to say your videos are amazing!!!!! I mean seriously superb. Pretty sure you get this a lot! But I just wanna say it!!!! It has helped me write songs! And the way you explain it!!! Nothing is more easily understandable than this!!!! Thank you so much for this amazing channel!, You really do help kids like me have a huge growth in music! Thank you so much !!!!!
    Regards
    Ramgopal

    • @PianoteOfficial
      @PianoteOfficial  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hello Ramgopal!
      Thank you so much for your kind words! I think it is so cool that I can share music with people from all around the world! Thank you so much for sharing! :)

    • @RamMusicStudios
      @RamMusicStudios 4 ปีที่แล้ว

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  • @pmazie
    @pmazie 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wow there is soo much more to the circle of 5ths! The order of sharps and flats on sheet music can be found on the circle for sharps start at F (for first as a memory aid)and go to the right F C G D A E B the order of flats start at F and go left its Bb Eb Ab Db Gb Cb Fb You can transpose music from one key to another using it.
    move around the circle the same number of places as the key of the song is in to the key you want to transpose too. C

  • @Juanita_RoCa
    @Juanita_RoCa 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I’m trying to absorb as much as I can possibly fit in my brain! Thank you!

  • @paulcastro352
    @paulcastro352 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks again, you have the ability to explain complex musical theory in a very simple form.

  • @silenthumblecalf8550
    @silenthumblecalf8550 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    From I started playing the piano I have been using the circle of fifths and it is very helpful all of you guys most try it it tells alot

  • @michaelanthony9068
    @michaelanthony9068 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It’s super easy to visualize this on a guitar or bass neck.

  • @richardgreene4725
    @richardgreene4725 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Oh my goodness.. Yes! Yes! Yes! How wonderful is the "Circle Of Fifths" How I wish that I had discovered it earlier in my musical endeavours, music theory would have been so much easier to understand. The Two things which I wish I had first embarked on learning, would have given me a much better grounding. 1: Learn to read musical notation 2: Understand the circle of fifths.
    Both of which I am currently spending some time doing.

  • @geoffreyhoney5983
    @geoffreyhoney5983 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yeah, the circle is great because it tells you what chords go well together in that key and what will sound good together as well as other stuff

  • @scottmccampbell72
    @scottmccampbell72 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    It's a fun way to practice scales or other little things you're working on, playing them in fourths sounds good and makes it not boring, so just go around counter-clockwise. I used to do that with guitar scales.

  • @NikosAravanis
    @NikosAravanis 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you,
    definitely useful information and good delivery.

  • @guillermosanchez9941
    @guillermosanchez9941 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I really don`t know maybe help to learn all the keys ,in this case is usefull because learn the scales is always important.finally I think it helps

  • @ProfeARios
    @ProfeARios 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great lesson!!! Thank you so much for sharing!!!

  • @nitindubeymusic
    @nitindubeymusic 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great video.
    Also, clockwise motion depicts Plagal cadences and anticlockwise Authentic cadences.

  • @rachitarora7649
    @rachitarora7649 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    **Important Question**
    PLEASE RESPOND
    Hi Lisa,
    My question is two part
    A) I am just about to buy a digital piano for myself and was thinking if your course also involves specific guidance for those taking piano exams(ABRSM/Trinity etc)
    B) I was keen on going for the annual subscription. Do you deliver your material to India as well?
    I've been following your channel for quite sometime now and I love your videos so many thanks for that. :D

    • @PianoteOfficial
      @PianoteOfficial  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hello Rachit! :) I'll answer in two parts as well!
      A) We don't focus on Piano exams specifically, but we can show you some other information about Jazz, Pop and many other genres of music as well as some classical exercises!
      B) We deliver our content all over the world! Through Wi-Fi, anything is possible! :)

  • @robbychen3904
    @robbychen3904 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have just learnt the circle of fourths/fifths by this great video. Guess if I am a kid or an adult?

  • @carolmurphy4627
    @carolmurphy4627 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I learned all my music theory in the 1970s, and the circle of fifths was never taught to me. I had to just memorise them, and learn them one by one. I suspect this may be why I still have some problems even today, despite having my theory exams and a diploma under my belt. If you learn something 'the hard way', it remains difficult to dredge it out of your head when it's needed. But I did pick up some quick(er) tips along the way, which thankfully I can now use if I need to.

