Thanks for a great real review and not just an unboxing. Happy to see how you enjoy the Jannu and winter camping. I have a Jannu myself and it’s a great tent for tough conditions. You have probably figured it out already but don’t worry about anything snapping when clipping on the poles. Some of them are very tight and I had the same feeling first time pitching the tent myself 😂 Being a Norwegian it’s very strange to see someone going that far in the snow not skiing 😱
I love it! And yes, I have been concerned about something snapping due to the tightness of the poles. Thanks for the reassurance. Multiple knee surgeries are keeping me from skiing anymore, so I just plod along on my snowshoes!
You aren't kidding! There is something theraputic about that though. Everything just kind of focuses down, and you can concentrate on one thing at a time. Thanks for commenting and good luck on your journeys.
Great review out in real weather. I'm researching which tent to get and the Jannu is on my list hence finding your channel. I've looked at Terra-nova, MSR, and others but I really think it has to be a Hilleberg for the strength, quality and longevity. Thanks again for sharing. All the best. Clive.
Thanks Clive! I'm always leary of reviews when the reviewers gear looks new! Gotta actually use this stuff. Good luck with your new tent no matter which way you go.
Hey good to see you putting the tent through its paces. I also have had a Jannu for about 3 years. It’s quirky and set up takes some practice. I always tie my guy lines up before taking the tent out. Stops them getting tangled (been there too many times!). Also pitch vestibule into wind and that stops the vent cover from flapping over the top of the tent when pitching it. Plus Hilleberg recommend this orientation for maximum structural stability. You should check out Tom Heaney Adventure on you tube he has a great Jannu video on winter conditions uploaded. Thanks for sharing your thoughts that location looked amazing to camp at 👍
Great review, awesome tent. Like already mentioned, it's advisable to put the vestibule in the wind direction for maximum structural integrity. For my (1 person 4-season) Soulo, which has 12 guy lines, I've attached small sturdy elastic rubber bands to tie up the guy lines when not in use. In frost, elastic rubber might snap so perhaps elastic paracord would be a better option in winter time. As long as the 'solution' is mitten-proof of course. ;)
Tip from another Hilleberger: tie an 8cm cord, with a knot on the end, to every zipper. Sounds excessive at home, but it's heaven when you need yo keep your mittens on. ;)
@@creationimagesphotography impressed with 5hr walk. Woud it be possible getting some kind of bigger skis instead of snow shoes. If you would have hiking warehouse in shed could you find something more suitable for moving around? I think it would be less struggle.
You might consider getting the 10.25mm poles. It should help with your worries about any lack of strength in the 9mm poles. I have the Allak 2 and replaced the 9mm poles with the 10.25mm. It made a world of difference in terms of tent strength and stability, as well as peace of mind
Use mini caribiners to connect the guylines to the tent fixing points, takes a fraction of a second to clip and unclip, much tidier setting up and packing away. Its a no brainer. I have a Jannu
Your review has put me off the Jannu due to not much usable porch space , low ceiling , difficult setup. The Tarra I had, in contrast was easy to setup, tons of space, the only downside was weight. Would generally take the nammatj though as the Tarra overkill for solo use.
Good question! Didn't bring one for this trip. My next outing will be digging a snowcave, so of course the shovel will make the whole trip. It will be a few weeks before that video is released, but I hope you check it out.
I guess you worked out now that the tent is designed to be guyed out before you clip the tent to the poles? You would have an easier time if you peg the tent down first then poles in, then guy it out then clip tent to poles, that's how its designed. all the best!
You must take in the consideration of the thickness of your sleeping matt, plus the puffyness of your sleeping bag, this combined will more than likely lead to either your head touching one end , your feet touching one end, or both. This would lead to condensation from the inner tent walls getting onto your sleeping bag. Best advice is to do a test run with your sleeping matt, and sleeping bag. Good luck. And please, tell us all about what you find, and what you eventually decided to buy... This would help anny new campers in their quest for good information.
great video. now I choose a tent for myself, strong and free-standing. I think between jannu and allak. have you tried allak? I like the presence of 2 vestibules, but I don't understand yet how much worse it holds the wind than jannu.
Hi hope I can help with your dilemma. The Jannu has a very aero profile if the vestibule is faced into the wind. The pole over the entrance crosses the other two poles near the front of the tent so it makes the tent very strong if this part of the tent is facing into the wind and guy lines are looped around two poles at the crossing points. The Allak is taller and not very aero; also its wide doors are great for views but not so strong. The Allak2 is probably a more comfortable tent to live in but not as good in a storm! If you like the Allak design but want more strength the Black Label Staika is similar but has narrower doors and would be better in a storm than Allak. But it weighs 4kg!