  • @gavino681
    @gavino681 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    If you look at the C major scale, the last two notes are semitones (B&C). So if someone ever forgets what key G major starts in, just take the first note of that major key and go back a semitone (F#). Voilà

  • @jarrodnanson3573
    @jarrodnanson3573 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Its a good way to learn the key signatures when you are starting out learning music theory then after reading music a while it just becomes embedded.

  • @kimgalea6529
    @kimgalea6529 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I LOVE the way you teach!! You have a soft voice but you are giving important information I was wondering, I’m self taught at playing the piano, and I really struggle...is there any way I can reteach myself the right way to play?

  • @lifeveteran79
    @lifeveteran79 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    wow that was an awesome way of seeing it explained

  • @peterf90
    @peterf90 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I use it often but I’ve memorized it and mainly use it for key signatures and finding relative minor.

  • @dewiyuliani3024
    @dewiyuliani3024 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    finally, I can understand. thank you

  • @suganprasanna
    @suganprasanna 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yes I enjoyed. Hope it's very useful for beginners.
    From India.

  • @lindamcdermott2205
    @lindamcdermott2205 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Need it to pass tests and to think where you are changing keys..it has a practical application when you learn it on the keyboard by 5s.

  • @Robin_S78
    @Robin_S78 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Triple thumbs up! Struggling for years to understand the logic behind this.

  • @hrushikeshgurav15
    @hrushikeshgurav15 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hiii yours notes introduction is very very nice I like it 🙏🙏🙏🙏👌👌👌👍👍👍

  • @Albtraum-sp5yc
    @Albtraum-sp5yc 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    instead of going a 4th up for the flats u could also do everything normal like the sharps but istead of going a fifth higher you go lower

  • @classixdrummer
    @classixdrummer 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The circle keeps me from rhyming off, “whole step, whole step, half step, whole step, whole step, whole step, half step.” So it serves some use.I guess. As a drummer it actually doesn’t come up much. 😉

  • @sheldonsinclair5254
    @sheldonsinclair5254 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love your channel!!! Very informative and insightful!!! Keep up the good work...Any videos of you performing or playing in a band etc?

  • @jamesharrison6871
    @jamesharrison6871 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Would love if you could do a video on "graveyard symphony" by jim johnston. Seems like majority of it could be simple octaves.

  • @88keyz
    @88keyz 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very helpful

  • @lb6034
    @lb6034 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Perhaps I am too ignorant to know better, but isn’t the reason the key of G has an fsharp is due to the way a major scale is constructed with whole step, whole step, half step? Same with the key of F? That’s how you get B flat? Just curious

    • @PianoteOfficial
      @PianoteOfficial  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      You are right in saying that yes. You can build a major scale using the whole steps and the half step approach. But you can also use the Circle of 5th's to build a major scale. It's quite cool how you can use 2 different ways to get the same result! :)

    • @WoodrowCall
      @WoodrowCall 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, this is how I had to process it in my mind in order to make basic sense of things. Do the "whole step..." pattern starting on any root note and see which black keys fall into the scale. The magic of the CoF is that as you go around the circle, you add a sharp to the previous scale's sharps (or a flat to the previous scale's flats if going left). It's like a pattern within a pattern. As the video noted, it gets goofy when you get to the bottom but that's because you run out of black keys and would be forced to start referring to white keys/whole notes as sharps (or flats), so you basically switch them as you come back up.

    • @WoodrowCall
      @WoodrowCall 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@PianoteOfficial Everybody learns things differently and one of the magical things about the CoF is that it explains music theory from many different angles. But, to say that you use the CoF to build major scales is the opposite of how I think about this thing. To me, the major scales are what builds the CoF, not the other way around. I can see how one would use the CoF to find a particular major scale for a particular purpose (such as transposing keys, songwriting), but not to build one. Am I missing something?

  • @jimmyponds1098
    @jimmyponds1098 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I have watched videos on using the Circle of Fifths; one teacher uses/calls it as the Circle of Fourths. I really enjoy Lisa's presentations--she makes me feel like "I can do this." From reading some of the comments, I think many "well-noted/well-toned/well-tuned" musicians use the circle information without realizing the process. Seemingly they learned "something," and that something is often found within the circle of fifths and as one stated below, but "not associating it with the circle." I am certainly not an advanced musician (see Lisa's video on "what level player are you?"). I have been taught to read the notes; the chord method is interesting, and I guess I use or am trying to learn to use/understand a bit of each? For instance, I read the notes in a G7 chord, without realizing its place/number/position in the C Major scale, etc. THAT'S when I realize that I really need to learn the scales/chords to become a more proficient pianist (IF I live long enough!! ha ha) Like Cousin Minnie Pearl might say, "I'm done playing now."

    • @PianoteOfficial
      @PianoteOfficial  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for sharing this! I'm so glad that you are able to use the info I share with every lesson! You are doing great things and I know that you will be able to become a more proficient Piano player in no time! :)

  • @MarqueeMarkVI
    @MarqueeMarkVI 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I mentally apply it at any blues jam session. Someone calls a number and you can quickly think what the 4 and 5 chords are when someone calls the key the tune is in. Ie they are on each side...F / C / G.

  • @gabri3ltz
    @gabri3ltz 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank You! I use it to find the key signature. :)

  • @melissarainchild
    @melissarainchild ปีที่แล้ว

    Super usefull!

  • @marounhannoush
    @marounhannoush 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I enjoy taking songs played in major keys and turning them around to be played in minor. The circle of fifths takes away the guess work.

  • @muhammadumer8197
    @muhammadumer8197 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wonderful thanks

  • @richard180961
    @richard180961 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    By moving Left, I would imagine that you mean, Anti/Counter clockwise around the circle. Therefore " As I see it" If one is moving counter clockwise around the circle, but still going Up the keyboard, then yes, that would be moving in 4th's. However, if one moves counter clockwise and goes Down the keyboard, that would still be moving in 5th's. It is intuitive for me to think of moving Clockwise around the circle, as going Up the keyboard, & moving counter clockwise around the circle as going down the keyboard. Therefore going clockwise & up/ascending, would result in 5th's whereas, going clockwise & Down/descending, would result in 4th's. This is my understanding. Is it correct? Thanks' Just trying to get my head around this..🤔

  • @chuap3612
    @chuap3612 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I watched a long video you posted just before this one. Where is it now?

    • @PianoteOfficial
      @PianoteOfficial  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      If you watched the video on TH-cam, it should still be in our collection of videos! :)

  • @JS45678
    @JS45678 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    For 12 Major Keys:
    I just place C atop and, using my handy 12 Key Musical Alphabet, I count 7 semitones to the right to construct all 12 Major Keys.
    >>
    For Relative Minors:
    I just count 3 semitones to the left of each Major Key to derive its relative minor key.
    This method alleviates me from having to understand perfect 4ths, 5ths, etc.
    As far as the Circle of Fifths, I think it’s a nice tool once it’s well understood for many people.
    For me, personally, I think it’s useless only bc I prefer deriving everything without acronyms and shortcuts. 📝🤓

  • @lawrencetaylor4101
    @lawrencetaylor4101 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very good explanation, and I'm a newbie. But I think I've made good progress for less than a month. I can play every scale, but I need to change my shirt after the flats and their relative minors. But I am confused with the A flat Major scale and it's relative minor C minor scale. Maybe I'm making a mistake but one note doesn't make sense. Am I making a mistake?
    BTW I live in a French speaking area, and I tried to talk with someone about music, and I knew nothing about communicating with them, so I bought a bilingual kids piano book since I see it will be helpful to learn the musical language in French. Sacré bleu.

  • @jeanaffleck848
    @jeanaffleck848 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I felt the wind as this went over my head🙄

  • @Astronomater
    @Astronomater 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    It is an extremely powerful way to organize what generally works together

  • @MeriJaanLifeLine
    @MeriJaanLifeLine 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Woww... I love it...

  • @drummerAVA
    @drummerAVA 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I am a new player and I’m working on becoming more comfortable improvising and moving around the piano… I’m finding that fifths are so easy and sound amazing, using fifths as my left hand chords… but it almost feels like cheating lol. 😬

  • @Pratyaksh...
    @Pratyaksh... 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Totally useful! I can use circle of fifths as a spare wheel for my car🚙🚗🚗🤣

  • @constancegoodyear4472
    @constancegoodyear4472 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You outline the Circle of Fifths but did not explain how it is used by musicians so I have no notion of whether it is useless or not. Do musicians refer to it? If so, what do they use it for? You are talking to learners here , not to experienced musicians. So my question to you would be - is there a good reason for me to learn the Circle of fifths?