I love my Jannu! Definitely dig out a pit in your vestibule. Deep enough to dangle your feet in if sitting in the inside of your tent. Easy to get boots on and off, store your backpack and take a leak in the middle of the night.
Too much to unpack in his video but let’s focus on the anchors for now. The way you’ve demonstrated it will pull out the peg if you’re unlucky. You can use the peg or a shovel to dig the trench and then also one for the guyline as it should have a straight path to the tent. Right now it would be pulled upwards first. Best instructions on this can be found if you search how to build a dead man anchor for mountaineering purposes. Of course if there’s not a lot of wind and the weather conditions allow the snow to solidify - even a poor anchor will be strong enough. Oh and these don’t look like Hilleberg pegs, more like MSR. Either one is fine but hope you didn’t pay the premium 😉 Cheers
Thanks for the tips! They are MSR anchors, and I understand what you mean about having time for the snow to solidify. Since I've made thhis video, I've had anchors melt out when the sun comes out, and that is no good. I'll have to do some research on the dead man anchor. I appreciate it!
4 season tents need to be low like that though or else they'll catch even more wind and distort and risk breaking poles even more. When you want to camp on the mountains, that's the compromise you need to make. I'm not into such camping. That to me, is way too hardcore. I can't imagine getting a decent nights sleep with the wind hitting a tent all night like that. I would hike up if I were into going up there in winter during the day and pitch below the tree line with a 3 season. That looks like a great 4 season tent. I don't think your shoes are large enough for you.
You are 100% right! As a landscape photographer, I do like getting right up to where I want to shoot sunrise and sunset when I can. It's good to know that I'll be safe in this tent. I might look into wearing larger snowshoes next time. Thanks for commenting!
Another great video!!! You almost make me want to get one of those tents and go hardcore winter camping... Then I remember that I am a wimp and I like my warm bed. But keep it up!!
Some lovely shots thank you. I’d have been exhausted hiking five hours in that snow! A few extra points maybe if you don’t mind my making some suggestions: it looked risky erecting the whole tent in gusty winds. Though you had a line to the rucksack I have heard of someone losing their tent when the rucksack strap broke off under the strain - the sleeve/clip system enables you to begin guying the tent while it is low to the ground, that’s the big advantage of this system. Hilleberg recommend pitching the porch into the wind if it’s strong. They also have an excellent video on pitching in strong wind. th-cam.com/video/3eFAyKMz314/w-d-xo.html To prevent guyline entanglement tie each line neatly at home in readiness to be released at the camping spot when you’re ready to guy it out; the porch area has six zippers so you can open the top part of the door for a view or ventilation while keeping it secure both sides low down 😃 (but if really gusty will need to secure all zippers with the red locking tabs at ground level); the roof vent if opened prevents condensation! Other pro of Hilleberg tents is that a second set of poles can be added for maximum strength - the pole sleeves can accommodate them, then you attach clips alternating between the two poles. Even single poled the poles are more likely to bend than snap. I get your point about the aero porch not having a lot of height - that’s the nature of this alpine shelter. Hilleberg’s tunnel tents (and GT tunnel tents) have bigger porches and more interior space without extra weight if that’s a priority over stability. 🙏
Thank you so much for the suggestions! I'm sure you could tell that I am "relatively" new at winter excursions. I wasn't aware that the system allows for two sets of poles. My experience is under high winds they have gotten slightly bent, but not broken - like you said. Something that didn't make the video was when I had to support one corner of the tent with my hands during some significant gusts. In the morning I discovered one corner anchor had pulled out. That was an area of thin snow, so it made sense. I'll have to try organizing and tying up the guylines at home. That makes total sense!
@@creationimagesphotography this video of a Jannu is instructive in what can go wrong if front zippers left unsecured in very strong wind… th-cam.com/video/w9aZwZRqtnw/w-d-xo.html
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Thanks for a great real review and not just an unboxing. Happy to see how you enjoy the Jannu and winter camping. I have a Jannu myself and it’s a great tent for tough conditions. You have probably figured it out already but don’t worry about anything snapping when clipping on the poles. Some of them are very tight and I had the same feeling first time pitching the tent myself 😂 Being a Norwegian it’s very strange to see someone going that far in the snow not skiing 😱
I love it! And yes, I have been concerned about something snapping due to the tightness of the poles. Thanks for the reassurance. Multiple knee surgeries are keeping me from skiing anymore, so I just plod along on my snowshoes!
Nice video, friend. The wind looked a bit exciting! It's not easy filming and also setting up your tent in cold winter and windy conditions.
You aren't kidding! There is something theraputic about that though. Everything just kind of focuses down, and you can concentrate on one thing at a time. Thanks for commenting and good luck on your journeys.
Great review out in real weather. I'm researching which tent to get and the Jannu is on my list hence finding your channel. I've looked at Terra-nova, MSR, and others but I really think it has to be a Hilleberg for the strength, quality and longevity. Thanks again for sharing. All the best. Clive.
Thanks Clive! I'm always leary of reviews when the reviewers gear looks new! Gotta actually use this stuff. Good luck with your new tent no matter which way you go.
Hey good to see you putting the tent through its paces. I also have had a Jannu for about 3 years. It’s quirky and set up takes some practice. I always tie my guy lines up before taking the tent out. Stops them getting tangled (been there too many times!). Also pitch vestibule into wind and that stops the vent cover from flapping over the top of the tent when pitching it. Plus Hilleberg recommend this orientation for maximum structural stability. You should check out Tom Heaney Adventure on you tube he has a great Jannu video on winter conditions uploaded. Thanks for sharing your thoughts that location looked amazing to camp at 👍
Thanks for the ideas. I gotta tie up those cords before heading out on my next trip.
Great review, awesome tent.
Like already mentioned, it's advisable to put the vestibule in the wind direction for maximum structural integrity.
For my (1 person 4-season) Soulo, which has 12 guy lines, I've attached small sturdy elastic rubber bands to tie up the guy lines when not in use.
In frost, elastic rubber might snap so perhaps elastic paracord would be a better option in winter time.
As long as the 'solution' is mitten-proof of course. ;)
I'll have to try that. Thanks for the tips!
Tip from another Hilleberger: tie an 8cm cord, with a knot on the end, to every zipper. Sounds excessive at home, but it's heaven when you need yo keep your mittens on. ;)
Actually, that is genius! Thanks for the tip!
Really good vide. Thanks for sharing. I used few Hilleberg tents too.
Thank you! The Jannu is my first, but so far I am very impressed. Hope to take it out again soon!
@@creationimagesphotography impressed with 5hr walk. Woud it be possible getting some kind of bigger skis instead of snow shoes. If you would have hiking warehouse in shed could you find something more suitable for moving around? I think it would be less struggle.
Love the meal choice ha.
Thanks!
You might consider getting the 10.25mm poles. It should help with your worries about any lack of strength in the 9mm poles. I have the Allak 2 and replaced the 9mm poles with the 10.25mm. It made a world of difference in terms of tent strength and stability, as well as peace of mind
Great suggestion! Thanks!
Use mini caribiners to connect the guylines to the tent fixing points, takes a fraction of a second to clip and unclip, much tidier setting up and packing away. Its a no brainer. I have a Jannu
Thanks for the tip. I'll give it a shot.
Your review has put me off the Jannu due to not much usable porch space , low ceiling , difficult setup. The Tarra I had, in contrast was easy to setup, tons of space, the only downside was weight. Would generally take the nammatj though as the Tarra overkill for solo use.
It is definitely tight, especially for two people.
Like your review, it was very thorough. Where was your snow shovel?
Good question! Didn't bring one for this trip. My next outing will be digging a snowcave, so of course the shovel will make the whole trip. It will be a few weeks before that video is released, but I hope you check it out.
Norwegian Xplorer has some good Videos about winter camping
I guess you worked out now that the tent is designed to be guyed out before you clip the tent to the poles? You would have an easier time if you peg the tent down first then poles in, then guy it out then clip tent to poles, that's how its designed. all the best!
Thanks for the heads up! I hadn't actually figured that out, so I will have to try it on my next outing.
Dig out the vestibule in snow to get more room. Is the internal length enough for a 6’3” tall guy?
I am 6'0" and have room. I think you'd be OK.
You must take in the consideration of the thickness of your sleeping matt, plus the puffyness of your sleeping bag, this combined will more than likely lead to either your head touching one end , your feet touching one end, or both. This would lead to condensation from the inner tent walls getting onto your sleeping bag. Best advice is to do a test run with your sleeping matt, and sleeping bag. Good luck. And please, tell us all about what you find, and what you eventually decided to buy... This would help anny new campers in their quest for good information.
great video. now I choose a tent for myself, strong and free-standing. I think between jannu and allak. have you tried allak? I like the presence of 2 vestibules, but I don't understand yet how much worse it holds the wind than jannu.
Good luck with your choice!