    • @PianoteOfficial
      @PianoteOfficial  4 ปีที่แล้ว

      There is a lot of preference and opinion surrounding the circle of 5ths, some love, some don't have a need for it! But it is very useful knowledge to know if you are wanting to understand how to create harmonies and use Key signatures when you are playing! :) It all depends on the person's musical intentions! :)

  • @KayZee1957
    @KayZee1957 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love hearing the canadian accent come out in proh-cess. As usual I find my truth in the middle path. The CoF is neither useless nor essential. I find an analog in the color wheel. Many if not most artists don't use one but at some point one was used to teach color relationships and some artists will use one to develop color pallets for their work.

  • @iamleprochain
    @iamleprochain 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Found it useful but a bit confusing, can we get another continuance video on this ?

    • @PianoteOfficial
      @PianoteOfficial  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The circle has so many cool parts to it! I will definitely have to make some more videos in the future! :)

    • @iamleprochain
      @iamleprochain 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Pianote thank you 😊

  • @DEVILRIDERSORG
    @DEVILRIDERSORG 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I started a few months ago and doing hand independency exercises but still no big progress, i can now only complete exercise cant play arpeggio! Help

  • @MrTaiese
    @MrTaiese 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This is so funny, ive never learnt about circle of 5ths. But i knew my music theory about intervals/cadences etc never knew the purpose of it, I practically learnt my scales, arpeggios, double thirds etc in all major keys and minor keys(melodic and harmonic)

  • @dewiyuliani3024
    @dewiyuliani3024 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Autumn Leaves, please

    • @PianoteOfficial
      @PianoteOfficial  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Check out this video! :) th-cam.com/video/h3AUiUmP0yo/w-d-xo.html

    • @dewiyuliani3024
      @dewiyuliani3024 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@PianoteOfficial this is a private video 😔

    • @nahblue
      @nahblue 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Nice idea :) There are many more advanced jazz tutorials on autumn leaves though.
      This one is starts very simple and it sounds good th-cam.com/video/nol5v6hcrLM/w-d-xo.html

    • @dewiyuliani3024
      @dewiyuliani3024 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@nahblue the way he explained in the video was too fast. But I have saved it, for later study. Thanks for the info!

  • @jonathanysm82
    @jonathanysm82 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    What a revelation in simplifying the circle of 5th. Also, just realised the circle of 5th also reveals the family chords of each key. So if C, the 4th key is F, 5th key is G and the 6th minor key is Am, so on and so forth. Wow..

  • @LuukSwinkels
    @LuukSwinkels 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    There are a lot of hidden secrets within the circle of fifths. It is so useful in so many ways

  • @macca_9680
    @macca_9680 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ive always wondered what makes a composer pick a particular key... why not just compose in C. where there are no sharps or flats?

    • @Amatteus
      @Amatteus 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Beacuse they sound similar but a little different..

  • @strategicpeoples2973
    @strategicpeoples2973 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    very useful

  • @Kona5.0
    @Kona5.0 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Still confusing to me. I ended up learning it just by what goes together melodically and didn’t even know it. Maybe now I will look into it and see just how it ties into what I already know.

    • @nahblue
      @nahblue 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      What's useful to learn is, what the next fifth is from any note. And you probably know this, because the fifth is one of the notes in the chord, the last note in the major triad, and so on. And the reverse of that is always the fourth. C + fifth => G; G + fourth => C And then by learning all the major triads and which fifth goes together with each root, we know most of the circle by heart already :)

  • @sheldonsinclair5254
    @sheldonsinclair5254 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nevermind, saw some videos wit h you singing...Great Voice :-)

  • @adorationxofficial
    @adorationxofficial 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Super awesome

  • @jaisharma6972
    @jaisharma6972 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hey Pianote, Which Piano is that? I really love it's sound. :)

    • @PianoteOfficial
      @PianoteOfficial  4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The Piano I use is called the Roland V-1 Electric Grand Piano. :)