Hi hope I can help with your dilemma. The Jannu has a very aero profile if the vestibule is faced into the wind. The pole over the entrance crosses the other two poles near the front of the tent so it makes the tent very strong if this part of the tent is facing into the wind and guy lines are looped around two poles at the crossing points. The Allak is taller and not very aero; also its wide doors are great for views but not so strong. The Allak2 is probably a more comfortable tent to live in but not as good in a storm! If you like the Allak design but want more strength the Black Label Staika is similar but has narrower doors and would be better in a storm than Allak. But it weighs 4kg!
I love my Jannu! Definitely dig out a pit in your vestibule. Deep enough to dangle your feet in if sitting in the inside of your tent. Easy to get boots on and off, store your backpack and take a leak in the middle of the night.
Too much to unpack in his video but let’s focus on the anchors for now. The way you’ve demonstrated it will pull out the peg if you’re unlucky. You can use the peg or a shovel to dig the trench and then also one for the guyline as it should have a straight path to the tent. Right now it would be pulled upwards first. Best instructions on this can be found if you search how to build a dead man anchor for mountaineering purposes.
Of course if there’s not a lot of wind and the weather conditions allow the snow to solidify - even a poor anchor will be strong enough.
Oh and these don’t look like Hilleberg pegs, more like MSR. Either one is fine but hope you didn’t pay the premium 😉
Cheers
Thanks for the tips! They are MSR anchors, and I understand what you mean about having time for the snow to solidify. Since I've made thhis video, I've had anchors melt out when the sun comes out, and that is no good. I'll have to do some research on the dead man anchor. I appreciate it!
4 season tents need to be low like that though or else they'll catch even more wind and distort and risk breaking poles even more. When you want to camp on the mountains, that's the compromise you need to make. I'm not into such camping. That to me, is way too hardcore. I can't imagine getting a decent nights sleep with the wind hitting a tent all night like that. I would hike up if I were into going up there in winter during the day and pitch below the tree line with a 3 season. That looks like a great 4 season tent.
I don't think your shoes are large enough for you.
You are 100% right! As a landscape photographer, I do like getting right up to where I want to shoot sunrise and sunset when I can. It's good to know that I'll be safe in this tent. I might look into wearing larger snowshoes next time. Thanks for commenting!
Another great video!!! You almost make me want to get one of those tents and go hardcore winter camping... Then I remember that I am a wimp and I like my warm bed. But keep it up!!
Nallo 4?
Not yet. You?
Some lovely shots thank you. I’d have been exhausted hiking five hours in that snow! A few extra points maybe if you don’t mind my making some suggestions: it looked risky erecting the whole tent in gusty winds. Though you had a line to the rucksack I have heard of someone losing their tent when the rucksack strap broke off under the strain - the sleeve/clip system enables you to begin guying the tent while it is low to the ground, that’s the big advantage of this system. Hilleberg recommend pitching the porch into the wind if it’s strong. They also have an excellent video on pitching in strong wind. th-cam.com/video/3eFAyKMz314/w-d-xo.html
To prevent guyline entanglement tie each line neatly at home in readiness to be released at the camping spot when you’re ready to guy it out; the porch area has six zippers so you can open the top part of the door for a view or ventilation while keeping it secure both sides low down 😃 (but if really gusty will need to secure all zippers with the red locking tabs at ground level); the roof vent if opened prevents condensation! Other pro of Hilleberg tents is that a second set of poles can be added for maximum strength - the pole sleeves can accommodate them, then you attach clips alternating between the two poles. Even single poled the poles are more likely to bend than snap. I get your point about the aero porch not having a lot of height - that’s the nature of this alpine shelter. Hilleberg’s tunnel tents (and GT tunnel tents) have bigger porches and more interior space without extra weight if that’s a priority over stability. 🙏
Thank you so much for the suggestions! I'm sure you could tell that I am "relatively" new at winter excursions. I wasn't aware that the system allows for two sets of poles. My experience is under high winds they have gotten slightly bent, but not broken - like you said. Something that didn't make the video was when I had to support one corner of the tent with my hands during some significant gusts. In the morning I discovered one corner anchor had pulled out. That was an area of thin snow, so it made sense. I'll have to try organizing and tying up the guylines at home. That makes total sense!
@@creationimagesphotography I’ve been camping only for 2.5 years but learning each time (and from viewing other more experienced people’s points too).
@@creationimagesphotography this video of a Jannu is instructive in what can go wrong if front zippers left unsecured in very strong wind… th-cam.com/video/w9aZwZRqtnw/w-d-xo.html
Jannu...pronounced with a y...so it's said Yannu. 😊
Got it!